What is the gift of tongues? Is speaking in tongues the Baptism of the Holy Spirit?

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@wakeupwatchman1526
@wakeupwatchman1526 4 жыл бұрын
Having grown up Pentecostal, this is by far the most grounded, in scripture, whole picture, level headed, unbiased explanation of the gift of tongues I have heard. Thank you Tom.
@GangsterofloveSpacecowboy
@GangsterofloveSpacecowboy 4 жыл бұрын
I too grew up in a Pentecostal church and was always told that i was not saved unless i spoke in tongues. Then as I got older and read the Bible for myself I realized that was not true.
@neofoo
@neofoo 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, is it good teaching because he is going through most of the scriptures that speak about tounges, which some churches that are spirit-filled like a Pentecostal tend to be more focus on Holy Spirit abilities, more time in singing to God, and less scripture, everyone should have a good balance to both the Word of God and the Spiritual Gifts that God himself gives to all believers, we just all look different and are different parts of the body. This teacher only has part of the pie, not the full understanding, and it grieves me to hear it because they(this belief system), put God in a Box and will never get to be filled like the day of Pentecost, why because faith to wait in the "Upperroom", while others will walk about and miss that experience. Most of them don't even ask for it or want, and in some circle get taught that its "of the devil" it because they would have to leave their congregations and wouldn't be accepted by them anymore, you would have to be moved to a different tribe of Christianity. Super Sad.
@SymbolofPeeace
@SymbolofPeeace 4 жыл бұрын
On the day of Pentecost they didn’t speak in tongues they spoke their language and the people heard and understood what the person next to them were saying in their native language by way of the Holy Spirit. Sonic you spoke Spanish and I spoke English and you were talking to me in Spanish I would hear it in English and understand (Acts 2:6). What Paul is referring to is, another heavenly language perhaps the first language (before God made all the other languages on the Tower of Babel just a theory) that edifies the speaker, where as prophecy edifies the Chuch/Body. Read it again with in context this time.
@SymbolofPeeace
@SymbolofPeeace 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking in tongues starts out as utterances just like any other language does. You don’t just come out of the womb speaking fluent English no. You utter what you’ve heard or what hear until you can fully say it. Tongues the heavenly language is just that a language. The Spirit tells you what to say and you say what hear the Spirit telling you to go the best of your ability, until you can speak or fluently. And most times for me I know what I’m saying. The Spirit interprets it to me. Sometimes He doesn’t depending on my environment.
@SymbolofPeeace
@SymbolofPeeace 4 жыл бұрын
Now your argument is stupid, why would I need to speak to God in Spanish or German if I already speak fluent English. Whats the purpose furthermore if I speak Spanish that means that I understand Spanish which will contradict 1Corinthians14 in it’s entirety. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BRO, FOR YOU ALL WHO ARE EATING THIS UP, READ AND STUDY FOR YOURSELF. STOP BELIEVING OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE THE GIFT. FIND YOURS AND USE IT TO EDIFY YOURSELF AND THE BODY. PEACE ✌🏾 I’m Done!
@GyozaGirl0083
@GyozaGirl0083 7 ай бұрын
Beautifully explained, even for a "charismatic" (I hate these labels). I absolutely love what you said at the end---"Good Christians who love each other disagree on this. We're still brothers and sisters in Christ. The main thing is, we all have the Holy Spirit, we worship the same Christ, we belong to the same Lord, we give ourselves to Him and we pray for one another, love one another, and spread the good news to the world"
@frankruiz3080
@frankruiz3080 15 күн бұрын
I'm a Baptist and when I look at a Pentecostal I believe it but we don't force it on anyone and you are still safe if you speak it or don't speak it
@davidbentley8075
@davidbentley8075 2 жыл бұрын
I read a testimony, where a young man had just come home from being overseas. He was not in Russia, and did not learn to speak Russian. This young man attended a Sunday Church service. During the service he spoke out and gave an exhortation in another tongue. Another person gave the interpretation in English. After the service an older Russian lady asked the young man if he had been to Russia, and where did he learn such beautiful Russian language. The young man told the lady he never was in Russia, and he could not speak Russian because he never learned it. The old lady was touched to the heart, not only by the beautiful Russian language that she had heard, but that it was truly a sign that God was present in the Church that morning.
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 2 жыл бұрын
Was the Russian translation was about the gospel of Jesus? If not, then it is from the devil. Jesus great commission was specific to go and speak- teach the gospel and God’s kingdom, not some gibberish that no one understands....
@mrsvictor9914
@mrsvictor9914 2 жыл бұрын
Wow my God! Yes in the book of Acts this took place! Lobe these testimonies of signs and wonders
@IC.XC.NI.KA.
@IC.XC.NI.KA. 2 жыл бұрын
There are many such testimonials in the beginning of the penticostal movement at the very beginning of 20th century America.
@psgproductions437
@psgproductions437 2 жыл бұрын
@@olgaburgos7780 When you started writing your comment did you truly read what the testimony is about??? Seems like you are a person either that likes to make up lies within someone's declarations or testimonies just out of uncontrolled impulse (which a tool for the enemy to use). Or simply you are speaking out of ignorance. Either way you should read again the testimony and not add or make assumptions totally contrary to what the testimony is saying clearly. I myself am against speaking gibberish which is not speaking in other tongues like what is reflected on the day of pentecost. The Bible scenario and the scenario in this testimony are the same. The apostle started speaking in other tongues, as the Spirit gave them too speak. And the people outside were listening and heard their own languages being spoken by these strangers. So clearly the testimony given here is the same because this young person was speaking in tongues (Russian)given to him by the spirit at that moment because the fact is he didn't know russian. Your comment she's coming from a hyper person typing without processing anything except what comes to your mind. I've done that as well. This testimony has the evidence of God in the matter. The lady understood in Russian(just like the outsiders st pentecost which understood what the apostles wee speaking). Meaning the Spirit gave the young man the language to speak although he himself doesn't know Russian. Yet the lady did understand and was blessed by it. Meaning tha God did exactly what the Bible indicated He does when someone is speaking in tongues: It edifies the body of Christ. So this lady was in a congregation and was edified by hearing someone speaking in her language. There is No reason for you or anyone to twist the narrative and make a statement of it possibly being gibberish, when in the testimony it clearly states facts that make it non gibberish. You got 2 different people to like your comment which is a comment full of error and even a twisting of what's being said which is a lie in itself. Whether intentional or not, you should read again the testimony which you are choosing to make a comment on because clearly you are not acknowledging the fact that it couldn't been gibberish if someone else acknowledges it's their native language. You're leading people into confusion and whether in your language or a different one , that is 100% not of God so reflect and see how the Enemy is using you to confuse others.
@psgproductions437
@psgproductions437 2 жыл бұрын
@david, thank you for this testimony. God is the same always and what happened in pentecost is the same of what happened in that testimony. Pray be to the Lord
@janenns9831
@janenns9831 4 жыл бұрын
Such an eloquent explanation. I personally have been challenged because I was born again in a church in which was very Pentecostal and as I’ve matured, I’m no longer at that church and have had to reconsider lots of the theology taught. Ultimately, I know God is gracious and I continue on pursuing truth but most importantly God.
@student1108
@student1108 4 жыл бұрын
And God is truth and you are on the right track.
@sojyoommen5819
@sojyoommen5819 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jans I am happy for you and His abundant grace. God bless.
@karlfuller3240
@karlfuller3240 4 жыл бұрын
keep testing u are in the faith like the boreans did even if it means u leave your church because of false teachings
@user-kq5qp6dh8l
@user-kq5qp6dh8l 4 жыл бұрын
So do you speak in gibberish then?
@cooljc26
@cooljc26 4 жыл бұрын
Jan Enns You said "Such an eloquent explanation. I personally have been challenged because I was born again in a church in which was very Pentecostal and as I’ve matured, I’m no longer at that church and have had to reconsider lots of the theology taught. Ultimately, I know God is gracious and I continue on pursuing truth but most importantly God. My comment *@Jan Enns... So in other words you left the truth to go back into darkness.*
@mimilong3817
@mimilong3817 Жыл бұрын
I did speak in tongues to my physician about 14 years ago (to my own horror) but I didn’t understand what I was saying and I’m pretty sure he didn’t understand either. I acted like nothing happened whatsoever. I’m sure it was the Holy Spirit because I had recently undergone a miraculous event wherein I was saved and miraculously healed by Jesus Christ. I was never a believer but was a lifelong agnostic. Believe me, I am a believer in God. Jesus is my Lord and Savior.✝️ 💫✨Believe in Miracles!✨💫
@marshallgarrett1593
@marshallgarrett1593 3 жыл бұрын
Well said I was converted at age 13 baptised by the laying on of hands in the name of Jesus at 14 I spoke in tongues and have done so all my Christian life I am now 74 I was praying in a pray group a while ago and prayed in tongues. A lady who was present told me that I was praying in Hebrew I mention this as it was a blessing for me I believe Christians will move in the spiritual gifts in the last days
@joejona
@joejona 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recollect what you said in Hebrew or did that lady tell you what exactly was that you spoke in Hebrew ?
@ryangalligan1040
@ryangalligan1040 2 жыл бұрын
Praying in tongues is a spiritual gift and is a prayer to the father, as he understands it. And you will fill your spirit more
@PyramidEagle
@PyramidEagle 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking in tongues if done publicly MUST be interpreted otherwise don't because it is a sign to the unbeliever not to a believer.
@RockyTop85
@RockyTop85 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryangalligan1040 that’s not the true gift - it is not for self edification
@bkf8166
@bkf8166 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockyTop85 Incorrect. "But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit FOR THE COMMON GOOD. 8For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; 9to another faith [f]by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of [g]healing [h]by the one Spirit, 10and to another the [i]effecting of [j]miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the [k]distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He [l]wills." And... "And God has [u]appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then [v]miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, and various kinds of tongues." And... "4The one who speaks in a tongue edifies himself;" Your point needs some clarification. As it is, it makes no sense.
@ericnichols9217
@ericnichols9217 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your thoughtful and loving care in rightly dividing the Word.
