1988 Soviet Afghan War: PAF F-16s Shoot Down Soviet Mig-23 Bombers | DCS Reenactment

[@shahzaibnadeem2949]

From shooting Soviet jets to Israeli F-16s to indian jets..PAF ,one of the most skilled, professional and strong Air force out there..PAF pilots are on a different level...

[@rambo7890]

lol mr delulu. when was the israli f16 shot. typical pak study nerd

[@muhammadsaleh7229]

PAF didn't shot Israeli f16s

[@faisal-ca]

Israeli Mirage (claim).

[@hiketee6159]

@@muhammadsaleh7229 We did. Most of the senoir Pilots in the Egyption and Lebonese Air forces WERE Pakistani trainers. And as a cherry on top those Pilots were awarded with Pakistani medals. Pakistan claimed those kills as its owns.

[@WarWolf__C7]

@@muhammadsaleh7229google saiful azam

[@Narrative711]

The magnificent PAF had 14 air battles against the Soviet air force.

[@DCSWORLDPAK]

Congratulations on 400K subs

[@ayangamer1286]

Yoo i love ur vids

[@OneGeneral2]

PAF proved that they have one of the best and experienced pilots in the entire world, just check what happened in 2019.

[@Orieni]

For MANPADS, consider that mishandling them can put cracks in the rocket motor, so if one group has trained people to rant and rave at anyone who drops one, and another group thinks of them as a sort of magic wand, you could easily get contradictory analysis of the available data.

[@jilanimalik9810]

The PAF F-16 squadron that flew CAP/interception sorties against the intruding Soviet/Afghan jets in the 80s was actually based at Kamra which is much further East of Peshawar.

[@CJWall_rott]

thanks for being my KZbin history teachers GR crew

[@syedayanather713]

Pakistan did received the AIM-7 missiles with the first batch of F-16s (this has been confirmed by U.S.A).They were kept in storage for critical use, F-16 were usually not armed with them as U.S feared they could have been used offensively.

[@FleetDefenderRA5]

I trust your analysis of the political aspects of it -- my 2 cents worth is that in the various simulations over the years, I had never seen the F-16 model A with Sparrows; I had presumed they did not have the capability early in their life and only developed it later; I certainly am open to correction.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@timonsolus]

@@FleetDefenderRA5 The early F-16A variants, the Blocks 1, 5 and 10, did not have Sparrow capability - but the later Blocks 15, 15OCU, and 20 were able to carry 2 Sparrows underwing. However, as mentioned above, the US was very reluctant to allow some F-16 export customers to routinely carry Sparrows and provided only limited numbers of those missiles.

[@FleetDefenderRA5]

@@timonsolus Thank you!

[@syedayanather713]

​@@timonsolusExactly and by the time the F-16 could've been armed with them, the sparrows became outdated with the induction of Advance AIM-120 AMRAAMS in the PAF

[@trev8591]

Perfect take-off. Almost perfect mission and a mil-sim landing? What have you done with the Grim Reapers!

[@DCSWORLDPAK]

The F-16s had Lima and Papa mix. 4 Sidewinders

[@grimreapers]

Thanks

[@DCSWORLDPAK]

@@grimreapers we have some very cool shots from that era in a book titled Defenders of Pakistan. The F-16s had LGB capability via the french Atlas POD.

[@impenetrablefortress1453]

​@DCSWORLDPAK it's a great book with a lot of illustrations.

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

You bring history to life.

[@seattlekarim964]

My silly thought while watching this: these graphics are way too good to be 1988.

[@junaidazam12]

I would like to recommend a Hollywood film, starring Tom Hanks , related to this particular conflict. The film's name is "Charlie Wilsons War". I personally enjoyed it and i think from both a historical view point as well as for just plain entertainment, you might enjoy it too .

