(169)The Wallenberg Class

[@cpltrickie]

They went to the Klingon for help! lol! Wait a minute, laugh even louder.

[@MatthewMerrickMTM]

You managed to take a ship I found underwhelming/forgettable, and present it in such a way I kinda wanna get one for my eaglemoss collection now. Impressive work!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you Matt :) That means a lot!

[@MatthewMerrickMTM]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I have one now. :)

[@GrendelMTL]

That's EXACTLY what a Romulan would say... 🤔😛

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol ;)

[@RememberTheChase]

Ugh can't get enough of this channel, even after idk like 3 or 4 years? Amazing stuff.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Wow thank you so much, high praise

[@antwan1357]

I love some cargo ships thanks for making this

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No problem 😊

[@tonosama516]

Thank you for showing some love for support ships. This ship is one of my favorite, along with Ptolemy class and the later relegation of the Miranda class to transport/cargo duties. 🖖 ✌️

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No problem :)

[@ericmadsen7470]

Welcome back and congratulations on the new season. Looking forward to what Triangulum has for ths new year.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you Eric

[@jasonknight7719]

Too bad they couldn’t have used Scotty’s transporter hack to just beam everyone off Romulus and store them until they arrived at new colonies 😖

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I know right?

[@williamsquires3070]

The problem, as you know, is that the other guy didn’t make it. Whether this was because Scotty had better plot armor or not, is unknown, but a 50% survival rate isn’t going to win any awards, except maybe the (not so coveted) Leonard McCoy “Scatter my atoms into space” award. 🤣😆😂

[@michaelaldredge-greenwell1692]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I agree

[@leaaronsanchez]

The resequencing buffer would overload and malfunction, possibly even emerging dozens or hundreds of people until one people like what happened to neelix and Tuvoc.

[@singletona082]

Gonna be honest. That was a one off episode with.... mindblowing implicatiosn THAT WERE NEVER FOLLOWED UP ON. Except DS9 made it immenantely WORSE. Here we have enough storage space for People. Then Voyager made it EVEN WORSE. here is a thing the size of a deck of cards that can store A PERSON and have that mind be a physical hologram. Now imagine someone getting beamed up, their physical pattenr converted into specs for a hologram. and then transferred to an emitter?

[@michaelaldredge-greenwell1692]

I so enjoy each & every one of your wonderful videos. They teach all of us out here about every ship design, the ships’ histories, the crew, to make each episode a true wonder to watch. I am grateful to you for sharing your brilliant knowledge with us, & I appreciate & applaud all your efforts & time for these most welcomed videos!!

[@SilverAranda]

It... its a train... is a train ON SPAAAAACE!!! I like it, is simple design but focus on the end goal.. sadly what happened to them in the end... sigh..

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Absolutely!

[@barrybend7189]

This and the Ptolemy class need to be in STO as a carrier.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You never know, though i doubt the Ptolemy Class will ever be in STO as they would have to pay royalties for it...

[@barrybend7189]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios small price as the Ptolemy, Hermes and Federation class are canon as of the TMP readouts on the Enterprise in the Motion Picture.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yes but STO is a business, and why pay for a design that Trek doesn't own when you can just make your own design and plop it in a lockbox?

[@jeffhallam2004]

Good video and we know you’re not a Romulan, thats Venom Geek Media lol

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol

[@majinjones4565]

Fantastic as always! Welcome back and most definitely! Nerd Approved!!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Much appreciated! :)

[@wiaf8937]

that was well written, well executed and the narration was also pretty good. youve earned my interaction and sub.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Welcome aboard!

[@georgesulea]

Another great video! More please!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Noted ;) And thank you :)

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very nicely well done and very well informatively executed and explained in every way indeed👌...

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much 😀

[@JeremyBolanos]

I'm surprised Romulus didn't build the pods and the federation build the tugs to speed things up. Then the pods could have been used as housing at the evacuation landings.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

The Star Empire simply didnt have the resources to do that... IE They shipyards had been devastated during conflicts and rebel attacks, they could not build enough new docks in time... So instead diverted resources to the federation to assist them, as they DID have the resources :)

[@kaidenshepard8446]

The ship design is alright, ant the nacelly pylons, from what I see here look like they could be variable geometry ones as well (when not hauling containers) - its just how they look, its not a bad things, just an observation and still would look good. It would be good if they also came to STO as well, even if its for fun like the Kobayashi Maru freighter as an event prize. (i know they are in game as a background ship and non-playable in that one yearly event TFO which is fun) I was surprised to find that they were unarmed, though the reasoning behind it makes sense but I would hope they would have some pretty strong shielding A great video as always, and a great starter for the new season too

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much :)

[@star86703]

Brilliant first video for 2023

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you Sam :)

[@abx42]

I'll be honest I didn't even know this ship had a background even beta it's kind of cool.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Surprise!