@craiggross9629
@craiggross9629 2 жыл бұрын
I spoke in tongues for over 40 years the years. And then in a real deep study of the word and listening to preachers like you I couldn't the conclusion that I was speaking nothing but gibberish. How could I go on doing that for that many years? Well the answer answer is I did have a good heart in it. I thought I was doing the right thing. I thought that it was building me up. And the way that it was talked to me when I 1st got saved I had scriptural foundation for speaking tongues all those years. But your sermon here is one of the very Best that I have heard and I appreciate the fact that you're not trying to be confrontational thank you God-bless you and God-bless his holy word
@theprophetez1357
@theprophetez1357 4 жыл бұрын
In Acts 2 it says that there were men out of every nation under Heaven. Yet they all heard these Galileans in their own native tongue. Those disciples did not speak every language so it was the hearers who were given the gift of interpretation. It is a rare gift that does still exist today and I have witnessed a young man 12-14 yrs old who had the gift and it was quite amazing.
@jollygoodgordon5580
@jollygoodgordon5580 Жыл бұрын
TOO BE HONEST. the day of pentacost in act, thats the only example we as believers need about what true tongues is. because it was the first moment the apostles got it and it was very clear about what is is.
@keithmitchell3635
@keithmitchell3635 4 жыл бұрын
I am always open to learning more about the word of God so I thought I would listen and maybe see some biblically based discussion in the comments. But in reading the comments, I must say that I am heartbroken. Why use words to tear each other apart and degrade? If, someone is theologically wrong, why not pray for them to be enlightened. Why not seek God for them to know him as you do? As a fellow believer It is my deepest desire that we as the body truly learn to love one another. And respect even those with whom we strongly disagree. No matter what side of this theological argument you may be on ask yourself, "will my response be reflective of the grace and loving-kindness of the One I serve?" "Will my words be seasoned with grace and acceptable in His sight?" Church, we must come together or we will lose those who we have been commissioned to win. I love you all. May God bless.
@petemccutchen3266
@petemccutchen3266 3 жыл бұрын
Or I could just laugh at your primitive superstition
@keithmitchell3635
@keithmitchell3635 3 жыл бұрын
@@petemccutchen3266 Yes sir That's certainly an option. Take care!
@Smolpuff0
@Smolpuff0 3 жыл бұрын
Keith, God bless you. I read your comment here and I know exactly who you serve. There has been many a time where I wonder or have questions regarding these gifts as I don't have them but, I believe both your response and your reply to our friend Pete is the correct one. Hebrews 12:1 friend
@BirdYoumans
@BirdYoumans 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who gets it. I particularly like the way you explain it in a non judgmental way so as not to offend those who don't understand what it really was. The Bible is a very practical book and when tongues don't serve a practical purpose such as when an interpreter is needed, it only gets in the way when done in public. But you did a great job of explaining what it was and why it came to be, starting with Pentecost. On the other hand, for those that think it enhances their religious experience, as long as it is part of their private experience, I suppose it does no harm. Some need it, some don't. I love both types! We are all brothers and sisters in Christ whether we do or not.
@TrustworthyExpert
@TrustworthyExpert 4 жыл бұрын
I heard a lady start “speaking in tongues “, immediately I thought God loves her. Someone stood up to interpret and said she said God loves us. Then the thought came directly to my mind...cool!
@jasonhinson3812
@jasonhinson3812 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who does😂🤣 Thanks for not acting like I’m “of the devil” it’s simply a form meditation that keeps you focused on Gods presence when your praying. I’m jus t happy I’m not worshiping the devil in the eyes of someone at least?
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 3 жыл бұрын
@ZoneFighter1 Speaking in " tongues" is speaking one spiritual language. It is what Paul referred to as the " unknown tongue" that " No man knoweth" . If no man knows it then it isn't a language spoken normally on earth. It is the initial evidence that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit and the born again believers' private prayer language.
@harutikz
@harutikz 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertnieten7259 he clearly explained it and you still reject to accept it. It is important to notice in 1 Corinthians 13:1 that Paul is trying to impress upon us that love is highly important. In order to make his point, he says that even if you speak with the tongues of men or angels, that is not as important as love. Now he is not telling us that angels have their own unique language. Paul is writing in hyperbole. Notice the word “if” in the verse is a condition of probability. He is saying if we did speak with the tongues of men and of angels. It is interesting that Paul says, “If I speak with the tongues of men.” Obviously, all humans speak in some known tongue or language. Therefore, his point is that “if” we spoke even in the tongue of an angel. Therefore, we should conclude that Paul is writing in hyperbole. The expression “tongues of angels” is hyperbole. He is exaggerating to make a point. Even if we could speak in the tongue of angels! Paul was not trying to teach us that believers can or will speak in an angelic language. To positively conclude that the tongues of angels refers to an actual language used in heaven assumes facts not substantiated anywhere in Scripture.
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 3 жыл бұрын
@@harutikz What language would God speak to His angels and they to Him ? Certainly not an earthly language. Believers seem to ignore 1Cor.14:2 to where Paul says that "he that speaks in unknown tongue speaks to God not man". What language other than his own would man speak to God ? It wouldn't be a native earthly language. Paul also says that it a language that " No man knoweth". If it's a language no man knows then it's not a language native to this world. Lastly Paul says that he that speaks in this unknown tongue isn't doing so" in the spirit". What else could it be but a spiritual language ? Most certainly love is important but it is equally important as it pertains to individual salvation that a believer speak in a language they couldn't possibly already know that they have recieved the Holy Spirit.
@RyanChu45
@RyanChu45 Жыл бұрын
The final word is so touching. Good Christmas even disagree on one topic, but still providing love to each. This makes one to observe who has the Holy Spirit within. Thank you for the video!!
@adoulidji3537
@adoulidji3537 3 жыл бұрын
-Keep on being truthful and faithful to the Lord, seek understanding and knowledge of the word of God.
@KevinRoy1948
@KevinRoy1948 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the videos I have watched on this topic, this is surely the most helpful, informative, balanced and scriptural. Humble scholarship at its best. Thank you.
@jimbuford4147
@jimbuford4147 2 жыл бұрын
But still a lot of error in what he says.
@brentmeeks8240
@brentmeeks8240 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using scripture to ground your understanding of tongues as used in scripture as well as how we define it and understand it today. I really appreciate what you all are doing and have much love for you brother! I think you covered quite a few verses in regards to how tongues has been used in scriptures but do feel a few we’re not discussed. I believe when we discuss and controversial topic or any topic we should discuss it’s use in scripture in its entirety. A few verse we need to keep in mind is 1 Cor 14:1-28 “Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up. Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking in tongues, how will I benefit you unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching? If even lifeless instruments, such as the flute or the harp, do not give distinct notes, how will anyone know what is played? And if the bugle gives an indistinct sound, who will get ready for battle? So with yourselves, if with your tongue you utter speech that is not intelligible, how will anyone know what is said? For you will be speaking into the air. There are doubtless many different languages in the world, and none is without meaning, but if I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be a foreigner to the speaker and the speaker a foreigner to me. So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church. Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also. Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying? For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up. I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue. Brothers, do not be children in your thinking. Be infants in evil, but in your thinking be mature. In the Law it is written, “By people of strange tongues and by the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.” Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers. If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds? But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all, the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you. What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up. If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God.” ‭‭ From this text we can see that Paul is telling the church that if someone speaks in tounges in a corporate setting there must be order and only be two do this at one time. There must also be a interpreter so that the church may understand what is being spoken in the spirit and can be built up otherwise it’s better for the person to keep quiet. We see in 1 Cor 14:4 that tonges without a translator builds up one’s self. “The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14:4‬ ‭ESV‬‬ This shows us that there is a angelic prayer language between us and God. I have been bless with the gift of speaking in tongues and can attest to the way it builds me up and I have seen it done correctly in a corporate church setting with one person speaking in tongues and there be one interpreter and the message came out as something that would edify and build up the church who was hearing the interpretation. Oh yeah I also am a member of a Baptist Church. I pray this helps some of you understand all aspects of tongues! Love you!
@7sevenMadeIt
@7sevenMadeIt 2 жыл бұрын
thankyou do speaking in tongues is between you and YAHWEH in prayer and if saying it to another have 2 or 3 to interpret if Speaking tongues to or with others
@andrelgospel3029
@andrelgospel3029 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the mail on the head with this right here. Paul is very clear about when it’s proper to speak in unknown tongues. In front of the congregation is not the place unless there’s interpretation. Amen!
@riccistrickler2456
@riccistrickler2456 19 күн бұрын
Could you explain just how it builds you up? I’ve asked a couple people but without good answers. Just trying to understand the best I can.
@brentmeeks8240
@brentmeeks8240 15 күн бұрын
@@riccistrickler2456 The first time I spoke in tongues I was worshiping in my living room. And when I started I felt the glory of the Lord increase in the room and in me. When I pray in tongues the same thing happens. I can Physically feel and anointing coming over me. An increase from just normal praying or praising. I believe. It ushers the move of the Holy Spirit to come and work in whatever we are praying about. Moving and working. I think that refining presence of the Lord builds us up. It kills our flesh and refocuses us by just coming in close proximity to him a proximity that cant be reached with normal words. When we pray in tongues we are praying for things only our spirit groans and are too deep for words. This is not only my understanding of scripture but has been my personal experience.
@itschrisjustchris5077
@itschrisjustchris5077 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you say "maybe, but I don't think so." I appreciate that you have a vast amount of knowledge but still allow yourself to say "maybe."
@ajokupatrick
@ajokupatrick 7 ай бұрын
Honestly
@GeoCalifornian
@GeoCalifornian Жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Thomas Schreiner’s spirit and his attitude and his love for all Christians! /Alleluia
@delano7685
@delano7685 4 жыл бұрын
There is a distinction between speaking in tongues to edify the church and speaking or praying in tongues privately. Paul writes that he will pray with his spirit (tongues) but he will also pray with his mind.
@yesqueen2039
@yesqueen2039 3 жыл бұрын
I also love how He says, I pray more than all of you in tongues. I can imagine how necessary it was to be constantly filled to fulfill His Mission, and that is still a Great reminder for us today.
@mdinvestor3100
@mdinvestor3100 5 ай бұрын
Wow!!! That was clear, concise, authoritative, biblical and non-judgmental. I’ve learned more in this video than all the other videos I’ve watched on this topic combined. Thank you Professor!
@hman9581
@hman9581 2 ай бұрын
Best you read the bible for yourself.
