17+ Digital Cluster Retrofit into 13-16 FRS/BRZ

[@mashuu_]

Have always wanted to look for a reliable forum to retrofit a 17+ cluster onto the previous gen, now it’s all included into a reliable video that was super easy to follow. Thank you

[@KevinVo]

Glad I could help!

[@quangNguyen-oy2wm]

Does ECUtek cable work with techstream?

[@jamesvermillion5151]

I may not intend to swap clusters, but I like the presentation for assembly/dis-assembly of the dash and console. Just in case I ever need to get in there.

[@masbros805]

dude you explained everything nicely so if someone else were to do this, it would make sense. you left links for everything you used and u even time stamped everything. kay im subbed ur awesome

[@KevinVo]

Thanks for the support! Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@shinigami052]

Can't wait for the 2022+ cluster retrofit video. The new cluster looks so bad ass.

[@KevinVo]

Haha I wish we could make the new one work too! I'm content with the new one though!

[@shinigami052]

@@KevinVo Maybe in a few years we'll get an update video. But you weren't kidding when you said it's a lot more complex of a mod. Good shit!

[@K03sport]

Community support is a wonderful thing....

[@KevinVo]

Appreciate the support!

[@marianoree1904]

Now this is the content we need!!!

[@Abdiel8164]

Wuao man thanks you very much!! See many videos but nothings like this!

[@KevinVo]

You're welcome! Thanks for the support!

[@North305]

I think i prefer the styling of the old cluster, i like the material-look background that covers all the gauges, but i prefer the way the rev meter takes up so much more space now - that dial is going to be moving a bit quicker

[@knappRC]

Amazing! I have always wanted to do this. Thanks for video!

[@KevinVo]

Of course, happy to help! This was a very rewarding install!

[@elrudiiisimo3066]

You see I wasn’t planning on changing the clusters until I saw that it shows how much range you have left and I always love seeing that. Now the problem is that I have an automatic so where you placed the button I already have a button there :( any other clever places you can think of placing?

[@KevinVo]

You can really put the controls anywhere that you desire. Do you have a push to start? If so you can put the controls where the key start would be. Otherwise, you can also put the controls to the side of the cluster or where your fog light button would be.

[@achiinrst1628]

@@KevinVo I saw one guy on reddit managed to retrofit the 17+ wheel on a 2013 brz and got the controls to work but he never said how he did it.

[@RealWheelDeal]

Great video man! I will try this I think.

[@KevinVo]

Highly recommend it!

[@oogaboogas001]

suuuper dope. i had always wondered if you could retrofit the steering wheel controls from 17+ to 13-16 models without the head unit, just to control music :P

[@KevinVo]

Glad you enjoyed it! I am not entirely sure on the steering wheel controls controlling music without the new head unit though.

[@Abdiel8164]

@@KevinVo another question I have a 14 frs automatic, this will work to on them?

[@eddersegura3260]

I’ve done it. Changes out steering wheel and airbag and ran the wiring through the clock spring and into a swc module. SWC are analog negative ladder so most modules will take care of it

[@rayray9567]

How is it able to show the oil temp info. Does that mean the Frs already has a factory oil temp sensor but just no way to get a reading from it.

[@xCavght]

Canbus. The cluster is already programmed for it, and the information is there in the Ecu already.

[@guymerus100]

Great video!

[@KevinVo]

Thanks!

[@nicorico4774]

Amazing Stuff

[@KevinVo]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@UsedWolf]

Is it possible to do this mod with a 2017 wheel and using the wheel controls instead of the awkward joystick?

[@rossrogers2453]

Love this

[@KevinVo]

Me too!!

[@andrejcupac7359]

Now I want this video, but with the GR86 display, cause it shows TPMS for individual wheels instead of a dumb orange light!

[@KevinVo]

Not sure the cluster would be compatible unfortunately.

