I don't remember anyone hated Spidey and Black Cat. I actually really like the pairing even though I prefer MJ. Spidey and Mockingbird or Carlie Cooper are probably more hated.
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
Shantosh Rajendren yeah i honestly would support the idea of him and BC becoming a real thing though if MJ ends up dying from being kidnapped by one of his villains. I like mj, but I honestly love BC more than Mj and find her to be a much better match
@michaelm55426 жыл бұрын
I don't think they liked her in the day, whilst a lot of fans were polarized by her "friends with benefits" relationship with Peter in 2009 - some liked it, some didn't. But both characters are generally well-loved with the right writer, and whilst Mockingbird was tepid (well-written and supported at times, but meh), Cooper was never supported by anyone. Not on any fan site.
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
JAMES WE'RE GOING TO BE KILLED I still do see a high fanbase for the character though, and I find her to be a much better match for her if they gave her more development like they did with Rogue and Gambit as well recently. And if done correctly and written well, I think it would be really good Still hoping she shows up in the MCU once Venom fails and Sony sells the rights back to Marvel, or Sony cancels the black cat movie and let Marvel use her instead. Which is what I find a lot of people on reddit and other talkative websites want, since they work well together
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
JAMES WE'RE GOING TO BE KILLED I still hate the fact that they let Kevin Smith retcon her origin and add her getting raped in college. And everyone was complaining about it, but they didn't even bother to fix it at all. So fucking stupid imo
@michaelm55426 жыл бұрын
@@skylerk2516 I find MJ to be a better match story-wise, the guy obsessed with crime fighting fully takes on the persona of a retired man. But with BC I can see it being the one to take up the mantle of a fully grown adult alongside Peter. If written well, of course (flippin Slott and his crime boss shenanigans). As for Kevin James' writing I honestly didn't see the problem with it - I don't think it fit with the character in the day, being so flirtatious with Spidey not long after she had been raped, but I thought her character was well-written in that particular storyline, logic aside.
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache6 жыл бұрын
Superman and Wonder Woman, where the sex is great but they can't talk about anything besides work.
@azraiel19846 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy with a Mustache same as Superman and Lois Lane?
@victorguerra97786 жыл бұрын
how are you everywhere
@a.g.m90786 жыл бұрын
I find you almost everywhere, good tastes though
@SpiralSine66 жыл бұрын
But hey, at least with Frank Miller behind the wheel they can have thunderous sky sex.
@Rob_Watch6 жыл бұрын
Right probably the first time superman was able to just pound it out!
@manicwebb6 жыл бұрын
Scott Summers & Emma Frost's pairing is made much worse when you remember that Emma was the one who turned Jean & the Phoenix into the Dark Phoenix. He slept with the woman who drove his wife insane and turned her evil.
@Eisenwulf6664 жыл бұрын
But the sex must be REALLY great , no doubt in my mind
@rodrigobueno86523 жыл бұрын
I think the worst is remembering Emma was Scott Analyst and is abused her position and the vulnerable state scott
@reedoka-maclaren23136 жыл бұрын
Harley and Joker are a fucked up toxic relationship But that’s sortof the point
@dubbmoon6 жыл бұрын
Reed Oka-MacLaren that's so true the problem now is that people are too sensitive so they can't go edgey
@rhonab66986 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the point but the problem is so many people (mostly teen girls) look at Joker/Harley and genuinely call it "relationship goals" and romanticise it. I enjoy it as a dynamic that showed multiple facets of the Joker's depravity and made Harley who she is, but there's a reason DC have been distancing themselves from it since the New 52 onwards - people were misinterpreting it as a Bonnie and Clyde "villains in love" story rather than the fact it was supposed to be an abusive and toxic relationship
@reedoka-maclaren23136 жыл бұрын
Rhona Blackwood I hate it when consumers are too dumb to understand something and the product suffers as a result
@Trevr6096 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the ivy relationship seems misguided and people should see an abusive relationship so that when the may find theirselves in one that know when to get out of it
@Ninj-Nugz6 жыл бұрын
Reed Oka-MacLaren Reasons why I didn’t like suicide squad as much as I would’ve. Now everyone who didn’t know Joker and Harley Quinn, now all think that “they’re the perfect couple” Their relationship is supposed to be messed up. Joker just used her to get out of the asylum and also as a human shield. Their relationship is important because it’s what shapes Harley into what she is now.
@smjaiteh6 жыл бұрын
What *NOT* to do when writing a comic book romance: 1. Pick the pair before writing the story 2. Pick nonsense couples for shock value 3. Kill a woman 4. Continue when the relationship is abusive
@M1ckTheMan6 жыл бұрын
I agree with all but number one, as honestly that's how every couple in the history of fiction gets together through the writing process.
@atticusv6686 жыл бұрын
I agree with the first two, but not the third one. Killing a female character in a comic book for shock value? Yeah, that's bad. But killing a female character overall wouldn't be a problem if the comic was about, say, prejudice against women or a war where all of humanity is at stake.
@syahaz70886 жыл бұрын
@@M1ckTheMan agree
@xboxonegrenade18126 жыл бұрын
Unless Your Gwen Stacy
@freshavocado47556 жыл бұрын
BroSpeak he’s saying like just write the characters how u think they would act and I guess make it more organic when u pair them but I mean that’s fucken retarded how the hell are u supppse to start the relationship if u don’t know who gonne be with who😂😂
@DarkwyndPT6 жыл бұрын
Is incredibly cringey as hell having Babs sleeping with her ex's adopted father (Batman) in the Killing Joke animation adaptation (which NEVER occurred in the original comic), but now his adopted little brother too? Come on! And Tim is actually the second youngest after the intro of Damien.
@darkstardarin6 жыл бұрын
He meant in the Arkhamverse, Damian isn't a factor here.
@merchantfan6 жыл бұрын
Tim looked way too old in that game. Also, come on, Stephanie Brown is his classic love interest!
@veen-a20926 жыл бұрын
she sleps with everyone lol
@DaMonkas5566 жыл бұрын
It did happen in the animated series universe in a continuation comic.
@spice13566 жыл бұрын
Bruce isn't Bab's adopted father, she already has a real one and he's alive
@anxiousbookworm17695 жыл бұрын
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch... why? Why? WHY?!
@jimr.50744 жыл бұрын
ΟΝΕ word Incest
@JuliaKeyoto4 жыл бұрын
Jim R. Another: ultimate universe
@gay_ancom_bastard21404 жыл бұрын
Sweet home Alabama
@olumusitafa65034 жыл бұрын
the writers at the time were inspired by anime, especial Irregular Highschool, a good anime to watch btw
@Slapstick_Editz3 жыл бұрын
got a problem
@Adrian216 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wayne and Barbara Gordon......terrible!
@damonika096 жыл бұрын
Adrian21 A couple that never should exist. Ever!
@ellieluna94946 жыл бұрын
So out of character
@Mockingjay17646 жыл бұрын
*Cough* No one liked the beginning of Killing Joke Movie *cough*
@xo0o06 жыл бұрын
Never agreed more!
