10 Moments that caused WWE fans to rage quit!

[@TheFEARSlayer01]

My favorite part of the 2015 rumble was how after Bryan is gone and people's dream was crushed, the titantron said "Shattered Dreams" as Goldust came out, basically WWE mocking everyone. I can't believe they were shocked when it didn't work out.

[@nineteeneightynine432]

I agree but I love goldust titatron video since I first watched wwe in 2000

[@num1Jaysta]

Yes, continue pissing off your own fans. What a great idea. No wonder millions more left since 2015.

[@kaineshigaraki5253]

WWE knew they were THE only show in town so they always messed with the fans. They couldn’t care less. They would intentionally insult the fans. They got off by seeing how hard they could push the fans buttons and still they’d stay. Trips came out on TV and mocked the fans by saying, “by golly, me and my friend Mark, we’re going to stop watching.” [>

[@sheriffdraws8789]

Lmaoooo was that a coincidence or not? Couldn't have been right? Lol

[@TheFEARSlayer01]

@@sheriffdraws8789 never been confirmed if it was or not, but given WWE likes trolling and that they decide entrants beforehand, my guess is they did it on purpose.

[@SpectreRyder]

The Fiend was the best thing to happen to wrestling in years. Him losing to Goldberg was like a slap in the face to the fans.

[@stoppedbythebumper]

YO WHATT. Definitely speaking for ys wyatt fans. Then when he got fired nail in the coffin for me. I tune in now and then and I watch every wwe ppv

[@JunkyardGod]

Totally agree with you, Spectre. Literally only watched for him lol

[@VinnieGer]

It took me a while to finally sit with the fact that The Undertaker’s streak was over. By the time that happened my grief turned to rage realizing Roman added another notch to his loss list.

[@PrinceVegita1]

@Jimmy Whisper I disagree

[@planescaped]

Lesnar beating the streak was completely pointless. He already had the MMA legitimacy and mainstream fame/appeal from that. Just don't make that match. Don't have him job to Cena and HHH upon his return while you're at it. >__> Roman was also completely pointless. As he was already cemented firmly as the Cena/Hulk/HHH chosen one, and equally gained nothing from beating Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Bray Wyatt as either Bray or even the Fiend would've probably been the best to do it. Considering he was the unofficial successor to Taker, though he was never treated as well. Him beating the streak and going on to actually be booked well would have been ideal. But regardless, whoever was going to beat the Undertaker needed to be the next/new Undertaker/Kane/big bad monster of the company. A position neither Lesnar nor Reigns fulfills. The shortsightedness of WWE really is unfathomable...

[@thegreenpianist7683]

@Jimmy Whisper it wouldn't have worked at the time because his fan reception was already very rough, beating the Undertaker would only add fuel to the fire (look no further than 2017) Now, in an alternate universe where WWE didn't goof up Roman's ascension to the top and with good fan reception behind him (maybe as a heel), ending the streak could have done him wonders.

[@VinnieGer]

Jimmy Whisper heel Roman yes, as a face, well that’s just not happening. Brock doesn’t need a push/elevation, he’s Brock Lesnar. That’s his push.

[@thegreenpianist7683]

@Jimmy Whisper it's mind boggling how 2014 Rumble final two, Roman was been cheered against Batista, fast forward exactly one year later, final two of the Rumble 2015 he's being booed like he just killed all their pets, how do you make so many bad decisions in such a short time? If they had just went with Bryan to win Roman would not nearly have as much heat as he did

[@strafe155]

Honestly, the Ratings for WWE have been in decline since the end of the attitude era. Hell, when Smackdown moved to Fox, a ton of people online were asking where Steve Austin and the Rock were, wrestling's been going downhill since the turn of the century.

[@deepvoicedude4749]

The Rock was on the first episode Fox’s Smackdown though. In the first segment.

[@iago6000]

that's true, but that's not on wwe, it's just the world changing... the whole gritness and rudeness of the attitude era could never work nowadays... wwf accomplished to perfectly summarize the feelings and aesthetic of late 90s.

[@mikehunt4986]

@@iago6000 The irony is that the country is much more violent and depraved now than it was in the late 90s. I think that it would totally work if it wasn't for social media. That's where the backlash would happen.

[@DarknessFlameMedia]

@@iago6000 I don't think you actually have a clue what you are talking about. the 90s would easily work today in terms of views. It's the bs people in charge of certain political movements that would have a problem with it. But all you have to do is look at late night host ratings and look at Gutfields ratings and realize the problem. The world isn't changing its what is being forced on people that is what's going on

[@phillipsmith4473]

@@mikehunt4986 On the bright side, the people from the 80's to 2000's had the best media, WWE really seemed to glue you into the TV, now it just feels like a uninteresting side show where you can barely remember the fighter's names, they all look like they belong on a teen gym drama movie instead of an actual wrestling ring.

[@OyKuff]

Roman getting put in every wrestlemania main event for years straight, without him doing anything to earn it, really made me angry. The whole Roman push drove me away in 2017

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Roman ruined what it means to main event wrestlemania it doesn’t mean the same anymore

[@lordpookie]

@@pleaseshutup7053 yes it does

[@green49285]

Same. It was a weird thing they just refused to accept.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

I was already fed with him in 2015 but his WrestleMania matches with undertaker, Lesnar 2 and triple h was so bad😂😂 man. But i loved his first match with brock one of the greatest WrestleMania matches. There build-up was bad but match was good whereas in 2022 they had great buildup and a bad match again

[@celebrity292]

You speak like that was in the past . He's a good wrestler he's not the top guy at all. No character whatsoever

[@Carlitonsp1]

I was kind of "Drift off" guy, but one thing that always bothered me about the Undertaker/Lesnar moment was that it was basically needed for Lesnar to gain back credibility from losing to HHH. It could have just been avoided by having him not lose to HHH.

[@planescaped]

Oh man... I forgot he lost to HHH. Didn't he lose to Cena around then too? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...

[@Carlitonsp1]

@@planescaped Brock's first match back after 8 years away. The start of John Cena's "Worst Year" after losing to the Rock at WM. Cena beats Lesnar.

[@KDOGLP]

Hated the build to Taker vs Lesnar… it was shocking because the booking was appalling

[@22Hammy]

i think wwe just played it safe by choosing lesnar because if theyd chosen a younger guy, wwe knew they wouldnt be able to capitalize on it since they cant make stars anymore, so they didnt want someone to win it who had a high chance of being ruined by the writers' booking and only lesnar is left. I still think it shouldve never been broken though

[@22Hammy]

@IAlwayswin they're making more money than ever and if they weren't playing it safe, why are you seeing Lesnar vs Roman again and again? Because it sells

[@TerryB01]

Completely shitting on Zack Ryder for doing their job for them and getting over all on his own. They should have leaned into it and made a bigger star.

[@carsonmasoncole1840]

I remember that, to me he wasn’t gonna be world champion but he definitely should have been booked better then getting beat up and push off the stage by Kane while best friend cena fought for his honor(I think that’s what happed)

[@darthraider450]

Rusev Day as well

[@Zac_Frost]

Yeah, that was bullshit. Like, for some reason, they still can't understand that it's the FANS who pick who gets over, not the company. It's the same thing with Theory these days. He's apparently John Cena 3.0, or Roman Reigns 2.0. However you want to look at it, it's clear he's the next "The Guy" for them.

[@MohamedAli-xu3uw]

@@carsonmasoncole1840 Cena who then banged his girlfriend Eve.

[@personontheinternet6525]

init man its ridiculous, fans like you ?PUNISHED!!!!!

