Here's The Difference Between Bilstein 5100 And Bilstein 4600!!

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@MegaHowtoMan
@MegaHowtoMan 11 ай бұрын
4600 are amazing on my 03 Tahoe. Ride on highway is like a modern vehicle. LOVE the reliability of these Tahoes and Suburbans.
@1RoadGarage
@1RoadGarage 11 ай бұрын
GMT800 👍👍👍
@glennsouthard9208
@glennsouthard9208 9 ай бұрын
The pinnacle of GM excellence
@GOD719
@GOD719 6 ай бұрын
Yup. I put them on my old k2500 and noticed the difference. I liked them so much i plan on putting bilsteins on my ram. But i want 5100s because i have 35s and a 6" lift
@shawnwinters4327
@shawnwinters4327 4 ай бұрын
Crapp I just put 5100 on mine they are kind stiff at low speeds but high speed ride good
@rza380.
@rza380. 3 ай бұрын
I have a 01 denali a 07 tahoe and a 07 escalade and my 01 denali with 323,000 miles on it and it rides better than both 07 escalade and tahoe
@TonicofSonic
@TonicofSonic 8 ай бұрын
I confirmed on the phone with bilstien there is no difference from the 5100 to the 4600 except the 5100 can work on a truck lifted up to 2 inches. Otherwise they perform exactly the same and the 5100 works the same at stock ride height.
@oldgm8056
@oldgm8056 10 ай бұрын
I remember your 5100 installation video like it happened yesterday! 4600 is amazing installed on 2002 Crown Victoria lowred for 4 years and still ride like a new while another brands not stand for more 1 year!
@ED-ti5tc
@ED-ti5tc 11 ай бұрын
I think 4600 came stock on my 98. When they wore out, i put yellow Monroe on. They were ok. About 10 yr ago i found out AutoZone sold Bilstein. I bought a set for the rear and love them. If i remember correctly, going through AutoZone they have a limited life time warranty. But i love my Bilstein shocks. When i get my front end rebuilt, im putting new Bilstein all the way around.
@Roberto-gp3yx
@Roberto-gp3yx 11 ай бұрын
Bc this is not a paid sponsored review … people need to understand that when it comes to a vehicle and its maintenance… no one pays attention to the suspension until they have a catastrophic failure let alone will they pay attention to oil changes and other fluid maintenance So it’s good to see a review based on how one feels their vehicle should be running and the mileage one puts on certain components of their vehicle
@Green_Leaf
@Green_Leaf Ай бұрын
Great Video. I use the 5100 on my 4WD Frontier with a 2” leveling kit. So far I notice the truck is more reactive to the road.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 11 ай бұрын
I believe there are some minor valving differences between the 4600 and 5100s. I'm also on a set of mixed and matched Bilsteins 4600s up front and 5100s in the rear (mostly because retailers were out of the 5100s when I was buying the fronts). But they seem to work well together anyways so happy with it as is.
@RedBeardDevelopment
@RedBeardDevelopment 9 ай бұрын
A lot of people run 5100s in the rear for towing, you've got a good combo there.
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice 2 күн бұрын
I have a 2004 Trailblazer 256 with 196k miles. I bought it used in 2008 with 65k miles. It still has the Bilstein shocks it came with. I think it's time for new shocks. You video has been very helpful.
@DirtE30
@DirtE30 11 ай бұрын
Both fantastic shocks. Different valveving slightly. The other issue is the stock ride height of a lift capable shock. May have been bottoming the 5100’s at times.
@zachprice3279
@zachprice3279 6 ай бұрын
Yes the 5100's have slightly stiffer damping from what I've read. As far as bottoming out it would at least depend on the vehicle I believe. I just put 5100s on my truck 2 days ago. Its a stock height 2016 Ram 2500. The collapsed length of the 5100 is only like 0.13" longer so I'm certain it would still hit bump stops before bottoming the shock. Very pleased with the ride improvement on bigger bumps on the highway and speed bumps in parking lots.
@JoshDurston
@JoshDurston 4 ай бұрын
Both the 4600 and 5100 come in a variety of lengths. Big plus for the 4600 is the paint is much more rust resistant than the zinc coating on the 5100. Note that OEM Bilsteins are not the same as aftermarket even if they have the same looks and yellow paint. OEM shocks have the vendors' specific valving (probably softer), aftermarket has the Bilstein (probably stiffer) valving.