@sayurigalindo25376 жыл бұрын
Yea it's just terrible I like Bruce with Selina better
@chrisjimenez21926 жыл бұрын
*In an alternate universe, Earth 31, Diana & Clark had a daughter, Lara Kent. She became the new Supergirl & had both all Kryptonian & Amazonian powers* _Just a little random interesting fact I felt like sharing lol_
@deadpoolrockz64106 жыл бұрын
Excluding the Dark Knight Returns Graphic Novel, the other works for that universe suck. All Star Batman and Dark Knight Strike Again and Dark Knight III: Master Race
@nhagan0016 жыл бұрын
going to be a nit picky, but does Diana have any powers that are unique compared to Superman? I wouldn't consider her armor or lasso unique since Superman could just as easily use them as well.
@chrisjimenez21926 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Hagan To my knowledge Superman & Wonder Woman share the following super powers: Strength Stamina Speed Flight Invulnerability Rapid healing factor & ability to jump high However I do think she's either immortal or ages very slowly which I know for a fact Superman has, slow aging I believe Clark is stronger in all those abilities tho (except for maybe the slow aging lol)
@azraiel19846 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Hagan Wonder Woman has a presence that compels all soldiers to bow to her because she is the goddess of War. She actually really hates that
@chrisjimenez21926 жыл бұрын
gsam84 tmcap Lmao 😂 Is that actually true or you just saying that?
@tonywoods69166 жыл бұрын
What? No Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborn?
@thejimg6 жыл бұрын
That only (thankfully) played out in flashbacks...
@TheMajenga6 жыл бұрын
Right? Gwen Stacy and Norman Osbourne is far worse than all the couples in this list. And pretty much the worst comic I ever read.
@YinYang1756 жыл бұрын
That pairing still horrifies me. I mean, Norman’s O face. But why didn’t it make this list?
@TheMajenga6 жыл бұрын
Good question. I agree that most couples of this list are bad and shouldn't exist at all, but Gwen and Norman it's an absolute shit.
@iiirdvii8406 жыл бұрын
It was a one stand.
@2muchwit6 жыл бұрын
Black widow and hulk is just weird.
@darnellharris28866 жыл бұрын
So is scarlet witch n vision ha smh 2 bad bitches wit freaks 😀
@ExplorersJournal5 жыл бұрын
Naah There are many fans of that couple including me they share a dark past
@razorfett1475 жыл бұрын
@@ExplorersJournal umm...how so? She was a trained assassin. He was a scientist that befell an unfortunate accident. They literally share no commonality
@ExplorersJournal5 жыл бұрын
@@razorfett147 well If somebody is bankrupt and someone's Friend dies both are different but they are dark and People who are both suffering somehow gives each other company Speaking of Relationship couples always doesn't have to have everything common perfect example is Batman and Catwoman they are so different yet they love eachother
@MrAmhara5 жыл бұрын
Not Hulk. Bruce.
@levonneevans55576 жыл бұрын
Idk man I feel like miss marvel got it the worst...
@robertfancyman38736 жыл бұрын
Thankfully, people seem to slowly be accepting that Joker and Harley is a terrible relationship. It might be cause of all the Harley x Ivy porn....
@DarkwyndPT6 жыл бұрын
Also, because Harley overcoming a toxic relationship is good storytelling.
@MrDjdecks6 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting relationship to watch but it's not a healthy relationship.
@da1king0fwakanda566 жыл бұрын
Yea, it was annoying, everyone was talking about how much he loved her & what not, and they based most of it off of Suicide Squad, which wasn’t really the most accurate representation of their relationship.
@denniscleary75806 жыл бұрын
What do you mean I think what they have is true love......😁😄😂
@nhagan0016 жыл бұрын
>.> "toxic relationship" going from a guy that is abusive... To a woman that can use poison... lesbian toxicity?
@MikeJones-eh4zv6 жыл бұрын
Spidey and Black Cat was a great couple. Those two have SOOOOO many unresolved issues
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
Mike Thomas-Jones yeah I love her more than mj tbh. No hate, but I found her to have more chemistry tbh
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
Kind Karma yeah I remember that happened very recently actually. Which issue was that? I might want to read it lol. So is she like a hero now and not a criminal anymore? If so, then that'd be some good character development for her
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
Kind Karma ok will do. Still ship the hell outta the two
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
Kind Karma I mean kinda, but I don't judge so don't worry. I'd rather have Rogue be married to Gambit currently (which thankfully is the case), but IDK who x23 is usually paired with. Either way, I find BC a better love interest for Peter if they give her more development like they did here. MJ is fine and all, but she's kinda plain tbh. And don't get me started on how many people argue at me when I say this lol
@edsonsengo26846 жыл бұрын
@Kind Karma What comic issue is that?
@obioraobi6 жыл бұрын
meanwhile, almost everybody is somebody sloppy seconds
@cristiancarrasco16826 жыл бұрын
Cain Marko isnt Professor X's cousin. He is his step-brother.
@CulturePhilter6 жыл бұрын
Cristian Carrasco - that’s what I thought. Was wondering if maybe it had been retconed at some point.
@DeetsterB6 жыл бұрын
Philip Hawkins so was I.
@DocSwood6 жыл бұрын
Yes and No, in the main continuity yes they're step brothers, but the one the Shulkie stuff happens is another one, where Marko is a mutant and Charles cousin... or something, been ages since I read it so it's a Ben Kenobi "What they said is true... from a certain point of view." ;)
@s.waldron85326 жыл бұрын
Step brother, or half brother? There's a difference
@maxedout1996 жыл бұрын
Its cause this channel doesn't study up
@angrybrony6 жыл бұрын
nightwing and starfire are a way better couple. ui have no clue why DC aren't letting them be together.
@BowlingForGazpacho6 жыл бұрын
angrybrony I've thought about this and while I truly love both women, I think this is why they have moved Dick on from Kory. While they loved each other deeply and were pivotal in one another's growth from youth, at the time of their separation, it felt like there was very little else they could offer each other. Initially it was a relationship of equals that managed to challenge gender roles, fear of commitment, sexual discovery, and self-love, and they truly found themselves. So maybe that was the point, and where it can beautifully end. Not all good things are meant to last and while other relationships and lovers may come into the mix, it's a point of symmetry that Dick ends up with Barbara. She was his first crush (before N52 anyway) and challenges Dick to grow up and become who he was destined, while Starfire allows him to exist in the limbo between adolescence and adulthood. Additionally, Starfire has been on her own and in different team ups in recent years and it seems like they really have grown too far apart to be out back together without some serious changes.
@angrybrony6 жыл бұрын
except before the reboot we see their future daughter so clearly they had somewhere to go in their and the after the reboot they haven't let them be on a team (except for those midocar N52 animated titans movies were they were together that may as while be damien the movie but lets stay on topic), besides we saw babs and dick have a relationship (even a kid) on earth 2 so why can't we see kory and dick have some time to get together. beside babs and dick boring af.
