1982 Falklands War: 900 Mile Round Trip To Bomb Shipping At San Carlos | DCS Reenactment Mission

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3:54 Take Off
29:32 AAR
43:39 Initial Point Attack
48:05 Combat
59:31 Debrief
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[@gastonpablogonzalezkriegel1178]

I am from Argentina and you guys did the mission very well. I Hope British and Argentina Will play in the same side in the near future global west vs east wars. In memory of those Who Lost their lives on both sides i Hope to see more videos like this. BEST regards from Córdoba Argentina

[@northernhardcore.7899]

Hi Pablo! I hope no more lives are lost over those islands. Too many have been lost already. Hasta Manyana.

[@creeperFIN123]

I hope we stay out of the colonizers pointless war and rise up economically to give our people the freedom and food security they need instead of going and sucking the wests rotten member like the slaves we were...

[@grimreapers]

ooOO I have some good plans for this :)

[@jotabe1984]

que ganas de lamer botas inglesas... todavía tienen las Malvinas y vos ya queriendo ir a ser la carne de cañon de su próximo conflicto por la dominación mundial... increible los personajes que se encuentran

[@andreartymiuk]

Got to admire the Argentine pilots, they made a real impact despite heavy losses.

[@tlalotoani]

Argentinian bomb fuses were not designed for low altitude attacks, just imagine if the bombs they dropped, actually exploded, the story might be entirely different.

[@jdgarcia2004]

according to British General, If bombs actually went off Argentina would've won.

[@patthewoodboy]

imaging any thing you want , reality prevails. Image Buenos Aires getting nuked which could happen in the imagination 🙂

[@LondonSteveLee]

The fuses were set at their quickest setting - the problem is the Argentinians were having to fly under what they knew as Sea Dart's minimum engagement envelope - they had no choice.

[@potusuk]

Thanks for this GR - very well done - I was on HMS Antrim, thankfully we didn't sink but our main weapon system was totally put out of commission by an unexploded 1000 lb'er. Ardent, which I saw burning nearby had my best mate from school on board, she was hit by about 17 bombs - he somehow survived the sinking. Rapiers took too long to effectively setup on the first day. All shipborne radars didn't have Moving Target Indication over land, this was something we had retro-fitted afterwards and being in such a small body of water is not the 'natural' place for these ships to be - after all, we were an anti-submarine asset for NATO to guard the Greenland Iceland Norway gap (Antrim was originally a Carrier Group Escort). So similar to the brave Argentine pilots who didn't know what to expect until they popped over the high hills surrounding the Sound, we couldn't see them until they appeared in the sky there. - I sometimes speak with a veteran Argentine pilot from that engagement and will pass him a link to this video. Once again BZ very well done.

[@MeatVision]

Damn, that was some crazy, almost suicidal mission with very outdated equipment. Great video, Cap

[@Gilgamesh347]

Love the verisimilitude of this mission. So very much like what I read about. It does make you admire the balls of the Argentinian pilots. Well done. The anticipation and climax were worth the wait.

[@danielberger1378]

Just a little detail, but the timing of adding the dramatic music was PERFECT 👍 Great mission.

[@grimreapers]

thxx

[@thetbnrtitanium007]

String these Falklands videos together and you could get something to send to the History Channel Well Done

[@brankomilicevic6904]

Only if he puts in some ancient aliens in it, or at least the storage unit bidding in San Carlos post battle.

[@copper_115]

A job well done by Cap and the Boys. Challenges with refueling, the unknown level of protection, culminating with trying to execute a bombing mission at high speed. I thought it felt very realistic. It was great having Cap calling the blow by blow and watching it all unfold from different views. Great Video.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@jonlucaslastra1637]

Aside from the radio silence kept by the Argentinian pilots, awesome mission, and video ;)

[@GustaHeavy]

Argie here! Today is My birthday and for me this is a gift. The start of both attacks gave me chills, from the Daggers and then the Skyhawks. Those pilots are my real life heroes since I studied the war by myself (In the school they thaught us political BS, so we feel sorry for our soldiers, and not proud). This reenactments/play is like the movie we Will never have about those pilots. Thanks a Lot and keep it up the good work!!! Respect for all the fallen, from both sides.

