1000 WATT German Engineered Full Suspension Trike - HP Velotechnik Scorpion FS 26 - Utah Trikes

What a RIDE!! This full suspension Scorpion FS 26 paired with a 1000W Bafang Middrive motor and is one amazing electric trike. The recumbent trike is an absolute blast to ride. The front suspension offers 60mm of travel and that kind of comfort paired with a coil over shock on the back end all but eliminates bumps in the road. You feel like you're floating. The features don't end with full suspension though. This Scorpion also boasts a 1000W electric Bafang Mid Drive. Pick a pedal assist level that is perfect for you or, if you need a break, relax your legs, hit the throttle and let the motor do all the work.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:55 Gearing on the Scorpion FS
3:02 Motor Options
4:30 Install
6:35 Test Ride
8:54 Outro
9:22 Ride
9:50 Bloopers

[@richglaser4566]

Your the best doing these

[@mywayway196]

Love the staff...Love the no BS breakdown and price transparency 👍❤

[@jimmysapien9961]

Me too great Presentation !!!!!!

[@daveyJ213]

Excellent video. Awesome trike; will probably be my next trike. Also thank you for mentioning the price. Most dealers are afraid to do this for some reason. I don't get it, but knowing the price helps consumers make an informed decision. Much appreciated. Keep rolling guys.

[@toddschaeffer6174]

Always something newer always something better, and boy that one looks better. Keep up the good work, when I grow up I would like to get one just like that one

[@AV8R_1]

I had an FS26 and I loved it! $8000 trike though the way I had it configured. Unfortunately I had a knee injury and had to sell it. Now that my knee is healed, I would love another one, but dang they are expensive.

[@derekpirie9188]

Utah Trikes, you Rock. Your presentations are always a inspiration to watch. keep Em rolling.

[@conantdog]

Lewis is a star 👌 Dug the trike and him singing ✌️

[@NigelPond]

Great video, great team 😁

[@liegeradontour1901]

The video production is awesome, congrats! Great trike too! We have a Bafang on our Gekko, and it works really good.

[@carlholttum9150]

My wife and I have two HP Velotechnik fs20, with 1000 w Bafang mid drives and love them. It is cool to ride up steep hills without paddling, they also. Have 14 speed Rolloff rear hubs. Love the trikes but don’t get to ride them very much. When we get back to Utah, i may have you do a check up on them. Love your vid’s

[@computersfortheautisticfou9420]

For someone who has ELF's that have Nvinci N360's in them I would say be sure to tell the client to check on the CVT as they are prone to breaking the seals and leaking the oil that is inside them... which causes locking up it's a great CVT but known for issues

[@goriverman]

Love your video’s

[@kenbrock940]

I have become a fan of your videos. Thank you for the pricing, and comparisons. What's in the black rectangular box on the left side of the rider behind the seat? The right appears to be a battery. Can you internally route the cables on this build to clean up the frame?

[@clayguinard3651]

You guys are full of dog😁❤️ personality that's what I like about your videos you just have a lot of finesse in your videos 😁😎

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

I don't know what dog😁 is, but thanks?

[@acattledog]

Hey Lewis how come I didn't get to test drive that HP when I was there that day? Glad you enjoyed your coffee!

[@mountainace6057]

Can't decide between the 1000 Watt FS Velotechnik or the Electric ICE Full Fat. Hmmm... I know, I will get them both!

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

That is the only right decision.

[@mountainace6057]

@@UtahTrikesOnline I think so too... How many hamburgers do you think it will cost?

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

@@mountainace6057 hmmm, depends on the burger.

[@jimmysapien9961]

I’m impressed - price too . German Engineering 👍🏻. Is it better than a Ice Tour or A Catrike 559

[@1022SLB]

When will these trikes catch up with bikes on build quality? Carbon fiber frames, internally routed hoses/cables, hydraulic brakes, electronic shifting etc??? I want one, but I’m not paying 10 grand for a pound of black tye wraps! Cmon man, use the S-Works Specialized Turbo Levo as inspiration!

