10 Things We've Learned Since Quitting Kratom

Kratom is a tea brewed from a leaf that grows in southeast Asia. The Kratom plant has many effects on the body and mind, and is often a great way to reduce pain and reduce other opiate use. Garre and Ezra talk about their experiences after quitting drinking Kratom and how they've realized life is more exciting after stopping Kratom use. We discuss 10 things we've realized since quitting the substance. You too can quit if you put your mind to it- it gets better every day!

[@felixf4378]

I never knew how emotionally unstable Kratom made me until I got off it. I used to get incredibly angry and sad at work because my ex gf ruined my life. So during my breaks I would take some Kratom and feel better. But then an hour and a half in I would get incredibly angry and depressed again. I thought "see this is why I need the Kratom. It keeps the horrible depression away." However once I got off Kratom, after a few weeks, I noticed that I wouldn't get as angry or depressed. I still felt bad but i didn't go from feel good to incredibly angry. It was a much more stable mood.

[@patrickshaughnessuhaummmww2295]

This video just helped me so much. I’m so disappointed in how much I allowed kratum to overtake in the past 6 months. I long for that veil to be lifted like you guys speak of and it just motivates me and gives me hope to hear you speak. I’m doing it this week: i bought a bunch of supplements and I’m not working for 2 weeks. I’m sober from everything else so I can’t wait to feel that peace again. Thank you guys !

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

I’m so happy this video helped you. The veil will lift and you will get settled and clear, just give it time. You can do this. I believe in you. You will feel peace again. Drink lots of water, breathe and get out in nature. It helps so much. 💜GL

[@discernment4theSoul]

You hang in there. I’m day 23 cold turkey and after day 5 things start getting a little easier. Insomnia is now my biggest enemy, along with some restless leg, however it is improving.

[@bobbycecere1037]

Good for you man, I'm right there with you, stepping down my Kratom consumption at the moment. Just as a point of Interest, what supplements are you taking to help with withdrawal?

[@bulletpoint728]

@@bobbycecere1037 I heard magnesium is great, taking it now.

[@brandonpatching468]

I equate kratom to a very small hook, hydrocodone a lot bigger, heroin even bigger, and Fent is just pure death. Kratom works on the same receptors as opiates. That why the potentiaters are exactly the same, caffeine, grapefruit juice, etc. I somehow got clean after 20 years of opiate abuse, but I am finding myself taking kratom and getting the same feeling that hooked me 20 years ago. While the withdrawals are MUCH lighter, they are still there. It’s all so familiar and I need to watch my step

[@christysmith5211]

get off while you can. i came. to kratom from a 20 year heavy opiate addiction. it helped me get off. but i have been stuck on Kratom nearly 5 years. i’m tapering and getting off of it now. it’s ridiculous how similar it is. might be worse on the body and memory.. check out Joey Talks and get yourself free

[@feliciaw934]

Take tolerance breaks and you'll be fine

[@brianpulley8652]

I must be the luckiest person in the world because i used kratom for almost 4 years everyday taking up to 8g a day and then i saw a video on how it was technically chemically castrateing some men and you'd have to watch that video on Cortex labs channel but I also noticed I had developed anxiety and mild depression while using kratom and i quit cold turkey with no withdrawals at all...ive been told I don't have an addictive personality...and I started taking 500mg of L-tyrosine daily and its done wonders.

[@bkerr1992]

Quitting Kratom now and you guys said it right on the dot. Worst part was the emotional imbalance. I was getting mad for no reason, cutting people out of my life but then would instantly regret it a day or two later. The scary thing is that opiates do the same thing to you. Without opiates, or even Promethazine / Codiene get you very angry without it. Thinking the binding of the kratom to the opiate receptors is what causes this. Withdrawls are no where near opiates but very very uncomforatble still

[@lucasschick8423]

100% on your topics about not feeling as connected. I feel like before ever taking it I was so absolutely connected with nature and humans and now I just feel like I don’t look at nature the same way and things are more surface level. It’s helped me learn how to be an adult and make money and things but I’m lacking in the wonder and child like energy/connection I had before. Quitting now

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Fantastic description and story thank you

[@waveygravey30]

Thx for video, ill take kratom withdrawls over pharmaceutical withdrawls if i had to choose, the struggle is real🥴

[@growingwealth101]

Good advice. Thank you! I had the same wild depression/over emotional feeling coming off Kratom. I'm still tapering off. 😅

[@silkekarenina9233]

You give me hope, thanks

[@skunkbreath6031]

Good for both of you! Quitting is hard but definitely worth it. Best of luck to you both ☘️

[@Icebergslim333]

Great video. I definitely relate to those withdrawals as I've quit before but started back. About to now for good this time after watching this video. I miss FEELING things.

[@starlenathomason2151]

Great video, Did you guys just quit cold turkey? or what was your taper routine if any?

[@tutiens7943]

Hi guys. I like your frank assessment about Kratom effect on your body & mind. I plant Kratom in Kalimantan Indonesia (Borneo). It was NOT meant for recreation use, my advice is always: If you don't have problem, don't start looking for it Why do I farm it then? In Borneo, there is aboriginal Dayak tribe who will not consume modern medicine because they are considered poison, as they are manufactured in the lab (true). So those tribe use Kratom to treat injury - they use poison arrows & darts to hunt for food. They also use it to treat gum disease (they don't brush teeth with Colgate). Kratom is also a potent painkillers. Many city folks who suffer after surgery, chemotherapy, are using Kratom. I guess, Kratom is the natural & organic solution. But I am glad to hear both of you off Kratom. GBU.

