1938 Alfa Romeo Tipo 308 (8C-308) Pre-War Grand Prix Car - 3.0-Litre Straight-8 Roots Supercharged

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[@shanehnorman]

The driver looks to be Julian Mazjub, an Iranian whose family moved to the UK several decades ago. The tear-it-up, smoking-tyres, tail-whipping style is his trademark. He's about 70 and best-known for his bravado in his own Bugatti Type 35B. As a septuagenarian myself, he's a hero of mine.

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Exactly, he's the one behind the wheel 😉👍

[@Smudgie]

He's an exceptional driver and has amazing car control. Not always the fastest but always one of the most exciting to watch. He also owns and drives a Sunbeam Indianapolis.

[@jcgabriel1569]

​@@Smudgiehe is fast, it's just that he seems to like cars that are a handful to drive... That Alfa, the Sadler-Chevrolet...

[@jcgabriel1569]

My heart skipped a beat when I saw this!!! Majzub's 308C is the only one in private hands, and the remaining one still actively raced. These cars used the chassis frames of the older Tipo C 8C-35 GP cars, which you have covered a few years ago (in which I also made a comment in!) This is what I knew of them so far... As you said, they only made 4 308Cs. One burned out at Pau in 1938, when a defective fuel tank mount sprang a leak which was then ignited by the hot exhaust, prompting Tazio Nuvolari to jump off the car at speed. That episode ultimately caused him to leave Alfa Romeo. The remaining 3 cars got raced in 1938-39, without much success, as the car was basically a stop-gap model, Alfa Romeo pining its hopes on the 12-cylinder 312, and even the 16-cylinder 316 instead. Then there's also the 158 "Alfetta", which most likely further reduced the focus on the 308C. Ultimately, the remaining 3 cars got sold. One ended up in he United States, where it was raced at Indy and even on Pikes Peak. That car remains in the USA, as part of the Indianapolis museum collection. The second car, ended up racing in Argentina, ultimately bough by Juan Manuel Fangio, and is currently displayed at Fangio's museum in Balcarce. The third car, ended up in Brazil, and many years later, that car was then found, sold to the UK then Julian Majzub bought it and restored it back into original...

[@jcgabriel1569]

By the way, Julian Majzub _really sent it!_ At the Sunday shootout, he posted a 59.68 second run!!! A sub-60-second run, on a pre-war car!!! And I loved that bit at 5:07, the P3 and the 308C side-by-side.

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

I want to thank you for reporting the history of these cars that I knew in part but not wholly. Your comments are always a great source of cultural enrichment for me, and I appreciate the time you take to write. I was sure you would like this video. I have spent a lot of time filming the beautiful pre-war cars because Goodwood is one of those very few occasions where I can see them. In the following weeks/months, I will be releasing more videos.

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

@@jcgabriel1569 That's what I like about Julian Majzub, the fact that he honours this beautiful Alfa-Romeo by driving it as befits a racing car. Compliments for the splendid weather obtained 👍

[@jcgabriel1569]

@@Italiansupercarvideo He actually crashed that car at Molecomb corner (the corner where you filmed it at 2:05 and 4:17) several years ago, when the car jumped out of gear while he's braking. Goodwood, a year or so back, streamed some old footage from Goodwood Revival. One of which is the 2010 Goodwood Trophy for pre-1952 GP and Formula Libre cars. Julian Majzub, who started in 8th place, in the rain, started passing cars until he passed ERA R4D to lead the race. But, as a dry line started to appear little by little, the ERA drive, Mac Hulbert, tried a brave move to re-pass Majzub, regaining the lead. Majzub kept fighting on, and also started fending off Audi driver Frank Stippler (driving a Maserati 8CM very sideways) until the finish. Majzub finishing a close second, Stippler right behind him in third... At the post race interview, Majzub said that the 308C keeps jumping out of gear, so in the race, he just kept it in 4th gear! Frank Stippler, meanwhile, said that his team put new tires for the 8CM for the race, which turned out to be a bad idea when it rained, meaning that his car had very little traction in the wet, causing him to get really sideways and even suffer a lot of wheelspin in a straight line!

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

@@jcgabriel1569 These post-race tales are wonderful and pay even more honour to the spectacular deeds of these pilots 👍

[@puebespuebes8589]

Magnificent car

[@Hackenbaker]

What a wonderful car! ❤

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Oh yes 👍

[@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik]

Vitorio Jano! Presente! 🍀

[@rofufoja]

Love the raw V8 sound of early Alfa monoposto's 😀 And Majzub's commitment of course!

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

You're right about both things 👍

[@ValerioLombardo-q2z]

8 in linea non a v

[@davidhamer8333]

Julian and Gus (on the spanners) always give us a great show. Bravo

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

You're right 👍

[@pascalkal792]

Magnifique ! Tous ces pilotes des temps anciens étaient des guerriers ! Merci !!