[@wornoutwrench8128]

Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Nice. Master plan for my Expedition is twin hub motors on the front, a Rohloff speed hub on the rear and a Schlumpf drive on the front. Will be a several year project unless my winning numbers come through on the lotto. I suppose I could come out of retirement and get a job. Nahhhhhhh

[@shepatown]

I ride a trike because bikes are just two tired. Now my trike is looking a little tired after seeing this video.

[@stephencollie9449]

My trike also looks a bit sad after this but I love my trike and keep going no matter the surface. Is this when I say where's Lewis.

[@babayaga8419]

What's the wheel size of back and front

[@RobertMcClure]

Oof! I dropped my phone when you said the price could go up to 10k or more.

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

Hopefully you have a good phone case!

[@RobertMcClure]

I do LOL

[@paulchristiansen8515]

you pay for what you get on any type of bike, this one is loaded up..wow

[@jimmysapien9961]

AWSOME trike

[@dr.r.k.shaffer555]

Mine!

[@ludwigvanosselaer4179]

is a moter from 1000watt good or better when you pull a heavy trailer from 265 pound?

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

1000W is 4X or more stronger than most riders, so it can definitely pull a trailer as long as that rear wheel has traction. Most trailers connect up to the rear axle though, so pulling a heavy trailer regularly is not something we suggest on a suspension trike as that's a lot of force that the Swingarm pivot wasn't made for.

[@brucewrandol]

Do you deal with previously owned trikes?

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

Sometimes we will get used trikes in as trade ins or on consignment. There are not many of them and they don't typically make it to our website because the locals nab them first.

[@robinmilner8905]

I’m just starting out On trikes. I have about 30 miles on a Rover with n330. This trike looks like my dream machine. I’m sure I can’t afford it at the moment but wondering how much this would cost so I can start saving my pennies

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

This build was about $8000.

[@Treewithoutabird]

So guys, how does the third party electrifying options compare in use to the makers options?

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

The manufacture-supplied options have lower power, speed limit, and no throttle. They do have a torque sensor pedaling assist instead of a cadence assist.

[@Treewithoutabird]

@@UtahTrikesOnline As I'm in UK low powered is the only (legal) option. I was wondering about the feel, I've tried electric DF bikes with Bosch motors and its a seamless smooth experience. I'm about to take ownership of a Sprint, pedal only. Not sure how much I want a motor but if I do, I want to make sure it adds to the experience and doesn't add annoying traits once the excitement has died down. To add you make great videos, don't ever let Lewis take acting lessons, he has a certain ....eh...jena se qua :-)

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

@@Treewithoutabird The lower-powered motors with torque sensors definitely have that smooth pedal feel you are referring to. The Shimano Esteps and the Bosch systems are both great for that. And, Lewis, we like him just the way he is:)

[@zorroinhell5549]

Whats the top speed with this Bafang?

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

Depending on the final sprocket on the Nuvinci it will give you from about 22-30mph.

[@minniesaab7255]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@AlvaroRobledo]

00:43 that church

[@jsiedlecki5331]

If you could get one trike for traveling around the world, which would it be?😊

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

Kait would choose the Ti FLY X with Schwalbe Smart Sams! Lewis would prooobably take the HP Scorpion FS Enduro.

[@jsiedlecki5331]

@@UtahTrikesOnline great! Thanks for sharing your dream travel trikes😊🖒🐶I was thinking the ty fly or the hp fs, all cracking machines! Chero😆

[@rogermcewen7378]

What a nice ride. It happens to be mine. What an upgrade from the TT Path that I have been riding the last 10 or so years. The Path has served well and can continue to serve someone well but I'm getting older, the knees are weaker and I decided it's time to spoil my self. Still waiting for part so I can pick it up and begin my new adventure. I am accepting cash gifts to help get it paid for. (;-))

[@kenbrock940]

What, if anything, would you change about the build or components?

[@ChiTownTino]

Ooh that rats nest of wires and cables

[@COACTUSFECI75]

Hey ... I want to Work for you and wanna build Up my Vision of Quad Velo/Car

[@157tty]

I need

[@AV8R_1]

How much was this build?

