1938 Alfa Romeo Tipo 308 (8C-308) Pre-War Grand Prix Car - 3.0-Litre Straight-8 Roots Supercharged

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@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
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@shanehnorman
@shanehnorman 8 ай бұрын
The driver looks to be Julian Mazjub, an Iranian whose family moved to the UK several decades ago. The tear-it-up, smoking-tyres, tail-whipping style is his trademark. He's about 70 and best-known for his bravado in his own Bugatti Type 35B. As a septuagenarian myself, he's a hero of mine.
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, he's the one behind the wheel 😉👍
@Smudgie
@Smudgie 5 ай бұрын
He's an exceptional driver and has amazing car control. Not always the fastest but always one of the most exciting to watch. He also owns and drives a Sunbeam Indianapolis.
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 4 ай бұрын
​@@Smudgiehe is fast, it's just that he seems to like cars that are a handful to drive... That Alfa, the Sadler-Chevrolet...
@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik
@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik 8 ай бұрын
Vitorio Jano! Presente! 🍀
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 2 жыл бұрын
My heart skipped a beat when I saw this!!! Majzub's 308C is the only one in private hands, and the remaining one still actively raced. These cars used the chassis frames of the older Tipo C 8C-35 GP cars, which you have covered a few years ago (in which I also made a comment in!) This is what I knew of them so far... As you said, they only made 4 308Cs. One burned out at Pau in 1938, when a defective fuel tank mount sprang a leak which was then ignited by the hot exhaust, prompting Tazio Nuvolari to jump off the car at speed. That episode ultimately caused him to leave Alfa Romeo. The remaining 3 cars got raced in 1938-39, without much success, as the car was basically a stop-gap model, Alfa Romeo pining its hopes on the 12-cylinder 312, and even the 16-cylinder 316 instead. Then there's also the 158 "Alfetta", which most likely further reduced the focus on the 308C. Ultimately, the remaining 3 cars got sold. One ended up in he United States, where it was raced at Indy and even on Pikes Peak. That car remains in the USA, as part of the Indianapolis museum collection. The second car, ended up racing in Argentina, ultimately bough by Juan Manuel Fangio, and is currently displayed at Fangio's museum in Balcarce. The third car, ended up in Brazil, and many years later, that car was then found, sold to the UK then Julian Majzub bought it and restored it back into original...
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, Julian Majzub _really sent it!_ At the Sunday shootout, he posted a 59.68 second run!!! A sub-60-second run, on a pre-war car!!! And I loved that bit at 5:07, the P3 and the 308C side-by-side.
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for reporting the history of these cars that I knew in part but not wholly. Your comments are always a great source of cultural enrichment for me, and I appreciate the time you take to write. I was sure you would like this video. I have spent a lot of time filming the beautiful pre-war cars because Goodwood is one of those very few occasions where I can see them. In the following weeks/months, I will be releasing more videos.
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcgabriel1569 That's what I like about Julian Majzub, the fact that he honours this beautiful Alfa-Romeo by driving it as befits a racing car. Compliments for the splendid weather obtained 👍
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 2 жыл бұрын
@@Italiansupercarvideo He actually crashed that car at Molecomb corner (the corner where you filmed it at 2:05 and 4:17) several years ago, when the car jumped out of gear while he's braking. Goodwood, a year or so back, streamed some old footage from Goodwood Revival. One of which is the 2010 Goodwood Trophy for pre-1952 GP and Formula Libre cars. Julian Majzub, who started in 8th place, in the rain, started passing cars until he passed ERA R4D to lead the race. But, as a dry line started to appear little by little, the ERA drive, Mac Hulbert, tried a brave move to re-pass Majzub, regaining the lead. Majzub kept fighting on, and also started fending off Audi driver Frank Stippler (driving a Maserati 8CM very sideways) until the finish. Majzub finishing a close second, Stippler right behind him in third... At the post race interview, Majzub said that the 308C keeps jumping out of gear, so in the race, he just kept it in 4th gear! Frank Stippler, meanwhile, said that his team put new tires for the 8CM for the race, which turned out to be a bad idea when it rained, meaning that his car had very little traction in the wet, causing him to get really sideways and even suffer a lot of wheelspin in a straight line!
