.17HMR vs .22WMR - How Many Paper Plates???

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[@Paul-zt3dw]

Stumbled on your channel awhile back and I appreciate your demeanor. I don’t mean this offensively but you seem like a normal guy like the rest of us. Not tacticool or fronting, just an average dude with affordable firearms and an honest objective opinion. No click bait either, I appreciate this content. Keep it up

[@oncall21]

That's a massive difference between the 22LR and the magnum rimfires. I'd love to see the comparison between the 22 Magnum and the 17 HMR at say 50 or 100 yards were they are used for hunting. Greatly appreciate your time in doing and sharing these videos. Cheers!

[@jessetherrien7851]

I'll say the 22wmr goes through more. Looking forward to seeing it later. 👍

[@BM205]

I never went for the 17. When I got a 22mag many years ago it just fit my needs.

[@lylewollenhaupt7424]

22 mag all the way, great round, wait n see.

[@toddler0013]

I have Henry Golden Boy lever action in 17 HMR.... I typically use CCI Varment loads that travel at 2550 fps. Very accurate rifle up to 200 yards (limited distance on my range) and tears up small game. Both calibers in this video are great rounds that pack a lot of punch for the money.....very affordable rounds even these days. Good video, I'll have to duplicate the paper plate test with a Varment load just for fun. Thanks for posting!

[@MsBeerisgood]

That's 39 more plates & a bigger hole for better bleeding if you happen to take bigger critters. To me 22 mags & 410's make great survival / prepping rifles. You can find them in very small & light carbines / rifles / guns & or even hand guns. The ammo is lightweight & both offer a wide variety of options. Both can be used in a pinch as defensive gun & both can put medium sized game on the table if needed. Great video mate. I love all of the rimfire & 410 videos. A chiapa little badger 22 mag / 410 would be close to perfect imo.

[@scottmeacham1738]

That was fun to watch! I finally found a .22mag rifle in my area! I tried to look at Gun Prime's web page and couldn't navigate it very well. I got a Rossi, bolt action 10/.22mag magazine fed. Already put a BSA 4 X 32mm scope on it. Thanks for sharing these videos with us!

[@Chris.Haines.]

Always love the paper plate vids! Great job man

[@timbow50]

Cool vid. Thanks. Wished some pistol manufacturer would make like a 20 round small sized 1911 .22 mag. pistol. One with smooth clean lines. The .22 mag is way more powerful and destructive than most believe.

[@BigBrainBrian]

Check out Rock Island Armory's 22WMR 1911 ! I don't think it holds 20 rounds but more like 16. Still, very handsome gun.

[@jccook5353]

Check out the Keltec PMR30. Holds 30 rounds of 22 WMR. I have one. Jams a bit though. Lots of comments say it needs to be shot in and kept lubed and not a problem.

[@RETOKSQUID]

Would love to see you do this again at 50, and 100 yards.

[@Bnes-um5gn]

Agreed

[@69CamaroSS]

Absolutely....and reference these numbers in that comparison!!

[@annotten7413]

Take it out to 200, 300, 400 and 500 yards

[@cheryltysver4819]

How in the world did I miss seeing this earlier! This is the best test you could have done with rimfires! The only other similar tests that you need to review that you haven't yet is the comparison between your .500 Jeffrey and the .50BMG with the full metal jackets! With regard to this test, the fact that the 17 HMR tumbled somewhat, as you mentioned, and thereby expanded was responsible for it's poorer performance. I've tested them both many times in the same types of medium, and the .17 HMR will almost always win...as long as it doesn't tumble (which it rarely does)! Your paper plates actually are a surprisingly tough penetration medium as it's effect on bullet upset is pretty pronounced! Thanks as always, for another excellent video and again, please consider the same comparison tests between the two .50's, as noted above! If I can be of any help with that, please let me know! Take care and keep your powder dry!

