100% PROOF That “Charasmatic Tongues” Is NOT Biblical… (Speaking in Tongues)

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Lion of Fire RAW (Matt Mason)

Lion of Fire RAW (Matt Mason)

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100% PROOF That “Charasmatic Tongues” Is NOT Biblical… (Speaking in Tongues)
The "speaking in tongues" that we see in Charasmatic/Pentecostal churches today are NOT biblical.
This video shows that this theology is being read into the Bible, rather than reading the Bible in proper context. Also, tongues is NEVER used for private prayer in the Bible!
#tongues #tonguesprayer

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@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Three things to note… 1) Tongues in the Bible are NEVER (not even once) anything other than another human language. 2) Tongues in the Bible are NEVER prayed privately, only between an individual and God. They are always spoken/prayed in the presence of others, FOR their edification. 3) The Bible teaches that tongues must ALWAYS have an interpreter, in EVERY instance!
@shaunhunterit342
@shaunhunterit342 6 ай бұрын
On point 3, if this is an intelligible human language, such as me as an Englishman speaking Chinese although I've never learned the language, why would an interpreter be needed? The whole point of what happened in Acts 2 is that people from various parts of the world WOULD have needed an interpreter to understand what these Galilaeans were saying, but because of God giving them the ability to speak other languages, an interpreter was not needed.
@jannaswanson271
@jannaswanson271 6 ай бұрын
The Bible calls tongues "the tongues of men and angels" I Corinthians 13:1. "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." I Corinthians 14:2 If tongues were readily understandable they would not need interpretation. Mark 16:17 says, "And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;"
@shaunhunterit342
@shaunhunterit342 6 ай бұрын
@@jannaswanson271 so are you arguing for the gift of tongues as an unintelligible language?
@jannaswanson271
@jannaswanson271 6 ай бұрын
@@shaunhunterit342 The Bible calls tongues the "tongues of men and angels", not the tongues of men only. I speak in tongues. I have prayed for interpretation but have not yet received that understanding. So tongues are always intelligent, they are languages and therefore were created by Yahuah. Yet they are also a mystery when we don't understand them.
@MoonPhaze5
@MoonPhaze5 6 ай бұрын
​@@shaunhunterit342 The tongues would be for the person/persons that speak another language or other languages; but the interpreter would be for those who the Spirit was not addressing.
@karenreynolds349
@karenreynolds349 6 ай бұрын
There are some denominations that put speaking in tongues above the Word!!!!!I use to attend a church that taught if you didn't speak in tongues your not saved!!!!! Such egregious/ erroneous teaching!!!!!!!
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Crazy!!
@GregRickard
@GregRickard 6 ай бұрын
upc? I know they teach it as evidence of having received the Holy ghost.
@vonn2221
@vonn2221 6 ай бұрын
Any teaching that start go forgot about Jesus sacrifice in the cross definitely go error The other form of it is by saying someone must get saved by doing works for God When Salvation is gift, carry the cross is the work so later we get reward that being mention in Revelation, about the crowns Salvation being design so in order no one can boast that they get saved by such mean that doesnt need Jesus But many forgot about it and it is sad
@The_Warrior526
@The_Warrior526 6 ай бұрын
The United Pentacostal Churches and One-ness Churches seem to believe this.
@karenreynolds349
@karenreynolds349 6 ай бұрын
@Greg. Yep - Holiness/ Pentecostal church!!!!
@mlmagic12
@mlmagic12 4 ай бұрын
Excellent. I walked away from the Pentecostal doctrine a few years ago. Was constantly questioning myself, as some friends stand their ground on this and it’s the “evidence” we are filled with the Holy Ghost! God has shown me different and it’s just as you say. I just don’t argue with them now. I don’t care any longer to prove them wrong as I once did. I just give that to the Lord to sort out. Thank you!
@randman21
@randman21 6 ай бұрын
Your thumbnail cracked me up. That kind of speaking has always made my hair stand up, as a non-believer and now as a Christian. The first church I went to after accepting Christ was Pentecostal. It was a tiny congregation, but everyone spoke in tongues throughout every service (the pastor would do it maybe once per service). I was led to believe the gift of tongues was automatic at baptism, so when I was baptized and didn't receive it, I definitely thought something was wrong with me! Thank God for the Bible, where I eventually read that's not how tongues works. I appreciate you for bringing more light to this subject.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. Hopefully this video helps many!! Matt 🙏
@robertcain3426
@robertcain3426 5 ай бұрын
The apostle Paul taught against everybody speaking in tongues IN CHURCH, teaching that only two or three speak in tongues IN CHURCH so that those tongues could be interpreted and thereby have the whole church edified by the message, rather than just the tongue speaker being edified (built up in faith). Paul also wrote in his 1 letter to the Corinthians that 'not everyone speaks in tongues' 1 Cor 12:30. So every Pentecostal or Charismatic church who come together and speak in tongues are going against Paul's teaching on church function.
@minimalistact7246
@minimalistact7246 Ай бұрын
I’m at church and the same thing with Me sometimes people start speaking in tongues and I don’t feel the Holy Spirit or anything. It scares me and some of them just do these weird noises and it is scary.
@mangimadang4059
@mangimadang4059 4 ай бұрын
Brother, you are 100% right. The first instance ever recorded in the Book of acts about speaking in tongues was the fact the Jewish Believers in Jerusalem were now speaking in the languages of those people that came from other nations. They did not know what they were speaking but those from other nations could hear that they were speaking in in their language. There's the foundation of speaking in tongues. Its a known language to the hearer but not to the speaker (The speaker will only understand what he speaks if God gives him the interpretation). All these gibberish I hear in the church is no speaking in tongues...its just gibberish.
@jeanclaude7018
@jeanclaude7018 21 күн бұрын
@@mangimadang4059 "hondakawasakisuzukiyamaguchi". See, I now have a "prayer language" too!
@linneab8317
@linneab8317 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interpretation. I had taught a children’s choir a song in Yoruba, an African tongue. Unknown to us there were 3 visitors form Nigeria visiting us on the Sunday we debuted it. The men were so happy to hear this sacred song in their native language and they desired to know how I knew they would be there had been no prior notification that they’d be there. God is simply awesome.❤
@acorte52
@acorte52 6 ай бұрын
From someone who has experienced some surprising things with my prayer language I will list these two instances. A young lady who taught multiple languages was in a car with a group of us abruptly started shouting at me as several of us were singing a worship song that was on the radio. We were alternating singing in tongues and in english. The driver stopped to see if she was ok and checked to see why she was yelling. She said I can understand what you're saying! You are singing about the Lordship of Jesus! She told me to do it again but I told her i didn't know what i was singing or how make it happen but we could just go back to singing and see what occurred. After a very short time It happened again and we all rejoiced together. I experienced another time when I was speaking to a newer convert than I was, and as we began to praying tongues we both found ourselves saying the same thing for multiple phrases, ( sentences) until we found ourselves rejoicing in the Lord. We stopped stared again and within a few seconds again began saying exactly the same wording tongues at the exactly same time. What a wonder. I think the Lord wants us to be able to be more free to experience His Holy Spirit in multiple ways. I haven't given the scriptures because others have already listed them. The church has been all lecture and no lab for far too long. I would love to have a bible study in which we were able to talk about some of these things more freely. PS thank you for posting opinions that dont exactly line up with yours. I really respect that.
@encouragingword1172
@encouragingword1172 23 күн бұрын
Good testimony. People often limit God and His miraculous ways and gifts because of their own lack of understanding of the scriptures. Without faith it is impossible to please Him. We can actually trust God to use unknown tongues through us to bless the body of Christ and to build ourselves up in the Holy Spirit as well.
@jeanclaude7018
@jeanclaude7018 21 күн бұрын
@@acorte52 In reality, you don't have a "prayer language," because NONE exists in the Bible. Not a SINGLE instance exists of any man or woman of God in scripture doing this. Even our example, Jesus, in Matthew 6 or John 17, or in Gethsemane or on the cross. Never. And Jesus, per Luke 4, was FILLED with the Holy Spirit, yet not ONCE did He show the "evidence" that misled pentecostal demand.
@Christine-te4mr
@Christine-te4mr 10 күн бұрын
what "tongues" were you singing in? Did you mean foreign languages, like Igala (spoken in Nigeria), Russians, Japanese, etc?
@jeanclaude7018
@jeanclaude7018 10 күн бұрын
@@acorte52 Unfortunately, what you're describing is not found in the Bible anywhere, so how could you study it, unless you extract a few texts out of context, and twist them to meet your experience? Folks are inspired to do this by an unholy spirit, unfortunately , but they are ready to believe they're "rejoicing in the Lord, " yet how do they know that, when they're speaking in gibberish that CANNOT be interpreted? Search the SCRIPTURES, and I assure you that not one person in the Bible did the actions you just described. The ONLY biblical gift of tongues is the type recorded in Acts 2, wherein they were given REAL tongues as one of the o gifts of the Spirit, fir the express purpose of EVANGELISM. There is NO "second type of tongues " used as a "heavenly prayer language " anywhere in the Bible, yet people will do anything to believe in it, because the emotional high is apparently incredible.
@debbieconrad6616
@debbieconrad6616 6 ай бұрын
In my experience, there seems to be a correlation between an insistence on speaking in tongues and certain personality types. Like you said, people who like to draw attention to themselves, or those who feel they have something to prove about their spirituality. Thanks for covering this, Matt, and for doing the due diligence to pull out every relevant scripture. 😊
@Monika0035
@Monika0035 6 ай бұрын
A woman came to me. Back in August, talking about God - saying 'if you dont speak in tongues you are not baptised by the holy spirit' she goes down alot of mornings 'praying in tongues' by herself , by the ocean - that very same area suffered damaged and extrodinary high waves that pushed huge rocks out of the ocean - I stopped going there but meeting her caused me alot of doubt and anxiety , ive been praying about it and it was good to hear you talk the truth about it , in your previous videeo about it , where you demonstrated , i laughed out loud - thank you for keeping it real and simple 💝
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Glad it helped 😃
@rickiilatino
@rickiilatino 6 ай бұрын
The enemy tries to bring confusion, The Lord leads us in Righteousness. Praise God 🙏
@Valkaze111
@Valkaze111 2 ай бұрын
if you believe jesus christ as your lord and saviour then you're saved and sealed unto the day of redemption with the holy spirit. simple! no need for tongues to be saved
@jeanclaude7018
@jeanclaude7018 20 күн бұрын
@@Monika0035 Ask her if JESUS spoke in tongues after being baptized with the HS.
@danyoung5052
@danyoung5052 19 күн бұрын
I must say that I speak in tongues. At the begining it was a pastor who introduced it to me. I had questioned it, and sropped using it for some years. But one night, when i was praying, i started praying back in tongues and I remember clearly some words that I said. I went researching the words and found out it was Hebrew that I was speaking, and all the words were praising and magnifying God. That gave my heart comfort. I never ever knew Hebrew words except for the common ones, like how God is referred to as like Jireh, raffa, neisi etc.
