1988 Ford Mustang On3 Turbo Stock Block Stock Cam 70mm DYNO TIME! Project HOTWHEELS!

[@justingriffith1370]

Love the color. 400 rwhp is plenty for a fun street car. Not everything has to have a 1000hp.

[@Neomustangs]

Thanks man. I agree sometimes 400 is way more fun!

[@CopperheadGarage]

Fuck you can have fun with 200hp

[@fastcarsandbaddecisions]

Yes it does!!!😂😂😂

[@CanIbeFrank]

You're my favorite channel on KZbin. Keep it up. I'm building a 408w for my 95 Mustang. Hopefully the car will be "done" by the winter

[@Neomustangs]

Thanks man! Im glad to hear that!

[@Wellcee426]

I've been watching your vids for years I have an sn95 with afr65s/ comp cam etc. on a stock block bored .040 over with just some speed pro hyper pistons tuned with quarter horse also with the same basic rear setup and it's fun still needs a lot of tlc ran out of money tho but I drive it all the time. I love you and sloppy mechanics for pushing the boundaries of basic setups and stock bottom ends. Really appreciate that your doing this with Ford motors as well it's very useful to know how far to go and what fails.

[@scottsummers8167]

Car's looking a running good! Love a GT car and really like the Sonic blue paint with those black wheels

[@kevindavis5966]

Beautiful car, makes me miss my '91 LX. Bought it new and had 15 fun, trouble-free years with that car. Never sell yours.

[@Neomustangs]

Right on!

[@RPJs-Cuisine]

I love that loud ass blue!!! I got faith in u! She will make some power!

[@Fairfa666]

Nice job man. Near 400 hp is pretty good for what you have done with a stock block.

[@LamborghiniX09]

Good Stuff! Impressive none the less for all stock with just boost.

[@Neomustangs]

I think so too. I appreciate comment

[@craigmcleod5032]

Beautiful sounding car , wish I had mine back.

[@ICYASIAN95]

That blue is crazy

[@natedaniel4489]

I just bought a 89 notchback that I'm about to do the same set up.

[@paulkendall34]

The spec clutch and billit flywheel is nice I just changed mine 3 days ago along with bran new t5 heavy duty from lmr so far drives great.

[@Spad68]

Fix the clutch , maybe switch the intake. , not sure if you have electric fans. Arp head bolts tb and maf upgrade. Again not sure if those are done. Youll see more then 400 . Very cool . Your set up is the funnest and most reliable . When shit hit the fan just swoo out or tebuild motor. Worked on one simple as yours . On3 .plus intakes , maf , tb, headers , fan pulley , msd are 1.7 scorpion rockers .(we advanced the can after rockers were done ) heads studs electric water pump. We wanted everything to be easily removable or interchangeable with out and issues . We pusted 13 psi . She ran for years . We beat the F out of it . Made a little over 440 hp at the wherl on a very safe fat tune . We did switch to a similar sized borg Warner turbo instead of the on3 one . My car was a vortec s trim . Did the same mode and revved it higher but wasn't able to quite hit 440+ hp range . Eventually i put a B cam , long tube 1 3/4 headers with X instead of an H pipe Anderson pipe and tuners. 450 hp . All day long for years with cold a/c .

[@Neomustangs]

It was over 400 way it was. The point is to make power with nothing but factory parts. Not gt40... the factory mustang stuff. Stay tuned soon I’ll be back at Dyno with same combo and it’ll be different watch

[@franciscohuerta9860]

bad ass color on that fox.

[@vflyg]

Nice video keep the pushrod engines alive.🏆🥇

[@christopherdittmann3000]

I ran 500whp for 7 years without blowing the stock block and stock t5 with a good clutch...its all about the tune

[@joe2825]

Stock computer? Who tuned, just a chip?

[@whatsreallygoingon253]

Thats because most 5.0 mustang have forged internals from factory i know theres a couple years they stoped putting forged rods and pistons i think it was 94 and 95

[@whatsreallygoingon253]

But there are reports of the block cracking at over 500

[@christopherdittmann3000]

@@joe2825 stock computer with sct chip

[@christopherdittmann3000]

on yup my 91 had forged internals...but still a stock block. That's why I said you still need a good tune

[@claudiomozena4633]

I wanted your help I live here in Brazil and I don't have much knowledge of 302 engines. i have a mustang gt 95 v8 i put a turbo kit is the engine and stock how much is the power limit thank you if you help me....thanks

[@jimboard927]

What exhaust you running? Sounds great. Mine doesn’t sound like that with a turbo. What gears in the rear? Thanks!

