119 - Winter is Here! The failure of Barbarossa - WW2 - December 5, 1941

[@WorldWarTwo]

Two days from now we will cover the events that unfold at Pearl Harbor in Real Time, minute by minute for five hours, starting at 0610 local Hawaiian time. Pearl Harbor minute by minute will be the most exciting documentary series you've ever seen. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3WblGqPq7F1i8U And in addition to our weekly coverage of the war here on youtube, we also do daily coverage of it over on our Instagram. Check that out at: instagram.com/ww2_day_by_day/ ...and please read our rules of conduct before you comment, it saves everyone a hassle: community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518

[@stoopidphersun7436]

Notice me

[@stoopidphersun7436]

Could you do a special on ethic minorities during ww2?

[@percamihai-marco7157]

When will you talk at War Against Humanity about the situation of the civilian population in Leningrad during the siege?

[@percamihai-marco7157]

@Poya Mostofizadeh yes but the starvation started already in 1941

[@thegreatreddragon2105]

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[@speedydb55]

"When it's so damn cold that it's the same temperature in both Fahrenheit AND Celsius."

[@EliaPaoletti1908]

big brain

[@ATINKERER]

-40

[@ayush.kumar.13907]

When it's so cold that it doesn't matter if it's in Fahrenheit or Celsius.

[@chnb517]

@@ayush.kumar.13907 thanks for repeating what he said

[@arnobmohaiminhossain6521]

@@ayush.kumar.13907 No there are two temperatures when celcius and Fahrenheit are the same.

[@stephengalindo6340]

"I'm Indy Neidell, and this is an extremely long episode of World War II" "My body is ready. Let it begin!!!"

[@andreasimoncini2793]

Damn just noticed it was 20 minutes long, it's so well done you don't see the time passing...

[@CssHDmonster]

only 20 mins :(

[@andreasimoncini2793]

@@CssHDmonster it's normally 10 mins only lol

[@poki580]

grow up

[@trisblackshaw1640]

@@poki580 it's called having fun.

[@SuperLusername]

WW2 is like college. - How much time do you need to do this? - Six months. - OK. You have two days

[@nuoksu]

For me it was more like "how many years do I have for MA?" "Five years. Ok, seven years, maximum." And after eleven years, presto, I graduated. It was like... the Cold War?

[@oLii96x]

@@nuoksu it takes forever and ends because one side is exhausted.

[@Avatar2312]

Well... it sounds more like Kirk talking to Scotty - How much time do you need to do this? - Six months. - OK. You have two days - For you, Captain, I'll do it in 4 hours

[@Prince-jc6wc]

No it's like assignment deadline.

[@4thtime910]

Are rapes and genocides common in your collage?

[@docvideo93]

"This is an extremely long episode of World War II" I'm not complaining

[@erikthomsen4768]

For a moment I thought you said this is an extremely long episode of World War I. But then I remember the video and read again.

[@stephenroberts4895]

Well worth it.

[@comradesam3382]

I legit said that lmao

[@jakubcesarzdakos5442]

Wait for the Monday

[@AHappyCub]

Honestly even if this was 24 hours long I wouldn't complain

[@jarkko88]

USA: I need 6 months JAPAN: Best I can do is 2 days

[@darthcheney7447]

Thank you. You are awarded "My first Kek of the day"

[@yenguinour5491]

Goddamit, I came here to say that but you beat me to it

[@Raskolnikov70]

"I have a friend who's an expert on military preparation. I'm going to give him a call and see what he thinks."

[@AbrahamLincoln4]

@@Raskolnikov70 "I think you should give them six months."

[@vuktodic1356]

And im taking a huge risk here

[@Daniel-kq4bx]

The only Soviet Thing retreating is Zhukov's Hairline

[@allmightywhale]

Damn

[@GerLeahy]

Love it!

[@Superbl0bby]

poor guy can hold the Soviet line but he can't hold his own hairline

[@Feffdc]

LOL

[@The_Devil_Himself]

Nah that's just his forehead advancing.

[@ColonelZoren]

"You can't hang all 190 million of us." probably the most russian line of all time.

[@Yora21]

Though the Germans certainly tried.

[@TheEulerID]

Stain seems to have tried (well, shot them)...

[@marcusaurelius2147]

you clearly don't play counter-strike :p

[@georget8008]

It reminds me of a note the napoleon's soldiers found nailed with a knife on the door of a mansion who belonged to a russian noble "All your will get is ashes" The russian noble had burned his mansion to the ground, burned the barns full of the summer's harvest and killed all his livestock before retreating with the russian army east of Moscow.

[@nicholasconder4703]

Considering how much help Stalin was giving the Germans in this regard, they might have succeeded if the war had lasted a few more years.

[@Valdagast]

Hawaii is as strongly defended as Singapore. No attack can ever succeed!

[@porksterbob]

The Pearl Harbor attack doesn't go off without a hitch... with complete surprise they lose almost 10% of their planes and they lose more in the second wave than the first. Had US defenses been given about an hours worth of warning, Japan's attack would have been much less successful.

