1965 Dodge Coronet 500 vs. 1995 BMW M3 - Generation Gap: Coupes

In the latest episode of Generation Gap, Davin and Matt choose their favorite performance coupes. Requirements: two doors, four seats and plenty of scoot. Davin picked a Dodge Coronet 500 with a 383 V-8 engine, and Matt chose a BMW M3, equipped with a 3.0L straight six. Which would you pick?
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[@FBFerran]

M3 is a better car. Dodge is cooler. You go for the looks? the dodge. You go for the high performance? M3 all the way.

[@fellowship_of_the_goat]

except for straight lines, the M3 will get shat on unless it's been turboed

[@FBFerran]

yeah, that's true, but here in europe you don't have long straights unless you're on the highway so yeah, m3 ftw! lol

[@FIFAracer]

Zachary Tan the bmw is faster

[@WisdomVendor1]

Tell you what junior,, lets take those exact same cars and face them ass to ass and tie the rear bumpers together, wait, do bmw's have bumpers,,,, anyway,,, then let's see who drags who. That's a REAL drag race ! THAT IS PERFORMANCE !!

[@WisdomVendor1]

Also, if you can turn, you are going too slow.

[@noredcr]

Both are nice cars, I feel like true car guys can actually appreciate just about any car for what it is.

[@JUlCEBOX]

let me guess, the winner will be the dodge. why do they even talk about performance? they might as well just talk about the way the cars look because thats all people seem to care about.

[@donnie7693]

I choose what I would rather own and drive. That just happens to be the dodge. I think its just that there is a bigger fanbase of american muscle, not lbased on any facts just an assumption since the vote never seems to be close.

[@GeneralCondom]

so far M# is winning on the poll

[@alecmnastase]

How

[@gokartbuyer]

well if everything was based off performance do you think ANY old car would win? The dodge handles like a boat and drinks more than my alcoholic father. It's a mix of styling and performance. The M3 utilizes more plastic which saves weight making it accelerate faster, handle better, and cheaper. Now the dodge is mostly steel and is built like a tank, it will march on for years but, suffers in performance compared to the BMW. Now I could drive that M3 all over and maybe 2 people would notice. If I drove that Dodge people would stare and take photos. The car represents a generation that has passed, it represents quality before quantity, when a man could get off from work and go to the garage and make adjustments and perform services. It was man and machine. You and 383 V-8 monster with a four on the floor and tires to burn. Now some BMW's don't even have a dipstick.

[@JUlCEBOX]

gokartbuyer cool story bro.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

GREATLY Improve this show by racing them in a mile (also check 1/4 times) and doing a slalom and a circle "G" tests.

[@DennisEdlund99]

WTF mopar is the beast car!! No one can say one fu'king bad looking BMW looks and goes better. MOPAR IN MY HAAAAAARRRTT!!

[@crunchymexican2910]

Mopar or No Car

[@DennisEdlund99]

That was she said to :D Noah Schut

[@paulrodriguez300]

Noah Schut Mopar = My Old Pig Ain't Running lol..... just messing around.... I love all muscle cars dont matter the make, even tho i grew up a chevy guy

[@3rdGenGuy]

PLZ stop posting these videos. it hurts to watch.

[@Loafy23]

I hate to be negative but I also have to be honest about the way I see this show. First off both guys come across as somewhat douchy fanbois. Davin more so than Matt but both to some degree. That douchiness softens somewhat as the show progresses but it's always present. That doesn't endear either host to me. It's a subjective comparison between apples and oranges and ultimately doesn't add anything to automotive journalism. They drive the cars around a bit, bash each others preferences and give little ground. It comes down to what each person likes more than anything and that really doesn't say much about the cars but more about individual's likes/dislikes. More than anything though the show feels forced, scripted, and boring. Take the cars to the track, take 'em to a 1/4 or 1/8th mile strip and put them through their paces. Take them to a cruise in or a car show or some sort of get together and see what other people have to say about them. Just do something entertaining.

[@ruobe1]

I was thinking the very same thing lol

[@OviWanKeno9i]

I back this up as well. Will raise your budget but make it an actually decent show. Also put some newer European muscle cars in there like some big AMG Mercs... those rumble!

[@MarchuxProductions]

Why no E46? The best M3 ever made!

[@alkoyyy]

+MarchuxProductions certainly the most overhyped one...

[@MarchuxProductions]

Matthias Schmitt Which one is better, then?

[@alkoyyy]

MarchuxProductions better in what way?