@rickfitzgerald1760
@rickfitzgerald1760 3 ай бұрын
i once spoke in tongues. i was attacked by satan that i blasphemed against the Holy Spirit when i guit for many years after that. i was in total agony for a long time. that was over 4o years ago. i found a book called i once spoke in tongues that helped some. the things i seen and experienced is beyond comprehension. i was anew Christen and was took to a assembly of god church where i was told i had to be baptized by the holy and speak in tongues or i was not saved yet. yet this opened the door to spiritual wickedness that sifted me like wheat. stay away from these things or you could suffer untold agony for a long time. i am talking about tongues ,,slain in the spirit , dancing in the spirit, tongues of fire, running in the spirit , visions, and much more. it is no joke!!
@Valkaze111
@Valkaze111 2 ай бұрын
tongues and visions are biblical, but not like the charsmiatic heretical churches where they deceptively and use it unorganised im glad you've seen the truth as well
@sonialestage427
@sonialestage427 Ай бұрын
I had a similar experience and once i discovered the biblical truth about tongues, my life changed for the better...I have had fewer and fewer satanic attacks since the cessation of this practice because the doors that I opened before are now closed.... the truth makes us free... Amen!
@ellisonhamilton3322
@ellisonhamilton3322 6 ай бұрын
The word tongues means language and I completely agree that is the context with which the Bible means the word be understood. Earthly languages. Greetings from Kansas. Hope you are doing well.
@danielbu2611
@danielbu2611 6 ай бұрын
"If I speak in the tongues of men AND of angels, but have not love, I have become like a banging gong..."
@rentlastname2824
@rentlastname2824 6 ай бұрын
Spot on again bro! Very well articulated. Isn’t great how, wedged in between the two chapters in 1 Cor about the gifts, is a wonderful instruction on what motivates the selfless exercise of the gifts.
@tckirk2827
@tckirk2827 6 ай бұрын
Hey brother I don't quite see it the way you do on this subject , I 100 % agree there Is false tongues in the charismatic church just like there are false doctrines , false teachers etc etc , but I do believe the bible shows there are different tongues , the bible says in 1 corinthians 14 -2 for one who speaks in a tongue speaks to God not to man for no one understands him , so that can't be a known language in this case if no one understands him I do think certain tongues are known languages, and others are to be interpreted, others are for private prayer , in 1 corinthians 12- 10 it says various kinds of tongues , and I don't think the bible is saying when you speak in tongues and are building yourself up it is a bad thing paul goes on to say the one who prophesies is greater because it builds up the church , in Jude 1-20 encourages us to build ourselves up in our holiest faith by praying in the Holy spirit . Obviously I know certain people my see it different but I believe we are still all brothers and sisters in Christ I just don't let false tongues , false teachers , prophets etc stop me personally believe what scriptures I think show an teach 🙏
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
The reason no one understands him in 1 Cor 14:2 is because there is no interpretation. If someone in the room spoke that language (or had the gift of interpretation) they could interpret it. Paul is saying WITHOUT interpretation, no one understands it. That’s the context. Not that it’s not a language that anyone in the world speaks!! I would say that various kinds of tongues means just that; various types of (human) languages. Not all tongues are in one specific human language.
@tckirk2827
@tckirk2827 6 ай бұрын
@lionoffireraw it doesn't make sense to me that tongues always has to be a known language in acts 2 it was tongues for a sign to unbelievers so it was a known language yet in corinthians paul talks about praying in tongues 14-14 , he speaks about speaking in tongues in the church so now to believers and clarifies this by saying someone needs the gift of interpretation to understand that type of tongue so that cannot be a known language otherwise you wouldn't need the gift of interpretation? Obviously in acts 2 the unbelievers didn't have the gift of interpretation they understood because it was a known language, so if the believers in the church hear a tongue and nobody understands it unless they have the gift of interpretation then that doesn't sound like a known language if it was a known language that would make the gift of interpretation worthless , and listening to people like David wilkersom , dereck prince , carter conlon , these people love and preach context and they helped me greatly understand what paul was writing to us but I respect you see it different brother just giving you my understanding like you are to me God bless 🙏
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comments. There is just no hint of any secret language. This is something that came into existence around 1900, and has been inserted into peoples understanding of the text. It makes perfect sense for someone to speak in tongues in a human language, that no one in the service speaks, and then have someone with the gift of interpretation of that language. In no way is this negated by the gift of interpretation. My issue is that there simply is no occurrence in the Bible of anyone speaking tongues other than a known human language. As I demonstrated in the video, those passages which people used to suggest it is a prayer language, are easily explained away in the context of the passage. I believe that many people today are sincere in there seeking, and experiences, but the Bible simply does not communicate that anything other than human language even exists.
@shaunhunterit342
@shaunhunterit342 6 ай бұрын
@@tckirk2827 "I don't think the bible is saying when you speak in tongues and are building yourself up it is a bad thing" exactly. This isn't the first time I'm hearing someone suggest that Paul is criticising or rebuking the church for doing this. I think we know when Paul is rebuking the church as he doesn't aim to be subtle.
@petraalbrecht9431
@petraalbrecht9431 6 ай бұрын
i understand that there is a lot of abuse and if you speak in a service in tongues it should be with an interpretation for you should build up the church, to boast or to exalt yourself above others is a problem of the flesh. I am grateful to speak in tongues it has often builded me up, when I did not know what to pray, it builded me up and gives me strength but it is not an emotional high and certainly does not mean I am some sort of an elite. but it does certainly not mean I am influenced by a demonic spirit. I asked god for it , and he would not have given me a bad spirit.
@TheSwordandPearl
@TheSwordandPearl 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I asked God to help me understand if what they call 'tongues' is from Him.. and I'm grateful He's protected me from people 'imparting' them to me. This video confirms so much! Thank you 💗
@pastorernestalbuquerque4770
@pastorernestalbuquerque4770 6 ай бұрын
Loved your sharing on this subject. I'm on a similar journey. Blessed by your content. God bless.
@annaeksteen8233
@annaeksteen8233 3 сағат бұрын
I agree 💯 with you. I have always, ALWAYS felt uncomfortable if I was close to somebody speaking in tongues. It made me irritable as it drew my attention away from the actual service or time of prayer. I could most of the time have a feeling that it was fake. But I felt guilty feeling that way as it came to mind that they could speak in tongues and I could not. I, therefore, rather stayed home and avoided going to church. Your teachings really make a lot of things/ questions clear to me. Thank you. It is so much appreciated.
@marisa5359
@marisa5359 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. This has been one of the most challenging things to pinpoint truth on for me as one who grew up in a very chaotic charismatic atmosphere. It was such a painful thing to try to push through the clutter to find the simple gospel message as a child and young adult. After finally leaving that mess behind and spending time seeking what the Word actually says, the conclusions I have found there are confirmed in what you have shared here. It is so helpful to hear others say it. As to being a cessationist or a continuist...After I first walked away, I ran as far from any talk of gifts as I could out of fear of being sucked back in. However, after much study and a lot of prayer, I have come to a more balanced thought in recent years. I cannot turn aside from the truth gifts still exist, but I now see that the main problem in the old teachings I once sat under was that they prescribed a manufactured, one-size-fits-all approach. It was a vanity-filled, me-centered exercise. I now recognize God is sovereign. He gives and moves as HE wills. His PERFECT will. Never our own. The crux of the problem is when we forget that.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
I agree with much of this, and I’m glad you’re out of there!! I will never be a cessationist (or Calvinist), but I will never get caught up in NAR nonsense either!!
@sonialestage427
@sonialestage427 Ай бұрын
Amen!!!
@elizabethknight5974
@elizabethknight5974 3 ай бұрын
I think what most need to do here is instead of attacking our brother, why not read the scriptures and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding? Thank you for this video brother God bless you 🙏💕🕊
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 3 ай бұрын
God bless you. Matt 🙏
@fayea78
@fayea78 3 ай бұрын
I've written a paper when I was doing my theological studies. While it's true that the tongues in the Bible were actual languagws, the "charismatic tongues" & some manifestations of the spirit are real. If you look into church history & how it all got started, you can't really explain them away. John Wesley, a logical & methodical man led meetings that involved such spiritual manifestations & he never condemned it. I do however disagree with how the Pentecostals ran away with proof texting. But that doesn't mean the gift of such tongues are fake. We need to leave room for the Spirit & remember that it's only one of the many gifts of the Spirit, it's not a sign of salvation or more maturity/special/anointed. It's the only personal gift that does nothing for the church unless there is an interpreter (even that needs to be careful). No gift is given to all & not all Christians are given every gift. 1 cor teaches this clearly. So don't throw the baby out with the water.
@tinashegavinchinhara2597
@tinashegavinchinhara2597 6 ай бұрын
mmmmm, you are wrong, it can't be said that all tongues are fake. Did the Lord tell you that what you were doing was not real or it was just a feeling. Please explain, when you first spoke in tongues what did you experience because if you just started putting sounds together for yourself indeed they were fake but if you experienced a touch from the Lord be careful not to blaspheme the things of the Lord because you will be held accountable
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Interesting counter argument...
@YaakovBuchner
@YaakovBuchner 3 ай бұрын
Every video I have watched, I have been in agreement and enjoyed. I have been blessed by your ministry and desire to stay true to the Word. Thank you!
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 3 ай бұрын
Praise God. Thank you for your encouragement. Matt
@MoonPhaze5
@MoonPhaze5 6 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue [his own native language] pray that he may interpret. 1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue [unknown to others], my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. "My understanding is unfruitful": Although i have understanding, it does not profit those who cannot understand my language.
@user-bi5fj3sy3i
@user-bi5fj3sy3i 25 күн бұрын
Just a little personal testimony about praying in tongues. As a relatively new believer I heard about tongues and was asking God for that gift. I was at my parents home on my knees in their bathroom when I first started praying in an unfamiliar unknown language. That language has developed greatly over the last 25 years. I came from quite a rough background and before that experience I couldn’t string a sentence together without swearing like a trooper, interestingly the swearing stopped after that experience. I was working with a young Japanese girl in the UK at the time who has now been my wife of 25 years. I used to talk to her a lot about Jesus and gave her books to read of Christians testimonies. Tongue’s played a major part in her conversation as it was something that really stood out to her as something real as she read people’s testimonies of coming to faith in our Lord Jesus. One night she was on her own in her room and she was asking God if this was all real and she found herself speaking in a new language! I in the background had been sensing this could be the girl the Lord was calling me to marry. I had been actually asking the Lord to give her the gift of tongues so that I would know her conversion was real (and no I don’t believe you need to pray in tongues to have the Holy Spirit), but God is so good and that is exactly what happened. As I said my wife is Japanese and is certainly not given over to emotionalism. She has been praying in tongues in her private life for 25 years too and we thank God for that gift! Is tongues used very immaturely today as it was being used in Corinth? Certainly! We need to be wise as Paul said how we use this gift in public meetings. Sad today how many believers attack and belittle this gift. I for one am very grateful for this gift and thank God regularly for it! I don’t believe in putting our personal experience above the scriptures either, but I believe the scriptures are clear Paul prayed regularly in tongues in private too and thanked God for that gift!
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 24 күн бұрын
There is not a single example in the Bible of: 1. Anyone praying tongues privately 2. The gift of tongues being a non-human language I explain both of these in the video.
@user-bi5fj3sy3i
@user-bi5fj3sy3i 24 күн бұрын
You are wrong in your understanding of this brother. If you are truly honest you have to acknowledge you can not say for sure Paul when he said ‘I thank God I pray in tongues more than all of you’ wasn’t referring to praying in tongues privately too. I know from personal experience you can’t pray in tongues lots unless you do do it in private. That’s how I know you don’t really understand what you are talking about. I’ve also interpreted my tongues in private. Go figure!
