13 things I like and 11 things I hate about my 2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Willys review

[@valerieleclair4099]

I have the 4xe 2022 Sahara. I’ve been able to get up to a 29 mile charge and am averaging 37 mpg! I am in love with this Jeep! It’s my third and by far the nicest I’ve owned. ✌🏼0lllllll0

[@doublejslist]

Great to hear!

[@davidp1963]

One thing that I love about it is that it is qualified by the DMV for a carpool decal which gives me the privilege to drive it in the carpool by myself (here in California the carpool is for 2 people or more)

[@AStanton1966]

I agree about the driving experience in a Wrangler. I just bought a new 2023 Wrangler Willys. My other 2 vehicles are a Charger Scatpack and a Silverado and the Wrangler gives a whole new experience--you're sitting high up--large and in charge.

[@rogercanady6227]

As a Jeep addict, I have a 2005 TJ Rubicon and a 2024 Rubicon X on order, I would say this is a good review. My only 2 cents would be for buyers to really understand what a Jeep is. It's a two solid-axle off road vehicle, it rides like a heavy duty truck with two solid front axles, understand that. I would not even classify it as an SUV due to its hard characteristics. The top would leak (more than they already do) if it were made of more pieces. Do your homework if you are looking to buy a Jeep. It can be the worst choice you make or the best... not much in between. Great call on the tires, you would think the Rubicon would get the M/T. Good job on the video!

[@aaronyoung6903]

I’m looking at getting the Rubicon X as well. What was your reason on the engine you ended up going with? Did you get a 2 or 4 door. We will probably do 2 this go around. Our current is a 2015 Unlimited. Don’t really use all the space in the back. Just me and my wife.

[@rogercanady6227]

@@aaronyoung6903 I got the 4 door because I’m keeping my 2 door for hard wheeling. This new one will be for easier trips where my wife wants to go. Usually it’s just me and my 10 year old who take my current Jeep out. I got the 3.6 engine due to its tried and true longevity. I’m sure the 2.0 is amazing but I just took the 3.6 for that reason. Flip of a coin really.

[@ArgyleAdams]

Regarding the transmission, the automatic transmission is an intrinsic part of the hybrid system (one of the electric motors is built into the transmission and takes the place of the torque converter). A manual version would require a complete drivetrain redesign, so I'm fairly confident in saying it's never going to happen on the 4xe.

[@DZ-cm5xw]

Agree, a manual just can be fit in the 4xe design, regarding the tranny, it is a Good one in 4xe, same manufacturer as the ones in Acura and other brands.

[@DZ-cm5xw]

Regarding wireless car play, it is pointless because there is no wireless charging pad in a Wrangler.

[@threeraid]

At least half of the 11 dislikes you mentioned have been addressed for the 2024 model which is nice honestly. It definitely a great car

[@arlendavis]

To be able to shift the automatic transmission in manual mode is good enough for me.

[@HeWhoIsNamedPatrick]

I work 3 miles from my home and plug it in at work and I’m still on my original tank of gas from when the dealership filled it and it’s been almost a month. To the wrangler enthusiasts who say they will never buy a hybrid, you are fools and I hope you enjoy throwing away gas money every few days.

[@defilade1066]

You have to pay for electric. Energy is not free.

[@brentandlizscott140]

@@defilade1066I charge mine for free at the municipal parking lot by my house🤷

[@bigmacmach1185]

I have a gladiator gobi willys, softtop with a manual. I enjoy the manual except the clutch sucks. Would totally replace it if I felt like spending the money. Otherwise, I like it being tech enough but simple. Softop is totally worth a little extra noise, takes 10 seconds to fold back.

[@dadams5040]

I love my 2023 Willys with the one touch power roof! 😂

[@paulvansteenberghe4644]

I built 2 electric vehicles in the early 2000s, both had standard transmissions, even though it could be run without shifting in 3rd or 2nd gear because of the high torque and rpm’s available. I like shifting and you can hardly believe the torque you can get in 1st gear with 500 hp and 600 ft lb of torque. We’d get mid 4 second 1/4 miles shifting 1st and 2nd, but would get low 4 second 1/4 miles just keeping it in 2nd. These times both started with the clutch fully engaged and stomping on the throttle. We’d often slip the double sprung CenterForce clutch and burn about 15 ft of rubber with these 5000 lb lead acid based electric vehicles. Good times for sure!