[@arra_24s33]

Pakistan Zindabad 🇵🇰

[@Vtarngpb]

IIRC, PAF F-16’s initially didn’t have look-down, shoot-down radar 😉

[@m1995-u4y]

All F-16s had pulse doppler radar, if not then definitely the Block 15s in Pakistan had them

[@HughMessenger]

My daily ritual of dinner and a GR video.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

The Stingers are likely the FIM-92A model which only had a cooled IR Seeker head, FIM-92B model and later included a Ultraviolet Contrast seeker head in addition to the main IR seeker to discriminate against countermeasures. MI-24s also had their own countermeasures to defeat IR guided missiles like HIRSS and IRCM. FIM-92A and B were in production during this conflict but the B model only had limited production - we are on the FIM-92J and K models which added proximity fusing options

[@DCSWORLDPAK]

Since there's no Peshawar AFB on the map. Where are you guys taking off from?

[@CJWall_rott]

thanks Cap

[@McAllisterCo]

The Soviet Union lost between 15,000 - 26,000 men over 10 years of war in Afghanistan (1979-1989). The Russians lost that amount taking one town (Bakhmut) in Ukraine. Simply insane.

[@187A1]

Ukraine war is plagued with propaganda

[@nikhilannur]

Do you have any proof of these data ?

[@SherShahSuri-h2h]

Because one is guerilla war and the other is a conventional one.

[@ShakeelAhmad-pm2nz]

They were Mujahideen when fighting against Russians.. later same peiple became terrorists coz this time the opponent was US and NATO.😂😂

[@k.gaming_245]

Well, thats what the F-16 was actually built for "Dogfighting""

[@nigeldepledge3790]

The "mixed results" with the Stinger missiles was probably a better performance than the British Blowpipe man-portable SAM of the 1980s. It was notoriously difficult to use. One reason why this was so was the fact that it was heavy - IIRC, 64 lbs, of which half the weight was the missile. When the user applied the trigger to launch the missile, half of the weight of the unit suddenly disappeared off his shoulder (I'm talking about British infantry of the 1980s, hence "his"). The entire tube usually lifted upwards as it suddenly got lighter. Often, this would result in the end of the tube pushing the rear end of the missile upwards, causing it to fly straight into the ground about 50 - 100 yards from the soldier who just launched it. Anyone who scored a surface-to-air kill using a Blowpipe was either lucky or incredibly skilled.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@ashirtoor6497]

as a Pakistani , ill just say siding with the US was the biggest mistake we ever made, a mistake that effects us till this day .

[@enoy645]

Hi, will grim reapers make content on Sea Power when it releases?

[@jamison884]

Congrats on 400k supercap.

[@Tornado1861]

"sometime by accident"

[@muzasbar]

“Ghost Wars” by Steve Coll is a must if you wanna know the covert side of the Soviet-Afghan War and its aftermath

[@DollarsFlow24]

With F16 jets our pilot can shoot down any 4++ gen jet. Thats why still after getting jf17, j10c and may be in 2026 our airforce induct 5th gen J31 and till 2030 there will another 5th gen KAAN will be in PAF inventory and may be JF17's 5th gen variant also get in service but still PAF always have strong desire to induct lastest standards F16s in there fleet. PAF and F16s is some next level love affair.

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

The Soviet Union was like Mordor, an immense foe stretching from Poland to Korea, from Canada to Iran. Everybody got some action against them.

[@Ferociousplayz_11]

Pakistan was one of the countries that did the most harm to the Soviets.

[@herrzimm]

But if memory serves: When using the stingers in Afgahnistan, it was more of a basic "ambush" type of attack, especially against lower flying Hinds, often going in for (or returning) from ground attacks. Meaning that the HINDS themselves weren't flying that high, and were often ambushed from locations more in the mountains (which restricted levels HINDS could fly above ground level) and often without a full load of ammo or troops, except on the return missions where it would have more troops than ammo. Pakistan forces were firing from lower ground levels (closer to sea-level than Afghan fighters) and often attempting to take on "in-coming" Hinds that would have had far more warning and ability to evade. So, in regard to the "effectiveness" of the Stingers overall, it was more about HOW it was used and when. And in regard to the "overall effect" of the conflict, it was far more a POLITICAL problem for Russia than it was a military one. Although, it WAS a serious "threat" on a purely military level as well, but the politics became more of a problem for leadership than the threat to the military assets.