[@sappk4908]

Wow that’s nice

[@recklesslyarrogant7242]

Good video

[@KevinVo]

Thank you!!

[@ralkia]

What's the part number for the 2017+ dash?? I have a 2017 base with the old style infotainment. I like the simplicity but want the gauge cluster screen

[@raynelong682]

In case you wanted to match the buttons and trim to that black replacement button you can get oem black trim off of amayama just look up the part numbers

[@KevinVo]

Yup, we sell those at FTspeed 😉 www.ftspeed.com/part/su003-02486-toyota-jdm-oem-black-mt-traction-control-buttons-2013-ft86#.Yae9GNDMKrw

[@nickfancher9201]

Would really love to see an actual reliable install video on the easygo push button start function

[@KevinVo]

Probably won't be going that route as it's very complicated and for my purposes not necessary.

[@kgthegreatone943]

I know you love your car

[@KevinVo]

Absolutely love it!

[@D4S_BRZ]

Hey kev, can you link everything you bought besides the cluster?

[@oscarrodriguez1138]

What about the mileage of the car, does it transfer over too with the program or no?

[@KevinVo]

The mileage does not automatically transfer over. You need to send it to someone to reprogram it to show the correct mileage.

[@Vees335i]

Do you have a updated link with the cable and software. I have the techstream software loaded will any j2534 cable work

[@bluesrike]

Is it possible to rerofit a 17+ steering into a pre-17 car?

[@amcezm0n3y47]

thanks for the video. Take my Sub! I see your early gen frs has the bulge above the center vents too! lol

[@johnowow]

Dope vid. Got me to go through junk yards online and grab a cluster myself 😅 now in the process of doing this mod, thanks for the insight lmao

[@KevinVo]

Awesome, glad I could help!!! 🤣

[@ffh2303]

Hi, can you share the websites to look for this? I'm not familiar with any online junkyards [this is the first time i've heard of them]

[@johnowow]

@@KevinVo Hey Kevin, finally got the cluster installed and handshake procedure done. It would randomly throw CEL code U0155 for lost comms with cluster, did you have this issue?

[@prettyzooted6288]

@@johnowow were you able to resolve the issue?

[@johnowow]

@@prettyzooted6288 Yes. If I recall correctly, I emailed Gerald about it and he mentions this is expected and can be cleared by resetting the battery or with a scanner. It went away and does not come back

[@BRZguy]

I prefer the pre-facelift gauge cluster honestly. That digital screen that just cuts through the gauges looks so sloppy and tacked on.

[@xdlol8584]

Will the tech stream mess up my tune if I use it? Car is tuned with ecutek

[@scarlethyrikirodriguez621]

I can't afford to buy the software and cable for my 2013 frs

[@lksmsl]

hello and thank you for your video. Is it possible to buy a 2017+ gt86 steering wheel with the cluster to have direct steering wheel controls or will that not work? Thanks to you

[@47err96]

I have a question have to programing to 2017 + model? (Original digital cluster model)

[@47err96]

I deleted my buttons on steering now

[@danielletekmar5111]

Question for anyone, my 2020 86 didn't come with the digital cluster so I've always wanted to switch it. It's a turn key car but my steering wheel has the controls, soooo would that automatically work then??? Also.. if it doesn't work and I have to go the traction route, my 86 has a traction off, a race traction off, and speed/snow buttons so all three are occupied... so am I out of luck then???

[@bpsprintservices1961]

you should have gotten his trac box while you were at it too.

[@KevinVo]

Don't worry, I did. That's going to have its own video.

[@maebusgaming7913]

Hey @KevinVo what is the part number for it? My toyota dealership is willing to help but they need the part number.

[@ruruihuang5595]

do u need add the oil temp sensor to support the oil temp table?

[@KevinVo]

No, the sensors are already their from the factory.

[@bryanennis1996]

I tried it and once I got to the program part it didn’t go as planned

[@alphamoondoggo]

Is there an international shipper that sells the 2017+ cluster? My country doesn't seem to have any.

