10 Worst Defences Directors Had For Bad Movie Moments

[@TheNiceness]

No for the flash they have no excuse. It's 2023 and they had 10 years and a big budget

[@MrZhiBMe]

Too much money spent on PR because of Erza Miller

[@vapoet]

It showed us why they couldn't just swap out Ezra through a deep fake. Like the "Super stache" in Justice League, they literally did not have the talent to pull it off.

[@selfconscience]

That director should be fired. He’s supposed to be the director for Gunn’s Batman. If he still is after this abomination of a movie, no one would wanna see that shit

[@jamesboice2763]

he directed IT and Mama which both featured questionable reliance on dodgy CGI. maybe he just can't handle a big budget effects heavy film

[@prezmil4282]

*Huge budget

[@BR-jw7pm]

In Spielberg’s defense, it sounded like he at least acknowledged the failure of the fridge scene and admitted he screwed up rather than deflect blame

[@Revelwoodie]

Yeah, that didn't read like a defense. It sounded more like a confession.

[@davidmcmaster2083]

I love those that say it's just ridiculous, not believable. The entire series is ridiculous. The fridge bit is ridiculous but the bit in Indy 3 where a bridge appears simply cuz Indy 'believes,' uh, that ain't ridiculous. Or how about the spirits in the Ark melting off the Nazi's face. Always loved the fridge bit cuz of the insane nature of it, and the way Harrison plays it. Just a huge crackup. Best moment in any Indy flick.

[@vinceely2906]

Plus it makes everyone forget about the bloody awful vine swinging Mutt and CGI monkeys scene

[@BR-jw7pm]

@@vinceely2906 while that scene IS bad, it at least has SOME believability to it unlike the fridge scene which just breaks all suspension of disbelief

[@madonnasbutthole9674]

I saw that movie in a packed theater where people were actually sitting on the floor and standing in the doors. I'd never seen a theater that stuffed before. By the time the film was ending, the room was mostly empty with entire rows with just one person in them. I'd never seen a walk out like that, either.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Keep in mind that Sam Raimi stopped carrying about how SPIDER-MAN 3 was gonna turn out because he was no longer in control after AVI ARAD forced him to include Venom for the sake of toys sales It was visible how his passion for making this movie was significantly reduced

[@alexbauer5285]

HD ho c I⁷

[@sarahprice659]

I have to say, Roland Emmerich’s explanation was the best of the bunch 😂 “I was trying to get myself fired” 😂

[@RM2011ish]

If it's any consolation, the cartoon version was pretty awesome.

[@B10eProductions]

You would have figured that BATMAN, THE GREATEST DETECTIVE ON EARTH, would have known about Clark and his family before fighting him, given that he knew his identity

[@BadBrucey]

What the heck are you talking about? Batman didn't know Superman was Clark Kent. Clark Kent wears glasses, Superman doesn't. Don't tell me you can recognize people when they wear glasses. No one can. 🤓

[@B10eProductions]

@@BadBrucey To be completely honest, I didn’t even consider that

[@WhatTheFirstAidSpray]

Dude, what TF are you on about? Clark Kent is a mild-mannered reporter, Superman is a superhero, they're totally different people! Next thing you're gonna tell me Peter Parker is Spiderman, when everyone knows Peter is just the only person who takes his pictures so they can't be the same person 🙄

[@RonanMathieson]

​@@B10eProductions It's the context around the name. Knowing Supermans mom's name is Martha is different to hearing "Save Martha". Plus Batman is about to kill Superman and his last words are him trying to save his mother. It changes his whole perspective of Superman and he realises they are the same. I'm sure Batman probably knew Clarks mom's name but the way it was used is what ultimately made the difference

[@Kta8548i]

Batman didn’t know Superman’s identity, he didn’t even think Superman had a secret identity another life or even a mother since he saw him as just a god, the Martha scene is literally what made him realize he was wrong, literally what the scene is about!!

[@gutsdozer]

The Flash absolutely did NOT look "bad on purpose". A friend of mine was on the VFX team and had talked about what a mess it was for months. They constantly micromanaged everything, changed major things last minute, called everyone back for months off after reshoots, etc. Saying it was on purpose is an outright lie.

[@lord_egg]

Nice to see the VFX artists join the writer's strike. Especially after all the shit they were put through for this film.

[@M3PH11]

it's also an obvious lie.

[@TheJ_G]

It was on purpose, sort of. Just not the “on purpose” that makes it better. Ha. They purposely broke the vfx team and leaned into unfinished work to cut losses and underfund their vfx team. They did that on purpose - Technically speaking.

[@Blunderman-rl1hc]

It's like Tommy Wiseau claiming that "The Room" was purposefully made to be a comedy, while everyone else who worked on the film maintained that it was an awful mess of a movie.