@warrenlucier5796
@warrenlucier5796 10 ай бұрын
The 5100's are more for off road, like out on a ranch etc. . The 4600's are made for paved roads and I had them on my 1996 Ford F150 with a towing package and my current Toyota Tacoma.
@steviegenoski9977
@steviegenoski9977 3 ай бұрын
yep
@stickbeard
@stickbeard Ай бұрын
Nope. Call Bilstein and talk to them. The 4600 and the 5100 are the exact same on the inside with the exception that the 5100 are make for up to 2 inches of lift. If you are stock height, save your money and just get the 4600s. The 5100s will also work, but you are paying for something you won't be using. And the 5100s look different on the outside. I think the shocks were just worn out on the vehicle.
@steviegenoski9977
@steviegenoski9977 Ай бұрын
@@stickbeard I'm maxing out the 5100s to the 7th ring position in front and adding a 1 inch spring lift in the rear. I'm shooting for 3 inches of lift. I won't be running 35s but I will be close at 34 inch tires. This is more for a lift than anything, I just don't want to use spacers. I'll change the control arms and linkage also.
@rondogwil
@rondogwil 7 ай бұрын
I had a full set of 4600s on my 97 F250 HD for about 20 years before I noticed a rear leaking. I replaced the rears with new 4600s. Then I noticed the front bouncing down the road with my slide in truck camper on the back. So I replaced the fronts with new 4600s. I figured if the first set lasted 20 years, that was reason enough to buy them again.
@SuperDuty23XL
@SuperDuty23XL 10 ай бұрын
Plan on replacing my stock shocks on my F350 with 4600s. great video.
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 11 ай бұрын
@1ROAD there’s nothing wrong of swapping g from 5100 to 4600. It’s still an upgrade monotube shock absorbers. Honestly Bilstein B6/4600 is still a must have shocks. 2: When are u gonna upgrade ur front 3157 turn signals, ur rear 3156 turn signals with sylvania zevo amber , and a Novita - LED flasher relay, and a Sylvania - zevo 3157 red led bulbs for ur 03’ Chevy suburban? Ur truck needs a full complete zevo bulb upgrades ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 We would love to see them how they perform well for ur Chevy application content 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@douglasdever6134
@douglasdever6134 10 ай бұрын
The 5100s are used more in the front with the spring perch, that has a coil spring mounted, allowing for adjustablity to give a 1-2" (or more) lift to the vehicle. Your system uses torsion bars so adjustable shocks are not needed. Honestly, should have gone with the 4600 the first time around and would have save a few bucks. Like you said, internally, basically the same single tube, gas filled, digressive valve shock. The 5100s are zinc coated steel, while the 4600s are painted. And the paint can wear off just as quick as the zinc can look dirty. Also, the 5100s are longer since they tend to be used with vehicles that have been lifted. If you crank your torsion bars to lift the front end, you might have needed the 5100s; not having lifted the front end makes the 5100 appear to be too long. But in some cases, length only matters at certain times.
@aportilla007
@aportilla007 9 ай бұрын
I recently put 4600 on a 99 Jeep TJ. I also put in an OME steering stabilizer. The Jeep rides awesome.
@corail53
@corail53 4 ай бұрын
they are the exact same shock - the 5100 is designed for slightly lifted vehicles while the 4600 is designed for oem spec. Internally they are the exact same.
@warrior4-u
@warrior4-u Ай бұрын
Thanks for repeating exactly what he said in the video. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@fairwind8222
@fairwind8222 Ай бұрын
And they both suck, maybe great on an Audi but not on a truck, in my experience
@NWSE900
@NWSE900 27 күн бұрын
@@fairwind8222what do you recommend? I just started shopping for shocks
@siredwardthethird5923
@siredwardthethird5923 22 күн бұрын
No their not. 5100s are a heavier duty shock and 4600s are an after more oem type shock but better quality. I have been using both shocks n my family cars and my business trucks… my sales fleet get 4600s and my work trucks get 5100s In business 30 years
@DylanClements98
@DylanClements98 16 күн бұрын
@@siredwardthethird5923Just because you’ve been doing it wrong for 30 years doesn’t mean anything. Email Bilstein directly, as I have done several times. The valving is the same.
