1k Aether T8 Infernal Hordes with Umbracrux Swap - Andariels Barrage Rogue Diablo 4 Season 5

[@m1py]

READ THE FAQ OF THE WRITTEN GUIDE: maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/andariels-puncture-rogue#faq-&-mechanics-header I don't have a Necro leveled yet for the temper so I just used Death Trap instead of Shadow Clone as shown in the planner. I swap in Umbracrux whenever I face the Bosses or the Infernal Butcher. My Gear is shown at the end of the Video. As I was gone for a week for a trip to Blizzard, it's quite mid-tier overall. Planner: maxroll.gg/d4/planner/tg1xc01v#3 Written Guide: maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/andariels-puncture-rogue

[@carver367]

What aspect do you use in place of umbracrux when it’s not swapped in?

[@Ser_VD]

@@carver367 i think its the one with damage when u have a barrier

[@mdouet]

How do you get Ultimate Cooldown on jewelry, am I missing that temper plan? Also, how do you keep energy up without a resource temper or aspect? I had to end up adding back in Starlight, even with Ring of the Starless skies, I was constantly running out of energy without it.

[@Ser_VD]

@@mdouet u can do it by leveling necro on ur account, this class have it, its the only way. With good amount of LHC and few points in innervation u wont have an y issues with resources

[@mdouet]

@@Ser_VDOk so same way we had to roll Crit tempers using a Rogue last season. 😂

[@mdouet]

Just swapped to this build after dropping an Andies, and it's night and day from the basic Barrage build, great build!

[@age2erre]

M1PY you need to address your guide on Maxroll, and explain what are the changes in the changelog. Swapping aspects from ring to amulet, changing ring stats, changing amulet masterwork, etc

[@MGunz05]

Edit: full changelogs in the written guide

[@m1py]

The written guide has a full changelog

[@age2erre]

Id like to discuss with you several improvements you can do on the guide. Asked Rob for your discord id but the friend request is still uncontested.

[@victorsoto4821]

highest i've gotten is 800 aether on T8 with gear that's not even min maxed, build is nutty for sure.

[@namonediesel]

Your build slaps so hard for me this season. Thank you!

[@ahero3945]

How did you get ultimate cd reduction for amulet on tempering?

[@sharozeJ]

By bricking it obviously 😂

[@kingjames9109]

@M1PY Had a question hopefully you’re willing to answer I’m playing a Flurry based build and I have a pair of Greater Affix Gloves with GA Dexterity and GA Flurry would it be better to put the 25% Masterworks into Dexterity or Flurry?

[@SOULK..]

Im using a VERY close to perfect build of this is really only reach 500 aether, is this a build issue or am i choosing the wrong boons? EDIT the max i have ever hit with this is like 830 or something.

[@cpt.tryhard6554]

Great showcase, luv the build. Though my lightning spear sorc seems to think that it feels a bit strenuous.

[@drmario7559]

you know how much rings i bricked trying to get stupid shadow per dark shroud smh ....

[@mdouet]

Bricked a great dagger thanks to this temper, grr.

[@drmario7559]

@@mdouet loool facts I'm about to only use non GA items for that temper I could have sold my triple GA for 3 BIL

[@bigyin9497]

@@drmario7559 anytime I get a non GA item it seems to give me the tempers I need with some spare.. Different story whenever it's a GA item💀

[@Mazz-Mayhem]

​@drmario7559 I've had a few, very good 3GA items brick on tempers when I could've sold them for all the cash I would need for the rest of the season.

[@cpt.tryhard6554]

Yep, I know the feeling and I will add 1 more. Do you know how many blacksmiths bricked how many rings and amulets (Especially the ones with GA's)... I now have a triple GA sword and I am too scared to tamper it.

[@juanamaral1570]

question: what's the significance of AP stat on this build? in town I'm at 22k And while attacking I just reached a high of 2.35 million AP does the AP show how strong this build is? or do you know what you have topped at?

[@CerneaAlex1994]

Is this setup better than the one with smoke grenade and shadow clone ?

[@psychicraider8811]

Im doing tier 7s should i styill swap out the Umbracrux and just use that for bossing amd use a dagger in mob phases?