[@yourstruly4817]

Yeah, Ben Affleck, Josh Hartnett and Cuba Gooding Jr. are there

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

A major difference is also that all Japan did was making some bombing raids. It's very different from actually conquering the islands. Despite being mostly a symbolic strike, the Doolittle raid also managed to bomb Japan very early in the war. But launching an actual invasion wouldn't be possible for years

[@morisco56]

Same with hong kong, guam, philipines or malaya

[@randomguy-tg7ok]

The difference is that Hawaii is an ocean away while Singapore is connected (mostly) by land.

[@genericyoutubeaccount579]

Frederick Barbarossa. Fails to conquer Italy. Fails to conquer the Holy Land. Hitler: Lets name my invasion of the Soviet Union after him.

[@mrmakrin21]

Also drowns before even reaching the holy land

[@panzerofthelake506]

@@mrmakrin21 he was very fat too

[@panzerofthelake506]

Because operation Attila the hun or Otto the German wouldn't sound very nice.

[@nobleman9393]

"For Ironic reasons, The best reasons"

[@realmario979]

Operation Bagration: My turn

[@Young0maker]

Did we know the average temperatures of mars in the 1940s? Or did that come with satellites and probes later?

[@WorldWarTwo]

An interesting question! The short answer is that we did. In 1924 the Flagstaff Observatory in Arizona, USA pioneered a method using radiometric instruments to measure temperatures on the surface of other planetary bodies in the Solar System. The initial studies focused largely on Mars, and quickly improved so that by 1941 we had a rough idea of daily temperature shifts on our sister planet. That being said, we’re still learning about the basics of the climate on Mars, but the data that Indy uses here was around already then.

[@byronperry8931]

@@WorldWarTwo Venus is generally considered our sister planet as its around the same size. On the other hand its also a hell hole at 465 degrees c with a acidic atmosphere that would crush you in a second.

[@johnyarbrough502]

@@WorldWarTwo Mars was definitely their thing. Flagstaff Observatory was founded/funded by Percival Lowell who was somewhat fixated on the idea not just that life existed on Mars but that there may have been advanced civilizations

[@yourstruly4817]

@@byronperry8931 We didn't really know much about venus being very hot and having crushing atmospheric pressure until the late 50s/ early 60s

[@paulthiessen6467]

@@byronperry8931 regardless, Hitler prob still has Venus on his “to do” at some point.

[@gianniverschueren870]

A classic design. The colours may remind some of the film 'Kingsman' and this is indeed a Savile special. 3/5

[@pnutz_2]

also swapping out for winter clothing

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

I’d say 4/5

[@TotallyNotRedneckYall]

Double breasted jacket looks good, very professional.

[@Raskolnikov70]

I got more of a 'Statesman' vibe from the bluish color and the US flag in the background.

[@vaclav_fejt]

Let's face it, the tie plays second fiddle to that wonderful double-breasted jacket and its brass buttons. A Navy-evoking outfit, fitting for the incoming naval operation. (despite that pin being an Army symbol)

[@mrnobody5669]

Not a lot of people seem to be mentioning Zoya's apperance in this episode, so im gonna do it. Regardless of whether or not her last words were fabricated or modified for propaganda purposes, the fact that a girl of her age decided to take up arms against an invading force as brutal as the Nazis is already a testament to her courage and bravery, what she did was something not many would be able to do, much less being so young. Another fantastic episode from Indy and the crew, it was only by chance that I found Zoya's story by reading about another amazing girl, Masha Bruskina, who was also talked about in one of the War Against Humanity videos. Please always remember that what you are doing here is incredibly special, you are educating so many people and bringing light to the individual stories of courage that so many times get overlooked in the history textbooks, I cannot thank you enough for all the things you are teaching, I can only hope you keep on going.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

Her body was found some weeks after her execution, preserved by the extreme cold. German soldiers had abused and mutilated it after her death, shortly before they retreated to the west. The photo at 1:53 in "Pravda" was the result. Red Army soldiers were told to avenge Zoya, and to target in particular the Wehrmacht division that was responsible.

[@mrnobody5669]

@@stevekaczynski3793 Yes, I have heard about that as well, its terrible what happened to her body. I hope she was given a proper burrial after being found.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

@@mrnobody5669 In 1984 I was taken with others on a tour of a Soviet school and her picture was one of those on a display devoted to Komsomol heroes and heroines.

[@kayt9627]

“Six months, that’s all they need” In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success. - Yamamoto

[@korbell1089]

And almost 6 months to the day a small incident happened that proved him right.

[@secretjosh5619]

@Phi6er Midway.... Yknow. When the luckiest carrier to ever exist, the crazy mad carrier with a thirst for vengeance who's somehow still alive, and their forgotten sister with a fake bee's name, take on the Kido Butai with a K/D ratio of 4:1.

[@Danheron2]

@@korbell1089 Say what you want about the Japanese but their self aware

[@howardbrandon11]

Timestamps: 1:40 "You Can't Hang All 190,000,000 of Us" 2:01 German AG Center & Soviet Moscow Defenders This Week (4:25 Phone Call Reference - It's Cold) 5:15 Actions in the North & South of the Eastern Front This Week 6:10 Actions in North Africa This Week 7:26 Japanese Actions This Week 9:09 American Outlook on, and Recent Events Relevant to, Imminent Japanese Attacks 17:25 War Against Humanity - Jäger Report 17:58 Summary of the Week 18:20 Henry Stimpson's Thoughts on How to Deter Japan

[@johnnyjet3.1412]

Germans: "Hold my Beer!"

