1963 Judo VS Boxing (Gene Lebell VS Milo Savage)

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[@bashlivingstonstampededojo882]

R.I.P judo gene

[@fortitudinemethonorem4088]

He passed away??? Wow. A true legendary American marital artist. Rest in peace Judo Gene Lebell.

[@sabojezles]

This is why grappling and ground fighting game is always most effective, you can take down bigger stronger guys and submit and control them on the ground if you know the fundamentals, judo, jiu-jitsu, sambo, etc., are amazing.

[@iga279]

unless you get punched on the nose first by the likes of Mike Tyson;

[@sabojezles]

@@iga279 Indeed.

[@donaldduke2233]

A true legend. I sit here weeping as I'm hearing about his passing. I'm sure in the heavenly dojo he's kneeling at the joseki side of the tatami. Thank you, Chadi, for passing this information on to us.

[@dianecenteno5275]

First televised MMA fight! Also rumored the Savage had put something in his gloves to make them heavier

[@AztecUnshaven]

any actual proof of this aside from Gene claiming it?

[@dianecenteno5275]

@@AztecUnshaven none that I know of. Only rumors from Gene and supposedly his team.

[@AztecUnshaven]

@@dianecenteno5275 Gene told a lot of tall tales.

[@shevetlevi2821]

Great narration. RIP Gene Lebell

[@bhiei]

Rip, I still have a couple books from Sensei LeBell, he was as big in personality as he was with his unique and insightful grappling techniques. One of my Judo instructors Sensei Raven 7th Dan (also Rest In Peace) was his student

[@MrWayne1701]

RIP Judo Gene, your name will shine forever!

[@emoryandrewclay]

“Toughest Man Alive”… God Bless “The Chairman of the Board” Sensei Judo Gene LeBell. Now the Toughest Man in Heaven.

[@uwemaxjensen3028]

Thank you for posting, Chadi

[@greenstreet5287]

Best story I’ve heard about gene is how he made sensei seagal shart his pants

[@beskeptic]

Nice video! Didnt know Lebell had passed. Thank you for the video Chadi!

[@dominicrossitto5890]

A true legend and pioneer, Gene LeBell. 🥋 And another great video.😎

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

A modern equivalent of this 'Judo vs Boxing' match is Yoshihiro Akiyama's matches against Francois Botha (IBF Heavyweight Boxing) and Michael Larma (WBC Middleweight Boxing). Akiyama was also a Judo contender in MMA like Yoshida. My channel has those two footages and it's on my latest vid (title: Judo Champion VS Two Boxing Champions).

[@ewbruddauh21]

New sub, nice content

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

@@ewbruddauh21 Thanks.

[@teovu5557]

the same guy that was rumored to make steven segal poop in his pants with a choke!

[@QuantumPyrite_88.9]

Not a rumor.

[@teovu5557]

@@QuantumPyrite_88.9 good thing segal was wearing brown pants that day.

[@emoryandrewclay]

True Story…ask me how I know…

[@AztecUnshaven]

@@emoryandrewclay Lol let me guess, Gene told you and Gene NEVER lied, right? Smh

[@AztecUnshaven]

That story was debunked 100 times already by ACTUAL WITNESSES. Do people even care about facts and reality anymore? Conrad Palmisano and Steven Lambert are still alive and have talked about this extensively.

[@fredazcarate4818]

Chadi thank you for honoring the memory of Gene Label. 🙏

[@WLowry]

Great video & R.I.P Judo Gene

[@combatprinciplesmma]

The stipulations that went into this match are absolutely legendary. The boxer had Vaseline all over it so it would make it harder to grab and even tried to bring in brass knuckles

[@emoryandrewclay]

Exactly

[@AztecUnshaven]

The brass knuckles claim is dubious. Gene always adds extra sauce to his stories.