@colt1815
@colt1815 7 ай бұрын
The 5100s are meant to be less stiff. My truck came stock with the 4600s. I was off-road a lot so I wanted something with a little bit more cush. So I swapped to the 5100s and it helped a lot.
@bullheimer
@bullheimer 3 ай бұрын
sounds backwards to me. as for valve rates it's supposed to be the same for both per other shock comparo
@colt1815
@colt1815 3 ай бұрын
@@bullheimer the truck was an odd configuration. It was a trd sport 4x4 crew cab long bed with a small leveling lift kit, tow package, leather seats, and oversized tires. The valves are slightly different in the 5100s and they are designed for lifts and oversized tires in mind so that's probably the difference.
@SquattingDog501
@SquattingDog501 3 ай бұрын
@@colt1815I have a 92 sierra extended cab step side z71. Do you think the 5100’s will work for my pick up?
@dougc190
@dougc190 11 ай бұрын
I put Bilstein 4600 on everything. Got them on a small blazer,which at first I put Monroe's on because I didn't have the money, and literally 6 months later I put the bilstein's on it, what A difference. Same with a 84 1 ton Chevrolet van put Monroe Magnums on it(again money problems but it cost me more in the long run), yeah they were just barely better than the blown ones, 30 ft Class c motorhome on a Ford chassis that was the biggest difference right there. So when I'm getting at is save your money and get the Bilsteins from the get-go.
@jewllake
@jewllake 11 ай бұрын
I think the blue AC Delco shocks are the best. I replaced mine on my 2006 GMC Yukon 4x4 with over 140K miles a few months back. They felt very stiff when pushing down and came back up smoothly. I sold them of facebook market place for 60.00. I used the 4600 and I opted to buy the bushings from GM as they are beefier and include a heavy nylon sleeve to help eat up that very large hole on the top frame mount. I still have the stock Nivomat self leveling shocks in the rear. I do have the 5100 on my 2018 Z71 Crew Cab Sierra.
@1RoadGarage
@1RoadGarage 11 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about putting those Nivomats back in just out of curiosity… still in good shape.
@pheonixfps9248
@pheonixfps9248 7 ай бұрын
Delusional.
@kelstr
@kelstr 9 ай бұрын
Amazing video; I just bought two 5100’s for the front of my 2020 F350. But I’m not lifted, so I’m returning them and throwing in some 4600’s. Might need to spray paint them tho haha
@TonicofSonic
@TonicofSonic 8 ай бұрын
Don't bother they are exactly the same even at stock ride height.
@ricebike
@ricebike 11 ай бұрын
I just looked it up... They carry a lifetime warranty 😊 Exchange the old ones and have them for backups
@ricebike
@ricebike 11 ай бұрын
Plus google search for 4600 vs 5100 gives one lots of results Stating that the 4600 is for more daily driving vs 5100 are for altered suspension and bigger tires over factory specs
@Lxmustang805
@Lxmustang805 10 ай бұрын
The 4600s are the best , I ran them on my 05 Silverado 2wd . The ride is nice , and smooth . I’m planning on purchasing a set for my 2023 rcsb 5.0 f150 .
@MrBowNaxe
@MrBowNaxe 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff Jimmy! I'm at that point with my Suburban. I've replaced the fronts before but not with the original Billsteins. The rear are still original if you can believe that and still have that iconic blue and yellow look to them. I remember when you put those 5100's on and thought I needed to also but, thanks to this video (like many others) I think I'll stick with the 4600's. Thanks for sharing and I can't wait to see what's next.
@omorin34
@omorin34 16 күн бұрын
I run my 2018 ram 2500 with 2" lift Thuren springs and 2007 4600 shocks. The previous version ran longer shocks, well in the front. The spring shock combo is like butter.
