1964 10 04 Mets vs Cardinals OTR Broadcast (Harry Caray & Jerry Gross)

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[@thomasholden3820]

I was listening to this broadcast on 1280 WGBF AM radio in Evansville, Indiana an affiliate of the St. Louis Cardinal radio network on a bakelite 1950s Zenith tube table radio. I was a big time Cardinal fan. This was just a few weeks before I turned 14. What a weekend! The pennant possibilities were really wild. I never missed Cardinal game and that weekend was no exception. I was hanging on every pitch. Really really an incredibly exciting series!!! This was when baseball was still baseball, baseball uniforms were made out of linen and flannel not plastic, and Harry was at the peak of his powers, Busch Bavarian Beer, and the Cardinals were still playing in old classic Sportsmans Park (Busch Stadium). Oh to see the old right field pavilion again! Miss those times a great deal.

[@john8762]

Growing up in Evansville in the 60's and 70's, summer evenings meant my Dad would be sitting on our back porch, listening to Harry, Jack and later Mike Shannon on the radio. I still prefer to sit on my porch and listen to the Cards on the radio. Really going to miss Shannon after this season.

[@maverick1956hk]

What great memories! I’m a Whitesox fan and I’ll never forget when I was 14 and heard Harry for the first time in 1971. What a refreshing breathe of air Harry was compared to Bob Elson!! He was a genuine fan and spoke his mind about a game or player, JUST LIKE A REAL FAN WOULD. Every game was exciting, especially if you were in contention!

[@larryloveless2967]

This is sure a great find. Born in 1953 in St. Louis I remember being in our backyard throwing a ball against the porch steps with the transistor radio on loud. Cards came from way back to pass the Phillies, but then the Mets played the Cards very tough, and the Reds almost won the pennant. I sure remember that Friday night game preceding it when Al Jackon beat Bob Gibson 1-0. I relive these games playing baseball strat-o-matic as I have the 1964 Phillies, Reds, Cards, and the New York Yankees. If the Reds had won this day, there would have been a three way tie with the 3 teams. The Yankees also had a comeback versus the Sox and Orioles. My favorites baseball book is October 1964 by David Haberstam.

[@larryloveless2967]

Correction. Should have said if the Cards had lost to the Mets with the Philliis winning there would have been a 3 way tie for first. Interesting the Reds manager pitched John Tsitouris instead of Jim Maloney this day. The Orioles got a bad break in the AL pennant race when Boog Powell was injured. The Sox had great pitching but were weak hitting. The Yankees did have good balance. Mel Stottlemyre made them even better. Whitey Ford got a sore arm in the Series and Ramos their good reliever ineligible. The Cards though missed Javier who in 1967 1968 was a great hitter in world series games so Maxvill played second base later the shortstop on those teams.

[@jeffking291]

Harry Caray‼️ A St.Louis Legend. I’m old enough to remember him‼️ ( That’s OLD❗️). 📻🙂

[@onyxfelix303]

I know it's pretty off topic but do anyone know a good place to stream new movies online?

[@theodoresilas1200]

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[@gwakpyunghwa]

This is a treat. Harry Caray - his enthusiasm for the game was infectious. -1980s Cubs fan.

[@davidkaiser]

It's very sad that this broadcast misses the last two innings. What a day. I remember watching some of the Reds-Phillies on TV and I could hardly stand it it was so exciting. The whole weekend was unbelievable, starting with Gibson losing 1-0 to Al Jackson on Friday night.

[@maverick1956hk]

There is a audio out there with the complete game

[@bandteacher9386]

@@maverick1956hkdo you have the link as tried to find to no avail

[@larryloveless2967]

I really liked Jack Buck as the Cards announcer; however, listening to this game brings back why I grew up being such a baseball fan in St. Louis. Harry Caray makes it so exciting.