@BowlingForGazpacho6 жыл бұрын
angrybrony I'm not saying we shouldn't ever have Starfire and Dick together, I loved their approx. 20 year run and would love to see more of them in AU's or different mediums, but where their respective stories currently are in continuity and given the fact that it seems they're beyond their first love phase of their lives, realistically it just doesn't seem probable within the mainstream right now. But if the PS4 Arkham VR was a one-shot outside of the games' continuity, maybe they'll be together in the next rumored Arkham game, who knows? Also I personally disagree about Dick and Babs being boring, but I won't argue your right to your opinion.
@moonredfeatures6 жыл бұрын
It all had alot to do with the bat office meddling in the comics. Besides nightwing and starfire married had a son jake Grayson recently in the nightwing new order series. Starfire will aways be nightwing's love interest. It's only different in the comics because nightwing as a solo series with the bat brand and starfire is too much of a cosmic character to fit in batman's world.
@angrybrony6 жыл бұрын
how recent we talkin' here?
@DarkwyndPT6 жыл бұрын
Between Avengers 200 and Civil War II, it looks like some writers at Marvel don't like Carol Danvers much. I just hope Brie Larsen kills it and uplifts the character to the heights she deserves.
@Perfect7en6 жыл бұрын
Well, that happened with Iron Man. Hopefully the same can happen with Carol.
@PunkRJH906 жыл бұрын
Claremont was probably the only one who really cared, without her we wouldn't have the Rogue we think of. And I liked the Brood Saga when she became Binary. Everyone else it seems doesn't know how to write Carol well.
@johnathonhaney82916 жыл бұрын
Marco Rocha One major exception on the writer front: Kurt Busiek. He used his parallel runs on Avengers and Iron Man to redeem Carol of much of the awfulness inflicted on her.
@patoren3gou6536 жыл бұрын
brie Larson is reading the current captian marvel series and is arguably the most mysandric person alive (who isn't Mags Divassio) that's all you need to know
@johnathonhaney82916 жыл бұрын
ToQ 3gou Actually, no I don't. I need to see how everyone else involved handles the material by, you know, WATCHING THE FUCKING MOVIE. Crawl back under your rock, edgelord.
@JustAFox476 жыл бұрын
Wait, Ivy and Harley are dating? Cool! Glad they found happiness together! Also glad Harley managed to leave Joker, too!
@Never_heart6 жыл бұрын
With the way that Barbara and Bruce were made a couple later in their lifes in the way it was presented in Batman Beyond. It was a short fling when they both were single and needed companionship. That being said fuck the way relationship as it was presented in The Killing Joke movie. It was lazy, forced and incredibly awkward.
@amykarr61635 жыл бұрын
no dude. it was equally bad in beyond and killing joke
@atthecore45605 жыл бұрын
Neverheart Super agreed!
@ddy73235 жыл бұрын
@@amykarr6163 that's because of Bruce timm obsession with this pairing.
@TheValeyard926 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man and Carlie Cooper should have been on this list instead of Spider-Man and Black Cat. Whilst it may not work, per se, I can't think of anyone who actually hates the Spidey/Felicia ship.
@trans80106 жыл бұрын
Fans hated it back in the day, and is one of the reasons why their break up happened in Spectacular Spider-Man 100. They are kind to it now, because the next generation of readers have picked up those books with a fresh look and have praised the coupling. It should also be said that fans wanted MJ gone from the books in the 1970's, that coupling those two was ruining the dynamic she had as the independent bird she was in the 1960's, and because Marvel wanted her gone as well there ended that relationship.
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
Trans8010 wait really?
@trans80106 жыл бұрын
Yes. They were against the Wedding of MJ and Peter, and it wasn't until AFTER JMS was on the title and completely rewrote the dynamic of that coupling that fans readily accepted it, which is why OMD made a bigger sting.
@CloakofAuron6 жыл бұрын
For the Spidey and Black Cat pairing....I dunno, I honestly think that the Peter/Spidey and Mary Jane shippers/couplers are too spoiled and catered to. With Spidey and Black Cat, the dynamic is a lot more like Batman and Catwoman than that disastrous and nonsensical Supes and WW pairing. Spidey and Black Cat do have actualy chemistry, chemistry that was never forced, and was given years to develop over the course of the comics. At this point, I'd argue that Spidey and Black Cat is almost as much of a viable pairing as Spidey and Mary Jane. In certain respects, it's even better, because the former pairing actually affords a romantic relationship mixed with being partners in crimefighting. There's a lot of potential there that has been barely tapped due to certain thick-headed fans saying 'NO, PETER'S MEANT TO BE WITH MARY JANE, END OF STORY, THAT'S HOW IT'S GOTTA BE, FUCK YOU FOR THINKING OTHERWISE.' I'd be fine if Marvel writers did a one-off exploring this and culminating in that one-off having Felicia and Peter marrying, but I really think there's something worth going into with this pairing.
@michaelm55426 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, they did a one-off "What if Spider-Man and Black Cat got married, which shows it briefly, nothing major. But yeah, I dislike some fans, especially on Spider-Man Crawlspace, who are so adamant they reject anyone else's opinions, especially when it comes to Black Cat being the love interest, just because she isn't MJ (they like her as a character).
@marialuke21166 жыл бұрын
I mean, there's an alternate universe where their the main pair, granted the relationship in that universe is messy and I think perma-damaged right now? It was the Spiderman Noir universe.
@lol-ur9ek6 жыл бұрын
I think that Spider-Man and black cat is Just to much Like a copy of batman and cat woman
@marialuke21166 жыл бұрын
@@lol-ur9ek Well, if Batman was an awkward smartmouth sure.
@darkreaper92056 жыл бұрын
CloakofAuron catwoman is villainous
@blackphoenix776 жыл бұрын
Hank Pym is mentally ill and was quite literally experiencing a nervous breakdown when he hit the Wasp, something everyone constantly downplays. He has since sought treatment and therapy for his condition, which is, again, always ignored.
@jbcatz56 жыл бұрын
In Secret Empire he chews out the likes of Iron Man for doing things as bad as him, but never gaining the infamy like he got for his domestic abuse.
@abhirupb3166 жыл бұрын
When we read more into it, Hank is more of a tragic character than most others
@l0sts0ul895 жыл бұрын
Yes
@s.p.d.magentaranger18224 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I always get ticked when people forget that.
@kellyb51676 жыл бұрын
Black Panther and Storm. It was rushed to put them together after years of not seeing each other. Then they changed the origins to make Black Panther save Storm, instead of the other way around. You have to do better than the fact they are both Black.
@terra13196 жыл бұрын
Kelly Boyce that’s my only problem with their relationship was the needless change in the origin of Storm & Black Panther
@markdasaro90456 жыл бұрын
I prefer Storm with Wolverine
@allysonchen42865 жыл бұрын
@@markdasaro9045 me too
@cmorris94945 жыл бұрын
I liked forge with storm
@MrAmhara5 жыл бұрын
Your goofy. Black Panther and Storm was a great couple.