[@ryannorman8898]

Thanks for this video, I’m struggling really bad with kratom. It’s my fault I blame myself but I’ve been addicted to this stuff for 5 years. The worst part is the mental part. My head is always going in circles, and I’m extremely grumpy and agitated all the time.

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

I’ve had experiences where kratom impacted my anger and stress. When you find other healthy coping skills that can replace the rituals around drinking or taking kratom, that’s the first step. Spending time in nature, doing something creative, or even traveling can distract you from those addictive patterns. Once you feel ready, take that step!

[@ryannorman8898]

@@thedeepbreathe2461 thank you, I honestly think The brain fog is and mental issues are getting worse the longer I take it

[@HalfwayJac]

Go easy on yourself, yeah? Addiction happens. You’re not a shameful person because of it.

[@ryannorman8898]

@@HalfwayJac I’m just sick of being grumpy all the time. I’m ready to quit.

[@jjakfamily]

@@ryannorman8898 Agmatine sulfate and other pontentiators will help lower your dose. You can also order items such as stem and vein kratom which is way weaker but helps tremendously with withdrawal symptoms. I too have felt the longer I take kratom the worse my mental health is getting. It is a process but it can be quit without having to put yourself through weeks of debilitating withdrawals. You just have to keep your end goal at the forefront of your mind everyday as you begin to lower your dose. In order to reach a comfortable spot where you say hey I don't need this shit anymore. I was at 80 to 90 grams a day 6 months ago and am now down to just 15 to 20 grams daily. I'm almost there but am already leaps and bounds ahead of where I was 6 months ago. Good Luck

[@blueeyes4233]

completely relate to this video! I used Kratom to deal with a very stressful event in my life (abusive ex courts so many financially things intermingled & so much more it would take a youtube series to talk about) & chronic back pain. I gave up alcohol - it’ll be 2 years in Jan. I experienced some of the same symptoms you experienced when you stopped. I am a little over 2 weeks off of it - so very new. I have no withdrawal symptoms but feel tired! I just want my old energetic self back. My main reasons for stopping Kratom was the digestive issues & I felt stupid after awhile lol. Like I wasn’t thinking correctly or creatively. I still think about it but trying to develop healthier habits in place of it to keep me off it. Appetite is back full force lol. Back pain isn’t so bad as I thought it was going to be. I also noticed I am laughing a lot more like those hood ‘hard belly laughs’ I don’t hate the drug but for me it’s not worth the side effects. Great Video.

[@johnB-fj8eq]

Yes!! Digestive issues, feeling stupid! I notice it's hard finding words when in conversations and I used to be an exceptional speller and find it hard to spell certain words now!!! The body temp fluctuation is terrible!! The longer you use it's gets worse!

[@robmacrocrypto5806]

Waiting for the video what I have learned when I quit drinking coffee. Or what I have learned since I quit eating junk food. Thank you ...

[@offthechainfitness]

It’s better to discuss addiction itself because every bad experience I’ve heard so far are from those who have abused Kratom along with a history of abuse. One guy reported 50 grams per day, thats abuse and so Kratom shouldn’t be framed in any way.

[@Kid_Ikaris]

You can get addicted to Kratom. Yeah sure taking 50 grams is crazy and it shouldn't be taken everyday. But yeah. It's potentially addictive. You can and should frame it that way. Doesn't mean you or anyone else shouldn't take it if they decide that's what's best for them. Everyone who takes Kratom should be warned though.

[@offthechainfitness]

@@Kid_Ikaris those who get addicted to Kratom have abused it and have a history of abuse. The stories are typical - I started with 3 grams and ended up taking 25+ grams, therefore, the subject matter should be abuse and not blaming Kratom.

[@auniversalmind1658]

@@offthechainfitness I agree 💯. I'm an addict, have been one for 30 years now. Been a hard life. I've been taking kratom for over 6 years. I'm at 15gs dosses at 3-4 times a day. It's hell I assure you. I will have to go through rehab to stop at this point. But then again I have never been to a rehab center so I don't know what I would expect. However it's either kratom or it would have been prescription pain pills and other hard substances. I've never been a drinker nor do I care for alcohol so I'm very thankful in that aspect. I come from a long family history of alcoholics and drug abusers. I'm not blaming my family for my problems just a little backstory. But I know that I am in full control of what I do and how I turn out. Some of us just don't have the tools or the discipline to help ourselves sometimes..

[@offthechainfitness]

@@auniversalmind1658 thanks for sharing, recovery will give you great tips to live by. You sound great! All the best!

[@andytutt7746]

50 grams a day thats clearly a problem.

[@davidhunt5682]

Pleas tell me more about quitting. Did you do Cold Turkey, taper method, and any supplements or home remedies used for discomfort whilst detoxing. thank you-- David

[@Billwithopps]

Guys I quite a year long kratom addiction cold turkey, the first 5 days feel like literal heroin withdrawal, even though heroin withdrawal is way worse than kratom withdrawal it still feels shitty, anyway there is light at the end of the tunnel at day 6 no kratom I was able to finally take a good shit in the longest time ever, and the muscle aches and pain started gradually subsiding over 2 weeks and I never felt better being clean, it feels so good to be sober and not feel like shit from withdrawal or having to rely on this substance,anyone can quite, you just need to discipline yourself and stick to your goal why u want to quit, embrace the suck, and you have nothing to worry about

[@sbwantstoknow]

Love your T-shirts!!! Also it would be helpful to share with us how much you took and for how long. Was it daily? Thank you for sharing your story, I don’t know any Kratom users other than me. The majority of users who have come forward to talk about their use on social media platforms have little in common with me in lifestyle and/or age but the two of you seemed instantly relatable. I’m a 62 year old former business owner who lived San Francisco Bay Area while raising my daughter and am currently traveling the world with my husband.