[@jerryhayden8720]

I'm sold. I think my next riffle is going to be a 22 magnum Calibur bolt action. I'm leaning towards either a CZ or a Savage. Excellent test thank you and aw, that was a really fun video.👍

[@wymonwatson1309]

If you haven't already got a new rifle, bear creek arsenal is now selling a .22 mag upper for the ar15.

[@tomdixon2959]

Good stuff! Would like to see this test @ 100 yards.

[@DhimanAhir]

1:01 The 17HMR rounds had 20 grain written on the box, not 17 grain as you stated

[@tombstonefpv9053]

Always love the paper plate videos. I have both calibers and I prefer the faster lighter 17HMR, I love that little round.

[@matthewjenkins9432]

Awesome video, I’m surprised that either one of them went that far, thats impressive.

[@shawnbuonarosa3188]

Wow, I'm surprised how much more energy the magnum has over long rifle!

[@crankygunreviews]

The .22wmr is no slouch!

[@fotomotoxxiii]

Same here

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Surprised me

[@fotomotoxxiii]

@@WHOTEEWHO man I've been watching your vids daily! My favorite gun channel now. You relate to people that just want to shoot and have a good time. Not always brag about most expensive stuff. Thanks for posting!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@@fotomotoxxiii really appreciate you watching

[@danielmastin3606]

Very impressed with the 22mag. Thanks for sharing

[@jimfree5055]

Really good comparison for today’s ammo situation. Would be interesting to see the shock channel in gel also. Thanks nice job.

[@skrewdriven6891]

both neat little rounds but im partial to the 22 wmr

[@richardmoore6295]

.17 hmr is 20 grain , it says it right on the box, so it is exactly half the mass.

[@dustinweaver3032]

You need to test 17wsm vs 17hmr vs 22wsm, please

[@slickdazzler7330]

I figured the 22 would leave the 17 in the dust as far as penetration went. was surprised the 17 penetrated as far as it did. It lost by way less margin than I previously thought.

[@edsauer2889]

That was a fun and interesting test, but I was distracted by: 1) Unaware that chambers were empty 2) Chambered another round in both guns after completing the 1 shot test 3) Set 2 presumed loaded rifles carelessly on the edge of a mattress....guess what fell? That was some sloppy firearms handling.

[@annotten7413]

The 17 is designed to break apart upon impact for maximum damage - these two are totally different for what they are designed to do

[@Fox_hunter161]

Для охоты на лис какой лучше из них? Чтобы не портить шкуру.

[@chuckstewart7331]

@@Fox_hunter161 for fur trappers .17 ,for hunting meat the .22 magnum . The .17 makes a mess of small animals.

[@papalolobueno6125]

@@Fox_hunter161 my friend skinned a mink shot through the neck at 90 yards with a .17 fmj. He said there was "no hole" in the hide, like the bullet opened a couple pores. Harder to find the hollow points and fmj, mostly ballistic tip stuff out there.

[@greencreekranch]

22 mag is my fox, raccoon and badger round... Love that round

[@Indianear7]

Whew, Man I was worried that you might miss. Good thing you had a scope:-)

[@JohnDoe-ud2cc]

I would like to see this done again at 200 yards. The 17 has half the drop at that distance and a better bc so it might retain more power down range.

[@kernalcorn84]

Still my favorite caliber of all time . 22MAG BABY!!!!!!!!!!

[@oddballgunman5288]

Very cool! One of my favorite tests you do. Water jugs, paper plates, and clay! Maybe try wet magazines...

[@jimdorazio3883]

I have both and like both.... but I really like the flat fast trajectory of the 17 HMR. The 17 chews the center of the bulls eye at 100 yards. I thought the 22 mag would have penetrated more. Not a lot of difference on penetration between the two.

[@Aware_of_myshelf]

Lol dang brother! Little bit of bad luck for ya there but you still came out with a nice video!