@scotteggleston71346 жыл бұрын
Oh give me a goddamn break. Scott Lang only usurped Hank Pym as the more popular Ant-man because they went with him for the goddamn movie. Don't get me wrong, I like them both. But when i think Ant-man, it will ALWAYS be Hank Pym.
@UncleHyena6 жыл бұрын
same here m8!!
@prehensilelung17516 жыл бұрын
To me Hank Pym will always be the best Ant-man. The rest are just poor substitutes.
@aurasosa73686 жыл бұрын
Yasssss
@NAJ_P_Jackson6 жыл бұрын
@@prehensilelung1751 Didn't he abuse his wife tho.
@l0sts0ul895 жыл бұрын
@@NAJ_P_Jackson He was have a mental breakdown
@fireteardrops6 жыл бұрын
I always liked the Superman and Wonder Woman's relationship. I hate that it wasn't so well-received.
@Bilal-lp1zb6 жыл бұрын
I HATED Superman and Wonderwoman it just didn't work but funny enough I like Batman and Wonderwoman
@dubbmoon6 жыл бұрын
Bilal but they never dated
@rascoehunter36086 жыл бұрын
It seems like DC forgot about it. They were together for the first few volumes but then dropped by the end.
@Quyzbuk866 жыл бұрын
Bilal Guessing you're a fan of how the Justice League & Unlimited cartoons portrayed their chemistry. I enjoyed that too.
@ferd6176 жыл бұрын
Batman - Catwoman has had its moments, too. I mean, the record-scratch scene when Alfred tells all the Robins, alone... even Ace the Batdog looked shocked!
@bluecanine33746 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Justice League cartoon had them share some cute moments, but I wouldn't like it in the comics too well. Their comic book counterparts, new 52 and rebirth both, don't seem lile they would mesh well on paper
@carrastealth6 жыл бұрын
People didn't like Joker/Harley because they thought it was a relationship to aspire to. Well most of them that weren't going for memes. I think they understood full well what it entailed. It was the dynamic and their chemistry of both the characters more so than "oh I want THAT in a relationship." If you think the relationship is popular because people think it's "endearing" then you haven't been paying attention.
@damonika096 жыл бұрын
Ugh that Batman Beyond comic was just straight WRONG! It made all the characters out of character! 😪
@patoren3gou6536 жыл бұрын
thank god Kyle Higgins is in a much better place with the MMPR comic
@lolosmith83406 жыл бұрын
Beyond 2.0 is not a canon comic. It's a DCAU tie-in comic. Kyle even said it just another season of DCAU's Beyond, but in comic form. When DC Comics made Terry and Beyond canon, it did not include Beyond 2.0. So, there is Beyond 1.0 DCAU (WB produced), Beyond 2.0 DCAU comic tie-in (WB produced), and the Beyond (DC Comics produced). And when DC Comics made Beyond canon, they took out the Babs and Bruce romantic/sexual angle. It did not happen, and DC Comics does not recognize them ever being together.
@damonika096 жыл бұрын
Lolo Smith I know it’s non canon. I watched Batman Beyond as a kid. Still doesn’t change my mind about this coupling.
@lolosmith83406 жыл бұрын
1. I was not trying to change your or anyone else's mind. A fact is still a fact whether one acknowledges it or not. I don't care if I change people's minds. I solely present facts, and what people do with them is up to them. 2. I never disagreed with your opinion to begin with, so I don't understand your comment. And nor I did not express my opinion of Beyond or Bruce and Barbara. But, okay!
@MrGylanThomas6 жыл бұрын
"Nadia Pym is the more reputable hero to come from that family"? She's only just arrived :P
@d-brothers31126 жыл бұрын
Superman and Wonder Woman? Dc really based their stories on fan art? "Well, they both wear red and blue, so obviously they're perfect for each other."
@neilcognito6 жыл бұрын
D-Brothers Entertainment then again, Superman and Louis are so perfect, I want to take a perfect rose, fill a perfect bucket with perfect shapes stones, and hang it around their perfect necks. Am I the only one who finds their relationship, so 1 and done and boring? Then again, hate superhero anything, so I should shut my hypocritical crap. Batman and Wonder woman is probably the most dynamic relation though.
@ImTheMan0fSteel6 жыл бұрын
D-Brothers Entertainment they are both gods among men and can actual fuck without Superman worrying about killing her so it’s not that far fetched lol.
@albertbecerra6 жыл бұрын
@@neilcognito dude she would snap him in half, stick to selina.
@morganyoung35576 жыл бұрын
D-Brothers Entertainment that and if you have noticed in your comment section immature people who think that both Clark and Diana who have complete control of everyday actions so they don’t destroy everything would hurt anyone they had sex with that is not each other. DC Rebirth has proven them wrong since Clark is married to Lois and they have a son while Diana is in a very committed relationship with Steve right now and they have had sex a bit in the comics, neither Steve or Lois look very hurt to me.
@karenstarr6 жыл бұрын
Frank Miller also put Clark and Diana together.
@diegocondeherreros41526 жыл бұрын
Where is the Norman Osborn and Gwen Stacy affair?
@michaelm55426 жыл бұрын
We don't... we don't talk about that. GWEN WAS HYPNOTIZED! THAT'S IT!
@obi-wan1766 жыл бұрын
That Never happend IT never happend let's forget it did
@marks28076 жыл бұрын
As dysfunctional a couple Joker, and Harley are they are not a couple fans hate.
@lol-ur9ek6 жыл бұрын
Ikr I love Harley and Joker and yes I know how bad he is to har
@7thlittleleopard76 жыл бұрын
As a fan, I hate. Harley deserves much better than that toad.
@helpfulgamer12745 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I ship Deadpool x Harley Quinn
@CommanderM1175 жыл бұрын
yea there not good together however as a team there mostly good and fan are aware of how bad it is but that 1 of the reason they need to stay together it an iconic couple of Crazy and a dangerous one at that that why harley goes to ivy soo often they understand each other and ivy is there for her but she keeps going back. also it going to be a long time before the film show the other side of there relationship with ivy as most film version are bad but harley was not just leto
@TallWartortle5 жыл бұрын
only edge lords who dont actually see the couple and only see posters of them support that couple. if you support harley getting belittled and beaten for no reason at all by all means bruh.
@kisubags4376 жыл бұрын
As bad as the Joker is to Harley they are a crazy popular couple. The title said fans hated....
@FelisDestructicus6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I just blocked this channel for that bit of stupidity.
@dmpbabe6 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@morganyoung35576 жыл бұрын
Kisu Bags I would say 50/50 on how many fans love or hate that couple. I think their relationship is a good way to introduce Harley Quinn, but it should never be a long term thing.
