1986 Range Rover Stripping Axles - Edd China's Workshop Diaries 48

We begin refurbishing parts to go back on our Range Rover chassis once it's ready. Having stripped the Rot-Rover bare, the exciting part of the process is about to begin. The first job is to strip down and examine the axles and differentials for excess wear and tear. Will there be anything worth salvaging?
Edd China's Workshop Diaries Episode 48 - Stripping and Checking the Range Rover axles.
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[@Theanswer285]

Loved the Greek music. Thanks to the lad who chose that. 🙏

[@mjallenuk]

First time I recall seeing the word pfaffy written in a YT video... well done for squeezing that in there!

[@TheRealMrCods]

10:13 Quote verbatim "Shims! Come on Edd, you can't just assume everyone knows what a shim is. Apart from being a lovely, pert sounding word; shims are actually very useful things - essentially super thin metal washers in a range of precise thickness so they can be stacked together to take up a exact amount of slack. The can be a lot of pfaff though as fitting & checking the preload involves a lot of taking apart and reassembly without seals and things before finally reassembling with everything in place once you are sure you have the correct overall thickness of shims in place. Shim, what a lovely sounding, useful, pfaffy thing!"

[@theravedaddy]

Why is this comment copied from another account?

[@jphilb]

Thanks so much!

[@TheStevenWhiting]

@@theravedaddy Its what appears in one frame only.

[@EnglanderUK]

Nothing makes an end to the day better than turning on youtube and seeing that Ed just released a new video.

[@JO19pLuMbUm94HN]

You all Brits here are like. "This rusty old piece just needs a little bit of care and love, then it's just as brand new." Love the mindset ❤

[@ScoobyFoxy]

Top tip: whenever draining any oil, take out the fill plug/remove the fill cap first. This way you a- know you can refill it and b- stops the oil ‘glugging’ as it’s draining, giving a smooth stream which is easier to inspect for debris, and a lot less likely to cause a mess

[@Norwegian_Bastard]

best way to fill a rover diff if you dont have a long neck on the oil or a pump. just take the halfshaft out and pour the oil in that way, had to do it a few times. with steel rims you dont have to remove the tire even. front is abit harder, but if you are changing cvs its a great way of doing it since you are already in there

[@davedarling4316]

Just about to leave this very comment myself!!

[@curtisjeffery8723]

Was just going to leave this tip

[@coreyennis9411]

I think this is the bit where Edd would say, "Normally we would do. But, the production crew thought the glug glug was more interesting."

[@regsparkes6507]

Yep, you're correct!

[@paulmackay6376]

The old Edd is back....wonderful video, thank you !

[@huseyinogan4971]

Pure workshop and not show. Very Very good.

[@LAP1050]

Edd, great 👍 video breaking down the diffs, really enjoyed it. Thanks

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

I can't believe I missed this 2 days ago.. man notifications are a bummer they don't always get my attention.. Edd is one of my favorites, has been for YEARS now.. keep it coming Edd, great job!!!

[@bahamacharger]

Great to see you back at the RR again and I have been watching you and Paul chatting about the past. My self and Family met you both at Haynes Motor Museum while you were on Wheeler Dealers. You both were and are spot on, unfortunately The other Man my children didn’t like at all and the photos are still a talking point 👍🏻👌🏻

[@oilstovesandmore]

The more Land Rover video's, the better! Thanks for your good explanation and great video's 👍

[@tatuaalbert3112]

Really enjoyed this one Edd, never seen the workings of a front diff before, your narative was great, and with the gentleman from britparts input really understood the diffs issues. great stuff mate.

[@williammnyika3661]

Always captivating and a wonderful production. One of the brilliant automotive channels on Yu tube. Watching you Nairobi

[@busterboy7505]

This Range Rover project is going to take forever, I am just going to put my iPad on charge for a few years, nice one EDD, good job Steve had those diff parts on the shelf , 👍👍👍.

[@gooondie]

I can watch Edd fix cars all day and never get bored. I’ve learned so much from him over the years, especially when it comes to wrenching on my own cars.