[@quantonica5348]

As a 12 year old watching Star Wars it was completely obvious Han shot first and it was clearly in order to protect himself from a threat. I loved it and didn't think of him in any other way than being the street smart scoundrel and law breaker that he is being involved with others like him. I do remember thinking that I would have done the same thing.

[@ryanmills892]

I haven't seen The Flash (and never will) but those CGI babies actually look worse than the CGI Baby in Twilight's Breaking Dawn.

[@Grigoris_]

At least that movie was pretty fun all things considered.

[@Tazymandius]

The baby from Ally McBeal was better than what I just witnessed from the flash! And that's like twenty years old!

[@AndreyKrichevsky]

I never recommend people to not watch a movie. I think even bad movies should be watched once to see for yourself if you might like it despite it's low quality. Don't watch The Flash...

[@teamtim87]

Halloween Ends could've worked had they incorporated Corey into the storyline in earlier films. Not necessarily make him a marquee addition, but sprinkle him here and there so they establish him better. Instead they misled the public and made most of the final film about him.

[@gkroll8467]

Still was woke garbage

[@fernrob2006]

you people use that term for everything, yet you have no idea what it means, just makes you sound stupid

[@weasle5022]

Nope, would of worked if Michael was the main baddy and Corey joined. Such a boring film and a disapointing end to an allright trilogy. Rob Zombies still the best one though

[@wilcee238]

@gkroll8467 cool story lady

[@teamtim87]

@@gkroll8467 Lol

[@AndreyKrichevsky]

The Martha scene in Batman v Superman was definitely a bad execution of a good idea, but i don't think the idea was that Batman realizes Superman is not just an alien but a person with parents and friends. The idea i think was that Batman forgets himself throughout the movie and slowly becomes more and more violent, to the point where he's about to become a straight up murderer, but hearing his own mother's name reminds him why he became Batman - to stop murderers, and that shakes him out of his rage.

[@Kta8548i]

It’s both

[@SKYROAMER]

The namedropping is cringe af. There's no reason for superman to suddenly say his mom's name. He could've just said "save my mother" and it wouldn't diminish batman's reaction. In fact, I think it's gonna be more powerful because 1) it clashes with batman's situation as an orphan. There's a guy begging for him to save his mother, how could he say no and make another one an orphan too? And 2) it makes batman realize that superman has a human side, because he has a mother.

[@AndreyKrichevsky]

@@SKYROAMER Like i said, bad execution. But really the mother is not the point. Superman being human is not the point. The point is Batman seeing that he's about to become the thing he dedicated his life to fighting against.

[@snarkyguy2657]

I saw SpiderMan 3 back when it came out in the theaters, & everyone audibly laughed at Cringe Parker's scenes. Even then everyone took it to be humorous.

[@bobross1829]

Yes, I thought the same thing. Now you can argue that although intended to be very funny, it wasn't, I never knew of anyone who did not get that cringe Peter was 100% intended to be funny.

[@Grigoris_]

I think the scene is self explanatory, people make fun of everything and nitpick when they don't like a film. I don't see anyone complaining about "Raindrops Keep Fallin on my Head"...

[@dude37]

I thought it was done perfectly. Peter is a nerdy dorky character. So the way he was acting is the way someone like that would think someone cool would act.

[@thornescapes7707]

"Everyone" took it to be humorous is a vast exaggeration. When it came out, many many people found it painfully cringe. I was wincing so hard that I nearly hurt myself. I absolutely loved the first two, but the third one was just painful. Did absolutely everyone find it cringe at the time? Of course not. But many people did, including me.

[@Grigoris_]

@@thornescapes7707 That's to be expected, because the movie doesn't take Peter at this point seriously, so in my book the movie did its job well

[@DarkmanPoe]

I don't know. Me and all my friends were in hysterics over Peter's emo antics in "Spider-Man 3"...and a lot of the audience we saw it with was laughing, too. I really don't see how it's that different from the "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head" sequence from "Spider-Man 2," which everyone seemed to love.

[@Grigoris_]

It's not, plus Sam Raimi always played with off putting, cheesy scenes. People only make fun of it because they don't like Spider-Man 3, which despite how overwhelming it is, it's pretty underrated in my book.

[@mordaciousfilms]

Yeah, I agree... I thought the emo, jazzy Peter stuff was funny. I've never taken issue with that. Sam Raimi is a comedic director, he's known for silly stuff. I'm not offended by any goofiness in any of his Spider Man films. They beat the by-numbers superhero stuff pumped out every 2 months these days.

