11 January: Douglas Murray joins Big Questions debate

On 11 January 2015, Douglas Murray joined the BBC's Big Questions debate.

[@gazXspace]

I absolutely love Douglas Murray - How can you not love him.

[@JuliexSteadman]

if you are a muslim !! 🙂

[@sheepthehack]

Hes a public school boy that LOOKS like he should be on the left.. SOUNDS like he should be on the left.. but thank the heavens.. or his parents.. some one at least.. gave this man a brain and an education that actually benefits society... instead of taking from it.. I too LOVE Douglas Murray.. An absolute (as myself) true British patriot..

[@gazXspace]

@@JuliexSteadman I’m not

[@autry33]

Douglas Murray is a Hero and Mr. I know everything over there is out of his league.

[@7Sandie]

Why is it muslims NEVER answer a question!!!

[@silverysnowfox]

You can't be racist towards Muslims. Thank you black woman at 15:00 for pointing that out.

[@BedsitBob]

Correct, you can't be racist toward a religion.

[@kennym3492]

Douglas Murray is my hero :)

[@bruce8359]

you cant have all these differant people living in one country with differant believes it cant possibly work ....this is a christian country and we we seem to be losing touch with our own values

[@soohz]

Why is this video not more popular? Some extremely important and often unsaid points were raised.

[@James888JJ]

Douglas Murray is something special. A true leader. Douglas for Prime Minister

[@attiylanen]

Offensive expressions are the epitome freedom of speech. No one's right to talk is hardly ever challenged when they only speak *nice things*.

[@shivani4279]

Sorry your Muslim Victim Card has been declined.

[@sirriffsalot4158]

"Founder, Discuss Jesus". That really cracked me up. And, man, Douglas was shooting daggers at that tub of babble, lol.

[@hughjarce3517]

This Raza character is a petulant child. Clearly he knows nothing about Charlie Hebdo and its long history of lampooning just about every religion, politician or organisation. Thank goodness Douglas Murray is there to speak common sense with great skill and courage. Majid Nawaz has become superb as a voice of moderation and common sense about Islam. The Raza guy is deeply insecure and needs to be more respectful of others.

[@roknroller6052]

@Hugh Jarce... He is infuriating but he has one point. You can't nowadays even include black or Jewish people in comedy, Let alone mockery, and I'm talking benign harmless stuff. Not even related to their race or anything racial, I'm talking even completely unrelated. Even if what is being said is true, culturally it would still be seen as unacceptable, demonizing to the entire group.. So you can mock any white person or right-wing or centralist or for the most part religious with complete immunity, With gross generalizations, Even if it's slanderous and all you're doing is propagating lies, It's still culturally acceptable. Look at programs like 'the last leg' 'New world order' 'mash report' look at any British comedian ( all hacks ) So that's the one point he made that's true, We culturally decide what we allow to be mocked, which means free speech is an illusion. This is way before we get anywhere near offensive, like racism sexism etc. How many British comedians do you know that mock, anything left-wing or related to labor or Women or any protected group. Haha

[@monkeytennis8861]

@@roknroller6052 Islam is not bloody race, it's an idea. Racism in any form is wrong, but lampooning ideas, including religions, is entirely acceptable.

[@roknroller6052]

@Jimmy Neeps... They all originate from the many Islamic countries, where the entire culture, all the laws, everything is grounded in that belief system, Look up the definition of ethnicity. Then look up the definition of race. Both say culture! Race, Sharing the same culture, history, language, ancestry. It's our secular societies in the process of trying to undermine religion, separated the two. A Jewish man David Baddiel. pointed this out saying angrily, That he's not considered Jewish anymore, Just because he doesn't go to the church. He wanted to still be defined as Jewish but society wouldn't... But even discounting that. As I said try and criticize progressivism or liberalism or marxism on twitter, lol. You won't get very far. You'll permanently banned off Twitter, or even PayPal, Facebook, Instagram for just stating facts. That challenge leftist ideology, ideas! The amount of victims to cancel culture, antifa etc George Soros had a fake guillotine put outside his house, but even people defending science, You can't even believe in biology, otherwise your a biological essentialist. People have died in the riots because they disagreed, with an idea. Sound familiar haha. There's no room in our society for diversity of thought, Progressivism has already decided, Tradition is imperialist, Culture is oppressive, Religion is intolerant, etc.. That ideology only respects itself, It has become its own God... These Neo-liberals are fabricating their owns religious like doctrine, To the extreme that truth is offensive, being white is a oppressive, being a man is a crime, being straight is oppressive, being your birth gender is oppressive, being smart or slim is ablest an oppressive, being pro life is intolerable, saying a.l.l lives matter is actually a crime, did you know Rationality is now labeled Toxic masculinity Haha. Commonsense doesn't have a voice now because there's no mainstream platform that will tolerate "that divisive language" and the left will keep re-defining terminology in iterated game against you, To make sure you're never heard! They can physically assault you and it's justified by a corrupted system, That views a person that's defending his position as the aggressor. You're blind to the fact you're already in a secular like cult... that you cannot criticize! and is trying to Indoctrinate you. So, No not even close, even in our relatively free societies, the hypocrisy is blatant, and alarming...

