125,000 Hong Kongers have come to the UK. Where are they? | SpectatorTV

Cindy Yu speaks to Hong Kong activist Simon Cheng and Reverend David Ho Young about the thousands of migrants who came to Britain following Beijings clampdown. Why do we know so little about them?
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[@KarinaStavenes]

I think my next-door neighbors from Hong Kong are some of the loveliest, kindest, most polite people, and I hope they feel welcome, and appreciated. Praying for them daily, and for all the families I see in the neighborhood, that everyone find peace, safety, and the stability that they need. It's never easy moving to a foreign country, and if we as a society can make it better for them, and help as best we can, that's going to be beneficial for all. May they see our values when it comes to loving our neighbors and treating them as we'd like to be treated.

[@skymanifest8339]

Nice or not, it would have been preferable if we had been asked if we wanted these people here, though, wouldn't it? Or do you think it's okay for the government to just ride roughshod over the British publics consent and transform the make-up of our nation without asking?

[@j.harrison6744]

They've integrated so well that you're not even sure where they're from..but they might be from Hong Kong, aye? *eyes roll*

[@SiL-uj2zl]

​@@skymanifest8339they were promised passports way back in the mid nineties just before the handover to China - where have you been?!

[@mikefish8226]

​@@SiL-uj2zlYou're conflating two things.

[@user-zc1xc1yz2j]

Truth is they are mostly riots and crminals😢

[@anglodoomer5995]

nations are not economic zones

[@abumohandes4487]

Quit smoking that stuff you're on.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

​@@abumohandes4487Engage in the issues. He's correct.

[@whocares5108]

​@@abumohandes4487moronic response.

[@angelah2083]

How refreshing to see an interview that is about information rather than confrontation. More please Spectator.

[@paulwilson7622]

Just how used to the UK culture are they? The UK culture here has been abused & distorted over the past 10-25 and not for the better!

[@andybrice2711]

A lot of them are actively pro-British, and they've moved here because they identify more with Britain than with China. If you look at the protests in Hong Kong, many locals were flying the Union Jack.

[@naturalisedhker7953]

I think it's important to just move on. I stayed in HK. I love living in HK and I don't want to leave anytime soon. I'm so happy for the people that found happiness in the UK. Just because these people are happier in the UK doesn't mean that the people they left behind aren't happy to be in HK. Food, culture, nature, infrastructure and the fast paced living is what I love about HK and the politics of HK have not impacted those things. I really don't appreciate it when I'm being told I should be angry or upset about what is happening in HK. I've lived here for 20yrs and I can only judge from what I can see happening not what I'm afraid will happen. It's still the same vibrant wonderful city I feel in love with all those years ago.

[@telephassarose3501]

Mostly intelligent well mannered people with genuine need for asylum. I feel for them leaving Hong Kong & hope they are supported & welcomed. Chris Patten made many mistakes in Hong Kong & we could & should have done better.

[@NoName32747]

Bristol. Every immigrant has moved here, it's overflowing.

[@aclark903]

#Easton?

[@tokaitrading8335]

To become slavery to continue to serve their imaginational “ lord “ only morons without wisdom do that 😅😅

[@Lando-kx6so]

That's a lie

[@smiggo1481]

Why can he celebrate his heritage but I cant celebrate mine?

[@Christian___]

Who's stopping you? You can Morris Dance your wee heart out as far as I can see!

[@danielyates9055]

Anglo background-American here. I hear your concern, almost like we can't be proud of our accomplishments, and are encouraged to be ashamed. But at the same time it feels like a second "British invasion" is happening here culturally. Like 4 of the top 10 movies on Netflix are British, not to mention last 2 Batmans and a Superman haha. Strange times lol

[@vladtheimpaler8995]

Hong Kong immigrants will be a net gain , economically for the U.K. They will contribute much , much more than any initial costs used to acclimatise them to our culture. A win , win .