@lol-ur9ek6 жыл бұрын
Yeah No one Hate's that Crazy couple we all Liked it
@lol-ur9ek6 жыл бұрын
@@foul-is-alive73 same
@andreshipp11346 жыл бұрын
I like Superman and Wonder Woman. The stories will be very different from with Lois. WW and Sup will be equals. There is no Lois looking up to Sup or he have to save her. I believe the whole Lois thing is old and dried up now. WW will save Sup as much as he would her. Beside, what would their kids be like?? :)
@Shastasnow5 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I don't mind Superman and Wonder Woman. The look was too convenient though. Lois is so old school though so I don't mind the classic relationship either. I am weird though xD Though I agree with your logic too. Lois is such a weakness to Superman at times as she is human and is always busy with work.
@roserose1093 жыл бұрын
you're unhinged
@owenubelhor66476 жыл бұрын
I like the joker Harley relationship. First because it shows how evil the joker is, and second it makes Harley that much more of a complex character. She starts off as one of those women we all hear about staying with an abusive piece of shit, but then she becomes a stronger person, escapes that monster she's with, finds a new life and a new love outside of it, and then occasionally beats the crap outta the joker.
@TevyaSmolka6 жыл бұрын
Thank god superman and Wonder Woman relationship been retcon out of existence thanks to dc rebirth
@thedoctor35286 жыл бұрын
Tevya Smolka i was confused af when i first saw it
@azraiel19846 жыл бұрын
Tevya Smolka I think they make sense together.
@damonika096 жыл бұрын
gsam84 tmcap I think they’re boring and cliché
@s-boy46136 жыл бұрын
Yeah. now he's back with the most pointless character in existence. Lois Lane :)))
@azraiel19846 жыл бұрын
damonika09 How?
@br.d89566 жыл бұрын
Scott and Emma is not really Scott's bad to begin with. Jesus Christ, X-Men. You almost need a degree to keep up with your bull-ships. Uh, Jean put a whammy on Scott so he ended up with Emma after she "died." She did it to prevent the shit future broken timeline of "Here Comes Tomorrow" from ever taking place, and she did THAT on instruction from the other wielders of the phoenix force in the "white-hot room." If you REALLY wanted to slander Scott properly you should have gone with the whole Madelyne Pryor arc, where he leaves his new wife and baby to run back to Jean. Mastermind made him fall in love with Madelyne in the first place... it's still a shit thing to do. (It was editorial mandate, but still.)
@RockerMicke16 жыл бұрын
and this is why i stop rating current x men comics thanks for killing my hero marvel
@novaphonix82846 жыл бұрын
I loved Superman and Wonder Woman together, it could be written to be a great love story in the comics with right writer. I liked seeing their relationship develop in the animated Justice league movies War and the others. It showed that their relationship could be tender and it gave them both a since of normalcy. I equal love Spiderman and Black Cat relationship, it just needs to be developed and written to be interesting. I hope people open up to Superman having another lasting relationship other than Lois Lane, it's played out. If Fans open up their minds and hearts to the idea , Wonder Woman and Superman can have a strong and well developed relationship, that brings about interesting stories for fans to enjoy. I believe that in the future people will want someone other than Lois Lane.
@hydeseaick25875 жыл бұрын
No. Just showed that Stuperwonder is superficial.
@jonnyBB3B6 жыл бұрын
Dude spidey and black cat wtf?! Don't knock that!!
@brianbrush51076 жыл бұрын
Now they should do a top 10 controversial comic couples fans loved.
@antarahazarika94146 жыл бұрын
I love Superman and Wonder Woman together.
@scottycameron59376 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Superman and Wonder Woman's relationship, I thought Clark and Dianna had more chemistry than a Damsel in distress.
@ChaoticButterfly5 жыл бұрын
@Can't Think Of A Name Actually, she was initially intended to be his _partner, and_ his love interest. Shuster and Siegel were going to have Lois find out that Clark was Superman pretty early on, then help him fight crime, in a sense (but editorial meddling). So, no, that's not really all she ever was. In fact, she has had instances where she has saved herself and others, too.
@azozazoz21316 жыл бұрын
I'm almost feel sorry for Wonder Woman I mean Superman is belonged to Lois Lane and Batman is belonged to Catwoman, there's no damn reason these two should go date with Diana, they're her dearest friend!
@rhonab66986 жыл бұрын
I think it's because Diana has no "iconic" love interest other than Steve Trevor who in multiple continuities was dead at some point, so any time she spends a significant amount of time around a man people (including a lot of DCs writers) assume she must be attracted to them and them to her. It won't ever happen long term because Lois and Selina are the most popular love interests for Clark and Bruce respectively by a mile, but even after the WW movie Steve Trevor doesn't have the same pop culture clout as Lois Lane or Catwoman so they'll continue to do crappy teases with Bruce/Diana and Clark/Diana to cause tension/drama (I mean they did it literally last month in the current Batman run where he's engaged to Catwoman)
@KuzinPennywise7116 жыл бұрын
Azoz Azoz At the time the Batman x Wonder Woman romance was being played with Catwoman and Batman had a very toxic on and off again relationship. WWxBB was just downright better. They've since made the Catwoman relationship better and I'm glad they're getting hitched.
@warailawildrunner53006 жыл бұрын
There was also a potential relationship with aquaman, although that didn't really get anywhere.. it was just hinted as a 'what if' in some of the comics in the 00s
@laughingman44026 жыл бұрын
@The Slow Bro Maybe DC should stop killing Steve Trevor. Batman or Superman relationship will not work because all of them have their own franchise and it is very difficult to maintain cross franchise relationship.
@heavensalarzon70676 жыл бұрын
Sachin T yeah New 52 proved that but then again New 52 are full of crossovers
@davideduardogonzalezbermud38646 жыл бұрын
10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Green Arrow 10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about Thor 10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Deathstroke 10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about The Hulk 10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Scarecrow 10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about Dr. Doom
@victorvondeathstroke6 жыл бұрын
David Eduardo Gonzalez nothing should be forgotten about deathstroke... except for that shit decision for Damian to beat him.
@victorvondeathstroke6 жыл бұрын
David Eduardo Gonzalez and nothing needs to be forgotten about Dr. Doom except for Fan4stic
@davideduardogonzalezbermud38646 жыл бұрын
Victor Von Deathstroke Well, yeah. He is one of if not THE MOST badass and deadly assassin in The DC universe, and probably all of comics as well.
@davideduardogonzalezbermud38646 жыл бұрын
Victor Von Deathstroke And what about the many embarrasing defeats he suffers regulary because of his ego? This guy rules Latveria, has battled both Odin and Galactus, stole The Beyonder's power, depowered Silver Surfer, reprogramed Ultron to serve him, rebuilt The Destroyer armor, used Scarlet Witch's powers to resurrect many dead characters, challenged Mephisto for his mother's soul, stole all the vibranium from Wakanda, obtained TWO infinity gauntlets, battled both Thanos and Onslaught, fought Celestials, and yet he always losses to less powerful opponents simply because his arrogance! Doom is basically a punching bag for the other members of the Marvel Universe, and that's embarrasing enough for Marvel to make us want to forget about that!
@victorvondeathstroke6 жыл бұрын
David Eduardo Gonzalez well doom and deathstroke are villains used to further arcs in other characters. Massively underrated but serve their purposes. There's no better rivalry then deathstroke vs nightwing but yet deathstroke can hold his own against wonder woman. That make no sense but it's what the writers want.