[@kevwwong]

I take Raimi's comments to mean that the scene was meant to be funny in a weird or absurd sense as opposed to being laugh-out-loud funny. I mean a random dance sequence in the middle of a superhero movie is certainly a Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot moment. But Emo Peter also came off as quite cringey, and I'm not sure Raimi intended for that. Maybe a little cringe, but not that much.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@Grigoris_ They started to hate it because of loads and loads of behind the scenes dramas that were revealed. Specifically the reveal that there was never supposed to be any Venom. That Avi Arad put a gun on Raimi's head to put Venom. And as a result the true evil The Vulture disappeared from the script

[@Grigoris_]

That was revealed way after the film came out so, no. Plus the general audience doesn't care about studio politics, etc.

[@bjg8638]

The Japanese call the 98 monster Zilla. He's in Godzilla Final Wars. They made him with horrible CGI, and Godzilla defeats him in like 2 seconds lmao

[@SuperLocrian]

As MatPat recently pointed out - those old fridges couldn't be opened from the inside, so Indy would have likely died from suffication trapped inside the fridge.😅

[@katherineheasley6196]

There was a Very Special Episode of Punky Brewster about that back in the day. Gen X knew.

[@NotAFanOfHandles]

@@katherineheasley6196 Oh gosh, I'm a millennial and I remember that episode.

[@robgronotte1]

I thought it popped open when it hit the ground.

[@ItsGamingFancy]

​@@robgronotte1no it sits there for a while and you hear a click and the door opens and he falls out

[@robgronotte1]

@@ItsGamingFancy Hmm, ok. I still think if you are ok with the idea that the fridge allowed him to survive a nuclear explosion, it's not that crazy to believe it was damaged enough to allow him to get out.

[@leventebardossy5962]

For Lucas about Greedo shooting first, I recommend him re-read the original novel version of A New Hope. It not only mentions Han shooting him without hesitation, it even says that a few smarter witnesses understood how idiotic Greedo was not to care about Han's hand movements.

[@CrazyManwich]

The book was written after the movie after George Lucas wrote the screen play And started pre production of the movie. George hired Foster to write a tie in novel and foster on his own added details George did not have in the original story.

[@hellothisis9893]

@@CrazyManwichthis guy wrote this as if the ideas for Star Wars didn’t originate from George Lucas lmao

[@kalleb92]

Ask much as I hated the spiderman 3 dance at the time, I now love it and am so glad we got it. It's become such a spiderman inside joke/meme in the best ways.

[@heygerald]

Still traumatized by the microwave baby scene in the Flash

[@5Ci0N]

I'm just traumatized by The Flash in general

[@garrettwhite5943]

The Martha scene legit is the lynchpin of BvS. It's just handled terribly. It's not about 'Martha'. It's about Batman realizing Clark is in there, that he has a human connection and isn't just a monster. It's handled in such a dumb way that I honestly blame nobody for focusing on the name Martha and not getting anything out of the scene beyond that.

[@tedhaulley9885]

The Onion’s AV Club used to have a segment “Commentary Tracks of the Damned” where they talked about what directors (and others) had to say on DVD commentary tracks of bad movies. Some were candid about things going wrong and why, others basically doubled down defending their work.

[@pixxelwizzard]

Nuking the Fridge wasn't Pushing the Envelope, it was Jumping the Shark

[@LOLrigole]

Got a feeling the Flash director misunderstood the criticism (whether on purpose to dodge it or not I can’t tell). I feel the trouble wasn’t the „watery“ distortion effects and weird texture filter on top of it all, the truly horrifying choice was bad CGI babies, dogs, people etc. that plunged you knee-deep into the uncanny valley (or rather abyss). It doesn’t matter what filters you put on top, the dead-eyed animated babies were just hard to ignore. No disrespect to the doubtlessly overworked and underpaid cgi artists, but humans are notoriously hard to get right, especially babies. Either go for even stronger stylisation during „Flash vision“ or use actual babies for the faces (that are comfortably lying on a green plinth, obviously not being tossed around 😂).

[@iainjames03]

The thing with Tenet is that if they abandoned the whole concept of not being able to breathe properly while in inversion - the main reason given for characters having to wear breathing masks which messed up the dialogue - no-one would have really cared. It wouldn't have been enough to override the suspension of disbelief in a film full of much more mind-bending premises. I appreciate it was a visual indicator of being inverted - but there could have been other ways to show this.

[@ArcherSuh4721]

Someone should break it to Matthew Vaughn that the "interior" shot like the one in The Golden Circle had been done decades before in Look Who's Talking? Twice, even. And most everyone found both times to be hilarious instead of distasteful... and that was a family film! Lol!

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Cant never own up to a bad product huh?😅😅😅😅😅

[@timevans6369]

What?😯

[@itsatrap1017]

That’s Bully Maguire to you!