[@prestonvandunk324]

Thx for info

[@ajmwhiteside]

Its good to here an honest practical report on this. All this type of stuff comes with a price, its pretty obvious but those who are struggling, remember withdrawals wont last forever and they wont kill you so if being on Kratom sucks stop taking it and deal with a few days pain. I used it to help me get short term relief from depression caused by acute post withdrawal from opiates, it really helped but I approached with extreme caution so please do the same.....

[@MySkinnydip]

I took 3 teaspoons of it 3 times a day for 6 months for foot pain. I had to undergo another surgery on my foot so I’m on Tramadol right now. One thing I hated about Kratom is waking up to pee! My doctor knew I was on Kratom and I had my kidneys checked and other blood work. After a few days of not taking it I stopped waking up with the urge.

[@rawchucksucksatwow]

I'm having serious constipation with Kratom. I'm just going to have to work my way down to quit. This video has been very helpful. Thanks.

[@captainahab9174]

That's been my main side effect also, along with headaches when I first wake up

[@jennifersetareh8009]

Did you find anything that helped with it?

[@captainahab9174]

More water intake made it a little better. My dose is probably a little high at 20g spread between am and afternoon. I probably should cut it down some

[@TheRawChuck]

@@captainahab9174 Thanks, right now I'm taking Metamucil and it is really helping out.

[@xmateinc]

If you have constipation from Kratom, you’re definitely taking way too much.

[@chrisbraden3510]

Thank you you have inspired me to want to quit kratom you hit it right on the nail

[@GalCharlotte]

It would have been interesting to hear why you liked it and why you took it and for what purpose.

[@CharlesLouisRosario]

Kudos!! ❤️

[@fratermunky4336]

I was drinking 2-3 shots of extract(2 doses per bottle) for about a year, so an average of about 28-35 doses a week. It really motivated me and was like a social lubricant. Plus it felt good in general. I stopped cold turkey, it's day 5 and I'm still having trouble sleeping(hypnic jerks). This week has been ROUGH.. I had no idea the withdrawal symptoms would be so bad. Bad anxiety, mood swings and a twitchy feeling.. I'm not knocking kratom but I was abusing it and decided it was time to let it go. I would recommend stepping down your doses before quitting tho, probably easier that way.

[@discernment4theSoul]

So how are you feeling after a few weeks?

[@Squirrel-zq6oe]

Hey! Hopefully your journey is continuing. I got screwed also because I didn't know there would be withdrawals, though in retrospect I guess maybe I should expect that. But I didn't have any experience other than with Pharmaceuticals, and I thought that because it's a plant that it would be different. The longest I've gone is a day and a half out of the last two years where I didn't drink kratom. My face was red, my legs and arms felt kind of like they had electricity going through them. I was just generally physically uncomfortable and mentally just kind of cloudy and out of it. When I first ever took Kratom, I didn't like the fact that it kind of made me feel at the end of the day like I had been out of my mind. It felt like it disconnected me from my thoughts and I didn't like that, but as time has gone on I began to use it for exactly that reason, so it makes it very hard coming back to reality with a torrent of thoughts and emotions that I'm used to not having to deal with.

[@cheesybreadwinner2418]

@@Squirrel-zq6oe yup spot on comparing to me. The longest I went without it was exactly 15 hours, I know because I timed myself in the last year. But now my intestines are SOOO screwewd up and my weight went from 175-180 to 162 lbs and it shows. Tomorrow is the day I stop daily kratom use.

[@Squirrel-zq6oe]

@@cheesybreadwinner2418 I'm interested to hear about your experience 🙏

[@Squirrel-zq6oe]

@@cheesybreadwinner2418 your username is 👌 btw lol

[@richperkins5192]

Thanks for the video guys! I definitely need to quit. It’s been a few years of daily use and I found myself extremely irritable. I know this is the main cause

[@tcdavis66]

I see a few comments comparing Kratom to opioids, I’ve been taking Kratom almost 2 years . And my opinion is the withdrawal is close enough to opioids that we really should be getting off this plant. Some parts of opioid withdrawal are worse but I feel it’s very personal and with some people the withdrawal is an equal struggle. I’ve been tapering, trying other drugs, and stoping days I can for about a year. My latest craze is taking like 2 mg Thurs morning, methadone . pouring out the Kratom another 2 of methadone Fri morning. It takes my mind of Kratom, lol and everything else, but just gives me the confidence to kick the Kratom train . But ! I’m still dabbling so idk. Gonna try agin this week and see if I can stay clean .

[@Stephen85]

Methadone has horrific withdrawals, a thousand times worse than Kratom.

[@drubertoe3423]

I stick with 2 grams when I wake up 2 before the gym and 2 for sleep. Can go with or without it. It's a game changer for the gym though. My cardio is endless and I love that

[@lucasvarela9632]

Have u gone 48 hours without it?

[@xmateinc]

@@lucasvarela9632 I take a table spoon in the morning for a nice pick me up, and don’t use it on the weekends since I don’t need the energy. I go 48 hours without Kratom every week. Some people are just abusing it to get high.

[@livinginoklahomacityofficial]

@@lucasvarela9632 THIS... everyone who says "I can go without it no problem" or "I've been taking it for years, no issues"... literally have never tried to quit. No shit you "feel fine", you're fucking high.