@RocketeerRaccoon6 жыл бұрын
That's bull$hit, I really like Spider-Man and Black Cat as a couple, it's one of my favourite pairings, I've never actually come across any fans that don't like them together. As for Joker and Harley, I couldn't agree more, it's a really toxic ship that.
@skylerk25166 жыл бұрын
RocketeerRaccoon yeah surprisingly a lot of people do like BC with peter like mj. They’re both great characters, and BC if she got more development could make her and Pete a great couple as well
@huginnmuninn21556 жыл бұрын
@asim0092 yeah it always bugs me that people complain it's a toxic relationship - as if Anyone thought otherwise.
@Gagaloopony6 жыл бұрын
exactly. The point is that it's toxic. It's interesting. And just because you depict a toxic relationship in a story (among villains, no less) that doesn't mean it's condoning real people being in abusive relationships. FYI, you're not supposed to want to be like Joker and Harley. They're criminals.
@zipgow6 жыл бұрын
Whether or not you approve of their relationship, fans loved the Joker and Harley Quinn so much that she was introduced to the main stream continuity. (This video wasn't titled creepiest relationships, just "Controversial Comic Book Couples Fans Hated.)
@kylewawrzyniak66806 жыл бұрын
think you mean people loved Harley so much, she was introduced to the series; personally I love her far more without the relationship
@zipgow6 жыл бұрын
But Harley's character is largely centered around her unhealthy obsession with the Joker.
@jp38136 жыл бұрын
And people were interested in her rising above just being Joker's punching bag. Great characters evolve.
@zipgow6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but even as an ex, Joker's relationship with Harley was part of her character. (Ivy can't stand her tendency to dote on him.) Can you think of anyone reading Batman who ever said, "Man, Harley Quinn is great, but why'd they ever think to pair her up with the Joker?" My issue with this entry is the whole "fans hated" part of the title. Harley--however well she works without Joker--was still created to be Joker's girlfriend, and fans didn't hate the relationship. They assumed Joker would treat his girlfriend poorly.
@frankf16164 жыл бұрын
@@jp3813 Too bad all she’s evolved into is a boring dopey airhead. At least her stories were interesting when they featured the Joker.
@sophiawilson86966 жыл бұрын
I didn't hate wonder woman and Superman
@edward_196 жыл бұрын
Same, I thought they were great together
@theonlychickensama83536 жыл бұрын
Same here
@KaneshaAndrews6 жыл бұрын
I feel that same way, I always thought Superman & Wonder Woman were a natural pairing.
@anubhavtigala1616 жыл бұрын
I hated it.
@darkwyve6 жыл бұрын
I really liked it as well. Probably part of what made me appreciate it initially was the 'Kingdom Come' series, where they got together after Lois had passed, and Wonder Woman was there to comfort him. (Of course I loved just about everything about the Waid/Ross Kingdom Come series.)
@TheBohobemeister5 жыл бұрын
All of the ones on this list that I like: Superman x Wonder Woman Spider-Man x Black Cat Ant-Man x Wasp (when it isn't abusive)
@chrisanderson22043 жыл бұрын
Superman and WW just felt forced
@jatarokemuri54433 жыл бұрын
@@chrisanderson2204 yeah, Wonder Woman makes a lot more sense with other people
@Sierlea6 жыл бұрын
Scott/Emma is pretty popular in my experience, unlike most of those. Once together, they had real chemistry and played well together. Also aided by the fact many view the Scott/Jean one as well, just the 'generic default relationship.' Heck, the one time he was married wasn't even with Jean, it was with Madelyne Pryor.
@peanutsinspace6 жыл бұрын
He later married Jean Grey in what was called the 'Wedding of the Century' by Marvel to promote it. They'll be releasing it as a Hard Cover in a month or so.
@kylewawrzyniak66806 жыл бұрын
generic default? There is so much history and chemistry in that relationship in the glory age of X-Men, I personally adore them
@Roomyvegeta15 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't mind Clark and Diana.... Many say it goes against her character but I actually like it I feel like it's a true power couple.
@2004mojo6 жыл бұрын
Superman & Wonder Woman also had a relationship way back when in the pages of 'Kingdom Come'.
@micshork6 жыл бұрын
I LOVED Superman and Wonder Woman being together. It makes a lot of sense. Lois Lane is not a very strong character and doesn't offer much anymore. What they did in the Animated Justice League movie with Clark and Diana was Smart and I think that their pairing is a much better one.
@1billsookie5 жыл бұрын
I guess I’m an odd duck then, because I love Joker/Harley, Superman/WonderWoman, and the Maximoff Twincest.
@magnox5 жыл бұрын
Clark and Diana power couple is just perfect
@lynchiestlynch54423 жыл бұрын
No
@chrisanderson22043 жыл бұрын
Nope,it was just forced and boring
@clayongayle88706 жыл бұрын
Am I in that minority that love seeing Kal and Diana together?
@NAJ_P_Jackson6 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of SM/WW fans. Don't listen to Megan Todd, she doesn't know shit.
@ChaoticButterfly5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much... it's not an insignificant minority, sadly, but you're in it.
@clayongayle88704 жыл бұрын
@@ChaoticButterfly lol
@clayongayle88704 жыл бұрын
@Megan Todd I call him Kal because it's his real name. And I think it's a cool name. Plus you knew immediately who I was speaking about, so I'd say that's a plus. And I ain't say nothing much.
@clayongayle88704 жыл бұрын
Megan Todd fine. Fair point.
@ZephyrosPhoenix5 жыл бұрын
Wonder Woman is the only person capable of carrying Superman's baby. lol
@Bilal-lp1zb6 жыл бұрын
I HATED Superman and Wonderwoman it just didn't work
@urmom-fr8ij6 жыл бұрын
Bilal ikr it was wrong
@laughingjack856 жыл бұрын
@sean bowman yes it did. But hey man this is a fandom dominated by a small group of people who don't want anything to change at all. Thats why they threw a fit when Supes wasn't wearing granny panties. Sad thing is that this obstinate need to not change is slowly killing the comic book industry. No new fans and an ever shrinking population of old fans. If things don't change then there won't be any comic industry at all.
@lol-ur9ek6 жыл бұрын
We all hate it
@NAJ_P_Jackson6 жыл бұрын
@@lol-ur9ek Speak for yourself.
@NAJ_P_Jackson6 жыл бұрын
@@laughingjack85 Can't understand why they can't just appeal to both fans. There are plenty of SM/WW fans I know who like the pairing being done in the comics but DC had to be cunts and kill of Superman and rewrite the romance.
@artezjackson36506 жыл бұрын
Superior Spider-Man officially broke up The Black Cat relationship
@darlenedowie85616 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to tell you but I loved Superman and Wonder Woman being together ...