[@emoryandrewclay]

@@AztecUnshaven as far as the brass knuckles go…we weren’t there so we don’t know…but you are now calling the man a liar. That is not cool because he is not here to speak for himself, however if you actually watch the full fight when Savage punched him at his waist line the belt ripped in half. That’s on video.

[@AztecUnshaven]

@@emoryandrewclay Sir this would not be the first time he lied, as he lied about choking out Seagal as well.

[@emoryandrewclay]

@@AztecUnshaven 😂 Now I know you are kidding me. I wasn’t there. I love Steven Seagal. Great actor and an awesome martial artist.

[@NoelleKim]

It's LeBell! Gene was a stickler about how his name is spelled... I am the Noelle Kim who helped write and title Gene's book The Godfather of Grappling.

[@sergiobacellar5570]

The best KZbin Channel

[@codenameconovers3398]

Man bro I love your channel so much , so full of knowledge

[@Chadi]

I appreciate that!

[@niceguy6152]

Why is it that whenever judo players fought other styles they either tried or did make the opponent wear a gi?

[@fikriasrofi5312]

I do boxing myself (with Muay Thai and BJJ) and I think it a big no no to fight high level grapler with only boxing knowledge

[@connorperrett9559]

We know that now but the mid 1900s was an odd time for martial arts.

[@martinlaser7819]

Jon Bluming developed a mixed combined system of strikes, throws and groundwork. He called it Kyukushin Budokai. I don't know if Chadi has already made a video about this in this frame. It belongs to this judo complex. Gene LeBell was honored by his organisation with the 10th Dan. I have no idea what degree Gene had in Kodokan, in America (California) of course he got 10th Dan. Jon had respect for Gene's personality and his shown choke.

[@mcmc1863]

La belle actally kept the JJJ in his judo, hence his hands up, natural stance. Judo was originally used for JJJ in sport, took the throws, trips etc out of JJJ, everytging but the the striking (feet and hands)

[@graciescottsdale]

@4:03 - I believe this is an air choke (radial bone across the trachea). @4:19 - I believe this is a blood choke (compressing the carotid arteries).

[@patmark3059]

Pray the chaplet of Divine mercy for Gene

[@jeffgoesrandom4217]

Lebell claimed he could beat Bruce Lee once he got his hands on him. Bruce Lee said yes, but he would not let Gene get his hands on him...that Taran-liar recent film was filled with lies. Bruce Lee trained with Gene Lebell and learned grappling techniques from him. Lebell taught Bruce Lee, in other words. They worked in films together and Lebell is credited with helping Bruce. There was not an adversarial relationship.

[@ortho-g9826]

Gene taught Bruce judo and ground techniques and grappling. There is video footage of Bruce and Gene doing stunt sequences with judo. Nice.

[@jeffgoesrandom4217]

@@ortho-g9826 That is true. Something Taran-liar did not want to show or talk about.

[@7-_Kh]

Отличная работа, дружище. Спасибо за популяризацию нашей БОРЬБЫ. Удачи и здоровья.

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

Here are some dubious statements from Jim Beck who was the boxing columnist who started this challenge match between boxing and Judo: "Judo...is a complete fraud...Every Judo man I've ever met was a braggart and a showoff...Any boxer can beat a judo." "Judo bums, here me one and all! It is one thing to fracture pine boards, bricks and assorted inanimate objects, but quite anothee to climb into a ring with a trained and less cooperative target. My money is ready. Where are the takers?" Source site:

[@Mataninja]

Obviously the man was confusing Judo with Karate....

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

@@Mataninja Ikr, Jim knew nothing about real Judo. I suspect those "Judo bums" he met were the guys from American Kenpo Karate, which is a bizzaro knockoff of Karate and Chinese arts. And who was the guy who first told Gene Lebell about this challenge? It was Ed Parker who founded that art.

[@ClydeRowing]

@@combatsportsarchive7632 I believe Ed Parker recruited Gene for this bout, rather than do it himself. Too busy showing his yellow belt skillz in the I Love Lucy episode of the same year. Judo and Karate were thought to be pretty much the same thing back in the day, in fact the organisers forbade Gene from kicking.