[@cover_now3425]

Happy belated B-day :)

[@ThePaulv12]

The cloud model is a bit up the shit for 25kft as you break out. There isn't Altostratus (As) and Stratocumulus (Sc) up there because these are mid level clouds. Cirrus (Ci), Cirrostratus (Cs) and Cirrocumulous (Cc) is what you get up there and Cumulonimbus (Cb) tops when there's thunderstorms. The way it is there's cloud layers going beyond 40,000ft ffs!. Depending on latitude there isn't much cloud over about 30,000ft perhaps the occasional Ci or Cb top. I almost sicked up at this monstrous inaccuracy. For the love of god someone let the devs know before I have a brain aneurysm.

[@g3arjammer837]

I just had a great idea cap! Another skills competition! If you remember not long ago you did the Carrier Landing Challenge where it got progressively harder to land. What if you did the same sort of challenge but with mid air refueling? I foresee a lot of chaos with this challenge and it sounds like great fun for the boys (and girls) at GR. Round 1 : you could give everyone 3 passes to attempt to refuel. No wind or special conditions like weather Round 2 - 2 passes some wind but not a lot. As well as minor human interference from the tanker. Round 3 - 2 passes, wind and light weather (such as light rain), mild human interference. Round 4 - 1 pass high wind and severe weather such as storms, up to you for human interference here. Round 5 - 1 pass (highly unlikely anyone will survive this one) insane levels of wind and severe storms, maximum human interference. Feel free to modify this formula to how you see fit. Have a great day cap!

[@grimreapers]

lol OK will try but don't expect this to go well.

[@g3arjammer837]

@@grimreapers I don’t lmao that’s why I suggested it I expect it to be as chaotic as the carrier landing one if not more so 😂

[@skilgannon5069]

Thanks Arty and Cap for the mission. it was great fun to fly. 😎

[@grimreapers]

Yes Sir.

[@Jenkins2488]

oh look...ANOTHER hour long video HELL YEA!!!! *grabs popcorn*

[@skyhorseprice6591]

Well, Cap, that blew goat ass. Oh, not the _mission_ , that was fine. But man, come _on_ , you been waiting for ...what? 4 years?.....to do this mission? So you finally bust loose in all your glory...and your internet crashes? Dude, you need a new internet carrier. That must have been the most frustrating shit, like, ever. But even so, I watched the whole thing.

[@jr8656]

It would be a good idea to get rhe cabling checked by the isp. I had daily disconnects until my isp changed the whole cabling to my house.

[@xenaguy01]

I definitely laughed my butt off when Cap said that.

[@grimreapers]

Welcome to English internet!

[@xenaguy01]

@@grimreapers 😄😁😆😅😂🤣

[@karlasmith]

Great video! Really shows how much it took to get those bombs there and how well the Argentinians did considering. Cap, I’m sorry about your internet.

[@Decrepit_biker]

My friends dad was a Sergent in the Marines and actually shot down an A4 during the landings. Shares the credit with one of the frigates I believe! Crazy to think he saw this for real.

[@MegaRadarlove]

" Geezuz Qwiest" --- That was Frekin awesome, from brief- take-off- AAR great COMS - IPA Mirage daggers and serious "the Shiittz" ( no pun intented ) bombing from the Skyhawks combat guys - best fun ever -- gotta Love Cap Live ( did ya hit anything? )- congrats on Mission complete

[@mattmcbee7109]

I like the subtle music you added during the combat!

[@tomriley5790]

Great mission - really brings home the challenge for the Argentinian Airforce - and actually quite realstic, when they flew high they did get shot down. The Falklands map is really impressive! Just to point out that as was mentioned in the debrief the targets that were the most valuable were the landing ships. However the RN knew this and deliberately positioned the escort vessels (warships) in the most vulnerable positions so that any attacking Argentinian aircraft would have to fly over them to get to the landing ships - that combined with getting hold of absolutely everything they could (strapping machineguns to the ships rails) made them by far the most likely to get hit. The job of the escorting warships was to get the ships and their cargos safely ashore so whilst the loss of Ardent and Antelope was a definite blow they did their job protecting the landing (like bodyguards jumping infront of a bullet).

[@xenaguy01]

Good comment!

[@alejandrogrossi9424]

Hi Cap. greetings from Argentina The 2 FFG sunk on Bomb Alley, as If I not wrong is what the British knows the San Carlos straits battle, was the HMS ARDENT and the HMS ANTELOPE. The HMS ARGONAUT was heavily damage.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks

[@GHOSTIQ76]

That's so cool keep it up

[@alejandrogrossi9424]

Hi cap. Absolutly amazing. I love it. Thanks

[@grimreapers]

Pleasure mr Grossi :)

[@TheCaptainbeefylog]

Me : Eject! Eject! Eject! Wife : You know they can't hear you, right?