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

absolument 👍

[@alberto_davoli]

C’è ben poco da fare e da discutere quando si guarda un Alfa Romeo… Meravigliosa e sexy come poche… Complimenti al proprietario che la sa domare… Non è da tutti saper portare auto del genere

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Si assolutamente. Non me ne vogliano gli amici Ferraristi ma quando si parla degli albori delle auto da Gran Prix, l'Alfa Romeo è per me il massimo, non solo perchè a livello di prestazioni e vittorie hanno fatto la storia, ma guarda anche la raffinatezza tecnica, il motore 8 cilindri in linea con doppio compressore Roots, il tutto con una forma così bella ed elegante. Sicuramente le auto tedesche dell'epoca erano anche più potenti, ma a livello di stile guarda che belle queste monoposto.

[@alberto_davoli]

@@Italiansupercarvideo le auto tedesche anche sul finire del secolo scorso hanno visto solo il posteriore delle Alfa Romeo 😍

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

@@alberto_davoli Alfa e Nuvolari sono stati il connubio migliore che il mondo dell'automobilismo sportivo potesse mai immaginare.

[@mariarusso1325]

Ciao Alberto come stai “😊”

[@anthonypetty9288]

Fabulous sounds. Love the pre-war Alfa racers. Many thanks for sharing. Best wishes from New Zealand.🍀❤️

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Thanks, I love too Pre-war Alfa as I think most of us fans, greetings from Europe 🖐

[@upsidedowndog1256]

What a piece of art! The grill is exquisite. That much power in that light of a car with skinny tires and old timey brakes make that one a handful, then and now. Cool sounds, too. Another great video!

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Thanks, I was sure you would like this video; I think you and I have more or less the same tastes regarding old and glorious racing cars. However, this Alfa Romeo is genuinely extraordinary and was one of the cars I most aspired to film at this edition of Goodwood FOS 👍

[@damianocampana4490]

IL BISCIONE VIVE NEL MIO CUORE.ALFA ROMEO PER SEMPRE.

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Sempre Forza Alfa 👍

[@evansmaniero1173]

Grazie per il video,ragazzi. È l'auto del mio cuore,questa:per me non esiste auto più bella ed affascinante. Questo è il più bel video che la ritrae in assoluto. Grazie infinite!

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Grazie Evans, che bel commento, sono felice di averti dato gioia con questo video. Anche io amo le Alfa Romeo pre e post war 👍

[@VideoDotGoogleDotCom]

Such a beautiful car with an _amazing_ sound.

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

Great awesome footage! Cheers Fabrizio

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Grazie Fabrizio, sono felice che il video ti sia piaciuto 👍

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

Thanks for sharing!

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

Grazie a te amico!

[@mariarusso1325]

Ciao come stai “😊”

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

@@mariarusso1325 Sto bene al momento e così penso di te, ciao

[@sos15_yt]

Cool,the original 8C from pre-war,well,one of the many 8C-powered Alfas (race car included),hence 8C name (otto cilindri)

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Yes, exactly 👍

[@denniswhite9721]

Magnifico! Forza Alfa!

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Forza Alfa sempre 😉👍

[@hoosiercrypto9955]

Beautiful car. I'm from Indianapolis. The old racing capital of the world. The 500 museum has some fantastic old cars like this. Thanks

[@jcgabriel1569]

A sister car of this car is actually in the Indianapolis museum. That one raced at Indy, and if I remember what I read correctly, also driven up Pikes Peak by Johnny Mauro.

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

I'm left speechless at the thought of this powerful GP car driven at Pikes Peak; these are stories and situations from other times. Those pilots were heroes.

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Indianapolis, for a motorsport lover, is the American motor capital. I hope one day to be able to visit it 👍

[@hoosiercrypto9955]

@@Italiansupercarvideo Indiana has some amazing dirt tracks, also. 900hp outlaws that weigh 1400 pounds. And the Indianapolis motor speedway is an amazing place, inside and out. You'll love it

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

@@hoosiercrypto9955 After these further things you wrote to me, I'm sure I would have a lot of fun visiting those places where you can breathe the history of American car racing 👍

[@AndreiTupolev]

You can see the rear end twitching, even on gentle curves. The guts it took to drive those (and still does) at competitive speeds

[@jcgabriel1569]

That's thanks to the swing rear axle. Those things would've made things quite interesting under braking and through corners.

[@pt020]

The Engine sounds so modern.

[@YuriBruschi]

Un mostro per quell'epoca!🍀

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Si, assolutamente. Bellissima ancora oggi, merita tanto rispetto e complimenti al proprietario che la guida come si deve 👍

[@jansz7487]

The essence of sport car.

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Yeah, I love these years 👍

[@lutzhennecke4186]

Geile Technik, so ein Alfa . 😁👋👌👍

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

hahaha, absolut 😄👍

[@dontjivewitha5559]

295hp and 870kg ... What a beautiful car must be so raw and fun to drive !