[@alexvokoun9272]

As a Cubs fan who adores Harry Caray, I’m really enjoying listening to him in his prime and being able to call a winner, even though it’s for the Cardinals lol

[@billslocum9819]

The New York Mets were playing meaningful October baseball for the first time in their young history, albeit as spoilers. The Cardinals needed to win just one of three home games against the Mets to clinch the NL, and lost the first two. So it was all down to this game, and what happened with the Phillies in Cincinnati. Harry Carey really works the crowd in this game, through the magic of transistor radios and remote reports from Roy May at Crosley Field.

[@rentslave]

The NY Daily News' baseball writer,Dick Young,was in CINCY for that game.Afterwards he said:"That's the first time I've covered TWO losing dressing rooms."

[@timrobinson7373]

I love the fans who have their radios on 1 is to listen to Harry Carey 2 is to hear the update on the Phills game so i would think there are over 20-25 thousand radios on in the park that's why i hear that whistle going through sometimes its the feedback from all the radios on

[@501764727]

Brewers fan lol..... hate both the Cards & Cubs but as a baseball enthusists and remembering following Harry on WGN back in the 80's- I can Def appreicate this. Cool to hear the younger sounds of Harry Caray.

[@8avexp]

Had the Mets won this game, the 1964 National League season would have ended in the three-way tie for first place.

[@maverick1956hk]

8avexp I always wondered how the playoff format would have been conducted.

[@alpineinc1]

@@maverick1956hk Not easily. Per St Louis Post-Dispatch 10/4/64, with a 3-way tie a team would have had to lose twice to be eliminated. It would've started on Mon 10/5 with Reds at Phillies, then Tues 10/6 Cardinals at Reds, then Wed 10/7 Phillies at Cardinals. If any team lost 2 by that point, the remaining 2 would have done a new draw until one lost 2 games total. If none lost 2 by that point (all 1-1), there'd be a new draw to determine the first 2 to play again, eliminating one of them, with the other playing the 3rd for the pennant. The World Series (which did start on 10/7), would have had to be moved up, with one off day planned after the playoff ended.

[@maverick1956hk]

alpineinc1 Thank you for those details. It sure would’ve been interesting to watch that unfold, if it had really happened.

[@martinfelsenfeld6012]

That was the game that eliminated the Phillies who were six games ahead--then lost ten in a row! Our California Lottery, by contrast, lost 59 jackpot drawings in a row since last June (if you follow our lottery drawings in Cali--lol)! The 1964 Mets were last under CaseyStengel by contrast.

[@terrihenricks4160]

Casey Stengel returned as Mets manager at the start of the 1965 season (per the plans he discussed on the pre-game interview at the start of this broadcast). He broke his hip on July 24 when stepping out of a car. He was fitted with an artificial hip, but announced his retirement from baseball on August 30. He said he had to retire because he could no longer run after the umpires to argue with them.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

@@terrihenricks4160 And Stengel was succeeded as manager at that time by Mets coach Wes Westrum (who during the game being broadcast, as Caray mentions, was coaching at third-base).

[@williamdunphy352]

KMOX in St. Louis.

[@terrihenricks4160]

The last two innings of this pennant-clinching game are missing. However, it is worth listening to hear Hall of Fame broadcaster Harry Caray at his peak. Another real treat is the pre-game interview with Mets Manager Casey Stengel.

[@randywheeler1436]

For those who only know Harry Caray from the Will Farrell impersonation, this shows Harry at his best.

[@globalnettuber]

@@randywheeler1436 Will Ferrell imitates how Harry looked and spoke after he suffered from a stroke, but continued to work.

[@randywheeler1436]

@@globalnettuber That's the point. For all those who only know Harry from the 90s, this shows him in his prime.

[@douglaslowe5]

Cool to hear sober young Harry before he became drunk cartoon Cub fan bud man!

[@byrd56]

2:22:36--One of Harry's famous home run calls.

[@robertw.8757]

Too bad the recording is incomplete but interesting to hear Harry Carey as I remember him as a kid. No Jack Buck who was probably on NFL duty, and Harry mostly ignores sidekick Jerry Gross.

[@thomaswolf723]

Its would have been hard to believe in 1964, but Jack Buck eventually surpassed Harry Caray in popularity in St. Louis as a play-by-play announcer and personality.