@AbdiasGarcia21
@AbdiasGarcia21 5 ай бұрын
The 5100's are valved with softer compression and rebound curves for offroad comfort and less wheel hop on grave, dirt, or wash board surfaces. Compared to the 4600's valved with higher compression and rebound curves for on-road and highway driving that requires more overall damping response to control the springs and bounce at high speeds. This is a great video with real life samples. I wish modern Chevy's Z71 package was built on the 4600's not the Ranchos as they are even softer than a 5100.
@charliedee9276
@charliedee9276 29 күн бұрын
5100's on my 4" lifted Grand Cherokee, great shocks!
@73SDR
@73SDR 10 ай бұрын
Fronts have the engine sitting on them, so they'll wear more. Bilstein makes a great shock. I have 4600s.
@ceescorner
@ceescorner 8 ай бұрын
I had 4600s on my Frontier, they rode perfectly fine. I now have 5100s because I'm lifted and feel fine too. I did how ever put 100lb steel bumper on front and I put stiffer springs
@RonRussell-sj1zf
@RonRussell-sj1zf 8 ай бұрын
Had a '93 Suburban 4WD and had 4600's all the way around for many 1000's of miles with no complaints.
@MrLuckytrucker21
@MrLuckytrucker21 3 ай бұрын
The 4600 shocks are great for towing! I run them on my 98 Chevy K1500!
@ryanfree9861
@ryanfree9861 7 ай бұрын
The 5100s on my 13 F150 are adjustable by moving a snap ring. I used them to level my truck and handle an A/T tire. Even they I went up 2" plus a bigger tire, bory roll was reduced.
@cowboybootshatsandwesternl9663
@cowboybootshatsandwesternl9663 4 ай бұрын
I have my 2015 jeep grand Cherokee that is lifted with the aid of the 5100 leveling shocks and they have been great. I also have a 2003 Dodge Ram 3500 Dually that is leveled with 2 inch springs in the front and I have skyjacker shocks that are doing fine in the rear but are leaking in the front after only 6 months. Unfortunately they do not have the 5100s available for my truck but was wondering if the 4600 would be ok even if the front is leveled.
@artm6723
@artm6723 3 ай бұрын
Easiest way to figure out if you need new shocks is the bounce test. Just push down on the front (or rear) of your vehicle a few times then step back. If it continues to bounce up and down more than a couple of times you probably need new shocks. Good shocks should be able to stabilize your vehicle rather quickly. Worn shocks won't.
@nastysoda9212
@nastysoda9212 10 ай бұрын
that's what my trd-offroad tacoma has stock. they do great off-road and great on road. I have another tacoma with 6112's and 5160's in the rear. And prefer driving on the 4600
@ElectricBlueIX
@ElectricBlueIX 5 ай бұрын
I removed the mag ride shocks on my 17 Yukon and went with a pretty cheap set and have not been happy with them at all. The ride is very floaty and doesn’t feel under control, especially when we are loaded down with all our gear for a trip. The other thing I can’t stand is that they don’t feel like they soak up any of the bumps. Everything transfers into the truck. One last thing, the ride height. In the front it was a strut assembly and the company said the ride height would be basically level but it’s not. The front springs never settled so it’s squatting while driving, which I hate. After watching this video I’ll be swapping out to the 4600’s in the front and going back with air ride in the rear.
@JacobZwerner
@JacobZwerner 22 күн бұрын
Do you have the torsion keys in with the 4600’s? Did you need a spacer on the front?
@rototiller78
@rototiller78 11 ай бұрын
Love my 5100s on my '07 Lincoln Mark LT in which the 4600s would fit too. Also, the Bilstein company recommends the "boot" side bolted to the wheel side.
@WalterMelons
@WalterMelons 11 ай бұрын
Wonder if it’s because gravity would help keep debris from working into the cylinder if the boot failed.
@stephenmonroe7541
@stephenmonroe7541 11 ай бұрын
Front shocks on those GMs only install one way.
@TurtlDrip
@TurtlDrip 11 ай бұрын
Yes this reduces unsprung weight.
@don_moody
@don_moody 11 ай бұрын
You can't flip the shocks to the boot side down on the front of this truck. Different mounts on each end
@rototiller78
@rototiller78 11 ай бұрын
Well, thanks @stephenmonroe7541 @don_moody for the GM clarification as I am familiar with Ford and Honda. Why would Bilstein want their shocks installed boot side down if they couldn't be? 🤔🤦‍♂️
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 Ай бұрын
Front suspension and brake components always take more of a beating when compared to the rear components due to the heavy engine as well as braking process as well as hitting holes and other issues with the pavement harder than the rear.