@terryhatcher7271
@terryhatcher7271 6 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 14 verse 18 says “I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than you all” and verse 19 adds “Yet IN THE CHURCH I had rather speak five words with my understanding”. So Paul differentiated between praying privately in tongues versus speaking in church. So saying this has nothing to do with a private prayer language is false.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
No, he is talking about speaking in the church WITHOUT an interpreter where no one can understand (this is the entire context of the chapter). The contrast to this is speaking in a church/public ministry WITH an interpreter, or someone who understands the tongue. This isn’t implying private tongues at all!! You’re reading that into the text when it isn’t there.
@FaithinChristJesus777
@FaithinChristJesus777 6 ай бұрын
Amen!!!
@petraalbrecht9431
@petraalbrecht9431 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, sometimes i am tired, don’t know what to pray for, when i start with tongues the spirit helps me, and it is often confirmed laterwards in a biblical way through the word, guys i know how it feels to be hurt by the church but don’t throw the bay out with the bathwater. What we need is balance.
@terryhatcher7271
@terryhatcher7271 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw he is contrasting his prayers in private (which he is saying is done in tongues) versus prophesying in the church which is public. The change was the setting as he said “Yet in the church” meaning publicly. If you don’t see it then it’s because you don’t want to.
@RabbiMurray
@RabbiMurray Ай бұрын
No he was an evangelist who actually spoke in more tongues than them .as he traveled to different countries and preached the gospel. That's why in church he would rather speak with things understandable.
@jtv_70
@jtv_70 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. This has bothered me my whole life. I was raised in the COG TN, and tongues, slain in the Spirit, and lots of hollering/shaking were part of almost every srvice. My family believes if you dont speak in tongues, your salvation is in question. Ive always thought there is something wrong with me & my relationship with the Lord because of this. I understand more now as Ive grown older, but tbh, its still in the back of my mind that my salvation is 'less than'. 😢
@harpgal9950
@harpgal9950 6 ай бұрын
Maybe consider that when you ask Jesus to save you, He is part of the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and cannot be divided or separated. If Jesus is in you, so is the Holy Spirit.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Don’t believe the lie. These are false manifestations. Stay strong in God alone!
@EternalVampi
@EternalVampi 3 ай бұрын
I was raised in a free holiness church. Lots of the expressions like you mentioned. Shaking, hollering, clapping, falling in the floor, speaking in tongues (but not actual languages, just sounds with the mouth almost like “la la la”) etc. They taught that how you know you got the Holy Ghost is if you spoke in tongues (they would use the book of Acts).
@valerier4308
@valerier4308 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for this! I learned Spanish at the age of 19 in an immersion program. I worked very hard, and am now fairly fluent. I have also studied Portuguese and German. I would love to miraculously be able to speak another language. I have always believed that "tongues" refers to languages that can be heard and understood by others.
@stephenroberts3173
@stephenroberts3173 6 ай бұрын
Why is it that when you think you’ve found an all round, sound in doctrine teacher, something pops up that disappoints and bewilders. Acts 2 doesn’t say that the tongue speakers were speaking known languages. It says ‘every man HEARD them speak in their own language’. And what about 1 Cor 14? The people were excited and like selfish little children with a new toy, so Paul had to rein them in and give them some teaching on how to conduct themselves in church with this new gift. Think of others, don’t hog the soundwaves, wait your turn, edification of others more important, wait til you get home and then talk to God, He will understand because your spirit is praying not your understanding. Brother I know you’re sincere but please hear me. You are the one who prays in tongues, not God. It’s a gift He has given you. Look at Paul’s language. Only with an interpreter, two or three at most. These imply voluntary action. It’s amazing how this is still being attacked from inside the church today. Bless you.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
There’s simply no explicit example in the Bible of anyone praying “privately” in “tongues.” Nor is there any explicit example whatsoever of tongues being anything other than communicating in another human language. This is all a recent invention. I know that you are most likely sincere, and genuinely believe that your experience is real, but sadly it’s not biblical. There are other religions and philosophies that also talk in these “babble tongues,” and believe what they are doing is real because they “feel it.” Tongues is a real gift today, but it’s not something used in private (even the praying in 1 Cor 14 is IN THE CHURCH), nor is it this form of unbiblical “babble.” It’s understood as other human languages. I know it’s hard to let go of things, but this teaching at the very least, demonstrates that there is zero example biblically of tongues used in private prayer, or spoken in a way that isn’t understood by the hearer as another human language. So the entire theology is being READ INTO THE TEXT!!
@michedaisy
@michedaisy 4 ай бұрын
It’s a very divisive issue in the church. Our ladies Bible study blew up because of this topic.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 4 ай бұрын
I’m not surprised!!!
@encouragingword1172
@encouragingword1172 23 күн бұрын
Been praying in tongues since age 16. Ive kept 50 years worth of journals of prayers answered in wonderful ways. This has mostly been private prayers in tongues done alone but have also been part of corporate prayers with other believers all praying in the Spirit. Sometimes its impossible to know how to pray about difficult situations. It is a gift from the Lord, a genuine blessing!
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 23 күн бұрын
That form of tongues is simply not-Biblical. But God can certainly move in-spite one’s false beliefs, not because of it. When we don’t know what to pray for, the Holy Spirit intercedes for us (Romans 8:26-27). This is not talking about “speaking in tongues.” So don’t need “tongues” when we don’t know what to pray for. But as I said in the video, there is no such thing, biblically, as “tongues” as a secret/private prayer language. It just does not exist in Scripture. In fact, it’s a 19th century invention!!
@righteousrebelmedia5934
@righteousrebelmedia5934 18 күн бұрын
@@lionoffireraw 1 Corinthians 14:2. King James Bible For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
@righteousrebelmedia5934
@righteousrebelmedia5934 18 күн бұрын
@@lionoffireraw most definitely is Biblical. You are 100% wrong on this.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 18 күн бұрын
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 “speaking not to men, but to God” - means that only God can understand I.e. it serves no purpose for the people in the church, without an interpreter (that’s the whole context). It’s saying this is a BAD thing, not a good thing! It’s not saying that it’s a prayer language. Babble tongues is a 19th Century invention.
@righteousrebelmedia5934
@righteousrebelmedia5934 18 күн бұрын
@@lionoffireraw wow you must have failed reading comprehension. That is not even close.
@ShepherdVerhoff
@ShepherdVerhoff 15 күн бұрын
I have a background in pentecostalism (not to be confused with "charismania"). I was more into the culture rather than the teaching, that being simplicity in lifestyle. Many do not have television in their homes which I still adhere to. They also generally require modesty in attire. They frown at jewelry which I am not strict with so long as one does not look like a tackle box. I personally do not have any jewelry, not even a tie clip. However that is a matter of personal culture rather than biblical interpretation. What they often refer to as a "holiness standard" without love is nothing more than a costume party. Years ago I heard a pentecostal minister say something to the effect "I would almost rather not see the gifts of the Spirit used than misused. This only confuses the redeemed and the lost". Then he proceeded to misuse tongues. A few minutes later a lady stood up who had a "word". She started out by saying "Yea". Everyone knows when God has a word He says "Yea" after all He always speaks in King James English. Of course I refused to accept her "word". She also had one hand raised as she moved about as though she was having a seizure. This is common among pentecostals. Respect your bought and paid for relationship with the Almighty. Don't go.
@markledf
@markledf Ай бұрын
I am very glad to hear this good teaching. It is a very good explanation. In the intentionally brief amount of time given to explain this, it is the best I have ever heard. Good job.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw Ай бұрын
I’m so glad that it blessed you. I try to make it concise and to the point! Matt 🙏
@newswaroom
@newswaroom Ай бұрын
Yes I hv the same views n i posted a few posts on my channel about the true gifts of tongues!! If anyone feels offended n they should read n understand what the Torah actually says about the tongues but unfortunately many refuse to accept the truth because of pride over their believe they are gifts of holy spirit instead of meaningless chanting!
@BirdhouseCottage
@BirdhouseCottage 6 ай бұрын
I fully agree with you, I spoke in "tongues" babling ones for over 20 years, i began seeking The Lord on this and He showed me exactly what He showed you! Now it is written that the gifts are irrevocable right? But The Lord led me to repent of babbling and so i did, they gone, i cannot even imitate them.. so then if it were a true form of tongues i doubt they would have left...also, when the disciples asked Jesus " teach us how to pray" then He being a triune God taught them what we call The Lords prayer and before He said the prayer He said don't babble like the pagans do. Now some will say that babble means to go on and on and on, well babbling in tongues is the same repetitions over and over again! These are my thoughts on it, but honestly i know when i repented of speaking in babbling tongues i was delivered of mysticism! I have learned more than i ever had before in His Word without the confusion of mysticism!
@sonialestage427
@sonialestage427 Ай бұрын
Amen! I had a similar experience...Praise the Lord!!!
@ThenSingsMySoul.
@ThenSingsMySoul. 6 ай бұрын
Yes!! I have spent the last couple of years trying to find a video that perfectly represents what I see scripturally and this is it to a t! I've always said I'm not full cessationist and I'm not fully continuationist, but really what I mean is that I don't see these gifts happening today like they were in biblical times, and what I do see happening is not biblical at all. I do believe these gifts are happening today, however I have yet to see personally, like you said, where people and churches are using the gifts in the correct and biblical order. I used to be 100% cessationist until the Lord gave me visions, and then another time when my husband spoke in tongues. It was a time our family was under severe spiritual attack, and we were all praying in the livingroom together. All of a sudden in the middle of my husband's prayer he suddenly said something in tongues, very briefly, and you could literally feel the demonic presence leave our house, like a wind rushing by us. I remember us looking at eachother like "what just happened👀" because it wasn't something he'd planned to do or had ever done in the past. But right after that we were able to find out what words he spoke, and it was in Hebrew. So yes, I totally stand with you on this. I also now believe the gifts are happening today, however it seems they are rarely happening in the biblical order and very rarely do you see it happening in such order.
@rah0785
@rah0785 4 ай бұрын
YOU are 100% correct. The only example of "speaking in tongues" is given in Acts on Pentecost day. Everyone in attendance understood everything said to them regardless of what language they spoke. The act of chanting Babel when praying is written no where in God's word. It's a tradition made up by men. Preacher starts shouting out babbling sounds when delivering a sermon do it to show off, and it does no one any good. Paul even said in Corinthians if you don't have a translator present don't prophecy. People who do this go to great lengths in twisting and adding to scriptures. Everything a Christian does should be done to glorify God and spread his message. Babeling tongues accomplish nothing and do no one any good.❤️🤟🏼✌🏼💪🏼🙏🏼
@RoBert-c4z
@RoBert-c4z 4 ай бұрын
2:31 oh wow … nah that’s wrong …you should go down to where Paul then says “a man who speaks in a tongue edifies himself…” and Paul spoke in tongues more than anyone… the only limit to tongues was in the public setting, where prophesy was preferred - but what he was saying that by yourself let loose and pray in tongues, coz you’re speaking in the spirit and edifying yourself!