[@davidlee50]

I was thinking about your Gel and Clay Static Targets for both Rounds. Wouldn't it be Cool to see both of those in an Animation that combines both types of Sims into a visual senario? Like it would show the penetration of the Gel but also show that realtime expansion of the clay in one Video! How Cool. BTW, you have not shown yet the 22LR in a House into a Stack of Paperbacks to find the Penetration of the round, just sayin.

[@gierhedd75]

I'm going to say the .22WMR will penetrate deeper. The .17hmr is a sizzler of a round; but I think it will expend all or most of its energy early. How many plates? .22WMR: I think 50 +/- 5 17hmr: I think 35 +/- 3 Paper is tough. If I remember correctly, Edwin Sarkisian managed to stop a 20mm with a ream or 2 of copy paper.

[@gierhedd75]

Aahh. I thought you were shooting at distance.

[@waynemayle865]

Got to go with the magnum on this one

[@nathantyson1249]

Yup me too can’t go wrong with the magnum.

[@seanomeirs8362]

Both are magnum.

[@nathantyson1249]

@@seanomeirs8362 that’s why I said what I said

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@nathantyson1249 Your comment came in while I was typing my comment. I figured that we are just having fun with this video.

[@nathantyson1249]

@@seanomeirs8362 gotta find amusement some how

[@donaldwhitworth2621]

We need to see one at 75 yards with 22 mag. And 17 Hmr. Paper plates

[@byront243]

Wow! That 22 mag is impressive! Thanx much for this vid, WTW! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@gregyazzie5247]

Just bought a Rossi 22WMR to go hog hunting with during small game season. The results from this video is encouraging.

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Hey man, you look like you got some rest. That definitely was a heck of a lot closer than expected. Have you ever had any paper plate competition come that close before? BTW, I found a Leupold 3x9x40 "Rifleman" scope for $54.00 today at Walmart. I heard they've been on clearance sale for a long time at this price but hey, they're still Leupold with a lifetime warranty. Thought you might be interested. Thanks for another cool video brother.

[@timhalloran7910]

Thx for the awesome content..and in my world, this video says I should never trade in my 22 mag for a 17hmr.

[@crankygunreviews]

Paper plates and clay blocks never get old!

[@Me2Lancer]

Thank you WTW. Both are hot rimfire rounds.

[@bryanacree1607]

Another good video friend! Keep them coming. I was surprised by results as well!

[@ewhip2894]

Love seeing the paper plate challenges

[@CplSkiUSMC]

I'd like to see .17 HMR vs .17 WSM

[@garys5540]

Im still a 17 HMR fan!! Nice one Who Tee!

[@wb5mgr]

Now do the same test with a .223 and a 22-250, that would be even more intriguing.

[@tomjones7285]

They were pretty close to the same. And since I'm a fan of both id pick about even. Who-tee-who

[@seankientz4929]

You never disappoint thanks WTW for another really fun video 👍

[@Roger_Gustafsson]

I just bought a Sako P72 .22mag and I love shooting with it. I honestly thought the .17 was going to punsch the hardest. Only wish the ammo weren't so expensive.

[@davidroberts4658]

Great video Who_tee _Hoot have a great day 👍🏼 much respect

[@tommymoto83]

I love it! No outtakes, even when you screw up. Bravo! 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@brianwade2467]

That was a really fun Video. Next up .17 vs open soda cans filled with water? The slow Mo on that will be sick...

[@CurtisDrew1]

Always wondered how my 22 Hornet would do up against a 17 HMR. So, I'm thinking based on this video the 22 Hornet would probably go through the entire stack of plates. Thought about buying a 17 HMR many times to replace the 22 Hornet because the Hornet is a single shot and I'd like to have it in Bolt Action. Think I'll keep the 22 Hornet.(M6 Scout Folding Survival Rifle) I've got over 1000 rounds for it anyway.

[@duanemiles1558]

Love your paper plate. And, the good part is that you can re sue them for picnics. Or for the fire.