[@MarchuxProductions]

Matthias Schmitt Best balance between the engine's power and chassis, looks and sounds great, is about the right size. Drives great as well, and has the mighty S54. Has just about the right amount of sportiness and luxury. What I'm saying is that it's the best all around.

[@alkoyyy]

MarchuxProductions "...and has the mighty S54" well that's obviously only the e46. As for the rest: all M3's do all of that well. I personally prefer the e36.

[@RtdXyron]

BMW might be the ultimate drivers car if you dont mind driving around in a brick...

[@RtdXyron]

BMW doesnt know what round is... Look at the dodge from the front even... More circles and round edges there than on the whole of BMW...

[@leok8183]

RtdXyron having round edges doesn´t mean it´s aerodynamic. e36 drag coefficient is about 0.30, while i imagine the Dodge is about 0.70 or worse.

[@everx7]

RtdXyron Theres not only this M3 u know ? There are other types of BMW, they know what round is, btw this dodge hardly recognizes corners so

[@RossMKF1]

RtdXyron This Dodge is a brick its a piece of crap on the corners proven by this video, the Bmw would kill this on a track.

[@nem1]

***** Corvettes handle with the best out there, and consistently put down faster lap times. European sports cars are more expensive, and a lot of that money goes into handling. They're great, but dollar for dollar (euro, pound) american cars handle just as well.

[@SteveGOML]

You guys don't have to dislike because it was boring. Give advice on how to make it more entertaining next time. If you were true Motor Trend fans you wouldn't of disliked. Anyway both cars are great but any Skyline would've been a better choice. But they're not legal in N/A so I understand why. RX7 maybe?

[@matrox]

I was a kid in 65' in 2nd grade . I wasn't a fan of Mopar styling then. But they do look badass with the proper rims and setup like this one. In 65' I was more into Fords and GM cars, the 57 Chevy in back then was a big favorite. I just stared at them with envy when sitting next to one at a light. Ironically my first non hand be down car that I bought was a 69' Ply RoadRunner in the mid 70s. My how things change. Currently drive a 17' SS Camaro 6 speed. Loads of fun that will run circles around todays BMWs in performance and handling.

[@S3M1ninja]

For me it's the Mopar mainly for the sound and feel of the engine in them they make you feel something under the hood and to me that's more enjoyable but it wouldn't be a bad thing to get it to corner like the BMW :-)

[@AKhellbindeR]

I want those 13 minutes and 3 seconds of my life back.

[@fikes73]

I had a muscle car in HS, and now own a e36 M3. Yeah the muscle car is louder and got more attention (dodge challenger) but the M3 is no joke. It is subtle till it blows your doors off. Stock they run to 60 a little over 5 sec, and go over 150mph. With some mods, they give e46's a run for their money. The are also track monsters, because they are light and have torque

[@SmileyLegoGuy]

Yeah I got one, took it to the track and gave vettes a run for their money. Until the straight of course, in which case the ZR1 blew MY doors off

[@XxThatMOPARDudexX]

they dont have much torque, so personally i wouldnt say you could claim that as a attribute

[@StratTheKonvict]

tom neve Compared to a four banger they have torque. Compared to most other European cars they have torque. To compare an E36 M3 to a '65 Coronet on torque alone is borderline moronic, so for you to say that the M3 having more torque than most other EU manufactured vehicles isn't an attribute is like saying "The L85A2 has the capacity to feed from 60 round magazines, thirty more than a comparable rifle like the Steyr AUG but I'm going to pick an FN Minimi because it can feed from a disintegrating belt of 200 rounds" without taking into account the fact that carrying the Minimi is like carrying a brick shit house with your hands alone. More of one thing isn't necessarily better if you sacrifice everything else in order to attain it.

[@TMWNN78]

I've driven a friends E36 M3 and while it has a really nice interior to sit in I have to admit I wasn't impressed with how it piled on speed. My mildly modified 250hp at the wheels turbo forester feels a hell of a lot quicker from the drivers seat.

[@Euphorica]

Nic Wechter 250 whp is more than the e36 m3 makes especially stock.

[@reidclag]

These videos are getting much better over time.

[@fatoputso7375]

The E36 m3 is a very underrated car. Most people speak poorly on em for not having the itb's Europe received however owe it to your self and drive one. They are a blast.

[@chemicalsr20]

too bad you dont have the REAL e36 m3. 3.2L with 320hp. but its not only the engine. its everything. wou would be suprised how much difference there is from the us spec and europe m3 the us m3 is just a tuned 328i.