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

This build was right around $8000.

[@AV8R_1]

Utah Trikes sorry... I asked before I got to the end of the video. My bad.

[@jimmysapien9961]

What about the warranty on the motor and the trike

[@driewiel]

1000 Watt is silly. I would recommend 350 Watt. Or 500 Watt if you pull a heavy trailer. But even 250 Watt is plenty. Battery capacity is far more important. 2x20Ah and a 350 Watt Bafang will take you 200-250km on a day easily going a steady 30km/h. A 1000 Watt with 1x20Ah top speed will run out in 20 minutes. Wow really fun....not. If you don't agree please feel free to comment.

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

A more powerful motor can accelerate and climb faster and will likely have a higher top speed. It is unlikely that it will always run at peak wattage though. Cruising along at the same speed as you and your 350W motor, the 1000W motor will only use about the same power. It's only when the 1000W blows past your 350W motor that it will be using more power. So, if you are happy with 350W speed and climbing power then no reason to have more. As far as duration goes though: 48V Battery w/20Ah capacity = 960Wh 960Wh / 1000W constant usage = .96 hours .96 hours = 57.6 minutes With motor use only (no pedaling) you should get 10-20 miles with one battery depending on rider weight, terrain, type of riding. With assist you can get 4X that.

[@driewiel]

@@UtahTrikesOnline My recommendation to people reading is still stands. Why 1000 Watt if you hardly use all the power? Who wants to go 120km/h anyway? Captain Courageous? Get a car. I know the USA is different. Don't need a license. In all European countries you need a license and helmet if it is more than 250Watt. But....maybe with 350 Watt you can get away with it? They even sell Bafang 350 Watt with a 250 Watt sticker. Yes sneaky. Of course the throttle is not legal too. Not even on speed Pedelecs. Which I find pretty stupid. The throttle is there for safety to get moving cross a junction on a slope from a stop. Not to use it constantly without pedaling. Or you will damage the motor. My verdict. 1000 Watt is for people who hate cycling. As the Dutch would say 'Act normal and you are crazy enough'. Between 20 and 30 km/h that is when you are a cyclist. In fact I find 25km/h exactly the right speed to enjoy the scenery. Only when you go up real mountains with a heavy load then 750 or 1000 Watt makes sense. That is why they build them. Not to make a race car of your trike. I call it anti-cycling. But let people decide for themselves. I'm only giving my opinion. More isn't always more. Sometimes it is less. I still enjoy riding without e-assist just as much. Uncomplicated, light, go as far as my body allows. E-assist is not the holy grail.

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

@@driewiel Well, yes, if you can't have a throttle and need to stay legal it makes sense. The mentality here in the USA is definitely different. If you want to replace your car with a bike but you have a 10 mile commute on the road with cars then you need to be able to move. A small motor just won't cut it. If you only bike to enjoy the scenery then why have a motor at all? As far as people that like big motors hate cycling goes, hmm. With enough gearing you can still pedal your heart out no matter how big the motor is.

[@driewiel]

@@UtahTrikesOnline You have a great shop. I hope you will tell your costumers that 1000 Watt is a bit 'much'. Let them try 250 Watt first and then step up if they think they need more. I'm not even sure about warranty? I've seen a couple of trikes with cracked frames. But that you know better then me of course.

[@jimmysapien9961]

@@UtahTrikesOnline great 👍🏻

[@robinrutschman]

8:57 For over $8,000 plus $300 shipping just get a fricking car...

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

Most people that get these already have cars. Some people are looking for a car replacement. There are other less expensive options, this one is top of the line.

[@pietvandenborne6549]

In the Netherlands only 250 Watt allowed to be a cyclist. Max. speed is 25km/h with the help of the motor. Yes indeed, with 1000watt "you can fly" directly into a policecell.

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

Good thing we don't have to deal with that!

[@jimmysapien9961]

@@UtahTrikesOnline 🙏

[@-First-Last]

Bye!