[@martinober249]

I am pretty sure Jack Buck was doing an NFL game on CBS that day

[@ronmackinnon9374]

Bottom of the first, Caray gives a shout out to the Cardinals' scoreboard operator, Lou Adamie (26:11).

[@williamdunphy352]

Umpires HP Ed Vargo 1B Al Forman 2B Bill Jackowski (CC) 3B Shag Crawford

[@dallasheltzell]

Are the last dramatic innings of this pennant-clinching game available somewhere, other than just the highlights on the commemorative album?

[@ronmackinnon9374]

There are a couple of video clips (overhead shots and not well-focused, unfortunately) towards the end of this video on the '64 season: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXnHc4h9n52BlZo At 1:17:31, Brock scoring and White going into third on Boyer's double in the bottom of the 5th (the hit that tied the score 3-3 and knocked Cisco out of the game). Then at 1:18:04, Kranepool hitting a foul pop-up to McCarver for the final out of the game.

[@rentslave]

Why were the Reds and the Phillies off on that Saturday?Was Crosley Field needed for another event?

[@randywheeler1436]

Except for a 5 year period from 2006 to 2010, KMOX 1120 has been the home of the Cardinals. KMOX FM is now KLOU 103.3 and owned by a different company.

[@randywheeler1436]

Mike Shannon has been on the Cardinals radio broadcasts since 1972. Mike only does home games since about 2013.

[@williamdunphy352]

KLOU is owned by iHeartMedia. KMOX is owned by Entercom (aka radio.com)

[@williamdunphy352]

Harry Caray & Jerry Gross on the Cardinals Radio Network.

[@terrihenricks4160]

Yes, Jerry Gross was the backup man behind Harry Caray and Jack Buck on the Cardinals broadcasts at that time. Jack was probably gone doing a football game that Sunday. Jerry would normally only appear for televised games (which were limited to a handful of road games). Jerry would do the pre-game and post-game shows on television and a few innings of play-by-play on radio, as Harry and Jack alternated between the TV and radio booths. Jerry was also the radio voice for the St. Louis Hawks of the NBA during those years.

[@globalnettuber]

@@terrihenricks4160 Yes. Jack Buck was Harry's regular broadcast partner. Jerry was filling in for Jack who was doing NFL games on TV for CBS. And I really enjoyed Jerry Gross doing St Louis Hawks NBA games on the radio.

[@thomaswolf723]

@@globalnettuber Gross was an excellent NBA announcer when he worked with another excellent announcer, Bud Blattner.

[@fatfreddyscat5767]

Jerry was voice of the expansion 69 Padres..left after 71 season when Jerry Coleman took over.

[@bandteacher9386]

Anybody have the link to the complete game broadcast?

[@steveprestegard5151]

Harry talks to the crowd at 15:31.

[@maverick1956hk]

Steve Prestegard That was so cool

[@ronmackinnon9374]

So many transistors tuned in around the ballpark that it results in feedback when the door to the booth is opened, which you can hear at 50:06, 50:12, 50:46, and 51:24. Jerry Gross comments on it at 50:23.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

A huge cheer goes up (57:44) when the crowd gets the update over their transistors that the Phillies have taken the lead over the Reds.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

Mets third-baseman Charlie Smith homers in this game, giving him 20 (the most he would ever hit in a season). After the 1965 season, the Cardinals would acquire him and pitcher Al Jackson (who'd beaten the Cardinals 1-0 in the first game of this series) from the Mets in exchange for Ken Boyer. Then, after the 1966 season, the Cardinals would trade Smith to the Yankees in exchange for Roger Maris, who would be a part of their 1967 and 1968 championship seasons.

[@JL-vs2zh]

Roger Maris went 3 for 19 with a walk & a double for the Cards in the '68 series loss to Detroit. My most exciting childhood baseball memory is watching Game 7 on a little black-and-white TV in gym class (on a Thursday I believe, 10/10/1968). My coach (Mr. Pearson) was an avid baseball fan so it was required watching in lieu of dressing out!