[@draygoon69]

I disagree with 2 of these. I thought Toby Maguire was hilarious in that scene. Although I didn't see it as him being bad. I saw it as the awkward nerd has too much confidence and thinks he's cool. It's supposed to be a little cringy. And Batman vs Superman I liked how it played out. The entire movie Batman seemed to have lost his way. He was killing and being more brutal. He even approached the fight with Superman with a one of us dies tonight attitude. He needed something to snap him back and see what he'd become.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

You may regret saying the Tobey part because Avi Arad was making Raimi put a character he despised and discard a better evil. Almost as if Raimi had a knife at his neck

[@daviejay]

In defense of Sam He hated the Venom character, and probably sabotaged the film himself to stop doing it. 4:43

[@Grigoris_]

That's a wild theory. No, I don't think that a respectable filmmaker like Sam Raimi would sabotage his own picture which stars his childhood hero. Eddie Brock was introduced in the comics way later Raimi was reading Spidey, so he wasn't that familiar with him and didn't understand him. Plus Avi Arad convinced him to insert Venom way after he completed his own script.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@@Grigoris_ Now Avi Arad is about to trash Kraven the Hunter and yet SONY REFUSES TO FIRE HIM???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY????

[@Grigoris_]

Calm your tits. Avi Arad is a powerful producer and he can't be fired just cause. It doesn't work like that. Plus he's not the only one making decisions.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

​@@Grigoris_Then explain why Amazing 2 was a pure unadulterated trash at this instant

[@JamesBussey-t5j]

So the CGI in the Flash was bad on purpose because the Flash sees things in different shades and colors? Calling BS on that. The guy's power is super speed! Maybe he would have a different perspective on oh I don't know..... speed and movement!!! But what do I know? Apparently superspeed makes you see things and vinyl and rubber

[@88COR88]

George Lucas is lying. "It's his movie, he can do whatever he wants" true, but it WAS NOT that way when the movie release. Period. His attempts to gaslight the fandom is pathetic. If I remember correctly, to make it miss Han the shot from Greedo's gun doesn't even come straight out of the barrel. As history, and subsequent movies, shows many of the best things about Star Wars were in spite of Lucas, not because of him. IMO every edit he made to the original product made it worse.

[@Revelwoodie]

100% true. George Lucas is Star Wars' abusive father. It wouldn't exist without him, true. But the further away he is from home, the better for everyone. Especially dialogue. Good lord, that man can NOT write a line of dialogue. It sounds like 8 year old boys narrating their action figures. "You will now be destroyed by my awesome power!" "No, YOU will be destroyed!" Crash...bang...giggle.

[@sonicslv6132]

I like A New Hope best among Star Wars movies. When my friend said he got the extended Blu Ray version and if we want to watch it, or course I say yes (this is before I heard how bad Lucas "true vision" is). Dear god, I fell asleep even before they leave Tatooine.

[@bobross1829]

Very true. If he just would have said, "you know, looking back on it I did not want to make Han a cold blooded murderer and maybe did not think about it back then and wanted to correct it", that at least would be defensible.

[@w1ndgeneral226]

What about the emperor's conversation with Vader in episode 5? I thought that was an improvement.

[@CameronHuff]

It also makes Han's return at the Battle of Yavin that much surprising. Throughout the movie we saw he only cared about himself and that was it. He leaves even though the Rebels could use him in the fight. When it looks like all hope is lost, he returns and shows he's not a cold blooded killer and saves Luke. Making Greedo shoot first ruins all of that.

[@shinzero0271]

Rewatching the first two Kingsmen films, I realized that Eggsy is just the worst. The guy fails his way to success simply because of plot armor and gets his friends and allies killed by being very inattentive. What's sad is that he never did pass the test to become a Kingsmen member. He just got in through process of elimination. Then managed to get the revived organization destroyed and all his friends killed because he had a date. He gets the girl here killed too by bragging about their encounter to her cyborg villain boyfriend. The sad thing is that this 'internal tracking device' sequence is still pretty tame when it comes to adapting work from Mark Miller. The guy seems to just have some questionable taste when it comes to dealing with female characters, or sex in general, particularly in his original work.

[@AlexReynard]

I don't think that Mark Millar has any particular problem with women. It's just that women are human, and Mark Millar is a horrible, horrible soulless misanthrope.

[@mack1305]

Martha again? Come on guys. How many times are you going to beat this horse? You literally had it in a video that you released about a week ago.

[@justinsinke2088]

I mean, I don't see why the Spider-Man defense is bad. It sounds reasonable to me; it was SUPPOSED to be funny, but clearly, their vision of "let's laugh at the guy trying too hard to be the suave bad boy" missed the mark pretty badly. The fact that he said "supposed" meant that he was acknowledging that it wasn't the audience who were wrong about the scene, but that he was, which is less a poor defense and more an admission. Same with the Indiana Jones one, how is it a "worst defense" when said director is essentially admitting that it was a mistake, at least in hindsight?