[@MyNamelsSylar]

Is there any benefit to going over 100% Lucky Hit? I’ve tried to read that lucky hit explanation thing on Maxroll but I don’t get it

[@ravanlatifli3400]

@m1py I'got ideal amulet, but broke it with blacksmith, instead of damage per dark shroud shadow I've got smoke grenade size temper. Is it okay? Or I should get additional damage per dark shroud shadow from other gear?

[@ODDjs]

How in God's green earth do you maintain your mana pool.

[@Bruccipoo]

I got 2 Fist of Fate gloves. The one has GA on lucky hit chance but the lucky hit on crowd control is too low (2.6%) but the other one is no GA but decent specs(LHC 53%, crowd control 64%) . What would you use it if you gotta choose one?

[@PFunk609]

is there a strat for gettin more aether? also can i utilize the marketplace if i play on ps5?

[@itsame8470]

There's videos on how to do it. Basically you want to choose hellborne, aether lords and hellfire. If you can get hellfire to spawn those, even better. Don't choose anything to do with spires or masses, because it seems like it makes them more likely to appear instead of hellborne.

[@illuriouz]

nice! any gear or planner update since ur last video?

[@Aka_daka]

I got 1200 + on my sorc. I'm a main rogue but once u play sorc in infernal hordes it's hard to go back.

[@bigyin9497]

Depends what build you play. I literally stopped playing sorc cause it was messing up my hand😂 Constantly spamming FO and LS and everything else every 2 seconds

[@glenmcl]

​@@bigyin9497use Controller. Hold down all the buttons. Easy.

[@boyfromhelll]

What do you think about doombringer? Will you consider that as an option?

[@mdouet]

I was running it for awhile, but ended up swapping it for a normal dagger, DPS is definitely better without it, and I still have plenty health to sustain.

[@tylin520]

Could you explain more about why the threshold of Lucky Hit Chance is 203.33%? Does it mean 20% poison nova proc chance is guaranteed? or for some other machanism

[@thecheecko]

yea its not 100% proc. dont know what drugs they are on lol. it just means they attack so fast that it procs it often and more.

[@makarsk]

Can you share your full keybinds for a WASD scheme?

[@Hejti_]

I saw you have GA Dex everywhere but not GA Dmg Over Time, is it because ga dmg over time doesn't do that much for the build or its worth paying a lot more for double GA items?

[@itsame8470]

It's 100% worth double GA items. I swapped my non-GA daggers for a 3 GA / 2 GA with Dex, HP and DOT, with only one dex roll being non-GA. It made a huge difference in how much damage I do. Even swapping out Umbacrux for the 2 GA results in noticeably more damage on multiple targets, whereas with a non-GA with the same tempers it wasn't really noticeable. I got mine by farming T8. I know most people prefer T7, but I get more GA gear from T8.

[@markchua3808]

What tempers do you put in the amulet? I can’t find ultimate cooldown reduction.

[@m1py]

Necro has them

[@TCSxDivine]

It's a Necromancer temper. Same concept as last season when we used the rogue to temper in crit damage.

[@rdzona]

What is giving you the artillery shrine effect?

[@M4SiiiiiiiiiiK]

Tyrael’s Might special perk

[@ishan4293]

Hey do you need High Velocity aspect on amulet or ring?

[@age2erre]

amulet

[@m1py]

Amulet to make reaching 182.5% AS easier

[@kennymeyer1821]

I've got 204,3% lucky hit chance but when I'm hitting training dummies, the bursting venom pools don't trigger Andy on every tick like it says on your guide. Does it work for you on training dummies? The pool deals damage 7 times but usually only procs 1-2 andy times for me...

[@m1py]

www.reddit.com/r/D4Rogue/s/VAhre1uCTE

[@kennymeyer1821]

@@m1py awesome, now i got it. thanks!

[@PushbakYT]

Question - if I wanted to replace Dash with Smoke bomb is that more dmg? or is it better to keep Fluidity up 100% with both agility skills?

[@m1py]

Smoke Bomb is taken in the maxDPS variant for that exact reason

[@PushbakYT]

​@m1py gotcha. Is there any other breakpoints other than no witness unlock for shadow clone? I don't have ultimate CD so should I just stick with death trap?

[@mysticmythgaming3145]

Can the new heartseeker build hang?

[@MrYangstar007]

poison trap over caltrop if you chose to play mobility?