[@BillCameronWC]

I’m British but lived in Hong Kong for quite a few years pre-1997. It so happens I’m now also married to a Chinese person from the mainland (a central Chinese province) who now has ‘right to remain’ status in the UK, happily, although is not likely to take up the opportunity to become a full UK citizen for the moment at least, because China does not recognise dual nationality & for family reasons in China it is not currently a viable option to renounce Chinese nationality, because of the possible repercussions for certain members of the family in China. I always felt that in general some Hong Kong Chinese had got a raw deal when HK was handed back to China in 1997 and that the vast majority who might come here would be an asset for the UK so it pleases me that events in China/HK (which I’m afraid I foresaw after the 1984 agreement was signed, leading to a gradual erosion of individual rights in HK, culminating in 2018/20) has prompted the UK government to reaffirm & extend the right of people to relocate to the UK, the fact that these new arrivals have largely passed under the radar here does not particularly surprise me because many will already have family members who have been in the UK for a few generations already, and those that don’t are probably mostly at least moderately competent in English & generally hard working & educated, even if they must accept somewhat lower-level jobs at least initially, but it is highly probable that their children will do well here.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

plenty of actual natives 'must accept somewhat lower-level jobs'....did you spare a thought for them

[@BillCameronWC]

@@nihilistlivesmatter Possibly, but I think the lower-level jobs ‘narrative’ for ‘natives’ is somewhat difficult to sustain given that the most important factor for decades was the free market in labour from the EU, which has now been ‘corrected’ to some extent with our exit from the EU (which, for the avoidance of doubt, I voted for), which has relatively little effect for those coming from the EU now who are professionals.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@BillCameronWC Ahh I see...so remind me who worked in in these lower level jobs right up until the late 90's...I'm sorry but Pedro & Claude were not working in the local kwik save?...it was my mum & my mates' mums

[@BillCameronWC]

@@nihilistlivesmatter If you’re talking about supermarkets, you will know that most are now ‘encouraging’ us to use automated checkouts with almost no human personnel whatsoever and are making it less convenient to use cash, rather than plastic. This is a quite separate issue from the issue you have been raising about immigration. My own feeing is that this is going to become an increasingly hot issue in coming years as more and more job categories can be, and more and more will be, replaceable by AI-based systems with much less need for actual human employees. Bank branches are increasingly being closed for example.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@BillCameronWC You're having a different conversation.....maybe lay off the cooking sherry for a while I pointed out that except for the last 20 to 25 years immigrants were not doing the lower level jobs you think are beneath your Hong Konger pets thay were done & still predominantly done by natives you don't seem to spare a thought for....don't know why you went off on an AI tangent

[@cac1504]

No More jobs for overseas workers in uk : “It’s not fair when cheap labor from overseas undercuts British workers. To protect them, we will cut cheap overseas labor. That is reducing the salaries of British workers. We will prioritise British employment first over overseas employment, and will ensure that only the best and brightest are taken from overseas that can contribute to the growth of our economy. All companies should therefore employ British workers first before any overseas worker. This will help protect the British people and meet up with what they want.” Home Secretary James Cleverly

[@garywood97]

An actual decent example of positive immigration. People who want to come here specifically because they value freedom. More of this and less of just random people floating across the channel in boats.

[@LS-xs7sg]

Totally disagree. The immigration of wealthy well educated people from hong kong will immediately push housing costs up even further. Leaving aside the obvious genetic and cultural insanity of making a homogenous society "diverse" (without actually asking the people directly) it is a huge economic cost for the natives and will probably lead to disastrous socio-political results in the future.

[@jamessmith1652]

They were denied these freedoms by their ex-colonisers for almost 14 years. Why?

[@nathaniel4334]

@@jamessmith1652because China would have invaded

[@davidbrunsdon3245]

Yes, just like the many illegal immigrants that will likely make a positive impact - if given the opportunity.

[@jamessmith1652]

China could roll in anyway. Deng Xiaoping even said that to Britain when Britain wanted to extend the "loan" on Hong Kong. Portugal gave passports to Macau residents. There was literally no excuse for Britain to not give HKers British passports in 1997.@@nathaniel4334

[@slypork5030]

They are piling into certain areas and no it's not good! Dulwich has been inundated, these people do not have good manners.

[@Christian___]

We should never have allowed the CPC to take over Hong Kong island and the southern Kowloon peninsula, we had no legal committment to do so, it's been nothing but bad news for the people living there.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

How would you have proposed stopping it? with a strongly worded letter to Xi Jinping

[@johnhouston9764]

Was the 🇬🇧 supposed to declare war on 🇨🇳? Do you realize how pointless 😒 that would have been 😢?