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Because they made Raimi put something he could have avoided that's why. Arad is the real reason why Spider Man 3 is still called mediocrity supreme

[@MrCaerbannog]

It's telling that the last decade has seen Star Wars fandom admit that pretty much every criticism that was thrown George Lucas' way in the 1990s and 2000s was in retrospect unwarranted... except for Greedo shooting first, which is still widely agreed to be an absolutely horrible idea.

[@AndreyKrichevsky]

I don't know why people are so hung up on this... To me, dodging a blaster bolt from point blank is at least as badass as a preemptive shot... If you ask me if Han shot first, my answer is always "No. Han TALKED first, and only shot when he failed to talk his way out of trouble..."

[@jamesboice2763]

sorry but Disney, a corporation that makes art as a product and has had huge eras of artistic failure, making poor products does not redeem George Lucas. that guy never made it out of the 80s with any integrity left. the prequels are still worse than the sequels

[@SquiresIsle]

The first time I saw "The CGI is bad on purpose" for Flash, I was 100% sure it was misquoted to be clickbait. Nope. That was his defense.

[@mrkaji8913]

6:06 I knew this whould be here

[@HunterSentinel]

4:21 OOOOOOOOOH, see I was way too young to remember that now. Seeing it again on tv or dvd or what ever, I thought people were just denying reality becuase “Han solo so cool”… turns out he really did shoot first and they’re denying the rewrite cause it’s bad….. really bad…..

[@rayneozier]

In defense of Tenet, it’s pretty clear to me that Nolan basically didn’t care about anything other than spectacle. He just wanted to get some cool shots with the reverse time thing. The protagonist is literally called protagonist, so he obviously didn’t care about the “fine details” lol

[@getnohappy]

There's always the generic go-to of "but lots of people worked hard on it" (i.e., final season Game of Thrones)

[@Grigoris_]

Whether you like something or not you can't deny the hard work and probable sacrifices people make. That's a fact. We can talk about how misguided or poorly written something is but people's work should not be takin for granted.

[@ultr0shot440]

It wasn't incoherent guys😂. Go watch tenant again. When does the music overshadow the dialog? Only when all the knowledge you receive that is needed for the story to progress is through vision. Go back and watch the airport scene with that in mind. Just mute the TV, the unmute it afterwards and tell me you couldn't understand what was going on, you can't. Edit: to clarify, the scene where Pattinson is escorted and scouts everything. Music gets louder to let you know you should be looking, not listening.

[@andson02]

The fridge part is where you drew the line in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Really..? Not the ending with the aliens ? ALL of these reasons listed aren't the worst things about these movies and not the reasons why most of these flopped big time

[@SensoriaMaRia]

I think the biggest mistake was letting The Flash, I mean Ezra Miller, touch ANY babies.

[@JamesBussey-t5j]

Agreed. We need to petition the director's cut for the deleted scene of The Flash asking the babies if they wanted to fight and choking them

[@SensoriaMaRia]

@@JamesBussey-t5j YES! That's the Director's cut we deserve. 👏👏👏 Actually, while we're at it, let's cut Ezra out of the film entirely.

[@CoolPaDuke]

I like how Han now jerks his head slightly (and unnaturally) without even blinking at the laser shooting right next to his face.

[@TrevorCopter]

Nice use of the word “fulcrum” when talking BvS #theflash 😂

[@rorylynch7775]

Bryan Singer tried to defend the godawful design for Oscar Isaacs Apocalypse looking like Ivan Ooze by stupidly claiming the picture released for marketing had a pink effect before the film's release. Of course the movie came out and Apocalypse still looked stupid and impossible to take seriously as an imposing, threating villain, and the movie itself was terrible

[@Sunprism]

Uwe Boll "Who cares, I'll fight you!"

[@travisinthetrunk]

“No movie is perfect.” Josh must have forgot about Captain Ron.

[@AlexReynard]

[nod] Or Speed Racer.

[@AnnoyingMoose]

There is no debate over "Who shot first?" - Han was the only one to shoot!

[@jomega_gaming]

That flash CGI is fucking shocking, I don't care what the reason is cos you know it's a lie anyway. And I'm glad it's bad cos now it looks as bad as the rest of the film is.

[@CBrown]

I actually buy all of these excuses because it's clear sometimes that directors are making movies for themselves, not their audience and they don't understand (or perhaps don't care) about how what they're doing will be perceived. I don't mind that from an artist perspective but we pay for movies to be entertaining and sometimes what they're doing, like Nolan and his bad audio, isn't entertaining.

[@missmanners62]

rosemary's baby is perfect.

[@SpydrXIII]

we need a better screening process for our directors and other high influence rolls in movies. too often we hire people who don't care about the IP they are given.