[@monkeytennis8861]

@@roknroller6052 what a load of paranoid bollocks

[@matwatson7947]

I'm actually really impressed by the "arguments" made by Raza. It's the closest I've ever seen to Douglas Murray losing his composure.

[@dudesweet1535]

Raza is a angry little man that lacks any logic whatsoever.

[@joshsmithSci-Tech]

Yessss!!! I found the full version!

[@MikeTall88]

"You are for free speech but against racism, then you are not absolute free speech!" How original, a religious talking about absolutes..

[@homan2329]

It is sad to see some Muslims not even beginning to clasp the concept of free speech , the division of ideas are so wide there is just no bridging it . The mistake of allowing mass Muslim migration into Europe must be recognized by our politicians firstly as a disaster then set about reversing that trend .

[@bubagumpshrimps3626]

+homan2329 Wishful thinking, my friend. We will see many more attacks like Charlie Hebdo, London, Paris and Brussels in Europe before our political class actually come to terms with what they have done.

[@homan2329]

+BubaGump Shrimps i am afraid you are right , events since has proven that . However our rulers solution to the problem is to have more of the same , this headlong drive towards cultural suicide is insane .

[@graciehomer]

Douglas Murray is my hero, the man is right on point.

[@kosomusicofficial]

the last point made by maajid nawaz is completely spot on

[@darkmatter7241]

42:52 This is comedic gold! Is this guy for real?!

[@aiminyou]

Just waited for the bit to end, except it never did

[@eddiebear34]

The fact the opening question was basically "is it ok to offend Muslims" rather than "wtf is wrong with muslims" says it all

[@BedsitBob]

"there are footballers who have accidentally killed people, and they are playing. There are people who have been convicted of manslaughter, in the House of Lords." There was also a person, convicted of murder, working (in front of the camera) for the BBC.

[@ras3054]

I also feel offended whenever someone criticizes Evolution..

[@markharrison6498]

It amazes me that people think that marriage is a religious tradition

[@monkeytennis8861]

The comments about Ched Evans haven't aged well, have they? He was ultimately found not guilty so his lack of remorse was entirely justified.

[@JaymesSinnah]

Everytime Taiwo contributes its complete gibberish masquerading as intellect. He invites chuckles and never applause

[@Lordradost]

Magic thinking black dude: "I genuinely do not believe in evolution..." We should respect his ignorance? We cannot tolerate the intolerant. His opinion is biased and vapid.

[@Lordradost]

***** I second your opinions, sir.

[@mogznwaz]

He can believe what he likes - he just shouldn't be allowed to push it on children.

[@maceddie666]

Closed minds versus open minds

[@zraruko9683]

Islam is a religion and not a race. It should be given a thorough critical review.

[@colinfarren8326]

Majid Nawaz as usual is totally on point as is the awesome Douglas Murry

[@tonymunro5693]

Thats the best point I've heard Kate make

[@DieFlabbergast]

This is the only time I've ever seen her make sense. When she talks about anything connected with feminism, it's just babble.

[@JudithSanchez-ht6jn]

Douglas Murray is atheist and I respect him and nag he quilliam I admired. 🤗

[@JudithSanchez-ht6jn]

Mr majig is very intelligent and that reason that he hate by Muslim.😀

[@cyber6sapien]

Tell me what world view or code of ethics came from something other than humans. I'll wait.

[@PS4sos21]

Why does that guy at 27:22 keep staring at the ground? Is he afraid to look the people in the eye who he is speaking to?