[@iamthefiremanjj]

I had 3 grams only a day for a month and had no withdrawals also had no libido etc

[@drubertoe3423]

@@livinginoklahomacityofficial somebody call the wambulance

[@Hbm1923]

thank you guys for being honest about kratom! too many people are scared to talk about kratom in a real and honest way. kratom is addictive. doesn’t mean it can’t help people. but it is addictive.

[@jenvaher]

Hey guys, thanks so much for this video. I have been doing kratom since before Covid September 2019 and I am on day four of not having any. I have been having it every night 2 tablespoons Indo kratom in tea with milk (to not stain my teeth, but it has anyway and that upsets me a lot) - I call it sludge because it’s disgusting but I would drink it because it would make me feel so calm. I tried to quit it a few times in the past but always broke down and bought another big bag of Kratom. It is helpful to hear about the withdrawal because I feel like a cranky bitch I’m so irritable and I miss the high of the relaxation of Kratom. I really really really really miss it it’s hard. But I don’t want to be addicted to it anymore. I don’t want to be addicted to anything for one thing. I am sober don’t drink and don’t do drugs but this thing I thought was natural and like you said, it is insidious. I want to power through entity five and hopefully start to feel better. But I feel so lethargic and disgusting and disgusted. I have no energy. I’m really depressed and I used to be a happy person. So I don’t know if it’s Covid or Kratom. But I just am not gonna buy anymore. I don’t want to do it anymore. It’s a disgusting habit the way I have to drink that sludge. I would dread it but I would do it like a slave because it made me feel so good. And I couldn’t drink more than 2 tablespoons or I would feel nauseous. So no way I could over abuse it. Because it would make me sick. Thank you for listening to me rant. And just get this out into the ether. By the way, I have been calling it Cray dumb. I’ve been pronouncing it wrong this whole time.

[@SkvnkSlvps]

There’s no right way to pronounce anything really. We’re humans lol. Have you tried the toss n wash method?

[@jenvaher]

@@SkvnkSlvps I just looked that up because I didn’t know what it meant. I have not tried that but maybe I will. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@chris73brown]

@@jenvaher Yep. As the other commentator said theres no wrong way to say it. I feel like the way u say it is the proper way if u live in usa. Like tons of words, it depends on the region of the world youre in that differs the pronunciation. I say it proudly the same way u do. I personally think its silly when people try to pronounce it the way other countries say it. If u live in america then say it in american fashion. If everyone said all words the way they say them in the country where it originated then youll realize that tons of words youve said your whole life arent said the way u say them. So, w all that being said, youre sayin the way it should be said if live in usa. Also, if u dont like your sludge drink or the taste of it u should def try tnw. It bypasses all that. Straight to stomach. Thx

[@iamthefiremanjj]

How are you now brother / sister ?

[@23VMB]

Pooping is great off the k. I can’t believe how much I was clogging myself. It’s not normal not to poop for 3-4 days while eating normal meals.

[@ransu7327]

I love kratom, it helps me a lot. But, you must respect it and use it wisely!!!!!! And drinking alcohol at same time is BIG NO NO!!!!!!

[@tinataylor3172]

Thank you so much for this video I am struggling with stopping Craigslist I've been on it five and a half years now and I take about two full teaspoons three times a day sometimes a little more depending on what I'm going through but I need help I don't want to be drinking this green sludge anymore but I don't know what to do with my depression that's why I started taking it but now it's not working as well as it used to and I've tried to stop taking it but I got this cold sweats the shakes the body pains and extreme fatigue so I'm looking for something that will help me through the withdrawals but just listening to you made me feel like there's other people out there at the same problem and they can beat it and I'm hoping so can I thank you so much ❤️🕊️

[@tinataylor3172]

I said kratom not Craigslist oh my gosh

[@Spiritsong1111]

It never good to overdo it, I’ve learned to keep my doses low, I take only about 3 grams and only once a day. I use a different type each time so my effects are always positive. It just makes my evening enjoyable and the boring task like cooking and cleaning easier. I find it’s healthier than alcohol. To each their own.

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Good point even doing this for me I experienced some hangover like effects the next day, lethargic and dissociated almost

[@Spiritsong1111]

@@iamthefiremanjj you might want to try happy hippo kratom. They are the only vendor I trust. The hangover is due to pesticides and other contaminants. You won’t find any of that in HH.

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Question for you guys did you regular experience fatigue and feeling burnt out on this stuff ?

[@laurenmoldovan9384]

Did anyone else have it change the way they look? If so did your complexion get better after qui?

[@braulsg2008]

I used drugs for 8 years I started use kratom help me stop doing the other drugs. And i am good to 2years of using kratom. I have noticed that I get paranoid when I am around people, I start to have bad bad thoughts. I put myself down, and I been wanting to quit. Do you have any suggestions ideas on how I should quit. How much I should do and start cutting it down. I mean I work 9-10 hours a day 5 to 6 days a week. Please help thanks. Cause I want to be social, I just met this girl and well I want to be normal and not scare her away. I want to get to know her and have a healthy life and relationship, friendship. Thanks

[@scottparone7894]

You guys thank you for the video me and two other dudes are like 4 year veterans. And we acknowledge there’s a problem and we want to stop we were thinking about supplementing with certain things I already take magnesium and work out five days a week. My buddy has issues with his legs burning after just 24 hours and his irritation and mood is so bad it’s hard for him to be around his wife do you have any suggestions?