[@bryandoherty9399]

That's stupid. I guess I'll have to import a euro spec E36 M3 to get the good car

[@ljessecusterl]

You say that till you have to work on a VANOS system. More trouble than it's worth. The E36 M3 is a fantastic-handling car, regardless of market and one hell of a fun drive, even in US-spec trim.

[@chemicalsr20]

yeah nou doubt. the us m3 is a great car. just like my 328i but its just not a real M ;) its like the new M235i . it also has an M badge but ists not a real "M"

[@bryandoherty9399]

brann1999 What is the VENOS system? Something related to the ECU? And yea I know there so fun to drive regardless of market. dri fter I'd love to have a M235i it sounds like such a fun little car. I'd love to have a 328i E30, but if I can't find one I would go with a 328i E36

[@Euphorica]

dri fter everything? lol ok bro

[@MyDriverX]

M3 all the way

[@phillipm7178]

The ding when Matt turned the key, and that all familiar purr... Reminds me of my '94... I love my BMW...

[@joylynnsmith2620]

hahaha love the banter between these "Matt" and "Davin" characters :)

[@wademckenney6610]

who else rewinds the vid over and over just to here the dodge start and run

[@canzy28192]

Personally i like the E36, but it's probably the least loved M3 of the bunch, for various reasons. I think an E46 would have been a much better choice.

[@IsiahHD]

Or the E30

[@canzy28192]

True, but i guess the E30 is too old for the purpose of this show

[@fikes73]

E36's kill it at the track. E30s had to start dropping in the straight 6 to keep up. They are easier to work on then the e46, plus have more low end torque

[@CustomBudd]

MOPAR OR NO CAR! I like how all these comparisons are between to really different cars. Awesome series guys, keep it going

[@metvelle]

those are the best coupes you could think of, I understand a m3 but the old lackluster one? and a 65 coronet? I like mopar but would rather see a 69 charger, or even GM 69 camaro, 70 chevelle..

[@joedavis2692]

Should have been an E30 M3 vs a 'Cuda, Camaro or Mustang.

[@STAG162]

If you're going to speak into the microphone, make sure it's the one that comes out the centre speaker. You guys are making a mockery of anyone's 5.1 surround sound system and degrading the sound quality of the videos by switching sound channels.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I love classic cars, but that Davin guy really gets under my skin, so freakin' annoying, lol.

[@everythingautomotiveeta5839]

subaruwrxfan when the other guy askes od its goinf fo sounds like "potato potato potato" lmfao but dude davin gets under my skin as well wntirely too biased.

[@matrox]

@@everythingautomotiveeta5839Davin is the cool one, the dude with the glasses is annoying.

[@Daehawk]

As a kid in the 70's my granny had a Coronet 500 4 door. That thing was a rocket and she had a lead foot.

[@grim3965]

I just wished they compared cars completely stock...but anyway, I don't get how who ever thought of this series didn't understand that the old will always win! It don't matter if it's American or German or Japanese or w.e, old cars will always be more fun. New cars are good as every day drivers bc of the safety systems and traction control and blah blah but for fun, the older cars are the best. They're literally just a motor put on wheels that u need to control. They may not always be the fastest but are the most fun to beat on...older cars will always win generation gap

[@sackboy946]

m3 all the way

[@BlitzkriegRap]

People take sides so easily lol, both are great cars and I would like to have them!

[@smohan123]

They're getting better much better at this thing! Nice job, guys.

[@SpacemanXC]

You could give me either one and I'd be happy. Also, dat 512 in the background. Mmmmm, it's so wonderfully 90's.

[@Oliver01958]

That Dodge is one bad Mother, and sounds like a Tiger.

[@AlexDotchev]

the M3 is just boring like its nothing exciting theres no character its just an ordinary car youre used to seeing ... the dodge is just like way too good and way better than the BM like hands down

[@Euphorica]

Sasho Dotchev. ya a 3 generation old m3 is just like everyday car. totally bro . Seem them like corollas.

[@AlexDotchev]

nah im good SmileyLegoGuy and no i dont mean that exact model i mean the way the car looks ... Euphorica

[@BlackKronix]

Oh yeah the more "like"s you add the more appealing your argument is.

[@AlexDotchev]

im not trying to agrue anything ... im just stating my opinion... BlackKronix

[@WHO9119]

Sasho Dotchev. The Dodge is like the car you drive on the weekend you store it in the garage with a car cover the M3 you drive that every day leave it on the street even though you have the space in the garage for it but your afraid it might scratch the Dodge.