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 4 ай бұрын
There is not a single example in the Bible of anyone praying in tongues on their own. Not even one. Nor is there a single example of tongues being anything other than a known human language. This video demonstrates all of this.
@HanejimaYT
@HanejimaYT 6 ай бұрын
GOD LOVES YOU! dont be ashamed of God and He shall not be ashamed of you! AMEN!
@sabrinacarmody4939
@sabrinacarmody4939 3 ай бұрын
Speaking in tongues is real
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 3 ай бұрын
I agree. The real tongues of other human languages still exists today. Babble tongues is false though.
@grahamlucas1915
@grahamlucas1915 23 сағат бұрын
Corinth is a port. People speaking in foreign languages would find where the local believers met and take part in the meeting in a language unknown to the locals. Paul was giving instructions for this situation. So simple!
@auntytreenie3865
@auntytreenie3865 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this clear explanation based totally on the Word. There are so few genuine Bible teachers like you around these days. You are right up there with Martyn Iles, Paul Washer, and a few others I trust, with a solid faith based on the scriptures. I am very thankful for your ministry. May God bless you for the difference you are making in people’s lives.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
God bless you. Thank you so much. I’m glad these videos are helpful. Matt 🙏
@Rebander1549
@Rebander1549 6 ай бұрын
I grew up in a charismatic church and moved away from this practice of speaking in "tongues " because I found it confusing, scary and a block to my relationship with Jesus. It seemed to me that it was meant for good in the scripture but in using it in life it became something else. So I moved away from my roots and I am glad that I did.
@suegill3865
@suegill3865 6 ай бұрын
This is a contentious issue but you have confirmed my understanding with great clarity. Thank you.
@susananderson9124
@susananderson9124 6 ай бұрын
God bless you sister Sue, good to see you.
@suegill3865
@suegill3865 6 ай бұрын
​You continue to bring a smile to my face. What a wonderful blessing it is to be part of this body, loving and supporting each other as we continue on our journey in Christ. God bless you too Susan. ​@@susananderson9124
@suegill3865
@suegill3865 6 ай бұрын
@@susananderson9124 Lovely to see you Susan as we journey forward together in the body of Christ. Many blessings to you too.
@annetteava9008
@annetteava9008 2 ай бұрын
I agree with much of what you have said. It's hard to know what tongues are actually from the true Holy Spirit. When GOD brought me out of multiple doctrines: charismatic, Hebrew Roots, and new age, He gave me a dream about a serpent spirit with the name "kundalini". I didn’t know what that was. GOD showed me over the time after that what that spirit is. He revealed the Kundalini and Shekinah false spirits to me and freed me from those doctrines. Satan comes as an angel of light and his ministers as ministers of righteousness. This false spirit can make you feel so good and so peaceful. But eventually after a time, you will start to have different kinds of torment in your life and body. In many false religions there are kinds of "tongues" with these two spirits as the spirit behind them. I stopped speaking in tongues because I didn’t want it to be possibly bringing back a false spirit.
@sonialestage427
@sonialestage427 Ай бұрын
Amen! I also stopped while i was sick and i didn't understand why the need to speak in tongues went away during my sickness..I asked Holy Spirit to teach me the truth about tongues cause i began to have doubts about it...i studied the bible in context for the first time...repented and never felt the need to go back..I wasn't sure about the spirit behind it cause it felt good but i knew i wasn't giving honor to the Holy Spirit ...Had a lack of humility and was becoming more prideful...I thank God for teaching me the truth..The lord chastises those he loves...Glory to God!!!
@Godestablishes
@Godestablishes 6 ай бұрын
How can a person know if he/she has the true gift of tongues? Since he/she does not understand it?
@BoldFollower
@BoldFollower 6 ай бұрын
I used to think this way. Tongues and healings are the two gifts that are mentioned clearly as plural, meaning there are a bunch of different versions and variations. No wonder they are the two most controversial and hardest to understand. We disagree, but I won’t get into details because it’s not good to argue over disputable matters. I hope you’re blessed brother.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Tongues plural simply means different human languages. Not all speak the same tongue/language when exercising the gift. Someone might speak Spanish, someone else might speak Chinese.
@BoldFollower
@BoldFollower 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw thanks for your opinion! I used to think the same. Keep moving forward for the Kingdom! Bless you bro!
@antonspanton6264
@antonspanton6264 2 ай бұрын
You are 100% right stay blesses brother
@juliatamalo7916
@juliatamalo7916 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insightful explanation, Matt. I used to pray in words, until one day attended this Charismatic church. They encouraged us to "get" the speaking in tounge. I got it one day, but i believe it was me praying in Holy Spirit. There was a time when Isomebody interpreted it for the prayer leader. However, i had no idea how they could understand it. Thank you again. Glad that you brought up the topic to bring discernment. God bless you abundantly 🙏🏻🎉
@Seventh-day
@Seventh-day 6 ай бұрын
Another important video Matt. Those in the charismatic movement need to heed your message. It is sad that those who do not speak in tongues are considered by Charismatics, as not to have received the gift of the Holy Spirit. God does not need to have Believers speak in some 'heavenly' language, He is *perfectly happy for us to speak to Him in the language of our nationality. I have heard in very *rare dangerous situations, some Believers have been able to communicate in the language necessary to resolve a situation, - a language unknown to them, - but an earthly language. These are miracle situations, endowed by God.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏 Well said!
@nettym1457
@nettym1457 Ай бұрын
Not long after I was saved I attended a Christian camp where some were speaking in tongues. I asked for the gift but couldn’t do it.. I tried for days on my own and it was just babble. However when I got back to work I told a co-worker (who was a Baptist) about the camp and how I’d asked for this gift. She basically rebuked me and said the gift of tongues was not of God. I was confused as the people I knew who had this gift were beautiful genuine Christians. I excused myself and went to the bathroom and said to God ‘God if this gift is truly from you please will you show me?’ And right then and there I spoke in tongues. It was not of me as I’d tried many times on my own to do it. It was a completely new language that flowed effortlessly. I thanked God for showing me the truth, that the gift of tongues was indeed of and from Him. In saying that I have heard many people who speak in ‘tongues’ and it sounds like utter gibberish. I don’t believe everyone who thinks they have the gift necessary do.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw Ай бұрын
Something similar happened with me, but then I realised that it was a false manifestation. This type of tongues doesn’t align up with what the Bible teaches! It’s easy to deceive ourselves with experiences.
@adriennedunne1748
@adriennedunne1748 19 күн бұрын
I happened to call it gibberish, referring to this 'speaking in tongues' when my then pastor called me unkind for saying so. There was only me and possibly my late sister there at the time. I try to be kind, but I believe that truth is more important. The Biblical speaking in tongues clearly referred to known languages of the time. People from different places in the Roman Empire understood what the disciples were saying about God. They couldn't have if it was just gibberish as Kenneth Copeland and his ilk try to persuade people to believe. Funny, I was just reading about this earlier today in Acts.
@zmoorer
@zmoorer 6 ай бұрын
Well presented and God bless you!
@melkadis
@melkadis Ай бұрын
People need to compare kundilani from hindu with speaking in tongues as the church of God do etc. Real interesting likeness between the two
@LezelSchoeman
@LezelSchoeman 3 ай бұрын
Amen and Shalom my brother ❤🙏 I agree. Thank you
@RoBert-c4z
@RoBert-c4z 4 ай бұрын
3:07 oh whaat? How are you seeing that?! Read it for what it is man … it’s straightforward. He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself - what does edify mean? It means to encourage and build Up and strengthen!
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 4 ай бұрын
Paul uses ironic speech all the time. See Philemon. See also where Paul calls the false prophets “super apostles.” Or when he calls himself a “fool.”
@RoBert-c4z
@RoBert-c4z 2 ай бұрын
I thought it was no point to reply, but ya know what, ironic speech is exactly what you said - Paul calling himself a fool sarcastically or something, knowing the opposite is true. That is the example of ironic speech. The tongues being used as edification simply is NOT ironic speech. How is ironic speech used here at all? It’s not sarcastic, he doesn’t mean the opposite at all. Like I said, it’s straightforward and plain and should in this case be taken literally.
@chrisjohnson9542
@chrisjohnson9542 6 ай бұрын
Matt, your story is very similar to mine. I could "speak in tongues" when I was a brand new believer. Thought it was a prayer language but I realized that I was just making sounds and it felt wrong. I told the Lord I was just going to pray in English because He knew English and that if He wanted me to speak in tongues then He would reveal it to me in His word. However the more I studied the more I became convinced that tongues were not a private prayer language but a real actual language. I am now a cessationist in the sense of the sign gifts being for the apostolic foundation of the church.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
I agree with most of that, although the Bible doesn’t make the distinctions apostolic gifts. 1 Corinthians 13 is clear that the gifts will pass away (including tongues and prophecy) when “the perfect comes.” This is referring to our glorified state with Christ “when we will see in FULL.” But I have never seen those gifts in operation. Sadly there are many fake manifestations, but that doesn’t change what 1 Corinthians 13 tells us.
@orianamason8049
@orianamason8049 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the clear explanation. I used to belong in a Pentecostal but never spoke in tongues even though every one around me babbled
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@snakejumper3277
@snakejumper3277 12 күн бұрын
I have a native Spanish speaking friend who was invited to attend a Pentecostal service by a lady he was dating. He's Catholic, I'm Baptist but he was asking for advice. I encouraged him to go & when people started "speaking in tongues" he should start shouting en español. He went only once & I was sorely disappointed that he never tried that.
@vonn2221
@vonn2221 6 ай бұрын
I have 2 different experience speaking tongue The first church i go there is charismatic in teenager age, and i remember faking it by mimicking other coz everybody speaking tongue and they told me they can speak it after baptize Then when years afterward i join a prayer group once and i suddenly felt 2 finger grabbing my chin and move my mouth so hard and i speaking tongue language, i also try speaking normal way while at it but the voice that come out of my mouth is different sound So i believe in tongue as something real and possible, it just you can fake it if you joining church or community that not stand in word truthfully If God truly let you can speak in it let it be, but like what Paul said, it's better to have someone interpreting it, because if not you are not edifying anyone but yourself, so better just pray silently And after that i never encounter speaking tongue anymore that as powerful like that
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 6 ай бұрын
There is absolutely nothing mysterious about Biblical "tongues" - and there is only one type - when referring to something spoken, they are nothing more than real, rational language(s); usually, but not always, unknown to those listening to them, but always known by the speaker(s) - it’s their native language (in some cases, it is a language the speaker has learned). In contrast, the “tongues” Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are producing today is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speaker’s native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with or have had contact with. It is, in part, typically characterized by repetitive syllables, plays on sound patterns, alliteration, assonance, and over-simplification of syllable structure. It is also interesting to note that any and all phonological rules (rules governing how sounds are put together in a given language - what is allowed and what is disallowed) governing a speaker's native language, will _also_ govern their tongues-speech. Further, this subset of phonemes mentioned above typically contains only those sounds which are easiest to produce physiologically. Occasionally some speakers will use two or more subsets of phonemes to generate glossolalia, producing what, to them, sounds like two (or more) distinct “tongues languages”, thus claiming to be able to speak in “divers tongues”. There is absolutely _nothing_ that “tongues-speakers” are producing that cannot be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms. Conversely, when it comes to something spoken, there are absolutely _no_ Biblical references to “tongues” that do not refer to, and cannot be explained in light of, real rational language(s), though it may not be the explanation you want to hear, and it may be one which is radically different from what you believe, or were taught. _Nowhere in the Bible is modern tongues-speech advocated or evidenced._ “Praying in the Spirit” does _not_ refer to the words one is saying. Rather, it refers to how one is praying. In the three places it is used (Corinthians, Ephesians, and Jude), there is absolutely zero reference to 'languages' in connection with this phrase. “Praying in the Spirit” should be understood as praying in the power of the Spirit, by the leading of the Spirit, and according to His will. I'm not doubting or questioning the 'tongues experience'; glossolalia as the spiritual tool that it is, can be very powerful and, for many people, the experience is profound. As one commenter put it, “Speaking in tongues distracts the ego/analytical/conscious mind while leaving the subconscious (the heart) wide open to import the divine." Both the spiritual and physical benefits of using this tool are also well documented. Again though, it is important to note that this same statement can be made for virtually _any_ other culture that practices glossolalia. Religious and cultural differences aside, the glossolalia an Evenki Shaman in Siberia, a vodoun priestess in Togo and a Christian tongues-speaker in Alabama are producing are in no way different from each other. They’re all producing their glossolalia in the exact same way; they just have different explanations and beliefs as to why they’re doing it, and where it comes from. It is only in certain Christian denominations where is it construed as something it never was. ‘Tongues’ (read, *‘languages’* ) - the divine gift, is the God given ability to effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy, nor is it modern tongues-speech. As an aside, I am a linguist and do not identify as either a so-called continuationist or cessationist. Since Biblical tongues refer to real, rational languages, obviously "tongues" have not ceased - as dar as I can tell, people still speak.