[@paulvansteenberghe4644]

Not 1/4 miles, 0 to 60 mph was mid and low 4 seconds. 1/4 mile was about 10 or 11 seconds at about 130 mph.

[@LuisRodriguez-vk2ym]

i have a 2023 Runicon 4xe 20th anniversary, and ive noticed the battery last longer if you turn off the AC or heater. also, the top does not weight 180 lbs, its about 100.

[@doublejslist]

I’m just going by what the owners manual said it weighs.

[@NovaCaddoWolf]

I had a 4XE Rubicon and I liked the horse power and the looks of the blue accents. However on long trips when the electric range was depleted it felt like the engine had to work to accelerate and maintain charge on the battery. It's also a very complicated drive train. 4XEs are great for short commutes but if you want one long term buy an extended warranty because the hybrid components are expensive. I ended up trading it for a Gladiator Mojave because I wanted to carry more and I liked the fox suspension.

[@doublejslist]

Yeah, after living with a PHEV, I’m ready to go back to full EV.

[@mtibbe]

I just bought a 2024 high altitude 4xe and it does have wireless car play

[@doublejslist]

I believe that they have added it for 2024!

[@frankybabysr]

Great vid! Just got my 4xe about a week ago! Looking forward to more videos! Cheers!

[@doublejslist]

Life is a little crazy right now. But there is more content to come!

[@J-W.-]

Love my Willy’s 4xE normally keep it eletric only range since I don’t drive much. Sometimes I do e save mode to fire engine up manually just to please my “ICE” itches I must say it’s weird having a dual clutch in a wrangler but I’ve always been a fan of them just never even thought nor noticed until recently it was one. Only negative I have is that 2.0T sounds like bolts in a can sometimes but it doesn’t bother me much.

[@doublejslist]

Yes! The 2.0 is especially noisy when it’s cold!

[@mu1ch1r0-]

it’s the jeep wave! duck jeep, a happy ride💕

[@jason84]

I traded in my 2018 bolt in January for a Willys 4xe. I purchased someone else's brand new soft top off of facebook marketplace, and that's going to be my weekend project of taking off the hard and putting on the soft top for the summer. I would say your likes and dislikes match up to what I have seen and experienced as well. Great video!

[@doublejslist]

Thank you!

[@CIAG4PNP]

A manual transmission would be you pushing it 😂🤣

[@eugene2036]

How many electic miles does the willys 4xe get on a full charge? This might be the better trim to go for. In the 2024 models, I heard they will have lockers like in the ribicons.

[@doublejslist]

I have been seeing up to 26 miles in the summer in city roads. I think the 23 Rubicons have lockers.

[@HSPGroup-e8x]

Sky Top or bust!

[@uniwerksdesign4680]

Good review as per usual! You solidified my initial thoughts on that thing. Seems like it would be a great and fun 2nd vehicle to use on weekends offroad.

[@ExSoldier762]

I’m driving a loaner from the dealership while they continue to work on my 2008 Wrangler Sahara. They’ve given me a loaner 2023 Grand Cherokee L and Apple Car Play works extremely well.

[@CoffeeJake]

The flip key is to lock the console

[@doublejslist]

Makes sense.

[@jefflloyd394]

The big key, does the battery last longer, is it water proof, does it have better range?

[@doublejslist]

Great questions! I don’t know!

[@timflaherty2731]

I was shocked when you said the hard top weighs 180 pounds? Is that for real? Also, have you had any reliability problems (over and above what's expected for a Jeep)?

[@doublejslist]

I read this somewhere. Three of us put it back on my Jeep for the winter this past week and I agree, I think it’s lighter.