[@AllAmericanBeaner68]

I used to be like the guy with the Coronet but I'm glad I changed my perception and can enjoy both cars. A true car person can appreciate any good car.

[@mtothem1337]

For me the the dodge is more of a cruise car for show, while the BMW is the better car in terms of handling and feel. Both are good but they are in two diffrent classes.

[@Capitalistic_Commie]

Black 1969 Charger man, bring it.

[@NBSV1]

The banter just ruins this show. Neither of them are able to pull it off, so they should just stick to more technical aspects and stay away from trying to be funny.

[@Dethmeister]

The old classic cars are going to win these every time but I've liked all the cars featured so far. Most car guys will know and like both of these.

[@cuda426hemi]

Well since I'm a Mopar guy, and my first ride was a '68 Coronet 500 (rare!!) and the 2nd was a brand new 'Cuda - this is a no brainer. The two aren't even in the same class. Every single friend of mine that owned BMW has ditched BMW garbage because it lasts up to the warranty barely and then it breaks down. All have Lexus and Tesla now. Me? I want my ol' '74 'Cuda back; last year they made them, paid $4k from showroom, worth at least $25k now.

[@alyssasimoes3443]

Hello! I sent a message to you about an article I am working on about the Palace Theater, I am hoping you'll see it and this reply as a reminder to see it. Thank you. -Alyssa Simoes Waterbury Republican-American

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

These guys are like The Three Stooges, but minus the smart one !!!!

[@clu4u]

Yuk, yuk, yuk!

[@butlerproman]

Please don't insult the Three Stooges by suggesting that these guys resemble any of them. Well, unless you're comparing them to Joe Palma or Joe Besser, that would be a fair comparison.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

butlerproman Please accept my apologies, Butler, I did not intend to cast any aspersions on the Three Stooges.

[@butlerproman]

MrKeyboardCommando I do agree with your sentiment, however. I was watching their "banter" and wondering if they had laboriously written out a script beforehand and were now mechanically reciting the lines. I like the premise of the show, but it is so lackluster. They tootle along on public roads at a leisurely pace, accelerating moderately on occasion to get a rumble out of the engines. Their personalities project neither wit nor charm. Their interaction is wooden. They talk about significant differences in the cars in terms of performance, but nothing they do demonstrates those differences.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

butlerproman You're being too kind to them, they're cringeworthy.

[@Siriuscsy]

most awkward hosts of all time...

[@ITS4390]

Fun example of track style muscle, my buddy's dad had a 400 tri power Gto back in the day, first thing he and his buddy did to it was go find a wrecked Lemans and swap the drums for the Lemans 4 wheel disc setup, as well as swapped the springs with stiffer ones off a short bed pickup in the back. And they did this in 77......

[@B25gunship]

I had a 65 Coronet 500 back when I was in the Navy and for a year as a civilian. White with black interior and 383 cube V8. Classic straight line American muscle. Handled like a boat but those pipes sounded ever so sweet. Mopars back then just had this I'm not the prettiest girl at the dance but better not mess with me attitude.

[@lefixuss4208]

WHY THOSE GUYS TEST CARS ON OPEN AND STREIGHT ROADS ? do u knw corners ? handling ?

[@TheLeGeNdPvE]

Can you guys please do more than slowly drive each others cars... Its boring the show won't last you must do at least a head 2 head drag race... 1/4 mi... What's it gonna take 10-18 seconds I mean come on... And I would appreciate seeing awesome cars such as Supra TT 300Zx TT RX-7 TT GSX T Acura NSX Integra type R S2k I mean shit even a prelude SH all kinds of fun awesome quick cars.

[@donnie7693]

What would be the point if a drag race? We all know who would win the drag race.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

Also the show is sponsored by an insurance company. The last thing they would want you to do is to race your car, do burnouts, or god forbid go over the speed limit! :0

[@brownbabywipes6459]

Nivlac57 MCM is sponsored by an insurance company, everyone has seen what they do to their cars.

[@asdjfnljn3]

If this show were in anywhere but the US, the old school American cars would never stand a chance.

[@williamberger2178]

It is interesting that you would choose these two cars, both "sleepers" of different eras. Both require an educated eye to recognize how special each one is. My brother helped build a 69' GTX, that was in Hot Rod magazine and I was impressed, but I must vote for the BMW. The age of the Dodge makes it collectable now, but the BMW still needs time for that kind of recognition. I am of the generation of the 50's and cars of the late sixties will have a place in my heart, but by the mid to late 70's BMW was quietly tearing it up in europe, and eventually got the respect they deserve. This is my first vote for Matt.