@TVHouseHistorian
@TVHouseHistorian 6 ай бұрын
Matt, I’ve been praying in tongues solely in my prayer times since 1999… you just blew my mind tonight.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for being open and honest. What are your thoughts now? How did this video impact you?
@TVHouseHistorian
@TVHouseHistorian 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw Well first of all, this is the first time I’ve ever heard a professing continuationist reject the “prayer language” concept when referencing tongues. To be honest, I don’t know if I’m ready to believe your exegesis on that. But I will be praying. For years, there was a certain effortlessness when I would pray in tongues in the context of my prayer time. I was encouraged to do so by my disciplers. I experienced many supernatural occurrences and deliverances during these times that pointed directly to scripture, and remember feeling so unbelievably blessed. Times where I struggled with sin so bad, I would break out the tongues, and a praise and worship song or Bible verse would pop out, and it was tremendously encouraging and got my mind back on the Lord… and to think I could have been influenced by something like the Kundalini spirit seems quite shocking. For years, I had friends who were 5-point Calvinists insist I was only speaking babble, that tongues are not for today, and the tongues I spoke were not biblical. I wanted to believe them, but couldn’t, because these people were *SO* dogmatic. No truth in love whatsoever. The words that come out of my mouth when I pray in tongues are not babble, but are languages I’ve been able to identify over the years as I’ve become exposed to Hebrew and Greek translations of the Bible, and as I’ve come in contact with native speakers of those languages. But these are only experiential “evidences.” They are not proof. The Bible is proof of what is true and not true. Still, there is one experience involving the private use of tongues I would like to share with you that stood out to me. Okay, so we can all agree that the doctrines of “slain in the spirit” and being “drunk” in the Holy Spirit are false (I’ve denounced the charismatic church and most of its doctrine by the way). Well, one morning I was excited to spend time with the Lord, and of course, tongues eventually came into play, and gradually as things came to a lull, my body began to go dead weight. I thought I was being pressed into the bed I was kneeling against. Pretty soon, I lay silent, feeling TONS of peace, I go to stand upright, and I stumble around like a drunk person. I telephone one of my friends, slurring my words like a weirdo, and they were like, “Scott, it sound to me like you’re drunk in the Holy Spirit.” The only time I’d ever witnessed that sort of thing was in church meetings and I really didn’t think anything of it. It just was whatever it was. Then to have it happen to me during a time I’m genuinely trying to spend time seeking the presence of God-ALONE- was quite startling (I lived with a group of raging alcoholics at the time and was incredibly uncomfortable. Definitely seeking God and his comfort). Anyway, to look back on that and think I could have been under the influence of a demonic spirit makes me feel a little betrayed by God. Why would he send these charismatic Christians into my life to mentor me, only for me to become deceived? By the way, I was not fooled by their doctrine on female pastors. They were very dogmatic about that, and I smelled a rat, as I did with the word of faith stuff that they would sometimes spout off. My parents didn’t go to church, and these people were responsible for bringing me up in the ways of the Lord. I now renounce the charismatic church, and feel quite bitter for having been influenced by them. After they began ordaining women, they began sliding leftward, and now suddenly homosexuality (a sin I’ve repented of) is okay… or at least, they don’t like to dwell on that subject. *All* 3 of the people have become deceived, and one even died having gone back to his sin. I was orphaned so to speak, and these are people who the Lord used to develop my prayer life and my doctrine. Jesus used to be God in the charismatic church. Now humans are god. I know I already said it, but I have to say again that I feel very betrayed, and not sure what to believe now about the doctrine of tongues. It’s quite unsettling, really. Jesus is still my Savior and my God. The essential doctrines are settled as far as I’m concerned. Just really upset at being jerked around by Foursquare and Assemblies of God (I don’t mind calling them out, as they are apostate, and need to be marked and avoided). Sorry for the soliloquy. My real name is Scott. I live in the states.
@TVHouseHistorian
@TVHouseHistorian 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw Sorry, by the way, about the “drunk in the Spirit” part. I’ve never felt more at peace and carefree than that day. It was a very scary time for me, as I was living with drunks, and I wanted to know the Lord was there. I couldn’t have cared less about some kind of kooky “experience.” I wasn’t interested in that. As the years wore on, I became sick of the wet noodle doctrines that the charismatic church was teaching, and finally found a great church that teaches expositorally. Anyway, I have thought in recent years that while slain in the Spirit and “drunk” in the Spirit are indeed false doctrines, they do seem to be experiences that parallel with a lot of scripture. I just wonder if, when the Lord wants to punctuate a Biblical principle in the life of a believer, perhaps these things do happen? I won’t die on that battlefield, by the way. Lol
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for opening up. It sounds like you’ve been able to identify a number of these false doctrines, despite pressure to the contrary from people in those churches. I also reject those doctrines, and I also reject Calvinism too. It is completely unbiblical. It’s actually insane, and perverts the character of God. I don’t believe in such things as being drunk in the spirit. One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self-control, so it makes no sense that someone would be stumbling around and slurring words if they were under the influence of the Holy Spirit. I don’t think those experiences have any parallels with the experiences in the Bible, if you look closely. You certainly shouldn’t feel betrayed by God. All sorts of people come across our path, and it’s up to us to be able to discern truth from error. His Spirit has helped you to discern much error already. Sadly many people get stuck in this type of error their whole lives. As for tongues, I just don’t see it as a private prayer language, biblically. It seems to me like people have injected their own theology into the text. IMO, those passages are easily interpreted without anything to do with a private prayer language. I guess there are some things for you to consider and to pray about after watching this video.
@jannaswanson271
@jannaswanson271 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw I only use my gift of tongues as a private prayer language. "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." I Corinthians 14:2. I have been to the Pentecostal churches and was so uneasy that I left the church for 20 years. Just because people act that way does not make the word wrong.
@luciaimparato9390
@luciaimparato9390 3 ай бұрын
Wow, Matt thanks for sharing this with me! I've always wished I can speak in tongues and also hear God's audible voice, but ive known other people to speak in tongues and hearing God's audible voice!
@Metoyou465
@Metoyou465 6 ай бұрын
Thankfully God has revealed these things to babes and kept it from the “wise”. This is a very intellectual argument but is lacking the conviction and leading of the Holy Spirit. I will keep speaking in tongues in private and when the Spirit leads. God bless.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Replace intellectual with biblical. What people call Holy Spirit led often simply means emotionalism. Charismatic tongues is a theology invented around 1900.
@Metoyou465
@Metoyou465 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw dogma with no conviction, a few scriptures taken out of context, an intellectual interpretation of scripture and little love only amplifies how deceived many are, when they could be encouraging the body to press in and walk in the gifts, to be led by the Holy Spirit, they choose rather to justify their unbelief and walk in arrogance and try to convince others that their beliefs are superior. What the western body of Christ needs is serious persecution to come and purify the church until everyone rejoices when someone steps out in faith and walks in obedience to the Word instead of trying to find out what they are doing wrong so that they can criticize and amplify their errors instead of Jesus.
@FaithinChristJesus777
@FaithinChristJesus777 6 ай бұрын
@@Metoyou465well said!
@MoonPhaze5
@MoonPhaze5 6 ай бұрын
This is about the speaker/s knowing a language other than that of the congregation: 1 Corinthians 14:7 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. For example: If a man (or men) came from Italy to China, and did not have the gift of tongues to speak Mandarin, he/they ought to have a person to interpret.
@RoBert-c4z
@RoBert-c4z 4 ай бұрын
4:11 seriously? Paul said he prayed it more than anyone, and that meant he prayed it alone, seeing he was the one teaching that he doesn’t want people speaking in tongues in the church in the public setting, but prophesy - this by implication meant that he MUST have spoke it alone in prayer to God. It’s the only logical conclusion
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 4 ай бұрын
1. It never said Paul prayed it alone. 2. He wants ORDER in the way it’s prayed in church. He is saying that without that order (which is the entire reason he is writing this chapter), it is better for prophecy to be spoken, because without interpretation the tongues is meaningless. That’s his entire point!!
@RoBert-c4z
@RoBert-c4z 4 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw 1. He didn’t have to say it, but it’s clearly implied. 2. I do agree that’s the point of the passage for church use. However what ur missing is that Paul is giving a two-fold message - Paul is saying yes, order in the church, but alone pray to God in tongues in the spirit, because he does it all the time. We can argue all day I’m sure, and we will get nowhere. That’s my standpoint and most of the churches also. Not sure where you get your indoctrination from, but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the matter. Be blessed …
@Walter-Ross
@Walter-Ross 6 ай бұрын
Tongues are biblical, but the church uses it in the wrong manner. If you speak tongues in public, you must have an interpreter. Otherwise, it is between you and God in a different language God understands. You can speak in tongues to Gon in private. 1 Corinthians 14:27-28
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
I explain those verses in the video.
@sissyrae9549
@sissyrae9549 6 ай бұрын
When I first got saved, my husband and I went to a church, and I wasn't aware that it was Pentecostal. We went for a few weeks and nothing odd happened, my husband even got saved in that church. But the last time we went, I practically ran out of there. From the moment we got there, I had a major conflict going on inside me that I just couldn't shake. Believe me, I tried, because I started feeling guilty for having the urge to leave. I became nauseous, had a headache, and something inside of me kept saying, "You don't want to be here, you have to leave." I couldn't figure out why I was feeling that way. So during the worship service, while most of the congregation was standing and singing, I sat down and prayed. I asked God, is this Your Holy Spirit trying to tell me something? Or is it my human nature or Satan trying to push me out? I asked for His guidance, and I thanked Him. As I was getting to the end of my prayers, the pastor went up front and told the congregation that he could feel the Holy Spirit moving through, that he has the gift of speaking in tongues, knows a few others who have the gift, and then he started speaking a whole other language. I KNEW at that moment that I had to get out of there. I started urgently hitting my husband's arm and told him, "We gotta GO." We left immediately. I was shaking like a leaf and I felt like crying, and I have NEVER had that experience in church before. It shook me to my core, and I'll never forget it. Within minutes of us leaving, I felt perfectly fine. Strangest church experience of my life.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Well done for leaving!! So much nonsense going on these days!!