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

@@ClydeRowing Yes, he was the one according to that online source I mentioned. I've seen old and new footages of American Kenpo. There is a lot of weird stuff about it like those insanely complicated forms. Parker's sparring footages don't seem to be as good as the technical guys from Japan Karate Association nor the power strikers from Seidokaikan Karate.

[@aaronmoreno8918]

Me and my Baby Brother had the privilege of being trained by this Man in the North Hollywood Gym, called Hayastan MMA Academy where Sensei Gokor Chivichyan teach’s and the home of Karo the Heat Parisian and Ronda was going there for a time. At the time, Sensei Gene was in his mid 70’s chucking and throwing guys around and wrestling with them too! He was amazing 🥲

[@SoldierDrew]

Chadi, thank you so much. This is an outstanding video breakdown of a legendary bout testing Judo against a professional heavy weight boxer. The pro boxer soaked his gi in Vaseline to make grip fighting the gi impossible. And he separated the padding in gloves to make punches more penetrating and had knuckle dusters on underneath his glove. He tried to kill Judo Gene Labell in the ring using these dirty fouls but Judo still proved superior and he went to sleep. At the time not everyone in America was familiar with vascular neck strangles to merely render a man unconscious and some of the spectators believed Gene Labell had killed the boxing champ so they nearly rioted until the pro boxer came back around and proved unharmed. Judo Gene Labell also publicly grappled a full grown black bear using his Japanese Judo & American Catch Wrestling. And he pinned the bear. After he friendly challenged Jun Fan Bruce Lee and submitted him the actor & Chinese boxing teacher began studying grappling from Judo Gene Labell and later show cased some of that training in the opening fight scene against Samo Hung in the film Enter The Dragon 🐉when he defeated Samo Hung with Newaza.

[@thomasturner4253]

That was a great fight RIP Judo Gene

[@CuchulainAD]

RIP Mr. LaBelle.

[@cahallo5964]

I love tai otoshi if you let go of Uke you can punch him at the same he lands, very crushing! and it also allows for a very easy knee on belly (I know you can't punch people on Judo but I learnt the throw in Karate)

[@mikegreen5502]

R.I.P. GENE 😢😢😢😔😔😔

[@CommunismiEstCacas]

People criticize Gracie Family and the Vale-Tudo created by them. They lie telling Gracies made rules to cheat the fights, or they argue Gracies seleted weak fighters in the first UFC but everyone here praise Gene Lebel fighting a smaller boxing fighter wearing a gi, what a bunch of hypocrites.

[@sandblastskin]

Gene was a legitimate tough guy. He could back up his words! R.I.P. Gene

[@cavalheirosolitario1815]

Acho que esse vídeo deve ser dos anos 60 , o judô estava bem em alta naquela época nos Estados Unidos e no Brasil. Pois é, já tinham desafios entre lutas bem diferentes? Um MMA daquela época?

[@davidtice4972]

Master of Kenpo Ed Parker picked Gene Lebell over everyone to fight a boxer in a boxer vs a martial artist challenge. He didn't pick Chuck Norris, Karate Joe Lewis or Bruce Lee or fight himself he picked Gene LeBell the toughest man.

[@gokor356]

3:22 The second throw was a Harai-goshi, not a Tai-otoshi. For Tai-otoshi, the attacking leg is firmly planted to the ground whereas in Harai-goshi, your weight is on the back leg while the attack leg reaps in sync with a semi hip load. Gene's attacking left leg did slightly touch the ground, however, you can see how it functionally worked as a reap as he pulled the opponent onto himself following the turn.

[@cavalheirosolitario1815]

Se o judoca conseguir se esquivar bem dos socos do boxeador e conseguir agarra-lo já será um começo pra vencer a luta.