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

He's shy.....

[@katrinejensen9612]

The lack of response from men in this crowd about the rape-case is astonishing /// from Denmark

[@deepsareen1]

I meant "take away and make free"

[@Thallium212]

1 word about that apologist: tagiyya

[@norandomness]

With all due disrespect for apologists where it's not due. Taqiyya means hiding your faith to avoid harm. Example from recent history of Europe: Q: Are you Jewish? A: Nein, Standartenführer That is taqiyya

[@classicwiseguy]

I love how unhinged this show can be sometimes 😂

[@philb5188]

Footballers are not role models at all. Most are inexperienced young adults. The best Role model for any child is the Parent.

[@MikeTall88]

Really? Saddam Hussein was the best role model for his son? Any serial rapist is the best role model? Do you want to expand your thoughts here?

[@philb5188]

Not really. I can't account for the odd dictator or two. I stand by my initial statement that footballers are not the right not role models. Many are only kids themselves, most are perpetual fuckers at best. Most League footballers have had it too good, even League 2 players, hence a really bad attitude much of the time. No mate, if you are lucky enough to have a Mother and Father, then they should be considered your role models first and foremost.

[@convincinglies1]

just because they SHOULDNT be role models doesnt mean they ARENT role models

[@philb5188]

No mate ...Its the Media that has tried to present them as Role models. Common sense says it is/was an impossible task. Why, because they are under pressure enough trying to do what they do "best" without adding more pressure to that. You see, for all their skills, they CHEAT each other. They Cheat the Refs, they react without respect and they often hurt each other with impunity, all in the name of gain. Forget fair play, we shan't even mention diving, spitting, and much more. The game itself is fine, but like many things in life is often tainted one way or another. You child wan't a Role model, then you as a father must be the best you can. If you are, then they will never ever see football players for anything other than what they really are, and it most definitely is not Role models in any normal persons book.

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

It's wrong for anyone of faith to expect non-believers to not lampoon any faith. We're all easily offended by something but that doesn't give us the right to annihilate the offender.

[@kennym3492]

😂 these debates are awesome.. It’s a clear cut point yet people defend the attackers for their disgusting religions

[@rarrmonkey]

Maajid Nawaz for the win! Has convictions in his beliefs, the self security to not fear someone can hurt his god with words or ideas and the wisdom to see we need give others the same rights and privileges we want for ourselves. Defiantly an ideal representative for the UK Muslims I have met. TV, radio and print so often find someone representing the minority fringe opinion to discuss whatever topic it can give a false sense of what everyday people are like.

[@deepsareen1]

Time we took our food, clothes and books, friendship and relationships, our sexuality, morality and humanity from these religions started long time back feeding on the fear of unknowns (like death, destruction and diseases) and having fixed dogmas with a terrible history of wars and atrocities.

[@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000]

Hardly irrational to be afraid of a religion whose followers will cut your head off if they deem you've insulted them

[@josiptumapa]

2023: WHAT HAPPENED TO MAAJID???! I NEED MORE OF HIS THOUGHTS!

[@TREVORALLEN-tl4yt]

Isn’t blasphemy a victimless crime?

[@73scorpion73]

Mos Def should stick to music

[@joelk3187]

Ah yes, Pol Pot. The world-renowned 'humanist'

[@gstar3569]

15:09 you are wrong dude, free speech, it’s the name FREE SPEECH

[@BedsitBob]

I haven't seen the cartoon they're discussing, but from what has been described (ie. Jesus and Mohammed meeting and saying hello), I'm not understanding how it is Islamophobic, or indeed any other kind of phobic.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Simple: Islam is an iconoclastic religion, meaning they prohibit the creation of images of Allah or his prophet and consider any such as blasphemous. The issue is when you have people who lived in a society that believes that for centuries suddenly thrust into a near completely secular society that has no statutes against it or free speech.

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

It's because most Muslims believe it's an insult to show pictures of their prophet.

[@punypixel2795]

'Footballers are male' - wow this 100 year old man has aged well.

[@DieFlabbergast]

They are: no-one takes women's football or women's rugby seriously. Use your bloody common sense (if you have any)! When someone says I'm going to watch a "football match," would ANYONE in the world imagine he/she was going to watch a "women's football match"?