@shaunhunterit342
@shaunhunterit342 6 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be taking charge over your husband like that. He is biblically the leader in your marriage. If it comes to the point of you physically hitting him it doesn't sound like you were leaving room for him to play his role at all.
@GregRickard
@GregRickard 6 ай бұрын
​@@shaunhunterit342theoretically he could have told her no if he disagreed. Maybe he was already feeling it and that was cobfitmation...
@shaunhunterit342
@shaunhunterit342 6 ай бұрын
@@GregRickard I wouldn't take my wife hitting me in the arm as confirmation of anything but her disrespect
@tammymoore859
@tammymoore859 6 ай бұрын
@@shaunhunterit342God gives all His children gifts. This one the woman has is discernment. Maybe her husband has a different one. That being said, she is definitely permitted to use her gift even with her husband. If I waited for my husband to use his discernment, which isn’t a gift of his, we would have been in a lot of “spiritual” danger, especially with our children. I’ve had to step up a lot in over 27 years and use my discernment to protect our family. Also, the husband needs to listen to his wife’s warnings while going thru life. That’s how God created a woman. She has instincts that he doesn’t. If he can’t listen to her, that’s called pride.
@chrisrae00
@chrisrae00 6 ай бұрын
Guys, if you are ignorant of spiritual things, rather than trying to justify your unbelief, seek God, and ask Him to show you the truth. Good articulation does not not equal spiritual wisdom. The disciples in the upper room didn't have a bible to check that it was the Holy Spirit when He came with power. They trusted in the person of Jesus, and in the personal relationship they had with Him. Don't get caught in legalism, but always test the spirits. Shalom
@chrisrae00
@chrisrae00 6 ай бұрын
Be very careful what you are saying on this topic. People are seeking Jesus with all their hearts, they hunger to be close to Him and the Holy Spirit is drawing these people, to go and pray (in tongues) and seek His face. If you have doubt, seek God yourself, don't come with a self-righteous attitude that you know better, when your heart is far from God.
@chrisrae00
@chrisrae00 6 ай бұрын
God will hold you accountable for every word.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
We need to be biblical, not speak gibberish! Don’t be so ready to seek false manifestations just because you want a manifestation.
@FaithinChristJesus777
@FaithinChristJesus777 6 ай бұрын
The Bible doesn’t tell us to seek the bible with all of our hearts, it instructs us to seek the LORD with all of our hearts. The bible is just a dead letter unless the Holy Spirit himself gives revelation. Why do you think the pharisees knew scripture but were dead white wash tombs?!
@RoiNBoI
@RoiNBoI 6 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 4:6 “Do not go beyond what is written.” 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. I have a question - how are pagans (without the Holy Spirit) able to replicate the so called tounges, partial healings and not 100% accurate prophecies?
@Junk-t6v
@Junk-t6v 18 сағат бұрын
It is a gift to be able to speak in more than one human language so, as Paul said, to edify or share the gospel. Tongues equals human understandable languages not gibberish.
@pamelamiller9519
@pamelamiller9519 6 ай бұрын
This is very interesting!! I always thought it was a language that was already a known language.
@nathanielriesterer9103
@nathanielriesterer9103 3 күн бұрын
This video is well done. Thanks
@annaliesebartsch3556
@annaliesebartsch3556 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking on this. While I do believe the gift of tongues is still in use and have spoken in genuine tongues when God has commanded me, I just cannot be around those who claim to have this spiritual gift yet speak without an interpreter. My worst experience was when I was in a young adult group session at a church I thought God may want me to attend, and the group leader started speaking in what she supposed was tongues. Within 30 seconds I felt this demonic, hateful thing lunge at me from where she was sitting, and felt it try to hurt me. To this day I still don't entirely know what to make of that experience and of that person's faith, but I do know with absolute certainty that that spiritual entity was not of God and that it wanted to hurt me, but God protected me and made it very clear that He did not want me there.
@JoashReid
@JoashReid 3 ай бұрын
wrong bro...paul says i thank my God that i speak in tongues more than you all...and then says but in the church I would rather speak five words with my mind So that tells me 1. He thanks God that he speaks in tongues 2. He makes a contrast between speaking in tongues to himself versus what he does when he is in church (which tells me that he speaks in tongues at time when he is not in the church or privately and infact according to the scriptures he speaks in tongues regularly in times when he is not in church and he thanks God for it) 3. If paul, when he said of there is no intepreter you should speak to your self and to God.....if he meant the previous paraphrased statement as a sacarstic and condescending way ..then why would reference the fact he speaks in tongues when he is not in church more than them ...and the fact that he says "more than you all" means that he was speaking in tongues like the Corinthians and more than them but the only difference is he did it privately... 4. And when the bible says "he that speaketh in an unknown tongue" the bible is not saying this in a sacarstic way, the bible means what it says there is a language that Comes from the Lord Jesus Christ that people dont understood and it does edify the individual speaking in that unkown tongues, however it is selfish to be edifying one self in church where the will of God is that all be edified .....so i strongly disagree with your statements bro.....
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 2 ай бұрын
He’s saying without an interpreter, he’d rather speak 5 words. That’s the context. Unknown tongue, is a tongue foreign to the speaker (another language). Paul does use sarcasm too. Eg. When he calls his opponents “super apostles.”
@ShaneLawrence-ri6ph
@ShaneLawrence-ri6ph 6 ай бұрын
How was your day today my brother in Christ Jesus 💘🙏 I pray for you 😇🙏
@gladrock9
@gladrock9 13 күн бұрын
I agree that tongues should not be spoken in church without interpreting. I was in a relationship with a very straight shooter person who said she could interpret tongues (she did not make it publicly known). She said she could see the image of the words being written in a different language when spoken, of which she could read and understand. She could interpret a few people which most was very repetitive phrases, while the majority of people she said made up gibberish. Make of this what you will.
@thegrey8643
@thegrey8643 6 ай бұрын
I sometimes feel compelled to pray in the metaphor of songs, but it can be understood through the hearts of others and I’m open to explain it to those I pray with/for this way.
@vincefahey5370
@vincefahey5370 6 ай бұрын
Thanks I enjoy your comments, I have herd my son twice speak in tongues one with a interpreter one not, I don't really care seems like if you can't do its a second class citizen, he does not vote an tight with money to the poor, an a unbelievenally wife, Vince
@Ms.noelp453
@Ms.noelp453 6 ай бұрын
This is perfect example of a dialogue (false tongues) between Fred Flintstone and Scooby Doo if they get into a traffic accident.
@fredarroyo7429
@fredarroyo7429 6 ай бұрын
Yeah you keep saying “ the whole purpose of tongues is for the church” but the passage is not saying that. The passage is saying edification of others is better , so be zealous for the edification of others in the church , not that tongues for the private individual is not the purpose of tongues. You keep doing this but are going beyond the text
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
There’s no explicit biblical example of anyone praying in tongues privately. Nor is there any example of tongues being anything other than a human language. That’s all inserted to the text by people who believe in babble tongues. These points are proven in the video.
@Dalekzilla
@Dalekzilla 6 ай бұрын
One of the very few videos you've done that I totally agree with. Very nicely done.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Very few? 😂 Why are you watching me then?! 😝
@Dalekzilla
@Dalekzilla 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw Truthfully? You make me laugh sometimes.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Haha 😂 In what way?
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 6 ай бұрын
you are 100% wrong... when a child speaks jiberish, do you scold him and try to cast a demon out of him? Or do you love him and speak to him. I know by the presence of the spirit That you are wrong. I thought it was stupid my self until I was alone and tried it in prayer and felt the presence of the holy spirit increase and increase and increase. 1 Corinthians 2:14 The natural man does not receive the things of the spirit for to him they are foolishness neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned. you should take this video down because it will discourage people from spending time with the lord if this is how they pray, At least they are praying.
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 6 ай бұрын
@@josephpchajek2685 I dont care what you think it tells you, I trust the holy spirit more than my carnal thinking.
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 6 ай бұрын
@@josephpchajek2685 on another note, I am curious how you came to know Christ as savior, what is your testimony, I love testimonies.
@A2J_Tim
@A2J_Tim 6 ай бұрын
@@josephpchajek2685 He is wonderful isn't he.. When I think about what hes done for me I shed a tear every time.
@crazydays4444
@crazydays4444 6 ай бұрын
the last 4 comments between you two, were both edifying, and God honoring. I can relate with Him coming to us first. Scripture teaches such. As I was not in a building or with any other person, but The Spirit led me to the foot of Christ's Cross in a dirt field at the start of night. Thank you two members of the body of Christ, for your godly example of "and they shall know you are Mine, by your love for one for another"
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
If a child speaks gibberish, you may not scold them, but you still recognise it as gibberish.
@marlenevanderwesthuizen4274
@marlenevanderwesthuizen4274 6 ай бұрын
Be careful for the jokes that you make.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t make any joke!
@chummleslee351
@chummleslee351 6 ай бұрын
What's wrong with jokes? Elijah joked and mocked Ahab and Baal. Micaiah mocked Ahab with a fabulously sarcastic joke. Joking not always bad.
@Artiek23
@Artiek23 6 ай бұрын
​@chummleslee351 PROVERBS 26:18-19 “Like a maniac shooting flaming arrows of death is one who deceives their neighbor and says, ‘I was only joking!'” EPHESIANS 5:4 “Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.“ EPHESIANS 4:29 “Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.” Think twice before saying or even joking about something, because for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36
@neortik7
@neortik7 6 ай бұрын
@@Artiek23thanks for the reminder
@zbikar
@zbikar 6 ай бұрын
There are 3 cases of speaking in tongues in Acts. All spoke in the same time. No interpretations in any of those cases. Exactly as in modern pentecostal churches
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
No mention of any language other than human language.