[@gunman47]

I like the new map background and Indy's new coat. Tells a lot about foreshadowing in the days ahead there :)

[@657449]

My father was drafted for one year in January 1941. On December 6th, he was on a ship heading out from California to an unknown destination. The next day, they returned. I always figured it was the Philippines and the more information I received from your series validates my hunch. In 1942 he was sent to Iceland for two years and then to the European war. He mustered out on August 6th, just in time to celebrate the end of the war at home.

[@maemorri]

"Is that -37F or -37C?" "WHO CARES! IT'S FRICKIN' COLD!"

[@interestingengineering291]

“You can’t hang all 190 million of us” I hope this is not a dare

[@grumpyboomer61]

Comrade Stalin - "Yeah! Even left to my own devices, I could only kill a few million."

[@Loreless]

she was a fucking hero by comparison with you

[@anaveragechannel468]

Well they got 12.7% There

[@Darwinek]

@@Loreless Chill out Ivan

[@vuktodic1356]

Germans are like : so are you challenging me?

[@ForelliBoy]

"How many doors must a man kick down" - Josef Goebbels, in his diary regarding the end of Barbarossa

[@camillaallegrucci1311]

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the Russian wind. The answer is blowing in the wind.

[@totalwartimelapses6359]

His commentary is so fun to read, the guy wasn't as delusional as Hitler was And tbf Hitler wasn't THAT delusional up until the end of 1942...but man from 1943 onwards he just becomes a giant ball of copium and delusion

[@colinthompson3345]

Am just posting to say how absolutely brilliant this entire concept and series is. Seriously- well done.

[@fourninene]

Wow, the luck of both of those carriers leaving Pearl Harbor is just insane. Lucky E was Lucky from its inception it seems.

[@generalfred9426]

Even if Japan did bomb those carriers it would've taken just months to entirely replace this losses. Fun fact the US produced 90 aircraft carriers of all types throughout the war.

[@nicholasconder4703]

@@1994CPK Obviously using his hotline to Tojo. LOL.

[@loganmartin59]

@@generalfred9426 The number is closer to 120 if I'm not mistaken, but that doesn't mean that they were all Pacific bound. A lot of them were in the Atlantic escorting convoys, but Japan still could have hurt us a whole lot more in the months it would have taken them to get back up and under way.

[@Nostripe361]

@@loganmartin59 Honestly, as the video from Potential History pointed out, this wasn't really that good of a raid at all. They attacked on a Sunday in a Harbor; which means that most sailors are not on the ships at this time since this is the day that most have the day off and the ships sink in a shallow water. Most of the ships are just pulled off the floor of the harbor and repaired within, I think, six months. They also ignored the oil tanks and a plenty of the ships they did hit were not the major targets they wanted to hit but smaller ships and fleet tenders. Sure they achieved a tactical victory but the strategic victory was actually quite small.

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@Nostripe361 Japan's plan seemed to be to punch the US in the nose and knock them back long enough to conquer SE Asia and the Pacific islands, including the Philippines. They knew they could never beat the US in a long attritional war, so like Germany their strategy had to be to make a quick strike to secure resources and position and then hold out long enough to force a settlement that allowed them to keep their conquests. So even a limited raid that didn't do a fatal amount of damage still fit into their long-term strategic goals. I agree with you that it wasn't as effective as the Japanese had hoped, but it did achieve their goal to a limited extent. Hindsight being 20/20 and all, it would have been better for them to hit Hawaii even harder and followed it up with a land invasion. That would have given them years - not months - to conquer the rest of their co-prosperity sphere by denying the US Navy any kind of useful forward operating base west of San Francisco.

[@michaelgearhart5050]

"But they're still gonna fight?... That ain't gonna go well." WAH HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Not to dwell too long in hyperbole, this has to be one of the best channels on KZbin. The research and details are a sign of love for a project, the delivery (MUCH different than those first days of the WW1 series LoL) is so professional, our host Indy has grown and evolved so much over the past several years and this group never fails to both educate and entertain. Simply put gentlemen and ladies (of course) OUTSTANDING and a sincere thank you.

[@brucechynoweth]

Wow, You folks have been very busy !! Thank You for all the extra episodes !! I am glad to be a Time Ghost member...

[@perihelion7798]

What a truly remarkable series this is. Those of us who have a keen interest in WWII greatly appreciate the efforts that went into it's production. Kudos to all, including those not seen on the videos.

[@chrisyoung1576]

Winter is here comrade. You know the rules and so do I.

[@pexfmezccle]

A full commitment's what Adolf's thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

don't throw snowballs cause there might be stones in them? 🤔

[@pelleas2681]

"History shows that there are no invincible armies and that there never have been"- Stalin

[@Ronald98]

ah yes.. a fellow hoi4 player

[@Julianna.Domina]

"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." -Joseph Stalin

[@shangtsung1362]

@@Julianna.Domina Pertinent

[@Ronald98]

@@Julianna.Domina The Pope! how many divisions does he have?? - Joseph Stalin

[@yorkziea1041]

@@Julianna.Domina The quote, though popularly attributed to Stalin, was likely never said by him.