[@christysmith5211]

kava kava, stem and vein and Delta 8 check out Joey Talks to get of kratom

[@bucobrews9513]

I also live in the bay area and my withdrawal symptoms were crazy. I thought I had covid. The exhaustion was the worst. I had a runny nose, restless leg syndrome, insomnia & the exhaustion mentioned above. It helped me to stop drinking alcohol but like you I have an addictive personality (also drink fast lol). Thanks for this video. Maybe if I run into you we can have a 🐚

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

Yeah I’m still really tired. My emotional symptoms are almost gone. I had digestive issues too. I’m almost 100% over withdrawal symptoms. Good for you for quitting. It’s a big deal :) ✨GL

[@nbamarc2525]

I quit for three months and thought about it every day craving it

[@marciano3258]

I work full time all day from 7am to 9pm is there anyway I can wing off still wit no time to go through it

[@MaloSantana]

Awesome

[@mraereed]

Thank you for the video. I'm in bad shape. I have no other substance abuse issues. I started taking Kratom for pain relief after a brain injury and many seizures caused me to have falls and injuries to my back. I just thought it was the best thing ever and I would never need pain medication again. I realize now that this is also a pain medication, and I am abusing it. I take about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp three times a day. I had gone two days without it and wanted to go out of town without it. I ended up staying in the hotel room crying the entire time having an emotional breakdown and causing it another argument with my husband over my Kratom use. I realize then that I couldn't do a cold turkey. I ordered 4 oz and I'm trying to wean off with that. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to go anywhere I don't want to be touched I don't want to talk... I hate it. I hate me on it. 😔

[@discernment4theSoul]

Exercise your ass off! Everyday even when you feel like shit. Eat healthy foods. And do your best to stay busy. Do things that stimulate dopamine in the brain.

[@Jimmy94411]

Less than a teaspoon a day? Isn’t that just a microdose that does nothing?!?!?

[@heatherreich2687]

So I’ve been taking Kratom for probably five years this past year since my mother has moved and I have become a daily user. I am finishing the stack of Kratom and then I am detoxing myself I am having the same feeling that I just don’t feel as connected with my own mind I’m actually starting to get foggy I feel as though sometimes I’m searching for a word to say and I can’t figure out what fucking word I’m trying to say is and I’m pretty sure it’s the Kratom. Thankyou you for your story. Ps im a Kratom chugger.

[@lucasvarela9632]

Good luck. Got off 30 grams then I got a really bad flu and got back on thankfully this time won’t be as hard

[@stainz5714]

I quit after 4 years daily use...the restless leg syndrome was the worst symptom for me which led to sleepless nights......anyone quitting stick with it the symptoms subside after a few days and once the sleep comes back it's a nothingburger

[@cameronjordan9350]

I love this video! Kratom served its purpose for me but at this point is totally plaguing my life. I look loaded everyday from it, I am always irritable and my connection to nature and people is off. I have a very addictive personality. I took 2 weeks off of work so that I can quit. I am ready in my soul. October 1st let's go! Wish me luck. I have been taking it for a long time and I get horrific withdrawals. Kratom is very addictive and people need to be aware of that.

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

The first step is really wanting this change for yourself. It sounds like you’re already on your path to kicking this out of your life. If you need any support reach out on here! One of our major withdrawal symptoms was emotional, and a sadness that would come from nowhere. After a few weeks of staying off of kratom that totally subsided. Excited for your journey Cameron!

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

Good luck! You’ve got this! I believe in you! Drink lots of water, breathe and get out in nature. It really helped us. ✨GL

[@tracyrobillard7431]

Omg I feel this comment SO much! Used Kratom to quit opiate pills and now I am struggling with a HUGE habit. Hopefully I will get the motivation to quit but not quite there yet. Best of luck to you 💐🙏

[@cameronjordan9350]

@@tracyrobillard7431 Feel free to reach out for support. I will definitely need it when quitting I am terrified.😆 I want it bad enough though

[@BC-qb7tx]

@@cameronjordan9350 I am on day 7 no kratom. Sleep is hard. Fatigue is unreal. Depression is felt. But the acute withdrawal stopped a few days ago. Day 4 was worse than day 3 for some reason. Now I hope for and await the slow return to normal, whatever that means after 6 years. I forgot. I hope I like it. I wish you success.

[@Zach-ls1if]

Im 38, started taking Kratom three years ago. I’ve never once struggled with not using a substance, and I’ve used a lot of different drugs since I was 12.

[@livinginoklahomacityofficial]

How often do you take it, and how much? And more importantly, have you tried to stop taking it for any amount of time. Unless you are not human, without opioid receptors... you will experience withdrawal, if taking enough daily for long enough.

[@knockoffsolomons2972]

I make sure there's no kratom in my car on my work Monday that way I get one day off of it a week as long as it's not around me I don't think about it but if it's in my car and I drive to work with it on my breaks I will definitely use it

[@Psshhhdawgg]

Honestly though I've started my own business. I've dropped from 210lbs to 170lbs. I run 10-15 miles a week. I keep doubling my net sales in business each year. My only issue is I'm very irritated and mean to everyone for any little thing. Can anyone help with the irritation feeling. Also absolutely no alcohol anymore

[@dipper888bp]

Did you reset your sobriety date over Kratom?

[@lucasschick8423]

Could you all do another update?

[@Windshieldchoke]

I take about 2 grams of Kratom every two hours for the last two years, I’ve lost sight of how bad things got and im 22 years old now experiencing prostate problems, I believe getting off will fix all of this, I’ve lived my life two hours at a time, it’s gotta stop I need strength to cut. Idk what to do but I will do this, God is with me I hope we can get through this together, men beware, it can cause prostate issues when taken so frequently Edit: 6 days later tonight and I have completely switched strains and went to capsule form and take 2 grams every 5-6 hours, significant improvement it was hell but things are easier!

[@deehiggdh]

What strain were you using and what stain did you swap to. I've started the white and I experience gastro intestinal problems at high dose 8 grams. I dropped it to 3 and it has subsided.

