$149 Mountain Bike vs mountain - The Walmart Enduro

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Welcome to Pisgah Forest, home to a huge array of remote and challenging mountain bike trails. To get anywhere here, you need to climb a few thousand feet. To get out alive your bike needs to hold up to roots, sharp rocks, and sustained braking. There’s no cell phone reception out here, and the trails are far too narrow for emergency vehicles. When your very life depends on your equipment, what value would you place on reliability?
That fact that we’re at Walmart is pretty irrelevant. It could just as easily be Target, Amazon.com, or even Canadian Tire. They all offer the same thing-bikes built and assembled to the lowest spec possible.
With names like trouble, wipeout, ambush, and carnage, these bikes deliver what they promise, but today we’re staying optimistic. Alex and I are taking our time and weighing our options. Even in a sea of super cheap bikes, we can choose the ones that suit our priorities best.
We settled on a pair of Genesis V2100’s, which had front discs, threadless headsets, and half decent saddles. As we checked out, reality started to set in. We’d be relying on these bikes for over 5000 feet of elevation change. We’d need all the help we could get. Back at the house I packed everything from sockets to gorilla tape, to zip ties, to extra food, lest we get stranded on the far reaches of mount Mitchell.
We set out with our new bikes in tow, and kept two main goals in mind; Make it down the trail in one piece, and finish it off with Mexican food.
What started as a ride quickly devolved into a grueling hike. It wasn’t the gearing, or even the weight-we just tried and couldn’t. The tires had no traction, and the bikes flexed like crazy under any kind of torque. Once the grade evened out we had a much easier time, and started to clear some serious ground. We were enjoying nature, and It wasn’t long before we reached our first downhill.
Although it was only 50 yards, it was telling. Alex and I settled in for a long ride up the old Mitchell toll road, knowing full well that the climb might be the easy part.
We were climbing at a snail’s pace, painstakingly choosing our lines. Our cranks started creaking, and our hubs began to eat themselves, but we picked our way up the toll road without encountering any major mechanical failures. In fact, we were enjoying ourselves. For $149, Alex and I were taking part in an activity enjoyed by the likes of dentists and jewelers, with their pretty $6000 bikes. What do those bikes do that these can’t anyway?
On my trail bike, this janky rock garden is a blast. On this bike, I couldn’t wait for it to be over.
As you can see, Alex had been going much slower than me. He had the sense to. His bike had not one bit of damage to it, while I was nursing a blown up fork and no drivetrain whatsoever. It was clear by this comparison that speed is the major destructive force on these bikes.
As I edit this video, my hands, arms, shoulders, and torso still hurt from this ride. On my trail bike, the brakes can be applied with one finger. On the Genesis, braking is a full body workout that leaves you in pain for days.
We had made it to the end, sort of…. we still needed to get to the car. Luckily it was mostly downhill and I could hitch a ride on Alex’s backpack. After beating ourselves up for the better part of 5 hours, there was only one thing on our minds.
Playing around on department store bikes might be fun and games, but I found that riding one on an actual mountain bike excursion is not fun, and most definitely not a game. Still I’m amazed that Alex’s bike survived. Although he was using a lot more restraint than I was, everything from the gears to the brakes were working at the bottom. To Walmart’s credit, there are warnings on these bikes that tell you not to take them on mountain bike trails. After our journey, I’d have reason to believe that on a flat dirt path, the Genesis V2100 would inconvenience you at the very most, not kill you.
But just like sushi, tattoos, and cosmetic surgery, you’ll regret cheaping out on a bike that you really intend on exploring the mountains with. If you want to fall in love with mountain biking, try renting something first, or save up $400 for an entry level hardtail. In the meantime you can hike these trails for free. With one of these you may be hiking anyway.
If you enjoyed this video, I have plenty of others on this topic. Let me know what you think below, and better yet give me some ideas of what to do with these next. Thanks for riding with me today, and I’ll see you next time.
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[@EliDjahn]

Labeled "Mountain bike" by Walmart Also Walmart: "Do not take on Mountains"

[@SoralTheSol]

It is built to look like a mountain bike, and function like one. Just, there is a very big difference in quality. I loved my walmart mountain bike when I was a kid cause I could gt it anywhere. Now I am an adult and about 100lbs heavier. They do not give that feeling anymore.

[@wolfendenracing2826]

E A 420thlike

[@elijahjamieson5354]

Elijah A they say on the frame that it is not intended for off roads use

[@stealthenforcer1907]

Mine tells my the forks are only for "leisure cross country"

[@shadowxxe]

@@stealthenforcer1907 most budget suntour forks will say that in my experience you can give can ride it down some pretty hard trails and it preforms fine

[@clydetheglide4198]

That bike sounds like two skeletons screwing on a tin roof

[@yobrethren]

6:03 XD Roflmfao

[@410kane]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jmessenger919]

Wildly accurate.

[@clydetheglide4198]

And using a bean can for a condom

[@blakekuhlmann2143]

how... how did you possibly miss out on this oportunity to say boning

[@Omlet221]

“With names like trouble, wipeout, ambush, and carnage, these bikes deliver what they promise”

[@CrayfishYAY]

Mine (which probably came from Walmart, I bought it used) is called the Mongoose Deception. I put over 2,000 miles on it & it's about to fall apart.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@CrayfishYAY Then it delivered what it promised: it's deceptively sturdy.

[@jerbear3915]

the M.B I bought from walmart is called " hyper bear mountain"

[@Technie87]

BUT, did you die?

[@BXKVSF]

420 likes

[@midoriya7451]

"Mom I want a trail bike" Mom: We have a trail bike at home The trail bike at home:

[@ender8995]

Lol

[@nolanbennett346]

Yes

[@carlossamhernandez9425]

Is not that bad.

[@nightfalcon605gaming2]

Death Machine, Like my 45 year old John Deere Bike

[@minekid4624]

@@nightfalcon605gaming2 my dad rides a 1978 ridged with crap brakes (idk the name XD) with 1989 stuntjumper wheels he doesn’t want to get a new one tho XD he says he’s likes it.

[@FatBikerVaibhav]

*it was painful to watch*

[@djcamp8721]

Can I get 25 subscribers

[@oliverkeeley4125]

DJ Hyde not by asking for them

[@djcamp8721]

Wheelie Keeley I'm sorry I didn't know you felt that way

[@hulimao]

I used to ride a Walmart mongoose! I will never go back to those bikes.

[@forsurenein4437]

hulimao me too

[@northshoreman]

I'd hate to be a kid that's saved up to buy one of these bikes thinking he's got something good, then watches this video.

[@diegocruz1240]

me...

[@Professor-8]

That was me and I got the exact same bike.

[@northshoreman]

@@Professor-8 Ride it til the wheels fall off!