[@TheBen0913]

The Dodge is clearly better, but the voting will be go to the M3 because of the BMW fan-boys.

[@6pwnxD]

Old american cars is a rolling deathtrap.

[@number3665]

Not if you can drive! I don't need computers to run my life lol

[@SmileyLegoGuy]

Noah Schut That German shit can blow your doors off just with gearing and cornering, no extra power needed. Now wouldn't that be embarrassing, your V8 being destroyed by a 5000 dollar i6 track car.

[@number3665]

SmileyLegoGuy That is actually just a bad rumor. Many muscle cars actually corner amazingly well even with the old technology. If you have a driver that knows what he's doing there is no problem. As far as gearing there are so many different transmission and rear end gear options on muscle cars that any type of comparison without real world testing would just be bullshit.

[@crunchymexican2910]

exactly. the charger in 1969 came with three different rear end gear types. as for transmissions, they are extremely interchangeable.

[@number3665]

Noah Schut Yep and any of them could be bought as an option back then. You could get a base trim model with barely anything on it, the biggest engine they offered, transmission of your choice, and rear gears you desired without question. All of that plays into how the car runs and drives and so does the driver. You can't customize new cars to that extent and with all the computers they basically drive themselves. Regular shifting and power shifting make a whole lot of difference. But guys that don't really know cars wouldn't understand that =P lol.

[@matthewwoollard5540]

I dont see why people say Bmws are exspensive to run. Far from it. There are so many forums to assist and clubs. They are popular do parts are ok in the price department. Bmws from this year are very reliable and easy to work on. Even its electrics. Its very easy to get parts for them too, even the old ones. So bmw should of got aleast 1 point. :)

[@NTW64]

The Coronet 500. There are quite a few other classics I would pick first but I would be proud to drive that car.

[@pbfloyd13]

I love how the old dude makes up stupid reasons not to like the m3. I know he specializes in pre 1974 cars but does he even grasp the concept that auto companies kept making performance cars after 1974. His attitude might just be an act for the show, but he can't seriously be a gear head and not know anything about modern performance cars like this m3. PS he's really starting to piss me off with his "everything was better back in my day" arrogance.

[@asdjfnljn3]

I also don't understand why the modern dude isn't going all out in picking his car such as E46 M3 or 911 turbo. In the Corvette episode, he could of chose a ZR1.

[@FishFind3000]

Totally agree I though that bringing the E36 was a terrible idea the E46 would have been much nicer it's a great car and if the could have gotten in with the CS package aaaaaaa magic I want one bad this is one I'm my area it's a 06 m3 with CS package it's like the perfect combo last year of producing and best options just it's 26k! Tad high

[@BradTomasEdits]

His attitude is for the show. he has to be stubborn and defend Classics in any way he can while bash the competition. I understand. However, I do like how the younger guy will admit he likes the classics, because I mean who doesn't? I rather them not have kind of fake attitudes trying to make the show interesting and just be open minded and fully enjoy both cars. But there's nothing wrong with a little teasing

[@S10JuMpEr]

Yeah hes forgetting muscle cars like the Buick Regal Grand National and the IROCZ that came out after 1974.

[@mrfordfan]

Austin528 The IROCZ was a laughable attempt at smog performance. The 305 only put out 160 or so horsepower. It was a sticker package, nothing more.

[@davidgregory4602]

Dodge, loved in America but not really anywhere else. It's just not a classic like Camero or Mustang. BMW M3 loved the world over.

[@crunchymexican2910]

The Dodges were built in America for Americans to like. So it kinda makes sense that only Americans like them. Duh

[@liahdfg]

Davin, I agree with you that pre-74 cars are just downright cool, but can we have something on the next show that isn't American? Don't forget there is a rich history of awesome pre-74 cars from around the world: Jaguars, Datsuns, MG, Volvo, Toyota, Honda, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lotus, Mazda, Bentley, Rolls-Royce, Triumph, Jensen, Mercedes, BMW... How about we compare a BMW M3 to a BMW 2002 pre-74? How about we compare a Miata to an MGB? If you're too stubborn to stick to American, how about choosing something from the 50s or 40s? It's almost a complete cop out to solely choose 60s muscle cars. Why not compare an AMC inline 6 sedan to a modern day sedan?

[@coyoteshark]

I owned a 1973 BMW 2002 and after tricking it out was a fun car great pick up and handled corners well. I Drove it From Michigan too California and had to get rid of it because it would not pass Smog. Now I have a 1968 Dodge Polara and love it, it turns heads and handles great in a straight line. I am sticking with Mopar these days.