[@dominik8005]

Thank you very much for this nice video of the Wallenber Class. and Habby new year

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Happy new year! And you're very welcome!

[@dominik8005]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios thank you. one questions have you finished to seeing Star Trek: Prodigy

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Indeed I have :)

[@dominik8005]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios it is a Awesome!

[@wayneheyes904]

Loved it :-) any news on the major continuation ?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Soooooon :)

[@almirria6753]

Hey Tri, how goes the storyline of the Federation Colney that went outside the galaxy coming along?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Its coming along, dont worry :)

[@macross.shaeffer3197]

Happy New Year, buddy

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Happy new year to you too! :)

[@elcowabungahe-man6156]

Great video friend i always wanted to find out more about this ships also i said it again your narratives should be considered canon take care and may this new year be a great one to you and your love one's 🖖😊

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much, high praise indeed :)

[@sailorbychoice1]

You mentioned the ship had a crew of 85, but you never mentioned how many passengers could be carried aboard or per cargo pod, unless I missed it twice in listening.

[@leaaronsanchez]

I wonder why the Romulans did rejoin with there cousins the Vulcan's. Ambassador Spock was on Romulus II for several years preaching for that.

[@augurseer]

Yay!! Season 7

[@The1ReviewBoard]

Happy Season 7!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thanks Ryan :)

[@The1ReviewBoard]

You’re welcome, here’s to many more. Keep up the good work. Do you have a Favorite episode of T or M and T or M Beta?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I have a few favorites, but it's really hard to separate myself from them all as Ive done almost 1000 videos for the channel :S LOL

[@samronin1141]

You can just tell this was another John Eaves design around the time of Disco S1. It has the little wings on top just like the Walker. I honestly thought these would be very small ships after rescuing them in STO. Maybe more akin crew wise to the Aerie/Raven type or even Runabout crew levels. One thing that might've been good in the video. I think in the Picard prequel comic the Romulans are reluctant about Starfleet help as a possible invasion and conquering of their worlds. So requiring the rescue ships be unarmed as a safeguard that they would not be thousands of invasion ships disguised could've played in well to their sense of isolationist paranoia.

[@evos469]

Actually if starfleet had hallowed out all of the ships in the ship yards they could have done

[@Cauin450]

Is it just me or does the front of this thing remind anyone else of the Texas class from Lower Decks? is this where Adml Mal hombre got the spare parts?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Well it certainly has Starship Lineage to it ;)

[@randybentley2633]

The tractor-trailer gets fancier the more the years pass. :) Though it'd probably be slightly more resource intensive given the starship component side of the holoship from ST: insurrection, it would have been a much better choice to be used given its much more expansive yet simple layout that was configurable.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Except a holoship requires more power and resources, and could be prone to malfunctions... Therefore this is a better, more logical choice!

[@randybentley2633]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios By the point of their construction, each of those flaws would be tried and true systems that would have ample amounts of power provided by them being starships in their own right.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Says who? The Holodeck still malfunctioned 20 years after it's development, and it malfunctioned a LOT. That's canon... ALSO Voyager taught us that the Holodeck runs off it's own power source, a source which is incompatible with other starship systems, again proving the "more power and resources" point I made. So again, a regular starship is still a more logical, and better choice. Especially when dealing with peoples lives in an open and grand scale!

[@randybentley2633]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Those are ships upon whom the Holodeck was a compartment part of the whole and not the reason for the ship's existence. A lot more would have gone into the further development of these ships given their intended purpose. The sheer area available and their on-the-fly configurability for the multitude of the different races that made up the areas of the Empire that would be affected and need to be transported would have made this ship type a Godsend.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You cant just make up facts to support your argument! There is NO canon or Beta Canon to support your comment... Im sorry, but you've got nothing! It is illogical to even assume Holoships of the 24th Century was a big enough thing to even develop them! In fact, since the Admiral in Insurrection was committing an illegal act, its far more logical to assume that starship was 1 of a kind... Weve never seen it since, and once exposed, the Federation would want to distance itself FAR from that controversy... So again sorry, but you've got nothing!

[@thomaswright7270]

i want to see a video on the tepest clall

[@keirfarnum6811]

Why didn’t they just use some red matter to neutralize the supernova? Have a Vulcan do it; say someone like Spock. I’m sure he wouldn’t fail. Get the Vulcan Science Academy on it right away! They’ll send their fastest ship! See? Problem solved!