[@numerousncomicsandlegos6780]

The Martha moment should have been where after Superman brings up Martha, and how “he’s letting them kill her” it should have made batman think back to Jason Todd. Hell, Jason’s presence should have been more than just an Easter egg

[@mikelowry6286]

The fact that the Flash has been in production limbo since 2016 and the movie and effects was that bad just shows you how unfocus the DCU is I'm so glad James Gunn is taking control

[@thepolloelectrico1117]

That's the point in Spiderman, how Peter is cringe when he's infected by Venom. I'll always defend that sequence.

[@ArcaJ]

I saw Spider-Man 3 in the theater. At the midnight premiere. With my brother, who was in leave from the Army. We literally didn't say a word on the ride home. 😐

[@namesy]

With Halloween Ends A) the studio will do the trailer. Not the filmmakers. So what the filmmaker wanted to do and what was teased by the studio are two entirely different areas. B) they remade the original Halloween trilogy. The titles for Ends were in the same font as Halloween 3. Also a film that bypasses Michael. And at the time fans were up in arms about. But is now a well loved sequel with said fans saying “people just don’t get the film. It’s good regardless of if it has Michael in it or not”. Same said fans went on to complain about Ends not having enough Michael in it and so it’s therefore not a Halloween movie.

[@mrkaji8913]

I love emo Peter montage

[@lealmelisa]

Great list! Thank you.

[@tizzlevang3596]

Shark Boy n Lava Girl looked better than FLASH.

[@LordRain1031]

My one and ONLY question. When arw we going to get a Flash movie with a REAL actor??

[@MitchellTF]

...This was made JUST to make fun of the Flash, wasn't it? Not saying it didn't deserve it, but...

[@dorklyasmr6017]

Just a quick note about what you describe as the "critical and commercial flop" the Last Airbender. While it's true that this stinking pile of dog feces was a "critical flop," it was not a commercial flop as most people understand the term. In theaters it earned 320 million dollars worldwide against a 150 million dollar budget; meaning it probably lost 20-30 million dollars in the theaters when accounting for the theaters' cut and marketing. And on home video and sales to places like HBO, it definitely cleaned up and certainly was ultimately profitable overall. John Carter this wasn't.

[@johns1230]

My assumption about why the CGI was so bad in the Flash was so that it would be very clear that the use of images of actors as the characters in those scenes only were so obviously bad that the studio had a strong leg to stand on as to why they wouldn't have to pay or give credit to those actors because who would ever make the mistake of thinking that those were real people rather than the CGI?

[@Paradox-es3bl]

I might be one of the only people who still doesn't mind Dino-Zilla. If it had atomic breath, I think it would've been a fine Godzilla. And, I liked the reveal that Godzilla was a mother. That might be the coolest thing someone has done with Godzilla since like Mecha-Ghidora or something. Just a shame that the movie wasn't great as a whole, and it wasn't really Godzilla. It had no chance of a sequel. Because I see potential there. Kinda like if you turn off X-Men Origins Wolverine right when it gets to the "present day" it's actually the best X-Men movie of all time lmao. And RR Wade Wilson was fantastic.

[@reaper0470]

I feel they could have continue the Halloween movies if instead of focusing on Cory they focused on MM and Lori. Cory being shown to start to follow in MM's footsteps and at the end tease him picking up MM's mask and walking away to end the new trilogy. This would have closed the original story while having a chance to setup something new or show that the original evil can be passed on to others. Missed opportunities.

[@eddiegreencheez]

I always have subtitles on in everything I watch, personal preference

[@Somarinoa]

That is PRECISELY how I took the Spider-Man 3 scene since my first watch. I’ve always been a little confused about how people didn’t understand that. Do they not know who the director even is? Goofy shit is his bread and butter.

[@ThePhantomStinker]

"Flash vision" would have been fine if only it had been hinted at. If he had to actually relearn how to use his eyes because they're now moving faster than his brain knows how to process things, we may have forgiven it. The fact that we instead had to hear that afterwards tells us his "design choice" is a great big load of crap.

[@sleepwalking4301]

elizabeth banks blamed the failure of her charlie’s angels reboot on “men don’t want to see female lead action movies”

[@dude37]

She did a reboot of Charlie's Angels?

[@sleepwalking4301]

@@dude37 exactly

[@invaderjae]

10. Halloween Kills was just bad all around, No excuse 9.Tenet - never seen it. Didn't look good in the first place 8. Lucas REALLY should have just left the movies alone instead of adding in all the bad cgi 7. This was obviously Rami showing how little he cared for the motive, with good reason. Since the execs wouldn't stop making him add stuff in. 6.That movie is the second worst film ever made. Theres no excuse M.Night Shamalamadingdong could make that would excuse it 5. I didn't really care about the fridge scene. It was silly but over fast enough that you can forget about it. But I get the anger towards it. 4. SNyder should be ousted for his DC movies. There was no good writing or direction in them. And the Martha crap shows it. 3. Makes sense 2. Yeah, that was cringe 1. Congrats! A new winner of the worst movie ever made!! Everything about this movie is just bad and shows that DC/WB have no idea how to make their own movies. This should have ended the DCEU. But we still got 2 more shitty movies to add more nails into the coffin that is DC movies. Here's hoping that Gunn can fix the Snyderverse mistake.