[@squaller9254]

literally me but i just ride it on the road and in the yard not crazy off-roading like this lol

[@nitrogxt1840]

sounds just like me

[@RV-vb4jt]

Perhaps the funniest thing I have EVER heard during a bike review: "The bike is 1000x better without the chain"

[@lym155]

Lololololololol 😂😂😂

[@drdoominstien713]

It has become unchained, and is no longer bound by mortal limits

[@camilosixtino]

These really are very unfair reviews of WM bikes! Most of these buyers don't do enduro, plus if you just do conmute or sometimes gravel plus xc these bikes can last longer!

[@jonowens2811]

That's exactly what I did I saved up $489 dollars to buy a trek hardtail mtb with locking fork shocks and being 14 it's not that easy of a task coming up with that much money on your own. That bike is my pride and joy and have put it through a lot of crap these past few weeks but it still rides like I just bought it! And I'm going to have to thank you Seth. You are the main person who got me into mtb riding! I watched one video and said that's exactly what I want to do. So thank you very much!!

[@cjtac5077]

I agree whole heartedly. I am also 14 and have been mowing yards and saving for years. I bought some awesome used bikes for $400-$500 and it's so rewarding

[@jonowens2811]

CJ Tac oh heck yea man that's awesome!!!

[@ムース-r5d]

im 14 too lol, been riding on a cx and a beginner Giant mtb. both broke. i got myself a decent bmx as a substitute to practice skills on, until i save enough for an intermediate mtb(commencal meta ht am race). Awesome to see that im not the only newbie!

[@maliktube7374]

Same bro, I'm 14 too, and I got a very good bike that was on sale at like 60+% off. Feels great!

[@zachzedstar5113]

Bass Killer 628 Lol dude, I'm 14 but I have the Calibre Bossnut, $1200 bike because I passed GCSE maths early gl in getting a full sis one day, like you Seth inspired me to pursue mountain biking

[@OCLVIG]

My father is a retired Firefighter/EMT in Michigan. His department had multiple rescues out of one of our favorite popular MCMBA sanctioned trails known as "the most dangerous trails in the Midwest"; many of those were from people trying to ride Huffy and other department store bikes. Broken seat tubes, posts, frames, handlebars, etc. They should not be allowed to call these things "mountain bikes". When I first got into mountain biking, I had much success with a couple of bikes that were between $500 to $800 on sale. One was a Diamond Back and one was a Trek, both bought at actual bike shops. They were both ridden for years, and were even better with some upgrades. I didn't ride as hard back then so they served their purpose. Bottom-line, as a beginner, you can have some safe and reliable fun by spending the extra money. Of course, as your riding skills increase, be prepared to shell out the big bucks; it's definitely worth it!

[@dunnotck1]

Damn it don't people read the piece of paper that comes with the fucking bike? That sounds so dangerous. I have Huffy, I only ride it a short distance from home, I would never dream of taking it to a MTB trail.

[@gazebo9730]

dunnotck1 no they don’t especially not a couple years after they got it and they decide to go to a trail

[@dunnotck1]

@@gazebo9730 People are so dumb. You're lucky to have emergency services that are willing to go to the middle of nowhere to rescue people. In my country your on your own, no one is going to save you.

[@gazebo9730]

dunnotck1 what country? Also personally I have never been but I have no idea of any paper so I don’t think many others do either

[@dunnotck1]

@@gazebo9730 Mexico. A new bike always come with a small "owners manual" where they explain the bike is not meant to be used in mountain bike trails.

[@bryanseare2704]

This video. This is the one that started it all. This is how i found your channel seth. After watching your channel more, i got hooked. Your videos made me realize one of my passions i didnt even know existed. From then on it was just a snowball effect. Its the most unreal fun thing on the planet. Thank you for making this video seth. You have impacted my life by making this video.

[@murlhaggard]

“With names like ‘Trouble,‘ ‘Wipeout,’ and ‘Carnage,’ these bikes deliver what they promise.” (STILL favourite vid, THANKS Seth! 👍

[@b.n.c.v5792]

But some not so much

[@shadowxxe]

2:42 You know what the suspension feels like its doing something.......seconds later *Oh god Egh-Gin-g-Ove-r-the-OH GAWD-Ohw oh man*

[@davidholderbach]

LMAO

[@christianmullins7606]

Haha

[@flyingfish555]

Those are the same sounds I make when I ride my ridgid fat bike down chunky stuff with higher tire pressure, haha.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Oh, it's doing something, rattling his spine out of alignment haha.

[@fry6804]

Dude the whole video is moaning

[@Andernol]

"What is that SOUND?!" I can hear the terror

[@wailfaridi2070]

*Doesn't stop to check what it is and continues*

[@Durwood71]

@@wailfaridi2070 That's what baffled me. When your bike sounds like that, you absolutely need to stop and see what it is, especially on a trail like that. You're just risking your life otherwise.

[@OGmolton1]

When you said "we only have one thing left to do" I was hoping it cut to yall trying to return those bikes to walmart

[@bg85601]

Ha ha

[@andreykashin1729]

Same here

[@mihneacireasa4613]

Reminds me of a jackass video where knoxvile took a rental car to a demolition derby and then returned it on a flatbed

[@snat6299]

Yes that would have been awesome👍

[@tbrowniscool]

Nobody is mentioning how amazing the stabilisation of the footage was! Fucking amazing gave the real sense of the vibration hell.

[@blkjax]

Seriously...how does one do that? I'm impressed!

[@calebsmtb440]

It's a gimble

[@svelle37]

Gimbal and chest mount I'd guess.

[@rizkiyoist]

I wish we have suspensions as good as camera gimbals.

[@joshuarobinson2676]

Probably right - and/or image stabilization in post-production. But honestly, I attribute most of it to a rock steady riding skills. To keep head and chest stable when all hell is breaking loose is solid riding. Because honestly, his eyeballs would have fallen out otherwise, and he would have at some point donated blood to the trail. Solid performance! Laughed my ass off. Reminds me of days before disc brakes.

[@IngoVogelmann]

Walmart page: "If you want to enjoy superior comfort while riding on hills, then you might have to get the 26-inch Genesis V2100 dual-suspension bike. Featuring a dual-suspension frame, this men's Genesis bicycle is very hill-friendly, and offers you a smooth riding experience even on rough terrain." LOL!

[@yoyoflamingo5966]

Ingo Vogelmann Exactly bro, now I have a trek marlin 6 2020, my old Walmart bike with solid front suspension would not be able to handle this trail but my new bike would

[@andrewc9524]

Hahahhahaha

[@thesounddisciple9213]

Lets be completely fair, its obvious that these bikes were not made for anything like this and this challenge was pretty much a destined breakdown, but cheap bikes aren't always bad, i bought a £20 second hand mtb with fork suspension and 3x6 gears, it has never broken down, granted ive only gone on light trails but still...

[@rowerwet]

Grassy hills...

[@peach6405]

I liked the front facing "rear" sticker on one of the forks lmao

[@thelazywhitedog6147]

“What can those bikes do that these bikes couldn’t”. -live seth. Those bikes could live.