@victoriakennedy5453
@victoriakennedy5453 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation...what I have experienced is that I now hear and speak truth from certain things that the Lord directs me to...almost like there is no tongues involved...as though by connecting with Christ he speaks to me and I speak to him through my thoughts/prayers...it has been truly amazing #GodWins ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@johnolorunfemi3557
@johnolorunfemi3557 5 ай бұрын
Love you sir, God bless you for teaching the truth. May the Lord uphold you and continue to revitalize you for His work IJN 🙏🏾 -30/05/2024
@seattlecloudchaser7295
@seattlecloudchaser7295 4 жыл бұрын
"Speaking in tongues is not something you HAVE to do; it is something you get to do." Someone once told me that and it really made sense to me. Frankly, the idea of speaking in tongues used to freak me out... I know that the kundalini spirit is a false "holy" spirit: Laying on the ground, cackling, being drunk in the spirit is chaos and I do not believe that spirit is from God. But when I accidentally interrupted a family member in his quiet space praying (with his tattered bible held together with tape from daily prayer laying next to him) and I heard him speaking in the spirit, I was completely moved. It was the most beautiful and organized language... he was in total worship of God and his Savior. I certainly would never try to judge anyone who speaks/prays in this type of way. I witnessed a beautiful gift exercised in secret between a man and his Creator. We should be careful not to gnash our teeth at one another and cast judgement. Some of God's blessings will continue to be mysteries. So Come Lord Jesus, Come. ❤️
@ReneKoshy
@ReneKoshy 4 жыл бұрын
@Porter Maxwell I understand what you mean here but dear friend, it is nonsense syllables to our human minds. To be able to distinguish between human and spiritual realm, we must surrender ourselves to the knowledge of God which is the theme that Paul tries to bring forth multiple times through the Epistle. In a world of logic and proof, I know metaphysical concepts are going to be shunned as "manipulations or false perceptions", but the Bible reveals the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I have been able to attest to the divinity of praying in tongues, a language that Holy Spirit engages to connect our soul with the mind of Christ and the Will of God. I also feel sorry for the misinterpretations and heresies that are portrayed in the "name of tongues" which I believe is not from the Holy Spirit. Hope we are able to realize the truth and not reject it because a lot of misinterpretations are being practiced. God Bless. :)
@cooljc26
@cooljc26 4 жыл бұрын
Seattle Cloud Chaser You said *"Speaking in tongues is not something you HAVE to do;* it is something you get to do." Someone once told me that and it really made sense to me. Frankly, the idea of speaking in tongues used to freak me out... I know that the kundalini spirit is a false "holy" spirit: Laying on the ground, cackling, being drunk in the spirit is chaos and I do not believe that spirit is from God. But when I accidentally interrupted a family member in his quiet space praying (with his tattered bible held together with tape from daily prayer laying next to him) and I heard him speaking in the spirit, I was completely moved. It was the most beautiful and organized language... he was in total worship of God and his Savior. I certainly would never try to judge anyone who speaks/prays in this type of way. I witnessed a beautiful gift exercised in secret between a man and his Creator. We should be careful not to gnash our teeth at one another and cast judgement. Some of God's blessings will continue to be mysteries. So Come Lord Jesus, Come. ❤️ My comment *@Seattle Cloud Chaser... Whoever told you that doesn't have a clue to what they are talking about at all, and it's a false statement. Speaking in tongues is something you MUST do. Speaking in tongues is the SIGN that one is filled/baptized with the Holy Spirit and if a person have NOT spoken in tongues they do NOT have the Holy Spirit and if any man have NOT the Spirit of Christ they are NONE of his.* *Now this so called speaking in tongues which you see people doing all over youtube, where THEY THEMSELVES put a bunch of silly syllables together... that is NOT speaking in tongues at all. The BIBLE says the HOLY SPIRIT gives the utterance NOT you give yourself the utterance, then try to call that nonsense the Holy Spirit.*
@cooljc26
@cooljc26 4 жыл бұрын
Rene Sam Koshy You said "@Porter Maxwell I understand what you mean here but dear friend, it is nonsense syllables to our human minds. To be able to distinguish between human and spiritual realm, we must surrender ourselves to the knowledge of God which is the theme that Paul tries to bring forth multiple times through the Epistle. In a world of logic and proof, I know metaphysical concepts are going to be shunned as "manipulations or false perceptions", but the Bible reveals the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I have been able to attest to the divinity of praying in tongues, a language that Holy Spirit engages to connect our soul with the mind of Christ and the Will of God. I also feel sorry for the misinterpretations and heresies that are portrayed in the "name of tongues" which I believe is not from the Holy Spirit. Hope we are able to realize the truth and not reject it because a lot of misinterpretations are being practiced. God Bless. :) My comment *@Rene Sam Koshy.... It's not just nonsense syllables to our human minds, it's pure nonsense period and neither is that speaking in tongues, when PEOPLE put a bunch of silly syllables together, you can't find that foolishness in the bible at all.* *The BIBLE says the HOLY SPIRIT gives the utterance and the Holy Spirit knows all languages, the bible does NOT tell US to put syllables together and then call that WICKEDNESS speaking in tongues. That is definitely NOT speaking in tongues and neither is that of God at all.*
@ReneKoshy
@ReneKoshy 4 жыл бұрын
@@cooljc26 I think you're attesting to what I did say in a different manner there bro. Holy Spirit is who provides the utterances and connects us to God. All that the comment meant was to serve as a response to how nonsensical "it sounds to other people who hear it". I never claim that it is us who string together nonsensical syllables to form a language (which might be the case with heretics and apostasies nowadays), for I too believe that is not from the Holy Spirit. This is the reason why Apostle Paul exhorts the Church that the speaking in tongues is for the edification of self and not of the congregation. He also states that praises God for he speaks in tongues more than them. I hope therefore that you understood the context of this comment if I had confused you in the previous. God Bless.
@cooljc26
@cooljc26 4 жыл бұрын
Rene Sam Koshy You said "@cooljc26 I think you're attesting to what I did say in a different manner there bro. Holy Spirit is who provides the utterances and connects us to God. All that the comment meant was to serve as a response to how nonsensical "it sounds to other people who hear it". I never claim that it is us who string together nonsensical syllables to form a language (which might be the case with heretics and apostasies nowadays), for I too believe that is not from the Holy Spirit. This is the reason why Apostle Paul exhorts the Church that the speaking in tongues is for the edification of self and not of the congregation. He also states that praises God for he speaks in tongues more than them. I hope therefore that you understood the context of this comment if I had confused you in the previous. God Bless. My comment *Rene Sam Koshy.....No I am not saying what you are saying in a different manner.* *True... you never claimed that it is us(you all) who string together nonsensical syllables to form a language ... but that's exactly what I am telling you .... you/they are doing. You all are stringing together nonsensical syllables trying to form a language which is NOT a language, it's just gibberish nonsense. That is not speaking in tongues and neither is that of God.* *This is what I mean.... some people think speaking in tongues is something (they) can do or (they) are supposed to do whenever they want too, which some call their prayer language, where they string up a bunch of nonsensical syllables trying to form a language, but that is NOT speaking in tongues at all and neither is that of God.* *The Holy Spirit is not giving the utterance when you do it yourself. When you do it yourself that is just you doing it and again that is not speaking in tongues.*
@donaldkeith139
@donaldkeith139 7 ай бұрын
Oh thank GOD for this! Such a level headed interpretation of the scriptures ♥
@gertswanepoel7424
@gertswanepoel7424 4 жыл бұрын
It is very clear they receive the abillity to speak a languages they could not do befor but the reason is they had to go to different counties to wittness so it is so nice if you csn speak to them face to face
@Denis-Antonio
@Denis-Antonio Жыл бұрын
Dr. Thomas Schreiner should write a book about this interesting subject.
@CarrieDMA
@CarrieDMA 4 жыл бұрын
Love this! Tom Schreiner is always gracious and reasoned in his answers to difficult questions. Thank you!
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised by a Grandma & Aunt who were the most devout Christians I have ever known. My Grandma would pray throughout the day, but in the evenings at dusk I can remember her speaking in tongues. My aunt and her little boys would speak in tongues. Absolutely beautiful. It's DEFINITELY it's own language. If you have heard it enough you can hear random people at church speaking in the EXACT same language. Louisiana & Texas, different churches and different faiths speaking the same dialect. I am a believer.
@AdoraMiller1023
@AdoraMiller1023 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I completely agree. I was raised in a very charismatic church and it was amazing and beautiful to hear my mom and others in church speak in tongues…
@elle5680
@elle5680 Жыл бұрын
The pentecostal speaking in tongues, they believe they're speaking angelic language. Hahaha! What a lot of gibberish nonsense, why would man speak angelic language.
@clinttullous5233
@clinttullous5233 Жыл бұрын
Speaking in tongues is the initial evidence that you have been babtized in the Holy Spirit! I thank God for mighty babtist in the Holy Spirit! Pray in tongues daily ! And Gods love fills my heart and help as me understand his word and teaching me to witness to people with power!!✌️🙏🏿❤️💯🙏
@tomtemple69
@tomtemple69 Жыл бұрын
that is nowhere in the Bible, Acts 2 and 10 were known languages, that is a fact and Luke uses the same word for tongues in Acts 19 you have to disregard Acts and the fact that Luke traveled with Paul and read your own interpretation into 1 Corinthians
@markmarshall8151
@markmarshall8151 4 жыл бұрын
I find your messages filled with truth and love. I spent three and a half years in the mountains of Mexico. I took them solar powered audio Bible's in their own language. I didn't teach them anything but to listen to the Word of God. I know that I will have to teach them something when I return. I like listening to your messages because I feel them in Spirit and much study into the Word. Everyone deserves to hear the Word of God in their own language. Even Indians.
@JonathanGillies
@JonathanGillies 2 жыл бұрын
Even Indians? Why do you say 'even'? :/
@rocioampuero1821
@rocioampuero1821 Жыл бұрын
Es solo una forma de expresarse , no está discriminando , así que tranquilo buen hombre.
@PaulDurai-ou9wd
@PaulDurai-ou9wd Жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord. Very good explanation which many Christians need to know and understand it. Many will hear but will not repent of their doings.
@scottandrewstudio4000
@scottandrewstudio4000 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see the subject being addressed. My question is this: if tongues are always a language that can be understood by men, then why is the “gift of interpretation” paired with the “gift of tongues?” In the answer to that, I believe you’re going to encounter the reason why speaking in tongues as initial evidence and speaking with the gift of tongues are distinct.
