10 Reasons Why You May Have to Avoid Yamaha Tracer 9 GT

[@d0n_key]

Having ridden this bike for 11 months now, I thought I'd share my agreements and disagreements. 1. Yes, the stock windshield doesn't fully cover you from wind, it hits pretty much at eye level for me - so I got a shorter one to improve looks and get rid of turbulences (thought that doesn't happen with every helmet). 2. I don't have any issues launching the bike, but in the beginning it was hard to get used to the clutch, since its grabbing point is *very* far out. That's actually one of the major flaws I see with this bike. So I believe your issue is a user error due to not being used to the clutch. 3. Everything you say about the seat is 100% accurate. I'm 1.85m, and it's surprisingly hard to waddle around with this bike, due to the wide seat. Though it's not worse on longer trips than the softer seats I've had on previous bikes for me personally. 4. If I see it right, your pegs are in the lower position (because there's drilled holes above the mounting points to reposition them higher). The bike is pretty cramped, but just like the footpegs, the handlebar can also be adjusted (a bit forward & up). Also the seat could be readjusted to be a bit higher and more forward, so that would decramp the legs but get you even closer to the handlebar, and I assume you'd have a very hard time reaching the ground then :D 5. Haven't experienced that, maybe your tire is worn weirdly, or I'm just more used to Yamahas overall. 6. Pretty normal for sports bikes to have high&lowbeam split, and Yamaha has had that as a signature concept on their top-end motorcycles for ages. But I can understand if people dislike it. (The lights are pretty good at night tho) 7. Yes, the switchgear could be better - especially the menu wheel on the right is horribly designed, and together with the clutch leaver it's the two major design flaws with this bike imo. 8. I personally like the cockpit-like speedometer unit(s), but it is objectively worse than on most other bikes cause it doesn't offer connectivity (but you can mount your phone in between them pretty nicely). 9. I haven't had any issues with the engine in over 11kkm, but Yamaha has had a recall earlier this year to fix some programming error that could turn the engine off unexpectedly. 10. I personally don't like Keyless Go on cars or bikes, but yeah it's an objective downside to not have that offered. I would've appreciated a TPMS too.

[@Baza0101]

Tracer 9 or Africa Twin ?

[@experimentalcyborg]

The one lamp thing is actually specifically for safety. Having two lamps close together in the dark can make you look to oncoming traffic like a far away car while you're actually a really close motorcycle. Because the space between headlights is pretty standard on cars.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

First of all, ones who look directly into the oncoming lights of vehicles get temporarily blinded and so should get educated, secondly I bet one would have to have extremely powerful eyes to recognize two separate lamps shining from a distance instead of one larger glare. Or maybe it's just me who's not looking straight into the lights.

[@ralfk.5552]

Ah, thats why Yamaha has it different at the Tracer 700 GT! There are both Lamps low and High Beam!

[@laurenpeters1542]

yes you're right is because of safety reasons

[@vin_sr5]

I think this review is a tiny bit overly critical. I’ve logged 2.5k miles on my GT over 2 months and it has done everything I need of it as my main mode of transportation and weekend riding. Affordable, safe, comfortable, very fun to ride, great for pillion riding, and decent fuel economy. The windshield and buffeting is definitely an issue and probably my biggest gripe with the bike. I would like a remap, but I haven’t noticed the clutch itself being an issue for me. Anyone saying the seat is uncomfortable should probably do some squats. Coming from an r6 I’m in Heaven on this seat. Styling is always an opinion, the functionality of the lights is all I care about and I rarely need to use the high beam because of how well the low beam works. I’ve received the recall notices from Yamaha, but haven’t had any issues with engine stalling or CEL’s. There’s enough bells and whistles on this bike, I’m fine without remote features.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

This is a solely "reasons to avoid" video. There's another one that's showing the opposite side with all the pros of the bike. You might want to check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4WkppuqfJZobsU

[@ZTK-RC]

GR Supra has a wind buffet problem out of the factory, its a thing Japanese must get wrong because they have a special turbulent air there

[@icxc]

Answer why the engine died: "On March 7, 2022, Yamaha Motor Corporation U.S.A. issued a safety recall for all 2021 and 2022 MT-09 and Tracer 9 GT bikes due to an improperly programmed electronic control unit (ECU). Due to this improper programming, affected units could unexpectedly have their engines stall in certain circumstances, which the recall states “could result in loss of control and a crash with severe injury or death.” Approximately 3,594 individual bikes are involved in this recall, representing 100 percent of the population. Affected bikes were produced between November 10, 2020 and February 9, 2022."

[@RunningRoger1]

Also got this recall last week in Switzerland but never actually had experienced the problem myself.

[@icxc]

@@RunningRoger1 People in Poland also have ECU updates. Another problem is the heated grips for the GT version. Yamaha replaces them with new ones.

[@dougchaney6063]

@@icxc Whats the problem with the grips?

[@icxc]

​@@dougchaney6063, I don't remember correctly. I think it was about the handles coming loose. And some people have complained about low engine speed jerking - the problem was the sensor in the throttle. I have Tracer 9 '22, there are no issues with both.

[@nickynanji]

Brilliant. Love the fact that you're pointing out details that most journalists don't ever mention such as, why Yamaha actually sells accessories that area 'great' instead of just making it standard.

[@Bush0r]

To your number 6: Yamaha does this because studies shown that motorcycles with only 1 beam active are less likely to get involved into accidents. :o

[@WASD43100]

Yup, 'cause in the dark a bike with two completely separate lights look like a faraway car.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I guess you'd have to be pretty close to be able to see that there are 2 separate beams and not just one blast of light shining in your face after dark - considering how much the bikes shake up and down on regular roads and blind other drivers because of that anyway. It's also advised and indeed works after dark to NOT look directly at the lights of oncoming traffic as you get blinded by them and later see nothing for a while. So I'm not buying it. However, in some places it's legally required for motorcycles to have one "lamp". Still, as long as it's one unit (one part), it complies. All other bikes manage it this way. On the other hand, if those separate lamps aren't located at the point which is at the "top" of the bike's "nose", it may be less visible or completely obstructed by a bike's body from the opposite side. Nah, again - I'm not buying that questionable safety theory.

[@Bush0r]

@@VToldsMotoShow Well, that "questionable safety theory" are official studies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@UndergroundSessions1]

So they forget about that on the Tracer7? That has a double beam all time.

[@Bush0r]

@@UndergroundSessions1 They only do that on bigger volume bikes. 900cc up

[@SquireSCA]

I have a 2021 Tracer 9 GT and have started doing videos and mods and stuff of it on my channel. I have to agree in many of your issues. The stock screen is horrible with buffeting on your helmet, the stock seat is very uncomfortable... The Yamaha comfort seats aren't offered in the US, and nobody overseas seems to have them in stock anyway. I did install a Puig sport screen and it made it much better. One thing that helps the stock seat, is a shim kit. It lifts the front 8mm so that it doesn't slope forward as much, so you are more flat, and not forced to sit on "your boys"... The jerky launch is a combination of tall gearing, and the ride by wire throttle tables(ETV). In the lower gears, you can give it 20% throttle and it will only give you like 4% down low. When you give it 100% throttle it won't deliver more than 50% power until you hit 6000rpm... Woolich just released an ECU flash for this bike, this week... so those throttle restrictions and the sluggish response can be fixed, so that is good news...