[@da1nonlydoron779]

After watching so many of your videos, one of my favorite aspects to your approach is your sensitivity to cost/pricing. You seem successful in your KZbin career and financially stable in life. So the fact that you are able to understand and relate to those on a budget, or even on a “major budget”, just makes your videos much more intriguing and relatable. To me, that means you know the meaning of “hard times”. And your success is well earned and far more deserved and I’m truly happy for you in your achievements. I’m new to the sport and I don’t even own a bike yet. But I am obsessed with mountain biking and trail riding ever since joining my friend who took me on a few trips. I am patiently awaiting the day I will own a mountain bike and am strategically planning its manifestation. Thank you, Seth, for everything you do for the biking community! You inspired me tremendously!

[@boyobane1590]

Bikes like this is why as a kid I thought cycling was super difficult and I couldn't imagine how people can go more than 1-2 miles at a time.

[@gamer-xs4fv]

Even a $400 entry level non-walmart bike might be hard pressed on those trails...

[@DavidEGreeneJr]

Mine was a $500 walmart mongoose. front end exploded on the first trail....lol

[@LynnHarrod]

@@DavidEGreeneJr $500 for a Walmart bike???

[@DavidEGreeneJr]

@@LynnHarrod yup XR750 I still own the frame. Has a FOX rear end spring(aftemarket)

[@vedanttoke20]

Dude I have a 550$ bike and I have front flipped it and crashed but it didn't turn into shit. I have almost ridden 1000-2000 km in 6 months and I have smashed through rock gardens hit jumps and drops but it survived and it's still working well

[@jacobsebastien3910]

GT agressor pro can handle it

[@John-bb5ty]

"with names like Trouble, Whipeout, Ambush, and Carnage, these bikes deliver what they promise" Im fookin rollin m8 ahahaha

[@louimcgee6146]

yeah that is so true

[@kristianfennell5191]

then the shots of the bars not on right and a sticker saying rear on the front forks hahaha

[@lucasb.3236]

John same lol

[@OugaBoogaShockwave]

LMFAO, i was going to post the same thing !

[@askbeforeplaying2983]

i just now got that quote

[@lydiamourningstar2028]

What he said about the bottom bracket is absolutely spot on. I got this bike a few years ago as just a cheap commuter bike and the bottom bracket and crank set went out on me during a ride after like 6 months 😅🤣

[@caffeinepowered3957]

Same. I have a cheap BCA from WM and the BB ate itself. $20 Shimano UN300 and it's just fine(ish) again!

[@brianritchie8089]

I think he should buy a WallMart bmx and see how it Lasts at a skate park like so Seth can see

[@foxman105]

I wouldn't recommend it if you like your teeth.

[@MOUNTAINOUS]

i will be doing that this fall. i am 44 and i make bmx videos. i do old school flatland like in my featured video on my page called rad bmx tribute. i fly home to illinois 2 times a year and i dont have a bike there. so this fall i am buying a mongoose 720 and i will be doing some bmx videos on it. i only go home 2 times a year. but i fly 2000 miles. so i want to buy a bike to leave there so i can ride with my old bmx buddy who still rides and lives there. it will stay at my moms house. i will only ride it a few times a year. so i dont need a super nice one. but i am curious to see what one can do if it is tightened good. wheels trued good. and brakes adjusted good and cables lubed i look forward to putting one through the test.

[@SensoryAlterations]

Just wear a full face, you'll be 'right

[@timmkaufmamm]

Brian Ritchie adam lz did that and the thing which holds the handle bar broke after one bunny hop xD

[@sawii1482]

Sir cornflakes it call stem

[@Magic_crew]

You should try and return them

[@digitalrailroader]

MAGIC CREW and as the Head Bike Assembler at my local Walmart, Seth's V2100 would be marked down to zero, harvested for any salvageable parts, and get a one way ticket to the trash compactor; when he destroyed the drivetrain, it went from repairable to garbage in an instant. Alex's bike would probably be inspected, any issues would be corrected, the bike marked down 25%, and put right back on the rack.

[@squankey]

Yes, my thought too. but you must record it

[@neoskater420]

digitalrailroader walmart definitely wouldnt accept it back. Can still repair the deraileur and new hanger though as long as the frame is good replace everything with better components. A new deraileur will be 1,000 times better even a cheapo shimano acera deraileur will work better haha.

[@digitalrailroader]

Neoskater420 true; that should be the next step for Seth's V2100; upgrade everything that can be upgraded on that bike, then compare it to a proper name brand Enduro bike. Even better would be a three way comparison between the hacked V2100, the stock V2100, and the name brand enduro bike.

[@benjaminkoenig759]

Neoskater420 There's a guy who does bmx videos who bent a taco'd wheel kinda back and returned it under the explaination of brake problems. He did this twice

[@MartzDnB]

*This is what I have to ride with everyday... it makes me feel like im not as bad as I thought I was, its just my bike*

[@darius2640]

you know you buying quality shit when it says it's a MOUNTAIN-BIKE and then on same label in smaller font there are warnings that tell you NOT to take them on mountain bike trails"

[@MrVibriocholerae]

😂

[@PACKERMAN2077]

it's a very unnerving feeling when you see BMX *_style_* or mountain bike *_style_* on the sku shelf tag somewhere, would you buy a car that had seatbelt _style_ straps or airbag _style_ steering wheels? 😅😅😅

[@raczzgabor]

But people do not necessarily read the label, or they really think that if it looks like, then it is.

[@lobserve1]

These are cheap bikes that looks like a mountain bikes but are made for casual riding. I'm willing to bet 99% of people who buy them understand this. No serious rider would buy one.

[@PACKERMAN2077]

lobserve1 99% of people who by bikes from Walmart aren't doing serious trail riding in the first place just going to the mall... at 2mph

[@titusmadeley202]

this video is giving me flash backs

[@themtbguy916]

I laughed every time Seth’s fork bottomed out. That noise.

[@voldomart16]

as a walmart assebler i wouldnt trust any bike from walmart. I can assemble them perfectly but they arent good quality bikes

[@monkeyjuju7441]

Tim Horan really? Seems to be the contrary in my experience. You can find a perfectly capable bike from Walmart so long as you don't let the inexperienced fool that doesn't even know spokes can be adjusted much less how to true a wheel or set a derailleur put it together for you. The other problem is simply misplaced expectations. People think they can skip buying a $6000 bike by getting a $99 one, which is simply ridiculous. If you're going to try doing what in the end will even break parts on a few thousand dollar bike, obviously you're going to break a $100 one, that's common sense in my opinion. the difference there is you could literally break and replace 60 Walmart bikes for the price of that one $6000 bike which will cost more than a couple Walmart bikes just to replace something when it breaks. On the other side, customers expect that the random schmuck that built their bike oiled and greased everything (guarantee they didn't), made sure everything was tight, made sure the wheels were true, made sure the cassette and derailleur was engaging all the gears without popping the chain, brakes were good, etc, when almost always half, if not all of that stuff isn't done which is going to lead to parts failing (because they're not installed right to begin with) and people blaming the bike, not the 16 year old that built the bike half-assed, or the vendor too cheap to pay a proper bike mechanic to at least vet the bikes before putting them on the floor.