[@cwm33]

HI. How do you constantly keep up with only 2 stacks poison imbue with no imbuement tempers on accessories?

[@m1py]

Prep, Bursting Venoms, Mixed Poison Imbuement

[@celalisik2255]

hey M1PY, can you pls tell me what Lucky hit chance i need (IN THE CITY!!!) + passives etc. to proc my 100% Breakpoint Andy?

[@m1py]

You wanna sit at around 170% lhc in the city

[@celalisik2255]

@@m1py hey m1py can you pls help me. I have in the City 185% Lhc and have a GA alchemical. How often do i have to crit, i mean how many ranks do i need on my GA Amulet to proc 100% andy etc. ?? Thanks!!

[@0x1337root]

How can you attack and move at the same time? Is it holding wasd movement keys and just tap the barrage with mouse clicks or are there any other trick to do this?

[@m1py]

Hold barrage, then use WASD to move in between attacks without losing any time doing so

[@0x1337root]

@@m1py When I hold barrage and try to move with wasd, the character does not move. The root cause is 11 frame thing or any other option that I missed?

[@thevagrantgaming]

@@0x1337root I literally just spam click my left mouse button to move

[@0x1337root]

@@thevagrantgaming I figured out. M1PY was right. Somehow my control options was bugged. I changed keymap one by one and revert them back as usual. The hold barrage and move with wasd was worked after that. Thanks for your nice build and help bout that kite thing @m1py

[@LewdLamia]

When I have well above 203% Lucky Hit Chance, I can use the points from Alchemist's Fortune for something else, right?

[@EataTwixX]

No.

[@ImmolationBloom]

Hey M1PY love your content brethren, I have a GA Andy on Attack Speed - what is the best course of action in regards masterworking! Much love from the sunshine state 🌞

[@m1py]

In that case go for life on hit 1x and 2x all stats :)

[@ImmolationBloom]

@@m1py Cheers brotha!

[@Monnk1zornOfficial]

Hi MYP1. You should try to swap out the umbra dagger with Doombringer. I tested it, and you clear the waves faster. Everything melts in an instant.

[@tamertsmr]

I tried that and while they do die faster I seem to run out of energy quick

[@glenmcl]

​@@tamertsmrEnergy+9 on the boots instead of Dodge. You're welcome.

[@teanymonster5227]

funny that your masterworking rolls and even your tempers are nearly 1:1 with mine xD even on the boots and stuff haha

[@NhanNguyen-xk]

How much of a difference between 12 frame vs 11 frame attack speed?

[@m1py]

Pretty significant, less frames per attack means faster&more procs, more heals, faster energy generation/spending for prep, so faster cooldowns etc.

[@NhanNguyen-xk]

@@m1pyi managed to get rank 9 Alchemical but i noticed that you updated the maxroll guide to just settle with rank 6 and move Velocity aspect to the ammy. What setup should i go with. I have a spare ammy with identical passive points. Also, i read Sanctum guide and he suggest that we should put Conceited on ammy because it gives higher dmg increase compared to Branching.

[@lukaszzaleskiewicz4392]

How big is the dps drop if we don't have an alchemical +6 advantage?

[@Erasey]

The amulet is a lot and mine is trash lmao

[@age2erre]

nothing, actually you want a +7 frigid finesse amulet

[@m1py]

Just go +3 (so 6 total) and use high velocity on amulet

[@gocguitars]

I switch to this build and its awesome with minor issue. I ran out of energy quickly. yet sometimes my energy boost up. what does it?

[@thevagrantgaming]

It's innervation. But without umbracrux you're severely lacking. So it's basically only usable in horde mode.

[@kupidonyx]

Bro, there's new variation appeared w/ chest that pulls mobs together. There's 147 pit clear with it. Do you think it's stronger then regular max dps varition w/ shadow clone?

[@glenmcl]

Yes it is stronger, cause an Asian guy found out you can put Dark Shroud on your skill bar, spam it, and become invincible. I forget what the chest piece is....can't find the vid again...can you tell me?

[@kupidonyx]

@@glenmcl One of the latest Rob2628 videos. But it's less dps, I don't think it's stronger comparing w/ shadow clone build BIS gear.

[@m1py]

Pit pushing usually requires very specific shenanigans. It's good to group mobs and solve defense. But it's less dps and will perform worse in hordes.