[@M3ssi117]

I remember stopping watching during the Christian and Randy Orton Heavyweight championship feud. Every week Christian would come out and chant "one more match" which really drove home the realization that I was basically watching the same recycled matches week after week on WWE weekly shows.

[@nineteeneightynine432]

Yeah and I'm a big Christian Cage fan but that was dumb.

[@airfixx_8952]

The storyline was a bit meta, but that was Christian's story arc and it made sense..... Plus; the matches kicked ass!

[@MrMusick84]

I disagree. Kind of. Promo wise I agree. But, the matches they had were fantastic. Especially their match from smackdown.

[@tylergary5953]

I disagree. Imo that’s one of the best feuds in the last 15 years. The segments, chemistry, and matches between the two were great. And after all, they were having a feud that spanned through the summer. There was like 4 matches total. Not that many. Now we see rematches every week. That’s boring. But with Christian, it was just a summer storyline not really endless rematches.

[@toddbarts2120]

That's called a storyline

[@blacksabbath2024]

For me it was 2009 when the pg rating got out of control, Super Cena was in full peak and the horrendous celebrity guest host era. I'm getting PTSD just typing this comment down, you know it's bad when 09 looks like the attitude era in comparison to today

[@jaylong4705]

Those guest hosts were the worst

[@blacksabbath2024]

@@jaylong4705 Absolutely, I hated it so much

[@on-mg8df]

Yep wwe would never recover from the guest hosts era. Unwatchable product with flat crowds and everything looking plastic. Somehow that standard is still way better than today's wwe, sad times.

[@itsjustjoniel]

Oh 2009-2011 wwe was the worst Every single segment felt like a nickelodeon sitcom scene.

[@EpicAndrew97]

@@itsjustjoniel2017-2019

[@cheapR1]

WWEs treatment of WCW and ECW guys and Triple H's reign of terror (which borrowed heavily from that) were off putting, but I just kind of grew out of watching wrestling

[@advocatefish3562]

​@C D Hated RAW after the brand split. No good feuds to speak of. No great moments. Booker and Hurricane were the best things about it. Steiner was a fail, NWO was a fail, Stone Cold on his ATV as sheriff....Oh god.

[@michiel1162]

@@advocatefish3562 i actually liked Stone cold sheriff, but i was very young and new into wrestling. That moment where Brock stole Stone Colds ATV and they were gonna brawl was fking awesome.

[@ImagineWagons99]

I don't necessarily have a singular moment that drove me away from wrestling. I think the writing in the last 6 or 7 years has been so bad, and the constant flip flopping of people getting pushes and then released is probably what did it for me. However, one moment that does come to mind was when Jinder won the title in 2017. I was already losing interest, but would always keep an eye on things. After this, I've only ever checked in around rumble or mania time.

[@H8B7L]

The whole Cena saga is infuriating af. Cena had good matches and great storylines. But it was ruined by "lol Cena wins". Edge, Umaga, Jericho, Nexus etc. great storylines that were ruined by Cena dominating. Now imagine if they booked Cena like The Rock. Strong af, multiple WC, but he was never Champ for a long time, because the Heels cheated and The Rock was the chacer for most of his career. The kids AND the adults wouldve loved it.

[@Shadowsintoyesterday]

The one wirh edge in 2006 wasn't on him. He originally was supposed to turn heel on edge but Vince saw how good he was making him a marketable face. So yea. I dont see it with Jericho tho. Umaga yea I get it but u gotta admit that match at RR 2007 was good.

[@theconnected7234]

your missing the point that those ruined storylines were the Cena Heel era. he was such a good heel that only WWE and himself were delusional enough to think he was the Babyface

[@Shadowsintoyesterday]

@@theconnected7234 still doesn't fall on cena tho. Wasn't his decision

[@theconnected7234]

@@Shadowsintoyesterday I never said it was, but who knows, maybe Cena knows that the best villains think they're the hero and decided to go all in on that mindset

[@Shadowsintoyesterday]

@@theconnected7234 yea wasn't the best looking back at it but some I dont fault him for it

[@wiIdcattm]

Some solid picks here. In hindsight, I'm legitimately over the Invasion angle and HHH reign. I think what started putting off to WWE started was unfortunately the overuse of Cena. I regained some interest when Bray/Fiend were featured more, but lost interest after the Goldberg bullshit and the lack of direction with the character. Turning him into a babyface, pairing him up with Alexis (no diss on her, either), the overextended feud with Orton, and the absolute wet fart of WM just flatly cemented my thoughts on WWE. Also, the Saudi thing has and always will rub me the wrong way.

[@nineteeneightynine432]

Oh god the randy orton john cena never ending feud was horrid to me it was worse than triple noses reign of terror

[@CrackedClock]

Very well said

[@joen8529]

Yeah Cena sucked, no matter what anyone says. He was no replacement for the previous main eventers, not even close.

[@jaybarbieri8619]

@@joen8529 Except he was… you just weren’t the target audience

[@zemox2534]

Because he is an adult wrestling fan unlike you? Of course he wasn't the target audience because wwe caters to an audience. That audience is a 79 Yr old man child

[@TheManInTheLongBlackCoat]

One thing not talked about was when Daniel Bryan got eliminated from the Royal Rumble, Goldust entered and on the Titantron was the words ‘SHATTERED DREAMS.’ This wasn’t coincidence, nor The Authority in character. Despite knowing everyone wanting Daniel to win, they made sure the fans knew where they stood. The company you had paid money into was deliberately openly laughing at its audience. Fun fact: one of WWE’s points they tried to get across at the time was that they listen to the fans.

[@alanmacdonald1457]

yeh vinnie has a fucked up sense of humor, he is a total sociopath. its fucked up how long he has gotten away with a lot of horrible things. hes so powerful in his industry few will talk against him

[@planescaped]

@@alanmacdonald1457 They guy even faces sexual misconduct and misappropriation of funds for a publicly traded company, not to mention his steroid trial and all the other scandals Vince has been a part of... Maybe he's just not a good person after all?

[@alanmacdonald1457]

@@planescaped have you ever seen this interview with vince when he slaps the papers out of the guys hands? 2mins 20 its fucked up kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJeQpIGjgc-tsJI

[@Testingthisname]

Not the entire audience, just the stupid smarks

[@ReinEngel]

The PG era killed it deader than dead. I even watched it during 2007 because all of my friends and the online Smackdown games, along with various fantasy leagues, made it fun more than the actual product. Around 2010 everyone just stopped caring.

[@uncledrosselmeyer6480]

2003 was when everyone stopped, and Benoit killed the industry dead, of course

[@keckneck46]

Wwe started to struggle after 2009 but imo absolutly died in 2016

[@brettrosen7490]

@@keckneck46 2016 was one of the best wwe era's ever

[@kwavyt.3181]

Yes but mostly I would put more blame on the shareholders that Vince had they mostly made it boring

[@woobgamer5210]

@@brettrosen7490 2017-2022 is the worst wwe's ever been

[@kevinramsey417]

Jim Cornette used to say that Triple-H was a six who was pushed so hard as a ten that everybody thinks he's an eight.

[@adamcallahan1582]

🤣, triple h is the Quentin Tarantino of wrestling

[@fungunsun1]

Except it doesnt apply to Triple H whatsoever. Hes an amazing wrestler.

[@thehjt7071]

We nearly at Graceland Marky

[@buri8915]

Happy af for him, funniest wrestling channel rn

[@o.g.francis9361]

Approaching Wes Brisco territory

[@Jeremy_the_unfallible_n-a]

ikr, lets all rage quit before theres no more reason to keep watching lol

[@MatthewMills.]

Mr Brisco is at the gates.