[@digitalrailroader]

Tim Horan not necessarily; I’m a fellow Walmart Assembler, and I see the quality of the bikes we get in 3 distinctive tiers: Pacific Cycle And Huffy are the best engineered, Dynacraft is middle of the road, and Kent International is the sh!t tier of bikes with the worst quality.

[@digitalrailroader]

Chris Carr well I’m proud to say that I actually put in the effort to make the bikes Walmart sells the best they can be for the price; and I actually attribute my success to having a copy of the Park Tool BBB-2 in my work area.

[@monkeyjuju7441]

digitalrailroader sorry, I didn't mean for my comment to come off as a blanket statement. I don't doubt at all that some of the Walmart bike assemblers know what they're doing, hell, based on the amount of Walmart stores there's undoubtedly at least a few proper bike mechanics that assemble their bikes part time, but unless you're lucky to have one of said people assembling the bikes at your store(and even if you are)I still stand by everything in my original comment, especially because even if the assembler is a local bike shop mechanic chances are they are being pushed to assemble as many bikes as possible at the big box retailer, so they can't be as methodical as they would be at their shop where they can take their time, plus most things are prassembled at the factory so they're not going to open up the bottom bracket to check for lube or anything like that. On the other hand, I'm also sure some bikes at big box stores are trash from the start and can't be saved no matter who assembles them, but in my experience if you shop around and take the time to check and fix everything prior to your first ride you should end up with a pretty damn good bike for the price

[@SailingFrolic]

Chris Carr I actually have a Genesis just like in the video. Pretty great bike, thanks to a talented assembler who made my local bike shop look like trash. (Brandon Bike & Mower World, most of their selection are overpriced beginner diamondback hardtails with cobwebs hanging from them 😂) Upon buying the bike, I rode it 3 miles to my apartment. Dialed in the gears, lubed, dialed in brakes, dialed tire pressure, and I still ride it to this day. It's lasted me a couple months of daily 20 mile rides and several trail rides. The Genesis is the best low-budget bike at the best value, AS LONG AS IT'S PROPERLY ASSEMBLED AND DIALED. However, seeing as how I'm very serious about riding and I don't just need fun out of my bike, but now precision and speed, I am upgrading everything on the bike slowly but surely. I'm going for 180mm hydraulic brakes front and rear with some better levers, 27.5" tubeless setup tires (probably Maxxis), 100mm travel Rockshox forks, 165mm Rear Air Shock made by DNM, SRAM Eagle GX crankset derailleur and cassette, better quality Stem (not sure which), aluminum handlebars (original are steel), WTB saddle, and a dropper post. Oh and of course, I'm swapping out those terrible rims. All in all, it should be around $600 but I should end up with a $1400 bike. Which, considering is custom built, will definitely get the attention of fellow riders, sponsors, and people who appreciate things done right.

[@thomasalvarado9048]

I just bought one, realized the front "suspension" is only springs, I'm in trouble 🤣

[@Reach3DPrinters]

I just bought one too... $174 tho.

[@Fred_the_1996]

@@michaelp2798 you're screwed then...

[@masteryoda2772]

Its better then nothing though, my brother and i go for a ride in the woods very often and he doesn't Even have front suspension. He can't complain thought he bought it for 80 bucks

[@Destin65]

Many more professional mountain bikes in the 500-800 dollar range also use springs. Matter of fact, was just looking at a $300 rear suspension shock that uses an internal spring with a small charge of air to set the sag height.

[@tyfleming5216]

Me: Hey, I think I used to have a bike like that! Me a few seconds later: Oh wait, that’s not good

[@416to212]

You bought the bikes from Walmart then rode them straight off the rack. Id be interested to know what your results would be like if you brought them back to your shop for a full tune and lube before you rode the trails. I think a lot has to do with assembly more so than the quality of the parts.

[@RigginTheRod010]

416to212 right I have this same bike and had to tune it before I left.... I don't trust Walmart employees

[@Bonsse88]

Throws the bikes in the back of the truck - price tags and all - and takes it straight downhill. Probably didn't even check the tire pressures.

[@digitalrailroader]

RigginTheRod010 so essentially, you don't trust my work; because I'm the Head Assembler at my local Walmart, and I actually take my assembly work on bikes VERY seriously. In the words of my manager the bikes that leave my assembly area are "Perfect" and very few bikes are returned from assembly defects; it's when people abuse bikes or as Seth demonstrates in this video push them beyond their design limits is how people and property get damaged.

[@eviltyres60]

He already did it in another video, the bike was maimed

[@LyingPrauses]

Idk about "Walmart" but I believe most authentic bike shops don't even lube the chain. Maybe thats why the derailluer ate itself

[@zijianhuang4903]

I have this bike Lol Seth please mod the bike up.

[@coolxgamer1591]

Asian PuP same lol

[@Geexter007]

Asian PuP - yes! Mod! it would be a sleeper bike. transfer the cheap fork decals to an air fork, label a decent derailleur as Tourney, or whatever is really cheap, etc.

[@bikesandcoff3e]

The first mod would be throwing that piece of shit away! Then, go to your local bike shop to get a decent bike for $500.

[@djangomarine6658]

I just got this bike. lol I guess if I don't go too fast I'll be ok?

[@ThatOneEF]

Lmao me too

[@merikano2985]

I loved my mountain bike and wanted so badly to do this kind of biking when I was younger - still do. Even bought an entry level for $300 bucks, a Mongoose Tapanga (this was the 1990s so everything was a bit cheaper back then). Hockey, martial arts, whitewater - I lived for fast pace adrenaline rushes. Was a lifeguard and EMT and wanted to learn scuba, skydiving... sensing a theme yet? Mountain biking was put on the backburner for a while but I knew it was only a matter of time I'd start it up again! Which of course is when life throws you something unexpected, for me it was epilepsy. A diagnosis like epilepsy changes you. It wasn't terminal - I'm not about to die from it, but it was crippling to the point of that life I lived for was gone. Imagine that. Take four of the top five things you love most and learn that because of this invisible thing inside of you, all of those things you love are gone. Savor what you have in the here and now and don't do what I did and put dreams on hold. If the only thing holding you back from racing down a mountain trail is 400 bucks, save up and when you get the chance take it. Because life is a ticking clock and none us know when ours will run out. And for those out there who have had their life changed in an instant? There will be dark periods of frustration and depression - but you can work through it. Even though the life you had and loved is gone, that doesn't mean all is lost. Deep down inside you are still the same person you always have been. Keep fighting and still believe in you. Even if it's a matter of waking up in the morning and telling the world to go screw itself. You're still here. I'm still here. And now I'm going to cook up some eggs and mix in some hot sauce. Keep riding brothers!