[@randomguy-tg7ok]

"Operation Barbarossa has failed" When your enemy doesn't stop fighting after you've destroyed their entire army one and a half times, it's hard to win at all.

[@panzerofthelake506]

They do have over 10 million fighting age men eager to fight and millions of infantry equipment and a shit ton of resources in the Urals and Caucasus and a shit ton of factories out of bombing range. So ye they will fight because this is a war of extermination because the nazis made it so.

[@randomguy-tg7ok]

It is indeed a war of extermination, and that does tend to help morale. Sometimes I wonder just how the USSR was actually able to win, though - Greater Germany has a usable/willing population of about half(?) that of the USSR, and the Wehrmacht, according to all sources I've found (or even just Wikipedia) manages to achieve a K:D of anywhere from 3:1 to 10:1 in just about every battle.

[@brag0001]

@@randomguy-tg7ok The war wasn't fought till no more men were available with otherwise plentiful resources. Germany was short on all kinds of supplies in 1941 already. Without supply problems the war would have been over in 1941. But "no supply problems" was never an option in the first place.

[@Szpareq]

@@randomguy-tg7ok what? Where are those sources claiming 3:1 AT LEAST ? They were some battles like that (SOME, keyword) but in the end Soviet losses were 1.5/2:1 compared to German military casualties. Soviet death count is inflated by starved POWs and civilian casualties.

[@randomguy-tg7ok]

Just... generally checking Wikipedia? I suppose I did overstate it a bit, because the Soviets suffer roughly equal casualties when they win hard, but here's a list of examples: Rostov ('41): 7.5:1 Operation Mars: ~3.5:1, being generous. Rzhev: 3:1 taking the largest estimates from each sides. Third Kharkov: 7.5:1, potentially 4:1 Citadel: 3:1 Second Smolensk: 2:1 according to the Soviets. (2nd?) Donbass: 10:1 according to the Germans which goes to about 3:1 once you adjust for the bullshit. Narva: 7:1 Bagration as a whole: Somewhere around 5:4 depending on your sources. 1945 Soviet offensives in Germany: Around 1:1

[@natethenoble909]

Napoleon rolls in his grave: At least I reached Moscow

[@putlerkaputt9201]

Lithuanian duke Algirdas-I made a tzar of Moscow shit his pants 3 times

[@andrewparker5096]

I believe in that instance Moscow had been abandoned and was not defended.

[@beanacomputer]

oof, buuuurn edit: what's up with the russophobia lmao chill

[@mikeohagan2206]

@ not enough nazis though. if germans had treated pows well they would have won over the russians and had russian and ukranian who were being starved by stalin fight against stalin. stupid stupid.

[@mikeohagan2206]

i thought that the ukraine was at first thinking the germans were saving them from stalin then the ss started killing them.

[@benismann]

Soviets: literally stopped Germany's advance Everyone: WoW pEaRl HaRbOuR sOoOoN

[@mrunseen3797]

Yeah the war was actually pretty over for the Germans. With or without America joining. America of course gave supplies, food and trucks and so on, which helped the Allies and the Soviets a lot. But Germany would have lost any how, the war presumably only would have dragged on longer.

[@FortuneZer0]

*Only a season was able to stop the Nazi advance.

[@beepbop6542]

@@FortuneZer0 *two. The Fall rasputitza halted the German advance almost as effectively as the winter.

[@legostarwarsfan1662]

Though if the us had not joined the iron curtain may have been much farther west than it ended up being.

[@FortuneZer0]

@@beepbop6542 Oh yeah my bad.

[@vaports6984]

20 minutes of ww2 real time we have been blessed today

[@Fruzhin5483]

Tania: "You can't hang all 190 000 000 of us" The nazis: "Doesn't mean we won't try tho"

[@stevekaczynski3793]

"If you had seen what I have seen in the east, you will know we must not lose this war" - Reported remarks of German civilian worker to other passengers in a Berlin tram, early 1945)

[@Yora21]

@@stevekaczynski3793 Doubtful. At that point there were already millions of Germans fleeing west from approaching Red Army troops. The only thing left was to reach the British and Americans for protection.

[@dezbiggs6363]

@@Yora21 or suicide. There were many, many suicides. One big reason was the fear of retaliation.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

@@Yora21 Indeed, but this individual had been a low-ranking part of the German occupation apparatus in the USSR and had seen a few things.

[@WERob-to5sp]

Stalin: I'll hang at least a million myself

[@RogerThat787]

Dr Felton and these guys I think are 2 of the top WWII channels on the KZbin.

[@ottovalkamo1]

You know it's going to be a loooong episode when only Barbarossa has been covered in 6 minutes, but there is another whole weekly episode on North Africa, Japan and the US!