[@xi7837]

@@nihilistlivesmatterWith a militia

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@xi7837 Ok Rambo....good luck with that

[@xi7837]

@@nihilistlivesmatter worked in America against the British once. Why couldn’t of we have just given them guns and told them to hold tight. Why do you think America is the only country in the anglo-sphere that doesn’t regularly arrest people for twitter posts? After all Hugo Chavez distributed about 100,000 guns before he died and Venezuela has remained (perhaps for the worse) independent

[@shh_you_are_wrong]

We hear so little about them because they are polite, friendly, self sufficient, grateful, and they don't commit crimes.

[@skymanifest8339]

They also said that about the Windrush Generation and the Ugandan Asians, and look how their offspring turned out.

[@shh_you_are_wrong]

@@skymanifest8339 different cultures altogether

[@albaricca9576]

​Ugandan asians are highly intelligent and educated unlike you

[@hugod2000]

what brilliant comments. so much for racism. why not refugees from china instead on the windrush generation? we will never have an answer. Britain shsll never recover.

[@Ryan-gh4iz]

Hong Kongers are more than welcome here in the UK. In general they're industrious, educated, many speak English, not indoctrinated with religious mumbo-jumbo, and have lived accustomed to a UK-ish way of living up until 1997. Not only that but the very reason they're here in the first place is because of their desire to stand up for democracy and freedoms. IE - their way of life and values are a beautiful match to UK culture, a culture slowly eroding due to mass migration from the developing world.

[@skymanifest8339]

Welcome or not, industrious and educated, or not. There's no mandate for bringing them here. You know, it would've been nice if we had been asked or consulted in some way, wouldn't it?

[@Ryan-gh4iz]

@@skymanifest8339 for sure, but when has the government ever listened to the migration concerns of its citizens? Rather industrious, educated individuals that assimilate into the host culture than masses of unskilled, uneducated men from the poorest, most culturally opposed countries. I'm just getting tired of foreign borns telling us that we have no culture to lose.

[@jiaheung4628]

Did Britain consult the countries and places they colonised and ruled?

[@Ryan-gh4iz]

@@jiaheung4628 this type of thinking is too shallow for me. Did the Mongols? Did the Ottomans? The Romans? The Russians? The Japanese?

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

Fantastic another group to compete for housing jobs etc & remind us how racist we are if we're not 100% enthusiastic about it

[@deputyVH]

And if you want to move to another country because you don't like the situation here is that the same deal in your new country? Plenty of Brits move to other countries.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@deputyVH What country are you from?

[@evolassunglasses4673]

​@@deputyVHthey shouldn't be allowed to. Countries are ancestral homelands.

[@hachwarwickshire292]

​@@evolassunglasses4673 Chinese Bot. We don't use the term "Ancestral Homelands" .... Uncle Mao

[@Lando-kx6so]

If you have an issue with housing take it up with your tory government who caused the housing crisis in the first place. Immigrants are not to be blamed

[@money3ss]

Many HK graduates with low demand degree already abundant in local population

[@desdicadoric]

Any non muslim and non African immigration tend to be fine, strange that

[@durnham]

All Hong Kongers are welcome here in the UK! :)

[@serenachen9385]

Uk needed money hk bno is a gift to the uk 😂😂😂

[@arturotango7443]

its good that these fair weather Hong Kongers move out of the city state. I hope more leave for greener pastures abroad.

[@jartotable]

Legal Hong-Kong immigration is welcome

[@skymanifest8339]

Define "legal". If there's no mandate for this, and it never appeared in any election manifesto, I'd argue that it's actually illegal.

[@nicholowski4766]

This should be a source of great pride for us. Providing a safe home for people from Hong Kong is a moral obligation and I’m so glad we’ve done just that.

[@gmcgregor1686]

Hope these freedom minded people join in the fight to defend freedoms in UK, starting with ULEZ.

[@zeddez1005]

Oh my. Comparable to the Windrush generation?!

[@Manchester68322]

Let’s hope not

[@stevejhkhfda]

Educated, intelligent and polite - Hong Kongers welcome in UK :)

[@whocares5108]

Speak for yourself.