[@ASMR-Arboretum]

Well thats one explanation for The Last Airbender but theres still at least 20 other things wrong with that movie. Does Shamalamadingdong have an explanation for the horrible story? The horrible dialog? The fact it didn't follow the any already writen story line? The changing of the pronunciation of the main character name? The horrible effects? So we know now why it had bad acting but there are still so so many problems with that movie.

[@AnOldGeezer420]

I'm about to catch SOOO much s*** for saying this...................... I actually prefer the 1998 Godzilla design..... 😳 I think he looks wayyyyy more animalistic and believable than the O.G. Design. And honestly? I think he looks wayyyyyyyyyy cooler. That said, we wouldn't have ["The Abominable"] "Hollywood" Godzilla without the O.G. design. It's not that I don't appreciate O.G. Godzilla, but maybe 8 year old me was just so obsessed with Jurassic Park at the time that I didn't really care. Please make a sequel, for the love of God!! I've been dying to see little mini Godzilla babies terrorize Manhatten since that movie came out.

[@NitsuaEsahc]

To address number 9, that’s why I watch movies and tv shows with subtitles 😂

[@rabbitherochlo]

lol why does that look like mike o’hearn 12:06 😂

[@AlexReynard]

re: Ghostbusters 2016 'It's not that I had actresses ad-lib without a script in an insane attempt to prove a point that women are funny, the problem is that audiences just hate women!' Paul "Big Fat Slimeball Piece Of Shit" Fieg Same applies to Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson.

[@barney7822]

The recreated CGI characters could've looked better if they had been done in monochrome Like the liquid metal holograms in MAN OF STEEL

[@otaking3582]

The CGI in Flash is the least of that movie's problems

[@GoTron88]

The Flash excuse really is the worst. Like even after he slows down in that opening baby scene, the babies look weird. And all the Batfleck fight scenes at normal speed look just as terrible.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

If WC created another list of worst excuses directors made for Superhero flicks this may be number one

[@jessesarrazin8713]

The Quicksilver scenes in X-men were better than the whole Flash movie. I have a Zilla statue on top of my Computer my grandma bought me because she knows I love dinosaurs haha.

[@B-Dad]

Martha scene has nothing to do with the name. It’s all about confusion. It confuses Bruce who assumes he’s trying to trick him. It’s not until Lois says it’s his(supes) mom that he realizes that he’s the monster standing over a man asking to save Martha. He’s turned into the monster that killed his parents. THATS WHY HE STOPS. Superman saves Bruce in that moment by restoring his hope. Superman brought the light back to the world.

[@kevinclapson]

Was the Martha scene terrible and clunky? Yes. Is it what hurt the movie? No. I wouldn't even put it in the top 5 of issues that movie had. To a degree I can see what Snyder is driving at in his defense of the scene. Before the movie was turned into a JL setup and incorporated Death of Superman to support that end, the movie was supposed to be an examination of how the fallout of MoS was affecting not just the world, but Bruce. With the titular conflict being the eventual outcome. You can see evidence of such in the ultimate cut of the movie. If the film was actually able to focus more on telling that story, the Martha scene may have hit in the way Snyder regards it.

[@shinzero0271]

I kinda felt like Snyder didn't actually understand the source material he was using for the film. It's like he missed the point of the arcs referenced. It's something I noticed since Man of Steel, where he seemed to be trying to copy Nolan's symbolism for some reason via Costner and Fishburne. Then in BvS he kinda treated Superman like Dr. Manhattan and Batman like Rorscharch, with Luthor being some weird hybrid of 1960's Joker and Mark Zuckerberg. The guy can definitely make action sequences but he seems to run on what would lead to cool visuals rather than what would lead to a coherent plot with consistent characterization. The weirdest thing for me about the film is that Superman actually let Batman fight him rather than instantly defeating him. There was none of the years worth of respect built up that the source material had so the idea of even trying to have a fair fight with Batman just didn't make sense. Realistically, Superman just eyelasers/backhands/punts/throws a car/uses super breath on Batman, having multiple methods of defeating the guy from a distance.

[@eddiegreencheez]

They turned Michael Meyers into a side character, in his own movie. Idea was fairly interesting but horribly executed

[@andreasmeelie1889]

I find the emo Peter Parker stuff to be absolutely hilarious!😂😅

[@matthewhibbard9807]

I just watched the Flash today. I actually didn’t mind it. I especially liked the 2nd half. Wish they would’ve eased up on the Marvel style way too many not funny lines. DC should go all in on the Pattinson Batman & Phoenix Joker style.