@rodriguezfamily888
@rodriguezfamily888 3 жыл бұрын
Because the person with the gift of interpretation will be able to explain the meaning to the whole congregation, thus edifying the entire church, and not only the hearer (person who understands). Remember, gifts were given and manifested for the edification of the church, not only for an individual alone. 1 Corinthians 14:12, and 1 Corinthians 12:7
@rodriguezfamily888
@rodriguezfamily888 3 жыл бұрын
Please provide me with scripture that says there are two different distinctions of tongues.
@scottandrewstudio4000
@scottandrewstudio4000 3 жыл бұрын
Rodriguez Family Acts 2 & 10, in both places you do not see someone with the “gift of interpretation” but you see them speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gave them the ability.
@rodriguezfamily888
@rodriguezfamily888 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottandrewstudio4000 thank you for bringing that up. You have to read in context what’s going on in Acts 2/10 and in the Corinthian church. In Acts 2, it says “they Each understood in their own native language”. Why would there need to be an interpreter. I apologize if I didn’t clarify in my original response...I was specifically talking about tongues being spoken during a Church service. Obviously, if there are only two people (1 believer with the gift of a tongue, and the other is an unbeliever) then an interpreter wouldn’t be needed. So we just need to apply some logic as well when we read the text. Not saying that you don’t...just saying in general. So yeah, that’s the difference. One important thing that I’ve learned over the years of Bible study is that you never want to bash two verses against each other. By doing so, you reject the word of God one way or another. All scripture is to be read with complimentary aspects. So thank you for bringing Acts 2 and 10 up. Also, wanted to note that tongues was also a gift to be used for an unbeliever (1st Corinthians 14:22). In which the Jews in Acts 2 were. Regarding Acts 10 - Let me just copy and paste the scripture “While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God. ‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:44-46‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Notice at the end, for they heard them speak in tongues and magnify God. If the Jews heard the tongues and that the gentiles were magnifying God... that means that they understood the language (tongue) that was being spoken by the Gentiles. Otherwise, how would they know if they were magnifying God?
@theoopsdrivers
@theoopsdrivers 2 жыл бұрын
Sad to see that instead of doing what the bible says and pursuing the gifts, people try to explain the gift away because they never were received it. Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14:18 that he spoke in tongues them all of them. He tells them that speaking in tongues in the church without interpretation would be no Bueno, but it does not change the fact that he spoke more than anyone else in tongues. The one who speaks in a tongue edifies himself. 1 Corinthians 14:4. When he talks about 1 Corinthians 14, he says, "That is possible... but I am not convinced..." then goes straight to another passage... One has to do much juggling to try to disprove that. I guess it is in vain I am writing this here, but just in case you did not click on this video to find another reason why you don't speak in tongues and to justify that your thought that people who utter words that no one understands are just babbling or miss informed, deceived or crazy, this next part is for you. Don't be afraid to keep seeking. Matthew 7:7 I was baptized in the Holy Spirit after I had an Honest prayer and asked God to change my life. My prayer was, literally, "God, I only go to church because my parents make me, I am 17 years old now, and I won't go back to church unless you change my life". I was tired of "going" to church, but I was not changed. Maybe this is what's missing for you? Ask God to change your life. He is more interested in this than yourself. My wife got the gift of tongues by herself in her room while studying for a math test. I have witnessed so many people's lives and also testimonies and stories that no theologian or anyone would be able to explain otherwise.
@bluerock5351
@bluerock5351 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a sober minded explanation. Thank you.
@jesuschristbiblebiblestudy
@jesuschristbiblebiblestudy 4 жыл бұрын
Concur. Amen
@Spawn08th
@Spawn08th 4 жыл бұрын
Blue Rock agreed.
@chevychelios4672
@chevychelios4672 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. That's why the disciples preach first to the unbelievers. John 17:17 "Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth. John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you-they are full of the Spirit and life. One passage said the gift of tongue is a sign for the unbelievers not for the believers and if the believers speak in tongue, they must pray so they can interpret it.
@micsaul7542
@micsaul7542 4 жыл бұрын
An English speaker should investigate the etymology of the words they use. Might find some witchcraft within.
@justinmayfield6579
@justinmayfield6579 4 жыл бұрын
I happen to disagree. If you're familiar with the texts and the normative Baptist position on this subject, it unfortunately comes off more like someone who is trying to force a meaning on the text. I would encourage you or anyone else to really dig into the texts and consider all sides on this. His interpretation is not the most natural when you really dig into the scriptures, in my opinion. That being said, I like some of his other videos, where he seems to be much more balanced.
@gglodz5343
@gglodz5343 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking in tongues is OBVIOUSLY in different languages in the book of Acts. It just makes so much sense
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 2 жыл бұрын
According to the original Greek ,that the N.T. was written in, our English word " tongues" is singular not plural and means " another language" and " a language".
@jivydremsa509
@jivydremsa509 9 ай бұрын
“For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14‬:‭2‬ ‭ESV‬‬ There seems to be a difference between tongues that others can understand and tongues that only God understands. Either way, it’s amazing and a privilege to be blessed with faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God bless everyone! Let’s continue to seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness!
@gwentomlinson8329
@gwentomlinson8329 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy listening to mature chrIstians who study the Bible and clearly get it. After 25 years of reading all the passages on this subject I think the way this gentleman articulated its meaning makes it very simple for anyone to understand it. Thank you for your video !
@mikebiasin1533
@mikebiasin1533 4 ай бұрын
The most important part of this whole video is what you said at the end. We're all brothers and sisters. Instead of debating this issue, let's encourage one another to study GOd's Word and witness. That's what is more important.
@jaydenanderson53
@jaydenanderson53 4 жыл бұрын
As a charismatic who believes in the gift of tongues and the power of the Holy Spirit I greatly appreciate this because I do think there are folks who place Too much of an emphasis on the Gifts rather than the gift-giver and I think the Pentecostal church as a whole maybe needs to re-examine that. I am thankful for this tho because he isn’t Bashing charismatics but just giving his informed opinion of the Bible. I can Definitely see both sides. Great stuff
@8thMusketeer
@8thMusketeer Жыл бұрын
A charismatic? Like, as in... you're good at charming people?
@prestonwheeler959
@prestonwheeler959 Жыл бұрын
I was raised if you don't speak in tongues you are not saved. I don't believe that anymore.
@michaelnapper4565
@michaelnapper4565 4 жыл бұрын
Great message! Well thought out and presented. I totally agree with every single word. So rare to find someone that rightly divides. Praise the Lord!!
@scostie
@scostie 4 жыл бұрын
Well then. What would you say to man who was raised in the Baptist church. Accepted Christ. And then started speaking in a language the he didn’t understand. The experience was like these “ spiritual utterances” you speak of. Well I was that young man. I had never even heard of this “speaking in tongues” before. They didn’t even talk about gifts of the spirit, at all, in that church in Warren, Michigan back in the 60’s & 70’s when I went there.
@JBViewTime
@JBViewTime 2 жыл бұрын
I love your explanations. Now when I was still Catholic I was offered the opportunity to receive the Holy Spirit. I was not pressured to speak in tongues. However, I bursted out in tongues. I hadn’t even read the Bible yet. That was in December of 1979. Again I agree with almost everything you shared, except now what was my reason or purpose for bursting out in a very clear new language? Love is far more important so I don’t need to debate or convince anyone about this. I’m just sharing my experience. Thanks
@mathiusr218
@mathiusr218 2 жыл бұрын
GOD bless you brother
@JonathanGillies
@JonathanGillies 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the following was a very interesting comment from someone else. God bless!!!!!!! :) "Great explanation and teaching here. Over the years I have heard a fairly common story from a number of missionaries - they have spoken of taking Christ to unchurched 3rd world countries and they saw some miraculous signs, including tongues. Then once they established local cell churches and were able to obtain bibles in the local languages, they said that the supernatural stuff (tongues) pretty much ceased. In hindsight they figured that God did not have to rely on that because they had the written Word. It seems to me that God will use any means necessary to give people a chance to hear the message of salvation thru Jesus Christ."
@kal-elsonofjor-el5770
@kal-elsonofjor-el5770 2 жыл бұрын
in experiences like yours, we as Christians have to remember that experience DOES NOT dictate truth. the word of God does. So if God decides to grant you the gift of tongues. its for His glory, for he delights himself in showing mercy and Grace. Not everything is so mysterious with God. If you have the gift of tongues, use it in accordance with the word of God, and ONLY in that way. You shall not be misguided.
@alainac.8183
@alainac.8183 10 ай бұрын
i wasnt even a christian when i recieved the spirit. I was a jehovahs witness then. Jehovah witnesses dont believe the hly spirot is a person but an active force. I believe 3 yrs ago i recieved the gift of hearing, but i didnt know it was the voice of the holy spirit, but i was puzzled. I decided to go into a church after convincing from my friend and i've been there since last year. I recieved tongues 5 days ago, its so interesting to me. You dont have control over it but i believe the holy spirit advocates through you
@phuabtsabchannel202
@phuabtsabchannel202 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation for people who have no experience in the gift of tongues. People who experience in the gift of tongues, they explain it in a slight different way. You do have the choice to Believe in your own way and understanding because people do have choices. Believe in either ways doesn’t disqualify you to go to heaven. So believe in your own way.
@shawng7902
@shawng7902 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are like a check list for me. Each one so far I've thought yes, that's exactly the way I understood it. Makes me feel like I'm on the right track.
@BobbyCarby
@BobbyCarby 3 жыл бұрын
And the Buddhist listening to a Buddhist teacher would make the same statement (feeling like he's on the right track). But I say he's on the wrong track.
@jimbuford4147
@jimbuford4147 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyCarby He has a loving way of presenting his understanding of the subject but from experience I can attest to the fact much of what he says is incorrect.
@ofmiceandmandrakes1005
@ofmiceandmandrakes1005 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation I've heard. Clear, concise and to the point
@oz8722
@oz8722 2 жыл бұрын
When I speak in tongues I speak in unknown languages and also known languages. I was speaking the other day and decided to google translate something that i assumed was in spanish. I spoke into my phone and the phrase translated into "Daddy, I love you" in spanish! I do not speak Spanish naturally. God is so good!
@tiwanstrong1413
@tiwanstrong1413 2 жыл бұрын
THAT IS NOT THE GIFT OF TONGUES THAT IS NOT THE WONDERFUL WORKS OF GOD THAT IS NOT WHAT IS DONE IN ACTS..... You orchestrated that yourself!!!! The Holy Spirit did not give you utterance according to the scripture that was something that you orchestrated and was able to look up on Google??? ARE you kidding me?