[@lautaromoyano5692]

It's amazing to me how I've been spoiled of the whole narrative of this war my whole life in the media and by personaly studying the war and yet it get's me more intrested than any other series I've ever seen, a friend asked me to hang out and once I've noticed is the day of Pearl Harbor I cancelled it just to be able to see the special as soon as posible. Love you all Time Ghost's team!

[@defdandef5841]

The Pacific ain't going to be 'pacific' anytime soon

[@acutechicken5798]

Be more Spacific

[@osedebame3522]

Pacific means peaceful, because the guy who sailed across it and named it (Magellan I think) went at the one and only time it would ever be calm.

[@anantbisht6355]

@@osedebame3522 I think that was a joke, im not sure, as he said "Spacific", not specific, I am not 100% sure, so I cant wooosh you

[@edmundcowan9131]

Fine effort. We who love history salute you.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you Edmund, we appreciate your support

[@MrRemicas]

It's over Germany, I have the cold ground!

[@JJJBunney001]

You underestimate my ego and incompetence!

[@nicholasconder4703]

@@JJJBunney001 Remember, you don't need to worry about your opponents weapons or troops. You have the superior will, and the will enables you to overcome any obstacle (except cold weather, mud, machine guns, artillery, ...).

[@valentinstoyanov304]

I haven't missed a single video in this channel. Admirations for the content!

[@trisblackshaw1640]

I have a feeling many of these episodes are going to get a whole lot longer. I endorse this move.

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

Love the suit Indy. Well done and nicely handled the dramatics of the situation.

[@CatLegoDiver]

honestly this is _the_ best thing on youtube. Week after week you and your team put out the best retrospective coverage of the second world war ever produced! Love it. sign me up for that timeghost army. :-)

[@MrNicoJac]

Indy: "this is an extremely long episode" Me: "huh, it's only 19:53.... there's still a 1 missing in front of that in order to call it a long one! 😆"

[@thawk5987]

Drachinifel says hi!

[@Raskolnikov70]

Give it another year and a 20-minute episode will seem like a quickie....

[@samarvora7185]

@blue Tune in tomorrow for hundreds of Zeroes to find out.

[@MrNicoJac]

@blue Adding a zero makes no sense, I fucked up 😆 I meant a 1 in front, leading to 1:19:53. Silly brain of mine 😅

[@thomstant]

I love how wry this channel is. Great job balancing serious discussion with entertainment

[@simonkemfors]

"Six months, that's all we need" IJN: two days, take it or leave it

[@Lematth88]

The detail in the background : the flags cross in Hawaii ^^

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

I also noticed that the stuka's shadow is above western USSR

[@Raskolnikov70]

How do you guys notice this stuff? I'm always too busy listening to Indy and looking at the battlemaps.....

[@brianwhite2104]

@@Duke_of_Lorraine It isn't a stuka though... It's a Heinkel He 117 Greif

[@GeneralSmitty91]

In the words of Samuel L. Jackson in Jurassic Park: "Hold onto your butts"

[@yourstruly4817]

Ah, yeah "oooh, aaah", that's how it always starts, but then later, there's the running and the umm, screaming. - Ian Malcolm

[@indianajones4321]

Underrated comment

[@mcgarbageproductions588]

How are you so early? Ya using Hacks or somethin?!

[@TimDutch]

@@mcgarbageproductions588 Timeghost members have 2 days early acces.

[@GeneralSmitty91]

@@mcgarbageproductions588 I am a member of the Time Ghost Army, Enlist Today! Indy wants you!

[@WandererRTF]

Hanko makes for a quite an interesting story. To segway it in here... When the war started the Finns isolated the base and originally planned for assaulting it but soon decided otherwise.The Finns were mainly afraid of a Soviet attack starting from Hanko and had build a defensive lines along the Hanko cape to prevent that (known as 'Harparskog line'). The reason for this was quite obvious. Despite of the nominally being a naval base Hanko housed around 30 000 troops - and even an airfield - but very little if any naval assets... However as it became apparent that the Soviet forces were not planning on attacking from Hanko Finns pulled most of the Finnish 17th Infantry Division out from Hanko Sector leaving mostly just local forces to keep the Soviets sitting at the base. As the Finnish ships could already by August sail past the Soviet base when the corridors through the minebarriers were cleared the base mainly just hindered access to the safer coastal waterways. Soviet literature paints it as a defense against fierce artillery fire and repeated Finnish assaults. Problem is that the Finns did not have forces present to mount an assault - local forces supported by 1 infantry regiment and battalion of Swedish Volunteers did not really cut it. By digging through the Finnish records you can find that there were two instances or reconnaissance in force which may have been taken as 'assaults' but in reality in both cases the goal was simply to locate the Soviet positions and fortifications. As to the Finnish artillery at Hanko... Have you ever wondered were the Finns shunted all the pre- WW I relics the French and the British shipped as aid for the Finns during the Winter War? It was here. For example 'de Bange' guns (Mle 1877 & Mle 1878) dating to 1870s were used here. Contrary to the fighting on the main peninsula where very little took place, apart from recon efforts and artillery fire, the fighting on many of the small islands surrounding the cape however were fierce. Even more so as often the defenders could not withdraw. The Soviets were able to capture few additional ones but in practice gained very little terrain by these efforts and never reached the prepared Finnish positions. By October 1941 it had become clear to the Soviets that the base could not be held and withdrawal was started. One of the main reasons for this was that should the thick sea ice form on the Gulf of Finland, as it often does in the winter, It would isolate the base at Hanko cutting it off from any supplies or help. The evacuation was organized in multiple stages to prevent Finns from getting aware of it. First efforts started already on 16th of October 1941. By and large the evacuation was successful even if costly effort. The Soviet defenders used interesting setups of what the Finns later called as 'ghost machine guns' to mask their withdrawal. In essence they had rigged machine guns with very long ammo belts to record players which would periodically trigger the machine gun to fire a short burst giving an illusion of presence. These together with other measures worked fairly well and it took a little while before the Finns became aware that the defenders had fled. The Swedish volunteers (of the Svenska frivilligbataljonen - SFB) were the first troops to reach the center of Hanko. Town was heavily mined and it took quite an effort to clear it. As the Soviets fled they had tried to destroy everything of value but the Finns were able to salvage and restore to full working order quite a bit of it. Among perhaps the most notable were couple pieces of 180mm railroad artillery (TM-1-180) and 3 pieces of 305mm railroad artillery (TM-3-12). Something the Soviets had not been aware of - the Soviets bought all three TM-3-12 back after the war, and AFAIK all three are still 'serving' as museum pieces in Russia.