[@VToldsMotoShow]

That's an interesting set of insights - thanks for sharing with us. I wonder why they screw up such basic things that we've got to fix them ourselves afterwards. Likely getting an aftermarket seat or having the original one redone should be the go-to option not to allow Yamaha to make profit due to their strategy of pretty much trying to scam us. Cheers!

[@operationsoperations5515]

As a loyal Yamaha guy l was a bit sceptical about seeing the bad points you were going to discuss in your video. However, after watching it I must say that I agree with most. Especially in the issues of the comfort seat which should come as standard, a better screen which also should come as standard, the horrible dash - For God's sake, give as an interactive TFT like the competition has...., and the clutch issue, which has been the mention of several reviewers already. All in all a very honest video and l am surprised you do not have more likes. Anyway, it was enough for me to subscribe. Thank you. Instead of trying to make more money with their aftermarket catalogue, they should include the better screen, seat etc on the actual bike as it comes as it might help them sell more bikes and make more money this way, especially in light of the competition that exists these days. Oh and I forgot to say.......just like you say.....Yamaha, please make those lights symmetrical !!!!!! they do look super stupid when just one side lights up and it makes one of them look fused. Whoever started that stupid trend!!!!!

[@majormassenspektrometer]

What's the problem with the clutch? I never had an issue with the clutches on my Tracer 700 or 900.

[@67daltonknox]

Reading other comments below, I see a number of people attacking Yamaha quality. I have to say my 3 Yamahas (FJ1200, R1, FJR1300) were easily the most reliable bikes I have owned, compared to 2 Hondas (Hawk GT, CBR900RR) electrical problems, 2 Suzukis (DRZ 400S, DL-1000) electrical problems, fuel pump, Ducati Multistrada (total POS, don't get me started) and then ancient history: Velocette Venom, Ariel Arrow, DKW (easily the most reliable of the old bikes) Francis Barnett Falcon. My KTM 1290SAS has so far been perfect, but it is only 2 years old.

[@ds8021]

I put 26k miles on the predecessor to the 9GT, the FJ-09. This review is good. Most of the 'issues' are present on any brand motorcycle. Crap seat, weird choices made by the engineers, corners cut to save a dime, etc. If you like the platform you will spend thousands to personalize the bike. Part of the inane game motorcycle riders do. But I will opine that the original FJ and the Tracer are overwhelmingly mediocre machines. Apparently each year Yamaha added something to the platform that makes sport touring reasonably enjoyable. Quick shifter, heated grips, CRUISE CONTROL, crappy windshield (still) and plastic luggage. Finally added some adjustability to the front forks. The disappointing thing is that they are still mediocre bikes. Reviews of the Tracer GT 9 say the suspension is still lacking. I read that the fueling is better but still not great. It was dangerously bad on the earlier FJ. The front end is still too light. The brakes still fall bellow the experienced quality of Brembo. And it is still a tall seat height for no really good reason. Every Japanese bike I have ridden has had a GREAT engine surrounded by mediocre everything else. Admittedly I haven't bought a superbike with top line everything, nor a 600+ lb touring rig. If the Japanese bikes sold for reasonable money through a network of dealers you could have even an iota of respect for, it might seem a more fair or realistic deal. Instead the only dealers seem to be conglomerates owned by hedge funds that want $160 per hour labor for service and you have no idea what, if any, expertise or knowledge the mechanics possess for your specific bike. I think the whole Japanese motorcycle market pretty much operates on the principle that you will only keep it two years, put maybe 10k on it and dump it for the next big thing (that is really much the same), or decide "that was fun, but I had enough".

[@VToldsMotoShow]

There's something about those dealerships. I do agree that overall they're to me much less desirable motorcycles in any category comparing to European brands' products. I feel that the Tracer is pretty good but maybe because there's not many similar bikes that could compete with it from European manufacturers. BMW F900XR is one but what else? And to me Tracer 9 beats this particular BMW which at the same time could make it arguably the best bike in this narrow category.

[@johnsy59]

D S, You are absolutely correct. I think all the Japanese bike manufacturers are becoming so lazy with innovative design and R&D that they are deliberately building in redundancies and then offering upgrades, accessories or fixes for an extra cost or you have to wait for next years model. They are treating their customers like idiots. For many years even scooters in China come keyless, with huge colour TFT screens, electronics, comfy seats and ergonomics that put mid range Japanese bikes to shame.

[@knightmare8083]

The GT+ fixes a number of issues especially the dash screen but, the one headlight and the windscreen still sucks.

[@merontom]

actually the one beam thing is made for safety. at night, when 2 beams are on at all time, people who see you in the mirror can think u are a car which is very far away, because they are closer to each other than a normal car. one beam isnt the safest but maybe its better. check it out if u want to see for yourlef

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I've heard that theory and never agree with it. At night, one or two light sources below 50 cm next to each other still appear to human eye as one glaring source of light. I'm not buying this explanation at all. It's just someone's strange idea of an explanation that's not backed up by real life scenarios.

[@Harlin67]

Having owned a Z100SX for 6 years, with large dual running lights, the lights on the Tracer and MT bikes are the sole reason the Tracer will never ever make my list. In the UK, we have moronic drivers, yet, compared to my older bikes, I've yet to have anyone pull out on me as I'm clearly visible. Yamaha maybe don't understand how critical being seen is as a biker, which is odd, from a motorcycle manufacturer . Its inexcusable in my view.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Hadn't thought about this. Thank you!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

It also doesn't stop to amaze me why they keep doing that. It also just looks strange.

[@67daltonknox]

I agree about the cramped riding position, which is why I passed on buying one. Keyless ignition though is another matter. I got a 1290SAS and I have to put a new battery in the fob every 6-8 months. Yes it will still start, but it puts a "no key within range" message that obliterates some useful things on the screen. A bad solution to a problem that didn't exist - I have happily used keys for almost 60 years.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

KTM can screw up even the best solutions unfortunately. It definitely shouldn't be dying after such a short time.

[@mickeypopa]

@@VToldsMotoShowWhy not? It constantly has to send signals to the bike's computer that it's there. That certainly puts a drain on the battery. Keys on the other hand work perfectly every time and have been for decades. You stick it in and it's there until you take it out. It doesn't move, it doesn't need a battery, it can't go bad due to moisture, etc. Not every thing from the past is obsolete, you know. There are some inventions that stood the test of time and for a good reason.

[@zyonsdream]

I’ve owned 32 motorcycles. Without figuring out how many had a windscreen, I’d estimate it to be a lot. I don’t recall the last time I didn’t replace the windscreen with an aftermarket. Many times I had to go through a few to find the right one for me. These reviewers seem to expect that a windscreen should work for every person. That’s impossible.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Right - it's impossible. That's why I'd focus on those of average size. I'm 183 cm tall/6 feet tall, so would say that not so far from quite average. I've got the same observation as I haven't experienced a stock windshield that would be good enough for me. Aftermarket - definitely yes.

[@zyonsdream]

@@VToldsMotoShow well the average height for an American male is 5’9”. I’m 5’10” but my In seam is 30.” This means my torso is about 4 to 6” longer than normal. This is why it’s impossible to do a windscreen for the average person. Now according to Google, the average Japanese man is 5’7.2”. That 3 inches can make a huge difference. It’s just an impossibility to build a bike that has the exact ergos to fit the average person.