[@Windshieldchoke]

@@deehiggdh was using green, 2-3 grams every 2 hours for 2 years straight, caused me prostate problems at 22 and a never ending uti with testicular pain that didn’t go away for 6 months, also thinning hair, I since switched to gold Bali which is a red strain and a completely different brand of kratom all together, every 4-6 hours my body has been in recovery, my tolerance is at the lowest in over 2 years and my hair has thickened.

[@jeremyhayes5124]

Ive done kratom for five years straight,no break's! For most of those five years I took Mass amounts but for the past two weeks I've started only taking Two scoops a day!so that being said My quit date is September 8th do you think me cutting down before quitting will help My withdrawal symptoms?

[@jasonday8334]

Hey Jeremy, I admit to taking Kratom irresponsibly, at one point I was taking 4tbsp of Red Vein powder 4-6 times a day. For close to a year. I had no idea there was a withdrawal, until one night I woke up with RLS. It hit me that I was withdrawing. So I decided to quit CT, and within 12hours the withdrawal was so severe, I could not get comfortable no matter what I did, I was miserable. I took it to help manage PTSD, from two combat tours in Iraq, and along with severe back pain, it worked wonderfully for that. So now I’ve become an expert on what to do, to get off of it, but do note that I’m only going off of my own experience, and listening to others experience. If you are taking a high amount each day and want to quit, I would highly develop a plan to taper off of it. Today I’m on day 5 of not taking Kratom leaf. I suggest looking into Stem and Vein. There’s a company online called “Relax Remedy” that’s where I found S&V, it’s affordable, I purchased two bags of 100g. I started three weeks ago to taper. The first thing I did was I did a 24 hour fast from it, then cut my serving in half, while maintaining my frequency. That 24 hours was brutal but it gave me a sense of how severe the withdrawal was, but when I took half of the serving I normally take, I was able to stabilize back to normal. Every 3-4 days I would lower my serving by a 1/4 tsp. Stem and Vein is the by product of the plant, it’s has minimal amounts of the green leaf, it still provides the same effects as the leaf, but it’s not as potent, and the withdrawal from it is not as severe, there still is some withdrawal. It was a week ago I finally had my serving down to 3tsp of the leaf. Once I received the S&V I was able to make my servings 50/50 part S&V part leaf, then every three days I would take less of the leaf upping the amount of S&V, and today day 5 I’m off of the leaf, without any major withdrawal. I’m down to 3/4tsp of S&V I take a serving in the morning and try to stretch out the frequency every 6 hours I’ll take a serving. Stay hydrated, take vitamin C, Agmatine Sulfate is a good supplement to take, black seed oil I have heard is another good one to take, recently I’ve heard Grapefruit juice is good, the Agmatine, Grapefruit juice and Black seed oil, are considered potentiators. Try to get some daily exercise in even if it’s walking, try to eat as healthy as possible, anything to support good immune health. Most of all be good to yourself, it’s a slow journey, after 5 years of use that’s quite a habit to break, but with a solid plan and support from friends and family you can do it. Let me know if I can offer you any more advice.

[@jasonday8334]

kzbin.infoy65-VoBjhNA?feature=share I’ve learned a lot from Joey, he even has a journal on how to use Kratom responsibly.

[@jeremyhayes5124]

@@jasonday8334 thank you so much 💪💯❤️

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

This is Ezra. Garre and I both quit cold turkey, and our intake was roughly 15 grams a day. It was a struggle at first, but eased up over time. After those first two weeks there was noticeable improvement in our mental and physical health, and after that 30 day mark my depression like symptoms were gone

[@jasonday8334]

@@thedeepbreathe2461 that’s awesome good job on your recovery!! I tried CT after taking 14grams 4-6 times a day for almost a year, CT was not an option for me. I put together a taper plan, and am utilizing Stem and Vein, I’m now on day 5 of no leaf and doing well, minimal withdrawal, next step is to taper down off of the S&V and quit CT this coming Monday. I have a new respect for Kratom, and will continue to use only for emergency’s instead of daily use. Thank you for the video, I’m not far from you guys here in Wauchula, I was able to check out a Kava Kratom bar in Tampa definitely an interesting place, but not for me.

[@GalCharlotte]

I never have heard of drinking Kratom. I’ve heard of tossing it like a shot or mixing in light juice. It tastes horrible. How did you drink it? Did you only do it socially or at home too? A little background would have been helpful. I briefly scrolled through the vids and didn’t find anything. And could she elaborate on the not wanting to eat part. Thanks

[@jjakfamily]

They just mix it with fruit juice with generally a pretty heavy dose 10-20 grams per drink. It's more like a sludge than a drink

[@DD-eight]

I mix it with OJ

[@hoosierdaddy_2092]

I mix it with Nesquik and it's almost like you can't taste it. Also I'm taking between 8-12grams a drink 2 or 3 times a day. I mix it all in like a protein shaker and drink it up. Kratom makes you not want to eat in fear of having a full tummy and not fully feeling your dose or just straight up no appetite.

[@jleigh7792]

I don't like how I feel and think when im off of kratom.

[@jimbof20able]

Just got back from St Pete

[@xmateinc]

Most of the people I see that had problems with Kratom, are abusing it. Kratom has its purposes, for me I drink a tablespoons worth before my retail job for the energy, but I never use it on the weekends when I don’t have to deal with people. The high from Kratom, when you abuse it, isnt even that good.

[@jonpaturo2361]

I was a 3+ year user and quit 4 mos ago. Almost zero affect on me.