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcgabriel1569 These post-race tales are wonderful and pay even more honour to the spectacular deeds of these pilots 👍
@pascalkal792
@pascalkal792 5 ай бұрын
Magnifique ! Tous ces pilotes des temps anciens étaient des guerriers ! Merci !!
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 5 ай бұрын
absolument 👍
@rofufoja
@rofufoja 2 жыл бұрын
Love the raw V8 sound of early Alfa monoposto's 😀 And Majzub's commitment of course!
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
You're right about both things 👍
@ValerioLombi
@ValerioLombi 11 ай бұрын
8 in linea non a v
@alberto_davoli
@alberto_davoli 2 жыл бұрын
C’è ben poco da fare e da discutere quando si guarda un Alfa Romeo… Meravigliosa e sexy come poche… Complimenti al proprietario che la sa domare… Non è da tutti saper portare auto del genere
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Si assolutamente. Non me ne vogliano gli amici Ferraristi ma quando si parla degli albori delle auto da Gran Prix, l'Alfa Romeo è per me il massimo, non solo perchè a livello di prestazioni e vittorie hanno fatto la storia, ma guarda anche la raffinatezza tecnica, il motore 8 cilindri in linea con doppio compressore Roots, il tutto con una forma così bella ed elegante. Sicuramente le auto tedesche dell'epoca erano anche più potenti, ma a livello di stile guarda che belle queste monoposto.
@alberto_davoli
@alberto_davoli 2 жыл бұрын
@@Italiansupercarvideo le auto tedesche anche sul finire del secolo scorso hanno visto solo il posteriore delle Alfa Romeo 😍
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
@@alberto_davoli Alfa e Nuvolari sono stati il connubio migliore che il mondo dell'automobilismo sportivo potesse mai immaginare.
@mariarusso1325
@mariarusso1325 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao Alberto come stai “😊”
@Hackenbaker
@Hackenbaker 7 ай бұрын
What a wonderful car! ❤
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 7 ай бұрын
Oh yes 👍
@pt020
@pt020 Ай бұрын
The Engine sounds so modern.
@davidhamer8333
@davidhamer8333 2 жыл бұрын
Julian and Gus (on the spanners) always give us a great show. Bravo
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
You're right 👍
@sos15_yt
@sos15_yt 2 жыл бұрын
Cool,the original 8C from pre-war,well,one of the many 8C-powered Alfas (race car included),hence 8C name (otto cilindri)
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly 👍
@puebespuebes8589
@puebespuebes8589 6 ай бұрын
Magnificent car
@anthonypetty9288
@anthonypetty9288 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous sounds. Love the pre-war Alfa racers. Many thanks for sharing. Best wishes from New Zealand.🍀❤️
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I love too Pre-war Alfa as I think most of us fans, greetings from Europe 🖐
@denniswhite9721
@denniswhite9721 26 күн бұрын
Magnifico! Forza Alfa!
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 25 күн бұрын
Forza Alfa sempre 😉👍
@damianocampana4490
@damianocampana4490 3 ай бұрын
IL BISCIONE VIVE NEL MIO CUORE.ALFA ROMEO PER SEMPRE.
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 3 ай бұрын
Sempre Forza Alfa 👍
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 2 жыл бұрын
You can see the rear end twitching, even on gentle curves. The guts it took to drive those (and still does) at competitive speeds
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 2 жыл бұрын
That's thanks to the swing rear axle. Those things would've made things quite interesting under braking and through corners.
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom 10 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful car with an _amazing_ sound.
@fabrizioviscardi40
@fabrizioviscardi40 2 жыл бұрын
Great awesome footage! Cheers Fabrizio
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Grazie Fabrizio, sono felice che il video ti sia piaciuto 👍
@fabrizioviscardi40
@fabrizioviscardi40 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@fabrizioviscardi40
@fabrizioviscardi40 2 жыл бұрын
Grazie a te amico!