[@davduarte]

If the bike shuts down on its own, there is a known issue with the side stand switch. After replacement it stops happening.

[@TheAskme32]

exactly, from my bike and also from 3-4 people i know with same bike there is not such an issue.

[@karlosh9286]

All of the reasons you mention not to get a Tracer 9 GT sound valid to me, apart from keyless ignition. I've got keyless ignition on one bike and one car I own. I hate it on both of them. I've got another car and a bike without keyless ignition, and I think they're better for it. On cars, well the remote central locking remotes that have been around since the 1980s, solve all the issues of opening up the doors. I've never had an issue putting a key in an ignition switch. Keyless ignition is a security issue. It's easy to ride or drive off without the key . The fobs are way more expensive than non keyless fobs. So to me, keyed igniton is a reason to get a Tracer 9 GT ! However I do put up with it on one of my bikes, because the bike has many other features that I love. So having keyless ignition isn't a deal breaker, but I'd rather not have it. As for the issues you mention about the noisy wind shield, lights, dashboard, engine dying, rock hard seat, suspect handling, fueling issues. Yeah, they could definitely be deal breakers for me. So thanks for that . Good video (so Upvote from me !) , but we'll have to agree to disagree on the one point about keyless ignition !

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks for sharing. I was genuinely curious about the reasons for you not liking the keyless ignition and you've explained them all. I believe that on most if not all motorcycles, it's just an option that you're able to skip if you don't want it. Very nicely described by you! Cheers!

[@karlosh9286]

@@VToldsMotoShow I couldn't skip keyless ignition on a 2020 Speed Triple RS ! (other than not buying it )

[@karlosh9286]

@@VToldsMotoShow About the only bike that could make sense with keyless ignition is say a Honda Goldwing, where the keyless fob also operates the locks to the panniers and I think fuel tank. Keys for top boxes / panniers can be a bit of pain.

[@markchalloner5883]

Ran into a guy the other day whose Harley wouldn't start because his key fob fell out of his pocket! His wife was on the way with the spare, from 200 miles away. Keys are key!

[@stevevisscher1350]

Six months in now with my Tracer 9GT+ and yes, I agree about the seat. Even the alleged “comfort seat”, which I have, is hard and poorly deigned. It is awful and really detracts from the touring experience. I’m now considering having the seat remodelled and adding extra cushioning, or trading the bike in for something more comfortable. It’s a shame because the performance otherwise is amazing.

[@UndergroundSessions1]

I like your critical style. Great alternative to the "invited to the press release so going to be reasonable" reviews. If this bike was €12000 new I could live with these negatives it but i'm steering away more and more from the Tracer9. I have Tracer7 right now and thinking about something new.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it and I'm glad that you like it since it's a different perspective - more hardcore. But there's also another view presented on the positives in a separate video. As for automotive journalists - their job it to... keep their job, so obviously there's trouble after even a sentence of critique. Or at least that generates tensions later at other events. That used to be my previous industry, including seeing the relations with journalists - I can confirm that it's exactly as you mentioned. I hope you find yourself an even better-suiting new bike. Cheers!

[@dougchaney6063]

The Tracer 7 platform highlights one of the worst thing about the Japanese manufacturers Yamaha in particular maybe because they relegate it to a pricepoint motorcycle designed to get favorable enough reviews to get folks into the showroom but then sitting next to it will be what they REALLY have in mind you buying as you grieve over the fact that options are not even available as an upgrade on th pricepoint platform....like cruise control etc sorry you have to spend thousands more and buy the heavier platform...which I believe is all part of the marketing ploy to upsell...which is so screwed I believe

[@UndergroundSessions1]

@@dougchaney6063 ofcourse! Thats just how marketing works right... In the category, Tracer7 operates it is is the best option imo. Tiger 660 also good now (also no cruise control ;)) but thats just been made to compete with the tracer 7. Nothing original about it.

[@majormassenspektrometer]

@@dougchaney6063 Please explain further how the Tracer 700 is the worst thing about japanese manufacturers? I have one and it's awesome except for the suspension. It has no cruise control? No TFT Display? No Dumbphone connectivity? No "comfy seat"? I'll take that over an overpriced KTM dogsheit bike anytime. I've ridden it more than a thousand kilometers over one day and never a thought occured that I now need a fooking TFT display or cruise control. I can't leave cruise control on for longer than a minute anyway because all these dipsheits in front of me are not on cruise control and their speeds vary. I would suggest to people who are complaining about these sort of things to look for another manufacturer like KTM or Ducati. Please spend your money on these bikes while I ride japanese bikes and not wasting my time in dealerships to get these bikes fixed. I got a good price for my 700 Tracer and have ridden it for almost 30.000km now with no trouble so far. I wouldn't want to sell this one for any other bike. For the price it offers a lot of fun and I hope next year to get the Tenere 700 - yeah the one with no TFT display and no cruise control...

[@majormassenspektrometer]

9:50 maybe this was because of the tyres? Shitty tyres tend to do that. Also the Tracer has scrapers on the footpegs. On my Tracer 700 when I hear they scrape on the tarmac I know it's probably a good idea to stop.

[@jmsmikey]

Thank you for talking me into buying the Honda NT1100~ if you ever visit Las Vegas, you can borrow it for your whole trip.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Be careful as at some point I may be there ringing your doorbell. Cheers!

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

Useful thoughts. Very informative for all interested in ST bikes. :) Thumb up.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I'm glad you found it useful, RRR. Cheers mate!

[@dougiequick1]

I have had the bike a year and half not quite 10k miles mostly 50 to 250 mile runs mostly twisty roads pleasure not commuting. I am 70ish year old fast paced rider 5' 10"ish 165llbs without gear and ZERO issues with the seat or windshield (unless high crosswinds etc) idk maybe I have an iron butt? lol I also have no issues with my 690 ktm enduro seat which is generally well hated as a plank ....in fact that bike came with a comfort seat which I dont like cuase it is wider. Also I believe the starting out supposed clutch issue was resolved by recall reflash of ecu done before I picked up my bike....mostly an easy to take off on bike though I am sure a couple more teeth on rear sprocket would make it wonderful at the expense of fuel range? Which btw is awesome at 250miles IF I am riding with a group at slower pace than if alone in the twisties. There is very little to complain about with this model other than the funky scroll wheel which is difficult to execute a function (same wheel on my MT-10 is much easier go figure) I also HATE that Yamaha wont let me change suspension back and forth on the fly from A1 to A2 ...THAT is STUPID! I can SELECT that function's setting but cant change it until stopped?? (or at a crawl sometimes) WTF Yamaha??? Another more personal problem which is related to my personal health issue is the vibration which causes a problem with my fingers when cold as I have a form of Reynauds disease called "vibration white finger" Which if anything may be the reason I have to either get a differnt smoother Sports Touring motorcycle or wire in some heated gloves! But MAN those gloves are restrictive for movement! I can barely move my hands with the Cycle Gear brand of heated gloves even in XL (largest size in the store that day)

[@kulter20]

I agree on a lot of points. The seats in particular are awful if I compare them to my first bike; Honda CB500X. And the menu wheel it just... not great. But the CP3 engine is something I fell in love with. And I feel that the handling is great on this bike. Just get rid of the standard tires Yamaha puts on. I'm going to rent a BMW S1000XR next week. I wonder how much I will like that one.