[@tnarockshard]

*Wes Pisscoe has entered the chat*

[@devious187]

Angles like Katie Vick and Rey and Eddie fighting over custody of a kid, guys like Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle leaving WWE, and then the deaths of Eddie Guerrero and the Benoit family finally drove me away from not just WWE but wrestling as a whole for a long long time.

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

Invasion Alliance period, 100%. When Vince killed the whole industry in one fell swoop, then spent years beating a dead horse and making the McMahon family the main focus of everything... ugh 😫

[@pleaseshutup7053]

This was the turn when wwe started messing up storylines

[@planescaped]

The Invasion really was the beginning of the end, though I stuck around until Evolution and HHH's reign of terror before finally asking myself "why am I watching this?" and not having an answer.

[@billybadass3056]

this post and thread literally gave me life..... wwf/e died sometime in 2002/3 and some of us that stuck around were just too stupid to realize it...

[@seinenwax94jr9]

Man, WWE/Vince really thought we were gonna buy into the idea of DDP, Booker T, Rhyno, and The Dudleyz beating and outshining the star power of Stone Cold, Brothers of Destruction ,Jericho, and prime Kurt Angle at that Invasion Inaugural Brawl lol. I'm a fan of all of those WCW and ECW guys, but they were doomed from the start looking back although the Alliance did win that particular match.

[@planescaped]

@@seinenwax94jr9 I was utterly baffled as to why Jericho, Benoit, Eddie and The Giant/Big Show weren't the frontline of the Invasion. They were WCW staples! Use your newly acquired company and video library to inform your audience of that! I know they'd spent years hiding that knowledge and trying to get people to forget, but that shit didn't matter anymore! You have gold, use it! The Big Show was literally the biggest homegrown name WCW ever produced behind Goldberg! Instead they made Austin and Stephanie McMahon the leaders of the WCW/ECW faction... wtf? Just, drove me nuts WWF/E didn't do their own Outsiders with Paul White even before WCW was bought out!

[@michaelsinger4638]

I feel like a lot of these kind of feed into the same larger problem. WWE being creatively lazy, not trying to build new people up, and Vince McMahon’d ego to do what HE wants above all else. It gets disheartening for many fans after awhile.

[@planescaped]

Vince had success doing his own thing back in the Hulkimania era and Monday Night War, but you can't keep lightning in a bottle forever, and him trying to recreate his past successes in a different world is just making WWE and Vince fall flat on their face. He really should've retired when he was on top. As his later years have tarnished his legacy tremendously.

[@kevinsims2876]

1:27 This was my number 1 🤣🤣 I've never watched since. I even remembered the watch along crew gasping and X-pac had the balls to say " how do you get disqualified from a hell in a cell match?"

[@seinenwax94jr9]

#7 on your list answers a lot of questions concerning WWE's declining fandom/rage quitting moments imo. Its also why alot of the internet fans stick around and almost "hate watch" WWE. It gives a false hope that things will be better. The Rock coming out when they were booing Roman at 5:27 is pure damage control. WWE constantly try to do a PG version of what they did in their glory days to a T, but they ignore and never do the little parts that could be a homage to their glory days. (Ex: Giving Daniel Bryan his Royal Rumble moment like they did every Austin rumble victory, The Fiend dominating Seth in the Cell like The Undertaker did Mankind, making Kofi fight so hard against Lesnar that he looks good losing the match like what Bret did to a bloody Stone Cold at WrestleMania 13)

[@TheMattyMayhew]

I personally stopped after the omega burial of Nexus by Super Cena at SS, I had that mindset of "Finally super cena is gonna get taken down a peg" but then well..... the ending happened now the only thing I remember from that entire feud is that Cena buried not only CMPunks diet soda but also an entire faction TWICE

[@theconnected7234]

how could you forget the Michel Cole commentary meltdown where he walked out on the show? it wasn't Punk's diet cola but it was the moment even Cole thought WWE was garbage

[@andu1854]

I am sorry, but if you get DDT on the concrete, you are done done done and Cena has to be Super (also the Miz was 💯 correct about Cena being wierd

[@matthewpulama106]

In my honest opinion Hawk, if you were to ask me what caused me to stop watching WWE, I'd point to the awfulness and idiocy that was The Authority angle killed my love for WWE, or at least what remained of it. I hated that storyline so much even Roman's push, as much as bungled as that was, I disliked less than seeing HHH & Stephanie from 2013-2016/2018 being among some of the WORST heels I have ever seen in any promotion whatsoever. Hell, people looking back at this angle saw it as the beginning of the horrendously sorry state WWE is currently in right now, whether it's the bad writing or shit-tastic ratings. I officially stopped watching this company after WrestleMania 34 (though this was sadly, due to me falling under the curse of "Hate-Watching".)

[@thegreenpianist7683]

I would argue it started out great, Daniel Bryan vs the Authority was actually very good (tough a bit long), once he won at WM though, it dragged on a bit until Survivor Series with Sting's debut, that was legitimately one of the best SS ever, but then that should have been it. Reinstating the authority again with Rollins and Cena was pointless (though it did help Rollins as a star in the long run), but there was no direction anymore and it just dragged and dragged pointlessly from there. Also, doesn't help that Sting BAFFLINGLY lost to HHH at WM 31 afterwards.

[@planescaped]

I only started following wrestling again near the tail end of that era... Note I said following and not watching. As what bought me back into even thinking about WWE was how horrendous people were saying it was, and on the inverse, how amazing NJPW was at the time. It's quite something just how many different things one can point to with WWE and declare "this was the worst" and be credible instead of hyperbolic. How is this company still alive? XD

[@ryanprior1294]

What I find scary is that the first 2 examples happened only a few days apart from the other

[@biggreenmantis5639]

the biggest incentive for fans to start watching AEW was definitely that week where kofi got jobbed and the rollins got dq'd in that hic match vs the fiend. It was the same week that AEW debuted in TNT. It really is insane how WWE made 2 of their biggest mistakes in recent memory just as they were gaining new competition.

[@TheWalklingPractice]

Very glad the invasion angle got number 1. The impact really can't be understated. Perhaps many fans nowadays can't appreciate what kind of effect it had, but it's the main reason 'wrestling' as a whole was ripped away from pop culture entirely. Wrestling was everywhere between 97 -01. The massive decline of viewership in of 2002 is proof of all this. Of course there are multiple factors in play here, but the Invasion angle stands heads and shoulders above every other reason.

[@IGCproductions2001]

Rey Mysterio winning a whole tournament to become champ just to drop the belt to Cena the same night he won it made me stop watching wrestling for a long time.

[@mattc060793]

I've forgiven Cena since then solely due to his 2015 run and the AJ Styles feud. However, Mysterio is my all time favorite wrestler and this one really stung. The WWE Title stat will always be on Rey's career but it was such an insult to have him job to a fresh Cena so they can hotshot Punk's return.

[@fungunsun1]

The Christian destruction by Randy Orton happened about same time. That was the end for me too.

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Ooof, yea that was a bad one.

[@TophDaGreat]

The one segment in recent years that comes to mind is the RAW where the McMahon family stood in the ring and acknowledged how bad the product was but blamed in on Corbin in storyline. They then proceeded to bullshit and say 'we are the authority' and that things would improve..............they didn't. I wanna say that was RAW 2018. Near the end of the year.