@JG-yd8so
@JG-yd8so 6 ай бұрын
Are your coil springs the same age on both vehicles? They do start to sag over time, transferring more work load to shocks, thus reducing efficiency/longevity. 5100s have a lifetime expectancy of 50K miles
@chadmiller8019
@chadmiller8019 11 ай бұрын
I have 4600 on the f250 I had them on my pro4x Xterra for years. Our 02 Tahoe came with some 5100s on it and they are great too
@DirtE30
@DirtE30 11 ай бұрын
The bottom bolt is the one you need to leave loose until loaded, the top isn’t nearly as critical in that way.
@1RoadGarage
@1RoadGarage 11 ай бұрын
🤔
@abelscaliber7969
@abelscaliber7969 10 ай бұрын
@@1RoadGarageyea you preloaded the bushing
@youorlast4296
@youorlast4296 8 ай бұрын
can you explain the process. are you saying tighten the new shocks bottom bolts after you drop the cars weights on it? . im going to replacing mine soon
@DirtE30
@DirtE30 7 ай бұрын
@@youorlast4296 yes.
@oozarud9370
@oozarud9370 7 ай бұрын
This is a great video. I just wanted to ask if your Suburban is stock height? I recently purchased the 5100 on sale for my stock 01 Tahoe not realizing it was for 0-2" lifts. Would this be an issue?
@Jackthedog928
@Jackthedog928 6 ай бұрын
No
@alejandrotudonmanriquez7702
@alejandrotudonmanriquez7702 5 ай бұрын
After you put on the torsion keys on the suburban 03 did you put extended shocks or stock height shocks?
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 Ай бұрын
One more bit of info, when an OEM has a name brand component on their vehicle, like a Rancho, Bilstein or even Fox shocks or say an upgraded brake system, those components are not the same that you will buy from an aftermarket dealer with the same name on the side of the box, even if it has the same number/nomenclature on the product or box. Typically the aftermarket is even better than the one from the assembly line.
@DanBrando
@DanBrando 29 күн бұрын
Are you sure with these?? What about Toyota tacomas wit these? Do you know for sure?
@sirhcmi3
@sirhcmi3 6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the 4600's have a different loading profile. It's been a while but I went through the same journey years ago. The 4600's have a soft start and damp progressively firmer as they compress (progressive?). The 5600's have a firm start then soften a bit (digressive?)... Regardless of why. I like the 4600's more also. (02 Avalanche 1500)
@eugeneshackelford9112
@eugeneshackelford9112 11 ай бұрын
The two is designed for two very different ride and control. You can't make a judgment on pushing in on them because of course they are going to react differently.
@TurtlDrip
@TurtlDrip 11 ай бұрын
Yes 5100s are digressive and 4600s are progressively damped. Basically offroad vs street
@onefastcyclist
@onefastcyclist 13 күн бұрын
4600's came stock on my Nissan Frontier PRO4-X - it under-steered badly. I replaced them with Old Man Emu - better ride and MUCH less under-steer
@55azguy
@55azguy 13 күн бұрын
If ever a question what belongs in your vehicle bilstein has a 1-800 number have vin code and call them. Once I had a Chevy in my shop and it just felt weird. I called bilstein and sure enough someone put the wrong bilstein shocks in it. They told me the correct number then the vehicle felt perfect.
@themachine8009
@themachine8009 11 ай бұрын
I’ve always heard about Bilsteins but someone told me that they were really expensive. But they r not bad. I wonder if they have a pair that will fit my 2013 VW Passat. Thanks for sharing
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 11 ай бұрын
U get what u paid for. Remember. Quality isn’t cheap, and cheap isn’t quality.
@r0ckworthy
@r0ckworthy 9 ай бұрын
Do automotive shocks generally have a stack of shims inside? Like a dirt bike shock does. For instance are automotive shocks like the Bilstein 4600 a "cartridge type" shock or are they all the old-school type with just a damping rod with oil holes in it? Because on a dirt bike the old damping rod shocks are absolutely terrible and once you feel the difference of the cartridge design, the difference is obvious.