[@101ranger98]

Great job and great video

[@dwgould2001]

Just gotta say, though I really enjoy your reenactments, it wouldn't be the Falklands without the infamous Vulcan bombing raid on Port Stanley. 🙂

[@GABRIEL1030]

incredible amazing video

[@5Andysalive]

"We are all dead. I hope you enjoyed that!" :)

[@IRONIC1688]

Excellent!

[@matiasbarreiro3882]

Nice work

[@CombatIneffective]

I don't agree with why Argentina were in the Falklands but those Argentinian pilots were some very courageous pilots. More than likely they probably knew these were suicide missions but they went anyway.

[@martinguevara3423]

If a mission is sucidal or not is not a reason to avoid do your duty By the other way the islains is from us, it was given from spain, the england come in 1833

[@tH30_1]

True but the vulcan pilots were chivalrous

[@dannyshaw4057]

How far are the islands from Spain @@martinguevara3423 ? Has anyone ever thought to ask the indigenous groups who lived in what is now Argentina whether they thought of the islands as their own? No, of course not because the Spanish committed genocide on them when they were stealing the land that is now your country.

[@turnip5359]

@@martinguevara3423 😐

[@martinguevara3423]

@@dannyshaw4057 you are british and you never made a mixture in those old days of conquest as Spain did and talk tovme about genocide?

[@molotovgrey]

That A-4E needs to be added to the main game, or somehow easier to add to servers, that is such a great mod.

[@grimreapers]

yup

[@christopherhanton6611]

very good video that would very hard trying to avoid missiles and aa

[@jotabe1984]

well some sidenotes as for realism: Most important thing is that it was a gret mission, really close to the real thing, main limitation is the game itself... 1) Lack of Daggers/Mirage5 only left you guys with the option of using Mirage 2000, a way more advanced aircraft with a much more powerfull engine 2) Game does not mod malfuctions. In real life on that scale of operations malfuctions in both aircraft and air defense systems does play a role 3) ingame Rapiers and Sea Darth are way more lethal than 1982 version of the system. I think those systems are modded after later versions, versions that were indeed upgraded after the 1982 conflict due to the mediocre results protecting airspace against semi-obsolete strike aircrafts 4) a bomb hit does not equal a bomb exploding, a lot of Argentinean bombs were duds due to the low altitude drop problem. i'd say 1/2 bombs were duds in the attack, so you get a somehow historical outcome of 2 ships sunks out of 4 hits 5) i was expecting a 25% to 40% aircraft downed... 100% down its not realistic but what can you do except reducing air defenses (only 1 rapier, no stinger sq) and live with getting 75% aircraft downed

[@SidiVici]

Great Mission. So sad your internet crashed and you couldn't participate in the attack, and we were left with no cockpit view

[@Wolfe351]

really impressive takeoff.......no one crashed!!

[@BlueArsedGibbon]

My mate was on the Antrim, radio operator. Antrim wasn't sunk but it was hit by a 1,000 lb'er that failed to detonate, I believe.

[@richardvernon317]

Argonaut was hit by rockets and MG fire from a MB-236 trainer launched out of Stanley airport then was hit by 2 UXB's off A-4's in the first major wave from the Mainland. She was in San Carlos water doing ASW patrols. Antrim was damaged by cannon fire and hit by a UXB that quite literally ended up in a Toilet!!! She was in Falkland Sound and acting as the Anti Air Warfare Control ship. Brilliant and Broadsword were both Strafed by 30mm Cannon fire in Falkland Sound. Ardent had been to the south of everybody else, supporting an SAS raid on Goose Green, operating in Graham Sound. That was where she was sunk. Antelope wasn't there on 21st. She didn't get the Falklands until 22nd May and was sunk the next day. Rapier was not operational on 21st May at all and the SAS fired 6 Stingers for one kill.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@matiasbarreiro3882]

The planes from Argentina dont have rwr , chaff or flares in the war, except for the Super Etendard. Not even the Mirage III interceptors.

[@LondonSteveLee]

The Harriers didn't have flares until someone in NAS 801 figured out how to gerry-rig a setup which was copied by the rest.