[@jaybarbieri8619]

You mean when they proceeded to give the fans everything they wanted after? Rollins and Kofi on top, womens main event of Mania, Becky Lynch as the top star of the company, NXT being acknowledged as more than just a developmental brand, Bray Wyatt’s career resurgence, they gave it all to the fans and they still bitched. No wonder they don’t listen to the fans anymore

[@TophDaGreat]

@@jaybarbieri8619 yes quickly followed by kofi losing to brock in 8 seconds. fucking up bray AGAIN in the worst HITC match of all time. Changing everything about NXT for the sake of beating AEW and failing among mnay other things. Nice try tho.

[@Hollywood2021]

@@jaybarbieri8619 giving the fans what they want isn’t best for business.

[@Chuck_EL]

@@Hollywood2021 I think people even mark think getting a pop means drawing it does not , I like Daniel Bryan but he didn't draw , that's what Vince McMahon always focused on That's why Vince Russo, Eric Bishoff, Paul Heyman all said getting a pop doesn't translate to a draw or needle mover These are the same fans who disregard anything before the attitude era and WCW nwo era That's extremely dumb , and these fans constant obsessions with the attitude era marks Is a big reason why wrestling got worse Not Vince McMahon or the writers, how can they complain Vince doesn't push fan favorites when all they did was chant Cm Punk and Daniel Bryan after they left The Cena vs Nexus thing I'll agree on because we could of had many stars from that group

[@alin81-82]

Vince admitting that night that he was out of touch & ideas.

[@planescaped]

"There's nothing to gain by having Lesnar break Undertakers streak. It once again feels like WWE aren't building towards their future" Fast forward to now, the future, and this is so bloody true...

[@Mrrwc650]

And when WWE does build towards the future yall still complain. Theory winning the MITB match is proof.

[@christophermarriott1681]

@@Mrrwc650 😂🤣 Nobody gives a shit about Theory. He won a match that he wasn't even a part of. That's not making new stars. That's making someone with go away heat. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. WWE isn't making new stars. FOH.

[@Mrrwc650]

@@christophermarriott1681 proving my point. Foh

[@JoaoPedro-hq7bs]

You know it was worthless when him beating the streak isn’t even mentioned by commentary when he comes out

[@planescaped]

@@Mrrwc650 Them panic-booking some guy (I have no idea who Theory is) isn't quite what I was getting at. More that they have no stars *now* because they have horribly mismanaged the company for *years*

[@RBRSC]

The other thing with Kofi was that up to that point, he'd been booked as a reasonably credible and dominant champion. Like Rey Mysterios first world run he was beaten up week in and out only to win at the PPV. Kofi rather was booked legit and seemed genuinely strong. So not only did they nuke him back into the midcard, but also anyone he'd worked against in the meantime.

[@planescaped]

His title win really was a shameless tie-in to all the BLM shenanigans that were going on around then. The moment tensions lowered and the media started to focus on other things, WWE looked around with shifty-eyes and punted Kofi back down the stairs to the basement. They didn't even bother to hide it... I'm surprised there wasn't more of a backlash over them so brazenly having a token champion... But people's attentions were focused on all the other chaos going on that it just flew under the radar. ACH quit WWE over a shirt design, I'm amazed the whole New Day didn't walk out after that...

[@mikedeck8381]

Kofi was never really that popular, he was a wrestler that people respected. Him being made champ was a reward for his loyalty and years of service for the company.

[@MyNameIsLegato]

@@mikedeck8381 he wasn't that popular but his title win at Mania got the biggest pop. Yeah ok

[@Chuck_EL]

@@MyNameIsLegato they actually built him up well they even had him and Orton feud even bringing in the true shoot "fuckin stupid" Orton line in their match, I felt they could of really made a legendary feud with Kofi and Orton but they panicked instead of letting it simmer and get built up , it should of lasted at least a half year

[@rugalb98]

I had a few fall offs from WWE: in late '95 after the horrendous year that was all around in WWF (Really bad WM, King Mabel's main event run, the job gimmicks, bad wrestling, etc). I would come back in early '97 through the Attitude Era up to late '07 (The year of Super Cena which even I was having a hard time believing who they had left to go against him). I would start again after WM in 2014, but the years after with the 50/50 booking of matches, wrestlers inability to cut promos (seeing them having to rehearse scripts with no emotion was awful), The Corporation Part Deux, and overall draining watching 3 hour Raws, I tapped out in 2019 right around Brock's squash of Kofi.

[@SkaterBoyMG]

For me it was the start of the PG era. I came back some time after that during the summer of punk and it felt amazing, Punk was a great worker & promo and it felt fresh. Then WWE manage to also destroy that and I quit for good

[@RegretfulDeadMan]

A good friend of mine stopped watching when Asuka and Shinsuke Nakamura both lost at WrestleMania.

[@AndreTheTruth2]

1st Japanese wrestlers to win the Men's and Women's royal rumble match on the same night surely felt like a lucid dream. At least Asuka recovered from it very well to become an honorary 5th Horsewoman. Shinsuke is in literally in mid-card hell after the AJ feud went sour.

[@DW3010]

Asuka 😍

[@glennb6020]

As a mainstream wrestling fan what killed me was the lack of a push for mainstream legend ultimo dragon. Stopped watching after that Like most casual fans

[@seinenwax94jr9]

Ultimo Dragon was and is to this day 5 million dollars worth of merchandise with his costume alone. It had to be him not knowing too much english why he got released because he could've easily been Rey Mysterio version 2.0!!

[@planescaped]

I only watched WWF back during the Monday Night War. But out of all the people on WCW I was interested in, it wasn't Kevin Nash, Goldberg, Hogan Sting or Scott Steiner. It was Ultimo Dragon.

[@Venemofthe888]

I think what killed my enthusiasm was the 2015 Royal Rumble and then Jinder winning the WWE title. Him being the champion ruined smackdown which was so popular from 2016-mid 2017 and it was so forced

[@fortcastellan1730]

Jinder becoming champion (after Wyatt was moved to Raw) really felt like upper management trying to sabotage Smackdown. But I still feel Jinder could have worked if they hadn't saddled him with that cringe-worthy 'you hate me because I'm foreign' gimmick...

[@ryananderson5202]

Get Woke go broke

[@brotherjiriyah]

I’ll say The number one reason would be after Wrestlemania 17 when Austin beat The Rock with the help of Vince McMahon. People believed that Austin didn’t need McMahon’s help as Austin had beaten Rock before on several occasions. A lot of fans were turned off by the ending and the fact that Austin was now heel as he had been a baby face for so long. This was also the end of a lot of Casual Fans watching WWE especially with ECW and WCW gone. After this point most water cooler talk about professional wrestling started to die down and after a while it started to become not cool to be a wrestling fan anymore. Most fans point that at Wrestlemania 17 the Attitude Era was done and had died (but I would disagree my personal opinion would be after Vengeance 2001) however I believe after Wrestlemania 17 the Casual Wrestling Fan and the “cool factor” of being a wrestling fan in society had died. You can also see that alot of people stopped watching wwe after Mania as well.

[@planescaped]

It was an atrocious idea from a storytelling/booking perspective and felt incredibly contrived. So much so as to take one out of the fantasy that was wrestling. Imagine if WCW had somehow managed to survive to see WWE's very own "finger poke of doom"... Though everything else on Wrestlemania X7 was pretty much the best of the best, so maybe it wouldn't have had that much of an immediate impact.