@cendallitak8140
@cendallitak8140 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i think I agree with you lol.
@obama-xi1ys
@obama-xi1ys 2 жыл бұрын
dont speak gibberish
@Josh-he7ty
@Josh-he7ty 2 жыл бұрын
As Americans, with Hispanic culture being prevalently integrated into our society, ”papa” and “amor” are recognizable words that a lot of Americans would intuitively know without a miraculous gift being given to them… just sayin… It’s like “konichiwa” or “hola” or “gazuntite” or “gracias” (I probably butchered the spelling of those words)
@adriaanj1808
@adriaanj1808 2 жыл бұрын
So, no gospel witness?
@robertj5208
@robertj5208 2 жыл бұрын
This is insanely profound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't try to hide from any related passage or belief.
@davidrose3737
@davidrose3737 2 жыл бұрын
If you do not have the gift, you can not comment on it. No more than an unsaved person can comment on being born again. I was born again at a Pentecostal Church. Was not brought up in a religious family. People were speaking in tongues all around me that night I got saved, but I did not get it! But I did get the most important thing salvation, and I felt it hallelujah, I knew I was a new creation. I was drying up a year later and a little depressed, that night I stayed in prayer room until I got it!!- I can tell you it is real 100% for today.. In fact we need it today more than ever!!! Its different anointings, but the same Holy Spirit. Your trying to explain something spiritual with your carnal mind.. You will never do it. For example: You cannot cast out the flesh or crucify a demon.
@jerrysingho1275
@jerrysingho1275 2 жыл бұрын
"He who is not with me is against me, He who does not gather with me scatters abroad " Matthew 12:30 Thank you for your elaborate explanation.
@passage2enBleu
@passage2enBleu 4 жыл бұрын
I love how people try to intellectually challenge this gift. It is a gift from God. If you ask for it, you will get it. If you refute it, you are losing out on so many blessings.
@sojyoommen5819
@sojyoommen5819 4 жыл бұрын
First of all you don't need to ask for a particular gift of the Holy Spirit. It's written that the Spirit gives as it chooses. The Holy Spirit is one Person of the Triune being. It knows your ministry and will give accordingly.
@petersommerfeld6600
@petersommerfeld6600 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Ken, it is like Luke 11:13, "... how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" The heavenly Father wants to give us the Holy Spirit! It is so odd that believers would reject it.
@chadnz1003
@chadnz1003 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@sojyoommen5819
@sojyoommen5819 4 жыл бұрын
@@petersommerfeld6600 people are not rejecting the Holy Spirit. This is regarding the understanding of tongues as mentioned in the scriptures. Today we really don't see the gift of tongues I.e. known languages. It's gibberish which is spoken and that too in all Charismatic and Pentecostal circles. Unfortunately if Tongues are One of the body parts as mentioned according to Paul then that's the body part we see all around in Charismatic circles. Interesting very interesting. God bless.
@IndianaJoe0321
@IndianaJoe0321 4 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a "gift" of the Holy Spirit. Translators insert that word into a translation, all in an effort to explain what are pneumatikos and the charisms. The "pneumatikos" (1 Cor 12:1) are not "gifts;" rather they are "spirituals" which are also referred to as "charisma" (1Cor 12:4) or "graces," "endowments," or "miraculous faculties." They are "manifestations" (1 Cor 12:7) of the Holy Spirit, as He wills (1 Cor 12:11), which are also synonymously referred to as "ministries" (1 Cor 12:5) and "workings" (1 Cor 12:6). The problem is that people call them "gifts," which is foreign to the Text. Obviously anything a person receives from God is a blessing or a gift, and it's certainly not earned. So to call the charismata "gifts" is simply an unnecessary redundancy, which gets misunderstood by modern English-speakers.
@selvamselvigec
@selvamselvigec 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very crystal clear and biblical exposition of tongues and baptism of the Holy. Spirit.
@genegroover3721
@genegroover3721 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful doxology. Your love and gentleness is evident. Thank you for this wonderful explanation.
@RockyTop85
@RockyTop85 2 жыл бұрын
This is what i have been arguing for years. People speaking in private another language they don’t understand have no way of knowing what they are saying! But it is still a real language - the true gift.
@benbenson1736
@benbenson1736 4 жыл бұрын
Amen to this powerful insight! Then what does it mean "to pray in the Spirit" according to Ephesians 6:18? How does one pray in the Spirit? What about, 1 Corinthians 14:14- "For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.
@EnydOfDays
@EnydOfDays 2 жыл бұрын
Then what does it mean "to pray in the Spirit" according to Ephesians 6:18? How does one pray in the Spirit? Paul says he prays in the Spirit AND with understanding. This is praying in tongues AND praying with his own words, The Spirit can pray though you for things you aren't aware of or things that are about to happen around you to prepare you ahead of time. 1 Corinthians 14:14- "For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. When you are alone praying in the Spirit, you don't always know what is being said. However, you may from time to time catch words that you do know and have an idea about what is being said. This does not need to be interpreted, it is done though faith. By praying in the Spirit it strengthens your own spirit and allows it to freely spend time connecting with the Spirit of God and your father. Tongues have different forms according to the bible. 1. It is usually the first sign of the Spirit Baptism, and becomes a way for your to pray with. 2. The GIFT of tongues which is different. The prayer language you can use anytime you want. The GIFT is at the Spirit's choosing and for HIS purpose. Either the person being spoken to understands the language OR the Spirit will interperit the message for others to understand. This is why it is to be limited IF no interpretation is present. This is not true of praying in the Spirit. 3. You can sing in tongues/the Spirit, Paul mentions all three in his letters.
@kateotokhs
@kateotokhs 2 жыл бұрын
@@EnydOfDays 👍🏾
@prettylady8133
@prettylady8133 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this message of TRUTH!! AMEN!!
@glencrs
@glencrs 4 жыл бұрын
WELL, THAT WAS EXCELLENT Thank you for carrying on through the other incidents of the speaking.
@jrlambert1866
@jrlambert1866 2 жыл бұрын
I was converted from a life of sin to following Jesus. At age 21 I sought God for a deeper experience and more power over sin. He baptized me in the holy ghost, I uttered a single word that came to my mind. Since then my utterances have became more of what I call ecstatic utterances. Often it comes to me while laying on hands to pray for the sick, they receive healing often times. Not because of my utterances but rather because of their faith in God for healing. I have never in 55 years been told I was speaking a particular dialec. I suppose if the circumstances were right it would happen. Very good explanation on the tongues issue pastor. God bless you all.
@robhudson7460
@robhudson7460 4 жыл бұрын
Great message! A very good explanation of this concept. I grew up in assembly/ church of God settings and all “speaking in tongues” did was confuse and scare me. At 17 I went to the altar only to be greeted by a man fully expecting me to break out in tongues as “proof” of salvation. I could not, and shortly after left the church only to spend the next 20 years in the wilderness. I do believe that which is perfect has come, the Bible, and that there is no need for that gift in our lives. I do believe it had a great purpose in the early church though. But now that we have Gods word there is no need to force ourselves to muster up a gift that could not circumvent what God has sent to us.
@brucemoeller
@brucemoeller 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Rob. There appears to be a lot of layers to the issue of tongues in a group setting. I wasn't really thinking about "foreign languages" as such. It appears that your experience at 17 was quite detrimental to your faith walk, as it put this pressure on you to spontaneously "speak" in a language you were unprepared to speak. It seems like it meant that the "man who expected you to break out in tongues" was elevated above you. The notion I believe is that we are all to encourage and lift each other up, and that is the body of Christ, a purpose of the church. It failed miserably because you weren't being nurtured. We know that God has his own timeline, so I feel bad that you were treated like that.
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 2 жыл бұрын
The scripture " When that which is perfect shall come" doesn't refer to the finished cannon of the Bible but to the return of Christ and His kingdom. When Jesus returns He isn't taking us all to heaven He's bringing heaven with Him.
@ryangalligan1040
@ryangalligan1040 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a gift and an amazing gift. I never prayed in tongues, but praying in the spirit keeps me strong and repels demons
@tammymacdonald11
@tammymacdonald11 3 жыл бұрын
Praise God for this message. I'm tired of people telling me that gibberish is a spiritual language between them and God. No one is allowed to speak that demonic language around me. If I hear it, I rebuke it right away. Glory be to God! The holy Bible is translated in every single language of this world. Show me one that translates gibberish. I thank God for all of you who actually have the knowledge and discernment the holy spirit of God has given you! May HE dwell in you until the end!🙌❤
@TrustworthyExpert
@TrustworthyExpert 4 жыл бұрын
First of all, You are a great man of God. Since you believe the Bible, and see that a good percentage of believers in the Bible spoke in tongues, what do you think about that no one in your church displays this gift?
@jerardosc9534
@jerardosc9534 2 жыл бұрын
He thinks the gifts have ceased
@toserious2587
@toserious2587 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jesus, one of my friends is struggling with this very topic this one is for her.
@jesuschristbiblebiblestudy
@jesuschristbiblebiblestudy 4 жыл бұрын
Among the best responses to this topic to date. Amen
@zacksportsman352
@zacksportsman352 2 жыл бұрын
That passage in 1 Corinthians 12 is not talking about the Baptism of the Spirit at conversion like in Acts 2, 10 and 19. If you look at the context Paul is talking about Spiritual Gifts. To which the gift of tongues that is given to someone is also accompanied by the gift of interpretation to another person. So that the function is in fact a message in tongues that is interpreted for the edification of the gathering of believers. Dr. Schreiner did a great job of documenting and articulating with faithfulness to the text the conversion experience of the baptism of the Spirit in Acts but conveniently skipped over the context of 1 Corinthians 12 and chose not to use exegetical faithfulness in which upon examination would reveal a conclusion that goes against his confession of faith regarding the spirit. Namely that the Baptism of the Spirit is accompanied by tongues as the testimony of Acts reveals over and over and 1 Corinthians 12 is talking about Spiritual Gifts that are an ongoing function in the ministry of the church to which as Paul says, "some do not have that gift" but perhaps have the gift of knowledge, wisdom or interpretation. Again, Paul in 1 Corinthians 12 was not talking about the tongues that accompany the Baptism of the Spirit at conversion like we see in Acts but the ongoing function of spiritual gifts in the ministry of the church for the edification of the gathering of believers.