[@eddchina]

Thank you, anything in particular you would like to see?

[@smashyrashy]

@@eddchina not to be rude edd but id like to see more consistency

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

I totally agree. Edd is a pure, natural presenter (and paul et al). Edd is THE Bob Ross of the automotive world (ie high praise). I could watch you talking about paint drying and it would still be fun, entertaining, and educational!!! Just keep making more content!!!!!!!

[@gooondie]

@@eddchina I know this is probably unlikely, but I’d love to see some work on the w201 chassis of Mercedes. I have a ‘91 190e with the 2.6 6 cyl. I love the car, but it has too many issues to count. One thing I’d like to see is some work done to the K Jetronic fuel system. It looks like a nightmare and I’m afraid to even touch it, lol

[@brassedoff2437]

@@smashyrashy What do you mean? It is what it is and very interesting with it.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Great video guys 👌

[@TheCurlyP]

Nice was missing these. Enjoying watching you get right into the details on this Range Rover

[@doingstuffandfilmingit]

This series has inspired me to finally start work again on my oldest project car a 1999 Corsa sport that hasn't moved in over 5 years. It's sat like that for a number of reasons, one of which was assuming it was beyond me and to get it going again would mean spending endless amounts of cash at a garage. Seeing how you worked on this range rover and that it's not actually that hard if you just take your time about it I'm much more confident going back into this project. Now I just need to learn to weld, preferably without burning the car, the house and myself to the ground! Great to see the range rover making some progress too.

[@garthswaney5439]

Good luck!

[@doingstuffandfilmingit]

@@garthswaney5439 Thank you, I think I shall need it....

[@philtowle4683]

Seen Steve before on britpart vids. Bought quite a few blue bags having had a disco 2 and my wife having a disco 2 and a freelander 1. The rr classic looks good in the background.

[@Rob.Coleman]

What a fantastically clean workshop 👍.

[@Uk5haky]

ED, I love your t shirts, man.

[@spaghettilocomotive]

Not even two minutes in, and you got your top tip: Always loosen the fill plug before the drain. This is more important on the vehicle though, as a rusted fill plug wouldn' t be too much of a problem when the axles are on the bench.

[@loopdemack]

There was 1 frame subliminal msg from EDD about shims at 10:13 t=613 Here is the MSG : Shims! Come on Edd, you can’t just assume everyone knows what a shim is. Apart from being a lovely, pert sounding word; shims are actually very useful things - essentially super thin metal washers in a range of precise thickness so they can be stacked together to take up a exact amount of slack. They can be a lot of pfaff though as fitting & checking the preload involves a lot of taking apart and reassembly without seals and things before reassembling with everything in place once you are sure you have the correct overall thickness of shims in place. Shim, what a lovely sounding, useful, pfaffy thing!

[@sunilphalakdhari3869]

Love your videos and dexterity and explanations. Please please do a video on repairing the Renault scenic 2, automatic gearboxes. Even in your country these cars are just being scrapped just because nobody seems to have a clue why these transmissions are so troublesome and neither any clues to repairing them. Or the costs are exhorbirant. Thank you kindly

[@nigelmorphew4290]

Forgot to say ,am happy for it to be filmed, as the only belts changed I’ve found online was with the engine out! More than happy for it to be filmed, cheers

[@TheGramophoneGirl]

I enjoyed this and it was nice to see you involve a sponsor too. Also, your production quality is just as good as broadcast.

[@eddchina]

Thanks, it’s great you appreciate the extra effort. Have you tried watching the show on a big screen in 4K?

[@TheGramophoneGirl]

@@eddchina No, I didn't realise it was in 4k. I have a 4k smart tv, so I might watch it on there next time. Thanks :)

[@JoseMorales-bo2cu]

Eres el 1 Edad ! Y de paso ampliamos nuestro conocimientos . No es solo sentarse a conducir un vehículo. Saludos....

[@c.spencer2338]

Had to do this to my rear jeep axle Dana 35. new seals and went ahead with new bearings as well.