[@markrobinson9394]

The turn was badly executed because of the timing. Doing it in Texas was a bad idea because Austin was going to be cheered no matter what he did. Doing it when Rock was taking time off to go to Hollywood was an even worse idea, because the top 2 babyfaces in the company were suddenly gone and there was no one to replace them. However, from a strictly kayfabe perspective, the turn made perfect sense. Austin had recovered from neck surgery, but had seen Rock take his spot as the top star in the company in his absence. In addition, Triple H had just beaten him fair and square at No Way Out. It seemed like the aura of invincibility he had prior to the neck injury was now gone, so doubt had started to creep in as to whether he could beat Rock. Losing in the main event of WrestleMania in Texas would be absolutely devastating to his psyche, and was something that Austin could not risk happening. Thus, he put aside his feud with Vince to ensure he would win. And considering how his attitude had changed as a result of being run down by the car, it’s perfectly logical to believe he would sell his soul to get back what he lost.

[@GameFanaTICK386]

I stopped watching after Stone Cold, and The Rock left the WWE. Well The Rock became a part-timer at least. I think it was around 2003 when i stopped caring. Also hated the Ruthless Aggression Era vs the Attitude Era.

[@lordlaughypants5889]

When Punk's year long title reign was ended by the Rock just so he could drop it to Cena two months later at Mania. It told me that WWE didn't care about younger talent.

[@CarbonKnights]

I always told myself that if the WWE ever had two world champs that I hated (not heel heat, but hated the wrestlers themselves) that I'd stop watching. Now, it has been years, so I don't remember the order, but either Randy Orton had a belt and JBL won one, or the other way around and I quit cold turkey. The next time I watched was the Eddie Guerrero tribute show, and the next was the Benoit tribute show ( I didn't even know it was a tribute until it started, I was just curious what they were going to do with killing off Vince)

[@falcon176]

i remember the RAW that was the beginning of the end for me watching, it was your standard HHH in the ring with a bunch of people open, but this time it was different, because Chris Jericho interrupted and he said something about "nobody wants to listen to another 30 minute HHH monologue" and that was when I realized hey wait a minute, every show DOES open with a 30 minute HHH monologue. This sucks!

[@s0biektywnie]

For me the final nail in the coffin was turning sting vs triple h into one final burial of wcw with run ins from the nwo (whose sting was mostly fighting against) and dx and triple h winning that one was just fkn stupid

[@funandyvideos]

You nailed it, generationally- I stopped watching after the simulcast, because "The War" was over, and my kids pretty much stopped being huge on it after Roman won in 2015.

[@pete.lopeno]

The HHH Reign of Terror, the move towards PG content, the complete neutering of John Cena as soon as he became “the man,” and then the obvious heavy scripting of modern WWE turned me from a life long wrestling fanatic, to a casual viewer, to almost complete apathy. It was never any specific moment, just a death by a thousand cuts.

[@pete.lopeno]

No. That aspect was fine. He didn’t have to keep the rapper gimmick forever. My problem was they removed all edge to the character completely, to the point where he’s spray painted “poopy” on JBL’s limo. The neutering of his character was perfectly encapsulated in that moment.

[@pete.lopeno]

There’s a balance that could have been struck. If you liked it, cool. Just wasn’t for me.

[@lewisaino]

@@pete.lopeno Have him be a bice guy but with loose tempera.

[@hawklindbergh]

@@pete.lopeno Know what? TOO DAMN BAD. I had to be miserable for years for being ridiculed for liking Cena’s stuff as an adult. So frankly, I don’t have any sympathy for his haters anymore. I HOPE Cena drove you insane and made you feel bad as I did when I had to put up with all of that bullshit from other fans.

[@michiel1162]

worst thing was Cena wanted to turn heel in 2007 but Vince didn't let him.

[@callumc9872]

for me, the moment I stopped watching was the Royal Rumble in 2015. I just hated it and stopped watching for several years after that.

[@jonathancurran5366]

WWF/E had a lot of "Jump the Shark" moments between the purchase of WCW in 2001 and WM 20 in 2004.

[@planescaped]

Seriously. If WCW had somehow managed to hold on things maybe have swung back the other way...

[@FullmetalNinja25]

I stopped watching WWE when they signed an extension with Saudi Arabia the same week a woman was executed in Saudi Arabia for killing her rapist.

[@aperson5215]

Holy S***

[@OrthwormJEB]

Don't forget when a journalist was beaten to death and this was requested by the Saudi prince. I boycott watching any Saudi blood money shows back when I was still watching WWE.

[@aperson5215]

@@OrthwormJEB double what

[@alin81-82]

Never liked the wwe business relationship to Saudi Arabia. I refuse to watch crown jewel bc of it. Their a horrible government.

[@oddking1]

To me, the moment AEW was introduced immediately stoped caring about WWE but I really can’t pinpoint the exact moment that made me give up on WWE.

[@kennythetrend3688]

For me, anything Brock Lesnar won from 2017-2019 is what made me permanently stop watching. Now even from 2020-2022 he won the Royal Rumble, the WWE Championship, the main event of Wrestlemania, and now he STILL is gonna be in the main event for Summerslam.

[@Sentient_Zee]

I genuinely can’t remember when I stopped watching it. I still read what happens on Raw and Smackdown every week and I watch almost every PPV but it’s been at least 10 years for me.

[@stingersplash]

You haven't stopped watching then have you? Muppet.

[@chandlersbryant4047]

@@stingersplash Or maybe he’s talking about when he stopped watching it every week full time and just keeps up with weekly recaps & only ppvs? Moron

[@santanu-fr]

The undertaker part is absolutely on-point my dad quite after he lost to Roman.

[@anonluxor470]

I knew kofi was never going to beat Lesnar but they made kofi look weak it took 1 F5 to beat him dispite the match just started

[@njdevs1987]

The Kofi match had two major follow up problems that really killed interest. A) they moved right to Cain Velazquez as a challenger which was a wet fart of a program cause he didn't do anything. B)Kofi wasn't bothered by it. Its one thing to be like I got caught thinking I had to do something drastic cause its Brock Lesnar and he hit me with the haymaker causing a quick win. Have a rematch where you lose but its a competitive rematch showing maybe if you weren't so drastic you could have won one of the matches and Kofi says "I'll try to get better and/or earn another shot" but that didn't happen. Instead Kofi was like lol whatever making the last 6 months worthless no matter how feel good the Mania 35 win is. Alot of this list is if something worthwild came from it then it would not be as bad.

[@lewisaino]

Yeah lol Working so much and hatd but when he lost suddenly forgot his clause.

[@AndreTheTruth2]

And what's crazy is, Kofi did had a title shot, only to face the wrath of the All-Mighty Lashley.

[@rockerboyrage1609]

I've heard the moment Steve Austin shook Vince McMahon's hand was the moment many fans quit. I kept watching regularly until about 2008 or so. Came back a few times for some of the big returns but now I just don't care anymore. RIP.

[@Stoneman180190]

For me: Overuse of part timers like Brock Lesnar and Goldberg, Neverending pushes of John Cena and Roman Reigns, WWE pulling the rug out from underneath so many pushes, the Authority storyline.

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

For me it was HHH going over Booker T, to see the bosses'son in law humiliate then job out Booker T made it clear HHH was about to always book himself to win.

[@rmcdudmk212]

Yep. Triple H = POS

[@seinenwax94jr9]

Ohhhh man... The worst of that was between HHH waiting 30 seconds to pin Booker and weeks prior HHH throwing super racist slights at Booker with no retaliation from the latter Ron Simmons Harley Race style.

[@chrishodges7411]

Sheamus winning a battle royal in November 2009 and becoming number one contender soured me on wrestling. He had and still does have go away heat with me. I didn't watch anything wrestling related for at least 5 years.

[@distortedilluminations1328]

So I stopped watching when I was younger, and eventually I decided to get back into it to see what was going on. The moment I tuned back in was during the Katie Vick story line, specifically when HHH was wearing a Kane mask pretending to fuck the corpse of Katie Vick, Kane's dead Ex-Girlfriend. I am honestly shocked this moment didn't make the list, because it was so much worse than anything else WWE has ever done. I did not continue watching after that.