[@kupidonyx]

@@m1py thnx man, I see that rapid build has a slight edge in pit pushing right now though..

[@weih723]

awesome, been following your guide since last season. I've seen some top players drop bursting venom for conceited aspect, is it better? also how high can you go in pit? started to run into long boss fight at 140

[@m1py]

I did 140 without much trouble, gonna post 145 once I cleared it. Dropping BV is incorrect, we have reverified the formula for it and it only becomes very strong at high lucky hit chance. Check out the post on the D4Rogue subreddit about it

[@weih723]

@@m1py at end game build similar to your setup, how do you avoid being 1 shot by boss with 3 stacks of debuff? currently at 205% lucky hit chance after potion, still keep the BV?

[@brunoturossi]

M1py are you going to revive HS for this season too?

[@m1py]

I'll give HS a try for sure later down the line ;)

[@fadx76]

i have amulet with ga expliot and unstable alixer i roll tha attack speed to aa is it good to use guys?

[@Anakin93]

So, basically, Umbracrux is just for Single target damage? We use Double dagger same stats for everything else? P.s if i cap 203% lucky hit chance, without maxing alchemical advantage on amulet, can MW frigid finesse for more damage?

[@m1py]

Yeah umbra only for single target. I added a section in the written guide under faq and mechanics which explains it to great detail. About alchemical, remember you need 9 ranks total to hit 185% AS

[@Anakin93]

@@m1py Ok, so we need 9 point even if we cap lucky hit without it, got it. one last question : since we use another dagger, on the bow, can we MW Dark Shroud instead of triple MW on chance for barrage?

[@liviustanciu7550]

I use 2x mw on bow abd one on dagger​@@Anakin93

[@liviustanciu7550]

@@m1py ok so, I have 11.4 AS on gloves,29.8 on starless ring , 66% on andariel. That puts me at 100 % without close quarter. Now my question is do i need 9 ranks in alch ? or i get 30 % from close quarter / 25% from high velocity ? then i only need like 30 % from alch ranks... . hpw does close quarter apply its two bonuses? im a bit confused😕

[@justfire123]

@@liviustanciu7550 There are 2 attack speed sources. Gear and aspect/passives. Close quarter combat has a particularity that it's first 15% is applied to the first bucket and the other 15% is applied to the second bucket. On top of that, you still get multiplicative bonus based on your CC damage. I'm assuming you have some GAs on your gear to reach those AS breakpoints, otherwise you're MWing them incorrectly (since gloves + starless should be exclusively LHC). Not sure why CQC works like that, but it does. With that being said, you could replace CQC or even Alchemical advantage with other stuff, but it will have you changing the build. The second bucket is composed to (according to max roll): ‍- Close Quarters Combat (15%) ‍- Alchemical Advantage ‍- Accelerating ‍- Asheara's Khanjar ‍- Rapid ‍- Haste - Basic Attack Speed ‍- High Velocity ‍- Enhanced Heartseeker - Cutthroat Attack Speed (Tempering, unverified) Regards,

[@oceanslore]

I have the amulet with 6 (9 total ranks)Alchemy advantage, 2 crits in attack speed on andariel,close combat, high velocity aspect on ring, 15.5 on fists of fate and my attack speed is at 160% Any idea what might be slowing down the attack speed?

[@m1py]

High velocity doesn't show in the statsheet

[@FlySuper77]

Ultimate cooldown is on what class? Rogue doesn't have it. Unless im blind lol.

[@markchua3808]

I can’t find it either

[@m1py]

It's from necro

[@DemiGod-y1l]

Nice one, did you tried 2.0 breakpoint? I wonder if it is stronger instade of 1.85 breakpoint. Just add accelerating aspect on the dagger instade of poison imbued.

[@m1py]

There is no further reachable breakpoint than 185% for barrage. Going to 200% does not change anything. You can't have less than 11 frames per attack for barrage.

[@Ezelna03]

do i need spam press skill poison imbuent everytime not cooldown?

[@davidroa6270]

Wondering the same thing, i just smash all buttons lol

[@davidroa6270]

Anyone know a creator that make this kind of quality build for druids? I always enjoy M1PY content is goat

[@firepandaz614]

wouldn't %damage work better than dex or no? for example the ring has damage over time, lucky hit, and dex wouldnt %damage be better than dex for overall damage increase?