[@mattmopar440]

Ive never seen a Willys only Rubicon's and Saraha

[@jaredrepka562]

Finally someone who knows how to pronounce the name!! and.... Go Bills!

[@doublejslist]

Go Bills!

[@Wrangler4XEFans]

Subscribed.

[@DZ-cm5xw]

Regarding the big key, it actually serves a purpose. My wife and daughter frequently misplaced the Honda key but for 5 years, the Jeep key is never lost in the house.

[@SVW1976]

😂 Stop it.

[@DZ-cm5xw]

There is difference where men vs women put their car keys. Man put them in their pockets, women put them in their purses.

[@evanleo7633]

I’m bit late, but I have two questions, first one: does the truck run stay in electric mode at highway speed? Does the engine kick on at all before the battery is depleted? Second one is there a “step” in the gas pedal to let you know if you pass that point the gas engine will kick on? Thanks!

[@robbieromain7382]

There is 3 drive modes. You can drive in hybrid which combines power and gas and gives you best performance. Theres also a all electric mode which u can chose to just run full electric. E save is the last one which you can chose to focus on charging battery or focus on using less battery. Its pretty great :)

[@evanleo7633]

@@robbieromain7382 so in electric mode the truck can go at highway speed? I know some hybrid does require the engine running sometime even in EV mode because the electric motor is not powerful enough

[@robbieromain7382]

Yes 100% electric

[@doublejslist]

If you floor it, even in all-electric mode it will bring on the gas engine. It’s more apt to fire up the gas engine in hybrid mode. They never fully deplete the battery. It reads 0%, but there is a small reserve.

[@ExSoldier762]

There will never be a manual model and it has nothing to do with mechanics (although that’s also a primary reason as has been mentioned) but the reason is social and cultural. Nobody under the age of FORTY can drive a stick anymore! I’m 66 and I was raised on a stick. Learned to drive off-road in an army M151-A1 quarter ton JEEP. I was a U.S. Army Infantry Officer from 1980-1994 between active and reserve time.

[@estimatingonediscoveringthree]

Thank you. Would you tow a camper with it?

[@lindaspins]

We do with ours, and it does well with lightweight campers. Tow rating is 3500 lbs total.

[@doublejslist]

I would definitely tow within the factory recommendations. With gas and electric combined, it has a ton of torque.

[@TxJK18]

The real negative thing about this particular electrified variant is the long term longevity. Once that battery dies it just going to be a dead weight, also the cooling system of the jeep is tied to the cooling of the battery another nightmare to deal it. Off course most of the people that buy the 4xe wont be keep them for the long run.

[@doublejslist]

I don’t think battery longevity is a huge issue. With good temperature management, EV batteries seem to go in excess of 200,000 with a small amount of degradation. Time will tell if Jeep did it right.

[@andyschuldt7580]

Worst thing about any jeep? Replacing windshield too often. I’ve had my 4xe for 5 months/12k miles and already had to replace mine. Was same issue on my jk

[@doublejslist]

I already have a small crack!

[@cowelk]

I have had my 2021 Wrangler Sport for over 3 years and have 55,000 miles on it. I finally found a rock that cracked the windshield. I am getting it replaced next week with Gorilla Glass. I hear that is even tougher to break. I run mine like a Jeep should be run. Everywhere both on and off road. The only time I get the rocks hitting the windshield appear to be at Interstate speeds.

[@SVW1976]

What you talkin bout Willis?!

[@MusicLoverzpage]

Hows your car in the rain?? I know it is good on M/S

[@doublejslist]

I have now complaints .the combination of mud tires and live axles makes it a little weird on the highway, but I’ve noticed no difference in dry or wet.

[@deerhunter-uj9xb]

My concern would be as a very serious off roader, the extra weight of the battery concerns for sand and mud flotation issues

[@doublejslist]

I don’t have first hand experience, but I think it’s more of a challenging trail rig than an mud bogging, sand blasting machine.