@PRO4XKEV
@PRO4XKEV 11 ай бұрын
Estimate the mileage put on the 5100 shocks? I am curious.
@mikemcf9189
@mikemcf9189 11 ай бұрын
Mileage is critical information - 5 years of use has nothing to do with it. Shocks generally have a 20,000 mile life.
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 11 ай бұрын
@@mikemcf918920,000-50,000 miles in general. And especially for twin tube shocks.
@ClaytonSensiba
@ClaytonSensiba 11 ай бұрын
I love my 5100s in my 04
@BradBlaylockwork
@BradBlaylockwork 11 ай бұрын
If its still slushy check your jounce bumpers. When I replaced mine it made a big difference because one was gone.
@ElCalla0
@ElCalla0 11 ай бұрын
Hey man I’ve been looking for some of these shocks and since you won’t use them can I buy them off you?
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 11 ай бұрын
Why not look up at shock surplus? They got u covered
@gm-classics
@gm-classics 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, i was about to buy 5100s for 06 2500hd… im going with 4600s. I have them in an 04 2500hd already and they are great… i was thinking the 5100 is an upgrade but that is not the case with more research…. 4600 more road firm over 5100.
@samsaraAI2025
@samsaraAI2025 9 ай бұрын
Can you recomend me some good shocks for 1995 suburban V6.5L Diesel? thanks
@captainsenileinfo
@captainsenileinfo 7 ай бұрын
i have tryed a few rear shocks on my 2006 chevy cobalt and all i get is a stiff bang bang bang feels like having know shocks trying out some bilstein shocks for the rears just ordered them hope they do the trick.
@Pablo-cp9nc
@Pablo-cp9nc Ай бұрын
The lower bolt is supposed to be tightened at ride height, if not you will twist the bushing and expect early failure.
@kylelaw7210
@kylelaw7210 7 ай бұрын
If I have a leveling kit do I need to go with the 5100s?
@DonaldCpringle
@DonaldCpringle 2 ай бұрын
its because the 4600s are a higher pressure shock, so less shockfade but also a stiffer ride quality, the 4600s also have less hydrolic fluid so if your going off-road and flexing the suspension a whole lot, the 4600s could overheat and wear out faster on the trails
@roughneck2204
@roughneck2204 11 ай бұрын
From everything I researched. The 5100s are for lifted vehicles
@georgebarrera9881
@georgebarrera9881 11 ай бұрын
Yes that is the difference between 4600’s and 5100’s
@Tommy-rr7ez
@Tommy-rr7ez Ай бұрын
​@@georgebarrera9881Several folks have said the 5100s are for vehicles lifted up to 2 inches. So are they saying they won't work if you have a 4 inch lift? I'm wanting to lift my GMC K3500 long bed single wheel to 4 inch and I was hoping to put Bilstons on it. And would you know if they can handle weight for a camper or should I go a different route? Thanks for any help!
@fish4fun354
@fish4fun354 11 ай бұрын
I've used both but prefer 5100 cause I didn't notice a difference and I don't like that the 4600 get all the weight from suspension pulling down on them when the front end is raised.
@ValOzuna
@ValOzuna 2 ай бұрын
Wait, the 5100 you said has been on vehicle for 2 years? And the 4600 is brand new? If that's correct if course the 4600 will be more harder to push in, am I right?
@victorbaird8220
@victorbaird8220 11 ай бұрын
Jimmy has a nice hat 😊
@robinhockett1191
@robinhockett1191 11 ай бұрын
Hey Teacher can you put them on my HHR. Are they better then the struts
@fixingwhatihave2906
@fixingwhatihave2906 3 ай бұрын
What kind of rims do you have on the truck?
@BigRedtheGinger
@BigRedtheGinger 4 ай бұрын
I have a set of Rancho 5000 shocks on my 79 Dodge W150. They seem decent so far, but with the factory leaf springs, it's got a stiff ride. When I get my lift kit, I kinda want to try Bilstein. Also considering a Bilstein coil over kit for my 2020 Civic too.