[@m1py]

No, damage% is just additive.

[@bar_fly4776]

1016 Aether in T7 got yesterday with standard Andy build

[@TheNatrix23]

Hey @m1py, Loving you build, been playing it since the start of the season. I have transitioned over to the max dps build and have all the rolls necessary. But I am running into a problem, not having poison imbue lasts for x casts has severely reduced my uptime on poison imbuement when doing t8 hordes and other content. Is this intended or am i doing something wrong?

[@m1py]

The thing is you don't need to permanently have poison imbue. With enough lucky hit, bursting venoms and use of prep you also have enough resets on PI. If you don't feel it playing well, you can go back to deathtrap with 1 +imbue temper. The difference between DT and Clone is not super high

[@vitaminndave2487]

My question is, what’s more important? 100% chance to cast barrage twice, or 80% chance with more damage with DS?

[@m1py]

100% chance

[@1707vince]

Sir m1py.. you dont have videos in pit level 130plus using this awesome build of yours..?

[@m1py]

Gonna post once I cleared t145

[@k8123kevin]

Thanks for sharing❤ Have 1 question: Why shadow clone ideally over death trap? Is it only for unstoppable?

[@m1py]

Pretty much yeah

[@k8123kevin]

@@m1py thank you:)

[@ThatOneDudeNick]

I gotta look over my stuff again. I'm depleting my energy after like a 2 second burst of barrage runs my poison imbue out, then I have to sit and wait for it to refill, even with starless skies. I need to look over the guide again to see what I'm missing. It's good enough to farm tier 8 but a little clunky until I get my energy sorted.

[@thevagrantgaming]

I've gone over it many times and tried the build for a while and I still can't get it to not feel awful

[@m1py]

Don't over use barrage unless there are plenty of mobs.

[@awnow-ry1qw]

Hey quick question, have 95,5% atk speed on 1st bucket (not including close quarters combat) bcuz of 1,6% atk speed shitty role on gloves, but with both buckets im at +183% atk speed so is it gonna works anyways? I mean close quarters combat should complete this first 95,5% to 100% am I right?

[@m1py]

Close Quarters will get you to 100% in first bucket yeah

[@JustDeacon]

I dont even know where I go to find an Amulet like that. Its like watching a myth.

[@lucasdelmasquiosilva8003]

😂😂😂

[@soloplayer000]

So we should be using exploit instead of frigid finesse like in the planner? Just confused.

[@curlyhairedgamer]

@@soloplayer000 prolly couldnt get it. having frigid finesse with those is extremely rare

[@curlyhairedgamer]

I got a GA unstable elixirs and rolled alchemical on it i was hype af

[@Ser_VD]

@@soloplayer000 Frigid is better for sure, unstable elixirs is meh imo, dex, frigid and alchemical advantage is the best

[@antoninmalite7280]

Build IS ok now ? I want try this 😉

[@m1py]

Has always been OK, go try it

[@pungimungibungi560]

Why not more aecond wind on amulet?

[@m1py]

More than 7 total ranks don't help generate more barrier.

[@bambucha1988]

When some TB build here? On maxroll I seen one 😅

[@m1py]

I'll do a TB video guide some time later down the season aswell :)

[@bambucha1988]

@@m1py ok Ill watinig and scare about how TB are nerfed all time for now

[@drmario7559]

boots show - DEX,LIFE-MOVEMENT in video but DEX,LIFE and DODGE chance in planner ?

[@m1py]

Planner says Dex dodge ms. I don't have everything perfect as in the planner cuz I was away for 1 week after season began.

[@nogz01]

M1py, your planner and the gear you showed are different. You made sure to not show your skill tree and paragon board, it makes me skeptical if I should follow your planner or not. Please showcase the exact build you used for this run.

[@wawito2346]

Yes pls real showcase

[@m1py]

The planner is the ideal setup. I don't have bis items yet

[@wawito2346]

@@m1py Ok ok Ty

[@Bimbimbambam282]

Bro, why on your guide it says 58 skill points, but when i count them by myself it always 59? I cant replecate the skill build i am always 1 off skillpoint

[@Bimbimbambam282]

and one more question. Your andariel guide says for maximum dps to use another skill build then you show on this video. Why?