@PulpitoftheLastDays
@PulpitoftheLastDays 4 ай бұрын
Hello Matt (I finally heard your name on a video. I'm Loren.) I share many of your concerns over tongues, but I'm keen not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. If someone is genuinely speaking in tongues, but they're speaking in strife; and someone else is sincerely trying to please God, but it doesn't sound real -- which one do you think God would respect more? As a young Christian, I became interested in speaking in tongues, but I prayed God would give me interpretation also, so I would know I wasn't kidding myself. He gave me eight lines, and I wrote it all down. I have a background in languages and also in cryptology, so even though I didn't know what it said, I could tell it was a real language. I even began to work out some of its grammatical rules and some basic sentence structure. After a few days, I felt that that God gave me the interpretation of the first line only. Then the second, etc, one line at a time. When I reached the last line my hearts nearly sank, because I suddenly realized that one of my rules and the interpreted words on that line, if they were true, would also have appeared back in the first line - and by then the dye was cast. Imagine my astonishment when I saw that everything still held up perfectly. I shared the message in my group the next time we met. Now I will admit that I am still shy over tongues, because there is so much abuse. But here's a couple more points based on Human limitations. It takes a tremendous amount of faith to interpret, when you know that someone else in the room may understand this tongue as their natural language, and contradict you. Second. When someone does speak out and you feel you have the interpretation, they need to allow you the space for it. I well recall once when someone was speaking in tongues, and I knew that I knew I was getting every word of it, and I was ready -- but then he kept going and going, and never shut up. I just couldn't keep up with all that, to remember so long a message in one take. After a while, the quality dropped off into some sort of babbling, but still kept going -- but the damage was done. The opportunity was lost. One of the chiefest dangers I see in tongues and interpretation, is the mistaken notion that tongues are the same thing as prophecy. So the interpretation comes out, "Yea, My Children thus says the Lord." But this cannot possibly be the case, since 'He who speaks in an unknown tongues speaks not unto men, but unto God." The danger appears because, unlike prophecy which is judged, interpretations that come forth as a word from God that is not being judged. I am under the impression that if we take God seriously in the safeguards He applies with spiritual gifts, then we will see just how seriously He works through them. When I look comprehensively at what the Bible says about tongues, I reached the conclusion that, structurally speaking, they are similar to psalms. They 'declare the mighty works of God,' they 'bless in the spirit.' they 'give thanks well.,' This is why their interpretation edifies the church; and this is why the individual still feels edified in his spirit, even without the interpretation (a point on which we do disagree.) In fact, Paul says that we may simply share a psalm in our natural language, just as we would share a spiritual gift. No one seems to do that any more, but it's really beautiful when they do. You made many fine points in this video. It's hard being controversial. Thanks for making it.
@cpnlsn88
@cpnlsn88 Ай бұрын
I just add one thing. The framework for speaking an unknown language is speaking to God. When we speak to God we are either speaking in praise, thanksgiving or supplication. If supplication either general (those suffering) or specific (uncle John who is sick). In my experience I have never heard an interpretation of a person speaking to God. The interpretation has always been a de facto prophecy. But if a prophecy, then there's no relationship to the message in tongues, which isn't understood - the message infact comes de novo and is no different from actual prophecy.
@MatthewStephenson-523
@MatthewStephenson-523 2 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:2 undeniably proves you wrong. This verse is saying that NO man understands what you are saying. So that undeniably means it is not an earthly language. So are you saying the Word of God is lying? “For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14‬:‭2‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “So, my dear brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14‬:‭39‬ ‭NLT‬‬ “Do not stifle the Holy Spirit. Do not scoff at prophecies,” ‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5‬:‭19‬-‭20‬ ‭NLT‬‬
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 2 ай бұрын
Amen. This is talking about the true biblical tongues, not the man-made babble tongues!
@MatthewStephenson-523
@MatthewStephenson-523 2 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw There is two true Biblical tongues that I know of. The tongues where you speak in an unknown earthly language like in Acts 2. And tongues where you speak in an unknown heavenly language that only God and the Holy Spirit knows like in 1 Corinthians 14. God and the Bible is right and nothing and nobody can go against God and the Bible or prove them wrong. So sorry but according to the Bible you are wrong.
@Anthonytp2010
@Anthonytp2010 6 ай бұрын
Tongues is biblical. Those who say tongues are not biblical are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Don't be fooled. Read your Bible
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
I agree tongues are biblical. True tongues in another language are biblical. Not the babble we see in many churches today. I proved that in this video.
@Anthonytp2010
@Anthonytp2010 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw there are different types of tongues. When a person is praying in tongues there's no need for interpretation because you are speaking directly to God. But when a person speaks tongues in church then interpretation is needed. There are different types of tongues. It's the Holy Spirit speaking through us. Don't say tongues is fake just because it sounds like chibberish to you. Not all tongues are the same
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
There is no biblical example of praying alone in tongues, or anything other than tongues as another human language. Nothing about this in the Bible, as the video explains. People might be sincere when praying in “babble tongues” but they are sincerely misguided. I know they want it to be true because they “feel” something. But it’s a man made doctrine. It’s simply not in the Bible, as I’ve demonstrated in this video!
@Anthonytp2010
@Anthonytp2010 6 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw 1 Corinthians 14:14 for if I pray in an unknown tongue my spirit prayeth but my understanding is unfruitful. 1 Corinthians 14:2 for he that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks unto God for no man understands him howbeit in the spirit he speaks mysteries. The Bible does talk about praying in tongues. Paul did it often. You need to know the scripture before you preach something.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
@@Anthonytp2010 this is talking about praying in tongues IN the service. That’s the entire context of 1 Cor 14. There’s not a single mention in scripture of anyone, praying in tongues privately, outside of a public setting. Not one! This is a made up doctrine. These verses are explained in the video. I know every in and out of this passage. There’s nothing that you can say that will show biblically that tongues is a private prayer language, outside of a public setting. It does not happen in the Bible. Not even once. This is my final comment.
@gpwil3847
@gpwil3847 18 күн бұрын
Thank you. I have never liked tongues and find the fake babbling of Pentecostals to be harmful to the image of christianity. Cannot deny paul spoke about it and put restrictions on it, I’ll leave it at that. Agree with you 100%. In acts it is clear that it was used to spread the word as foreigners present understood hearing it in their native language.
@TheFansOfFiction
@TheFansOfFiction Ай бұрын
Many years ago there was an Emperor so exceedingly fond of new clothes that he spent all his money on being well dressed. He cared nothing about reviewing his soldiers, going to the theatre, or going for a ride in his carriage, except to show off his new clothes. He had a coat for every hour of the day, and instead of saying, as one might, about any other ruler, "The King's in council," here they always said. "The Emperor's in his dressing room." In the great city where he lived, life was always [merry]. Every day many strangers came to town, and among them one day came two swindlers. They let it be known they were weavers, and they said they could weave the most magnificent fabrics imaginable. Not only were their colors and patterns uncommonly fine, but clothes made of this cloth had a wonderful way of becoming invisible to anyone who was unfit for his office, or who was unusually stupid. "Those would be just the clothes for me," thought the Emperor. "If I wore them I would be able to discover which men in my empire are unfit for their posts. And I could tell the wise men from the fools. Yes, I certainly must get some of the stuff woven for me right away." He paid the two swindlers a large sum of money to start work at once. They set up two looms and pretended to weave, though there was nothing on the looms. All the finest silk and the purest old thread which they demanded went into their traveling bags, while they worked the empty looms far into the night. "I'd like to know how those weavers are getting on with the cloth," the Emperor thought, but he felt slightly uncomfortable when he remembered that those who were unfit for their position would not be able to see the fabric. It couldn't have been that he doubted himself, yet he thought he'd rather send someone else to see how things were going. The whole town knew about the cloth's peculiar power, and all were impatient to find out how stupid their neighbors were. "I'll send my honest old minister to the weavers," the Emperor decided. "He'll be the best one to tell me how the material looks, for he's a sensible man and no one does his duty better." So the honest old minister went to the room where the two swindlers sat working away at their empty looms. "Heaven help me," he thought as his eyes flew wide open, "I can't see anything at all". But he did not say so. Both the swindlers begged him to be so kind as to come near to approve the excellent pattern, the beautiful colors. They pointed to the empty looms, and the poor old minister stared as hard as he dared. He couldn't see anything, because there was nothing to see. "Heaven have mercy," he thought. "Can it be that I'm a fool? I'd have never guessed it, and not a soul must know. Am I unfit to be the minister? It would never do to let on that I can't see the cloth." "Don't hesitate to tell us what you think of it," said one of the weavers. "Oh, it's beautiful -it's enchanting." The old minister peered through his spectacles. "Such a pattern, what colors!" I'll be sure to tell the Emperor how delighted I am with it." "We're pleased to hear that," the swindlers said. They proceeded to name all the colors and to explain the intricate pattern. The old minister paid the closest attention, so that he could tell it all to the Emperor. And so he did. The swindlers at once asked for more money, more silk and gold thread, to get on with the weaving. But it all went into their pockets. Not a thread went into the looms, though they worked at their weaving as hard as ever. The Emperor presently sent another trustworthy official to see how the work progressed and how soon it would be ready. The same thing happened to him that had happened to the minister. He looked and he looked, but as there was nothing to see in the looms he couldn't see anything. "Isn't it a beautiful piece of goods?" the swindlers asked him, as they displayed and described their imaginary pattern. "I know I'm not stupid," the man thought, "so it must be that I'm unworthy of my good office. That's strange. I mustn't let anyone find it out, though." So he praised the material he did not see. He declared he was delighted with the beautiful colors and the exquisite pattern. To the Emperor he said, "It held me spellbound." All the town was talking of this splendid cloth, and the Emperor wanted to see it for himself while it was still in the looms. Attended by a band of chosen men, among whom were his two old trusted officials-the ones who had been to the weavers-he set out to see the two swindlers. He found them weaving with might and main, but without a thread in their looms. "Magnificent," said the two officials already duped. "Just look, Your Majesty, what colors! What a design!" They pointed to the empty looms, each supposing that the others could see the stuff. "What's this?" thought the Emperor. "I can't see anything. This is terrible! Am I a fool? Am I unfit to be the Emperor? What a thing to happen to me of all people! - Oh! It's very pretty," he said. "It has my highest approval." And he nodded approbation at the empty loom. Nothing could make him say that he couldn't see anything. His whole retinue stared and stared. One saw no more than another, but they all joined the Emperor in exclaiming, "Oh! It's very pretty," and they advised him to wear clothes made of this wonderful cloth especially for the great procession he was soon to lead. "Magnificent! Excellent! Unsurpassed!" were bandied from mouth to mouth, and everyone did his best to seem well pleased. The Emperor gave each of the swindlers a cross to wear in his buttonhole, and the title of "Sir Weaver." Before the procession the swindlers sat up all night and burned more than six candles, to show how busy they were finishing the Emperor's new clothes. They pretended to take the cloth off the loom. They made cuts in the air with huge scissors. And at last they said, "Now the Emperor's new clothes are ready for him." Then the Emperor himself came with his noblest noblemen, and the swindlers each raised an arm as if they were holding something. They said, "These are the trousers, here's the coat, and this is the mantle," naming each garment. "All of them are as light as a spider web. One would almost think he had nothing on, but that's what makes them so fine." "Exactly," all the noblemen agreed, though they could see nothing, for there was nothing to see. "If Your Imperial Majesty will condescend to take your clothes off," said the swindlers, "we will help you on with your new ones here in front of the long mirror." The Emperor undressed, and the swindlers pretended to put his new clothes on him, one garment after another. They took him around the waist and seemed to be fastening something - that was his train-as the Emperor turned round and round before the looking glass. "How well Your Majesty's new clothes look. Aren't they becoming!" He heard on all sides, "That pattern, so perfect! Those colors, so suitable! It is a magnificent outfit." Then the minister of public processions announced: "Your Majesty's canopy is waiting outside." "Well, I'm supposed to be ready," the Emperor said, and turned again for one last look in the mirror. "It is a remarkable fit, isn't it?" He seemed to regard his costume with the greatest interest. The noblemen who were to carry his train stooped low and reached for the floor as if they were picking up his mantle. Then they pretended to lift and hold it high. They didn't dare admit they had nothing to hold. So off went the Emperor in procession under his splendid canopy. Everyone in the streets and the windows said, "Oh, how fine are the Emperor's new clothes! Don't they fit him to perfection? And see his long train!" Nobody would confess that he couldn't see anything, for that would prove him either unfit for his position, or a fool. No costume the Emperor had worn before was ever such a complete success. "But he hasn't got anything on," a little child said. "Did you ever hear such innocent prattle?" said its father. And one person whispered to another what the child had said, "He hasn't anything on. A child says he hasn't anything on." "But he hasn't got anything on!" the whole town cried out at last. The Emperor shivered, for he suspected they were right. But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all. The Emperor's New Clothes By Hans Christian Andersen's Translated by Jean Hersholt.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw Ай бұрын
Exactly!! I use this story ALL THE TIME!! 😃
@Blackrims23
@Blackrims23 4 ай бұрын
I heard someone on KZbin say they got kinda possessed for trying to speak it
@netsanetsortland2367
@netsanetsortland2367 2 ай бұрын
I also seen people use Jude 1:20 «But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,» ‭‭ Saying that is praying in tongues .. I just come out of this teachings and I practiced speaking in tongues, and I can say that I am quit confused. I only try to find the truth about it. What would you say the scripture saying here ? Thank you for your teaching. God bless you
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 2 ай бұрын
It can be confusing because people call praying in “tongues” praying in the Spirit. But these concepts are NOT synonymous. Praying in the Holy Spirit does NOT mean praying in tongues (in that verse, or in any verse). It simply means praying with the Holy Spirit inside of us (and in tune with the Spirit).