[@R0adx]

Seth can you please make a video of upgrading this bike's important parts to make it more enjoyable?

[@CanIHasThisName]

There's nothing on the bike to upgrade. It's built from leftovers and discards mostly. That's including the frame. You don't buy a bike like this for future upgrades. You're literally better off buying an ancient old bike for the same money. Maybe it won't have that shiny paint, but it's lifespan serves as a testament to it's quality.

[@RigginTheRod010]

MTB Rider of Justice This is a very tough bike. I've taken it on very rough terrain and it has held up. It just needs a good set of brakes

[@fernandoroman6494]

You know, I used to excuse people over the whole "people can only afford so much" but truth is, Craigslist will easily offer used bikes at the same (or lower) price as some of this walmart bikes. They'll have better parts and components and even if they need work done on them, bike shop mechanics will happily do it as oppose to grudgingly (if at all). I just bought my first ever MTB 2 weeks ago, early 2000's cannondale F300 for $100! cheaper than walmart bikes and way more reliable. Sure it isnt high end but at least it wont implode in the trails.

[@BAK87]

This is a BAD joke

[@guillermosempron5776]

Sounds like you live in a rich country and you have money to trash... I have an "ordinary" bike like this and I spend a couple of bills in better equipment. And works really nice. You have a car and you walk with the bike at your side... I understand more now. I ride the bike in all terrains. I go up the terrain too... There is no bad bike. There is bad bikers. Sorry for my terrible english.

[@Gunt4sh]

Who else came back nearly 3 years later whilst in isolation?

[@Fred_the_1996]

No

[@RedWolfVids]

Yes, UK here

[@Mp57navy]

Yes. I needed something to laugh at. Can't wait to pump up my tires and hit the trails...

[@uniqueusernane8204]

Me

[@Ramon-bd1ii]

Ya

[@moonzestate]

About 5 years ago, I had bought a used but in perfect condition 21 speed full-suspension bike with steel frame, Sram Grip Shifters and Shimano Tourney derailleurs for 100$. I regularly change Shimano Megarange sprocket + chain once a year (15$), and I'm riding mountain bike trails almost every day and still very happy with it. :-)

[@lyndableasdale3777]

lol, I had never heard that much grunting on any other KZbin video.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Any more grunting and that video might have had to go on pornhub haha

[@youcantgain100ksubscribers5]

have u ever hear the guy who traveling in the ocean with a bubble?

[@RT-if2ij]

I’ve watched a hundred videos of people going down difficult and dangerous trails on 3000/5000 £$ bikes. Always wondered how a budget bike would hold up. Really enjoyed this video 👍

[@Livereater]

Let's be honest... the neighborhood kid is buying these affordable Walmart bikes to jump a few curbs... if you're a serious mtn biker, you're purchasing a higher end bike.

[@DFX2KX]

Them, commuters who like to take shortcuts through some scenic gravel trails, and folks who's alternative is walking. I'm in groups two and three. My Nighthawk handles the shortcut trail I take just fine, even with road tires on it. Okay, well, it's fork is a bit out of whack, and the Derailleur set sucks, but it's still in one piece after 360ish miles.... It owes me nothing.

[@t_williamson]

DFX2KX I just bought a Huffy Nighthawk about a week ago and so far it's holding up great!

[@DFX2KX]

Just keep an eye on the derailleurs and try and keep the curb hopping to a minimum as the fork isn't the greatest and it should last you for a pretty good while. There are places to mount a proper frame-mounted rack on the bottom (you'll have to get creative with the upper mounts, I use a second seat clamp with spots for those). If you see paint coming off the rear rim, that's normal, as it uses a V-brake on the rear. Might cost half as much as the bike, but a trip down to the local bike-shop for a tune will be night-and-day. My Nighthawk also does better with street tires on it.

[@jaydenzerfoss4650]

...... I bought a 5$ vintage banana seat bike and another 1$ and 10 cents pn bolts and nuts.....and a tube from another vintage banana seat bike and I ended up putting some really old GT three spoke rims on that and they...kinda look good

[@ItsGoingDown69]

Some just need a bike to get to work

[@raydogg2821]

I bought my 29 inch genesis incline mountain bike and greased all my wheel bearings lubed the chain and sprockets etc. Preventative maintenance is the key to having anything you own to last a lifetime. Get educated on preventative maintenance procedures. You'll come out a lot better with anything you buy. It works for meeeeeeeeee!!!!!👍💯

[@man_ofthe_year6568]

Always double check your in store bikes they are famous for not putting on grease or tightening parts

[@walterjagielski8017]

They don't make any adjustments to the derailleur when you buy em at Walmart or Target or wherever. My bet is your low limit screw was too loose. I'd love to see this video again after you guys have made adjustments so the bike works properly. Great video though!

[@Moct3zoom]

Pretty much all I heard was "on my other bike", immediately remembered Tony Stark telling Peter Parker, if you're nothing without the suit, that you were nothing to begin with.

[@rohankurani4974]

RIP Tony Stark 😞

[@AnonymousMe115]

You do realize literally the whole point of the video is to critique the bike right?

[@extrachromosome7114]

Yeah... How ‘bout you ride the shit bike next time and then talk.

[@extrachromosome7114]

Also a bit unfair to be comparing mountain bikes to superhero.

[@MrSmithees]

Peter Parker said “he’s nothing without the suit” because he relied on it to do a specific task. Seth didn’t rely on the “suit” to do the job. It was the perfect tool to for him to do the job. This video proved it. Seth can still use the walmart bike if he’s doing anything else like commuting. Can’t defeat Thanos with a walmart bike bruh.

[@MrJasenstewart97]

I love how sketched out by these bikes they were through the ride and they're still giggling like kids throughout the ride lol their vibe is what I strive to have

[@amermeleitor]

That was like a suicide attempt

[@charliexerxes]

I've watched this vid 3 times and it gets better every time

[@nashcrash741]

I learned how to ride mountain bike trails on a department store bike lol. While they may not be quite as extreme as the trails seen in this video, I can safely say mine has taken a beating but is still working. It was actually a great experience learning how to fix different issues on my bike as they presented themselves

[@aestheticcruise8807]

nashcrash741 same here. For me I learned to ride on dirt jump tracks with a full suspension department store bike. The bastard actually held up pretty well. The only issues I had after were loose handlebars (forgot to tighten them) never buckled any rims or exploded the front suspension. The fork was actually a half decent fork which happened to be a suntour :/

[@matthewabt9348]

yeah walmart bikes are usable for non aggressive riding and if you are ok with maintenance they can be fun to wrench on

[@SailingFrolic]

Same.

[@coreymarks1454]

Yes, I purchased have a Genesis V 2900 alloyed 20 inch frame 29er tires from Walmart for $179.99 and it's awesome for the streets not for the mountains.

[@devonzastre319]

This video has such a simple yet genius concept.

[@codemonkeytv526]

This is like watching one of those knife infomercials where the actor tries to cut the bread by squishing it and holding the knife upside down.