[@redpissbottle]

this sounds like a fever dream

[@lewisaino]

It can be part of the Reign of Terra Rizing

[@justdirt]

For me personally, it was Punk leaving WWE. I came back and watched mostly nxt, but stopped watching wwe as a whole when Charlotte won her 15th world title. Weird moment ik, but understand I was a massive fan of nxt and I had watched my favorite wrestlers go to raw and smackdown to be treated terribly or be given a dumb gimmick. Seeing the same person win the world title over and over. New Japan was really hitting its stride again around this time with Jay White, Ibushi, Naito, and Okdada being in the main event. nxt becoming nxt 2.0 was the nail in the coffin, all my favs were gone or moved on

[@silentspidergaming]

My Story here is that i was raised watching PG WWE and as a young mark I keep coming back and watch the product time after time again. So naturally as I was getting older I've grew out of watching WWE around the time Summer Of Punk has ended. But soon I've eventually found alternative wrestling promotions such as Triple A, CMLL, TNA (albeit it wasn't that great but it was an alternative) and that let me watch wrestling in a newer perspective. So the moment I've returned watching WWE was in WrestleMania 30 I'd enjoy it and I've thought maybe it change for the better. Overtime it's been a mixed bag per say. Yes AJ Styles and NXT had me still watching WWE but that same feeling would start creeping back and the final nail of the coffin was during it pandemic shows with no crowds and seeing those empty seats it was terrible and I felt knowing that there's an alternative why should I continue watching this product? And so I did.

[@CasualMysterio]

You hit it right on the head with the trend of 2019 being full of the dumbest shit. The Fiend is A LOT of people's favorite and they ruined him. All of that, combined with COVID era with no fans and the Thunderdome completely took me out of it. I still like watching wrestling videos (yours specifically) and I have enjoyed AEW off and on since its inception but its hard to care at all at the moment.

[@planescaped]

I enjoy hearing about AEW even if I don't watch them. They're the pepsi to WWE's coke. Whereas WCW was RC Cola - Super popular for a time, so much so as to actually threaten coke, but due to various reasons they failed.

[@CasualMysterio]

@@planescaped I get the Pepsi to Coke dynamic. In reality both products are more polar opposites if anything. WWE has the up on production value, commentary, and a couple other little things. AEW just flat out has better wrestling than WWE any day of the week.

[@kennythetrend3688]

@@planescaped Here's how I see it. WWE is McDonald's, bland, overpriced yet affordable, and the same old shit. AEW is Raising Canes, Fries and Tenders are awesome, but sometimes too much awesome (Too many highspots) can make you sick of it sometimes.

[@thedeadwarrior1828]

Even Though i didn't like the fiend, the hell in a cell match made me stop because it was unforgivable to have a dq in a hell in a cell match, and also, the match was boring and the ending was told before in internet which made it worst

[@unkeptorc9656]

a DQ in a hell in a cell match still makes me laugh but that's the current WWE writing in a nutshell

[@JoaoPedro-hq7bs]

They did another DQ in hell in a cell the year before I think, with Lesnar interfering in some title match

[@thedeadwarrior1828]

@@JoaoPedro-hq7bs the difference was that the year before the match was great, and technically the match was never called off so it was like they ran out of time or that mick foley couldn't referee, it was passable, but in 2019 it was too much

[@JoaoPedro-hq7bs]

@@thedeadwarrior1828 It was not passable, Lesnar just went in and did 2 F5s or something like that and that was it, a complete disrespect towards the fans, their own history and some of their most legendary performers

[@thedeadwarrior1828]

@@JoaoPedro-hq7bs true, but at least the match before hand was watchable, depends hoe much of a roman reigns fan you are

[@That_Guy-]

Lmao sending goldust out immediately after the bryan elimantion with the shattered dreams titantron in full camera view is peak vince trolling

[@noUGames]

I recently got back into wrestling but I gave up on WWE when Kofi lost in 9 seconds. I switched to AEW and been happy ever since.

[@uncledrosselmeyer6480]

Wtf..?

[@d.ink3d]

same bro feeling great since switching to aew/njpw been there since the beginning and never looked back, feels great to be a wrestling fan again

[@XploderGAMES1o1]

same here aew/NJPW are just so much better for fans , seem like they actually care

[@uncledrosselmeyer6480]

@@d.ink3d 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣🤣😂😂

[@d.ink3d]

@@uncledrosselmeyer6480 dont cry kid and watch your trash wwe, imagine being so insecure you need to reply to everyone, must suck knowing aew/njpw fans are actually happy , stay mad kid

[@thepoweroftacos5311]

The birth of AEW, covid, and the "wider audience" style WWE has been going for. Every thing is so predictable and when it isnt its like they spun an outcome wheel with little to no effort before or after

[@num1Jaysta]

Yep! It was a combination of things, but I fully stopped watching in 2020 after WM.

[@subzerofromny735]

Yeah. AEW killed WWE even though they can’t even get a million people to watch

[@MrShadowSmith]

@@subzerofromny735 that's a pretty shit logic you got there. Ratings =/= quality. By your stupid logic even fast and furious movies get billions of money and tonnes of views so they're "masterpiece" lol. Just consume whatever shitty kids product they throw at you and wait for the next one. Don't ask questions or think much because wwe will do it for you. If someone praises attitude era or AEW they're "marks". Won't expect anything else from kids who watch only pg era lol.

[@Testingthisname]

Whats wrong with the "wider audience" style? That's the point of the business

[@MrShadowSmith]

@@Testingthisname they made a lot more when they were targeting the hardcores back then. Nothing wrong in targeting "wider audience" but you can only do one because wider audience don't want violence, strong language and hardcores don't want pg13 and childish jokes.

[@enigma_offixial]

Born in 2006 I watched wrestling religiously and my three favorites were Undertaker,Jeff Hardy and Rey Mysterio but when Undertaker stopped wrestling full time I drifted and I probably stopped watching all together in 2014 but I got back on board when Jeff and Matt returned at Wrestlemania but since they were getting older I decided to look around for another couple of wrestlers I could get into. Then I found Aleister Black who had debuted the night before at an NXT takeover event and I was hooked since he felt like a culmination of everything I was into most notable kickboxing,tattoos and heavy metal. I also got into Tommaso Ciampa at that time and stuck with those two until AEW came about. I switched to AEW when I watched Darby Allin vs Cody Rhodes because much like Aleister Black, Darby Allin was a culmination of everything I'm into. I stuck with Aleister Black as a favorite until he was released and now that he's in AEW I can watch atleast 2 of my 3 favorites in the same company and I can watch those 2 possibly wrestle one day which would be awesome for me but yeah I stopped when my old favorites quit wrestling and nothing new was excited me, I got back into WWE when Jeff returned and I was introduced to Aleister Black now I'm completely off the WWE bandwagon because of how they have been handling their talent.

[@DarranKern]

You poor child

[@eddyblaze343]

something that made me quit was I felt like the characters got boring, like it wasn't fun to watch a bunch of people with no personality wrestle.

[@Dr-Alexander-The-Great]

The Eugene character, & John cena’s Main Event push. That was it for me

[@planescaped]

Oh man Eugene... I still enjoyed watching WWE at that time, but whenever he was on screen it was time to go into another room and do something else.... I couldn't believe how much they pushed him for a time. It was embarrassing.