@brandono7003
@brandono7003 3 жыл бұрын
He speaks kindly about his skepticism of speaking in a prayer language and I'm happy about that. However, I wouldn't give up my prayer language for anything and God has given me these utterances many times.
@2011hib
@2011hib 3 жыл бұрын
I sp0le in tongues and I faked it to please the charismatics around me. Oh were they happy for me......
@brandono7003
@brandono7003 3 жыл бұрын
@@2011hib why would you lie about it? That's sin.
@VocMusTcrMaloy
@VocMusTcrMaloy 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the people with whom I disagree on this topic, this is the best, most comprehensive discussion! This gentleman is someone with whom I would love to converse in person because he can disagree without being disagreeable! I do have a couple of things with which I would disagree. The first is rather broad about the way he discussed verses from a subjective perspective. The second is the way he tried to unite Acts 2:4 with 1 Corinthians 14:2. Acts 2 was certainly human languages; but, 1 Corinthians 14:2 is equally certainly non-human languages “NO man understandeth him.” The uniting factor is not which language, but that the Holy Spirit gives the utterance (Acts 2:4)
@emiliadjalili7719
@emiliadjalili7719 5 ай бұрын
If I speak a language f.e. Spanish to non Spanish speaking people no man would understand me.
@leroijr407
@leroijr407 Күн бұрын
You say he is incorrect in believing it's all one tongue, and not 2 different. But think of when Paul says if you have no interpreter, to keep it private. This is being said of the same tongue, not another. The same tongue that is used for edifying the entire church, Paul says should be used to edify yourself to God in private when there is no interpreter. There is one gift of tongue, and one interpretation of tongue gift, not 2. To say they are separate, is adding into scripture my friend.
@VocMusTcrMaloy
@VocMusTcrMaloy 22 сағат бұрын
@@emiliadjalili7719 Spanish men would understand you. Paul is talking about a tongue that NO man understands.
@VocMusTcrMaloy
@VocMusTcrMaloy 21 сағат бұрын
@@leroijr407 I’m not saying that there is a difference in private tongues and public tongues. I’m just observing what is in the scripture. I Corinthians 14:2 refers to a tongue “NO man understandeth.” Acts 2 describes tongues that different people understood. “And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, -- Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.” These are descriptions of two different manifestations of the miracle of tongues. One is human languages and the other is a language that humans do not understand.
@JT-ts6nr
@JT-ts6nr 4 жыл бұрын
This was explained well. It is not controversial to me, I believe in speaking in tongues but I know it does not mean that anyone will be barred from heaven for not speaking in tongues.
@lleange363
@lleange363 4 жыл бұрын
yes whether u have it or not but the problem is tagging ppl that they are from satan if they speak in tongues is blasphemy to the holy spirit
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 3 жыл бұрын
The Holy Spirit baptism is how the Holy Spirit is recieved in the first place and the initial evidence that this has occured is speaking in " tongues" which is one spiritual language. Not having this experience will keep millions out of heaven.
@ngugisimon6471
@ngugisimon6471 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertnieten7259 I don't understand this 🤔 Samson was filled with the spirit of the Lord in need of his strength, he was not baptized? I believe in the parable of the vine dresser the branch that does not produce good fruits will be thrown into the fire speaking in tongues is not amongst the fruits. Be careful because if your speaking in toungue are not from The Holy Spirit that is mocking and blasphemy which Jesus said that is unforgivable.
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 3 жыл бұрын
@@ngugisimon6471 Samson and the prophets of the O.T. had the Holy Spirit come upon them and fill them but then depart for a time because God hadn't yet made being " born of the Spirit" available to man yet. Being " born of the Spirit" is to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. That is to be filled to overflowing. This is caused by praying to be filled until God answers our prayer and does so. Then we must surrender our tongue to the Spirit until He takes control of it and enables us to speak in the spiritual language that the English translation calls " tongues". When this occurs it triggers the filling overflow. At that moment the Holy Spirit joins with ours and remains within us. Speaking in this spiritual language is God giving us and those praying with us supernatural evidence that we have recieved the Holy Spirit. Recieving the Holy Spirit is to vital to our salvation for God to leave it up to man to say when we have or haven't recieved so He provides this sign.
@ngugisimon6471
@ngugisimon6471 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertnieten7259 I believe in the Holy Spirit because Jesus baptized us with The Holy Spirit and Fire Luke 3 .I also believe that The Holy Spirit helps us to pray Romans 8:26-27. I just want to understand where it's written in the scripture you have to speak in tongues to enter Heaven because I don't understand please help.
@bradfordcox8415
@bradfordcox8415 2 жыл бұрын
Great job - referencing only scriptures. Refreshing over those quote themselves and make up stuff. Thank you.
@aprilbartlett4328
@aprilbartlett4328 4 жыл бұрын
Having been given the private language of tongues, I have often stated that it moves ME out of the way so that my intellect loses control and my spirit then communicates with my Father. When I have stepped back a bit, the language sounds like a legitimate language but I cannot understand and thus I lose control of it and my spirit speaks to His Spirit. If we listen to others speaking in a legitimate language we do not know like Estonian for example, it sounds a bit like gibberish but it is not gibberish but a valid language we simple do not understand. The Professor's explanation is very good and very grounded. I thank him for helping me explain my private language to others in a way that does not freak them out.
@nascrux6079
@nascrux6079 3 жыл бұрын
I just received the gift of tongues today! And you are spot on, it sounds gibberish but it has a pattern and it simply cannot be made up in your mind. I am able to let myself go and pray in the spirit. I'm so thankful to be given this gift ✝️ God is awesome!
@neoneherefrom5836
@neoneherefrom5836 3 жыл бұрын
No linguistics expert ever proclaims this to be an actual language.
@szaylah
@szaylah 3 жыл бұрын
I find that ecstatic utterance happens when rejoicing in my spirit to God our Father but it is subject to the prophets ie me, it's the river of water spring up in my spirit. Mostly happens when I hear testimony of our Lords goodness and graciousness. ❤ I don't try to prove anything to anyone because I'm speaking to God and am being deified at the same time! 🙏
@rodriguezfamily888
@rodriguezfamily888 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm...one of the fruits of the Spirit is self-control. So by saying the Spirit causes you to lose self-control is in direct contradiction of His nature. Read Galatians 5:22-23
@neoneherefrom5836
@neoneherefrom5836 3 жыл бұрын
“Speaking in tongues” or ecstatic utterances or glossolalia as it is known academically is actually not unique to Christianity and can be found in other religions. Although I would presume most here would consider them possessed rather than blessed. :)
@tonymagliano5423
@tonymagliano5423 4 жыл бұрын
I speak English Italian and my native dialect fluently. I can interpret them very good, yes I to speak in tongues, and yes seek olso other gifts, God is awesome
@Boogie7910
@Boogie7910 3 жыл бұрын
Are you saying anyone who knows another language has the gift of tongues?
@tonymagliano5423
@tonymagliano5423 3 жыл бұрын
@@Boogie7910 tongues is understood languages, not gibberish talk, at Pentecoste they spoke in different languages, everyone understood them speaking in their own (language ) and they marveled, ( understood languages )
@sisterthroughchrist532
@sisterthroughchrist532 3 жыл бұрын
no. You learned those idioms. When the Holy Spirit indwell on us, we speak His Tongue. A language mankind cannot understand. That i s the Gift Paul spoke about. People who are not blessed with it, go to extremes trying to deny it happens. And nowadays, it is increasing the number of people truly baptiazed by the fire of the Holy SPirit. And the first Gift given is Tongues.
@MrJvelazquez77
@MrJvelazquez77 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up in conservative roots this is exactly how I used to believe, until the day I received the gift of tongues. It's impossible to believe something exists until you experience it. I used to pray in private to not offend anyone until one day visiting another church I was praying in tongues and someone in the crowd heard me and were given interpretation! It is true even if your theology doesn't add up. We can't box God in our theology and pretend we know all about him
@CDC39A
@CDC39A 4 жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite. I was born and raised in it, 5th generation Pentecostal. I was even a licensed minister. Now I am URCNA (Dutch Reformed). Much of what goes on is not the same as Acts 2, it is emotionalism and chaos.
@chrisbennett3290
@chrisbennett3290 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but everything the bible says is true and if we study it we can know truth. That being said I'm with you and I don't think his reading of 1 Cor. 14 makes sense. It edifys us but we don't understand or know what we're saying.
@tavojaramillo1739
@tavojaramillo1739 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%! You have to experience it. The power of God is real! The gifts of the Holy Spirit are real! Wake up church. A powerless church is not a threat to the devil.
@isanna6075
@isanna6075 4 жыл бұрын
Same happened to me. I was driving back home from the evening chruch service and suddenly just started spewing out this crazy stuff. I hadn't been searching/praying for tongues..it just happened.
@user-kq5qp6dh8l
@user-kq5qp6dh8l 4 жыл бұрын
Be very very careful with that, Yoy maybe blaspheming GOD. VERY DANGEROUS.
@naomimafemera4860
@naomimafemera4860 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you sir 🙏 Thank you so much 🙏 .I have experience some of the things that you mention.
@debby1321
@debby1321 4 жыл бұрын
This is so wonderfully spoken, well articulated! I’ve always struggled with explaining this and this video has enlightened me. God bless 🙏
@jimbuford4147
@jimbuford4147 2 жыл бұрын
He explained as best he could something he has not experienced and much of what he says is true but much is flawed as well. Point is don't think this is the final word on the subject. An argument will just not overpower an experience.