@mariarusso1325
@mariarusso1325 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao come stai “😊”
@fabrizioviscardi40
@fabrizioviscardi40 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariarusso1325 Sto bene al momento e così penso di te, ciao
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 2 жыл бұрын
What a piece of art! The grill is exquisite. That much power in that light of a car with skinny tires and old timey brakes make that one a handful, then and now. Cool sounds, too. Another great video!
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was sure you would like this video; I think you and I have more or less the same tastes regarding old and glorious racing cars. However, this Alfa Romeo is genuinely extraordinary and was one of the cars I most aspired to film at this edition of Goodwood FOS 👍
@YuriBruschi
@YuriBruschi 2 жыл бұрын
Un mostro per quell'epoca!🍀
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Si, assolutamente. Bellissima ancora oggi, merita tanto rispetto e complimenti al proprietario che la guida come si deve 👍
@jansz7487
@jansz7487 2 жыл бұрын
The essence of sport car.
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love these years 👍
@evansmaniero1173
@evansmaniero1173 2 жыл бұрын
Grazie per il video,ragazzi. È l'auto del mio cuore,questa:per me non esiste auto più bella ed affascinante. Questo è il più bel video che la ritrae in assoluto. Grazie infinite!
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Grazie Evans, che bel commento, sono felice di averti dato gioia con questo video. Anche io amo le Alfa Romeo pre e post war 👍
@hoosiercrypto9955
@hoosiercrypto9955 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. I'm from Indianapolis. The old racing capital of the world. The 500 museum has some fantastic old cars like this. Thanks
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 2 жыл бұрын
A sister car of this car is actually in the Indianapolis museum. That one raced at Indy, and if I remember what I read correctly, also driven up Pikes Peak by Johnny Mauro.
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm left speechless at the thought of this powerful GP car driven at Pikes Peak; these are stories and situations from other times. Those pilots were heroes.
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Indianapolis, for a motorsport lover, is the American motor capital. I hope one day to be able to visit it 👍
@hoosiercrypto9955
@hoosiercrypto9955 2 жыл бұрын
@@Italiansupercarvideo Indiana has some amazing dirt tracks, also. 900hp outlaws that weigh 1400 pounds. And the Indianapolis motor speedway is an amazing place, inside and out. You'll love it
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
@@hoosiercrypto9955 After these further things you wrote to me, I'm sure I would have a lot of fun visiting those places where you can breathe the history of American car racing 👍
@marcoilliano2030
@marcoilliano2030 4 ай бұрын
Non sta dritta né dritta né in curva, molti piloti di oggi la giudicherebbero inguidabile, ma è questo il suo fascino 😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 4 ай бұрын
Esatto, questa è un'auto che va domata e per chi ha il piacere di guidarla 👍
@marcoilliano2030
@marcoilliano2030 4 ай бұрын
@@Italiansupercarvideo chissà quanti cavalli ha ..una trecentina se non di più 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 4 ай бұрын
@@marcoilliano2030 Motore 8 cilindri da 3 litri con 2 compressori Roots, circa 300cv. Peso vettura 870 Kg.
@lutzhennecke4186
@lutzhennecke4186 2 жыл бұрын
Geile Technik, so ein Alfa . 😁👋👌👍
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha, absolut 😄👍
@dontjivewitha5559
@dontjivewitha5559 2 жыл бұрын
295hp and 870kg ... What a beautiful car must be so raw and fun to drive !
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that the owner finds great pleasure in driving it, and I am thrilled that he does it with a certain aggressiveness and not only goes for a walk; this does him credit because I guess it is not easy to tame, but for the audience, it is a joy to see him go so fast 😃
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 2 жыл бұрын
Alain de Cadenet drove that car in his Victory by Design series, and said that it "goes like a rocket". And that is from a man who had raced things like 8C Monzas and P3s in historic racing... Still, in the same episode, he _drove the Alfa Romeo museum's 159M 'Alfetta'!_
@dontjivewitha5559
@dontjivewitha5559 2 жыл бұрын
@@Italiansupercarvideo thanks for sharing it and the info I love this era of cars !!