[@Ausjho]

Top tip: Whenever there's just one frame of text in the video (on PC) use the period and comma keys to skip forward and backward one frame respectively.

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

Great to have some spannering back on the channel; I found this really interesting as I've recently restored a series 3 109 axle and I honestly didn't expect the Range Rover to be almost the same.

[@the_hamrat]

Doesn't the rear axle on the Series 3 have a Salisbury axle?

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

@@the_hamrat yes it does but I’m talking about the overall crudity of it all in a luxury vehicle.

[@donevans1884]

brilliant video .

[@MattTester]

For the complete experience this video should be watched with an open bottle of EP80/90 nearby.

[@eddchina]

Absolutely, the older the better!

[@andyrbush]

Yes I spilt some in my hair when I had hair, stank for a week.

[@dennisconroy3459]

I know time moves on. Edd and Mike had a magic persona . That was good to watch Wheeler dealers. I don't bother to watch Wheeler dealers anymore, the magic has gone.

[@erics2147]

What a nice change to have pleasant music instead of the usual ear splitting rock music that usually accompanies car programs. Whoever chooses it is doing a great job.

[@eddchina]

Thanks. Glad you liked it!

[@aredub1847]

@@eddchina Also smooth jazz.

[@Hybridesque]

@@aredub1847 nice.

[@ahmetagr6062]

*Bizi hipnoz edip kendisine hayran bırakan kral* 💕💕 *Edd başarılar dostum seni çok seviyoruz, Türkiye'den selamlar*

[@robbflynn4325]

Been critical of a few of your shows of late but I REALLY enjoyed this one, loved the quality content and excellent camera work, and it was nice to see a proper engineer who knows his stuff, Well done!

[@daniellablee6682]

Me encanta el trabajo que ases.quiero mas contenido de chatas ,camionetas .saludosdesde🇦🇷👍

[@wdunn06]

You're a top guy Edd 👍

[@Land_Raver]

Two pin diffs in the early rovers were fine for the road. I'd want to throw a trutrac in there for good measure after tearing it down. Thanks Edd for showing us a swivel teardown.

[@donhappel9566]

At a minimum - If this is going to see any serious wheeling go straight to a full locker (Detroit, ARB, Ashcroft) and 24 spline ChroMo shafts plus uprated CVs. I actually run 30 spline RCV CVs in my D1. One of the few parts I haven't managed to break.

[@guillermopalmieri9105]

Muy buen trabajo Edd el que estás haciendo en esos diferenciales. Saludos.

[@rufftime1]

Nice to see that early blu classic in the background, i have a Bahama Gold from -73 not in that state tho.....yet.

[@garricksapprentice]

Very smart - leaving the filler plugs in like that when draining so everyone leaves a comment thinking they know something about cars that you don't...

[@nilz6432]

Looking forward for the rebuild, i hope we will se a lot of hammer and driver action when changing the bearing races, bronce bushings etc.

[@FMuscleZ28]

You started the wrong way around on that diff, you always open the fill plug first, for quicker draining, but more importantly, not to get stuck with an empty diff and a seized on fill plug.

[@markstott6091]

Brilliant vid. Only thing I would add is that everything you did also applies to the Discovery. 'Cos it's exactly the same as the one I had.

[@the_hamrat]

Discovery 1. On the 2 it's all completely different

[@regsparkes6507]

If you can hear a bearing rolling over, replace it, don 't 'clean them' it's just not worth the aggravation. Interesting video, I'd like to see more of this, i.e. where there's no stopping for a cuppa and a chat, although, a separate video on that is always welcome, as you've done here, I see.

[@EleanorPeterson]

This kind of task just doesn't seem right without a mechanic standing nearby, arms folded, shaking his head, sucking air through his teeth, making tut-tut noises and muttering... 🤔 "Ooh, costly job, Guv'nor... You see, the problem you've got there is -" 😁

[@fatihbural7845]

This is better than the Wheelers Dealers show because we can see every detail about how the mechanics work and also the talent that Edd shows us is much more fun and informative instead of Mike's bargain. Greetings from Turkey.