[@charbre1999]

M3 ;)

[@MoogTheOne]

Next time will you please take the cars to a track? The dodge isn't a performance car, it's the automotive equivalent of a teen pop star. Even in a straight line that m3 would molest the dodge. Did you guys actually research either of these cars before this review? The heritage category should have been m3 all the way. Go read the history of both cars, the M3 is a racing legend and the dodge is a low tier muscle car. When people dream of muscle cars this isn't the car they dream of.

[@BramCollier]

Correct

[@madfiat8932]

Didn't you know that this channel is sponsored by a classic car insurance company? Of course they're going to stack the deck for the classic to win every time! And, if you are rating purely on collectability and appeal to classic car enthusiasts as far as "balls out style", then the classic is *going* to win every time. It's like trying to sell Blue to a room full of Red lovers. Of course they're going to stick with Red.

[@coolstufffordummies2541]

Eric Strickler What are you talking about dude? The 60's Coronets are just as badass as the road runners and the chargers, and for that matter, ANY classic Mopar is sought after. You need to do some research yourself if you think the Dodge isn't a performance car. Mopars ruled the strip from the late 50's through the early 70's for the most part.

[@jeffreytao9744]

I LOVE BOTH!!! 😫 Classic Import and American Muscle

[@alpinestar1982]

"it makes a growly noise not a buzz." lmfao!!!!

[@SubBassFrequency]

Ugh not a real M3, its a US below par version of the 3 series with an M3 badge on it

[@ObsTurdBucket]

SubBassFrequency We know, and that's why america hates BMW.

[@Gewehr_3]

I don't get the hype behind BMWs. They're expensive to maintain, drink gas like a drunk drinks beer (high octane only, mind you!) and are boring to drive. I mean the car does a lot of things decently, good ride, sporty enough, okay power and medicore looks... but it's so boring, I might as well be driving a Civic or Toyota. I'll take a muscle car or any of the BMWs competitors (Mercedes, Jaguar, Cadillac) any day of the week. This is coming from an E46 owner btw

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Drum brakes, drum brakes, drum brakes ... **crash**

[@Gewehr_3]

It's pretty easy to convert drums to disc brakes.

[@adam1othman]

i agree... i generally find this issue with all german cars tbh. There are better european cars out there like italian, british, scandinavian etc... i kind of hate how german cars are so hyped up. if you've driven and owned them you'd know the idea of german engineering is propaganda

[@Exclusivelibary]

Adam Othman well german engineering is pretty damn good compared to all others but they over engineer everything to the point where is stupidly difficult to maintain diagnose and repair. not to mention expensive as platinum

[@adam1othman]

Exclusivelibary you do realize that for a very long time the best automotive engineers have been studying in italy.... and a lot of german cars are actually designed in italian design houses... (and i don't just mean bodies) a lot of the actual german bits is the engine, gearbox, suspension etc... however chassis is italian in origin

[@jasoncarpp7742]

Call me old-school, but I'd go for the Dodge Coronet. I'd upgrade a few things to make it safe to drive today, but I'd generally leave it as stock as possible. :)

[@JacobM5M3]

I'm on my 11th E36 M3 and I currently own 2. one of them being Supercharged and I have a 1971 Monte carlo with a 383ci so I have a passion for both.

[@Nikiaf]

This is such a pointless comparison.

[@MrGunzngirlz]

Once again, im sure next episode the Dodge will have won because of the rediculous, oversized, and closeminded American Muscle fanbase. Even though the BMW is the last word in drivers car and has every single aspect of performance on its side. The muscle car is loved because people are taught to love it. All muscle cars really are is Cheap speed and good looks with little thought given to anything else. I admit that the Muscle cars of the sixties have something really magical about them, and the craftsmen who work on them today sre amazing artists. Its also perfect if all your interested in is straight line performance. But personally, id take handling over speed any day. I also want a reliable product built to be of the highest quality possible. So idea for next episode! Acura NSX VS ________. But really if the NSX loses to whatever its up against, i really have no hope in there every being any competition in this series.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

But you can't judge a car strictly on how it performs. Low riders exist because some people care more about how their car looks, than how it performs. That being said, I wish that these guys would have a little more fun with the cars. Do some burnouts, take the cars to a drag strip, or a road course. Let the cars do the talking. Plus it would make a more entertaining show.

[@Calvin-Nelson]

You may actually be surprised how close the poll is. When I voted, it was 51% Dodge, and 49% BMW. They were separated by 10 votes.