@dontjivewitha5559
@dontjivewitha5559 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcgabriel1569 that's just so cool to hear
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcgabriel1569 Oh damn, the 159M Alfetta, I love that Alfa!
@ultimatefreedom6283
@ultimatefreedom6283 4 ай бұрын
That sound…….wonder if the Argentinian Pur Sang artisans can replicate this car…..
@ThomasD1962
@ThomasD1962 Жыл бұрын
If only we could make an electric vehicle sound, smell and feel like that...
@anguilla0128
@anguilla0128 2 жыл бұрын
🤩
@fernando-calquin-benedetto7245
@fernando-calquin-benedetto7245 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, the Alfa Romeo 308 is one of the most beautiful GP cars. I would like to clarify something... all the Alfa 308s were similar in every aspect except for the one owned by Oscar Alfredo Gálvez (which is the one preserved in the Juan Manuel Fangio Museum) since this one was not 3.0 liters but rather left the factory originally as 3.8 liters, meaning it is the only one of its kind in the world. Here I leave the link to a video that I uploaded of a GP in Argentina in 1947 in which you can see three Alfa Romeo 308s, by Oscar Alfredo Gálvez of 3.8 liters, and those of Chico Landi and Achille Varzi of 3.0 liters. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHarn3uqr8aohqM The Retiro street circuit had an extension of 2.41 km, completing fifty laps, totaling 120.5 km. The fastest lap was held by Achille Varzi in 1m 06s at a speed of 131.45 km/h In this original 8mm footage, you can distinguish the following cars/drivers: - nº28 - Alfa Romeo 308 - Achille Varzi (Écurie Naphta Course - Formula Libre). - nº20 - Alfa Romeo 308 "50017" - Oscar Alfredo Gálvez (Escudería YPF/Cerveza Quilmes - Formula Libre). - nº16 - Maserati 4CL "1583" - Luigi "Gigi" Villoresi (Scuderia Ambrosiana - Formula Libre). - nº6 - Maserati 6CM - Giacomo Palmieri (Scuderia Enrico Platé - Formula Libre). - nº24 - Alfa Romeo 308 - Chico Landi (Escudería Francisco Landi - Formula Libre). - nº2 - Alfa Romeo 2900A - Italo Bizio (Escudería Italo Bizio - Formula Libre). - nº26 - Maserati 8CL "3034" - Pascual Puópolo (Escudería San Isidro - Formula Libre). - nº49 - Graham - Eusebio Marcilla (pseudonym "Emart" - Mecánica Argentina Fuerza Libre). - nº22 - Maserati 6CM - Raph (Écurie Naphta Course - Formula Libre). Final classification: 1st Luiggi Villoresi (Italy) - 1h 04m 11s 2nd Achille Varzi (Italy) - 1h 04m 12s 3rd Boy Landi (Brazil) - 1h 04m 38s 4th Giacomo Palmieri (Italy) - 1h 04m 43s 5th Pablo Pessatti (Argentina) - 1h 04m 53s 6th Italo Bizio (Argentina) I thank Juan Carlos Pérez Loizeau for having made his film and photographic archive of world and Argentine motorsports available to me.
@sandrokeine4365
@sandrokeine4365 2 жыл бұрын
🏁🏁🏁🏁👏👏👏👏
@Boy--qn4nl
@Boy--qn4nl 2 жыл бұрын
Where the car keys?
@Italiansupercarvideo
@Italiansupercarvideo 2 жыл бұрын
There are no keys in this car; it starts with a starter that goes in the front. This is a racing car.
@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik
@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik 8 ай бұрын
I hope that one ended up in USA, have no chromed wire wheels... 🙄
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