[@Eric31297]

We need more videos on kratom

[@mraereed]

Check out Psyched substance. The guy was addicted to kratom and is now off of it. He does videos about just about every drug out there. I found it really helpful in realizing I did have a problem with Kratom.

[@Eric31297]

Thank u just watched a video on him

[@Eric31297]

I'm taking kratom because it helped me get off hydrocodone pills for pain and it helps

[@xmateinc]

I don’t like getting high on Kratom, I take a tablespoon in the morning for a nice pick me up, since coffee gives me terrible anxiety. I can make a 100 gram bag last a month.

[@vintagebleachedblonde4322]

Please tell me how did you get off??

[@zachgoodrich9509]

Man I had to get on suboxone after slow,long taper, gabapentin and clonidine. Then my schomach couldn’t handle it and it felt like battery acid every time so I got on suboxone and feel a fuck of a lot better…. Still feel like compleate dog shit and get multiple panick attacks a day since quiting 70-80 gpd on top of full spec extracts. I wanted to die because I felt the same on and withdrawling, like shit.., hopefully this gets better I don’t know wtf I am now since it gave me confedence and other things

[@mnunya5614]

Stuff is awful once the honeymoon period is over, it turns on us. I'm 2 month CT and still have some paws. Stay off this crap!

[@bekahboop]

I am wanting to quit Kratom and I’m worried about the withdrawal

[@forhonor2k]

did you guys ever experience night twitching that won't let you sleep in your arms if so what did you do to help that

[@cameronjordan9350]

Man the restless leg syndrome is one of the worst symptoms. Exercise and stretching even though it is so hard to do. Just stick it out it will go away.

[@forhonor2k]

@@cameronjordan9350 it's not my legs and I work out everyday it's my arms thats twitching for some reason

[@cameronjordan9350]

@@forhonor2k oh sheesh. Have no clue about that one. Sorry budd

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

A close friend of ours had restless leg and twitching symptoms for about 2 weeks after quitting. It does let up after some time. You got this!

[@discernment4theSoul]

Take a really hot bath with epsom salt, then immediately just in a cold shower. Drink valerian root tea before you go to bed. This will help lessen the restless leg. If you must, you can take gabapentin or primapexole prescription from your doctor.

[@dharma5774]

The withdrawals was horrendous also

[@MikeHunt90731]

Kratom saves lives! Peoples big mistakes are abusing at high doses. Less is more. Take breaks and you will be fine.

[@jamesnolen3934]

I’m a trauma nurse, and we have trauma patients that are everyday users. We are unable to get their pain under control with narcotics while they are withdrawing from kratom in the hospital.

[@thedeepbreathe2461]

Wow! That’s so unfortunate. We’ve experienced an increase of physical as well since quitting. It’s a great feeling though to not need to drink this every day. It’s liberating!

[@cameronjordan9350]

Yeah it creates a crazy strong cross tolerance. I won't even feel 10mg percocet if I take it. It really is pretty much a strong opiate. I am about to quit I have a plan in place and took 2 weeks off work for it. I am sick of this plan. I am irritable all the damn time.

[@lucyk2371]

Are you serious? This can't be true. I've had worse withdrawals from caffeine. It takes 1 to 2 days to get off of and I think it should remain legal. However, if you have an addictive personality just stay away from it.

[@cameronjordan9350]

@@lucyk2371 no it gives serious withdrawal I guess you just don't take enough... It is just like an opiate don't be in denial. I think it should stay legal too. I get withdrawal just as bad as quitting percocet. Don't let the kratom community tell you there is no withdrawal. It does give a cross tolerance I know from experience.

[@sunshine9993]

I was worried about that because I got hit by a car and was in the icu for my injuries but no, my pain was happily controlled and I’ve been a heavy kratom user for 7 years.

[@Psshhhdawgg]

Does kratom make anyone angry and mean?

[@hoosierdaddy_2092]

Yes, very irritable. This is the poor mans opiate.

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Does anyone just feel tired all the time on Kratom

[@ricknowak4582]

Okay I just made a comment regarding your usage. The lady just mentioned ten the twenty gpd. Which isn't a whole lot really.

[@hales6547]

Been tapering off a 40 GPD habit of 3 years. Im down to 18 GPD already. Did a quick and painful taper so far, slowed if down so i can continue to work. PAWs out of the ass, depressed/irritated, i had lost 10lbs and looked skeletal. I am a 98lbs (when healthy ) girl at 93lbs right mow, slowly gaining back. N ever abused alcohol much or anything besides weed of psychadelics. I suffer IBS, kratom helps this. But kills my appetite to point i only ate 1x a day. I also chug my 5 gram bottles. Its disgusting. I wake up every day with horribly restless legs. First week was awful, evening out a bit emotionally, noe. My hair has lost a lot of thickness, too. Tired eyes and skin. Which is already so much brighter.

[@lucasvarela9632]

Get it over with. I had stopped a 30 gpd habit. Took me 6 months. Went down 10 grams fairly quickly. It’s funny the hardest part was jumping off completely off .5 gpd. I still felt it too. Recommending new people to start on a spoon or 2 grams is counterproductive.