[@GameUpOG]

The flash really sold me that Hollywood is over paid

[@mr.movienerd3310]

Emo Parker was the best part about Spider-Man 3

[@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG]

In Sam Raimi's defense, he probably did think the Emo Peter Parker was funny. Raimis a weird guy.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Nah. That was on Arad not Raimi. DAMMIT ARAD GET THE FUCK OUTTA SONY ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mike9512]

Thank you for calling out Tenet. The guy is not infallible, he does make bad decisions.

[@shinzero0271]

I honestly thought he made that choice for Tenent to avoid actually writing sensible dialogue. It covered up a lot of technobabble and actual reasoning for events. Nolan's got big concepts that he comes up with but always tends to make the idea so convoluted that the audience will usually ignore major plotholes and outright incoherent scenes with the belief that "You just don't 'get' it, something something symbolism.". Hell, you can't even actually make out who is fighting most of the time in the finale sequence. Stuff is just exploding with no apparent source or trajectory and the audience can willfully ignore that because the focus is on a big reveal on Robert Pattinson's character.

[@davidmcmaster2083]

Just love people who say the fridge bit is just ridiculous. The entire series is ridiculous, the spirits in the Ark melting off the face of the Nazi, a bridge appearing in Indy 3 simply cuz Indy 'believes.' The entire series is ludicrous, soup to nuts. The fridge bit fits right in.

[@sarmadhabibkhan3036]

Flash Director: Oh no the CGI was bad on purpose. It was Barry's POV while he was running. Me: Then why did the babies still look like hot shite after he stopped running? Flash Director: .........Fuck

[@jacobdrolet4262]

Amazing video

[@nathanisaksson7750]

There’s no defense for misspelling. 😅

[@Revelwoodie]

I don't know...I think maybe that CGI was intentionally bad. CGI seemed to hit a peak in the early 2000s, maybe 2010-ish, and has been getting steadily worse ever since. At first I thought it was just filmmakers overreaching, trying to do more than the technology would allow. But then I see younger people saying something looks cool that I think looks cartoonish, and I wonder if cartoonish is now the aesthetic for some genre films?

[@randallminchew6780]

For Tenet I had to watch KZbin just to understand what I just watched.

[@kimanireid6111]

0:13 which movie/series ?

[@xtheflabeox8813]

I literally laughed and came to tears watching the cringe emo Peter Parker it was hilarious to me😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@su_shadow9326]

Han shot first! *Drops mic and walks away.*

[@TheNightmareMan]

I think I'd like to hear the explanation for why they decided to stick a baby in a microwave in the flash just because there isn't any satisfactory explanation

[@andrewgonzalez6208]

Surprisingly a solid list

[@javib2978]

Actually, The Last Airbender. Was ruined by studio interference.

[@javib2978]

In the case of producers Harvey and Bob Weinstein. By studio interference, it had some type of subtext. To me, it felt justified by former producer Harvey Weinstein. I not going to argue about it. There is some substance when he edited films, a quote by Harvey Weinstein is stated here: "I'm not cutting for fun. I'm cutting for the shit to work. All my life I served one master: the film. I love movies. Which he definitely he had a point about here. The same cannot be about today's Hollywood days. All this political views about liberals against conservatives at each other. I am not into political stuff and philosophical debates. I not into politics. I get why All The Pretty Horses wasn't well received by audiences and critics. As for me, I was a child back then. I watch films out of morbid curiosity. Not for criticism and political views.

[@javib2978]

It's a shame there will never be a Marvel universe versus DC Universe crossover films. If that happens, it's time to let a new genre in movies to takeover. Superhero movies can still happen. But it won't the leading face in cinema.

[@javib2978]

Differences Between Comic Book and Novel Adaptations. Superhero stories are meant to be episodic ongoing adventures. Book adaptations such as Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Narnia, Earthsea, Lord of the Rings, detective books, manga, horror, western, slasher, and sci fi novels. On the hand, are not episodic ongoing stories like superheroes. There once in a lifetime experience. They are meant to alter changes to the source material. People have to deal with it. Novel adaptations are meant for die hard fans, scholars, and librarians alike. Changes to their source material need to occur. To feel justified. Even if novel readers don't like the changes. Too bad. What is the point of adapting them in the first place? It doesn't matter if the novel creators aren't involved, it's okay. Being book accurate is no longer an excuse anymore. You can't judge book adaptations. If they alter book adaptations, changes it's source material to fit the runtime, I am not arguing about it. Producers, do your own thing. Creative interference needs to happen. "Film and tv directors, you cannot get what you always want to do. Because, life doesn't work that way. You are told what you are tasked to do. There is no need to be rebellious. Deal with it".