[@DZ-cm5xw]

For the 11 things: 1. I bought a 2024 4xe, it has wireless carplay, but I don’t use it. I prefer to plug my phone in a cable so that my phone get charged at the same time. 2. The backseat is not meant for humans, it is a torture chamber since the JK unlimited released. But in our case, the backseat passenger in the family is our beloved golden retriever, who fits nicely back there. It also discourages friends to asking for a ride, yeah!! After my wife trucked her friends inside our 2018 JL, it seems they never want to ride in it…again 3. Radio presets? Never use them and don’t even know where they are and how to set them 4. EV range is a joke, I only use the EV for acceleration. If I remember to charge it, I will charge it, otherwise the Turbo 4 is good enough.

[@doublejslist]

I think I’ve only filled up my Jeep 5 times since I got it in March.

[@DZ-cm5xw]

Actually now I start to worry about the gas engine does not get a chance to fire up as the daily commute is 18 miles and right below the 4xe range.

[@Pinazojr]

What type of deal did you get on the lesse

[@doublejslist]

$7500 of the federal $ and $2000 from NYS.

[@jneptune1540]

Also no rear side airbags. Been to couple accidents where there were accidents and the rear curtain bag bags could have saved major injuries

[@peterc8979]

The hinges will rust, jeep can't keep up with the warranty claims

[@doublejslist]

I’ll definitely monitor it!

[@MOLOKAIKOA11]

can't you get the 3-piece roof top?

[@doublejslist]

It is technically 3 pieces. The rear piece is pretty big and weighs 180 lbs.

[@andrewshenton6541]

Stella this cup holders

[@edwardbughiuc100]

13-11=2....so there are only two things you like about it....for 60k. Wait until warranty runs out.

[@doublejslist]

I don’t think they canceled each other out. Interesting take.

[@davidbrieske]

What is the name of your color??

[@doublejslist]

It’s called, “High Velocity.” I’m not a huge fan of the name, but I love how it looks, especially with the black.

[@CoffeeJake]

Manual hybrid won’t happen

[@doublejslist]

Honda did it on both the first gen Insight, and seventh gen Civic hybrid.

[@MrBoomStick]

Few if any manual drivers would buy a hybrid.

[@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670]

My wife had three Rubicons and now has a 2024 4xe Willys. You did a very pleasant review, but how could you NOT include the absurd price in the things you hate? 62K? These are truly fun and unique vehicles I F you are an off-roader. If not, they are an absurdly overpriced, electrically and mechanically unreliable vehicle. My wife had so many problems with her Rubicons at that this time around she got a five-year extended warranty. These are cult cars, and after all these years, Jeep has never learned how to make a truly reliable vehicle. Even the jeep technicians at two different dealerships admit that. I’m kind of a dull guy, so I drive a 2023 CRV top trim hybrid. They are entirely different vehicles for comparison true enough, and my AWD is certainly not for off-roading. But my CRV is infinitely more refined and infinitely more reliable with lots more room and more storage space even though it is considered a compact SUV. There is no excuse for so many Jeep reliability problems. I’m glad my wife, who pays for her own car, this time got an extended warranty. With the electrical problems which popped up in her Rubicons, I can hardly imagine what kind of problems will show up in this truck down the road. And with a CD of .47, forget about good mileage when you’ve used up your charge. On a recent trip where she couldn’t recharge, she was getting 17 MPG on the highway, which was worse than the Rubicon. It’s a heavy cinderblock by design, so there is no real fix for that.

[@doublejslist]

With the incentives and tax credits at the time I leased mine, it was one of the least expensive leases on the market. I don’t think I’d ever pay $60k+ for one of these things. The quality isn’t there. But it sure is fun to take the top off in the summer, and be pretty unstoppable in the winter.

[@dadams5040]

Wireless CarPlay is trash honestly long term

[@Dex_NeutralMinded]

It looks like you beed a Bronco. The engineers were fired 20 years ago so no real changes.

[@doublejslist]

But there’s no plug-in Hybrid Bronco.

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

Nice color, but i will wait for thr new 2024 Lexus GX offroad.. 🦾