[@coyotesniper72]

Thanks for doing this one. It was way closer than expected for sure.

[@dr.froghopper6711]

Yet another mass vs velocity equation. I’m still voting for mass because I think that the 17 hmr doesn’t have the mass to penetrate and will likely blow up pretty early. The 22 WMR has more frontal area and doesn’t go as fast but it’s 2.5 times as heavy at a similar high speed. I think that the mass of the 22 WMR is gonna carry it. Paper is tough stuff.

[@waynesteele5072]

That was awsome. Love my 17hmr.

[@Thx1138sober]

Look at all that green already. Nothing really started here in Northern KY yet.

[@jerrylesch9056]

On another channel there was a comparison between the 17 and 22 mag. The 17 went thru a 6x6 and a 3/4 inch plywood and the 22 mag did not make it thru the 6x6.

[@deaadlydan101]

Love your vids mate all the way from Australia

[@papajon6715]

Please consider the plate and jug test with the ,22 WSM and 5,6mm (.220) so popular in Ireland...

[@eugenejensen576]

I was surprised that is all that separated the two

[@mtkz13]

Really nice video. Very simple yet very effective on comparison. Never ever never under estimate the awesome 22mag.

[@0patience4flz]

.22 Winchester magnum rimfire...WMR...CCI ..or Hornady...🫀🫁🧠💥☠️

[@0patience4flz]

Phukke yeah 👍

[@reggieswindeall7438]

Great video, I'm a. 22 and. 22 mag fan 1st and foremost. However I would really like to see you do a video at say 50 to 75 yards. Approximately at game range. Thank you and keep up the great work.

[@lessharratt8719]

Would like to see a 22 hornet video. Paper plates would be cool.

[@crankygunreviews]

I hope you did something fun with those plates after. Like 50BMG or something

[@walterwjr947]

WOO_TEE_WHO That surprised me, I thought there would have been a greater difference between the two. I have always thought that mass equals penetration, so yes I thought that the 22 MAGNUM would penetrate farther. I wander if there is a way to up the mass of the 17 or stretch it. The 17 is up and coming, there are a few tweaks that can be done to the 17 HMR bullet, it's a mini Spitzer. WOO_TEE_WHO I APPRECIATE all your videos. On that poison oak / ivy try burning that when the wind is blowing away from the house, of cours make sure you you can control it, that stuff burns like creosote. It is spring and a few weeks ago you had snow.

[@justaformer11b95]

This is about to be a really fun video. Those muffs are about to take an alcohol bath. 🤣😂🤣😂

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

Surprised at the BIG difference between 22LR and 22Mag. 22Mag vs 17Hmr, not so much. Well done, Who Tee!

[@jasonsliger5430]

Wash that stuff really well with some dawn and it'll get the urushiol off of it. Soap within 4 hours of exposure on skin.

[@nickulvatten1039]

Fun video! I thought the .17HMR would go further than the 22MAG because of the smaller size and higher velocity, btw can you do one of these with 00 buckshot in the future? It seems like you haven't tried that, thanks!

[@brettstewart6036]

Great vid mate I would like to see the 7mm08 you have on the plates and would also like to see what a 204 and a 260 would do if you can get your hands on them cheers Yogi Australia 🇦🇺🤙🤙

[@kevingramling5443]

Good show Wtw, love my Marlin .17 hmr . Can you do paper plates and water jugs with the Bad Ass .444 Marlin . Haven't found much info on them. Factory ammo 240gr at 2500fps, should be a fun video, thanks Wtw have a good day

[@thehappymoth]

Is this a re-upload? I swear I remember you dropping you ear muffs in that poison ivy

[@Mpauti]

That’s what I was thinking when I got to this point in the video

[@gierhedd75]

I think it is

[@justincurrier218]

I was saying the same thing.

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

KZbin blocks some and he re releases when they get unblocked.