[@ab-tn4yp]

Can you tell us hows xr compared to tracer?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I'm also curious what you think about the S1000XR in comparison to the Tracer 9. It's an interesting task to analyse these two head-to-head.

[@dumptrump3788]

Yup, I replaced the screen with an MRA Vario. The seat...I'm getting an Airhawks & I've levelled it out as bit. I'm pretty tall so the width doesn't bother me. This is a Good Thing because, although Yamaha sells replacement seats, getting ANYTHING from Yamaha for the T9GT in the US is almost impossible. In Europe there's pages upon pages of accessories on the Yamaha website, but in the US there's just a paltry list of 10 items & almost all of them are "Out Of Stock". I agree with the lighting, I don't care how it looks but at night I don't think just one light illuminates the road enough, it needs both. The 2 TFT screens are UGLY & need to be replaced on the next refresh with a truly modern screen.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks for sharing your perspective. Interesting thought about the way you're handling the seat issue there. Hopefully it will be useful to other owners in here. I'm surprised with Yamaha having supply issues in the US though. One would thought that those aren't really parts in hot demand. Clearly they seem to be somewhere else.

[@matthewjackson3034]

Also looking to get the MRA Vario. Dont know to go clear or smoke.

[@dougchaney6063]

As far as one headlight not being adequate to cover the frontal area of a motorcycle in general? That idea only makes sense on a wide 4 wheel car/truck etc ...we are just so car centric that it seems wrong to have just one headlight on off center to the motorcycle but that is unreasonable in general. I mean more light is always better than less and the unsymetical look of one out one on is offfensive but practically for the average rider? There is no problem....personally I avoid riding at night anyway...BUT if there was an upgrade that doubled my frontal light? If not astromically expensive I might go for it and try more night riding in the canyons...oh wait! Isnt THAT when startled deer and coyotes like to run out into the road? uhhh....no

[@kevinforsey]

I have read many reviews on the tracer, especially the press release of the gt+ in Sardinia , via Bennett’s insurance, which were fair but maybe too positive , so was good to hear some very fair scepticism. Ref to the seat, I agree not good, but from another perspective , and worse on the plus, as that has had work done on the seat, and that is it seems to throw you forward pushing you into the tank ! Is that just me or has any one else noticed ?

[@rockbyter2011]

I don't know why they didn't simply swap the lights around? The upper lights would make much better headlights and the lower ones far better cornering lights.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Good point. I don't see the reason for the lower ones being there in the first place.

[@Speedytrip]

Yamaha are notorious for bad seat designs. Those shorter will find the seat wide, the taller ones will find the slope in the seat annoying as hell...And I 100% agree with you, a good windscreen and seat should come standard, and they can then sell the crappy ones as an option. (9:09 pegs seem to be in the lower position there seems to be 2 holes above the bolts)

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yeah, this seems to be the basics of the basics yet they clearly do fail here. I don't like the strategy of installing crappy equipment just to offer a proper upgrade. Nah, it even sounds bad. Thanks for the hint on the foot pegs.

[@ToxicChillz]

For me these are good points, though keyless ignition for me isn't really an additional feature and could actually just get annoying, but that's only cause I'd be using the pannier system and top box all the time for touring

[@karlosh9286]

Yeah, I think keyless ignition is a completely pointless invention. I hate it on one of my cars , and one of my bikes. I'd pay to NOT have keyless ignition.

[@Bossie21]

my biggest thing with the tracer is that everything corodes so fast, suspension links, bolts, etc they are grey/white already after 8 months. Just terrible quality.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Sounds like British weather, doesn't it?

[@Bossie21]

@@VToldsMotoShow belgian weather, but that’s basicly the same 😂

[@Charlie-fc1mh]

V Told, you tell it like it is. That's why I am here. I'm thinking about getting the 2024 model tracer 9gt plus or maybe mt10. I recently sat on the mt10 (2023 model) and it seemed like a good fit for me. Sure hoping to see you review the 24 model tracer and the mt10 just to see what you think 👍

[@VToldsMotoShow]

MT-10 may indeed be coming to the channel as it seems interesting to me too. Let's hope it happens in 2024. Cheers!

[@JoelMoura]

#1 screen is perfecly fine for most of people, like me... Of you're very tall, which I believe, then no motorcycle fits you #2 yes, that engine issue is there, but you didn't explain the problem properly. It's when the rotation drops to stationary, it sometimes drops to much. Hope they will do a recall #3 the seat is not the best for manoeuvres, and is a bit hard but is more comfortable compared to the 900 GT. But I usually ride my motorcycle 99.9% of the time, and not drag it around with my legs... I don't use the inner thighs... #4 of you are a very tall guy, buy a tall motorcycle. But no motorcycle is tailored specific for you... But once again, it became way more comfortable then 900 #6 One light one is a deal breaker??? When I buy a motorcycle is to ride it, not to show of (exclusively) #7 plastics are cheap, because is not a Ducati/BMW/KTM 25k+ motorcycle I own Tracer 9 GT for 15k km and is the best Sport Tourer in the market (my opinion). I tested the Multistrada before...

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I believe that I've seen quite a few critical comments about the windscreen. Not a big issue as anyone can replace it with something better. As for the engine stalling, I think that somebody mentioned that there is a recall already. I'm close to being sure about that. Good story though. I actually don't know what the problem is technically speaking. Still, I think that it can be a very enjoyable bike overall.

[@jackt1400]

I think the stock windshield might be sutlitable for shorter riders, hence for taller riders, the deflector may be required. Therefore it is an option

[@VToldsMotoShow]

This likely almost always applies but it simply generates turbulences... well, almost everywhere around.

[@chrisoz4929]

I test rode one this week in Piaseczno after testing the Tiger 900 in town. So, the Tracer is a very good bike and the engine and quick shifter are superb. However, I felt a bit low on the bike and found the seat uncomfortable after 45 mins. There is a vibration at certain revs that I didn’t like, but worst of all is the dash. I found it difficult to read and over complex. I don’t think it’s for me. The GT+ which is coming later in the year solves the display problem, but the price increase quite a bit. This ride has made my mind up for me - I think 🤔

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yeah, the GT+ fixes the unpopular display but the current pricing is through the roof I think. Still, the seat on the GT may be replaced with something else or modified for some extra $$$. But then there's that Tiger 900. With a crazy dash too by the way ;)

[@chrisoz4929]

@@VToldsMotoShow I ordered a GS today. So that’s that then. I’m a boring old fart with a GS

[@Oscar-Lima-4]

⁠​⁠@@chrisoz4929 😂 yep that’s that then . GS is sound though

[@lorcanroche2987]

Test drove one recently. Superb engine. Great brakes. Nice chassis and good steering geometry. But at six foot one with long legs long arms the bike is not for me.

[@k1oor]

You should not complain about lights - I had CBR 600 F4i and currently owning 900GT - they both have the same design - one light for low beam and second one for high beam. Engine - I owned BMW F800GT - that was a biggest mistake I ever made. Imagine you just stopping in front of traffic lights, looking right and left admiring ladies passing by and without warning your engine dies. I had a small talk with mechanic servicing BMW bikes explaining him the situation and he sad: "buy japanese bike, they have better engines". BMW had a good engine in R1100 but the spoiled it in never bikes.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

This stalling issues are worrying but Tracer 9 isn't the only one. The same kept happening on Triumph Tiger 1200 and KTM 1290 Super Adventure where it actually died in the worst way possible so with a gear engages and when starting to accelerate. Software issues most likely - at least in Yamaha and Triumph as those two manufacturers are aware and allegedly keep fixing it.