[@chrisstopher2277]

Love your afghanistan stuff. I've learned a lot from your videos. Shit I probably should have known before going. I enjoy it when you talk "bs" that's when the info gets interesting.

[@AAdab77]

F-16's never based in Peshawar. Most likely they were flown from Sargodha base. You guys need to gather a bit more basic info.

[@rawdyrider]

Might interest you to know that just after one such encounter a Pakistani F16 pilot reported that a very high speed object (ufo) had overtaken him at close quarters.....

[@impenetrablefortress1453]

No such claim was ever made

[@FleetDefenderRA5]

CAP: thanks for the title of the book. I WONDER IF the terrain had something to do with the missile kill ratio. If you are banking around a mountain and come upon a missile or fast track AAA, you would not stand much of a chance.

[@M.AbdullahAyub]

Afghandus on Shittok: Pakistan is our anamy saaar they phout with us and losee

[@CJWall_rott]

dang those fox 1 missiles suck

[@carloshosnymanasa8323]

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[@zeeshaneastchem7387]

paf operated from badabeir airbase.

[@soldier54]

Badaber isn't an airbase. The Peshawar base is an airbase

[@zeeshaneastchem7387]

@@soldier54 PAF Camp Badaber, formerly known as Peshawar Air Station, is a non-flying air force base of the Pakistan Air Force and a former United States Air Force-Central Intelligence Agency[1] listening post, used by the 6937th Communications Group from July 17, 1959 until being evacuated on 7 January 1970,[when the facility was formally closed.It was located in Badaber, a remote area about 4 miles (6.4 km) south of the city of Peshawar, Pakistan. However, since 2021, sixty-five U.S. Air Force personnel have been stationed at Camp Badaber.

[@zeeshaneastchem7387]

@@soldier54 pakistan is doing such activity every time instead of thinking for people of pakistan

[@AiInsights45]

first

[@matthewrowe9903]

Ok this killing Russians theme is wearing very thin and your interpretation of events is very biased hmm

[@therealistmccoy6237]

Lmao Russian shill detected 😂

[@JD-sb4ss]

29:39 you bet I did cap, I feel like you need more exposure I bet theres a lot more people whod like this content. Keep upping the production quality, I'm still holding out hope Simba starts streaming his cockpit view he's a baller

[@sufianansari4923]

3:46 NO! NO! NO! Lol, please don't read that book, Tom Carrew was a Walter Mitty (a fraud) outed at the time of this publications release 😁 thank you

[@Past1no]

I indeed entered a huge rabbit hole when looking up the book, one of the reviews luckily caught my attention and looked up an article regarding his death (a miserable one too, accidentally asphyxiated himself while living in a Garage), dude was not only a total fraud but who was OBSESSED by the SAS (for which he failed the selection for 2 times), he also abandoned his kids and had whole different name.

[@Past1no]

From the 2009 article from The Guardian newspaper about his death "In an interview with the Mirror in 2001, his daughter Claire, who Sessarego ( his real surname) had abandoned as a child, said: "Basically, if I'm going to be blunt about it, I think he is a twat. He never served in the SAS . He's just a fantasist who's trying to make money on the back of other people's reputations ... There are a lot of former SAS men who have scores to settle with him - but they thought he was dead. Now they know different and I wouldn't care if somebody killed him because he's brought it all on himself."

[@sufianansari4923]

@@Past1no exactly, he was talking utter garbage in the book, it contradicted everything in the Americans, The Pakistanis and the Brits said was going on in Afghanistan with regards to the running of the resistance in the area. He couldn't prove who he was, and the SAS made the public aware he was a fraud, a failure and only made it as far as goon troop. And yes like you said he was also a twat!

[@DollarsFlow24]

With F16 jets our pilot can shoot down any 4++ gen jet. Thats why still after getting jf17, j10c and may be in 2026 our airforce induct 5th gen J31 and till 2030 there will another 5th gen KAAN will be in PAF inventory and may be JF17's 5th gen variant also get in service but still PAF always have strong desire to induct lastest standards F16s in there fleet. PAF and F16s are some next level love affair