[@MrGunzngirlz]

Nivlac57 wow. Thats suprising as hell! I thought after the miata lost to a thunderbird there was no hope. Even for the beloved modern drivers cars.

[@malevolenceXXXensues]

to be honest I see it like this the M3 is a good car, may not be as interesting as the Coronet but mechanically sound, while the Coronet is a legend amongst it's following and will always be the car most people will get cause their heart told them to. It's kinda like choosing that old E-type from the classifieds over a newer Audi TT, sure the TT is a great car and a lot more reliable, but if most car enthusiast had money to waste they would choose the E-type every time.

[@MrGunzngirlz]

malevolenceXXXensues You say that as if the M3 isnt interesting and doesnt have its own following lol. I didnt even know the Coronet was anything special apart from it being around in the 60s. Seems like everying america made in the 60s is worshipped on a pedistal. But thats my point, is it special because it was any good? Or is it just special because its from pre 1974. Will admit that California and the Emissions dept. f*cked American automobiles in 1974 and has been openly f*cking the United States automotive market ever since. They murdered the classic muscle and the land yatch, and have kept us from having wonderful cars like the Civic Type-R or the Porsche 959.

[@ihaveacoolhat1]

Both classics of their time.

[@Mzrati]

Love this series. My votes have been mixed not favoring Davin or Matt but it would be interesting to see a running tally for the hosts. Again, kudos for a great series.

[@JaikeJones]

You Americans say Coupe so weird, you're meant to pronounce the e in it like you pronounce the e in cafe, so that's like "coop-ay" not "coop", are you driving a fucking chicken coop, or a coupe, as in the car, huh? I always get them confused when Americans say it, i'm like "Oh, so you're driving something a chicken lives in, sure!".

[@draggonhedd]

Context.

[@TokyoDensetsu]

And Coo-Pay sounds like Toupée. I think someone's driving a hair piece! JK. I know the Euro, "Coo-pay" is correct however, words and pronunciations change when migrated to other countries and cultures. It's just a fact of etymology.

[@crunchymexican2910]

We're not British. Get over it. Different countries have different ways of pronouncing words and different meanings. Don't go to a bar or "pub" and ask for a napkin. Lol

[@joshuamilne5700]

Stick to playing with your barbie dolls and piss of

[@david1234687]

Go back to school kid and learn english.

[@peralez2383]

-Third- -Second- FIRST

[@garethleitner9547]

Lost my virginity in the back seat of my 65 Coronet 500 in 1973. Thanks Jo Ann!

[@shadowwolv21]

"he who shall be last shall be sideways and smiling" that is what every mopar guy is thinking when they`re in the back

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Meanwhile, there's a BMW up front ... also going sideways, and smiling. :)

[@adam1othman]

Jesus45U nah the germans don't like inefficiency hence the bmw won't do it... and it'll kick you in the nuts if you try

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Adam Othman Heh, the irony of that statement, is that the BMW is a beastly drift machine .. once you disable the traction control. Heck, if you get into the nurburgring taxi and ask the driver nicely, he/she'll happily give you a few drifts of your life. There are soime fantastic sections of that track for some crazy drifting at redicilous speeds. Offcourse, there's also a very dented guardrail in that section - But that's another matter. :D

[@adam1othman]

Jesus45U hahaha the guard rail..... however you can't deny that the germans want more traction through a corner... the serious performance machines.... and i mean really serious don't like drifting or tire smoke at all. hence why the bugatti has 4 wheel drive and the sly amg black docent like it when you drive with clown shoes on

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Adam Othman Well, grip can be fun as well, feeling the g-forces maul your body as you go trough a swift set of corners can certainly put a smile on your face as well. :) Also, by that account, there's no serious performance machines in america then ? They all just go sideways, like .. _all the time_ ? Just kidding, I know there are. :) Just like not all german cars are all about grip, in fact, the Mercedes Black that you mentioned would fit better in with the muscle car crowd. As for being german, and having fun ? Porsche RUF fast as hell! Enjoy. :)

[@coach303]

I am a MOPAR man, have three Chrysler products at this time. Love the 60's styling, and had a 66 Charger with a big block 318.

[@thehomi2451]

the price difference is so great its not even a competition

[@emanyo]

"Dodge is a verb and not a noun, that means movement buddy." That's my favorite year coronet too!

[@SugarFreeTargets]

I was honestly expecting a race around the track because of this title...

[@aminman15]

The E36 M3 is in absolutely mint condition! Pretty rare...