[@KevinVo]

Honestly, I'm not quite sure, sorry!

[@ninchalla_creates]

Can you retrofit steering wheel controls?

[@KevinVo]

Absolutely! You just need the steering wheel.

[@indoneseazn]

If I have a 2017 86, will I need to buy the joystick and wiring?

[@KevinVo]

You'll either have to buy the joystick or buy the OEM steering wheel controls.

[@welldoublea]

Can you do something similar to a video like this for the 15-17 STi with the Gauge Cluster and the center screen where the Boost Guage is from a 18+ STi.

[@codyfunden2816]

This it a great video iv wanted to do this since i got my frs but i was wondering If you could pair a 17 steering wheel with it instead of the little toggle switch?

[@KevinVo]

Yes, you can run the 17 wheel and use the controls on that steering wheel instead.

[@codyfunden2816]

@Kevin Vo that's great news! could you point me in the right direction for what you'd do for the wheel to work? Not trying to write 1000 questions in the comments lol

[@jorqlip]

Is a fully digital display version available?

[@tougedriver8358]

Does the oil temp gauge work too or do you have to do some more to it?

[@KevinVo]

Yes everything works as it should.

[@karinadesantiago1751]

I have a 2015 scion FRS will this wok using a 2018 speedometer cluster 85004CA530? Thank you

[@KevinVo]

Yes it should.

[@karinadesantiago1751]

@@KevinVo Thank you so much your video made it super easy, I just finished mine and now it looks amazing

[@Jay-fb6uw]

AC Controls or push to start conversions next 👀?

[@KevinVo]

Unfortunately, push to start is actually a real pain to add so not worth it for me.

[@Abdiel8164]

What models of the techstream i need for the programing? thanks

[@86imports]

It works for a Toyota ft 86 2014?

[@KevinVo]

Yes

[@Meow.999.]

Does this work for the automatic version?

[@thereald-goz3588]

Is this the same process with 2017 Manual Trans?

[@KevinVo]

I believe so.

[@thereald-goz3588]

That doesn't sound convincing haha. Thanks man.

[@KevinVo]

@@thereald-goz3588 not having done it myself, I couldn't say 100% haha

[@sabahmazood7249]

Thanks for the reply on the previous comment Kevin! I had one small doubt, I have the 2017 steering wheel without the right side switch (the one that controls the instrument cluster) since I got the basic version with the older model instrument cluster. Is there any way to maybe just get the right side switch panel (the 5 directional buttons with return function) and somehow wire it up to the instrument cluster through the clockspring? Please let me know if you have any info. Thank you! 🙏

[@KevinVo]

I think you would need to buy the whole steering wheel button setup. I doubt they sell just one side.

[@sabahmazood7249]

@@KevinVo but will the clockspring harness support the wiring?

[@bhavneetsaini7941]

Hey Kevin, I’m doing the swap soon. Picked up one from an auto 86 for my ‘14 frs 6spd. Although i have two keys for my car so would i have to do the handshake procedure twice with both keys?

[@KevinVo]

No, should just need to do it once I believe.

[@cyrus.gonzales]

Will you have to install aftermarket sensors to measure the oil temp and water temp?

[@KevinVo]

No, the factory sensors are already there.

[@stanob7016]

i have one question if i can. Is it possible to change welcoming screen on facelift clusters ? i just have BRz facelift cluster on hand and i want to fit it in gt86

[@KevinVo]

Yes, geraldjustprojects is able to change that if you send that in to him.

[@stanob7016]

@@KevinVo but i am not from the states, i am from EU

[@NapalmPineapple]

Will this work on a 17+ base model? My car has the older cluster style.