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

I believe that the owner finds great pleasure in driving it, and I am thrilled that he does it with a certain aggressiveness and not only goes for a walk; this does him credit because I guess it is not easy to tame, but for the audience, it is a joy to see him go so fast 😃

[@jcgabriel1569]

Alain de Cadenet drove that car in his Victory by Design series, and said that it "goes like a rocket". And that is from a man who had raced things like 8C Monzas and P3s in historic racing... Still, in the same episode, he _drove the Alfa Romeo museum's 159M 'Alfetta'!_

[@dontjivewitha5559]

@@Italiansupercarvideo thanks for sharing it and the info I love this era of cars !!

[@dontjivewitha5559]

@@jcgabriel1569 that's just so cool to hear

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

@@jcgabriel1569 Oh damn, the 159M Alfetta, I love that Alfa!

[@marcoilliano2030]

Non sta dritta né dritta né in curva, molti piloti di oggi la giudicherebbero inguidabile, ma è questo il suo fascino 😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

Esatto, questa è un'auto che va domata e per chi ha il piacere di guidarla 👍

[@marcoilliano2030]

@@Italiansupercarvideo chissà quanti cavalli ha ..una trecentina se non di più 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

@@marcoilliano2030 Motore 8 cilindri da 3 litri con 2 compressori Roots, circa 300cv. Peso vettura 870 Kg.

[@anguilla0128]

🤩

[@sandrokeine4365]

🏁🏁🏁🏁👏👏👏👏

[@ThomasD1962]

If only we could make an electric vehicle sound, smell and feel like that...

[@Boy--qn4nl]

Where the car keys?

[@Italiansupercarvideo]

There are no keys in this car; it starts with a starter that goes in the front. This is a racing car.

[@ultimatefreedom6283]

That sound…….wonder if the Argentinian Pur Sang artisans can replicate this car…..

[@jcgabriel1569]

They did. They made one replica of the 308, using as a basis the sister car of this car, which is in Juan Manuel Fangio's museum in Argentina...

[@fernando-calquin-benedetto7245]

Beautiful video, the Alfa Romeo 308 is one of the most beautiful GP cars. I would like to clarify something... all the Alfa 308s were similar in every aspect except for the one owned by Oscar Alfredo Gálvez (which is the one preserved in the Juan Manuel Fangio Museum) since this one was not 3.0 liters but rather left the factory originally as 3.8 liters, meaning it is the only one of its kind in the world. Here I leave the link to a video that I uploaded of a GP in Argentina in 1947 in which you can see three Alfa Romeo 308s, by Oscar Alfredo Gálvez of 3.8 liters, and those of Chico Landi and Achille Varzi of 3.0 liters. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHarn3uqr8aohqM The Retiro street circuit had an extension of 2.41 km, completing fifty laps, totaling 120.5 km. The fastest lap was held by Achille Varzi in 1m 06s at a speed of 131.45 km/h In this original 8mm footage, you can distinguish the following cars/drivers: - nº28 - Alfa Romeo 308 - Achille Varzi (Écurie Naphta Course - Formula Libre). - nº20 - Alfa Romeo 308 "50017" - Oscar Alfredo Gálvez (Escudería YPF/Cerveza Quilmes - Formula Libre). - nº16 - Maserati 4CL "1583" - Luigi "Gigi" Villoresi (Scuderia Ambrosiana - Formula Libre). - nº6 - Maserati 6CM - Giacomo Palmieri (Scuderia Enrico Platé - Formula Libre). - nº24 - Alfa Romeo 308 - Chico Landi (Escudería Francisco Landi - Formula Libre). - nº2 - Alfa Romeo 2900A - Italo Bizio (Escudería Italo Bizio - Formula Libre). - nº26 - Maserati 8CL "3034" - Pascual Puópolo (Escudería San Isidro - Formula Libre). - nº49 - Graham - Eusebio Marcilla (pseudonym "Emart" - Mecánica Argentina Fuerza Libre). - nº22 - Maserati 6CM - Raph (Écurie Naphta Course - Formula Libre). Final classification: 1st Luiggi Villoresi (Italy) - 1h 04m 11s 2nd Achille Varzi (Italy) - 1h 04m 12s 3rd Boy Landi (Brazil) - 1h 04m 38s 4th Giacomo Palmieri (Italy) - 1h 04m 43s 5th Pablo Pessatti (Argentina) - 1h 04m 53s 6th Italo Bizio (Argentina) I thank Juan Carlos Pérez Loizeau for having made his film and photographic archive of world and Argentine motorsports available to me.

[@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik]

I hope that one ended up in USA, have no chromed wire wheels... 🙄

[@jcgabriel1569]

One of these actually is in USA, at the Indianapolis museum. That car ran at Indy 500 several times in the late 1940s...