[@Fernando90054]

Yes! Every nit pics pointed and traduced into pure facts. There are no perfect bikes though but these listed In the video are entirely true. I have a long time relation to Yamaha bikes since 1991, year that I bought my first Yamaha, a FJ1200. It was a excellent bike at the Time. And we expect that evolution was very promising…something went wrong on the way, because competition from other brands just overtook the front place in this evolution race. I think in design, comfort, electronics, safety and built quality. I had a Yamaha MT-01 the very first bike of the MT family and it was a strong well built machine a real muscle bike it shared a lot of influences from the R1 but with a very torquy mass two cilindres engine with 1675cm3 air cooled with the famous exup valve but with no electronic aids yet. And some years later it started to die on me when running, in moments Like when stopping in traffic at a red light. Do you understand the uncomfortable feeling of riding a bike with 260 kg , turning off just by refraining it when you come near a stop light. That’s scary, embarrassing and dangerous. I sold it and bought another Yamaha lately, a XSR 900 Abarth edition. Exceptional bike, no keyless of course ( it’s a Yamaha) but a monster of torque, very stable, well balanced and fun. The counter was the aggressive body position which became too much for the road or for a day to day use. After I had a BMW GS 1200 R, and I enter in a totally different world! That was the most difficult bike that I had to let go, because it was almost perfect. The counter was the fact that I never wanted to take it to off road trails so despite all the advantages I decided to change it for the 2021 BMW 1250 RT full extras. Man, this bike suits me for everything I need. Now I feel almost satisfied. When I want to fill the rush need I go out with my other bike, the KTM 1290 Super Duke GT. Finally, now I am fully served…maybe 😉✌️✌️✌️

[@VToldsMotoShow]

This was an enjoyable read and thanks for sharing. Yamaha's case is interesting and I remember the time when the MT-01 was launched. I actually was in love with the idea of it myself. A beast of a motorcycle with those exhaust cans incorporated into the design. It's a pity that it wasn't fully cooperating with you at some point. Those kids of moods should not be happening at all. Now, the switch into BMW's direction sounds like a natural way (funny to say that actually about any manufacturer) of how things go for many riders. Your current motorcycle garage is impressive and I'm very curious about the KTM. It's been catching my attention for quite some time now. Let's see what's next for you!

[@michaelironrider9443]

yes, engine and electronic suspension are the big pro's of this bike. The rest (look, display, connectivity, breaks, seat height etc) is between average and "meh" to my opinion and other reviews....

[@VToldsMotoShow]

So I guess it's about what's important to who when choosing a bike then. Still, it's not a premium manufacturer's product in the first place. However, this doesn't mean that it cannot have a good seat.

[@chrisoz4929]

I got back into biking last year, after a 20 year break. Bought a Kawasaki Versys 650 from Konstancin (happy with the dealer) and I'm looking for a bigger bike for next year. I'm torn between the Versys 1000 and the Tracer 9, so it has been great to see your reviews about the bike. If I go for the Yamaha, it will be the 2023 bike and there have been lots of changes; so happy they got rid of the split screen as I went to Liberty Motors in Piaseczno to look at the 2022 model and the screen put me off immediately. So I hope that you will be able to review the 2023 model and help me to make a decision. By the way, very naughty riding on Pulawska 🏍🤣

[@VToldsMotoShow]

So you mean the Tracer 9GT+ that's now having a more "approachable" display. The sheer number of changes vs 9GT is pretty impressive but it's mostly tech stuff and not really mechanical changes, so I believe it's very similar to ride to 9GT. I've made a comparison of these versions since there's quite a bit of confusion there and maybe you'll find it useful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faq5YpuKdtOsjsk And yo, Pulawska used to be a great, wide street at that time! ;) Cheers!

[@chrisoz4929]

@@VToldsMotoShow and then I saw the Tiger 900 GT Pro

[@cosef4491]

I already listed the reasons why I wouldn’t own or consider the Tracer 9GT or any other motorcycle currently made by Yamaha. I don’t believe Yamaha should be mentioned in the same breath as high end brands known to be premium. I am sure Yamaha makes good motorcycles but they do not generally attract the same consumer with the same disposable income. Anyone with enough disposable income to afford a motorcycle any motorcycle should count themselves fortunate and consider themselves apart of the motorcycle community. I’m just wondering if you review and compare any other motorcycles because all you’ve done recently is review the same S1000xr, Yamaha Tracer 9GT, the BMW GSs and the multi strata v4 over and over again.

[@VoyagingVoyager]

So in short, some like to spend more money for less short and long term reliability, some hate less ownership costs…and so on….at least you can tell others you own a premium…lol…bike…sorry meant premium brand bike….Dont believe me, just go to the forums for those so called premium brands, a lot of unhappy folks there.

[@wjo9352]

I do not entirely agree. Its true the overall design of the tracer is flawed. The cp3 engine however is one of the best in motorcycling, outperforming many far more expensive so called premium bikes. Just my humble opinion.

[@nemerkha]

@@VoyagingVoyager i moved from an R1200GSA to the T9GT. never looked back for several reasons…

[@VToldsMotoShow]

That's right that the target group may be different. Yet it's not as different as with cars where you very literally feel the differences everywhere. Sometimes it's hard to define and sometimes you can point at or even touch things that are very different in a premium product. In motorcycles it's not that simple yet the expectations are different when you purchase a BMW or a Ducati vs the rest. I've been focused on those motorcycles for the very same reason - I believe they're generally better and more enjoyable to ride and deal with than non-premium motorcycles. That's where most of the excitement is for me. Now this year, in 2022, once the snow is fully gone and temperatures become acceptable, I'm going to explore other brands and their motorcycles. Triumph, KTM, Honda, HD and Moto Guzzi are among those brands to make their appearance here. And there will be no mercy as well. Cheers!

[@maldridge7630]

...another thing; the switches are argonmically horrendous-a safety hazard. You will constantly press horn instead of turn signals if you are going with your reflexes. Additionally, why in the world would they place the high-low-beam/flasher switch in the most awkward spot for your thumb to acrobatically press it. It is most unnatural and places the rider in serious danger at those critical moments...it should be where Kawasaki Ninja places it; in the most logical place in the front by the index finger. Or did they design the switches for the most probable future generation whose fingers will be awkwardly shaped after a nuclear holocaust-radiation related genetic mutation? Pathetic planning indeed!

[@dougiequick1]

BTW main solution to headlight issue is to simply ride with high beam on in daylight which btw has a cool aspect in that you can click low beam on and then back and effectively "Wink" at other MCs rather than waving to them! Now obviously at night you don't want to run high beam in traffic but seriously no one is going to really notice you have one light out like they would with a car ....I think anyway. Another solution is to buy dual aftermarket auxillary lights that have both low and high beam and then rewire existing lights to be both off on low beam and only both some on with high beam...unfortunately the OEM lights are not the same physically so you can not simply replace the high beam on the left with a new low beam from the right otherwise I would do that (wired to together) and then auxillary lights would be high beams...anyway absolutely not a deal breaker just wierd and maybe Yamaha will fix for 2023? and hopefully fix can be bought for 21 22 also if not too expensive

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks for the input and the idea for a mod of the front lights as it could be really helpful if there would be anybody actually offering some conversion kits. Which I too think that won't happen. I also wouldn't expect that Yamaha fixed that - even though I hope in fact that they do. In the city, I'd ride with high beam on and yeah, this is much better in every single way and here also looks-wise. Cheers!