[@Neomustangs]

None, if thats on the dyno then its open down pipe. It doesnt get exhaust until after it leaves ( i have a cut out section)

[@royrichardson9164]

Very nice

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

These blocks are not too boost friendly. I hear people blowing them out at 550whp. I hear some holding together at over 700. I guess the casting process fared better on some blocks than others, or perhaps the tune is where it's at. My coworker has a 347 with an on3 kit getting finished up, looking for 550whp. He fully expects to crack the block, then he's gonna throw the setup into another one. Nice car man!

[@Neomustangs]

Bruh I been bending and breaking these blocks for 20 years. It’s in the tune. Period.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

@@Neomustangs oh okay, not asking you to spill secrets but is it in the timing or boost they run? Not an expert by far I imagine it has to do with cylinder pressure/temp? Either way, I'm glad you and him are running Windsors and not LS swapping like the rest of these guys.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

Nevermind, coworker said the trick is to run no timing when you boost it. Keep your secrets lol

[@DongaRacing]

Hi Bro, how much HP can handle the OEM Ford 302 BLOCK? Thanks...

[@Neomustangs]

Depends on tune, weight and many other factors. THere is not magic number.

[@DongaRacing]

@@Neomustangs thanks for youre answer, we just set 511WHP and 572lbs/torque on my brother Mustang with 18psi, On3 Performance Turbo, pump fuel and water/methanol injection but we are thinking if we can get more haha, we follow youre channel you make Nice projects 👌🏻💪🏻

[@Neomustangs]

@@DongaRacing THats a lot of PSI for a stock block. Nice number!

[@DongaRacing]

@@Neomustangs he just rebuild the engine with forged conneting rods and forged pistons, and MLS head gaskets, but we are worried about the block could explote hahaha

[@franciscocortez1030]

Where did you buy the turbo kit or did you buy everything seprate

[@Neomustangs]

I had pieces and parts from others

[@RangerOutlaw]

Awesome bro

[@doublerrated6735]

Color is gorgeous! What color is that

[@Neomustangs]

Sonic blue and thanks !

[@jordanmorrow3494]

If you don't mind me asking. What shifter and knob are you running to be able to slam gears like that?

[@frescali3030]

That on3 gives me a haaadon 👍😂

[@svtbird9613]

Is this turbo what some people call a "T70"? Trying to find a turbo for my explorer swapped Tbird SC.

[@Neomustangs]

No this is a precision 76

[@isaacabernathy8819]

how do u control ur boost cause i wanna run like 12lb of boost and make what u made so how would i run 12lb will the tuner take care of that?

[@Neomustangs]

Manual boost controller.

[@FishingWithJo415]

I got a 91 lx that I’m building, I’m saving for afr heads and a n41 cam. Seeing this video man I’m thinking of just bolting on a on3 turbo. What do you suggest me do?

[@ryanbarstad2951]

Joel Fierros, Dannie Addair, AKA-NEOMUSTANGS is a wealth of knowledge, he’s the biggest reason I got into the boost game.. I can’t express how much he helped me along the way, from getting my first kit to install and all the way through my dyno tunes at TI-Dyno.. He’s a great guy and if he tells you something or gives you advice, it’s no bull ! I wish you luck with your build, and if you’re lucky, maybe Dannie with guide you along the way. #NEOMUSTANGSFTW !

[@FishingWithJo415]

Hopefully he does, really want to do a good turbo build car now. Love what he has been doing with the push rod motors. Everyone telling me to just put a ls engine in it but no I’m not going to do what everyone’s doing. I’ll rather build my 5.0.

[@Neomustangs]

Thanks Ryan for all the kind words. Glad I could be part of your experience. Your a cool guy to know.

[@FishingWithJo415]

Neomustangs what do you suggest me do?

[@FishingWithJo415]

Neomustangs I went to my first drag races in Sacramento ca yesterday and I loved it. I’m used just doing donuts and seeing people do them out here in the bay area but really loved seeing cars drag race plus my daughter loved it too.

[@fire1418]

Love it man!!! Trying to figure the turbo game out. did you customize the ecu or ?

[@Neomustangs]

Yes its a 4 bank SCT eliminator chip we burn the final run tune on it.

[@5PointSlow]

What color is that sonic blue?

[@Neomustangs]

Yes!

[@m350gt]

Was wondering what kind of tuner you were using on your foxbody during this session? And what type of mass air flow sensor?

[@Neomustangs]

SCT ba5000. Quarterhorse was tuner

[@m350gt]

@@Neomustangs thank you

[@BlacPanAlston]

Hey Neomustangs what kind of exhaust setup do you have if you don't mind me asking ? because it sound nice

[@Neomustangs]

Simple 3” with a muffler. However there is a cutout on the Dyno.

[@BlacPanAlston]

@@Neomustangs okay thanks for replying back to me.

[@afri1414]

I'm making 320 hp to the wheels with a HCI swap on a stock 1988 shortblock. I need to purchase a turbo kit to get to the next level.