[@paule1983]

Fun content.

[@northernhardcore.7899]

I hope your ‘bigging up’ of the aggressors doesn’t backfire on you.

[@JD96893]

I bet they will do this again when the kfir gets launched. Cap just loves the 1982 Falklands war too much. Was fun seeing it from the argentine side.

[@grimreapers]

Already planned....

[@mrlodwick]

Fan stuck up my danbridge chuffer watching this.

[@kirbydr.argentina8135]

im surprised, i totally enjoyed watching that is very nice to see this, it makes me smile also 7:12 is it just me or you said "Viva Argentina"?

[@biggooddad]

"Right in the face!" 😂

[@MrSnudger]

Could you stick a cheeky backup respawn location near the action for disconnects on long flights? Seems a shame to miss out after all that work due to internet problems.

[@grimreapers]

Agree. Hinesight I guess?

[@Martinit01]

Our A4 Skyhawks did not have Radar warning of any kind as far as i know

[@R.Instro]

Can't stop wondering what planet this was done on, where mid-level clouds are so dense at 30,000' + ....

[@EXPLORINGWITHMEDAVE]

yes yes yes...ohh coffee

[@Davros-vi4qg]

Scooter, scooting!

[@CombatIneffective]

I am assuming they were Stinger teams because DCS does not have the Blowpipe modeled in game?

[@richardvernon317]

Stinger was there in real life, SAS were using it and shot down a Pucara on 21st May. Only Blowpipe kill of the day was on the other side of Falkland Sound at Port Howard, then the Argies shot down a RAF Harrier GR3 with it. Only British Blowpipe kill in the whole war was a Argentinian Navy MB-399A shot down by a Royal Marine during the Battle of Goose Green.

[@CombatIneffective]

@@richardvernon317 yes I know the Stinger was there but the Blowpipe was the main shoulder fired anti aircraft missile fielded by the British in the Falklands.

[@richardvernon317]

@@CombatIneffective Yes and if you every talked to anybody who has fired one, they will tell you is surprising that anybody got a kill with the thing in the Falklands. It was OK against slow moving drones and Helicopters, plus head on approaching targets, but high speed crossing targets, forget it. Same problem for Rapier Field Standard A and Sea Cat.

[@CombatIneffective]

@@richardvernon317 I am not talking about the effectiveness of the system. I am talking about historical accuracy here. The Blowpipe was the worst Shoulder fired anti air system ever made. In fact had Argentina been using Warsaw Pact aircraft, the system would have been even more useless since the RWR in a Soviet aircraft would have picked it up and any radar jammer would have rendered the missile system useless. The British practically begged to get the Stingers sent to them. And as for hit rate? There are only 3 known kills with the blowpipe for the around 300 firings of the system leading to a 1% kill ratio.

[@grimreapers]

The Stingers were simulating Blowpipe missiles being set up around the Sound.

[@timblack6422]

It’s a great day!

[@itsjustjuan8239]

Hey cap! Try a sort of plane gun game. Every kill gets you an upgrade to a newer plane. So basically a free for all guns only where everyone starts at warbirds and eventually gets to a 5th gen fighter. Might be better for the second channel

[@theafro]

Having just finished reading Rowland White's "Harrier 809" this hits the spot nicely! Not a bad effort, but thankfully, it was less of a disaster IRL (for both sides), I hate to think what the body-count would be for today's effort. If the rapiers were taken from the equation (as they were) and sea-dart (in-)effectiveness was more realistic the Argy attrition probably wouldn't be too far off. and the fact that the bombs actually fused correctly probably explains the greater nember of ship kills. would have been nice to have seen a harrier or two appear to sort things out a bit, a nice excuse to scream "La Muerta negro!" for effect!

[@dannyshaw4057]

Vulcan 607 is next on your reading list! (Razors Edge is also a very good if you would like an overview....although the cover does make it look as though it biased against the UK, it is actually written by a former UK agent.)

[@theafro]

@@dannyshaw4057 Waaay ahead of you! I read 607 as soon as it was published, but then I did grow up with a model of 607 hanging from my bedroom ceiling!

[@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595]

I had mixed feelings about this war game because I was pro-British during the war. Though, in the end, it is best to honor the fallen on both sides.

[@grimreapers]

Yup. I've enjoyed learning about it from both sides.

[@tokencivilian8507]

Brass effing balls on those Argie pilots, period, full stop.