[@tkbotsss7564]

This is kinda a old video but disconnect the battery after you tested the dash

[@moey_s5209]

Ok I have a question if someone can help I have a 2013 base model 86 and it comes with the analogue cluster any chance this software will allow me to put in a cluster from same year with the digital speedo and white dial I really want to do this swap but am struggling to find information. Also could I use an auto cluster for my manual?

[@KevinVo]

You should be able to retrofit it into your car.

[@The98dynamite]

I have a 2013 and it doesn’t tell my miles until empty. With this new cluster it will tell me without having to add anything else to the car?

[@KevinVo]

What do you mean it doesn't tell your miles until it's empty? Are you saying the fuel gage doesn't work at all, just the gas light comes on when you're close to empty?

[@86imports]

How can I change the MPH to KM/H? and also it’s showing BRZ animation, could I change it to 86? And how?

[@Kamburrito]

hey, great video! wondering if i order the toggle switch, would i be able to just depin and repin the switch into my cluster? i just installed a steering wheel set up on my car, but would still like to retain the ability to control my cluster. any input would be great!

[@KevinVo]

Yes, it should work the same!

[@Kamburrito]

@@KevinVo Thanks kevin! just ordered it. appreciate the help!

[@krishall268]

My RHD GT86 did not come with a digital display from factory, how would I be able to do the swap ?

[@KevinVo]

Should be essentially the same process. You'll just need to add the steering wheel controls.

[@krishall268]

@@KevinVo ok thanks, so you think the plug that goes into the back of the cluster would be the same ? I figured it might not have all the pins to power up the display

[@krishall268]

@@KevinVo you can check my videos out to see the cluster I have, it does not show a digital MPH gauge display

[@KevinVo]

@@krishall268 ah interesting, I have not seen that cluster before. I'm not quite sure on models outside of the US, but I can't imagine they changed much. Worth an effort to try imo.

[@itznicholaaas4843]

for my automatic would i need a gauge cluster from an auto?

[@KevinVo]

Nope, doesn't matter as they use the same cluster.

[@donos_86]

Does anybody have a link to the diagram of the cluster connector? I need to find the speedo cable

[@KevinVo]

Unfortunately, I do not. Sorry!

[@vikrambhullar8390]

I was looking to do it desperately but i have an auto and all the clusters i could find are from manual. Will it still work ?

[@KevinVo]

Yes, it should still work. I believe my cluster is actually from an AT.

[@YaKiZoBa]

The transmission does not matter. What matter is the car is Push start or Turn key. If the car is push start, it is just a simple swap-and-go. If the car is turn key then you must do handshake procedure as seen on the video at 15:20.

[@bushgnome]

Im def gonna do this if/when I can find a cluster. what do you do about the mileage difference?

[@KevinVo]

You can send the cluster into GeraldJustProjects and he can reprogram the mileage for you.

[@stone6655]

@@KevinVo Do you just have to email him, I do not see any mention of that on his site.

[@KevinVo]

@@stone6655 yes just email.

[@edenadamstory]

Hi, if I buy a 17+ steering wheel, will I be able to control with this cluster? If it does, does that mean I don’t need to install that little joystick control button? Thx.

[@KevinVo]

Yes, you can either use the 17+ steering wheel controls or use the geraldjustprojects controller.

[@davidpercefull3982]

Way off topic but what’s the link to the phone mount you have!

[@KevinVo]

That's not a phone mount, that's the mount for my Garmin Catalyst.

[@johnboyle722]

Will this work in a 2018 BRZ since it’s not a pre 17+?

[@Tim25446]

great Video! Where i can buy a digital cluster? And when i buy a facelift steering wheel with controls - then i don't need the extra controller, right? Thank and i wish a good weekend from GER.

[@KevinVo]

If you have the new steering wheel controls then you don't need the extra controller. As for where to acquire the digital cluster, I'm not sure how you can go about that in GER, but I used www.car-part.com/ to source one in USA from a junk yard.

[@Tim25446]

@@KevinVo Thank you!:)

[@Mango_j98]

I have the 2017’ 86 with the old style cluster will this work too?