[@Fruitloop30]

It is such a dangerous drug honestly. It’s nice to use now and then but it’s so hard to quit. The withdraws of discomfort and loss of appetite are intense. Not to mention how much it has ruined my face. I look like I’m 30 at only 20 years old. My eye circles are insane BECAUSE of using it everyday for so long

[@christysmith5211]

kava is a great way to get over kratom. it takes the withdrawals away

[@kathyshepherd3235]

more is not better

[@bowieoliver555]

Addictive personality right here. As soon as I like something I go hard. I'm like that with coffee, food, make up. Pretty much anything. I got into extract after taking reg powder for a yr. I've been taking extract for over 2yrs now. I'm trying to go back to reg powder then step down. A lot of it is probably in my head. I've never felt withdrawal bc it's legal and I've always had it. There's a fine line. Like I love and hate it. I don't blame kratom at all. I blame myself. Being an addict I should have known and got this under control quicker. I just let it go. Maxed credit cards, borrowed from everyone and spent almost ever $ of my checks on it. It helps in a lot of ways so it's hard to weigh out pros and cons. I know that the $36 a day extract isn't possible but I don't know about nothing. Guess I'll find out. Gotta at least try.

[@elison27]

you will find your way......

[@arisikum23]

❤❤❤

[@giovannitrentalange2822]

Screw kratom! I just quit my 3 year addiction to it, 8 months ago and have never felt better since getting over the hump after 6 months of paws, and I am so glad I quit!

[@giovannitrentalange2822]

It also appears that you guys are in the same area as me, as I used to go to grassroots sometimes

[@Starfish2145]

Didn’t know what it was but starting drinking it??? 🤦‍♀️

[@dirtbikeryzz]

Ive never sipped it, don't like the taste. I down it

[@jcal0482]

congrats!!.. we need to regulate this poison

[@dmill5665]

coffee helps with the withdrawal

[@coldshot5555]

You can't expect Kratom to fix all your pain and depression issues...like YOU GUYS...try only using it for 3 days at a time then take 3 days off...You will never get strung out!

[@derailedfreighttrain]

Sorry, I had to stop the video at “a few months ago…“.. i’ve done kratom off and on for years at a time- i’ve come off it three times, and the withdrawal is definitely real.. but to do a video about withdrawing after only doing it for a couple months to me really sends the wrong message and realistically most people will not have to deal with much withdrawal after a only a couple months… js

[@bobonestone1807]

How did y'all make your kratom

[@gagelink2457]

Krah-tim nor kray-tem like most people say. Where's it's made it's pronounced krah-tom

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Where you guys getting emotionally numb on this stuff? Almost dissociated ? No ones replying ... irritability too

[@ricknowak4582]

I'm getting angry for no reason at all. I hate eating. I am very intolerant on k r a t o m. I just want to dose and chill. I'm doing twenty eight g p d.

[@JeremyPezzeca]

Thanks for thanks for sharing. You give me hope I've been taking 35 grams a day divided into six doses for almost 8 years. I've been wanting to reduce my dosages for the last 2 years and I just haven't. I definitely relate to being emotionally unbalanced. I've been crying everyday of my life for the last 3 years and I thought it was just cuz I'm sensitive and so into with energy but listen to you I believe it's the kratom and I really need to get serious about tapering down because it's really affected my life it made me antisocial. It's funny when I first started taking kratom it may be very so simple and I loved it because of an introvert but now it does the opposite it makes me very antisocial and it's really affected the quality of my life because I have no social life and I have no girlfriend. It went really blows is Emma overall great guy that has lots to offer and I attract a lot of women but because of this addiction I don't talk to or open up to any of them and it's made me suicidal at times. I just had a three day weekend off of work it was the perfect opportunity to just lay around and feel like crap and taper down but I didn't do it. I definitely need support on this one if I don't buy anymore I can't take it so I'm going to figure this out

[@MVargic]

Interesting, Kratom has made me far more emotionally stable and less sad than previously.

[@chayarubin7991]

@@MVargic i find it strange when someone is putting their heart out there and speaking their truth, that someone else comes along and says well im good, sucks for u. really insensitive

[@bob-pr8ye]

I feel less emotional on it..... Nothing gets to me........... Can't take whites..... Can't take reds...... Can't take yellow...... Only greens....!! Bali , not the others .. Sleep like a baby

[@MrFaridNazmi]

Problemmmmm

[@ssorcm415]

My 30 year old son died from toxicity of kratom and a few beers. The stuff is so dangerous.

[@Firegoesboom]

I'm so sorry for your loss but he definitely didn't die from kratom

[@ssorcm415]

@@Firegoesboom So you are a medical examiner? You work in labs that test? You know nothing. Two labs tested.

[@MikeJones-fp9cb]

Wow really ??? No other drugs was in his system ? How much Kratom was he taking .I’m so sorry about your loss .

[@ssorcm415]

@@MikeJones-fp9cb He had 20 grams over 3 hours. I'm told from the kava bar where he would purchased that can be a common amount of usage. I don't know.

[@josephfarrier3978]

@@ssorcm415 3 grams maybe 6 is good

[@bobonestone1807]

Lol I drink about 1oz a day

[@stunnaman9]

They say kratom wierd

[@frankparish4180]

Ah so he was the addict and he let her go down the slope… lame bro. I’ve been on this shit for years and would NEVER let a loved one get on this shit. It’s only for addicts and is a lesser of the evils out there. I can look at dude and tell he is way more dependent.

[@discernment4theSoul]

That stuff is poison. Stay away from it. I took it for awhile and had pretty awful withdrawals.

[@cameronjordan9350]

Not poison you just abused it. But yes it is very addictive and the withdrawal is horrific.

[@discernment4theSoul]

@@cameronjordan9350 it’s completely poison, no matter what dosage your taking. I’m off of it for good. You must be addicted to it, which is why your defending it. Trust me it’s not worth it, no matter how little your taking.

[@aaroningram9741]

Yup

[@getmeouttatennessee4473]

And the video creators liked a comment calling it poison? Yikes.

[@stacielivinthedream8510]

It bothers me that you guys are saying it wrong! Lol😂🥴😜😡