[@kstxevolution9642]

i love this new look with the camera at a lower angle and the backdrop being the whole map. the shadow play in the old setup was nice but this gives more of a news-y look which i particularly enjoy. excellent work as always

[@ThePRCommander]

The scale of this war is staggering. Insane.

[@aronjanssonnordberg307]

And thus ends Operation Barbarossa. Congrats to Indy and the team for covering this in such great detail.

[@alexamerling79]

Everyone: Pearl Harbor is coming soon! Me: The Soviet counter offensive against Army Group Center started today!

[@mammuchan8923]

I’m with you ✌️

[@stevekaczynski3793]

Definitely a momentous week all round.

[@james_chatman]

You know one of the most interesting things I realized is how quickly this war can take a turn in all three theaters.

[@alexamerling79]

@@james_chatman Right? This is when it truly becomes a world war

[@JasonSputnik]

I'm ready for the counter offensive!

[@AbrahamLincoln4]

Indy looking like he's preparing to take command of an army with that uniform. Looking slick Indy.

[@lomax343]

The German soldier who got closest to Moscow in 1941 may have been Hans von Luck. In his memoir, Panzer Leader (well worth reading) he says that on the day the offensive was finally called off, he led a reconnaissance unit into a small Russian town (it may have been Khimki as at 3:04 - I'm not sure). He came across an empty Russian HQ, in which was a table with an abandoned breakfast on it. Being a practical man, von Luck ate the breakfast. Von Luck was captured by the Russians inn 1945, and spent ten years in captivity. On being interviewed in 1955 to determine whether it was safe for him to be released, he told his judge - a Russian general - the story of his breakfast near Moscow. The Russian general looked at von Luck and said, "That was MY bloody breakfast." He then authorised von Luck's release.

[@the82spartans62]

Incredible.

[@hanzup4117]

So much unnecessary suffering and death :(

[@tomaszkrukar4795]

I think that It's worth to note that UK declared the war against Finland, Hungary and Romania December 5, 1941, which means that conflict again officialy became more global :)

[@jimsouch8632]

That is a really fancy suit.You've really outdone yourself this time Indy.

[@nobleman9393]

Hitler: I'll put you in your place. Stalin: I'll put you underground

[@billh230]

@blue They can warn it up a bit with a gasoline-fed bonfire.

[@tanaymehta4529]

@@billh230 under heavy artillery and kids defending berlin, of course.

[@fanis1414]

Somewhere down the line Adolf got confused and put himself underground

[@andersbrixserup7718]

This channel just keeps getting better and better, even when you didn't think it possible

[@markreetz1001]

"Long ... episode"? Hardly, Indy. Never long enough in my book. Great stuff! Keep up the good work.

[@ieuanhunt552]

Come back to me in 2 days after a 6 hour episode and say that.

[@bentkm]

Wow what a great episode. Thank you. Though we know what happened, your way of delivering the "news" makes it ever so exciting. Thank you!

[@Gia1911Logous]

Pointing out that is colder than Mars reminds me that Mars' personality from Greek Mythology is cold and he is the God of War Perfect discription of the situation

[@Mikhalych88]

Well, one year later it will be even more fitting. There's gonna be Operation Mars - Soviet attempt to retake Rzhev city and surrounding area

[@nicholasconder4703]

@@Mikhalych88 And it was launched in the winter as well. And it was a bloody affair.

[@Mikhalych88]

@@nicholasconder4703 Yeah, I know. Soviet soldiers nicknamed those series of battles in that region as a "Rzhev's Meatgrinder" for a reason

[@nicholasconder4703]

@@Mikhalych88 Mind you, based on what I can deduce from information provided in TIK's excellent Stalingrad series and a video on where German reinforcements were sent in 1942, these attacks did have merit. If the data is correct, the attacks at Rzhev denied Army Groups A and B the reinforcements they needed to reach and take Stalingrad and the Caucuses in August and early September 1942. In effect, German reinforcement of their armies at Rzhev starved the southern armies of desperately needed replacements, eventually setting the stage for the defeat at Stalingrad. It would be nice if someone did an in-depth study of this.