@shaneagnew37336 жыл бұрын
I don’t think mr J and HQ should be on this list because the relationship is iconic because of its domestic flaws which only benefited the character building of both characters J showed how twisted he is but also how charming in the wrong way he can be and HQ for how she blindly worships and commits to the relationship. two similar characters that helped flesh out each other with chemistry where as superman and Wonder Woman are too similar and couldn’t build any more character in each other because Steve Trevor and Lois lane already fleshed out that aspect of those characters and that’s why they’re popular. I’m not saying jokers treatment of HQ is humane but it is the fucking joker after all, it’s like that dream sequence in suicide squad where HQ visions her happy ever after with joker, if the joker really was like that then he would be as dull and lifeless as joker from telltale batman or when btas got lazy and redesigned the characters and removed the colour from jokers face and left him with just soulless black eyes to express with
@KZ-wl5by6 жыл бұрын
The joker and Harley Quinn couple shouldn't be on this list.
@BlackJackLopez6 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't be in the Universe, but I know that's not what you mean. Kidding aside, I liked Mr. J and Harley in the animated series. That was insane and worked perfectly. I do think pretty moronic some fans think it's "ideal" or romantic, the guy is a freaking monster and she's so stupid about it. Dramatic? Sure. Romantic? That's a bit sick.
@zipgow6 жыл бұрын
I think far less people were pissed off by Wonder Woman and Superman than this video states. Long before the post-Crisis reimagining of Superman, his character was defined by his unwillingness to date a human girl--partially because he didn't want villains to threaten his family, partially because he was too powerful to be compatible with a non-superpowered person. So the question "why wouldn't he marry Wonder Woman?" always floated in discussion amongst fans. That's a huge part of why he starts dating her at the end of Kingdom Come. Fans weren't upset with the concept of those two dating, just the execution in the new 52.
@BlackJackLopez6 жыл бұрын
Well first, it seems the idea that Superman evolved from the "angry alien you can't trust" (bad idea), to something closer to what we know, and that's why his relationship with Lois in New 52 was just platonic, clearly intended to change. Yes, before that it was a dramatic resource that Clark and Lois could get physical, but not conceive a child because of their different physiologies. Some writer would have found a way to remedy that if post-Crisis Continuity had remained. Now, as for Kingdom Come, Lois had died when the Joker attacked the Daily Planet, Lana Lang was pretty much out of the picture, and the story leads to Clark and Diana getting together clearly. There was barely anyone else and he had spent the time mourning Lois before he came back, and indeed before Diana herself brought him back. But that doesn't mean they should end up together, and they won't as long as there is a Lois in the Continuity. Let's get real.
@r3n3gad336 жыл бұрын
Cyclops and Emma Frost is a better pair than Cyclops and Jean Grey! *FIGHT ME*
@austindevine38836 жыл бұрын
totally agree they worked way better together than Scott and Jean ever did
@abhirupb3166 жыл бұрын
And Jean should be with Wolverine
@Izzoroth6 жыл бұрын
The only reason I agree with this is because ya Logan should be with Jean. I loved their pairing in Age of Apocalypse.
@gabrieltorres28826 жыл бұрын
They were more of a complimentary couple than Jean and Scott. They were well balanced. J and S was more of an angelic woman and a sidelined leader. Scott was more interesting when he was with Emma...
@Fenris306 жыл бұрын
Never read The Phoenix Saga, X-Cutioners Song or The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix have you.
@Insaneian6 жыл бұрын
"To my left there's..." Nothing. There's nothing to your left or right, Ewan.
@mjfan87044 жыл бұрын
Gottem!
@crazy_acid775 жыл бұрын
WOAH, WOAH, WOAH. Did you say Black Cat INSPIRED Catwoman? LMAO Black Cat came out 39 years after Catwoman!
@BaconManGaming101 Жыл бұрын
catwoman has somewhat became inspired by black cat in modern comics
@Bman32x6 жыл бұрын
Frank Millar made Superman and Wonder Woman a thing well before new 52 did
@yahyagalal33976 жыл бұрын
Joker Harley>Ivy Harley
@spideyviewer3276 жыл бұрын
Well actually, Spider-Man and Black Cat are one of the biggest shipped couples in Spider-Man history.
@EmmanuelMarin076 жыл бұрын
Did you get these from Comicstorian?
@vincentrodriguez77976 жыл бұрын
Switzer Land no he got this from what cultures website
@CreamFraiche6 жыл бұрын
In Comicstorian's video he said he got the list from WhatCulture
@avap.94296 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who genuinely loves Spidey and Cat as a couple? I prefer pairing him with badasses like himself rather than prissy princesses like MJ and Gwen.
@Harleyxjokerforever6 жыл бұрын
"Controversial comic couples that fans hate" #1 Joker and Harley. ....... 😕
@madmaxx41786 жыл бұрын
O God shut up I don't hate the couple but I hate it's fanbase
@khodorgaz77206 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 just look at your name OMG the ironey
@user-uq6vn6yw9o6 жыл бұрын
HarleyxJoker FOREVER I mean a lot of people hate joker x Harley because it's crazy abusive. I personally don't like it but I don't really care if others like it
@ItsMeYourDad696 жыл бұрын
DUDE ITS THE MOST TOXIC RELATIONSHIP IN THE HISTORY OF FICTION
@kureaz6 жыл бұрын
@@ItsMeYourDad69 ya but fans love them.
@sauldogeman28166 жыл бұрын
Batman and Catwoman were actually a couple before Spiderman and Gwen Stacy.
@dubbmoon6 жыл бұрын
I didn't mind the superman and wonder woman relationship
@gangazumba33336 жыл бұрын
I always liked the idea of Superman and Wonder Woman getting together. Hell, made logical sense; 2 Outcast getting together.
@disdanny5 жыл бұрын
Supes and WW are great together people are just too used of Louis.
@VivaciousVixen5 жыл бұрын
I always thought Barbra and Batman was so weird. I thought they were more like family than anything. It felt wrong and weird
@syrusriddick6 жыл бұрын
Mate, not everything done to a woman in comics is misogynistic. Men and women both have been treated horribly in comics with men actually taking the brunt of the abuse. There’s no need for everything done to women to suddenly be sexist when it’s fine for men to receive the same or worse treatment. Please don’t start going all IGN on us.
@errantknight46356 жыл бұрын
He wasn't even slightly wrong, and the cases he highlighted were egregious.
@amwsmiles6 жыл бұрын
Infuriating, isn't it? No woman should ever find herself in a difficult situation, and if they do it's misogyny and definitely the fault of a man somewhere.
@samsquatch78806 жыл бұрын
I mean, the "sloppy seconds" comment, the patronizing and the *actual spousal abuse* definitely count as sexism. That doesn't mean sexist things don't happen to men in comics. We don't have to "all suffer together or never suffer at all", different things occur to different people. To put it simpler, something mysoginistic can happen to a woman without it devaluing claims that something misandrinistic could theoretically also happen to a man (of a fictional lot, no less).