[@armandoestebanquito21]

Gene lebell is the beast 🔥

[@gayan369]

Beautiful

[@peacecrewproducts]

R.I.P Gene LeBell

[@guerrilla1044]

What a shame all we have is this edited footage

[@0b3ryn29]

Do some breakdowns of judo throws used in adcc

[@cavalheirosolitario1815]

Nos anos 50 e 60 as artes marciais não eram conhecidas pelos os ocidentais, nos Estados Unidos e no Brasil o judô era a arte marcial oriental mais conhecida, o boxe era uma febre. Nem o termo " arte marcial " se conhecia, lutas como o jiu-jitsu, karate, taekwondo, kung fu, muay thai, hapkido , o povo nem sabia o que eram.

[@Saitoshiba]

Wait, is that sasae while throwing yourself as a sutemi is another aplication of yoko gake? I have been doing this for years and was always confused what it was called because it's not a uki waza nor isn't a yoko otoshi. So me and my sensei never was able to pin point the name of this. I always thought it was some creation of mine.

[@Chadi]

Now you know;)

[@Saitoshiba]

@@Chadi can you send the link for the application of this different version of yoko gake? All that I find is the basic version.

[@Chadi]

@@Saitoshiba kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIWzqayemd5np9U

[@Jr-qo4ls]

Two very different forms of self defense but complementary when combined, think Sumo.

[@wacobob56dad]

Seems the boxer made judo concessions by wearing a top to grab.

[@syu1958]

柔拳ってやつですね。明治以降日本でも盛んに興行やったと記録されてます。

[@richardnieto1423]

Great man in all honesty training in Japan After the war going All the way r I p

[@fatherson6022]

Noooooo didn't know R.I.P. Mean Jean Lebbel

[@georgeszaszvari3108]

A nice tribute to the legendary Gene Lebell, thank you. Don't you think these style v style contests only ever prove anything about the individuals engaging with each other, not really anything useful about whether one "style" is better than another? What is your opinion of that 1976 Ali v Inoki fight (refereed by Lebell)? Too many artificial rules IMO. An interesting area of research might be in how experienced hard nosed competitive MAists became such ardent students of the mature Morihei Ueshiba... not much talk of lack of pressure testing or resisting partners in those days: challenges were met and duly dealt with... similar to how Taijiquan has recently lost credibility as an effective combat system since Mad Dog Xu Xiaodong has been wiping the floor with so-called traditional MAists in China, but nobody bad mouthed Taiji when Cheng man-ching was around and successfully met all challenges... now Cheng man-ching v the Mad Dog would have been an interesting challenge!

[@user-md5hz2wv5u]

Рубашку боксёру одели, наверно чтобы каратисту было удобней его захватывать и бросать.

[@LIbertyorDeath419]

RIP, Judo Gene.

[@aymanabaza6475]

He was a great Judoka/Grappler. I wonder if there's a video or pictures of him choking out Steven Seagal

[@moonsdonut5188]

I had this discussion yesterday with a teakwondo guy he said I could never get close enough to grab him he would knock me out before I grabbed him I can't believe people still think that lol😂 that is why the Gracie defeated so many

[@QuantumPyrite_88.9]

It was Lebell who made Seagal look like a total fool.

[@Mataninja]

People nowadays should already know that pure strikers will always lose to grapplers.

[@moonsdonut5188]

@@Mataninja peach MA brother

[@Titan500J]

I agree. I got my Black Belt in ITF Taekwondo a few years ago. I also have a brown belt in Judo and Aikido which I earned in the seventies. My Sensei back then taught both Judo and Aikido and was also a high ranking Ballroom dancer among other things. If you displayed your ego while training there you paid for it in pain. People bragging about themselves is very unwise, being true or not! Best to you

[@Anonymous-yh4ol]

It's a proven point whether the striker has the skills or not. At least 2 of Rhonda Rousey's matches has shown that. It's what led to losing her winning streak. The Gracies weren't fighting the strikers of today. It's why the Gracie's return fight to UFC failed. Nothing is always.

[@Barisdagame]

Did gene win this one?