[@Mikhalych88]

@@nicholasconder4703 I know it too, watched a couple of TIK videos and watched a couple of documentaries in the past :) But at the same time it was still a meatgrinder for the soviet soldiers. The casualty rates have been quite high during that operation, even if they were justified. Harsh time, harsh decisions.

[@IrishCream386]

You'll never hear me complain about extremely long episodes

[@parallelworldsguy]

The big thing I have learned from this series over the last 6 months is how evenly balanced the German-Soviet war really was right from the start, despite the Germans' apparent decisive victories.

[@gorno9709]

I just realized that this whole series is basically the exact opposite of Oversimplified.

[@hq3473]

It is really good to finally connect the pieces and see which piece happened at the same time as other things.

[@jhonkennethmanimtim2469]

Excited for Indy to talk more about the Japanese conquest in the Philippines!

[@redsquirrel1917]

Excellent overview. I would point people to David Stahel's Operation Typhoon for a detailed and readable account of the failures in the drive on Moscow. Lack of attention to logistics, General Mud, and General, plus fierce Soviet resistance all contributed. Woody over at WW2TV also has an interview or two with Stahel.

[@zee7056]

"That's not gonna go well."

[@dlakoba4459]

wish I had a history teacher like this guy when i was in school ....

[@sunjamm222]

How much is that bridge then Indy?

[@richardmcguigan7834]

The longer these episodes are the bettier in my view. This is better than anything on tv today. Netflix or somebody should give you a contract.

[@TLTeo]

You know, watching this episode kinda made me realize that somehow, US planners are always overly confident in the capabilities of their newest military aircraft.

[@imperium3556]

Boeing, Lockheed and friends have very enthusiastic salesmen.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

The B-17 turned out to be something of a disappointment in the Pacific War - it was in Europe that it distinguished itself.

[@kemarisite]

@@imperium3556 Boeing always has. (Looks at US Import-Export Bank). Lockheed ... wasn't much of a thing at this point, with the P-38 barely entering production. The company had built the Vega and some airliners, and the Hudson light bomber derivative of the Super Electra from 1938. Curtis, on the other hand, had been building planes for the US government since WW1 and built one of the front-line US fighters in service in 1941, the P-40 Warhawk, with about 80 present on Oahu on December 7 along side another 40 Republic P-36s.

[@TLTeo]

@@stevekaczynski3793 True, but only when it was provided with proper fighter escort, and when those fighters stopped flying close escort exclusively. Not quite what the B-17 was supposed to be able to do.

[@generalfred9426]

Don't you talk smack on my Wildcat

[@thelondoner1526]

This is by far the most interesting week for me so far ! :O

[@pnutz_2]

Dear General Percival, I'm writing to give you words of encouragement in this dark time. I'm glad to hear the capital ships arrived, and with Japan seemingly on the move these will be a mighty deterrent. I also am confident the defences you've been building will be as impregnable as the 120,000 people you have manning Fortress Singapore. Anything Japan does shall smash upon the coast until the rest of the Royal Navy arrives to crush the Japanese. From what I hear the Americans have also been building up their presence in the Phillipines. This combined with our formidable power and the resources we're feeding to China through the Burma road will ensure Japan will listen to reason and stop their delusions of asian domination. with love, -Australia and New Zealand- The Rest of the Empire

[@kchishol1970]

Speaking about General Martin, how about a spotlight episode of how there were numerous warnings that Pearl Harbor was vulnerable to military attack such as Admiral Yarnell's and Admiral King's war games findings, in 1932 and 1938 respectively?

[@samirkosov6084]

As usual amazing stuff, can you please do more on the Eastern Front since it was by far the most decisive of the whole war, especially the battle of Moscow, as in Russia it is considered as important as Stalingrad. (Love to hear more about the 1st Guards Cavalry Corps as it is one of the most legendary units of WWII, the whole corps was no more than 20,000 at its full strength which was never the case fighting better and achieving more than most full Soviet armies, they are also the ones who defeated the famous Guderian's Tank army that conquered all of Europe). Thanks, you guys are the best!

[@revasgamer7793]

AAAAaannnnd Here we are!! Glad to see more focus and teachings shifting to my side of the world (SEA) in the series! From the Philippines here. BRILLIANT-AWESOME Content! Hungry for more.

[@InvertedGigachad]

FDR: Yeah, naval battles! Huuuuge battleships! Isoroku Yamamoto: The future is now, old man.

[@garrymartin6474]

So why put so many precious resources into building the Yamato and Musashi ? Hindsight is wonderful isnt it !

[@rhino1207]

@@garrymartin6474 Ship building cannot be done by one person. in fact, Yamamoto opposed the building of the super-battleships Yamato and Musashi as an unwise investment of resources.

[@ericcarlson3746]

(gets shot down and killed.)

[@ScarletEdge]

It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Every woman would tell you that. Boy.