[@carrollhanks1055]

What the heII? The stupid music completely drowns out the audio!

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

Sorry about that Carroll. We'll do better next time.

[@Blacklung420thc]

This company buys its trikes from Taiwan ships them to Germany where they put them together and add a Chinese motor and call it German engineering. Lol

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

It's a small world and parts are now made around the globe. All of HP Velo's trikes are designed and engineered in Germany. Nearly every manufacturer sources parts or has parts made overseas. Good luck finding any bike or trike that doesn't have parts on it that are made in China or Taiwan. What was your point again?

[@Blacklung420thc]

@@UtahTrikesOnline my point was this is a Taiwanese bike and hp buy the parts, put them together then claim its German technology. When its Taiwanese technology with a Chinese motor. It just makes me laugh because it's just another example of the germans talking shit

[@Blacklung420thc]

They are good bikes because I have a gecko that I brought from hp. Taiwan makes all the best top brand bikes these days

[@UtahTrikesOnline]

@@Blacklung420thc It's all cool. The difference really is who designs the trike. There are some "manufacturers" that are really just importers for cycles designed and made by a Taiwanese company. There are other "manufacturers" who design and prototype locally and then have their manufacturing done by the experts in Taiwan.

[@marsBeBelinda]

@@UtahTrikesOnline the way I would put it is there are factories of various quality in most countries and if you are buying a bicycle that has been designed and configured and the package four final shipment in Germany you can expect that they will not be working with the wrong manufacturers wherever. However, the commenter suggest then dealing directly with the country of origin my allow you for the same money to go further in the ultimate result. You didn't mention the percent percentage for this particular variable speed or infinitely variable transmission. I think that has Battery Technology improves we may see more of the human power by wire types of designs where are the human generates power that is not mechanically distributed whether that's by pneumatic or hydraulic or electrical would not matter as much as the benefits in flexibility of the frame and the drivetrain and props incorporation of energy from the upper body that is more of a whole body exercise experience and because of the in efficiencies of this being easily made up by shading solar panels and improved battery chemistry you can avoid having to charge your batteries and also the problems with transmitting work mechanically. You mentioned how people drop by figures starting with this Pacific frame and I don't have any problem or point to make about that being a wrong number it is just that when you talk about the issues I raised here you are starting to get into a price point where they become relevant. My understanding is that recumbent got its popularity from reduced turbulence but then various issues that not being as the reptile core of our Sarah Brianne prefers higher in the air and I was trying to use the word for our brain so hopefully you could read the two words that are there allowed and no I meant steer, that is c e r e b r i u m. Since I will be using whatever machine I ultimately end up with that incorporates my values and consumes too much of my net worth presently for urban commuting it is very likely that I will try to do something that is a hybrid that might have a third wheel and might be full recumbent but I don't see why I can't be higher off the ground even though I am extremely extremely aware of what happens when you move the center of gravity up because I have experimented with a child polymer wagon and putting different quieter Wheels underneath it because the four wheels that the wagon as are of a design that is more like an elderly person's Walker in terms of limiting speed and creating all kinds of nonsensical dynamics that are more than a pain in the butt and then have literally rubbed off the rubber from the solid plastic airless Wheels. When the way is very high up on the wagon the weight it is extremely difficult to prevent the wagon from toppling over and I had began with a push golf trike and had gone through various ways of putting cargo on there and I have failed to buy a really luxurious Golf Club suitcase for it so is using various fabric ice chests and finally I ended up just putting it under the wagon. when you push such a Contraption it is easier to keep it from toppling over and when you tell it ironically or however you want to view that contrast. I have owned a converted tandem upright bicycle and I wish I had had more outings with a bicycle because it was somewhat thrilling the pedal that thing and have so much cargo on it and just flow down the roads by all the little harmonics within the frame and the various ratlings from the cargo. It was thin steel tubing of course old school upright tandem frame and it was stolen by the HOA. Currently I experiment with different walking technology and have created a life that the slower speed of walking does not crate and efficiencies overall for because most of what I can do while at