[@mrmhayes9361]

This fight happened because people thought judo was for bums and boxing would win easy . Milo also had dusters under his glove 🥊.

[@armondoserna2342]

I love ❤️ Japanese culture so please!They have the best cars,meat and cat videos.Please send me some

[@fernandohsantos]

May Gene rest in peace. But honestly, what are the odds of this fight have being staged? Notice at the beginning of the video that Gene is walking sideways towards Milo's right arm; this is something that if you do to a boxer you'll soon get a cross to the face; it's just something not done.

[@martinlaser7819]

In the past film people were sometimes also good in real life. Gene LeBell ? Was he the last?

[@Chadi]

I’m not entirely sure

[@martinlaser7819]

@@Chadi You are right. Gene Le Belle did not show much seriously. So you must rely practically on just one fight, which he won against the boxer Milo Savage by choke.

[@andersonsantossug7845]

Quando lutador de boxe, eu toparia o desafio sem tendências! Não seria inocente ao ponto de usar luvas e, muito menos kimono para favorecer o judô.

[@rwdchannel2901]

Of course the boxer is going to lose because the format was set up for a grappler to win. Let them do anything the way it was done by ancient Roman gladiators and then you'll have a real fight, but that would be banned really fast after someone died.

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

rom experience, bare fists can work 1 of 2 ways in a fight, to your advantage in grabbing and gripping and blocking, and to your disadvantage if you’re a moron and throw a heavy punch at a guys forehead and you break your hand… person dependant. I’ve broken my hand but I am neither judo or Boxing, I am Shinkyokushin Karate.

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

@@tatumergo3931 One can do it, but you have to commit and often it is more aimed at the shoulder to disrupt balance and rhythm of your opponent. An issue with that; you get called and penalised for pushing if your punch is more of a push. Osu.

[@dandruff7807]

In this video the boxer 'appeared' to be wearing a gi or other clothing on his upper body? Wearing clothing on the top does allow a judoka to have hand grips to perform a throw or take down. 'Possibly' the outcome would have been different if the boxer were bare above the waist"? 'If' Milo Savage were to meet Gene Labell a year later for a rematch the outcome 'may' have been different? I was a judoka for ten years but never thought that judo was the superior martial art. At any given day one martial art could be the dominant one over another. Which martial art is best has always been controversial.

[@emoryandrewclay]

Womp womp…sound like a Charlie Brown character. Another 🤡 just like Michael Myers. Put some respect on the name. Could’ve, Would’ve, Should’ve. Guess what the results speak for them selves. Grappling, Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Sambo, Wrestling are all very COMPETENT martial arts. If you look at the UFC statistics they show that the most amount of UFC titles have been held by wrestlers, followed by BJJ, the rest are split up between Muay Thai and Boxing. Come on guys the truth is when comes to LeBell vs Savage read Gene’s book The Toughest Man Alive. There is a lot more to this story than a boxer putting a Gi on and getting choked out. Furthermore Gene LeBell mother Barbara Eaton was the HEAD of The Boxing Commission on the West Coast in the 50’s , 60’s, 70’s. Gene LeBell was a very formidable FIGHTER had experience training with Marciano, Muhammad Ali, Robinson and many another World Class Boxers.

[@rye-bread5236]

Just wear an everyday outfit and fight. Like jeans and a t-shirt

[@emoryandrewclay]

@@rye-bread5236 or why not completely nude like the Roman Gladiators.

[@MizanQistina]

There are many factors but being unprepared is one of the key. In the old times, there was no internet, fighters at that time have less knowledge about different martial arts. And I believe nobody have access to spar with people of different martial arts. Today, with the help of the internet and martial art world is wide open, fighters today know what to expect or have certain knowledge or ideas about different martial arts even if they don't learn them. Personally, my highschool have different martial art clubs and my country is multiracial so i gain access to different martial arts through my school/college friends. I spar with them, arguing and testing...and this is in the 90s. I doubt fighters in the US or western countries have the same access as I have especially in the 50s-80s. What I mean is, if you know your opponent are ignorant of your fighting style, you can manipulate the rules of the duel to favor you when you challenge them in those days, forcing them to sign the contract to follow your rules. But if it is a real fight, you won't dare to challenge any martial art in their own schools, because you yourself is ignorant of their styles. Today, you might be brave enough because you have all the conveniences to study them first.