[@chupacabra7224]

I'm 50 now and been riding bike from 16 which it was honda CG125. God knows how many bikes i had in my life and because I'm on bike everyday i change bikes each year to avoid too much mileage on them for selling points. I don't know why never liked Yamaha so I never had one till my Triumph GT Pro( god i hate that bike)almost new chain snapped put 8000 pounds repair on my hand .I was looking around for another everyday bike and couldn't find anything I like,but the 9 GT keeps coming up in videos and research. So I thought I would buy this for a few months and see hopefully something good would come out for 2024.I didn't even test ride it just called the dealer and said want your bike. From the moment I sat on it I knew what I had missed at least from the day this bike was available on the market. Everything about it is just right for any mood any weather any day you want. The windscreen problem was solved with 20 pounds deflector from Amazon and the seat was fixed with a big sheep skin I have,folded under itself on front of seat and rest just from middle of the seat to edge of it comfortable and warm in uk miserable weather. 😊😊 I know definitely what my next bike is . 9GT plus 😊😊 I like your riding style though 😊😊

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks a lot for shedding more light on the Tracer and knowing how much you've been riding, it appears that there are strong compliments towards the 9 GT that need to be taken into account. I'm glad you also mentioned possible solutions to the windscreen and seat issues as this will be helpful indeed. As for the riding style - it's the bike's 'fault' that it encourages that. Not all of them do! :) All the best with your current and clearly future Tracers too!

[@seanflum8521]

Great video. I think your right about 2022 tracer 9 GT is junk. My Yamaha R3 2015. It never stalled out. I give it more throttle in first gear. Do you know win they are going to design new tracer 9 GT? Is BMW S 1000 XR 2022 Reliable? Does it need a valve job so many miles? My R3 need a valve job at 20,000 miles.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

The windshield and seat are junk here indeed. Wouldn't exactly say it about the rest but I didn't like it stalling like that. As I've heard - there's a recall now with it being the reason. No idea about any upcoming redesign. S1000XR seems to be doing well and I haven't heard of any particular common reliability issues.

[@marcmelis8584]

Thx for the review , i already read some others review's , but now i no what not to buy , because to make it good i have to spend a other 1000$ No thanks , i had a simelar experiance whit a bike long time ago and i sold it after 6 months , So the smart thing to do isssss THE GT+ for 2000$ more you have all the things you need . good seat , better dash , better windshield , and others .

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Do make sure that the windshield and the seat are actually good for you specifically as otherwise it might end up in you spending $3000 extra vs GT with additions. Technically you can sell the original seat and windshield or sell the aftermarket ones separately when selling the bike one day.

[@mickeypopa]

No. 10: cars have metal body and glass panels that protect the start button from weather and nosy kids, bikes do not. I too have it in my car and love it, I don't want it on my bike though.

[@hrmacdonald4471]

Always enjoy your videos...you made some very valid points and statements about the T9GT and gave me a few laughs with your humor, especially about the burnt out headlight...lol. Keep up the great work & stay safe!

[@insanbiasa8045]

Hi how about its frame? Is it tough? Because i saw frame crack video on tik tok.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I don't think that there are any public frame strength or durability tests out there. Anything can break though.

[@armandomateus5103]

So you found the front gives a feeling of vagueness when cornering? Strange, because everyone says it's actually planted!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I don’t know what everyone says and why but I also don’t know what you mean. When did I say something like that in the video?

[@armandomateus5103]

​@@VToldsMotoShow "it is sometimes hard to feel..." 10:35. Or wasn't what you meant to say? So know you have an extra info there: most owners on forums say it feels planted (that's what they say🤷🏻)

[@VToldsMotoShow]

It is sometimes hard to feel what exactly is going on with it. This means in this case that the bike won't make you understand where its limit is when it comes to leaning into corners as it's light and encouraging to do so.

[@laciludas2944]

Madstad windshield and Corbin seat solves it all . Than you have a superb motorcycle that goes fast, slow, long distance or short. Nothing comes close. That's all folks

[@VToldsMotoShow]

A Madstad fan here as well. If they make a windshield mount for a Tracer, I'd be willing to believe that it's a top solution indeed.

[@HappyGilmore321]

Windshields are different for every rider thats why they provide a different option, I know Im 3 inches shorter then yourself and have no issues.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Well, about this topic, I'm not exactly sure if the differences in rider's height aren't really, really huge. If there's buffeting, it covers a certain zone that I feel usually is pretty large and maybe the passenger might not feel it but I wonder what differences in rider's height there would have to be to be able to exit this zone behind the windshield. Usually the windshield here in a Tracer 9 is mentioned as problematic. But hey, if it works for you then that's great.

[@mickeypopa]

Ah yes, the 'tall people problems'. So sad makes you wanna cry. 😂 Tall/-er people have no idea how shitty both men and women can and will make you feel for being short. From being a target of 'harmless' jokes to straight up being undesirable by women. So next time you want to complain that your tall stature is causing you issues - don't. Remember: windshield can be replaced but short legs can't grow longer.

[@gerokatseros]

Points taken and since I don't have this bike i cannot disagree. But which bike that costs about the same money would you suggest that has the characteristics you mentioned?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Good question. I personally would be mostly looking at an adventure category as those types of taller bikes suit me better. Don't have to be [much] more expensive too. But that's my personal preference.

[@tempofugo168]

Hey, at 14:56 there was a wobble. Does it happen often on this bike ?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yes, there was a tiny bit but it looks more significant that it actually was and I wouldn't pay attention to it as it never was a problem during my time with the bike. It might've even been the movement of my hand when suddenly closing and opening the throttle. No worries then.

[@thomasfox381]

So true about the wide seat ,sat on it and I nearly broke my hips ,and I am 1.80m tall ,to painful

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Oh, that's extreme but I bet that we both felt the result of the same issue.

[@laurencesimon9657]

Im currently riding a 2021 Tracer 7, willing to upgrade to the Tracer 9 when I got my A license but tbh, the thing with the headlight caught me laughing xD The tracer 7 also has 2 LED lights like the Tracer 9 BUT both are on all the time and used for low and high beam...So I wonder why Yamaha couldnt do that on the Tracer 9

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Very good point! Damn them. Maybe they didn't try to save as much costs or implement risky ideas with the Tracer 7 then. Who knows what idea stands behind it.

[@laurencesimon9657]

@@VToldsMotoShow Yeah but also some points u mentioned about the T9 are the same for the T7, Im 1m87 and its hard for me to waddle around without spreading my legs into eternity & the stock windshield is really useless

[@mickeypopa]

Cutting cost, I think. One simple bulb per side instead of a more expensive, complicated dual beam bulb. Yes, it really comes down to that these days. 😂

[@robynmolle5842]

Great job on the video but can you find a better place to film that doesn’t have a trash dumpster in the background

[@VToldsMotoShow]

The trash dumpster took my spot without a warning. I tried to move it but failed. Hopefully there will be no more of those anywhere the bikes I review in the future. Thanks for feedback.