@netsanetsortland2367
@netsanetsortland2367 2 ай бұрын
@@lionoffireraw please, I wonder how can we pray in tune with the Holy Spirit ? So all this babbling it’s just vain? I heard apostles and prophets say you must pray in tongues for many many hours… yet when I did I couldn’t understand why I never get edified, like it is written in 1 Corinthians 14:4
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 2 ай бұрын
@netsanetsortland2367 it’s all nonsense.
@jenniferfarrell1937
@jenniferfarrell1937 9 күн бұрын
I cringe when I hear people speaking in tongues. Especially when my Mother lays her hands on me and speaks in tongues 😬
@ernies8828
@ernies8828 6 ай бұрын
'Some Will Depart from the Faith': "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared." --1st Timothy 4. Now, read those passages in Corinthians again.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
Amen
@ernies8828
@ernies8828 6 ай бұрын
@lionoffireraw - This says the gifts are not all continuing because false teachers and doctrines say they do. Paul says what is in God continues, and true gifts at any time ONLY come from God. This is rare and finite. We reject humanism in this regard as a result. There is no weakness in knowing what is all obvious. Less than a fraction of one percent know what true love is. Those in elitism understand indoctrination because they do it through freemasonry/illuminati in the world. I even have had conversations in the past briefly where some in certain church groups are friends with these people in private confidence. I'm going to bed. Trust in the One who will never pass away. We are but filthy rags, and yet He gave it all for us and the Kingdom of God.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
The true gifts continue. 1 Corinthians 13 is clear on this, and I explained that in the video.
@ernies8828
@ernies8828 6 ай бұрын
​@lionoffireraw - I have 1st Corinthians 13 on my wall. I also don't think KZbin deleted all my comments either, since some are still here. But I digress. I stated the obvious on everything. I am not asleep at the wheel, so to speak. Corinthians is overall written in relevance to God's true nature, conviction, and wisdom. It is in no way about the gifts continuing, because not everyone will be healed, be rich in money and have a perfect life. Tell me one instance in any church which teaches that as absolute in today that all interpretation of the gifts experienced in the room in Acts carried on fully in like manner, other than false teachers and false doctrines? You can't, because this is not the relevance and absolute of the true Gospel and purpose of the Holy Spirit. I grew up, visited and met so many people in churches from all over. I was abused, mocked for my faith in various ways, a victim of two ancient cults tied to the same enemy, even for being open about wanting to share God with others in high school. And yet, I have deep love for people. You are my brother in Christ, but one big reason why I left the church is because of everything that's wrong going on in many of them, and the lack of common sense and true accountability.
@wconsiglio
@wconsiglio 17 күн бұрын
iWhat are Tongues? This love for God expresses itself in what is sometimes called “tongues” or “glossolalia”. This is not the same as the languages described on the day of Pentecost. Those were actual foreign languages which everyone heard and understood in their own language. Quite a miracle in itself! The tongues I am speaking of here are a jumble and mixture of rapid sounds, words or singing which arise from being swept up or carried away by your love of the Father and the Son. You are swept up; this means that it is the Holy Spirit within you who is inspiring these rapid words of honor, worship, praise and thankfulness to God. They arise from God’s Spirit and are directed to the Father and Jesus. Ordinary intelligible words are not sufficient to express this intense love. The love you feel is a love which comes right from the throne of God. Often it’s accompanied by the lifting up of hands, kneeling before God, or bowing before God. Sometimes people feel like singing and dancing. The Old Testament tells us about David dancing around the throne of God. In my view there are genuine tongues and also a false imitation of tongues. Genuine tongues arise from the Spirit and I believe are more rare than some make them out to be. They are spoken to express and give expression to a person’s interior devotional life. Genuine tongues are a supernatural gift of the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 13:13 says, “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” It is a love language arising from the Holy Spirit who is the love of the Father and Son, and that love is spoken from your spirit to God and the edifying of other Christians who hear it. It may, in fact, cause others to begin speaking in genuine tongues of love to the Father and Christ. Genuine tongues magnify and glorify God. 1 Corinthians 14:1-5 describes the limitations of genuine tongues. “Anyone who speaks in a genuine tongue does not speak to people but to God. In fact, no one understands them; they utter words and mysteries by the Spirit. But speaking prophesies to people is for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort. Anyone who speaks in a tongue spiritually improves themselves, but the one who prophesies enlightens the church. I would like every one of you to speak in genuine tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets the tongues so that the whole church may understand and be enlightened.” Some people merely imitate the sound of tongues. This is mostly false and insincere. They imitate what they hear because others are speaking in genuine tongues and they want to appear to do likewise. But it’s not arising from the internal inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Inside they may want to stir up the Spirit, which is sincerely desired. But unfortunately for many it is a fictitious imitation. They are faking it! It may even sound genuine, but it is not authentic. Remember genuine tongues are a supernatural gift of the Holy Spirit which comes to a person who is experiencing overwhelming love of God.
@bettytigers
@bettytigers 4 ай бұрын
Love is essential, to a person, as is food normally. Speaking In tongues is recommended by some, as tomato ketchup or relish is for food by some. Test everything hold on to the good and avoid every kind of evil seems wise! 🙂
@ransomlopez6584
@ransomlopez6584 18 күн бұрын
I love you brother, keep going. We know all truth is from The Father and as his people we agree he will lead us in what we need to know. I will take what you have presented before the Father. However, allow me to encourage you to make sure God is requiring you to present what to say as fact or fiction right or wrong before you post.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 18 күн бұрын
I always ensure that my words are supported by Scripture 🙏
@danyoung5052
@danyoung5052 19 күн бұрын
It is real, and God has helped me to prove it. I stumbled on some of the words in the old testament of the kjv that i remembered saying, and they were phrases glorifying and praising God in the Hebrew language. I dont speak, read, or know Hebrew language. It was a marvelous discovery.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 19 күн бұрын
If it’s ALL in another known language, then it can be real. If not a few words here and there, then it’s just random coincidence. Note, as per the video, tongues is NEVER a private prayer language biblically, but is for the benefit of the person listening to it. It should only take place in a church with an interpreter (or the person hearing it speaks that language).
@What1see
@What1see 2 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with you
@TheWhistler1128
@TheWhistler1128 23 күн бұрын
God hates those who create divisions amongst the brethren. Why don't you focus on edification?
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 23 күн бұрын
Then let’s all unite on the clear truth of Scripture in regards to tongues (as per this video). Division is caused by those who reject this clear truth, not the ones who hold to it!
@TheWhistler1128
@TheWhistler1128 23 күн бұрын
Good argument. Just declare victory. You're blinded by your lack of understanding.
@Water_Rat
@Water_Rat 5 күн бұрын
@@lionoffireraw that’s like saying everybody come to my side and then we all can live in unity. Doctrinal debate is not my thing as I don’t want to cause any division in the body of Christ. I was starting to get caught up in it, but I realize it’s taking my focus away from the love of Christ and I was beginning to treat the Bible like a spiritual ping-pong ball. I confess that I have not honoured the Lord in this. Therefore, I am de-recommending this channel from my feed, deleting any oppositional comments I have made, and am considering it a lesson learned. I apologize if I have stirred up any division. Bless you, brother Matt.
@tammymoore859
@tammymoore859 4 ай бұрын
Hi Matt! I realize this video is a little older but, I’m curious about Acts 19:1-6. I have been taught in my later years that we get the Holy Spirit as soon as we repent and believe on the Lord Jesus. That’s not what those verses say though. It was a different event according to those verses. Can you help me to understand? I don’t speak in tongues but have been around many different denominations in my 45 years. I know there are other passages that make it sound like it’s a different event too.
@RabbiMurray
@RabbiMurray Ай бұрын
It fulfilled what Jesus said to Samaria Jerusalem to the uttermost parts (gentile) just verification that were accepted. That's it. It's not difficult. How about the eunuch ? Or the 3000 saved on Pentecost ? Did they speak in tounges ? How about Timothy and Titus ? Why didn't he mention it in church set up ? Make sure they pray in tounges Timothy ?
@richardhayward5814
@richardhayward5814 6 ай бұрын
Your claim that people in Acts are speaking a known human language is not upheld in at least two instances: 1. nowhere does it say that those who spoke in tongues at Cornelius' house were speaking an identifiable human language; 2. the tongues spoken by the disciples in Ephesus when Paul laid hands on them are never identitfied as being any named human language, Moreover, in neither of these cases do there appear to be any persons present who were encouraged/rebuked,comforted/edified by what was spoken in tongues. And let's face it these, together with what happened on the Day of Pentecost, are the only recorded historical cases of tongues-speaking in the Bible. Clearly the tongues at Pentecost were identifiable languages, but 1st Corinthians speaks of the phenomenon as occurring which may be spoken where only the speaker and God are present.
@crazydays4444
@crazydays4444 6 ай бұрын
glad you brought out this passage.... was in that chapter recently, and saw the same.
@lionoffireraw
@lionoffireraw 6 ай бұрын
We have an example of human languages in Acts 2. There are NO examples of tongues being anything other than a human language. Claiming it can be anything other than a human language is simply making things up that the Bible doesn’t say. It’s a theology which was invented around 1900.
@robinconnelly6079
@robinconnelly6079 3 ай бұрын
Naa. Dude, sorry man, but it is actually you who is adding to the text. I wish I had some time. I would go through this is detail. You have tied yourself in theological knots. I don't know what to say. It seems to be the way you process logic in your head. Its something like "This is the purpose of tongues". "Im going to re-interpret the passage based on this principle". Meanwhile the "plain meaning of the text" is staring you in the face. Then you make up some reason to justify the principle like "Paul is REALLY saying that is selfish". Etc You are adding your principles to the text instead of just reading the text. I know you will just want to argue with me but I think you should sit down and carefully think about the way you are processing logic. Maybe you will get it. I don't know.
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