[@ryanswma]

Slight correction: the star that went supernova was in the Hobus system, some distance away from Romulus. If it were the Romulan system star itself, there wouldn't have been enough time to debate a response, everything on the surface of Romulus would've been frozen by the dying, imploding star long before the plea for aid could be sent. At least, that's what the novels, STO and comics say. Great job as always, look forward to the next BETA!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Im sorry, you are incorrect, as canon itself has proven that to be wrong... And canon ALWAYS trumps beta canon! Thank you for the support :)

[@ryanswma]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Oops. Guess my thumb slipped when I pressed send on my phone X_X So the Hobus supernova was retconned then? Could've sworn that was it, but I'll take your word. Cheers man.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Well it wasn't retconned, as Beta Canon is meaningless when it comes to Star Trek. But yes, Star Trek: Picard was clear about it being Romulus's Sun... In the Original Script I wrote for this video, I had a line which I said, " The Romulan Sun, also known as Hobus," but I cut it out, as I didnt want to make THAT particular leap for the fans. But if it helps, that could explain everything :) Again thank you for the support! Keep Trekkin'

[@sjTHEfirst]

Being that the nacelles are slung so low, you would think the cargo pods could be larger (height wise) or be doubled stacked, one up and one down (think Battlestar Pegasus flight pods).

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Not to maintain a warp field for the addition of 5 pods!

[@laroark5036]

I think it would be interesting if the evacuation took place and the Romulus and Reamons became part of the Federation.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Its far more interesting and world relevant the way the story was actually done!

[@laroark5036]

@TriAngulum Audio Studios Well yes but I just thought it might be cool , nothing is wrong with it

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Of course, no one said there was anything wrong with the idea, im just saying the idea they went with was much better :) #IDIC

[@defiantance]

Again, I wish Starfleet would name this class ship types by known cargo haulers: The Kenworth class or even the Peterbilt class. And can we have the nacelles be done in the best color in the universe: Chrome. Hehe.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

This class was named after Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg, who saved thousands of Jewish people from the Holocaust in Budapest, Hungary during World War II. Get the name now ;) :P

[@defiantance]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios It's still an idea. :P

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

An idea yes, not a good one though LOL :P

[@daviddyster4145]

Happy New Year @TriAngulum Audio Studios nice video, but if the Syinth attacked the UFP why didn’t they atack the Romulans afterwards?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Happy New Year! And did you not watch Star Trek Picard? Cause thats all explained in the show...

[@Daginni1]

Everybody round the world wants to know if you're a squirrel!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Huh?

[@Daginni1]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Exactly what a squirrel would say

[@akjackhd5804]

11:36 hmmm im sure that's what a romulan would say to cross the neutr- ehm... the uh.... uhhh im dragging this joke too far!!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

LOL Maybe a little ;) :P

[@OllamhDrab]

(Another thing I hate about the ill-thought-through worldbuilding of Picard S1, ....it's like the Romulan *Empire* suddenly had no way to get off a planet without the Federation helping. I mean, they ...had an *Empire?* Even dissident factions wouldn't just twiddle thumbs and count on outside help all of a sudden. I could see them needing help, but ...too broad of strokes became plot points.)

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I disagree... The MASSIVE evacuation of Romulus and the surrounding star systems was not a small job. You heard the math... Now picture the Romulan fleet at about a 3rd of its strength after the Dominion War and the Borg Attack. And you think that species, which had been forced in to the Star Empire would suddenly offer to help their oppressors? Oppressors that no longer had a strong enough fleet to keep them in line? No, im sorry, you're incorrect on this point, the Star Empire needing a lot of help was definitely a point they got 100% right!

[@OllamhDrab]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Eh, I get that they needed help, but I *don't* buy the notion they suddenly became a helpless isolated planet that relied entirely on the Federation to move any people, never mind that they'd *admit* it. (Also it makes no damn sense that the Federation would pull all the ships into Mars for refit instead of moving people as they could and maybe rotating some in for refit as they went.)

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No one ever said they "became a helpless isolated planet, that relied entirely on the Federation to move any people," in fact this video itself often mentions the remaining Romulan Fleet. So Im not sure why you keep saying that as you have made that up in your head. All that was ever said was due to the daunting task, and the events in the Romulan Empire at the time and leading up to the time, the Star Empire needed help! And yes, it DOES make sense to recall the fleet for refit, again because of the daunting task. They had a time frame for the Star going Nova and in true Starfleet/ Federation tradition they would have put together teams to come up with the best plan to ensure maximum survival. Sending in starships willy nilly as you suggest would simple create bigger problems and ensure far less people would be evacuated in the end. If you do all the math, you'd see, your idea is horrible in the long wrong... Anyhow, hope this helps clear up your confusion! Take care!