[@TristanSplunge]

49:21 SAM Jumpscare

[@Ivyxpinkx]

From a total DCS novice, a technical question to anyone doing DCS: What is the typical framerate in these kinds of sims? Back in the days, when QuakeWorld was all the rave, we up'ed the framerate from the default 72, then to 100, 140 and even 200 fps. We had old fashion CRT monitors that supported that (CRTs had no lag whatsoever). There was a significant difference between 72, 100 and 140 fps, and then very slightly at 200 fps. This might be trivia, DCS is a very different game, but I am curious because in the heat of a fast moving game, you'd want to emulate the capabilities of the eye-brain as much as possible. Again, I'm asking as a complete novice.

[@rodneypearce6113]

Very much depends on how fast a given machine is capable of running it. high fps is far less important in a Sim than a first person shooter as well. I cap mine at 120 with high settings, but sometimes when there is a lot of objects on screen it will drop to 60, typically when low on Marianas map, for example, in external views.

[@LondonSteveLee]

You suggested Sea Dart over-achieved - if the sea conditions matched the calm of those of the game, Sea Dart would have performed better.

[@chriscroumbie-brown6914]

Did you account for the fact that the Argentines released their bombs below minimum arming height that meant the bombs had no time to arm before impact ?

[@PartiBuoy]

I'd imagine if you weren't physically fit to sit that long you'd be really paralyzed after the flight

[@grimreapers]

I could barely walk after 2.5hours at the PC.

[@Willoz269]

I guess using the Mirage F1 might have been closer to the Mirage III or Dagger instead of using the Mirage 2000?

[@Wolfe351]

its same as Top gear rules....no stopping for breakdowns or Capt slow

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@krismurphy7711]

What about a low level to pop up dive bomb attack??? More time to spot and target best ships to hit? (Anything by the combattant ships... anything ship carrying men/supplies.

[@silversurfer66_]

could u do the vickers vulcan bombing raid on stanley airport and do the refueling as well

[@andreartymiuk]

Never tried setting up a mission where refuelers refuel from another refueler... will give it a try.

[@dannyshaw4057]

Vickers made the Valiant - which would be a great plane to see in some historical recreations! Avro made the Vulcan, latterly Hawker Siddeley. (Handley Page Victor was the third of the so-called V-bombers.....again another plane I would love to see flying in a recreation.)

[@silversurfer66_]

@@dannyshaw4057 my mistake your right it was avro and the valiant is vickers

[@grimreapers]

I looked into it but it was like a 17 hours flight. I've never gunna be able to get the boys on for 17 hours....

[@silversurfer66_]

@@grimreapers try a shorter version using half or quarter tanks to reduce the time,splash and dash

[@jerryjonas8178]

From what I understand, IRL, the planes don't fly in that tight of a formation?

[@grimreapers]

Agreed

[@UncleWayne5104]

How do you guys think you would go doing something historical like the Dambusters mission (Operation Chastise) using Lancasters (If you have them) Or even the Battle of Britain (using real people as well as AI on both sides) Either way, nightshift is going easier by watching these. Cheers

[@Wolfe351]

it was Ardent and Argonaut that got sunk, not Antrim

[@alejandrogrossi9424]

I t was the HMS ARDENT and the HMS ANTELOPE. The HMS ARGONAUT was heavily damage

[@tomriley5790]

@@alejandrogrossi9424 yes Antelope blew up whilst they were trying to defuse the bomb.

[@tH30_1]

Would love to sea a combined 1990s Russian assault su 27s and su 25s against NATO defences

[@patrickmcdermott757]

Can you please do a battle with your lads flying the 4 Eurofighters stationed on Falkland against a modern Argentine invasion force??

[@araizachristian3920]

eurofighters vs the same old A4s

[@LostBeagle]

Is the drunk pilot flying this mission?

[@krismurphy7711]

Obviously better to attack en masse than one or two at a time. Computers, missile systems, gunners ALL have much easier time with just one or two to spot assess target. Better to orbit on far side of island, form up, go in as a group... one long line 5 seconds apart??

[@scottr9900]

Honor the dead, and move on, maybe?

[@wulfenii64]

I'm just wondering if the c word was chicken or cornflakes.

[@grimreapers]

erm yes

[@wulfenii64]

@@grimreapers 😄

[@svenskdod]

Any idea when there might be a mod for rapid dragon? That will be very interesting.