a destination I can do while walking. I do not have time cards that I need to punch at certain locations. I do though extremely reluctantly hop on Transit when I need to be too far in terms of walking and the time that is available. we are getting to the point with autonomous technology that inexpensive trike can Circle The Block so nobody steals it and avoid causing any problems because of its smartness in terms of Uno using a solar panels to find routes that are I'm congested and arrived as if by valet precisely at the point that you are ready to board. If I lived in a country that influence me to have a lower wattage motor I would get more benefit from the motor the cost of a 250 watt motor can be less than a thousand watt motor and it can offer a tremendous amount of a being far more power than most people typically contribute on an ongoing basis to their ride from their body. I have of course marked this video to download at its maximum resolution at some point even though I don't recall doing it in the last 5 days maybe it is auto downloading because it's part of the playlist of comfort custom trikes but I am glad that it is fresh because I did just stream it if at a very low resolution and enjoy every second of it. I was reading about a walking Club bicycle design that is not the treadmill version but actually I have more of a stepping type drivetrain in terms of a up and down. so that is at least three alternative drivetrains to Circular pedaling that I've seen in production. I do think that when it comes to folding the one use case that you don't adequately discuss is using Urban bike lockers despite having a trike and I think that having that at the riot design parameter from the get-go makes sense because I'm not sure if you know of a single model that is going to fit in a sta Bike Locker ndard triangular Bike Locker sorry I had to go back up and change the word model back to model because Google wants to say the word that follows single is Mom no matter what you say. I think that there is an opportunity to get seniors into these types of machines before they end up getting a free mobility scooter. I just discovered that there is a Nuance when you talk about mobility scooter and what they call this American company us social Mobility. without having to go extremely wide the battery electric scooters now allow you to have your head at a walking height. I believe there are two speeds depending upon whether it is at the maximum height or some 10in lower with a motorized height adjustment. social Mobility is for people who are not able to walk being able to talk and listen to people who are walking next to them. the alternative to it for higher speeds would be for both people to be on a recumbent bicycle of course, a bicycle that is for each of them I'm not one that they share. when my mother was somewhat younger than that now and she is in her tenth decade now I did get her onto a trike it was a cheap steel heavy front hub motor conversion. we had the original front wheel tire as well but my mother never tried to use that bicycle despite it being available to her for many months. In my absence she had bought a conventional bicycle and was writing it in a loop track around her home and I did not realize how fragile her have it was when I borrow the bicycle and she never wrote it again. she had never used the bicycle that she had bought brand-new at a bike shop to go anywhere but around her home. That fact however is very little Comfort to me and now it is a decade or two later. I have great ambition for my mother to get her to be more active again and one of these strikes may be a part of that if I can as I have alluded to make it more appealing to her by having it be perhaps extremely slow, and in being very slow still be very high off the ground yet stable! by being extremely slow you can have a small solar panel provide all of the Power because for such a person they only need to take it out before or after lunch literally at High Noon and it is just about the fresh air it is just about a loop the destination is exactly the spot that they began and the Mounds of wattage they contribute is hardly the most important thing. we are lucky to have an essentially closed track around our homes. many of our neighbors walk the loop. as much as I love walking or used to until some criminally placed Ultra thick wrought iron stretched one of my tendons in one of my feet, which is something that choice of Footwear is so far making only a nuisance but not completely disabling. your shop I think stands at a Crossroads in which you are subject to unsolicited purchase requests in which it is a group by in which the net income to your shop to your store to your Collective to your business is sufficient despite a drastically lower cost per vehicle. we have in the various websites and apps and increasingly flushed out supplier side version of that but on the customer side I have not seen the ability 4 yuppies or millennials to put forth what they want and how many millions the crowd is offering. if we ask for the ultimate at a bargain price it only requires that enough of us sign on with our electronic payment confirmed 4 and 2 tees to step forward and fulfill

[@yukonjack.]

You can afford it if you're good at Insider trading and work on Wall Street💸💰💸💰💸💰💸💰💸