[@IceySlush]

The never ending Cena vs. Orton feud in 2009. They ended CM Punk's world title run and then on RAW started booking Cena/Orton in a never ending cycle, even trying to use the threat that Cena would get drafted to Smackdown. When they announced a 1 hour Iron Man match for a lame PPV concept like Bragging Rights, I just tuned out and I couldn't take it anymore.

[@rdu239]

Uhhh, fuuuuk that time was just channel changing moments

[@BoltUnagi]

With the Invasion Angle they could've waited until a year later when all the bigger wcw stars were signed.

[@1zerois]

Something that I think gets lost between Austin’s heel turn and the Invasion is the brief period between the two events where WWF has practically zero Main Event baby faces. Austin and Triple H we’re pretty much just killing the fan favorite mid-card guys during that time, most notably of which was the segment where Austin beat the hell out of Lita with a steel chair. Unlike someone doing a move to a woman, this came across as like an actual assault, where Austin just wails on a defenseless women. It was supposed to get Austin over as a heel for real, instead WWF saw a drastic viewership drop on the very next episode of TV, being that weeks smack down, and those numbers never really recovered. That’s a point where a lot of causal viewers stopped watching I believe, or a lot of parents stopped letting their kids watch WWF.

[@markeedeep]

Nah I think most just thought the anticlimax of Rikishi having been the assailant in running over Austin, made the attempted transition to heel that much more stupid. But I think it was all redeemed once the angle of triple h as hidden mastermind behind Rikishi's actual attack broke through. The build up to the 3 stages of hell match, along with the actual match between triple h and Austin, was brilliant.

[@carsonmasoncole1840]

I’m pretty sure all they had for main event baby faces was Kane and undertaker for like 3-4 months. Maybe Jericho and Benoit but I’m probably remembering when they beat Austin and triple h for the tag titles

[@Mr92094]

@@carsonmasoncole1840 nah you are dead on but the issue was Kane and Taker were tag guys by 2001 and The Rock was gone so there was no one guy that ever stepped up until Austin turned face again in 2002

[@planescaped]

Vince failed to take into account that a large amount of the new audience he gained had never watched wrestling before and were coming into the show with different expectations and perspective. And so seeing such drastic character changes like Austin's heel turn felt like a break in the continuity and threw everything they had seen into question in a bad way. From the hardcore wrestling viewer standpoint it was just your typical heel turn. From the casual audience viewpoint it was a nonsensical character shift with no build or reason that was impossible to stomach.

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

I know triple h gets flack for burying guys and not puttng them over, but why doesn't austin get any? he besats guys in his feud many times, and hardly loses clean

[@RexDartEskimoSpy]

For me it was the time HHH dressed up as Kane to simulate necrophilia in a coffin at a funeral home. I remember watching that live and deciding then and there to stop watching the show. I would come back once in a while if something interesting was happening while flipping through the channels, but even in that case it's been years since I've watched anything they've put out.

[@Rusty126]

The botched invasion angle is definitely what killed my interest. I didn't stop watching for a little while longer, but it definitely felt like an era had come to an end.

[@creeker2017]

I got away from wrestling for the same reason you did for a while and came back to it as I got a bit older. When I came back it felt like WWE had just such a noticeable decline in quality. I found way more joy in watching other companies. I think for the WWE, it wasn't even so much that they lost competition. They just stopped wanting to be wrestling. They have such a clear bias for models and athletes over actual wrestlers. The promos are poorly written and so few wrestlers are allowed to go off script. The matches at times can be just so obviously scripted and choreographed, it's like the wrestlers are just making sure they're standing in the right spot waiting for their cue rather than just wrestling. They never listen to fans anymore, doubling down when the fans aren't into something rather than trying a different approach. They almost seem to get joy out of taking away something that fans actually like. They have the largest roster in the world but only use the same 10 people on every single show. They run matches to death, making the same wrestlers pair up week after week after week, with no break between.

[@CrustyCYA]

There's been many things that have slowly turned me away from WWE but I think the Fiend jobbing to Randy Orton at WM37 to end a feud that should've ended months ago was what did for me. It feels like the creative team has really awesome ideas that they don't know what to do with in the long run. Roman turning heel as the Tribal Chief I think has been one of the best decisions WWE has made in years. And yet, they can't bring themselves to elevate a good enough babyface to compete against him. They dropped the ball with Big E, they don't wanna pull the trigger on Matt Riddle, Drew is an afterthought while Roman's champion, and Cody had an amazing push but who knows how long his injury will halt that. So instead, we get Roman vs. Brock again and again

[@albertthepeacock8020]

And again and again and again

[@albertthepeacock8020]

And by WM 2024 we'll get Logan Paul vs Mr Beast at the main event

[@daveyardbird7430]

When HHH buried Booker T at Mania 19. Had been watching WWF since 1983, and that’s what did it for me. Took until the network over a decade later to regain some interest. Also anytime they pull out the sledgehammer I shut it off.

[@docgravenshmit6692]

as Kevin Nash said recently, there's no heat anymore. now it's like watching a bunch of acrobats. they do a piss poor job of selling real tension.

[@squarepickle]

Can we consider 12 years of John Cena a moment? If so I'd say that's the moment WWE died.. Ironically the people saying "we need Cena back" are either too young or too oblivious to what ran fans off between 2005 - 2017 to begin with.

[@Al7249]

It depends on what capacity he'd be back. As a part timer, fuck no but as a once in awhile kinda like Taker at mania thing then yeah. The less we see of him and when we do it's in a putting over young talent or great feuds thing then nah lol

[@pleaseshutup7053]

John cena was good in 2005 he was still the dr as soon as he became the marine that’s when he stared getting lame

[@falconmclenny7284]

I seen someone call the us title invitational 'legendary' Every single one of the rocks electrifying shirts, on their own, were more entertaining than cenas entire career let alone the invitational. 'Legendary'... kids man.

[@therealangelalexander1858]

@@falconmclenny7284 let people enjoy what they wanna enjoy bruh

[@Sandrinosudigiri]

I see people call his feud with Orton "legendary", at the times it was a nightmare everytime they had a match with each other

[@epa316]

I started watching with my brother when Hogan was big, and the Ultimate Warrior was up and coming. What hooked me was The Undertaker’s character. I continued to watch all through the 90s and early 2000s, but when they broke Taker’s streak, that was it. I was done. I’ll watch a few clips on KZbin now and then, but no more than that.

[@masterthomas7872]

For me, it was the Benoit tragedy that did it for me. I think it tuned me out of watching the WWE after everything and it felt....wrong.

[@empressink_]

2014 was the end for me, things started changing for the bad and Undertaker losing his streak in that way killed it. I used to just tune in for Wrestlemania season during that time but gave up probably sometime in 2010 maybe. I haven’t been into wrestling since, only catch glimpses here and there 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@GamingSaturnMoonManBoy]

I got bullied over watching wrestling in 4th and 5th grade and especially for liking John Cena. Kids would tell me he sucks just to egg me on only for me to say “ok you say Cena sucks then you suck too” I would always get in trouble standing up for John because of how I would retaliate back. The good old days when I didn’t understand why people hated John Cena

[@joen8529]

Because John Cena was the absolute worst, just awful, and the PG era WAS John Cena. That’s when wrestling died.

[@KeiFresh]

That Hell in a Cell match of Rollins v Fiend REALLY pushed me over the edge

[@misterray818]

I more or less quit watching wrestling during the "Reign of Terror" era. Got tired of seeing Triple H never get his comeuppance. As far as the Invasion storyline, that was nothing more than a mass burial for McMahon to declare his victory over his former competition. Sting, 14 years later, was the last grave he needed to fill

[@lepuke6854]

I was a child in the 80's. WWF was something I loved ever since I was a kid. Things got so bad but I still stuck with them all those years. The day Goldberg beat The Fiend in like 1 minute while he was white hot at the Saudi show. I cancelled my WWE network subscription that day and haven't looked back.