[@emoryandrewclay]

@@MizanQistina Excellent…very sound and educated response. You still need to read the book “The Toughest Man Alive” to receive the true knowledge and background story of this fight.

[@The-Contractor]

Gene over powered him. He was just too strong for Milo to handle and Milo wasn't a street fighter wearing gloves. I would have liked to see Mike Tyson in his prime go against a heavy weight Olympian Judo guy in his prime. That would have been gold for sure.

[@smokingjazz5067]

😭RIP gene labelle

[@user-me4im6vs5e]

이소룡빨지마라의 주인공인가?ㅎㅎ

[@rustyshackleford735]

Boost

[@dimitrioslambrinakis3677]

What a crap they have put on a gi to the boxer so the judoka can grap him it was all fixed the boxer must took lots of money and last thing boxer is wearing gloves that's the most fixed figth I saw in my life

[@jeffnorris8848]

In real life most people have clothes on. Gloves help the boxer. Hitting people with just your fist hurts

[@shuhsak]

The result would have been the same without the gi. If it's a street fight, the boxer wins. But in a duel, Judo has a far greater advantage. A judoka's physical strength is incomparable to that of a boxer.

[@kywalsouza]

A dumb boxer, he went to fight a judoka wearing a type of kimono wearing his upper body, should have gone only in shorts. He wanted to see if the judoka could hold the boxer wearing only shorts.😄

[@mofogie]

Gene : (

[@jayephbee]

😢 The first story I heard of LeBell was him choking out seagal. God bless that man & I hope it’s true.

[@louisferrigno1655]

Nul pourquoi mettre un haut de kimono à un boxeur pour favorise le judoka

[@joej3096]

The poor boxer died there in ring and they just left him there in the ring. It was the janitor who called the morgue after every one left the building.

[@norberto169]

Videos like these make me know boxing is useless

[@connorperrett9559]

Go to a local MMA club and ask for a sparring match with someone who will only use boxing. I think you'll be speaking a different tune after that. No need to denigrate other arts. I've trained boxing and judo and love them both, and both of them have made me a better fighter.

[@kagetora246]

明らかに柔道家のほうが体が大きい。ボクサーに柔道着を着せている。どう考えてもボクサーが不利。 しかし、ボクサーのパンチが遅く、現役とは思えない遅さであることから、これは、柔道家が主役で、ボクサーは引き立て役のような試合で、おそらく真剣勝負ではない。 はじめから柔道家が勝つ前提で仕組まれた試合と思われる。

[@ironmikehallowween]

This is probably one of the most citied and useless examples of the differences between two sports. It’s almost as ridiculous as the Ali vs Inoki. He was wrestling, the other guy was boxing. If it was old style boxing, before all the rules were set up banning wrestling, choking, eye gouging, kicking, bare fist, etc., which were all legal at one time, we all know what the outcome would be. Boxing eliminated all those things to highlight a certain skill set and make watching it more entertaining. This kind of nonsense just needs to go away as it means absolutely nothing.

[@mikekempf1456]

"if he did a completely different martial art he would've won!"

[@emoryandrewclay]

Michael Myers it must be Halloween again because the clown is out to play. You don’t know how to lace your boots or tie your shoes. If you knew the “Toughest man Alive” he would have had you urinate all over yourself.

[@jackgene4565]

You don't need to tell technic of Judo, Boxer wear gown,,, Make sense ??? Also, Different weight ,,,,Nonsense game !!!

[@leedutch5155]

Boxer was wearing a gi so not really relevant