@Romans_116
@Romans_116 2 жыл бұрын
You struggle in explaining an experience you never had? But now can explain an experience you still don’t have because you heard someone articulate it better than you? Interesting…
@branDrew310
@branDrew310 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless of whether tongues is actual language or an utterance we should not deny the power the word says it gives us for personal edification. So if I give utterance or speak a foreign language that My mind doesn’t understand, and I do that in my prayer closet, the word says I can be personally edified and built up. Faith comes by hearing the word of God. I also believe faith can come by discerning truth in my inner being that i can’t express. If the word says “do not worry” I agree that it is beneficial to trust God. I can read other scriptures about the faithful nature of God and build my faith and peace upon those truths until I can approach my circumstance that is tempting me to worry with full assurance that God is sovereign over that situation. I can also pray and the Holy Spirit can reveal the faithful nature of God to my inner man and bypass my understanding and give me a sense of assurance. We carry Jesus inside of us. There are two ways to access the spirit of truth dwelling in us. Renewing our mind by the word (Romans 12), or revelation by the Holy Spirit that searches the mind and heart of God and reveals Gods thoughts to us. “But, as it is written, "What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him"- these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:9-10‬ ‭ESV‬‬ We can have a sense of discernment about a matter that connects to Gods truth that can come from the Spirit that dwells in us. If you open your mouth in utterance and it sounds like gibberish there is no instruction against it and you don’t have to be afraid of people who do that. I would say maybe don’t do it in a gathering where it is a distraction but if you get in your closet feel free to speak gibberish to God then go on that journey. I did that and I began sensing things to pray for with intelligible words. I did not let fear prevent me from exercising faith. If you feel weird about it then don’t do it. How do you know whether you are or are not speaking a foreign language anyway and if it’s for personal edification where as prophesy is for edifying the body why would you speak a tongue or foreign language to God if you cannot understand it and how can that edify you? Could God also grant someone the ability to understand someone like a child who cannot speak well yet? Could he also do the same to someone who desires to speak Godly truth that hasn’t had a chance to study the word. What happens when someone is hungry for the truth of God and they can’t read? These are all questions we should ask in the context of these gifts of God. It’s not soo much about mind reading or mysticism but about a hungry person with integrity who desires to commune with God and find ways to express the goodness the God they have encountered. I love reading the word to gain what the writers inspired by the Holy Spirit we’re trying to convey to us, but I hope we will be careful not to create more boundaries God never placed on us. When a child is learning how to speak the things he desires to communicate are very real to him but he doesn’t have the language to describe them yet. He has the freedom to sound funny or say things wrong and hopefully eventually learns how to speak at a pace all can understand. As we discover these the place all gifts of God have in our lives the body of Christ should be a place of freedom to discover, maybe get some things wrong, and ultimately know God more and be known more. Ultimately we have to test the spirit like the word says and that requires discernment. There are people who know the word very well that operate in the wrong spirit and there are many believers bearing good fruit who aren’t well versed and don’t do things by the book often times. That doesnt always disqualify them. Anyway that was my long drawn out expression, thanks to anyone who took the time to read ;)
@manaftergodsheart
@manaftergodsheart 2 жыл бұрын
I was in fast and I felt compelled to start praying privately in tongues and the Holy Spirit really elevated my heart, mind, and soul. Like that first time you came to Christ and started radiating warm loving chills. I’m a Baptist.
@shawnmccafferty3443
@shawnmccafferty3443 2 жыл бұрын
Exact same feelings. I just take off, I felt nothing but love and peace. I’m a Christian. Took a video so I could try and interpret what I was saying
@corbinclarke9795
@corbinclarke9795 2 жыл бұрын
🧢 God grants gifts for the edification of the congregation not for self edifying use. Also without an interpreter present it would only puff up the tongues speaker in pride it would not bring forth humility. All charismatics use the same logic, just like the Mormons burning in the bosom it’s nonsense
@obama-xi1ys
@obama-xi1ys 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnmccafferty3443 dont speak gibberish
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 2 жыл бұрын
@@obama-xi1ys Considering that no person normally speaks in the spirit, doing so would sound like gibberish to one who didn't recognize that it is a spiritual language not native to this world.
@julienielsen3746
@julienielsen3746 2 жыл бұрын
@@corbinclarke9795 All I did was ask God to Baptize me in the Holy Spirit and give me the gift of speaking in tongues. Nothing happened for about a day. Then I started "hearing" this language in my spirit. Then I opened my mouth and it came out. That was in 1987. I pray for different reasons. Sometimes when I don't know what to pray. Like praying for what's going on in our nation, or the world. God knows. I don't. It's the Holy Spirit speaking through me, when I don't know what o pray. Sometimes it comes out singing. Sometimes I do it in Praise.
@kennethrodgers21
@kennethrodgers21 2 жыл бұрын
A comprehensive & fair discussion of Tongues. I appreciate your honest clarity .. especially understandable Scriptural Support for your conclusions. I agree with most of what you say ! Yet I note you offer No Scriptural Support for your final surmise " No Longer Operative Today "
@drpauldurai
@drpauldurai 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much pastor for the wonderful explanation. Many don't understand and think of being more spiritual. God Bless you
@ajo1124
@ajo1124 Жыл бұрын
Very VERY well explained. THANK YOU... I agree with your wisdom on this subject. God Bless you Brother
@suzannebest7475
@suzannebest7475 2 жыл бұрын
I will share my experience with speaking in tongues-raised Baptist and while attending a Baptist church, I was introduced to the concept of speaking in tongues. I am of a very literal mind set and need to have information that fully explains. Two ladies in the class shared there experience of praying in tongues. I felt in my heart that they were telling the truth but because of who I am, I took it to the Lord and asked Him to reveal the truth. Immediately I was led to several scriptures that confirmed what they had shared. I quietly informed the Lord that if He wanted me to have this...I wanted it. That was in 1984 and I’m still praying in tongues. What you have shared is only part of the story. Tongues are often a heavenly language but just as often an earthly language unknown to the speaker.
@paulrock4816
@paulrock4816 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we just don't know how to pray & the Spirit gives utterances. Who knows God but the Spirit. He that prayeth in an unknown tongue prays not to men but unto God. God knows the heart when the Spirit speaketh in groans which we ourselves don't know. Paul Thanked God he spoke in tongues more than anyone else. But I would rather speak words you can understand, Paul also said I would rather go & be with the Lord, but for your sake, I remain. He knew how important it was for his teaching over any gift or his departure. Funny we look at Salvation as a gift, but we can't look at the gift of the Spirit as gifts. I do love how this guy comes across, I think if there is a gentle way this man knows how to do it without flat out denying it. I hope this is how I look at differences like pre-trib as an example.
@rob2estonia
@rob2estonia 4 жыл бұрын
Finally some solid teaching on the gift of tongues.
@JTKAMI
@JTKAMI 4 жыл бұрын
Just because the Holy Ghost shows a man Jesus is Lord how does that mean he is saved? The Spirit says to a man "Hey here is salvation, believe in Jesus", you accept, but you still according to scripture have to be baptized in the water and the Spirit (John 3:5). We know that to be baptized is a necessary action to receive salvation. The evidence is you get wet when you are baptized (which in Greek means immersed). No man had received the baptism on the Spirit until the day of Pentecost. There were "signs" that followed. When the disciples witnessed to the gentiles the "saw" that the Spirit was in them the exact same way ( Acts 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? ) This is WAY more then just confessing with the mouth that Jesus is Lord. Many people sit in church every Sunday and confess Jesus is Lord just like the demons, but when they go home and reject their daughter for dating another race, when they go to work and cuss like a sinner, when they go to the casinos and spend Gods money on greed, when they support anti-abortion and vote to stop food stamps and support for the same woman that they want to force to have the child ("not my child not my problem, Im a Christian) they are not saved. They are hypocrites. We know how God feels about hypocrites.
@cast9687
@cast9687 4 жыл бұрын
God bless everyone, here is wisdom ill share this wonderful event and what really happen so you can ask the Holy Spirit and he will guide you to truth but here it is!!!its amazing because not only did they received the gift of tongues but also the gift of interpretation of tongues!!!but not all because some thought they were drunk and couldnt understand...and Paul knows it better than anyone else because he speaks about it!!!God Bless All
@ryanwaldrop90
@ryanwaldrop90 4 жыл бұрын
Who has to prove anything? Ive never spoke in tongues but i know the holy spirit lives in me
@imafriend1336
@imafriend1336 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Waldrop nope
@lae7394
@lae7394 4 жыл бұрын
The Bible says the tongues are the evidence for the Holy Spirit
@naoldemisse1316
@naoldemisse1316 4 жыл бұрын
You cant be a Christian and not have the holy spirit. But the baptism of the holy spirit is a different thing. The disciples already received the holy spirit before Pentecost day. Because Jesus said to them "receive the holy spirit" and he breathed on them. But they still had to be baptized in the holy spirit to preach the gospel boldly, to do miracles and etc. So don't be ignorant but humbly ask God for the gift, because its a promise to all believers.
@livingforChrist
@livingforChrist Жыл бұрын
@@lae7394where does it say that clearly?
@thebadcatholic7473
@thebadcatholic7473 4 жыл бұрын
My name is Fabrizio Tommasi. I can see your sincere teaching. I am sure that we have understanding of what the Holy Spirit is trying to do. Our intellect gets in the way. Tongues is a language. Nothing about ecstasy. My wife keeps on saying that common sense is isn't common. It's clear that Saint Paul also say that when you speak in tongues, do it in private. Goodness, he spoke tongues more than anyone. The work of the Holy Spirit was to comfort us and lead us, continually showing us Jesus. But the most important was helping us to understand and know God. Thank God for the Holy Ghost.
@petersommerfeld6600
@petersommerfeld6600 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else find it strange that someone who does not speak in tongues gives a teaching about speaking in tongues?? I grew up Lutheran, no one ever told me about the gift of tongues except for one negative story. When I read Mark 16:17-18 I was shocked to read that if we believe, certain signs will follow us, one of them being speaking in tongues. I received the Holy Spirit baptism in the city park in 2014 and immediately spoke tongues that I never learned. It is a beautiful gift that I exercise daily in my personal prayer time.
@mr.francois5538
@mr.francois5538 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Sommerfeld was this baptism of water? I really want this gift and I know God will gift me this ability!!
@petersommerfeld6600
@petersommerfeld6600 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.francois5538 thanks for your reply. I was baptized in water in March 2014 and recieved the Holy Spirit baptism in August. They are two separate events although I have also witnessed some get baptized in water and come out of the water speaking in new tongues. You can read how it this was a separate event in Acts 19:3 and Acts 8:16-17. Keep seeking it until you receive it, ask Jesus to baptize you with the Holy Spirit. I prayed for this a long time, but when it happened it was very sudden. Now I've prayed for people myself and sometimes they speak in tongues almost right away. Others need to just spend time with Jesus and surrender anything remaining in their life that Holy Spirit is showing them, and then the promise is that they will receive the Holy Spirit. Also get baptized in water after repenting of sins of you have not done so already. God bless you!