[@fruitfarmfords8243]

Just what the script called for

[@CrAzYcArNiE08]

Dry firing a rim fire is the only type that is hard on the firearm.

[@RAVENOFTHENORTHWESTGAWOODS]

That explains why a side by side fefrigerator didn't even slow down my 22 wrm at 100 yards! I've replaced target backing three time on eighteen years, but after a twenty four old frig craped out and no way to get rid of it,and in need of a new plywood blacking, it seemed logical to just to use it for some good. Before the environmentists start squawking, it sprong a leak on the freon tube is why it failed.

[@robcullen4772]

Great video mate, hope you used all the ZOOMS for that shot lol

[@VTPSTTU]

Thanks for the video! I hope you got your earmuffs cleaned well. I used to use Technu when I was in Louisiana and ran into poison oak or poison ivy.

[@snteevveetns]

my only comment is maybe the pinching of the plates is what caused the 17 to stop sooner? (more compressed/denser?)

[@thomasallen3818]

They both went farther than I had guessed that they would. I figured they wouldn’t go much over 150.

[@VOYTE]

I like this channel. New subscriber from Vancouver Canada

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@brucecoleman7412]

As expected, but a whole lot closer than expected. I still think you need to put post-it note tabs every 100 plates. Then you won’t have as many to count. Counting backwards works when you’re that close to the end. Have a good trip!

[@dubltap7216]

I have five 22 magnums, love the caliber.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

You darn fool Whotee!!! Now your gravy is gonna leak..

[@FFEMTB08]

I’ll still take the 17HMR. She’s scooting. Annndd one of the few rounds still left on the shelf at this point.

[@philliphofer9850]

Love the videos man. For what it’s worth I have a rifle suggestion for ya. A CZ 527 chambered in a 22 Hornet. To get the full potential out of that cartridge however you have to reload for it. 13.3 grains of lil gun 3000 FPS Or 11.8 grains of H100 with a 40 grain Vmax or Nosler Varmagedon 3200 FPS Me being somewhat of a blacksmith I modified the magazine and and rifle to fit those bullets Now when I reach in the safe to grab a rifle for P.Dogs or Coyotes I tend to look at the 223,204, and 22/250 however I tend to grab the ole 22 Hornet more and more. It’s a pleasure to shoot

[@philliphofer9850]

I meant H110 powder

[@philliphofer9850]

With a small pistol primer

[@jimjakosh2506]

great test. I figured the 22 mag would do better

[@Dwayne7834]

Good video thanks for sharing. I was thinking the 22wmr might have a little advantage.

[@kcshep338]

Hey, How about a go around with a .218 bee ? It's old but not forgotten.

[@paulaguilar9147]

Would also like to see 22 hornet

[@philliphofer9850]

Hell ya man I wish CZ chambered the 218 bee I have a Hornet in a CZ and its quickly becoming my favorite rifle for P. Dogs and even coyotes

[@paulaguilar9147]

Both of those little guns are awesome

[@therighttoolcompany868]

Which 9 MM band, weight, type of bullet will go the furthest in the plates?

[@Tdk1988]

Now it's time to compare .22 WMR vs .17 WSM 👍👍👍

[@RobertSmith-ft9qz]

My 22 magnum is my gun of choice.

[@kodywalker8950]

Love these test.

[@Frostytravels]

The dreaded paper plate test...awesome man.

[@Jakewolf69]

Can you do the same test but with drywall?

[@pmg8504]

.17 vs .22 Hornet next!

[@chriss8206]

I see your plates are more compressed more at the top than at the bottom. Shoot the left and right sides. 9 and 3 o'clock position. Instead of 12 and 6 o'clock. Then the plates are compressed the same on the sides. I know it's all just fun. But a little science goes a long way. Slow heavy bullets don't deform as much as high velocity. But I think you already know that. Love the plate videos.

[@harrisonbuck2749]

i imagine at your 4th of july bbq you tell people to use multiple plates so food doesent fall through the bullet holes lol.