[@Whaiesh3827]

I was cringing sooo hard

[@Kuchen3]

5:38 New Minecraft sound effects when you get hit.

[@markmeador1137]

I bought one of these bikes to have fun on, I’m 70. 50 years ago I had a three speed English Racer, you had trouble riding on a poorly paved street. These mountain bikes are new to me and they fit me fine. I would have killed myself in the first 50 feet doing the ride you did. I enjoy going to the National Forest and riding their trails. I may not be in your geographic but hopefully I will learn something from you young guys.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Yay another cheap vs expensive video I love these

[@CasaDelMandar]

haha damnit when he said "we only got one thing left to do", I was hoping they were going to return the bikes XD

[@Durwood71]

I know Walmart has a reputation for accepting anything as a return, but I think a mountain bike that was beat to hell would strain that policy.

[@charlesharper9546]

This fellow has never ridden a 1987 Rock Hopper with canti brakes and even worse tires. I remember how your hands would literally get pounded off the handlebar and tire slips were the norm. You got beat up without even crashing. And, yes, sore arms and hands from braking was the norm after every ride. Even so, we loved it. V-Brakes, Panaracer Smoke skinwall tires, bar ends and 50mm front suspension forks a few years later were a revolution.

[@EcoMouseChannel]

My Santa Cruz Superlight bike was stolen 3 years ago. I found it for sale on Craigslist from some tweaker, so I gladly paid the $400 he was asking for. So the very first thing I did was strip off the Santa Cruz decals, and promptly installed WalMart as the branding. Thanks to channels like this that show how shitty these bikes are, I can rest assured that no one will steal my "WalMart" bike ever again!

[@reecewilkinson5093]

Eco Mouse why did you pay for your own bike

[@namelessmusik4345]

Because a Santa Cruz is wirth it !?! You think he would or could or would like to buy such a bike again and sepnding k of money on a new bike if he can get his old one for 400 ^^ And not paying would riskt the thief to hide

[@reecewilkinson5093]

Nameless Musik but I feel like you could of just got it back by either telling the police or getting some mates to go with you and take it back

[@namelessmusik4345]

reece wilkinson yea but if it's send by a Post man you would habe no chance

[@reecewilkinson5093]

Nameless Musik oh my bad I thought you went to see the bike and brought it there and then. Still would of got the police at least involved

[@halfgeek1394]

This would be cool to revisit, Top Gear style. Alex, Brian, and you all choose a different big box bike to compete in a series of Challenges. Guest starring Eric Porter as the Stig's mountain bike cousin.

[@burmesebeef]

love these type of challenges! More like this please

[@edisonkrasniqi9199]

burmesebeef i bet they dont love these types of challenges habaha its just like suicide 😂😂

[@japopo5533]

You should make a video of you guys trying to return the bikes to Wal-Mart and see if they would actually take it back

[@placesaroundus]

Japopo +1

[@boabloxflamingo5056]

Japopo +117372838373638383

[@marshallferron]

They would have and then put it right back on the shelf to sell again. They might mark the one with the broken derailler down by 10-20%.

[@digitalrailroader]

marshallferron as the bike Assembler for my Walmart, I can say with confidence that Seth’s V2100 is compactor food. I have a list of things that I can and cannot fix on a bicycle and The derailleur is a component that I cannot fix.

[@N.I.C.K.0.3]

8:27 close your eyes and hear the sound 😌

[@YourmomshouseEDP]

Bruh 😂

[@Randombikekid]

Pervert

[@teddygibson3997]

It would be cool to see a 'behind the scenes vlog' of a video like this

[@jonathanfague8852]

My first MTB was a Honda sold by TOYS-R-US. The trails I rode on it were nowhere close to this tough, but still the story was the same. Everything fell off the bike, including the crank arm. Yes, it was a piece of junk that quickly found its way to our local landfill. However, it did introduce me to the trails and for that I will be forever grateful.

[@rickrobinson8417]

A comparo with these bikes and something like an entry level hybrid on a flat dirt road would be cool to see

[@jakegarrett8109]

denny diablo road bike would win. I'm not in great shape, but I was averaging 18 mph on gravel roads recently. If they were dirt and not too bad, it would be even faster. Doing the same road with an almost identical Walmart MTB bike, I don't think I was doing half that speed. The suspension just eats away your power. My road bike: Aluminum Bianchi 23mm coyote tires ($7 each, but insanely good off road even though they are sub 1 inch wide)

[@adamgarey6742]

You should take a Walmart bike and tear it down to just the frame. Then upgrade all the parts. New brakes, forks stuff like that.

[@jakegarrett8109]

Adam Garvey The frames are freakishly heavy. I think my entire road bike weighs the same as just part of the frame on this Genesis (I have this bike too). I thought about plasma cutting holes into it to shed a couple pounds, but then I thought of safety... It's powered by a chainsaw engine, so I'm already pushing my luck with it, otherwise I would lighten it.

[@chipconstant]

Adam Garvey yeah you can get a good frame for around $400 and go from there

[@moorabinda]

Everyone needs a mate like Alex. Good times fellas. 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@rosco0101]

Rather than removing the chain why not just shorten the chain and make it a fixed-gear bike? Back in the 90s my buddy smashed his derailleur on a rock so we removed it, shortened the chain and he was able to ride home with one gear.

[@ronuronu814]

ItinerantOne you don't even need to do that, just yank the extension to the extreme and put back the chain. It will adjust to whatever gear it can. This will do, without the hassle of removing links from chain.

[@whosoever3436]

You guys still alive after riding those? You guys really have some skills😂😂😂

[@yujin4142]

Wait what you have to spend 6000 dollars on a bicycle !? And i thought a 200 dollar bike was expensive .

[@goddam2263]

500 would be enough

[@DoWorkChopper]

How did you get here? Why?

[@sdqsdq6274]

6k ,rather get a dirt bike

[@Cloudrak]

Really.

[@xripideffectsxx5162]

Well I been on both, I prefer riding mountain bike more because there more place to ride in the area I live

[@aiden81]

6:44 I've had the same exact thing happen to my first bike. It was a $100 one from Kmart so I wasn't surprised. What happened was when you changed a gear, your deralier scraped on the rim, got caught, and cause it's a cheap deralier got sucked up into the rim.

[@alexanderm7270]

"$400 for an entry level hard tail." I see the Sync'r and overdrive called beginner bikes online, but they're $1600+ for me.

[@kirwitch8236]

That’s funny because I have an entry level hardtail for exactly $400

[@noyd9849]

lol it shouldnt cost that much. My bike voodoo Bantu was 450 and is crazy good. The best entry level mountain bike for value is voodoo bizango

[@aaronp9835]

Het. TREK Marlin 7. $700 and you have a super solid bike and wont have to worry about cheap bullshit.

[@ritwikreddy5670]

For 1600, you can get a motorbike for your kid.