[@bryanroupe8646]

Build your own like I did. I built my hot side and most of my intercooler piping for $30. Scrap 2.5 exhaust tubing from the local muffler shop. Flipped bbk short headers, $60 Ebay intercooler and a used 69mm vs racing unit. All the money went into the fuel system and it's about to get re done.

[@afri1414]

@@bryanroupe8646 I want it to work. I'm not as talented as most people. I'm not sure if I should keep my SBF and turbocharge it or go '03-'04 Cobra Terminator swap.

[@bryanroupe8646]

As long at theres no exhaust leaks should be fine. I cant weld for shit and did it with a $100 harbor freight welder. Doesnt have to be pretty mine isn't. Just get the materials and start sticking shit together. I'm a pushrod guy. Not really a huge fan of the modular stuff.

[@bryanroupe8646]

Buy a Super charger and throw it on.

[@afri1414]

@@bryanroupe8646 I have to check again, but Vortech and Procharger don't support '86-'95 cars anymore. I know Hellion doesn't. I was going to order a kit and it's not on their website anymore. I have to check On3's website again. I know their kits aren't available through American Muscle or LMR either. 5.0 parts are drying up.

[@slickhomieseal6376]

What kind of blue is that and where’s you get it? Cleanest fox I’ve seen

[@Neomustangs]

Sonic blue

[@chriszabelicky6171]

Sick build. You in pa?

[@Neomustangs]

North east Ohio.

[@rogelioesquivel6356]

What oil filter you running

[@Neomustangs]

M1-102

[@raulh802]

I read that the on3 turbo should use 60 lb injectors, how does the work with 42 lb ?

[@Neomustangs]

Just fine. Really

[@justinkostelecky6201]

What kinda of fuel pump are you running?

[@Neomustangs]

A direct wired 340 in tank

[@bryanroupe8646]

So I just blew up my 302. Right around 16-17 psi it went super lean(seen 18psi several times.) Still dissecting why that happened. I have another engine but it's right around 10.9:1 comp. What do you think about 10.9-1 and 10psi ? Girdled, fordged pistons, 114 race fuel ? It's getting boost either way just looking for some input from the man ? Respect.

[@Neomustangs]

If it was E85 I’d say send it but 114 with 10.9 CR on 10 pounds isn’t doing you much of a favor. You could try it I guess. Probably be ok. But again that’s a lot of money replacing if your wrong.

[@seanem7261]

Bring the cr down to 8.5-9.0

[@Neomustangs]

Nah compression mid 9.5-10 is a sweet spot. At least for me its always been.

[@seanem7261]

Neomustangs can you apply that to most gas engines for boost or just the sbf?

[@bryanroupe8646]

No way I like the grunt of a higher comp engine. May throw on a thicker gasket it has a .039 .. I'm probably going to just take a few and set it up for e85. Been wanting to for a minute just been putting it off.

[@texdevildog9174]

I am shocked that you didn't split the stock block. I had a friend that split his stock block with a turbo.

[@Neomustangs]

God no. It’ll be fine for years. Check out my other videos. 380-400 we just getting started.

[@jnvolion1]

What size belt or part number is the serpentine belt

[@Neomustangs]

66” ? But that number will be off pending on crank size

[@jnvolion1]

I’m running a under drive pulley thanks for the info

[@anthony8194]

Is this a stock 302? How is it lasting?

[@Neomustangs]

Yes it is.

[@angelokoukoulis9646]

hmmmmm what’s up with that thunderbird sc @ 2:15??!!!

[@Neomustangs]

THe dude I tune with is the super coupe jesus. AKA The mad scientist Dave Dalke.. Its how he learned how to tune EECIV was from birds.

[@angelokoukoulis9646]

Neomustangs NO WAY YOU TUNE WITH DAVE?! indirectly know him through facebook going to need him to work on my sc soon lol

[@Neomustangs]

Angelo Koukoulis Yes he and I are good friends.

[@kevinjohnson9372]

What part of ohio are u guys from

[@dylanmerriner2702]

What's the max timing you run @ 15ish psi??

[@Neomustangs]

I’m not running 15. I’m running 12.5. And it’s 15 degrees

[@dylanmerriner2702]

@@Neomustangs my bad I thought I saw somewhere you ran 15ish at one time I plan on running 16 or so on a budget build blow through setup I'm locking my timing at something mild and running it, built engine though not just stock block, love the vids man

[@Neomustangs]

yeeyee rmz250 ya my old stock block GT40 build I ran 15 degrees.

[@alvinmann7675]

Car looks damn good... 93 not e85?

[@Neomustangs]

Ty

[@alvinmann7675]

What valve springs did you go with?

[@Neomustangs]

Alvin Mann Trickflow 2500-100

[@alvinmann7675]

Awesome thanks man!