[@KevinVo]

Absolutely! You can either choose to use the retrofit kit from Gerald Just Projects or you should also be able to buy the OEM steering wheel controls to add as well.

[@Mango_j98]

@@KevinVo I have the 2017’ oem steering wheel for the 86 but the right side is blank is there a button interface for that too

[@Mango_j98]

@@KevinVo and I’m automatic also not sure where to put the buttons

[@Imashankubad]

Potentially dumb question: if you install this on an AT car, will you loose any of the driving modes (sport/snow)?

[@KevinVo]

No, you shouldn't lose any functionality.

[@kevintrinh8131]

How do I get it the cluster reprogrammed to display my actual mileage? Do I have to contact him privately?

[@KevinVo]

Yes, just send them an email.

[@zak_king16]

i have an issue with my brz not always starting right away when i press the button (no its not the battery in the key or my clutch/neutral switch either) was wondering if anyone knows if using the tech stream sofware would be able to help re calibrate/ figure out what's not communicating 100% in the immobilizer system?

[@SH-L0]

Hey Kevin, Great Vid - Just wondering if this swap retains the "hill hold" feature in the 17+ cars?

[@vincenttrieu728]

I believe the hill hold function is a feature stored in the 17+ VSC/ESP ECU, so swapping the instrument panel wouldn’t introduce that feature to this 13-16 FRS

[@KevinVo]

It wouldn't add the feature if your car didn't already have it, unfortunately.

[@SH-L0]

Ah got it, thank you so much for the reply guys!

[@tedestroyer]

You can swap the ABS controller from the 17+ models to get it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6SxhamXh5apiKc

[@andretaylor88]

I wonder if this would work on my ls frs swap

[@KevinVo]

I would assume that the wiring and sensors are a bit different.

[@ivoe6860]

Can you do a ac manual to digital retro fit

[@KevinVo]

It's possible, just very much not worth it. It's very complicated and requires you to essentially swap out the whole hvac system and deal with the wiring as well.

[@Epiclights]

To have the mileage reset to current miles do you have to send it in or can you change it with the tech stream?

[@KevinVo]

You'd have to send it in to someone who can program it. I don't believe you can do it in techstream.

[@Falken240]

What about changing the mileage?

[@KevinVo]

You can send the cluster to geraldjustprojects.com to reprogram the mileage.

[@BenjiLS430]

Another thing, would it be possible to wire in a 2017+ steering wheel so the chip board isn't required? Figured it might be an option, but probably not considering the steering wheel doesn't have any controls on it in the first place.

[@ScratchMB]

It’s possible, i’m in the process of making a tutorial. I already have a tutorial on how to put the head unit controls on the steering wheel if you don’t have them

[@josebrisenojr665]

What about the celicas

[@KevinVo]

What do you mean? I don't have a Celica.

[@RealWheelDeal]

Does this keep your odometer?

[@KevinVo]

No, the odometer will show whatever is on the car it was from. I shipped mine out to geraldjustprojects.com to have him reprogram the correct mileage on it.

[@RealWheelDeal]

@@KevinVo Awesome. That's my top mod for my car coming up. The odometer roll back.

[@tormenmashi_]

Quick question, is it possible to do it in reverse? idk I'm weird I like more of the analogue look of previous gen gauge

[@KevinVo]

I mean, you could if you really wanted to haha

[@TohPhimmasenh]

would this fit 2012 gt86?

[@KevinVo]

Yes this should work just fine.

[@Icejones00]

You said the welcome screen can be changed from brz to 86 n vise-versa, can it be done on the 17+ cars that already have the clusters ?

[@KevinVo]

Yes, you'll just need to send it to someone that is able to do it. I sent mine to geraldjustprojects.com

[@chrismbroome]

Can you use a 2020 cluster seen on Ebay??

[@KevinVo]

Yes you can use a 2020 cluster.