[@neiltonks]

Perfect start to the weekend

[@eddchina]

Thanks very much, enjoy the show!

[@jubiletabustamanteserrano2446]

BUEN TRABAJO AMIGO FAENA COMPICADA LOS GRUPOS

[@metz_86]

Does anyone else spot the "hidden" frames in Edd's videos, such as this one about Shims: i.postimg.cc/vmH42v6x/shims.png

[@peterlennon1139]

Much better 😉

[@MrAcuta73]

Watching this makes me dread what is to come. I have to rebuild/re-gear both my differentials, then beef up/truss my Ford 8.8. Chromoly shafts, C-clip elimination, etc. NOT going to be fun time. LOL

[@jaysteele1031]

5:47 Blimey - two HubNuts? All that's needed now are three furiousdrivings, a brace of Harry's Garages and a Tyrrell's Workshop or two ...

[@Baron3D]

Interesting. :)

[@Paulscnccreations]

You should always remove the fill plug first then the drain plug.

[@marklelohe3754]

To check the half shafts correctly one should crack detect the wear step on the splines which is where a fatique crack starts---- this is what causes them to fail.

[@McRocket]

Question? Edd? Who picks the music for each episode? They do a great job of choosing different but interesting music, every time. Well done to them! ☮

[@jorgealexiechumacerorosado4292]

Como siempre un lujo de cirugía

[@michaelhusselbee2087]

It would be interesting to many if you could do a piece on how you organize your work flows, and how you know what piece goes back in what order. Or is it years and years of experience?

[@RoadhogRNA]

I love these old RRs but i swear that looks like a fortune in parts..

[@ToreDL87]

Yay! More mechanical fiddling! The construction of those Range Rovers impress me, now I see why John couldn't actually kill it off even if he wanted to. Rear axle might "just" be a live axle (solid from one side to the other), but that's a full float axle which means hub and halfshaft ride on their own separate bearings, which is allegedly the stuff of legends when it goes for offroading, and very highly sought after in motorsport as well (Escort MK1/2's such as Mckinley's & Frank Kelly's all use full float Atlas axles).

[@billbeyer657]

The reason full floaters are desirable is because the only load on the axle is rotational. All of the weight bearing is done by the stub axle. But even if you get a little throttle happy and break an axle the vehicle will still roll and all you lose is drive to that wheel instead of the wheel falling off and disabling the vehicle.

[@ToreDL87]

@@billbeyer657 I've non-floaters break but hub cap still holds hub on. Even so, full floaters are still desireable, I really want an Atlas axle for my drifting needs.

[@billbeyer657]

@@ToreDL87 not familiar with the “hub cap” style axles. Generally when flanged axles break they depart from the housing rather quickly.

[@peterwarner8541]

Great video. I’ve spent thousands having the hub seals fixed on my defender over the years only for someone to point out it was just some oil leaking out of the dust covers. I was always too nervous to tackle it in case I didn’t put it back together properly and the wheel came off but with this guide I’d definitely do it. I’d understood those lock washers were one time use but clearly not!!!

[@chuxmix65]

If you're nervous about metal fatigue you can bend over a different section of the washer.

[@renaudcalmont]

There's something in Steve's calm voice that reminds me of HAL... Dave I'm afraid

[@ravinderpurewal9773]

I back Edd on talking on his technical level. If you don't know what a shim is then you should watch top gear instead....

[@mjg6966]

Top job Edd. Being nosy how much will the parts cost for the axle rebuild.

[@sonyhk3824]

Awesome

[@norbiesison9257]

The expense that one will incur for just those two axles must be eye-popping. Not for the weak of wallet!

[@MattBrownbill]

It was a bit of a shame that the solution to all the age and mileage related issues was new replacements, would be nice to see how to fix this on a budget.

[@ckite63]

Love the Workshop most when it focuses on nuts and bolts (however rusty) and not chit-chat. But what about a rough idea of what that axle rebuild is going to cost with new or used parts. That array of parts at the end of the video was massive and the re-use of the spline shafts probably a minor cost savings.