@petersommerfeld6600
@petersommerfeld6600 4 жыл бұрын
@Awesome American Atheist I never went to a Pentecostal Church to hear about this. I read the Bible for myself and believed it, and then asked Jesus for the Holy Spirit. Be blessed in Jesus name
@myrtleesther8855
@myrtleesther8855 4 жыл бұрын
Peter I believe your experience and I has similar even before I set foot in a church building, I was born again after calling on the name of Jesus whilst in my sitting room over 48 years ago approx , I spoke to Jesus asking Him to teach me and guide my life into right ways. A few years later when I had a crisis in my life and experienced great suffering, I prayed and asked to be comforted and then immediately received the baptism of the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues, I did not understand what had happened until some time later when I started attending a Church building and other people had the gift of speaking in tongues too. I now pray in tongues as The Holy Spirit leads and I worship God in Spirit and in truth as I am also led to sing in The Spirit too. I have been born again approx 48 years now. We must be careful not to insult the work of The Holy Spirit, I do not question that what I have received is from God. I know the enemy will counterfeit all he can but this scripture I share is where I stand in trusting God that what I have received is a gift from a good Father to His child. Luke 11:11-13 (KJV) 11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
@petersommerfeld6600
@petersommerfeld6600 4 жыл бұрын
@@myrtleesther8855 That's an amazing testimony, thanks for sharing! Yes I believe the Holy Spirit is grieved to see people teaching against the gifts of the Spirit, and some may have even blasphemed the Holy Spirit :( I just shared the scripture from Luke with a mother and daughter who received the Holy Spirit with tongues. They came from "New Age", were delivered from demons, baptized and received the Holy Spirit!
@jeanwissinger6013
@jeanwissinger6013 5 ай бұрын
Being able to be understood by anyone regardless of their language. That is how I've always understood it.
@krombopulosmicheal2436
@krombopulosmicheal2436 4 жыл бұрын
I love this, it's completely unbiased...compared to people always just using one or two verse to make there claim but can't answer the the other verses I bring up.
@SheepAmongG.O.A.T
@SheepAmongG.O.A.T 4 жыл бұрын
www.gotquestions.org/gift-of-tongues.html
@paulrock4816
@paulrock4816 4 жыл бұрын
If other Ministers came across like this guy, the churches would get along better.
@justinmayfield6579
@justinmayfield6579 4 жыл бұрын
It's very biased, unfortunately.
@bobrome6549
@bobrome6549 4 жыл бұрын
@@justinmayfield6579 I read this as biased too "I argue...", I'm not convinced..." I added my 2 cents in the comments above. Nothing new or profound presented - staying in the old Baptist doctrinal lane.
@peninahkatushabe6085
@peninahkatushabe6085 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, best explanation I have ever heard on the Subject. I am pentecostal and have never spoken in tongues but am certain of my Spiritual Baptism. I have been told before that I have not desired the gift enough to receive it which is totally unscriptural since all in all the scriptures he quoted, non that received the gift desired it. Thank you so much for confirming this truth.
@julienielsen3746
@julienielsen3746 2 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is ask God for the ability to speak in tongues and believe He will and He will give it to you. Nothing happened for about a day after I asked. Then I started to "hear" this language in my spirit. Then I opened my mouth and it came out.
@Gremllion
@Gremllion 4 жыл бұрын
Also I have been in church and heard a tongue come forth and a translation with a Greek visitor confirming the tongue was in Greek and the translation was in English. That's a notification that the spirit is there but just babbling has run many young converts away thinking that they are crazy
@inthisdayage7617
@inthisdayage7617 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise I saw a 7 year old handicapped boy speak in tongues and he was speaking in French Creole, the woman was a nonbeliever, the daughter a believer. She verified he spoke fluent French Creole and became saved. This boy had no idea what he was speaking until the Hatian lady interpreted.
@youngknowledgeseeker
@youngknowledgeseeker 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. These stories are a amazing.
@jovemministro
@jovemministro Жыл бұрын
Biblical answer! Right from the beginning to the end. Congrats.
@PastorZeke33
@PastorZeke33 4 жыл бұрын
It is the same exact gift in Acts 2 & Acts 8. They spoke languages which they had not learned to speak. Paul says that it can be both angelic and human languages. The initial speaking in tongues is a sign that one has received the baptism of the Holy Spirit. That is what Peter explained to the crowd on the day of Pentecost. "Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear." What did they see and hear? They seen men from Galilee speaking in several different languages which they had never learned. Is it for today? According to Peter in Acts 2 this promise is " to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”" This includes us today. According to Jude, it is very important to build one's self up in their most holy faith, praying in the Spirit. I have had the pleasure of laying hands on many people, even some who came from Baptist churches and did not believe in this gift from God. After showing them what the Word of God clearly teaches in order to tear down the strongholds in their minds from incorrect teaching, they received the promise of the Father (baptism of the Holy Spirit) with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues which they had never learned. God is awesome and He only gives good gifts to His children! The "burden of proof" is actually not on the one with a biblical experience, but on the one who is trying to explain why they have not experienced it.
@carlosreira2189
@carlosreira2189 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, brother Zeke. I like your quoting of the phrase "good gifts to his children," and in another Gospel--"the Holy Spirit to them that ask," amen?
@knit-sewdelight8664
@knit-sewdelight8664 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully taught and completely from the scripture!!!
@reverendv8900
@reverendv8900 2 жыл бұрын
When God filled me with His Spirit, I got on my feet and raised my hands to the sky - I had believed 12 days prior. I began to speak in another language but did not know what was happening as I had yet to get to the book of Acts or Corinthians and had never read the Bible before. The language seemed to me to be beyond me and not coming by my will and it was not a language that sounded earthly. Also, I had no idea what was being said as I only speak English and nobody else was present. I have since concluded that this experience was an overflow, an ecstatic overflow, coming from the Holy Spirit. I have NEVER once had the same experience and most certainly do not have any gift of tongues.
@markgonzalez3169
@markgonzalez3169 3 жыл бұрын
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@tdoc9051
@tdoc9051 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, and one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is the interpretation of tongues
@georgeherod4252
@georgeherod4252 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you about the tongues being language. The Jewish Christians were very uneasy about the gentiles having a genuine salvation. Cornelius suddenly speaking in Hebrew would leave know doubt
@thehanker5347
@thehanker5347 4 жыл бұрын
One time, and one time only, have I heard genuine tongue speaking, the whole congregation was soaked in silence and out of the blue someone spoke an utterance that clearly was another language (not chakaba-Chakaba-gibberage)-and at that time it came with an immediate interpretation from someone else at the the other end of the room.
@endsonjabu7035
@endsonjabu7035 4 жыл бұрын
How did this happen brother? Was the church singing or was it in the middle of the preaching? Were the other congregate so quiet that everyone heard the other person speaking in a tongue? What language was it? I am simply learning the scriptures and eager to understand this situation
@thehanker5347
@thehanker5347 4 жыл бұрын
Endson jabu It was at a baptist charismatic church. Now I know that to many many catholics (I am myself catholic) this immediately raises suspicions. It shouldn’t. It’s massively scriptural. However, the way it’s used by people in the charismatic church and in home groups, I never understood. It’s all self-formulated gibberage. Except this time. I have no idea what the language was, it could have been angels’ language, but it happened exactly the way it should according to scripture. Sorry I Can’t say much more about it. It was during worship (charismatic church seldom follows order of mass). The presence of the Holy spirit was tangible.
@endsonjabu7035
@endsonjabu7035 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have understood.
@JonathanGillies
@JonathanGillies 2 жыл бұрын
@The Hanker. But you are a Catholic? That is worrying! :O The RCC teaches a false gospel! :(
@thehanker5347
@thehanker5347 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanGillies I certainly can see how non-catholics regard Mary-prayers and other things as false gospel. Those things doesn’t bother me anymore than home made tounge speaking. However, the pope’s more and more liberal stance and bed-ins with the elite is far worse.
@jimdickey3608
@jimdickey3608 2 жыл бұрын
nice presentation. clearly speaking in tounges was normative in the early church. There are lots of people who haven't experienced it today, and so rather than just seek and receive, people are trying to justify not having the experience. Is God the same yesterday, today and forever? Yes. So, if you are willing to limit or exclude yourself from something that happened in the early church, are you also willing to exclude yourself from miracles, healings, and other regluar aspects of early christian life? A friend once put it this way. "can you be an elephant without having a trunk? Yes, but you can't eat peanuts very well"
@derek8408
@derek8408 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing this video for the first time, and I would just like to say thank you Doctor for clearing that up and sharing your knowledge and wisdom for all who want to hear. I was very sceptical on tongue speaking today and no one truly gave me a clear answer that I can understand. But now my understanding has been strengthened. I wasn't against it just sceptical, I never wanted to create a statement because of the chance of making conflict when we all want to serve God. Thank you very much Doctor.
@robertnieten7259
@robertnieten7259 2 жыл бұрын
Three times in the book of Acts it is recorded that believers recieved the Holy Spirit. In all three instances the first thing that happened was that they spoke in tongues. Now believers who haven't spoken in tongues must ask themselves if, in God's eyes, these three instances show what they should expect as proof that they have recieved is speaking in tongues or not.
@jennifers3112
@jennifers3112 3 жыл бұрын
Great distinction between speaking in tongyes VS ecstatic utterances . Thanks
@samuel.a2234
@samuel.a2234 4 жыл бұрын
I actually admire & respect him for clearly saying “I DON’T THINK...” when citing his positions. He’s clearly walking in the light that he has for now. I’m sure his position would change later when he receives more light about this subject. Nobody/denomination has the full counsel of God. That’s why, we are all parts in the body of Christ.
@justinamusyoka4986
@justinamusyoka4986 4 жыл бұрын
As he gets to understand about tongues,many things are going wrong in the body of the messiah(christ) bc many diverse tongues have infiltrated those utilising them.I've seen the Hindu Kundalini spirit operating in churches and there's no telling when demons start whispering to people. Can someone who lives double life claim to speak ,pray or sing in tongues,given the tongues are from the Holy spirit who doesn't dwell in unclean abode?
@sujviv
@sujviv Жыл бұрын
I feel the gift of tongues is in operation today in believers to whom the Spirit distributes the gift. I come from a non charismatic background. I still lean much to the non Pentecostal doctrine. But I have experienced this gift personally and i exercise it regularly today in private.. it's certainly not an imagination. It is a real experience..... But i truly respect the speaker for his honest presentation. As he says, we cannot say that every believer should and will exercise this gift... And those who exercise are not the only ones who have been baptized in the Sprit... However giving credit to the speaker, there is room to ponder if what I am exercising today is very different from the one given in the bible...
@sammie6811
@sammie6811 4 жыл бұрын
Great response! God bless you S.S 🙏🏾
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