[@chrismbroome]

@@KevinVo how do you get the cluster mileage transferred?

[@KevinVo]

@@chrismbroome if you want the mileage fixed, you'll need to send it to someone whoever can program it like Geraldjustprojects.com

[@Denis_Vujic]

I wanted to ask if it would be plug and play for my 2017 model and I do have steering wheel controls. My 2017 86 didn’t come with the LCD cluster.

[@KevinVo]

Is your car push to start? If so, then yest it will be plug and play.

[@Denis_Vujic]

@@KevinVo It is not, still key ignition. But since I have SWC I won’t run into that first issue of having to install that extra wiring in order to control it right? I only need to program it at the end to get it to recognize that it’s the new cluster.

[@KevinVo]

@@Denis_Vujic that is correct. You'll just need to get the techstream cable to program it.

[@Denis_Vujic]

@@KevinVo Hey Kevin, I bought these updated clusters for my 86, it was a BRZ cluster, however I’m trying to get the tech stream program to work it’s saying it can’t detect my ECU. Does it matter if my car has been tuned because I’m boosted and I don’t know if it’s because of that that’s causing me not to be able to program the cluster

[@lukehayden2715]

If I already have a 2020 brz with the digital display, do I need to program the car with the techstream cable? I just want the little dials because I have an aftermarket steering wheel and no way to control the cluster menu. Also, are the pins on the connector behind the cluster the same on 2017+ models?

[@robertmiller5890]

Selling my 17+ cluster and toggle switch if someone needs.

[@joelrivera2727]

where are u located?

[@Steinyamite]

I’m interested how can I speak more to you about it

[@indoneseazn]

How much are you selling for?

[@mickflury]

stopped watching at 3:34. I have build several of these cars from chassis to full track cars and sevral show cars. I even watched my first Frs from 2013 burn to the ground almost with me in it. Im not religious but fuck for or all that is holy in electronics unplug the fucking battery. P.S. watch out for oil temps on stock gt86. around 195 you have the chance of experiencing what its like inside an oven of death like myself and a few others. still giving thumbs up bro keep trying your best to make amazing content.

[@TrojanLube69]

Techstream is a propietary software from toyota and the one you are sharing online is a cracked/illegal copy of it. Be careful, is all I am saying since you might be considered promoting the illegal software and be sued by Toyota or the company IT side of toyota partners.

[@joenutsgarage]

Well. Bought the one in your link done everything according to instructions installed cluster and went to do ECU communication I’d registration and it won’t do the handshake. Says unable to cross-check with the meter scu ecu.

[@joenutsgarage]

Update: was able to reprogram my old gauge back to the car to get me going. Wasn’t able to pair new cluster sadly

[@KevinVo]

Sorry to hear that this didn't work for you. What was the issue you were having?

[@joenutsgarage]

@@KevinVo I had a custom cluster built so it wasn’t exactly like the 17+ model. Had a custom 13 model one with Bluetooth leds in the gauge but wouldn’t ever pair. Was able to use other useful things within the software though. Ended up just sending the guy the one out of my car to build instead.

[@dantony136]

Amazing Stuff

[@KevinVo]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@greentea_vsrg]

Damn Kevin, you're doing videos on all the mods I plan to xD

[@KevinVo]

Great minds think alike 😉

[@ZN8BD]

Is it possible to fit the push start mechanics from the newer models to the 13 model?

[@KevinVo]

Possible, but there is a lot of wiring to go along with it and I honestly don't think I'd be able to do it.

[@Shidoitsukawaii]

what about the mileage? will the new cluster tell the mileage from the original old cluster i had previously?

[@KevinVo]

You can send the cluster in to geraldjustprojects for him to program the mileage for you to match.

[@TurboMio]

I have techstrim but can’t connect it 2024 gt86

[@prettyzooted6288]

as a 2016 brz owner i really appreciate this video!! thank you very much!