[@eddchina]

True, we’ll try to tot it up…

[@scottcates]

I'm here for the glugging.

[@fahimshaik2740]

I don't know much about mechanics though I love learning. I'm so pleased you go in-depth with your fixes and builds. I really love it. And I am slowly learning

[@Jack_The_Ripper_Here]

Crazy how long it takes to fix a car. How many things were wrong.

[@eddchina]

Many, many things are wrong!

[@MrGMawson2438]

Hello guys 👍

[@TECsta76]

Reincorporating tons of value back into this motor should be this project’s crucial selling point, that would catalog it as a worthy source… Bead shine all them parts and chemical protect (like galvanise) oh orange one.. 👍🤝🍊

[@boldorboy08]

I really enjoy your clips Ed, but enough with the flash graphics eh? It's too difficult to pause playback accurately, so whatever they say is lost. just my 2 cents worth.

[@antonisantonis655]

6:26 congrats for putting the very nice music of greek bouzouki

[@williamwales6619]

Every day watching you in action is a school day.Love the way you explain what you are doing. Been watching your stuff for a long time. Watching this as well. It's gonny be expensive but good to see a "Wreck" put back on the road.

[@andrewfrance1047]

This series shows the huge mountain of work and expense involved in restoring a vehicle. The deeper they go the worse it gets. It's great to see someone else doing it rather than me. It sends me the important message: DONT' TRY THIS AT HOME.

[@assepa]

Yeah I'm curious what that big stack of refurbished parts costs?

[@wurly164]

@@assepa since you clearly see who is supplying the parts, many are most likely donated

[@wolfiemcwolf6617]

I agree and disagree in equal measures. Don't spend $40k rebuilding a $30k vehicle. It is relative though. An old Torana here in Aus will sell for significantly more than the investment. I would say that the biggest secret to this sort of work is: Don't over capitalise on the rebuild. With the single exception being, if you have the money and a very firm emotional attachment to the vehicle.

[@Russeljfinch]

It should be expected in a vehicle that has been neglected like this one.

[@assepa]

@@wurly164 yeah but for those of us not having a youtube channel with a million followers... it would probably cost a bunch

[@tomsurrey2252]

Great video BUT, (in all honesty), a waste of time and I KNOW Paul thinks this, too! WHY you needed someone's help, avoids me! A GREAT advert for BRITPARTS! This will cost a lot of money and could be spent on a decent motor!

[@tipeneuriti5489]

Hi Kiaora from New Zealand ,a hunter GLS sedan 120 HP A KOOL FORGOTTEN ROOTES GROUP KNOW AS TODD MOTOR'S NZ IN THE 20YRS ENDING IN THE 80S

[@etclarke]

"how old do you think this vehicle might be?" I asked "drop the subframe, whip the axles out and check the material type of the swivel joint.... easy" says China

[@georgelucasdeoliveira8108]

Greetings from Brazil! Love your show Edd!

[@paoloviti6156]

Now I'm beginning to see serious stuff here with proper handling, new parts and so on. Really looking forward to see the next following video on those axles! Good job as always!👍👍👍

[@Phiyedough]

All those parts look so solid and meaty, totally OTT for the school run, which is what a lot of Range Rovers get used for!

[@GasketGaz]

If you do much more than the school run those solid and meaty parts break!! The axles are the weak link on these old land rover’s

[@Norwegian_Bastard]

@@GasketGaz axles are semi good. stock halfsahfts are cheese. broken some out my driveway. 7 of them in a few months, ashcroft heavyduty and ive done a wheelie, drifted it in rwd. 4th gear burnouts. blown trnansmissions, tboxes and a diff center. 10 times less wear than those 10 spline shafts in the rear of this rover axle. hahaha

[@IDontWantAHandle101]

@@GasketGaz if you want to be sure to break axles buy diff lockers ;)

[@RaulTG1982]

Menudo currazo, y las esferas de la dirección siempre me llamaron la atención en el Land Rover de mi tío, ¿¿no llevan ningún tipo de lubricación para que el pulido que tiene, no lo desgaste el oxido ni la suciedad que cogen por el camino??, deseando ver el siguiente capitulo, preparo palomitas y refresco.