[@onetwo6064]

Love the black Christian lady

[@paulrichards6894]

she thinks homosexuals are going to hell....nice lady not

[@philb5188]

Re Ched Evens, I don't condone his behavior or his mate, but then again, I don't condone the behavior of the woman concerned. This woman is hardly a good shining example of women in general. I do worry though that the evidence is tainted in so far as the woman walked perfectly well into the Hotel. The amount of Alcohol found in her bloos was around the same as 5 or 6 cans of Stella. For a woman who's clearly used to drinking. This amount would not put her to sleep as she claimed over that time frame.frame. Ched Evan's friend got off the charge, yet clearly can't understand why his mate Ched didn't. I do think the "EVIDENCE" therefore isn't good enough to convict. Also, it wouldn't be normal to apologise for something you didn't do. The motto of this story for any young man though, make sure very you get consent in writing before you have a Bonk with any woman.

[@monkeytennis8861]

He was found not guilty

[@wecanworkthisout7834]

Can someone please please tell me what RACE are Muslims ?, and for that matter, Semites, and are Arab Semites, the same race as Jewish Semites, and are all Semites Caucasians .

[@DieFlabbergast]

For those of you who learned nothing in school, there's this thing called Google, and an online encyclopedia named Wikipedia. That should be enough to start with. You have a LOT to learn,

[@markwilson9935]

What makes me smile is.... there are millions of people all over the world just getting on with their lives. They are not killing or hurting anyone or pushing their agendas on others....and they still believe in different systems and gods. They quite simply have matured enough to know that there is this life and its worth living. Im one of them. Most of these people on these programs have very little understanding....lots of knowledge but no understanding. Just get on with your own life. If someone doesn't share your beliefs then smile and move on OR accept their beliefs and have a beer. Its that simple!! Why does man complicate things. Believe what you want but let others believe what they want. SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mogznwaz]

Unless what they believe is 'kill all infidels' and 'control the children'

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

In Islam it's disrespectful to show pictures of their prophet.

[@daniz3466]

I am sorry this is insane. If anyone don't like living in UK and obey the laws of the country just go. Plenty of Islamic countries

[@snomad08]

Chad Evans is not a good footballer...just saying :P

[@convincinglies1]

I wouldn't know, I'm American

[@murph8411]

The angry Muslim is telling everyone he knows the story about the supposed anti semitic writer being fired from hebdon when he can’t even get the person the story was about’s name correct. He said Nicholas Sarkozy when it was Jean his son that the made up story said was converting to Judaism to marry a rich Jewish woman and that he’d go far doing the likes of that. The writer was asked to apologise since there was no truth to the story but refused. The writer had also said on a previous occasion he was anti semitic and that all Jews should live in fear. He’d had to apologise for this previously. Not exactly as cut and dried and hypocritical as made out by this angry Muslim.

[@zzebowa]

Jewish is not an idea, a thought, a concept, it is a race. Islam is not a race, it is an idea, a thought, a concept. That is why Islam can be criticised, lampooned, mocked. Jews can not be.

[@hobbabobba7912]

Jews and Judaism can still be criticised

[@keifer7813]

4:19 Douglas doesn't answer the question about the antisemitic part

[@marjon83utd]

Ched evens isnt any kids role model 😂

[@philb5188]

Islam is not a race...correct.

[@MikeTall88]

Religion is not a simple choice, belief is not a choice. If you are convinced, you cant help but to believe it. Try and choose to believe that you can fly. Can't do it ey?

[@MysticJabulon]

MikeTall88 Belief in bullshit is a choice.

[@NastazyaPhylipovnaTchornaya]

The 2nd speaker is a fool. Racism is a criminal offence in France, not a matter of free speech or of opinion. Blaming the victim, as it were, the Charlie Hebdo staff - no mention of the black policewoman from the French Antilles and the ordinary shoppers at the Kosher supermarket apparently? - is a transparent and repulsive bullying tactic.

[@hashimhassan1843]

try

[@batfink6507]

I don't get why we're not allowed to criticise a race? White people get criticised all the time and we're fine with it.

[@vdynmx]

This format just dosent work

[@JohnSmith-gp3co]

It’s interesting that the skin bead Muslim guy had absolutely NO input in any point in the rest of the programme.