[@skymanifest8339]

It's just as well that they are educated and polite, I guess, because we weren't asked if we wanted them here anyway....

[@albaricca9576]

​@@skymanifest8339jealous?

[@se7enzee444]

Simon should open massage parlors in the UK. He can hire all those HKers who need a job.

[@andrewling3525]

Are the 125,000 hkgongers having a better future ??

[@anguswatson418]

A large community moved to Sale, Cheshire. Apart from out competing locals on the housing market there's no issues

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

pretty big issue when we have a housing crisis ho hum

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Biggest issue of our time. No home no children.

[@johnjaw19]

​@nihilistlivesmatter5197 I think the point is that immigrants will always affect house prices simply because they create demand. However, with other immigrant groups there are many other negative effects. So in comparison this is good immigration.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@johnjaw19 I think the point is there is no good immigration.....only positives negatives etc...in our current state the positives are vastly outweighed

[@marielouisebeck8732]

These are decent people. Hong Kong belonged to UK until it was unfortunately handed over to China through some ancient Agreement and although UK tried to keep HK , China was adamant. British people had an affiliation with people of HK we watched while China took over HK, how absolutely awful it must have been. Why would the British not welcome these people, you could not compare them to the trash that is being welcomed to my country at the moment by the uk government. Fortunately the majority of true Brits patience is rock bottom, consequences will happen and the government will be no more, no one wants feeble minded politicians of any party, we are coasting along on very choppy waters. Thank you for this amazing article.

[@hyphenpearce3224]

God bless you all. The left do not understand Intragration? These people have gr8 family values. Work hard and excel. 😊

[@evolassunglasses4673]

This is my ancestral homeland not an economic zone open to the World.

[@EY_YES]

they're a mafia...period..invasion force

[@alanwilliams3677]

We are told constantly that the immigrants already here are an incalculable benefit. We need less immigration, not more.

[@AM2K2]

@@evolassunglasses4673 No one cares

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@AM2K2 I care....I think it's the biggest issue for our country in 80 years

[@stevefricker7005]

This is the kind of immigration that most normal people like. Hard working and intelligent.

[@j.harrison6744]

I've got nothimg against these people, but some of the commentators saying that they're "good" immigrants as opposed to the "bad ones" are completely misding the issue.

[@SiL-uj2zl]

So what is the "issue"?

[@sunmanyi3265]

Ho, ho, ho...blithe me! The rolls of his eyes and the sway of the body, hello young English boys please welcome to the David church, ho, ho, ho...🌈

[@cirilosy1076]

What happened to Ho Yik King?

[@alanc457]

She died

[@reneocheta9275]

I hope no more ho yik king. Not ever again.😓

[@zoobee]

many have moved to Sutton Coldfield. a rather substantial community here

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

I wish I could buy a house in Sutton Coldfield

[@LS-xs7sg]

@@nihilistlivesmatter Well that is the aspect nobody discusses. The Tories know that the Hong Kong immigrants are going to be wealthy and well educated. So they will push up housing costs (lining the pockets of older Tory voters & donors) and perhaps vote Tory in the future out of some sense of gratitude. Though their children won't be voting Tory because they will enter the same metropolitan liberal system as every other rich kid. But the Tories cant see in front of their noses on this issue. Nor do they seem to care for the long term survival of the native population.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@LS-xs7sg Too many make the same mistake ..Tories are not the party of traditional Britain or even the British people...they are the party of business & free trade, until people wake up to this there will be no change

[@LS-xs7sg]

@@nihilistlivesmatter Totally agree. The Tories know that if they go on and on about the "small boats" most people will think they are the party of "low immigration". Most people are too thick to actually look at the stats. I vote "far right" wherever I can and support traditionalism. The liberals don't even understand that they don't have a lasting social model. Cat ladies do not reproduce. The only people reproducing at above replacement level are those on benefits and the religious. The "liberal values" the elite harp on about wont hold.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

​@@nihilistlivesmatterthe Torys are completely captured by international finance capitalism and the forces of open borders Globalisation

[@dawnduskwinter]

At least they are not muslims.

[@bigfoot8103]

Has anyone checked the drawers?

[@liamhemmings9039]

Welcome!!!