[@sergiuulici3908]

yamaha engine cp3 is 10/10. but the motorcycle sucks. dash tecnology is near to 0. in my case , that`s the main problem made me choose the xr900 over tracer. i love the sound of the cp3. but overall the bmw xr900 is the best. MHO.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Interesting, thanks for sharing your perspective. As for the dash, sometimes it may be enough for it to simply do what it's asked to do and stay invisible. On the other hand, I personally appreciated the graphics and an overall experience on a really big screen of BMW R1250RT 2021 and that made me realize that perhaps it doesn't need to be extremely fancy but if it's clean, crisp and with understandable layout, then it may bring some sweet benefits. So in the end I understand your point of view. BMW engineers seem to know how to do certain things. Cheers!

[@nietaki]

It's a bad take after a bad take in this video. If that's all the downsides you found of the motorcycle (one of them being "I stalled the engine once"), it sounds amazing.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

That's all I could come up with, so yeah, if that doesn't one, it indeed might be a no-brainer for them.

[@Maverick648]

What brand of chair is that??

[@VToldsMotoShow]

It's a Maserati GranTurismo electric office chair from Power Seats here: www.powerseats.eu

[@MrJohnwbaker]

mt~9 sp then after market ? Thank you for your time Sir.

[@MMilewski78]

Really? Did you ever had that situaton that someone pointed to the off lamp? I ride CBR 600 and it has exactly the same configuration. Never ever anyone approached me for that reason. I believe it is a very common setup in many other bikes.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I've never ridden anything with this lights setup other than the Tracer 9.

[@tomrandom7091]

I was thinking of getting one of these for everyday and go shopping stuff instead of a scooter. But i am not sure if Multistrada V2 or the Tracer 9GT.... Any thoughts?

[@ΚωνσταντίνοςΒασιλόπουλος-ι7ν]

if u have the money for Ducati why u keep wondering...

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I wish I could help and share my thoughts but Multistrada V2 seems to be mostly unavailable, so at the same time there's no way to really try one at the moment. But I wonder what the differences would be on the road. I'd expect the Multi V2 to feel more like an adventure bike. I mostly wonder if it would be more comfortable than Tracer 9.

[@dmano9]

I was going to get one to ride around Australia. I presently ride an Aprilia Tuono, but because of its poor range and potential problems finding parts, I’m looking at either the Tracer GT or the VStrom. I was moving more towards the Tracer because of its sporting ability - when the tour is over you can still take for a scratch around the twisties. Seems like we expect a lot from motorcycles. Back in the day there were fewer options and everyone made do with a standard motorcycle.

[@Alex-hr2df]

Oh please damage its image we don't care 😏 A GSA rider here. I tried the Tracer 9 GT and I don't know how / why on earth they compare it to GSA 🤦‍♂

[@VToldsMotoShow]

No idea too.

[@dukadizel1995]

Hi friend, What is the most forgiving, most beginner friendly and most drivers aids in this category?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I think that it's too tough of a question. And defining this category of bikes is pretty hard to me too actually.

[@kulter20]

Define the category. A or A2 or Sport-Touring or both? In the A category I would say the Tracer 900/9GT it pretty forgiving. In the A2/beginner I've got every good experiences with a Honda CB500X being fun and extremely forgiving.

[@hhyling8483]

tracer9 gt is my first bike , really easy , no problem

[@kevinrobb86]

Wouldnt matter to me if it was the best bike on the planet I just cant get used to the look of it

[@BaldKiwi117]

Fair enough

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yeah, that sounds like a bit of a bump on the road.

[@mohdkhairrul8520]

This bike for 1. asians (low height bike / seat & short wheel base) 2. for experience rider...usual with counter steer in geting the right lean angle... 3. when release your clutch without any throtles the bike start to go fwd...coz their maintain the eng profile of MT 09 engine...Master of Torque... 4. like other yamaha bike...more fancy than practicality...

[@VToldsMotoShow]

There's something about those points that makes me feel that they're quite true in fact.

[@maldridge7630]

3 reasons are totally a deal breaker for me and they reveal a sociopathic narcissistic mentality behind the design and packaging of the bike. -the windshield and uncomfortable seat issue is a problem on practically all yamaha's. Funny how they are ready to sell you proper windshield and saddle; that's screw the customer out of money mentality! -the headlight issue is the most despicable of them all because that too is a narcissistic self-centered choice on their part to cut cost! In principle, for these reasons it is enough to hate yamaha!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I get your point. I think that the windshield and seat issues could even be called an arrogant way of scamming us. I also really don't like this strategy as no one really benefits from it. I'd expect most riders to simply be unhappy with those two, get frustrated and naturally head towards aftermarket solutions. If Yamaha's don't work, why their accessory items should work, right? Logically it makes no sense. Also, first we'd all have to know that they've got those accessories available. So I don't expect Yamaha to earn much here. Instead they make people complain - like myself. The front light - nothing to add to how you summarized it.

[@danapintilioaiei6587]

I would add the 11th reason to avoid Yamaha Tracer 9: tickling noise from the chain cam. There is definitely a problem with the cam chain tensioner (hydraulic one) that cause an annoying noise from time to time. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about, being an Tracer 9 owner....for about one year and almost 6000 km...

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I agree that any weird noise in a vehicle can drive some people nuts. It would be my case but somehow I haven't heard this noise in the Tracer 9 GT that I was riding. Maybe too quiet of a helmet.

[@d0n_key]

I've owned a Tracer for 11 months now and ridden it over 11kkm and while I'm very sensitive to unsualy noises, I haven't heard anything weird from this bike yet. If I was you I'd get it sorted out with Yamaha before the warranty runs out.

[@majormassenspektrometer]

Never heard of them having a hydraulic tensioner. Any Tracer I know has one which is operated only by spring. And you will definitely hear a strange noise while pulling the clutch in... Check that noise too! Also if you check the cylinder head while the bike is running, you will hear ticking noises. Don't know where they come from! Check it out!

[@Neiljitsu]

Would you trade a 2014 bmw r1200gs adventure for this?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I personally wouldn't. I'm just this type of guy who would prefer an 8-year old Mercedes S-Class rather than a new A-Class. Same here and I'd stay with the GS. Unless you suddenly plan to change your riding style or conditions. Since you mentioned the Adventure, maybe riding in a very right city, it would makes sense but then I'd more likely just swap it for a regular R1200GS.

[@O-Nilsson]

Can't speak for this bike alone but ive had the 2015 version for 3 years now and it has some similarities. And Ive done over 45.000 kms on it. The tracer is clearly a budget sport tourer, no questions about that. And there are some flaws like the windshield and the seat might be a bit hard, footpegs might be a bit slippery etc and what not but it all comes down to every persons opinion and lenght, same as all other bikes :) And whats good about the accessories that comes with the bike is that you can make it suit you by having all the options. Cause its not gonna be perfect all stock. thats not gonna happen with any bike :) . Have a great weekend fellow riders!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Very reasonable view on the matter indeed. I do believe that a Tracer 9 can be a really individually adapted bike for many riders and tick all the boxes for them. The essentials are certainly a very solid base. Except for that single front light that I could not stand.