[@Tricky117]

10:05 Did your cat jump onto your desk while recording? I honestly don't even know if you have a cat lol. I was just watching along here with my headphones in, heard a bang at the time index that made me look for what my cat had just knocked over lol

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No, i dont have a cat... So i havd no idea lol

[@rbtsubs]

That's where they lost me never been a Picard or the love boat fan . Then they add Voyager ..... batting a thousand here guys

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Huh? Sorry what? Your comment doesnt make any sense, as we the ones reading it aren't Betazoids, and dont know what you are referring too!

[@jollyjohnthepirate3168]

Silly me. I thought that before a star exploded in a supernova it dropped out of main sequence and swelled up to a red giant. Romulus would be doomed long before their star exploded.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Im not sure where you got this idea, but it's incorrect... There are 2 types of SuperNova and only 1 type does what you suggest... Besides, this SuperNova was a triggered event, rather then a natural progression! So yes, silly you!

[@cobeoe]

You know, I know it's all about script writing, but did they really wait for 10th or 13000 ships to be fully constructed instead of sending each one that was finished on its way to help, this feels like a pearl Harbor mobent. For real, for every ship that was finished. They should have sent it on its way to its mission. It might have saved some lives

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No, not exactly... Federation starships were already evacuating people when the Synth Attack occurred... However, the bulk of the fleet was being constructed and/ or upgraded when the attack happened. Utopia Planita had expanded it's births to 13000 in orbit of Mars and began construction of almost all the Wallenberg Class ships at the same time, meaning, they would have been completed at the same time and sent off!

[@cobeoe]

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics even so, I'm sure the Wallenberg & refits could be sent off after each each ship was finished by the time the shipyard got so large maybe 3000 ships could have been sent in the time frame of the expansion of the shipyards. & why only just mars I know Jupiter has shipyards & saturan they could have split the difference between 2 or 3 planets 400 0r 700 ships each world even if the synth/Romulan attack still happened it'd be pretty hard to attack 2 or 3 planets at the same time

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Nooooooo, that's not how it worked... They werent building 1 dock at a time, and starting 1 ship at a time, they built 10000 docks at once, meaning they all finished at the same time, then built 10000 Wallenberg ships all starting at the same time, which means they would all finish at the same time, making your first point moot. Also, there are NO shipyards at Jupiter or Saturn in the Prime Timeline, according to canon, so Im not sure where you're getting that idea? And also, even if their were, it would ABSOLUTELY be possible for the Synth to attack at EACH planet anyhow. Im not sure why you think otherwise, but just like how Lore and Data were both summoned to see their Father in the TNG Episode Brothers, a single command would have affected ALL of the Synths creating the same outcome!

[@cobeoe]

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics those were 2 individuals with long distant shipyards they have their own management teams doing their own thing only contacting other planets for a status reports meaning communication between them would be small wouldn't it? & the Romulans only had enough ships to attack 1 planet right because they have a 2nd evil shadow organization they can only commit to so much Subtrafuge. And really they built the docks first instead maybe 1 at a time or at the Same time wow that just feels like poor planning they did use existing shipyards for the plan so I would have guessed some refits & ground-up construction would have helped finish a little faster?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Sorry you're satill incorrect on all accounts, especially since again, there are no shipyards on Jupiter or Saturn! And, The Romulans DIDNT attack the planet, the Synth Did using Starfleets own ships, that's why the ships have Starfleet symbols on them! And that's why Starfleet didnt know the Romulan Connection! You did watch Season 1 of Star Trek: Picard right? Because this is all explained in it... And last time, yes, they built ALL docks at the same time, and then ALL ships at the same time and that was a far more efficient way of doing things then 1 at a time, as history has taught us with mass production! Anyhow, hope this clears things up for you now, take care and keep Trekkin'...

[@james8449100]

I thought remains where also of vulkan descent with year of underground living in a high radiation environment

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Sorry what? I dont understand this comment?

[@bird1142]

First 🎉

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Congratulations, and thank you for your support :)

[@robertwhatley9861]

What ever happened to the synths? I thought the synth ships were cool.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

They were decommissioned after the attack!

[@lauriewhite8153]

aledo class video??

[@lordeldauoud142]

“ Well “ “ Explain “

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Sorry what?

[@singletona082]

It's ugly but imminately practical. Same concept as a train. Stack more containers/cars/pods as needed. Possibly with mroe engines scattered to provide more push, and when evaccuating a PLANET....