@patoren3gou6536 жыл бұрын
not that i dont agree with you but slapping women simply for standing up for themselves is sexist and anyone who denies that spends way too much time on 4chan then again berating men for being smarter than you is also sexist (*cough* Nadia Pym *cough*)
@syrusriddick6 жыл бұрын
ToQ 3gou That’s what I was saying. Yep women get slapped for standing up for themselves or berated as do the men in equal turn both sides are treated like crap. I can’t call it sexist if both are treated horribly in the same situations. To be fair women have more of a personality to come out of these situations unscathed or simply insulted whereas say a male minion would be killed without a second thought of the reader.
@fellipebarbosa42106 жыл бұрын
Supes and WW is the only couple that actually makes sense in the whole JL
@thunderlordaeron1345 жыл бұрын
Superman and Wonder Woman were my best couple!! Not Fair for them!! Yeah I know many people hatrd them outside there but many people love them too!!
@aidanhever33696 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree about Spidey and Black Cat as the worst couple. That spot should belong to Spidey with either Carlie Cooper, Michelle Gonzales, Sarah Osborn or Silk.
@AndyHoward6 жыл бұрын
[Dis]honorable Mention: Jean Grey and Mastermind (Dark Phoenix Saga)
@willieoelkers55686 жыл бұрын
The only good thing about that was that Dark Phoenix scrambled that perv's egg good and kept him out of the comics for a while.
@sarafontanini70516 жыл бұрын
except....that was SUPPOSED to be terrible, as it was a supervillain manipulating a hero and brainwashing her to become evil. wheras these pairings were SUPPOSED to be viable romances for one reason or another.
@AndyHoward6 жыл бұрын
True
@CableFF7Forever6 жыл бұрын
God Tim Drake and Babs in Arkham Knight is worse that a lot of people think. Not only is it creepy because in the Animated Series he was like 11 and she was in her mid 20's but her personal DLC Episode "A Matter of Family" created a huge plot hole. In the Arkham Universe Jason "died" 6 months before Asylum and Oracle had been crippled a few years before Asylum and Tim Drake started out as Robin 6 months before Arkham City. But this DLC takes place before Babs got crippled yet Tim Drake is the Robin? So in other words WB made this DLC to try and push/ make sense of an extremely stupid pairing (considering in the comics beforehand Dick and Babs were already a thing)
@kyledmacdonald-21156 жыл бұрын
Whoever thought that Black Widow and Hulk should be TOGETHER in the MCU must DIE!
@BlackJackLopez6 жыл бұрын
That would technically be Eugenics, and it's wrong. Nah, it was just plain stupid, they just needed a love story and Hawkeye was already married. What do you want? It's Disney. Lol.
@mmfg005 жыл бұрын
I agree, she belongs with Bucky Barnes
@danielgengler43426 жыл бұрын
I liked the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship. Started suddenly, and ended for a stupid reason, but there were many good moments. I always loved the Lois/Clark relationship, for the most part, but there was a different dynamic with Diana. I don't mind that they took out in Rebirth, just pissed that they had literally two panels of Diana dealing with, or even talking about the death of New 52 Superman before she got together with Steve.
@Inky9256 жыл бұрын
Minus the domestic abuse am I the only one who loves Joker and Harley together?
@ChaoticButterfly5 жыл бұрын
Nah. I absolutely love them together, too. Have you read Batman: White Knight? I really liked it for the pairing.
@CommanderM1175 жыл бұрын
nope not alone i like them to i understand why there bad but it does not detract from the chaos they bring and madness
@CountArtha4 жыл бұрын
No. But that's the problem.
@TheFrugalVideoGamer5 жыл бұрын
Every time someone tries pointing to Harley/Joker as a great, twisted couple, I immediately point out that Gomez and Morticia Addams is all that while still being healthy.
@jjkm176 жыл бұрын
I honestly hate that they broke up Harley and joker I liked their relationship
@smith97476 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm a fan of Spider-Man and Black Cat and preferred her over Mary Jane. But I see why Spidey and MJ works much better. Same goes for Scott and Emma. But the rest I agree with.
@johnnybeatmaker3306 жыл бұрын
Ppl don't like 🃏 and Harley together?, I mean her character was designed for 🃏
@kaytamurray6 жыл бұрын
Johnny Beatmaker it’s abusive so that’s why lol
@myeeeeeh6 жыл бұрын
Why would people like an abusive relationship?
@JasonRogue6 жыл бұрын
Suicide Squad made me hate the Joker and Harley relationship, DC tried to hard to make it a full fledged relationship when hardcore comic fans know that's not the relationship we know. I will admit there were times Joker did kill for Harley out of jealousy. Take the Joker comic back in 2008 by Brian Azzarello where he skinned a man alive for whoring up Harley. To me he sort of redeemed himself there, but in reality he doesn't really care for Harley as a boyfriend/husband way, he just wants her there to use her as bait/and who he knows will die for him.
@MrGylanThomas6 жыл бұрын
Suggesting fans hated Spidey and Black Cat is a bit of a stretch...
@LigerFan6 жыл бұрын
FWIW IIRC Claremont did his rectification(s?) of the Ms. Marvel storyline from Avengers #200 in Avengers Annual #10 which was also the debut of Rogue and is a really good read.
@shadydetective92854 жыл бұрын
Superman and Wonder Woman are on this list? WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!?!!
@paulsardinasify6 жыл бұрын
Hank Pym Skrull and Tigra have a baby. Hank Pym and Espirita. She feels sorry for him because he is about to commit suicide. She also feels God led her to him. Spider-man and Mocking Bird. I just hate this while Hawkeye is still around. The whole She Hulk and Man-Wolf thing. They got together and seemed like a good couple until she thought she might be under the control of Starfox whose power is making people amorous for each other. She sues Starfox. Sam Wilson (Falcon) and Misty Knight. I like her with Iron Fist.
@maxcardun6 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm Spider-Man's Dilemma with Mary Jane Watson and Gwen Stacy is kinda like Superman's own old Dilemma with Lois Lane and Lana Lang.
@anotherdragneel50776 жыл бұрын
I actually love wonder women and Superman more than Superman and Lois lane... Please don't hate me ...
@rosscraig6286 жыл бұрын
I actually like Black Cat and Spidey. If Spider-Man had a definitive finish, you know that’s not who he’s going to end up with, but having an on again off again relationship is really interesting, especially since they have tonnes of chemistry and it’s someone who can relate to him on the super hero/villain level. Also no couple revivals Green Arrow and Black Canary
@icecreamsandwiches72736 жыл бұрын
I love wonder-women and I love superman but I was not excited about their relationship. It was to easy and predictable. It does seem like it would make the most sense but then that would be boring. Besides wonder women with Steve roger and Superman with Lois lane are iconic.
@avatarthelastairbender37985 жыл бұрын
Wonder woman and Steve Rogers aren't even in the same universe why are they even a pairing but I don't mind it I just don't see DC and marvel linking especially not the characters.
@damonika094 жыл бұрын
Avatar the last Airbender She probably meant Steve Trevor. That’s Diana’s boyfriend.
@ghost2453536 жыл бұрын
I never had a problem with Sumperman and Wonder Woman getting together. It made sense.