[@jrarnold85]

Where’s Cortana? Haven’t heard her in a while…

[@ecbst6]

What, no Argentenian version of the 99 Bottles song?

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@5Andysalive]

MAybe round trip is a somewhat optimistic title...

[@andyl4621]

traitors all

[@johnxina6823]

i think putting on rockets wouldve been better for sinking ships

[@grimreapers]

Yeh I did think about that.

[@andrewthomas8233]

Damn you guys got obliterated

[@bearcatracing007]

That cockpit is tiny

[@georgejones5004]

It's average bro 😭

[@grimreapers]

Your mom is tiny?

[@garymyers6638]

GUY YEG OSE

[@grimreapers]

lol I can never remember :(

[@pablo-iu3lv]

they are flying too high

[@patthewoodboy]

so they know you are coming , shit strategy . Harriers would launch and kill the heavy Skyhawks who still have bombs.

[@nancybruce7739]

It seems that every time you guys use drag bombs you drop to late. GR needs more practice. That is all! Lol

[@grimreapers]

You need to train/practice properly to use this type of bomb accurately. Realistically no one has time to do that. Looked cool though.

[@ibex485]

I wonder how effective Mistral equipped Gazelle helicopters would have been at defending the initial landings from air attack, before the Rapier batteries were fully operational? My understanding is that the missile system wasn't available until the late-'80s and wasn't acquired by the British anyway. So 0/10 for historical accuracy. But multiple Gazelles defending against a full wave of low level attack aircraft might be an interesting scenario to explore?

[@andreartymiuk]

Mistral Gazelle is the best Fox 2 A2A module in DCS. It SO annoys the fixed wing guys to be shot down by a Helo!

[@ibex485]

@@andreartymiuk I bet it does. But their pain is our pleasure. xD

[@richardvernon317]

British lost three aircraft on 21st May 1982. A Harrier GR 3 shot down over West Falkland by a Blowpipe SAM and Two Gazelle's!!! Shot down over San Carlos by Small Arms fire from the few Argentinian troops deployed in that area.

[@andreartymiuk]

@@richardvernon317 indeed. I reference the loss of the 2 Gazelles in our previous GR (UK perspective) Defence of San Carlos mission that Cap refers to in this missions briefing.

[@northernhardcore.7899]

Why did you call the Royal Navy ships, “…the enemy ships…”?

[@b8nnytez]

and why do you call the bombing of men the pilots would have known would have been trapped on those ships 'heroic'? I know a lot of time has passed, but we lost a friend on the Galahad. I know you want to be fair to both sides, I understand that, in these woke days, but you need to remove 'heroic' from the thumbnail as those men on the ships died very gruesome deaths, without getting the chance to be 'heroic'

[@mrdlama4036]

You guys are pushing it too far I find it hard too watch also But we need to let it slide as it’s all history and what if’s

[@dannyshaw4057]

@@mrdlama4036 The thing is with the history of this conflict, it has almost been allowed to shift to the point where the UK were the bad guys - this war was caused by a military junta, who murdered anywhere between 20,000 and 50,000 of their own people, the Argentine forces treated the islanders appallingly - no doubt if the islands had remained in Argentine hands for much longer, many of the islanders would have been 'disappeared' too. Argentinians should be for ever grateful to us for ridding them of a truly evil government - but no they'd rather focus on a few islands than actually fix the poisonous nationalism that is the cause of ALL of their problems - such as having an economy that collapses like clockwork every decade.

[@mrdlama4036]

@@dannyshaw4057 I totally agree with you Don’t pay no bbc license as I object to the anti white anti British propaganda they spew But it’s a game the boys are playing and trying the what if scenario in a historic way I’m sure the Americans hate seeing there aircraft getting blasted over Vietnam etc We brits know what we did and we are proud of it and losing the ships hurts for sure As I said I find it hard to watch and it’s only a computer game I spend all lot of time highlighting the CCP party and the propaganda they push so I’m upto date in junta’s The CCP is the daddy junta 👍

[@Utubesuperstar]

Because they were reenacting things as Argentina just like any other reenactment you act faithfully to the conflict and as they would the Royal Navy ships were the enemy ships of the argentina pilots. Get over it take it for what it is

[@rodbey9318]

Bless it is the nation, who's God is the lord. And all those little countries that don't have a God too.

[@daviddoyle982]

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