@bullheimer
@bullheimer 3 ай бұрын
i have front leafs too and i dont think my new 5100's did diddly over the ranchos i had or the rough countrys i had. pretty sure the leafs just cant be helped unless i take one out. Rough Fn ride!
@BigRedtheGinger
@BigRedtheGinger 3 ай бұрын
@@bullheimer fair enough. That's good to know though.
@josenoyola9851
@josenoyola9851 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the new keys from the 95 makes it stiffer than the original keys in the 03, so the keys have the tbars in the original position. So they sag too. Just my 2 cents
@cameronwingate7477
@cameronwingate7477 11 ай бұрын
How about the KYB mono max or one of the koni shocks that are meant for a pick up trucks or SUVs?
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 10 ай бұрын
The bilstein will still be better with 4600 compare to others. Because of that 46mm digressive internal piston.
@dzeyo651
@dzeyo651 Ай бұрын
my guess is, if the 5100s are for lifted trucks, they are indeed valved and or 'oiled' differently for longer travel, probably offroad oriented ..
@coffeedollsvp
@coffeedollsvp 5 ай бұрын
Have u ever considered using Coilovers?
@ethanscoma9313
@ethanscoma9313 4 ай бұрын
awsome vid, wondering how many miles you put on in the 5 year span
@remruff9082
@remruff9082 8 ай бұрын
will 4600 fit my 02 tundra with a 2in leveling kit?
@AimingWanderously
@AimingWanderously 7 ай бұрын
I'm anxious to see how these 4600s hold up in the same amount of time. Surprised the 5100s seemed to weaken so fast.
@Victor-nc5gi
@Victor-nc5gi 2 ай бұрын
5100 are super stiff on 2006 Silverado 1500 z71 4wd & on my 2005 2500hd 2wd duramax . 4600s are the way to go .
@dontworry1302
@dontworry1302 11 ай бұрын
Just finished putting Billstein 4600 front shocks in my 03 suburban about 3 hours ago. Would have loved to had this video as a guide.
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it was less of a guide and more of an opinion piece.,
@dontworry1302
@dontworry1302 11 ай бұрын
@@xephael3485 Honestly the part that took longest for me was deciding if the extra cost of the Bilsteins was worth while, so would have been a guide for that I suppose. The actual process of putting the shocks in was so easy I spent longer greasing my caliper slide pins while I was there than doing what I was there for.
@1RoadGarage
@1RoadGarage 11 ай бұрын
Those slide pins… 👍 just did that too.
@dontworry1302
@dontworry1302 11 ай бұрын
@@1RoadGarage Stripped one out on 5/6 sides of both the bolt and my tool. That cracking noise was the best sound I've hear in my entire life.
@jbtOO7
@jbtOO7 11 ай бұрын
Just throwing it out there I'm not a huge fan of Bilstein shocks if you like them that's great whatever you like really that's what matters.
@jonsmail8082
@jonsmail8082 11 ай бұрын
Different lengths of shocks cause the shock to work in different areas of the stroke
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 11 ай бұрын
And it depends of how u use them
@joeaguilar196
@joeaguilar196 11 ай бұрын
Hi . brother like the awesome videos good job . Wanted to know if this would work on my GMC Yukon 98. I have the 3 inch lift kit rough country .
@mikemcf9189
@mikemcf9189 11 ай бұрын
You keep talking about FADE. I do not think you know what this means. "Fade" is from heat during heavy use and is why high-end off-road trucks have shocks with external reservoirs and baja truck shocks have radiators. Sure, they'll wear out over time but that has nothing to do with the "Fade" that you read about on the 4600 brochure.
@cgriebel1
@cgriebel1 10 ай бұрын
Correct. Fade also corresponds with stroke/frequency. Short stroke shock shafts, as in the case of a auto/truck shock, don't really heat up the shock like a full-on off road vehicle (think trophy truck or motocross), where the stroke can be as much as a few inches both ways for mx or wayyy more for a trophy truck. Hence the piggy-back reservoirs to store more fluid and aid in cooling. The fluid in those shocks takes a beating, and is changed out regularly.
@GutterCleanerResourceUSA
@GutterCleanerResourceUSA 3 ай бұрын
Great video . I think the 4600 is for trucks that are not lifted.