[@Bimbimbambam282]

aswell on your guide, your ring has temper of ultimate coolddown reducation witch is impossible to get right now.

[@m1py]

You can get it if you temper with a necro

[@m1py]

Skill points seem fine on my end

[@m1py]

At the time of recording I did not have a necro leveled yet for the temper. The build shown in the planner is the ideal setup. I don't have best in slot items yet

[@thevagrantgaming]

This version of the build (With shadow clone) is basically worthless outside of hordes though because you never have enough mobs otherwise to maintain energy. And it's not really improving anything in hordes over using umbracrux and death trap in horde mode.

[@TheDuck52]

I’m stuck using a X-bow at the moment as it has GA DEX AND DOT. Cant for the life of me find a Bow with the same

[@raybandzhurdTTV]

Nice most I managed solo was 1,070 but the gear has gotten way better since then. That was like day 3

[@m1py]

I tried with mid gear to see how it goes, gonna try again after I finish perfecting the MWs :D

[@pollopollo3531]

How do people orb walk like that

[@m1py]

WASD movement

[@TheKupidonyx]

But why umber only for bosses?

[@m1py]

Because the totem eats a lot of arrows vs trash mobs and elites. VS bosses it's great because you get another target to ricochet from and thus dps the boss a lot faster. I added an explanation in the written guide under faq and mechanics aswell.

[@TheKupidonyx]

@@m1py thnx

[@drmario7559]

your ring says dark shroud and ultimate skill cooldown on planner but video is poising imbue last and dark shroud can you clear up some of the inconsistencies with the boots and the ring affixes

[@m1py]

I dont have a necro so I don't have the ultimate cooldown reduction tempers, the build I played in the video is closer to mythic farm, just with emeralds instead of rubies

[@nogz01]

Exactly, these differences makes all the difference at the end. And he made sure to NOT show the skill tree and paragon board or else we would find way more changed stuff.

[@Kronozs]

@@nogz01 You're looking way too deep into this.. with your multiple comments on it. The build works just fine just going by his written guide on Maxroll.. so why would he be "hiding" something?

[@insertnamehere4419]

What do you mean "swap"?

[@MrDave8539]

Exactly what was the other aspect he was using before swapping

[@devidshala6226]

Lmao that’s a one in a billion amulet insane

[@CookaSoupNieceEH]

I switched umbracrox to ashara khanjar, because I can't break the 200% attack speed with umbra

[@boyfromhelll]

it is 185%. not 200

[@DARKCOP2011]

@@boyfromhelll You can reach 200 tho, but dont see the point

[@insertnamehere4419]

You are living in a spreadsheet not in reality. Poison Barrage doesnt even function properly without Umbra dagger.

[@troyk2443]

​@insertnamehere4419 It functions fine without it lol.

[@insertnamehere4419]

@@troyk2443 lmao. No. It doesnt. Have you even got one? Totally different experience.

[@mr.unsign2888]

Slight improvement - Beastfall Boots (agile GA) and Deathtrap (4s cd). It's possible to have 100% dodge if you hit anything with cd every 3 sec. Any content in game is no challenge after that.

[@brettstephens6853]

Not even close to being an improvement, noxious ice is a massive chunk of your damage

[@mr.unsign2888]

@@brettstephens6853 I'll take that trade for being unkillable any time

[@m1py]

I can't remember the last time I died since I've put on Tyraels Might. Also, even with 100% dodge chance, there are still many things that can kill you such as DoTs and certain ground effects

[@mr.unsign2888]

@@m1py I make that damage up (maybe even more) by firing non-stop Death Traps. Do me a favor and try it out, you won't be disappointed.

[@bmcash09]

It almost looks as strong as the Sorc.

[@mdouet]

After playing both it definitely feels close to the Sorc's powerlevel, Sorc is still on top though.

[@bigyin9497]

I honestly changed from the Sorc cause it was making my hand hurt, absolutely wrecks but I'd rather not have arthritis in my 30s😂 find this a little better tbh

[@patrickb.2441]

So what "normal" dagger do you use for waves? you donty really show

[@ickybod13]

Looks like it was Conceited

[@samisahin-ue6wn]

he literally showed it at the end of the video, just open ur eyes

[@diegoaugusto1531]

Bring the new version of the hearttseeker!