[@aaronp9835]

Ritwik Reddy i already got 2 motorbikes. But a bicycle is a different ball game

[@hanestshirtsarecool]

4:44 Absolutely H.I.L.A.R.I.O.U.S!!!! It sounds like your riding a pallet jack at 9:18

[@Tonyx.yt.]

but with some gravel stuck on the wheels

[@steelonius]

Wow! Good call. That is the sound for sure.

[@lovelessissimo]

I can't stop laughing at this.

[@jiayouchinese]

Seth: I braved a mountain trail without cell phone reception. Ancient Beringian: Hold my beer.

[@averyarredondo1119]

this is just one of those seth videos you go back and watch every now and then.. like the mongoose in the trees or the white line video

[@user-tm1qc9kf2h]

Dude, people that go get a Walmart bike don't use it as a downhill mtb, or a climbing bike. Its not really cost effective getting a $1500 bike if all you are going to do is laps around your block 1 to 2 times a week, like most of the kids that buy these bikes use it for.

[@Nathan-qh6lp]

He didn’t say that they are for downhill it’s just a video for entertainment ‘Dude’.

[@karvast5726]

And they are totally okay for that purpose,they just wanted to test it's limits and they seemed to have reached it

[@Billy_Darley]

i got a 2005 trek bruiser for free. changing out the seat, the grips, and adding disk brakes soon. if the front forks dont hold up to what little ill be doing with the bike than ill upgrade that too. seen some nice ones on ebay.

[@Billy_Darley]

methylenedioxymethamphetamine well its all the more I feel like doing with any bike. Going to be riding some flat bike paths later today. Its leisurely and easy on my legs. I don't have the mountain bike legs I used to have.

[@Billy_Darley]

methylenedioxymethamphetamine for somebody like me a Wal-Mart bike is good enough.

[@keken_25_pr48]

Last Sunday 7/10/22 I wake up telling my self go get you a Bike! it been a while since last time and I know you love it! But never with Walmart in mind lol so I bought a Marlin 6 (Small) 2021 and go for a flat trail Same Day! And Hey ! It's just the Beginning! Thanks for the Variety of content! Awesome!

[@bradgriffith6234]

This video was hilarious dude!!!! Next time when someone asked why I spent $3k on a Santa Cruz I will redirect them to this video! 🙏

[@benjacobs2682]

How about a upgrade to show what these frames could do or not do with with better components?

[@YeetxBoi]

Cucky Betamore make em fit lmao

[@SailingFrolic]

Cucky Betamore actually. They would. The Genesis is pre-designed for upgrade adaptability. 165mm rear shock (most common shock size). 27.5" wheels. There's adapters for the rear brakes to convert to disc. Almost everything in the bike has common measurements used by most manufacturers to allow improvements. The Genesis V2100 is especially famous among department store bikes specifically for this reason. Research before you comment, man. Saves you trouble.

[@SailingFrolic]

Ben Jacobs I'm on it. Soon as I get to making some money I will do a build video on my Genesis V2100. There's a few online you can find that have been upgraded and they are SICK.

[@torpedo996]

One day my Sc 1800 from Canadian Tire will be upgraded.

[@Sarlasin]

I think i watched this vid about 6 to 7 times now, and I think its my favourite one period! I could watch him suffer all day xD

[@cutty02]

The dumb part of these comparison is that people were riding much shitter bikes than these in the 80s and 90s and could still have fun and even be pros. Hell in the 80s and 90s 6061 aluminum frames were like carbon fiber is today.

[@pepito_white]

Yup, actually bikes are a fucking scam for profit

[@handyman7297]

Yes today people love to spend money as if they were sponsored..

[@jgutie4377]

my buddy did the same thing last week, bought the 150 dollar bike from walmart and rode off a cliff due to brake failure....

[@tuneese2561]

Yuck Foutube nah he somehow gonna be alive. Dat bisch long gone

[@impactevilgaming6796]

Danny Blues I'm dead

[@hansolo4854]

well im already dead and nobody care...

[@mcearl8073]

Did he have shoes on when he landed?

[@CrashGordonAdventures]

You know the rules, Pics/Video or it didn't happen

[@soundspire360]

The bottom bracket creaking after you just bought it is icing on the Walmart cake

[@samadams4105]

Here's the thing: You can spend $6,000 for a mountain bike and still replace occasional parts savaged by riding way too fast down a mountain, or you can spend $6,000 to buy 40 Walmart bikes and stop worrying about reliability.

[@lockbreaker7961]

Or buy a dirt bike or a 4 wheeler or any other better form of transport for that much

[@tylergarza8695]

@@lockbreaker7961 Get out of here.

[@ryann8680]

@@lockbreaker7961 amen, motors make it more fun

[@tylergarza8695]

@@CelestialGospel Dude it was a joke. how was it that the only thing you took from that was that wal mart bikes are reliable, and that's not even a thing he said?

[@tylergarza8695]

@@CelestialGospel "stop worrying about reliability" and then you wrote "reliability is not something you have to worry about, it's not even there" That was the entire joke and you just explained it

[@MrJohnDoughnut2]

Yiiioooo... down in NC and STILL drops a Canadian Tire reference on us.. 😃🍁

[@Blaketarded]

"we set off with our new bikes in tow" i can just imagine those two bikes tied to your truck bouncing and scraping on the road

[@steffanooooo]

Well I guess “ The Lower the price the higher the morality”

[@simoncook1885]

Higher the mortality

[@jasonpearson1555]

It works both ways actually😂

[@Toaster776]

good point

[@peterpemrich6962]

I've had my v2100 since 2012. Still my favorite bike. Replaced the wheels with some "giant" wheels, aluminum pedals, Schwinn gear system twice (cause I destroyed the others in 2 accidents) and the frame is holding up great. Best bike ever.

[@ratana_music]

Can u link ur wheels? Ive been wanting to get bigger ones for mines but not sure if itll fit

[@Kcducttaper1]

LOL. I love Alex's sympathy at 6:58!

[@CertifiedStepper]

Should of tightened and double checked everything before going lol alot of these store bikes are always assembled by regular people and carelessly and always assemble them losely

[@joethepopoful]

I'm sure they probably did some sort of check off camera

[@anthonyellis4915]

I spent half an hour talking to Walmart assembler before buying a hardtail. He was such a nice guy. But that bicycle was assembled so poorly. Had to go over EVERYTHING. SN: Always check the rims for left over scrap metal from the factory. Found slivers of super sharp strips of metal around the tire valve.

[@TSoneonetwo]

usually assembled using airtools, and the assemblers are paid per unit. so, the incentive and focus is on speed of assembly. not to mention that the metal is all pot metal, and every other component is the cheapest material available. even a proper set up will only do so much.

[@peterlively4009]

Doesn’t matter how much you tighten the bolts on a POS. It is still a POS. Just a couple indicators: 1. Pedalling on level ground should never fully compress your suspension. 2. Hands cramping from trying to apply non-existent brakes

[@swedishdagger8410]

SШIҒT_ҜILLΣR-HD no, they just don’t know how to

[@steve3370]

Get a cheaper bike with a good frame and put some parts into it..... that's the way to go if you dont have money to throw around.