[@jagvette1]

At last Edd's back to working on cars, thank you. Get the swivel re chromed, China is the environment problem not a bit of chroming.

[@andyrbush]

My top tip with stubborn drain or fill plugs is to threaten them with dire consequences if they don't come out quietly. Some detailed cursing too I find surprisingly effective at softening them up, just in case they do put up a fight. I learnt this from my Dad, who had been a WWII REME mechanic. I also learnt to take out whichever plug you fancied first, because the others were going to have to come out one way or another. You can't just give up and be beaten by a simple drain or fill plug. Not if you are a real mechanic.

[@bazrobertson9160]

Edd give salvage rebuilds UK a bit of advice if you can, they having trouble with range rover sure they would appreciate a bit of advice

[@captaintoyota3171]

Old Diff grease man i popped a 60yr old ford 9inch and that smell stayed on my hands for 2weeks. Nasty stuff

[@Corialtavi]

My question is for Britpart. Did Edd clean up after himself after leaving so much rust on your floor. 🙂

[@reburdoc4647]

I would shim up the pinion bearing then fit wheels and spin up and listen to the sound under load then on wheel overrun without adding oil... Then decide what to do... Also remember original bearings even worn have a much deeper hard surface than Chinese replacements...

[@BlackRose-vi2yg]

Never touched a car part in my life but still like watching the dude Edd get right in there. Watching this while watching an old wheeler dealer episode when they take on a BMW 8 series 🤘🤘

[@gussyshield2456]

Thanks Ed, just about to do my 1987 90”

[@joelfcant]

Glad to see you are using Timken bearings rather than the britpart special chinesium ones that are guaranteed to fail within 100 miles.

[@Norwegian_Bastard]

Rule No.1 of landrover work. never use Britpart, unless its the only option or you know its a good part. they sometimes have stuff that dont fall apart instantly. bearings is big nono to go britpart. timken or dont change them, same for seals. corteco or genuine landrover branded. nothing else imo. would also change them splined conections out. going to be loads of clunking every time you let off the gas or set off after reversing or opposite, from experience. have changed the entire drive line of my d1 to get the slop out, i let of agressivly the car engine brakes and thats it, no clunk no nothing. even had to change the clutch to get that bit of slop in the splines of the friction plate out :P

[@norbiesison9257]

Oh, that doesn't sound too encouraging. I thought they offered quality parts for Land Rovers. Looks like they're choosing shit suppliers for some of the parts just to keep the prices low. Bad!

[@Norwegian_Bastard]

@@norbiesison9257 they use the cheapest metals. lowest grade plastic/rubber for seals. only thing i have found to work well was their clutch. handled hard abuse with a 200tdi running 35psi of boost, burnouts in 3rd gear, fourth it finally spun the last life of the clutch out. was a stock clutch aswell. 2 years of offroad and on road abuse. proud of that little fellar

[@PerWendelboe]

10/10 for Steve's glasses, I want a pair :)

[@nigelbarton8350]

I can’t believe how many people have had to jump in with the “undo filler plug first comment”. It is completely valid when doing a service- you don’t want to risk gettng stuck with no way to fill oil. But here, not really, it has to come out one way or another, you can’t say “oh I won’t rebuild the axle then as I can’t undo the filler plug” can you?

[@andyrbush]

Exactly!

[@CBerry939]

Hi Ed I think you need a proper formula to get us intrested again. Get yourself down Copart. Take us through the buying process then competition or raffle the finished car with buying online tickets. Simples …. All those in place you must be on a winner … 10% of 1 years subs thanks (lol)

[@christhjian9923]

One of the best episodes yet. I really enjoyed the specialist sections on Wheeler Dealers and today too of course.

[@BraxxJuventa]

Awesome video again from you Edd! Thank you! 👍😁