[@Overlord734]

@@garrymartin6474 they were preparing for the Battle of Tsushima.

[@mckokan2306]

Im in the army since the 1st of december and now i need too watch everything i missed since then

[@remenir97]

This is really going to be an amazing week!

[@wickedsmokr6934]

I started watching the great war in 2016 ever since then I've waited for this week

[@pastlife960]

I’m sure we’ll get a War Against Humanity episode on the starvation of Leningrad.

[@AlexeyProk]

Im so addicted to this series

[@erichstreberg7101]

Im from manitoba Canada. It regularly gets colder than Mars, and I have in fact been outside on exercise in a training area colder than Mars on the day in question! It was an absolutely miserable experience and I can't imagine enduring it for any length of time.

[@paulthiessen6467]

Hey, I’m from Manitoba as well! My house is only 2 miles from the US border. You know, trying to be in the earnest part of the province.

[@sambugg4424]

I live in Whitehorse Yukon, it consistently gets colder then mars

[@stevekaczynski3793]

@@sambugg4424 "We're all going on a winter holiday - visiting a neighbour planet for a week or two..." (With apologies to Cliff Richard)

[@havable]

"FDR was a naval enthusiast" He was in fact Assistant Secretary of the Navy from 1913 to 1920.

[@macmedic892]

“This is an extremely long episode…” Boy, I hope nothing big happens next week.

[@Raskolnikov70]

Next Saturday - "Welcome to 'WWII in Real Time: Part 1 of 6"

[@starkparker16]

This is my favorite youtube channel to binge watch

[@bearcub460]

In your professional opinion, was the 1st day of Barbarossa the bloodiest day in history? What were the casualties that 1st day?

[@alwayscrabby7871]

20 minutes is NOT too long. Longer the better.

[@wtfbros5110]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HOME BY CHRISTMAS

[@nicolasheung441]

Yes, you will be home by Christmas *If your kameraden manage to drag your body along as they flee west!*

[@nicholasconder4703]

Which year?

[@nicolasheung441]

@M. DeV. Werner: While we are at it, why don't we let Friedrich carry this sack of potatoes for us? He would not mind......

[@spamsucksspam]

Infantry crossed rifles (actually, muskets)! The insignia of the U.S. Army Infantry! Hooah! Well done, Indy. Any Pearl Harbor wardrobe malfunctions are forgiven. You are certainly worthy of a commission, but you are already a general in the TimeGhost Army. I salute you. Carry on.

[@keepitsteel1993]

Admiral Neidell... On a side note as an Englishman it made me smile to think senior nazi's refer to the Allies as Anglo-Saxon powers at this point in the war..

[@Killabear-en2xq]

The music was really good this episode, especially the last 5-10 minutes.

[@InternetDarkLord]

Looking at the snow falling in the Operation Barbarossa clip gave me an idea. If you still have problems with KZbin demonitirizing, flagging, or even deleting videos, change the descriptions on your videos to ASMR videos. For example change "Allied troops storm the beaches on D-Day" to "People of many nations watch the waves crash on Normandy beaches." Change, "Today, the Germans attacked savagely at the Battle of the Bulge" to "For Christmas, people of different faiths and politics watch snow falling on the Ardennes forest." Instead of "British civilians lived in fear of German invasion in 1940" say "Girls relax after a stressful day by brushing their hair." Maybe it will go under the radar at KZbin.

[@oldesertguy9616]

It's worth a shot.

[@adamlee2550]

Not watching right now, but I'm here to leave a like and a comment. I will be joining the time ghost army come January, thanks for the years of great content and solid history.

[@Klaevin]

us war cabinet: "they aren't gonna attack the philippines. that would be retarded. we're safe" japan war cabinet: BANZAI!!!!!!!!

[@dash1011]

Best episode you guys have made to date in my opinion. Wonderfully done!!

[@hillbilly5609]

I hope we see more Finnish front action in the later years. Although I dont care which front Indy is talking about because he makes everything interesting.

[@emisat8970]

That's the thing though. Apart from shortening their lines by cutting the peninsula Murmansk is on, they didn't do much in the war until 1944. Their only goal was to take back the land that the USSR took.

[@louis-philippegirard7608]

@@emisat8970 Hey, is there a reason why a part of the Finnish frontline is shown in brown in the maps? Was there a German army there?

[@emisat8970]

@@louis-philippegirard7608 Yes. The German army based in northern Norway, which tried to cut the Kirov railway from Murmansk bringing Lend-Lease aid down.

[@hillbilly5609]

@@emisat8970 Cant wait for 1944 june/july

[@mrnobody5669]

@@emisat8970 While it's true that one of Finland's main objetives was to regain previously lost territory, there was a big demand from expansionists in the government for a "Greater Finland" once the war was over, including the posible anexation of Karelia, the Kola Peninsula and even beyond.

[@alitahir4147]

I love how Indy opens with an interesting on-call discussion.

[@harrisonsearles1470]

"The German drive has stopped. It has failed. It is over." One could say the very same thing about the entire German drive to win WW2 right now. The climax has been reached, but there are still three-and-a-half long years of resolution to be acted out.