[@neilmillican670]

I had keyless ignition on a BMW. It was a pain to live with. Give me a key anyday

[@jcombs2266]

Fair points,,,,,👍

[@20cent]

All bike manufacturers sell comfort upgrades, not just add-on accessories...so they all admit that their stock components are not good enough? In a world such as the motorcycle world, where every single piece of components are available and affordable to replace (as many users do), the only things that matter on a bike are performance, weight, autonomy, riding position... who cares about an easy to fix windshield issue or a mirror shape? And yes, some elements look like not being on par with european bikes...but these are constantly being recalled or have flaws that are never fixed (KTM, Aprilia, some BMW...). Japanese bikes? Not so often. But I get it, you have to make the video longer I guess.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

What comfort upgrades do you have aside from a seat and windshield that are on a bike already? Do you replace a fuel tank, grips, handlebar, shock absorbers? No, you don't. I guess you just had to make the comment longer.

[@alteroar]

quite a good bike, probably one of the best for the price in this category - not best at anything, but simply very good at everything... However, i'm the one who once saw the bug with moustache stairing at me, and now i can't unsee it...

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

This is annoying. :)

[@VToldsMotoShow]

This pretty much sums it up!

[@MindMonkeyFTW]

5th point is probabily related to its tires. Those stock tires are really awful.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Maybe maybe - especially if they're new and very, very round. That is a possibility yet all bikes start their lives with new tires, so perhaps this one is simply more sensitive to it.

[@dougchaney6063]

I own a 2022 I can live with the seat and the windscreen my major gripe is with the shift lever which is the shortest I have ever seen on a motorcyle. My big foot is a struggle to even get under the lever and sadly it does not appear to be adustable due to the quickshifter rod assembly which apparently has to be adjusted to a precise length.. and if you simply attempt to rotate the top lever it will cause the bottom pivot to ram right into the damn kickstand saftey switch! This is all the result of Yamaha moving the location of the engine compared to previous generation For some reason they decided to totally relocate the entire shift lever in FRONT of the foot peg rather than behind it as previous maybe to keep from having a ridiculously long shift lever but now it is ridiculously tiny short ....very poor engineering IMHO and maybe a deal killer for those with larger feet...I have had to learn to upshift using the side of my boot against the shift lever's toe peg rather than just placing my foot under it as typical ...annoying everytime I think of it! Come on Yamaha! Seriously?? THAT was the best you could come up with?? REALLY????

[@Paul58069]

Yamaha NS10's ?

[@Ma6roshi23]

You know you dont get stuck with one bike for a lifetime, you wouldnt enjoy riding if you kept digging in downsides of everybike,

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Likely yes, that's why I believe that it may be crucial to know all that upfront.

[@Ma6roshi23]

@@VToldsMotoShow i only google for any recalls before buying

[@Kisciu1]

Przód dalej tak nurkuje jak w jedynce? Dla mnie to była dyskwalifikacja dla tego motocykla.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

A nie powiedziałbym, że nurkuje. Mając porównanie do kategorii turystycznych enduro, ten Tracer 9 tutaj, to nawet nie stał koło słowa "nurkować". Ale właśnie - to kwestia perspektywy.

[@verbummentis]

These are why, you buy Honda Nt1100...

[@michal6531]

Kazdy mówił, ze siedzenie jest za twarde. Dla mnie jest tylko w pierwszym kontakcie i to duze zaskoczenie na plus, potem jakims sposobem dopasowuje sie, bez problemu 2100km w trzy dni. Jestem chudy i kościsty, wolę takie niz zbyt miekkie jak w moim poprzednim moto.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Czasem kształt może się akurat okazać w sam raz, albo po prostu jednym to odpowiada, a innym nie. Ja sam wolę miękko, ale wtedy też kształt ma znaczenie, aby nie walczyć cały czas z utrzymaniem wygodnej pozycji.

[@vpower87]

100% totally agree with the sixth point...stupid design choice🤦

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yeah, that's a pity.

[@Jean-pierreVossen]

Ja motor heeft de neiging om stil te vallen . Bij het vertrekken . Mijn motor is al een paar keer uitgevallen zeer vervelend . Versnellingsbak is niet soepel . Schakeld niet zuiver .

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Bring it to the dealer, I think that there might've been a free of charge recall and a software fix. This is bad otherwise and dangerous in extreme cases.

[@Jean-pierreVossen]

Ik heb de recente versie van de software laten installeren. Nog altijd het zelfde probleem . Motor kan gewoon uitvallen op elk moment . Koud of warm

[@idcraw]

Turn on the high beam and screw the car guys

[@VToldsMotoShow]

ALWAYS. At least it's got two lamps on then.

[@sokoldecani8257]

How tall are you?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I'm 183 cm tall or 6'0".

[@GooogleGoglee]

Hope that Nike do not watch this video LoL

[@sdfglkjhdfkjdhldskfj]

The seat is crap. The immobiliser is easily bypassed when stolen.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Tried the seat - I confirm. Haven't tried to steal - cannot confirm.

[@Stevespeed57]

11. The ugly exhaust

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Maybe that's why they've hidden it, no?

[@sandwaves5642]

It's an ugly cartoon figure - 👺👺👹👹🤖🤖 that stares at u all the time 🤮🤮 Great review !!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@VToldsMotoShow]

That's a good description too ;). Thanks and all the best!

[@dougiequick1]

I'm just guessing you are a dyed in the wool BMW dude who just will never warm up to Japanese bikes all the way....just a guess though...any truth there at all or just my imagination maybe I am overly influenced by euro accent?? Anyway you ruined this model for me now hope you are proud of yourself! But I can't justify 24k out the door for a new 1000XR so now I am stuck looking at used 2016?-2019 XRs but another reviewer or 2 is ruining that model for me too....maybe will eventually find a good deal on a used 2020 or newer XR that actually has the options that the Traeer comes stock with for a decent (more affordable) price

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I hope that this helps: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4WkppuqfJZobsU Now it’s first of all to weigh the pros and cons and then test ride it yourself. Different things matter differently to different riders. Also, note that manufacturers sometimes improve their bikes every year, including recalls etc. S1000XR will not be better in all circumstances, because why would it be? In the city I’d likely choose the Tracer 9 like 8 out of 10 times if I didn’t care about am having a BMW badge and a “1000” next to it. Tracer is nicer at lower speeds due to its superior handling. Please check the linked video to get the full view.

[@runner.75]

Son excusas ridículas. Por favor un poco de más criterio

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Right in front of you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3XQf6GirduHbJI and kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4WkppuqfJZobsU

[@maldridge7630]

...and when will you change those irritating camouflage pants?? Were you expecting a surprise takeover from Putin? That danger has been averted; he went after Ukraine! If you can afford Rolls-Royce chairs, surely you can afford another pair of pants 🤣😁🤣

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I see you've had some serious flow that day. Those are best pants ever. I actually got new ones also in black around the time of your comment but after over 10 years the manufacturer of those beauties messed something up with their sizes and they're either way too small or way too big for me. So I tried and now it's on them for not providing the solution ;). I'll keep investigating other brands whenever I get the chance.

[@gaspring1]

Dude, you're way too big for this girl's bike !!!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Maybe that was an issue but I'm not unusually built for an European/American. But in Asia - so where the Tracer comes from - we could be treated like real-life giants.