[@SailingFrolic]

Suthy that's what I plan to do on my Genesis V2100

[@409nh8]

The Real Dro The 1.1 get Suntour raison fork, Shimano deore group set. BSA bottom bracket will fit. Deore brakes. To go more than 9 speed you will need new wheels with a freehub body. 2x9 is the way to go as 9 speed freewheels are available on eBay.

[@SailingFrolic]

Bflutz 625 Thank you so much for the suggestions. The Deore looks like exactly what I'm looking for! What gearing should I get the crankset in?

[@409nh8]

The Real Dro The 1.1 depends on what you Ride and your fitness. I would say 26t small dog is good starting point for 26" wheels for an average. My bike is 27.5 with 24t small ring and 36t cassette. Personally I find it is much easier of a gear than I use so when I go 1x11 I'm going for 36t ring and 11-48 cassette. You can play around with gear calculators to find your optimal gearing. See what the lowest gear you use when doing your average ride and figure out cassette/freewheel size and crankset size using the calculators. Those DNM rear shocks are good deals too as they can be had for around $70 and save about 400g.

[@littlegoobie]

8,9, and 10 speed will fit on the same freehub. you can buy whatever "freewheel" you want on ebay because they're all indentical in that NONE of them will fit a wheel with a freehub. freehubs made for cassettes, not freewheels. The real reason you shouldn't get 10speed is because buying all the parts needed will be VERY expensive. you'll need 10sp chain, shifters, cassette, rear derailleur. price out those parts and you'll find that you're looking at a TON of money, even on the used market and in reality you don't even want used cassettes and chains. Even upgrading from a 9 to 10sp doesn't make sense. If you want cheap, you can't even really get 9 speed because good 9sp shifters are quite a bit more than 8sp shifters.

[@OwenC1]

Still one of my favorite KZbin videos

[@MOUNTAINOUS]

hell ya i love me some cheap mt bikes. i just did a video last week on my 150 dollar mongoose mt bike. i built it. trued the wheels. i have no problems with it. i live on mt hood. a huge mt. i ride in the forest. and i love my mongoose.

[@beaucheney3121]

That's great to hear. I just moved out west and I'm looking to start mountain biking (since these mountains are incredible). I had to leave my bike out east so i need a good cheap one. I'm on a very tight budget. Any ideas?

[@MOUNTAINOUS]

yes see my new video that i did a ce weeks ago mt biking. mongoose ravage. i trued my wheels. tightened all my bolts. and it runs fine. i made the video maybe 2 weeks ago. it is the only mt bike video i made 2 weeks ago and i have tons of videos of me riding that bike in the forest on mt hood. make sure to sub. peace.

[@CarlosJones1]

I've been riding one of those Walmart $150 Mongoose MTBs for years after upgrading the front fork, gooseneck, bottom bracket, seatpost, tires, brake shoes and rear shock and it's actually been a sweet bike for me - nice and tight and responsive on the most extreme trails with no squeaks or rattles, and great on hills going up AND down! I know a higher end bike might be a couple pounds lighter, but I've held my own with guys riding much more expensive bikes, so hey, if it works, it works!

[@MrKydaman]

@@beaucheney3121 look to buy a good used bike. A quality bike that's ten years old or more will still be solid bike.

[@Gary-tc7zx]

@@CarlosJones1 That's cool. I've been debating upgrading a mongoose ledge that I got for free. I've already done some basics to get it riding, and was wondering if the frame could handle some mods, sounds like it probably can.

[@Y_z_r]

Well unfortunately most of the ppl can't expend thousands of dollars in a bike

[@RadioGalaxyWaves]

Yzoru well if you actually did some reading before commenting, you would know it doesn’t take anywhere near that much to start. $400 for an entry level hardtail....

[@extrachromosome7114]

I’ll agree, it’s a little frustrating to be spending $6000 on something that costs like $500 to manufacture. Even handmade bikes that are really nice only cost around a thousand to produce but can go for $10,000. Truly an unfair market. There’s a lot of money to be made if someone’s willing to produce high quality bikes at a low up charge rate. Then again, I know very little about that type of stuff, and more about the bikes themselves.

[@OfficialFedHater]

Look around the used market, you can get nice bikes that will handle trails for decent prices. Even a new entry-level bike is only a few hundred more than a Walmart bike.

[@pepethefrog5639]

Yzoru I don't mean to sound like an elitist, but if you cheap out and not investing in a bike that isn't inherently dangerous, mountain biking isn't for you.

[@mrvwbug4423]

$500 will get you a decent hardtail with hydraulic disc brakes, suspension that actually works (within reason, a double black in whistler might still be asking a bit much haha). A frame that won't bend when climbing and drivetrain that won't fall off on the first downhill.

[@magicunicorn6535]

Those poor bikes gave a valiant effort to survive terrain most Walmart bikes never see! They may have failed, but at least they tried! I hope you can fix them up so they're rideable again, and donate them to someone who just needs a transportation bike.

[@wymanlovestkd]

Instead of chainless u could have made it a single speed

[@rickmartin976]

That's what I was thinking.

[@ムース-r5d]

well ya but i dont think anyone would commit 5 minutes on a crap bike like that

[@oliverbray1229]

Dirtjumper Kid yea but a bike like that could've had chain growth as you went through the rear travel, so seth would've risked snapping the chain. You need some sort of chain tensioner on a dually

[@ModifiedMyers]

Dirtjumper Kid he would have had to shorten the chain. Hard when it has no masterlink and you dont have a joining pin

[@dusty111]

Found a good used fully for ~500,-€ Yes it's used but i took it to a bikeshop for a checkup and adjusting the suspension to my weight and it all seems good. Took it down a technical black trail (didn't really know what that trail was until i was already in it). The bike did well and i survived with 4 almost-crashes. Love it!

[@MeMe-yt5uy]

Welcome to two guys with lots of money get to feel like most people for once

[@bananasstuff3344]

'most people' can't ride those trails and definitely not that fast but whatever.

[@amp6322]

I knew it was the derailleur once I heard that sound🤣... my friends 800$ hard tails derailleur while we were riding di the same and locked his tire making him go over the handlebars which sucks

[@RigginTheRod010]

Amp63 lol my chain got stuck like that before.. with this bike. Not fun

[@danielheckmann]

Put a hydralic brake and a rockshock on that bike 🤣👌

[@MattPayne1]

and a upgraded derailleur since that broke. Yes it might not be cost effective that point, but its cool taking things to the extreme in a alternate reality.

[@gthesuperman903]

You can't sadly because the hex bolt is made of aluminum and stripes when you try to lossen

[@ting280]

you can literally break those bolts off with hand pressure if you rock the ratchet back and forth, then just upgrade them

[@muhammedfavas5185]

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