[@CynicalBeard]

There were two for me. The blood money deal with Saudi prince, and how WWE handled Reigns’ leukemia to get him over.

[@Honk_Hogan]

Now that you point it out, Undertaker’s streak ending might’ve been what killed it for me. I was already despondent, and then I heard the streak ended which I refused to believe. Brock Lesnar is a cool wrestler (or at least he was) but that was the start of him and Roman being shoved down everyone’s throats. I deadass can’t enjoy any Lesnar match now cause of the stink of that moment partly.

[@user-tl4fi6oy8d]

Vince and Austin shook hands for a shoot reason in the middle of the ring: winning the Monday Night Wars. The look on both of their faces says "we did it." They had just bought WCW a week earlier. X7 ended the Attitude Era and the WWF's competition. No one seems to realize what this handshake was about. Evil Vince and Stone Cold are largely why the WWF won the war. This heel turn only makes sense for this reason. It was for Vince's ego. He must always win and rub his victory in everyone's face, even if it costs him money and viewership. He can't resist.

[@bwareist]

The Attitude Era ended in Mid 2002.

[@user-tl4fi6oy8d]

@@bwareist I don't care about John Cena saying ruthless aggression in the ring. In reality it ended at X7 when the WCW was dead and ECW was also gone. There was no reason to watch wrestling anymore, at least not WWF, after this, and if you liked the other promotions you were fucked. As the Hawk noted, millions left during this time and never came back. So the Invasion angle was also a part of the Attitude Era? Or was it because WWF kept running the Attitude graphic? What followed, a graphic of John Cena's balls? So that started the next era? What attitude is needed when you have zero competition?

[@Mr92094]

@@user-tl4fi6oy8d as far as I’m concerned it ended 3/26/01 when Shane McMahon showed up on Nitro and X7 just solidified it was over

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

I hated 2015 the most due to roman being overpushed and authority all over the tv. But i left after hiac match and booking of fiend in 2019 i mean how could you ruin your one of the best character. It's like making undertaker job to top stars in early 90s. I remember loving drew McIntyre winning royal rumble in 2020. Then during covid i left wrestling for quite bit

[@ASwagPecan]

I can’t remember any exact programs but WWE had gotten so bad in 2014 after Daniel Bryan cooled off that I stopped watching until pandemic boredom brought me back in.

[@monkeytime9851]

For me it was when Charlotte broke Asuka's streak at mania and the show gave not even a moment to highlight that, and instead switched immediately to Cena waiting on Undertaker.

[@LoneLeeGH]

I'd been watching WWE since I remember being alive with some breaks in between. Didn't watch much of the Diesel era but watched religiously beginning with Austin's rise all the way to the guest host era of Raw. Even then, I still watched Smackdown, Superstars, Main Event, etc. It felt like a chore to watch since then with some bright spots in the middle but it wasn't until Royal Rumble 2022 that I said I was finally done. Bored of Brock and everything else. The format is unwatchable, the matches are predictable and inconsequential, and the commentary is unbearable. I'll check out a few promos on KZbin and maybe a match at PPVs but I'll never watch it regularly again unless there is a complete overhaul.

[@agent95_]

What I learned today was that the hawk is a follower and if someone starts to make fun of him, he would rather go with the crowd, then be a leader and actually enjoy what he likes

[@grafspe807]

I go all the way back to Pedro as the champ in the 70s and have seen a lot of bad stuff over the years but i would say that it was the Kati Vick story line with HHH and Kane was the point that soured me on WWE . I gave them 1 more chance when they were bringing in guys like Styles ,Samoa Joe , Gallows/Anderson , Bobby Rude Prince Devit ect but out side of Styles these guys were treated as jokes and really AJ didnt really get over like he should have and i have not watched since Reigns won the feud with Styles. Thankfully now days there is so much more ways to see other wrestling than what ever your local TV station has or in the 70s/80s what ever territory your satellite could pick up from around the country at 2 am

[@gking2709]

The biggest reason for me was the Rock & stone Cold leaving + the invasion

[@Chuck_EL]

You know WWE existed before the attitude era right?

[@gking2709]

@@Chuck_EL what's that have to do with anything

[@Ai14106]

The loss of casuals was big in Austin turning heel and undertaker losing

[@uncledrosselmeyer6480]

The casuals tuned out after the steroid trial & never really came back. The industry had a brief spike in business amongst young adults in 1996-99 due to NWO and then Steve Austin, but it was nothing compared to 1984-89

[@doddsino]

Before I watch, I'll just say this; SummerSlam 2013 That was the last time I watched WWE, and one of the last times I watched a wrestling product in general. To say the result of the main event pissed me off is an understatement. This was WWE again pulling the rug out from underneath the fans, who desperately wanted something different. I'm not like a super big Daniel Bryan fan, but that was one of the biggest middle fingers you can give to your fans to just keep screwing them over and over and over. And at that point, I had given up on WWE ever changing. I don't care if they rectified it later at WrestleMania, it was too little too late. I had stuck it out for too long and they lost a LIFETIME fan through their arrogance.

[@pleaseshutup7053]

The Daniel Bryan made sense to build towards wrestlemania I don’t get your point

[@chandlersbryant4047]

@@pleaseshutup7053 Exactly lol, not to mention He had a good feud with Orton afterwards for the title before Orton and Cena had that unification match at TLC then Bryan ends up getting put in the Main Event of Mania 30 and wins in an upset & getting back at Orton and HHH for Summerslam 😂

[@ksturdevant10]

Daniel Bryan beating 3 members of evolution single handedly in one night was the final nail in the coffin for me

[@Wildstangs]

He’s a great value Benoit hell had similar moment 10 years apart

[@fungunsun1]

Well you are definitely in minority here. People loved Bryan at the time.

[@ksturdevant10]

Perhaps, but they didn't need to beat you over the head with the fact that it's all fake as hell!! And let's just send um home happy

[@maxtracker2904]

Between Seth’s full beard and the fiend, the red light district in Wolverhampton must be pretty rough 😳 Top list as usual! And more old TNA please! I didn’t pick it up until Angle arrived and the first few years seem hilarious.

[@Markyd123]

Check out my nwa tna review series if you haven’t already. I just covered episode 50 on the previous video this this one.

[@ryanprior1294]

The fact that I feel like the majority of these are in the modern era makes me feel that Vince doesn't care about the product anymore

[@pleaseshutup7053]

The issue is wwe has loyal fans no matter what so he can do whatever he wants

[@andrebryant5081]

It's like WWE is the Simpsons they can be bad because they are still making money from their great past

[@deepvoicedude4749]

What’s your definition of modern era? I doubt people who stopped watching prior to the attitude era follow MarkyD

[@ryanprior1294]

@@deepvoicedude4749 sorry I don't know if I'm on the same page as you weren't those eras called golden and new generation prior to the attitude era?? If you're talking about people who were invested back then I'd say you're correct but those old school wrestling fans I'm guessing wouldn't really watch or know about the modern era either due to tuning out Then again there are those hardcore fans and I wouldn't be surprised if they follow the hawk. He's an entertaining guy

[@MarvelMTs]

I stopped watching WWE in 2012; it wasn’t a moment as it was several things collectively: Storylines became stale, main events were repetitive and all the fan favorites were either retiring, becoming part timers, getting injured or becoming heels so I couldn’t cheer for anyone. So with no fan favorites, no new main events and no new storylines, I had no will to watch. I watch AEW, Impact & NJPW now.