[@owood2288]

While I agree with most of what Murray says, he’s the embodiment of narcissistic rage. Behind the glacial calm he’s simmering like a volcano. He looks like he’s about to blow his top everytime Nicky Campbell has the gall to ask someone else their opinion. Just a really odd bloke who obviously sees himself as a sort of young and hip version of Malcolm Muggeridge, as if that was what anyone needed. Whenever he’s forced out of monologue he quickly retreats into all-or-nothing statements and stage play repetition as well. The idea he’s some kind of public intellectual shows how much the ‘decline’ of our culture is really down to us. No one is forcing these shows to pay host to blobs from the Spectator (as opposed to people who teach middle eastern affairs for a living) but they do, because we’re not a serious culture.

[@DieFlabbergast]

Let's guess: you're gay and he rejected you once. That sort of explanation is the only reasonable one that comes to mind. Everything you said about Murray is incorrect and clearly a product of your own irrational inner rage, stemming from God knows what. I'd see a doctor if I were you.

[@garyteeley9637]

When u have sat with these disgusting minded people for so many hours it must get to you sooner or later. Douglas, the new Christpher Hitchens for sure...thank goodness for that

[@lusty444]

Cartoons of Allah?No one knows what Allah looked like or Jesus,Moses etc etc.

[@DieFlabbergast]

Nobody talked about cartoons of Allah. You are hallucinating. The cartoons were of the Prophet Muhammad. We don't know what he looked like either, but these are CARTOONS, not fucking oil paintings.

[@lusty444]

@@DieFlabbergast Allah,Mohammed,Jesus,Gnieshu,Buddha etc etc. Their all imaginary Deities to me!

[@GeorgePoulakis-kf8os]

The comedian is a fool!

[@SamuelFaict.Filmmaker]

"11 January: Douglas Murray joins Big Questions debate" In 5 Seconds: "My religion is better, No, my religion is better, No, I am better because I am a humanist." Poor, poor, mankind...

[@kwan2290]

These guys dont get it.... They want "Free Speech" without "consequence" you'd think in a room full of supposedly intelligent people they'd have figured that one out

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

And what “consequences” are you talking about? Because death threats aren't a ‘consequence’ we allow.

[@weiyuchen314]

look at the moderate islam at there. Still there hate at their eyes. I wonder if they in their mind still agree with the shooting. I m a Christian. If somebody mock my Lord Jesus. Yes i will be sad and angry.But i think my God can defence Himself. I wont shoot people cause they mock my God. Yesus said at Mat 5:39 But i say unto you, That ye resist not evil : but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. GBU

[@mbundingantembe6572]

christianity and islam worship the same demonic false god yahweh

[@primeminister1040]

Douglas Murray is so good at playing with language and words that once deconstructed make no absolute sense and actually are laughable

[@monkeytennis8861]

You didn't listen or understand, or both.

[@primeminister1040]

@@monkeytennis8861 he's not an impressive intellectual, just a decent journalist, if you actually think that his arguments have any real logical essence then i'm sorry, you're an idiot

[@monkeytennis8861]

@@primeminister1040 better than a weasling Islamic extremist

[@primeminister1040]

@@monkeytennis8861 whatever fox news

[@mogznwaz]

You're just saying that because you disagree with what he's saying. You're obviously an Islamic nutbag.

[@lionhear123]

God limits and restricts ‘free speech’ such as the defamation of the sacred held by oneself or others. Then no one has the right to violate such law. And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made [to appear] pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do. (Quran 6:108) In reality there is no such thing as absolute free speech. What exists is speech within predefined limits that differ between nations in accordance to whims and desires of human beings versus predefined limits by God Almighty.

[@BarakHussein]

douglas is a liar and a hypocrite

[@mohammedzakaria7449]

Douglas Murray exposed himself as a snowflake

[@douglastynyparc]

Did he? What did he say to give you that impression? Please give the timestamp.

[@mohammedzakaria7449]

Watch from Watch from 3:20 to 4:55. Raza gave examples of France censorship and Douglas response was he knows nothing about France

[@muhammadiqbalalmaududi3794]

@@mohammedzakaria7449 actually douglas give the reason for france censorship you just missing his points

[@almostafa4725]

@@muhammadiqbalalmaududi3794 what is the reason?

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

Actually, that's a perfect description for Raza.

[@NusratRizvi-ox3fg]

Pig Poop on Mecca, No More Problem. Is this hard to do? Nusrat Rizvi Palm Beach Garden.