[@lynnhauenstein4136]

As a yank, I see true story folks from HONG KONG just for freedom...as a yank near Vancouver Canada 20y ago. We knew Canada accepts Hong Kongers, citizenship, if immigrants after 1986, could bring 100,000 Canadian dollars in.

[@guff9567]

Welcome

[@Roy-in-U.K.]

Nice to see they have integrated with the British community instead of setting ghettos up as many other scrounging pondlife seem to do!😎

[@user-ih6oe9ny3j]

Well that's because the ones that came are millionaires/very wealthy. If it was the average hong konger they'd have have set up their ghettos in poorer areas.

[@slypork5030]

They stay in little groups and are very bad mannered. The schools in Dulwich are being inundated.

[@skymanifest8339]

Ah yes, the Conservatives, once again conserving nothing....

[@SiL-uj2zl]

You mean holding their 30 year pledge to give passports to Hong Kongers? Refreshing to see a government stick to their guns for a change

[@LS-xs7sg]

They should stay in Hong Kong and fight for the future of their own people. Instead the Hong Kongers will likely climb the slippery pole like the Hindus and pursue their own ethnic interests - granting more visas to people like themselves. And further undermine the ethnic integrity of the Nation. I don't want to live in a crowded and ethnically fragmented society. I want a nation bound by ties of ancestry, culture and religion. Is there anywhere people like me can move where we can perhaps have a small bit of England to ourselves? I would rather not live in a globalist cosmopolitan carpark thankyou

[@glowmentor]

Lots in Edinburgh. And they are MOST welcome!

[@pakelly99]

Dan th boozer yew mug 🍺

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Hang on a minute. 20 minutes ago, Cindy was telling Douglas Murray that 70% of Hong Kongers have degrees. They all speak English and they just sell their Hong Kong flats and buy a London Flat. They are as English as the next guy already (because the British were there 25 years ago). So the lease was for 100 years and we have been gone from Hong Kong for a quarter of the entire time of the lease but they are just Englishmen in waiting. Suddenly something very different is being said in exactly the same Week in 60 Minutes. There was zero reason for Boris to throw open the gates to Hong Kongers. Go home, we are full.

[@hachwarwickshire292]

Cheers Uncle Mao

[@skymanifest8339]

​@hachwarwickshire292 Actually, Mao would have undemocratically enforced change without a mandate, so you're the one being the Maoist, here.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@hachwarwickshire292 The CCP is one of my concerns. To call me Uncle Mao, seems a little, well, daft.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@hachwarwickshire292 Was Mao opposed to exporting Chinese influence to the UK? Was he opposed to exporting Chines Triads to the UK to undermine us? Was he opposed to having a nice pathway to import CCP spies to the UK? Sad comment.

[@slypork5030]

100%, the "these immigrants are better that those ones" argument is ridiculous. My area of West Dulwich has been inundated, they pack the schools and public transport. Wander around in little groups staring, are very ill mannered! They will push an old lady out of the way for a bus seat and have a very haughty attitude towards the general British public. Like reptiles, they have little to no personality and worship money. They are not by any means "integrating."😂

[@hachwarwickshire292]

Not enough. We need as many as possible if this country is to recover from the period of regression of the last 20 years ! 5 million if we can

[@minooverdi5459]

A lot are my couriers..

[@slypork5030]

Yes already taking jobs that we didn't need them to fill, so great.

[@Gilberthasit]

They don’t need jobs they all have net worth more than you will ever make in your lifetime. They just doing it for a pass time not for the money…

[@juvezhang1715]

In UK they are happy to work blue color job. In HK they are ashamed to take this job.

[@moodyonroody5313]

Do relatively rich, educated immigrants need government funding? Good luck to them but just asking ....not saying the issues regarding mainland China are not relevant. Are most Christian? Just asking as you've interviewed a vicar as if it's relevant - is it?

[@cypresse1620]

She interviewed a vicar because his church is helping lots of migrants settling into local lives… People can meet and make friends at his church, which provides a functional community for new comers to adapt. Hence it’s relevant. The British government, mosques or synagogues are not organising such weekly meet and greet, are they?

[@philipjh6789]

Are you even Christians?

