1964 Road America 500 Part 2

[@pete5534]

Fantastic footage. So enjoyable.

[@adunn8245]

Some times it's nice to look back on these old races

[@timkern2436]

Incredible to see Jim Hall working on the brakes, just as he's out of the car. Wouldn't you love to be the guy in the Cortina, watching out for the monsters to come by, every three laps or so?

[@dadatschool]

Penske's Corvette is a Grand Sport. Great seeing one of these in their earliest races.

[@earli3693]

Lots of us grew up with this kind of race coverage: men, machines, drama, and excitement. Why didn't they leave it alone?

[@adunn8245]

Eveyone was like "To the future"

[@8.2deck]

It wouldn't be so bad but rules ruined everything

[@dogdad1777]

Why didn't they leave it alone? Maybe because too many drivers died? Mostly no harnesses (lap belts in some cases, shoulder belts in one car), no guard rails so cars suddenly enlisting in the Forest Service was pretty common, huge fires in even fairly minor crashes, etc., etc.

[@UberLummox]

Ferrari 250 LM....just too damn pretty to race, yet win. Love the headlight covers on the Corvette GS and that V8 sound.

[@tsf5-productions]

Woops! "The Captain" overshot the road course. Well...not all drivers in any era have 100% perfect records. And the reason for Penske's overshoot? Brakes. O.K. I loved "Sport & Speed News" man (and ABC-TV Wide World of Sports commentator) Chris Economaki [who passed away in 2012 at 91 years old]. His directive delivery of getting to the point made literally any person he interviewed a pleasure.

[@ricksmith7357]

The driver seem to sit more on the cars than in the cars

[@thomasnixon7702]

Amazing. Total lack of basic safety. The pits are gravel and not separated by any barriers. I forgot how much improved are tracks like Road America. Biggest good thing is the commenting which doesn't have the modern "Murikan chauvinist boosterism.

[@christianponicki9581]

Thomas Nixon American chauvinism? I've never encountered that in a commentator before but I've seen it from British commentators more times than I can count. Funny thing is that no one criticizes them for it but they go bat-shit crazy if an American says anything which could be interpreted as "nationalistic".

[@caribman10]

What was "basic safety" on a 1964 race course, may I ask? The haybales at British and European tracks? "Basic safety"? We used to stand 2 feet off the edge of the back straight at Bridgehampton and watch the race. With all the "safety" since then, drivers still die in accidents. Please watch this with a view towards what was real back then, including the fact that probably 80% of the males in the crowd actively smoked cigarettes. Was that "safe"?

[@violentshemp7776]

roger with 2 set of goggles!

[@thomasnixon7702]

What's a Chevette? A Chev v8 in a British chassis -- Cooper??

[@caribman10]

Bob McKee designed American rear engined race car. The first use of that name, I think. Dick Doane was a Chevy dealer, I think.

[@dougdoane9304]

@@caribman10 Yes. My Dad, Dick Doane, designed the Chevette with Bob McKee. It was a rear-engined, tube framed, aluminum bodied design. Unfortunately, Jim Hall and the Chaparrals, with their focus on aerodynamics, made it obsolete within a year. Dad would sell the Chevette to an amateur SCCA driver in 1965 and retire from racing. McKee built a couple more Chevettes, one that Jerry Hansen bought and raced in SCCA races. Dad always regretted that he never trademarked the name.

[@naughtmoses]

Ferrari: By 1964, over 30 years' experience setting up Alpha Romeos and building their own cars to tolerate the abuse of going 1000 kms or 12 hours or 24 hours on rough country roads. Ford and Porsche finally caught up a few years later.

[@craigyirush3492]

naughtmoses Alfa not Alpha! And the Cobras would’ve beat Ferrari in the FIA GT championship this year if Ferrari hadn’t cancelled the race at Monza. The Cobras won it in ‘65.

[@8.2deck]

How does a car need 14 quarts of oil

[@bloqk16]

The engine could be a _dry sump_ system, where the oil tank is separate from the engine block. The additional oil could be needed for cooling and the size of the oil cooling system with its plumbing.

[@thomasnixon7702]

Johnie?? Miles. Maybe Ken Miles? Later killed testing the shitty Ford J-car.

[@violentshemp7776]

every car was "shitty" till they work out the bugs. and that is what he was doing.

[@Brodasco]

That's not a gran sport vette.

[@caribman10]

Yes it is.....

[@carzohoracing]

@@caribman10 Nope. Only 5 Grand Sports were made and none of them raced as coupes then.

[@chrispat7579]

@@carzohoracing - Only two were cut to being open roadsters, the other three remained coupes.