[@jqwill1987]

This show has potential, but definitely needs more performance driving and vehicle stats. Incorporate some 0-60 runs/times, quarter mile runs, or even some aggressive backroad driving if you guys can't compare performance on track.

[@jordanberry4824]

The 65 hemi coronet with aluminum front end is one of the most insane cars ever though.

[@V8Fan4ever]

I like this idea for a show. Interesting cars and fun so watch. Keep it up.

[@keepmovingjumping]

the "muscle car guy" reminds my of that Walking Dead sheriff

[@innout3x3]

I've always wanted an old muscle car, but I haven't found the one. I do own a 1995 M3 and it is quick. Good torque and hp, but it's handling is fantastic and predictable. It's not as sharp as my S2000, but it is truly a drivers car. There's a confidence that makes you feel you could do no wrong canyon carving.

[@Humance]

My european heart is telling to pick the M3 but i love the way american muscle looks

[@jerri0401]

BMW's in-line 6 engines are one the best engines ever built. lots of power, awesome sound and very durable. And e36 M3 climb in price over the years. Good ones are quite expensive

[@tonyvaccaro98]

Nobody wants a 65 coronet, everybody wants an m3!

[@TheTommyboy864]

Awww man! mopars have always been super touph and so easy on the eyes, i don''t think there's any question mopars are on a completely different level.

[@richarddevoe5871]

383 and a 4-speed...just like in my garage. MOPARs check my boxes but I can appreciate the M3 for what it is..

[@AcePilot101]

Best car my parents ever owned (Dodge Coronet) but it was a station wagon. It was fast and I remember the brakes failed at a stop sign right in front of a cop. ;)

[@GreatWhitePoop]

Interesting comparison. My dad has always had both Mopar muscle cars and BMWs. I currently have a BMW, but I love driving his 71 Dart. We also both autocross our cars, so with the right setup, old muscle cars can stop and turn pretty well. I would love to have either car in this video, but I think the Coronet is so much cooler. It seems 90% of the driving I do is just normal, boring driving/commuting. I love my car on a good twisty road, but cars like the Coronet make the other 90% of driving SO much more enjoyable.

[@bgunit20]

These two guys have the most awkward chemistry ever! Can they find two people that are at least friends to host this show?

[@thecedars0612]

Woo that M3 is still beautiful after all these years

[@macgyverdennis4834]

Im going with the Dodge. I like the newer M3 better than the 95 model. Great show keep it up.

[@dylananderson924]

I actually own this exact 1965 Coronet 500 and I mean the exact same one on the video. I bought it in 2017 at the Mopar Nationals.

[@yammyhundred467]

I'm in the UK, M3's are popular here, for lots of good reasons, fast and usable - which would I own - The Dodge, just look at it!

[@michaelmixon1099]

I am more interested in styling than power and this is where most of the older models win every time.

[@xraydelta100]

I thought this was a fun video....enjoyed the easy competitive talk. Plenty of other videos do good technical comparisons. I just relaxed and remembered my hot rod and then later my rx7 and ml350s.

[@paulsmith9341]

I would like both of these cars in my garage. Like a handful of different ratchets, there is the right one for each purpose.

[@bensmith5543]

Love both types of cars but I'm getting tired of the classic car guys main point in every episode being "old is better because you look better in it". His love for cars is them making him look better and being seen. The new car guy enjoys cars for the feel of driving experience, which is what cars were made for.

[@Nick68S]

I think they've summed it up pretty well. By virtue of being an older car/classic, the Coronet has more character......individuality, quirks, flaws, call them what you will, and although there were common styling cues, there was more originality and the ability to almost infinitely personalise your every day car off the production line. I'm not claiming accuracy here but let's say you could pick from a Coronet 500 with a 383 or 440, manual or auto, 2 or 4bbl carbs, bench or split seats plus interior/exterior colours and whatever else was available on the order sheet. Still a valid Coronet 500 The M3 is probably the more competent all round car of the two, with almost 30 years of automotive development since the Coronet - think discs, ABS, fuel injection, economy, safety. But "character"? Well, an E36 M3 comes with a straight six, a manual box and injection - the same as every other M3 so you're only personalisation is coupe/convertible, paint/trim or blitzing the aftermarket catalogues. You could buy a 318iES and stick "M" badges on it but it wouldn't be an M3. What about in 2025?......how many M3s will be on the go and how will they stack up? Me?............Coronet every time.

[@leok8183]

this show would be more fun if it wasn´t all scripted. M3 ofc.