[@lagunafishing]

Two young Hong Kongers armed with a bunch of £50's were each witnessed buying up food stocks and kitchen essentials in Tesco's for setting up new homes last week... courtesy of British taxpayers.

[@hachwarwickshire292]

Yoo puck off ome to China ... Uncle Mao. We welcome Hong Kong People

[@thinkingaloud5379]

Don't forget UK plundered their resources and stole billions from HK.What's a few hundred quid to give back to these colonised minds?

[@capri2673]

@@thinkingaloud5379 Living Brits didn't take anything from those people. Maybe we should ask Italy for reparations because of the Roman Empire?

[@thinkingaloud5379]

@@capri2673 There are plenty of Brits who were involved in HK who are still living as HK was returned to China only in 1997.Even the last governor, Patten, is still hale and healthy!Things stolen should be returned and there is no time limit .I am asking Brits to return only what's not theirs .Why not start with the thousands of Chinese artefacts now in British museums which were looted by British troops when they burnt down the Summer Palace?

[@capri2673]

I see them in my town. It'd be nice if they spoke English. We've let them live here, after all.

[@jiaheung4628]

I agree anyone living in the U.K. should learn english. Please remember Britain colonised these places and ruled without ever being voted for.

[@thinkingaloud5379]

The British owe these colonised minds a responsibility and must not abandon them now that they are in the UK.After all,they did the bidding of their British handlers in HK to destabilise it and unfortunately failed as they did not get the support of the majority of Hongkongers.

[@karlstriepe8050]

Very similar to the Hugenot Migration of 1680.

[@SiL-uj2zl]

Couldn't agree more 👏

[@yiaplengwee5909]

These 125k Hong Kongers love their colonial masters so much that they now follow them to UK......

[@ReekieReels]

I support this, not only because modern Britain can actually be said to have abandoned Hong Kong; not in history, not some distant past, but in 1997! I think the handover of Hong Kong was a mistake, and so I believe we have a responsibly to its people. The other reason I support immigration from Hong Kong is that it helps to diversify Britain's immigration profile. Excluding London, and excluding other Europeans; for example the Poles, Britain's immigration has been very narrow, mostly just from South Asia. Britain should also be doing more to diversify immigration geographically; I sometimes think that if Scotland had had the same levels of immigration as parts of England have had, we'd take a less judgemental and naive view of those in England who're rightly unhappy about the levels. The levels are and have been, too high.

[@johnhouston9764]

You seriously don't know that thousands of single men from Albania have invaded? Not to mention southeast Asian illegals 😢.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

What if the Brits don't want diversifying? do they get a say?

[@Christian___]

@@nihilistlivesmatter What counts as a 'brit'? Hong Kong was a cornerstone of the British Empire.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@Christian___ Why do you put Brit in quotations & start it with a lower case b? do you reject the label somehow.....someone born in Britain with Britsh ancestry would be the answer

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Modern Britain = an overcrowded economic zone open to the World in the interests of international finance capitalism. My part of London has collapsed into Mogadishu. There will be no good ending now. Wake up.

[@phantasia75]

One of this government's greatest and most unsung achievements was giving asylum to Hong Kong citizens.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Shouldn't be allowed in. This is my ancestral homeland not an economic zone open to the World. End of.

[@peggajordan5635]

There were British Subjects

[@chezfalcini6793]

Well we shouldn’t of took hongkong in 1842 then 😂

[@Christian___]

Do you have the same views about the British colonists and British immigrants living in America and Australia?

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

@@chezfalcini6793 Very odd....they are here now because we were there then? almost sounds like an eye for an eye.....how smsllminded of you

[@AM2K2]

Alright Barry end of

[@thug4lyfe]

THese forkers can stay in Pom land.

[@wtfamiactuallyright1823]

Cut the crap. I was and am pro helping out our Hong Kong buddies, so long as you're highly vetted and still being so (CCP spies are already causing problems etc.) and that you integrate ASAP, I believe you can. You're automatically gonna get very similar privileges to the indigenous peeps here and more in some areas, so don't ask for more. Beyond that, welcome, and I look forward to maybe meeting one of you some day and if it's in a year's time or more, you better be speaking English. Far better than boats across the channel, but I still expect certain standards to be upheld, because I have more respect for you guys.