@jameshall4385
@jameshall4385 11 ай бұрын
The longer shocks are designed for a taller vehicle. They are probably compressed to much and not able to work as they are designed to for a suspension with more travel
@Texas_G_Longhorns
@Texas_G_Longhorns 8 ай бұрын
5100s on my 2019 GMC Sierra AT4 have been a perfect replacement for the stock Ranchos
@samsaraAI2025
@samsaraAI2025 9 ай бұрын
Pleas anyone can recomend me the Blisten part number for a GMC 1995 Suburban L65 V8 6.5 Diesel. 4x4. Thanks! I have a lot of confusion
@ARodriguez-0
@ARodriguez-0 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. I like my 5100s on my 01 Burb
@1RoadGarage
@1RoadGarage 11 ай бұрын
I really liked the 5100.
@JoeC-tt9oq
@JoeC-tt9oq 8 ай бұрын
Can confirm that the internals are the same.
@RALLYFANCLUBn1
@RALLYFANCLUBn1 9 ай бұрын
4:25 просто ты поставил новый амортизатор.а не модель) это 1-трубные аморты) нам всегда говорили , что американцы любят мягко)
@clayb5125
@clayb5125 8 ай бұрын
Aren't the 4600s for stock lift height and 5100s require 2-4 inch lift rear and 4-6 inch front. That's how they are for my 1997 suburban.
@terryvaughn677
@terryvaughn677 7 ай бұрын
Clear coating when they are new will keep the nice
@KG5DGO
@KG5DGO 8 ай бұрын
I thought the Bilstein shocks were lifetime warranty?
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 Ай бұрын
5100s are Zinc coated as opposed to paint on the 4600s. Zinc tends to last longer where salt/sand/mud is prevalent. Yes, the 5100s are typically used on trucks or Jeeps with an aftermarket lift. They are also valved just a slight but stiffer to handle the lift and weight of the taller tires/wheels/lift kit etc. The 4600s are what OEMs use when they choose a stock ride height, but want to add Bilsteins to a package, and are the same as a stock shock when it comes to ride and comfort.
@williamhanna5224
@williamhanna5224 11 ай бұрын
Excellent !
@alanmerritt860
@alanmerritt860 11 ай бұрын
For the price of them they should last a lot longer than 2 years. Also try sos pads on the other shocks to shine them up
@toyotabrony
@toyotabrony 11 ай бұрын
Maybe he was on stock height with 5100, and overtime that can compress a bit too soon.
@1RoadGarage
@1RoadGarage 11 ай бұрын
It’s been 5yrs. I’m happy with that length of time. 🤙
@stephenmras8519
@stephenmras8519 Ай бұрын
5100s are for a 2” lift. They are longer and will bottom out on a truck that is not lifted. Been there and done that. Have a set of 5100s with 3K miles on them for sale.
@brandonbanuelos953
@brandonbanuelos953 7 ай бұрын
Damn i just bought the 5100 for my suburban thinking they were better but now im regretting my choice
@NiteHawk861
@NiteHawk861 10 ай бұрын
Nice Tahoe!
@autoshaman4319
@autoshaman4319 3 ай бұрын
Here's what I. Will say bill steins are awesome.I love them but As far as the back goes throw a set of nivomats on there and you will never look back. They are self-adjusting and they hold the back of a suburban planted like no other shock, not even a bilstein, will compare.
@bullheimer
@bullheimer 3 ай бұрын
those are supposed to be matched to nivomat springs. did you do this. and, they are coil springs. anybody have any idea if these shocks would work with a leaf spring rear vehicle?
@autoshaman4319
@autoshaman4319 3 ай бұрын
@@bullheimer I used precision HD 1/2 ton springs and nivomat shocks.
@autoshaman4319
@autoshaman4319 3 ай бұрын
Also Arnott makes a front replacment shock that is stouter than the bilstiens
@trooperpol
@trooperpol 10 ай бұрын
Maybe if you don’t cranked up the torsion bar the 5100 works shorter than they must. If you lift the suspension the story will be different
@blakeharden4528
@blakeharden4528 9 ай бұрын
anyone know where i can buy 5100’s?
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