[@briangt1013]

What heads

[@Neomustangs]

whole block is stock. minus head studs and valve springs.

[@briangt1013]

@@Neomustangs really these thing make over 400 with the turbo and stock motor

[@Neomustangs]

Yep and im gonna make more. Watch you'll see. It will all be videoed too no cheating AkA porting, forged crank.. stroker etc.

[@austingudelski2361]

You should find Chris Watson on Facebook

[@Neomustangs]

Who do you think gave him inspiration years ago lmao

[@dmario5975]

410 lbs???

[@Neomustangs]

About that yes. 387/410 was final good run. THe run where the clutch smoked that was gonna be 400 +

[@whatsreallygoingon253]

The stock 5.0 block should be forged from factory

[@Neomustangs]

It is ....

[@easycomeeasygo8901]

.....not This was back before everyone had a thousand horse just to get to Walmart

[@Neomustangs]

Easy Come Easy Go the fox 87-92 was forged pistons TRW. Stamped right on them. Thanks tho

[@easycomeeasygo8901]

@@Neomustangs I always heard you'll crack the block before you blow the rotating assembly. I knew about the Pistons being forged. Though the myth was it was just on the 89 motor. Which turns out to be false from my recent search. Crankshaft however is cast. They say the rods are forged up to the year 2000 5.0. But most said if you plan to rev past 6500 you should get new ones. They do support a little over 700 horsepower but not for the long run. according to the machine shop I went to, I brought my rotating assembly from my boss 302 crate motor to the Machine Shop. The guy said these were only production 302 rods. He told me a few of the rods were slightly bent. So it's a good thing I didn't keep pushing the motor. The mahle Pistons and Eagle crankshaft are a Little Bit Stronger. Car was running on 93 octane only I did four passes on the track the rest was all Street driving 3 years worth, not a daily driver. So it got beat hard every time I drove it. Ford Racing had told me the rods in the crate motor we're good to 700 crank. Machine shop told me the rods were Factory rods that came in the production 5.0. So the rods will take 700chp, but they are not meant to take it for long. 500whp safely i bet. I was doing 638whp 670tq, on 93, stick shift. I remembered the TRW stamped on the underside of my 89 GTs 5.0. The wife went through a puddle of water in hydrolocked the motor... Big puddle, lol. Cylinder 1 and 8 had bent rods like bananas. When I disassembled the motor to see what the ticking noise was, I found a number 1 and number 8 cylinder or hitting the crankshaft because the rod was bent, lol. 8 months after the puddle. I ended up taking the rotating assembly out of my on high output 5.0 from a Thunderbird. I lost a little power but at least I still had a car👍

[@larrypugh9336]

My 93 stock block did 490 at the tires all ford except a S trim

[@TeamGeezer]

No way. That is 565 at the crank.

[@dvjracing5947]

I wish I had a dollar for every time you said "stock block"

[@mccoyji]

88 brah. 1 year too early

[@Neomustangs]

Not even sure what you mean....

[@yellowdoghnut45]

Gt40 swap and that thing will scream

[@Neomustangs]

The point was not to do the swap. But to see how exactly a bone stock motor would respond !

[@kevinjohnson9372]

It responded well

[@Neomustangs]

Beyond expectations

[@grapeeggplant3863]

Its not a matter of IF but WHEN that motor is gonna blow lol

[@Neomustangs]

Nope it’s why we tune

[@grapeeggplant3863]

@@Neomustangs you make it seem like motors have never blown on tunes before o.O

[@Neomustangs]

1LE Azul and you are making it seem like it’s gonna blow up on 380 Rwhp. Bro you seen my other videos lol?

[@Neomustangs]

Hell im more worried about the T5 than the motor and tune lol

[@joe2825]

My 93 cobra block split at 380rwhp, 9 psi. Took a couple years but it finally went.

[@mccoyji]

Lol. Nothing except 4 a lot...

[@Neomustangs]

what?

[@mccoyji]

Js, stock except for a lot.

[@Neomustangs]

Missing the point.....

[@mccoyji]

Am I? I guess

[@bertryan6401]

Question for you i brought my 94 mustang gt to the trans shop cause its popping out of 2nd gear and making a winding noise while driving. In neutral no in gear it makes this sound what would you pay for a rebuild on a t5 trans just making sure im not getting hit with a outrageous price.

[@Neomustangs]

I rebuild my own T5s. I can tell you a full rebuild kit alone from Tremec is like $350. Not including any gears/sliders/hubs that might need replaced. Popping out of gear sounds like a slider and a gear at least.

[@bertryan6401]

@@Neomustangs you were right it needs slider and 2nd gear and new bearings and new synchronizers and the flywheel needs turned. Question for you does the flywheel have anything to do with the power of the car?