1Zpresso K Ultra vs Kingrinder K6.

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@ojmachine9545 4 ай бұрын

im only 1 year in my coffee journey as someone who used to hate coffee, finding out using whole beans is way better than preground was a game changer. last week i went from a cheap electric grinder to the kingrinder k6 and holy crap a coffee i hated became one of my favorites overnight. i cannot recommend that grinder enough. i can now actually taste what the bags tell me to expect.

@mycoffeeshow111 4 ай бұрын

@@ojmachine9545 thank you for sharing your story. It only gets better the deeper you get into this hobby. Welcome to the club!

@ColdCoffeePhotography 10 ай бұрын

I have a K6 just for pour over, so my settings very rarely change by more than a couple of clicks either way - as you say Jack its an absolute steal for the price. Buy it & use the hundred quid saved to buy some nice coffee ;)

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Thx for sharing your experience. Nice grinder to have indeed.

@rakimakiyoyo 10 ай бұрын

What range of clicks are you using for pour over ? I have a V60

@ColdCoffeePhotography 10 ай бұрын

@@rakimakiyoyo I use a Kalita wave so might be slightly different, but I find a rough starter is one full rotation from 0 burrs touching & then to the 20 mark gets me in the ball park for a 3:30 brew time

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

@@rakimakiyoyo good starting point for myself s 2 full rotation. See how coffee behaves and adjust from there. Obviously it depends on coffee, recipe and so on.

@CarlosGomez-bc2wf 7 ай бұрын

¿clicks number para v60 o chemex ?

@barskuleli8612 10 ай бұрын

I have K6 for a time for my Picopresso. As you said it iis very good choice especially considering the price. It is very well made, very solid and very large 48mm conical burr. No need to give double price only for brand reputation.

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Agree with you on that. And you reminded me I should record something about my picopresso.

@barskuleli8612 10 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 That would be very good. Waiting👍🏻

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

@@barskuleli8612 I have one where I was comparing it with La Pavoni but was not happy with the quality of the video and never released it. It is difficult to record the actual espresso flow from below. Last time my camera ended up covered with coffee 😛

@barskuleli8612 10 ай бұрын

@mycoffeeshow111 Ahah :)) Maybe you can put Picopresso to the edge of some table and put lower camera tripod to take video. Or maybe you can use a good cellphone camera only for espresso flow scene...

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

@@barskuleli8612 thx for the tips.

@kitcraft9516 10 ай бұрын

I have had my K6 for just shy of a year (by 11 days) and I used it daily (4-6 shots a day) for six months. My zero-point shifted, a lot, like 19 clicks over that time. The rubber is getting loose and the O-ring that connects the lid to the handle has given out (no big deal). Now, the zero has not shifted any since then and that happened over the first few months before settling in. Functionally, it still works as it always has. I think if I were to buy another hand grinder and was going to use it heavily, I'd spend more to get better finishing so long as they were more likely to hold up over time. However, since going electric I don't use the hand grinder for anything other than travel and decaf, lol. As an aside, for pour over (which I rarely drink myself) I still reach for my C2. Idk why, I just like the way it feels better in use, lol. And I don't ever change the settings so that isn't really a concern. Anyway, I still think the K6 is a good value. I can still pull a better tasting shot if I use the K6 than I can with the ESP but the ESP is just so much more convenient. Thank you for comparing, as always and hope you are doing well!

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and sharing your experience. I will probably sell my K6 soon but it was a very pleasant surprise especially in this price range.

@kitcraft9516 11 күн бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 As an update I do have a J-Ultra now and can say, that for me, it is in fact worth twice as much as the K6. It can be calibrated, the clicks are much smoother, the shaft rotates smother, the bearing is silent, and all internal parts look and feel better machined (the bearings in my K6 were really rough out of the box and slightly rusty). I feel that it is more well thought out too. It is easier to crank and faster too (not much faster but way, way easier). And much easier to take apart for cleaning. Flavor comparison wouldn't be apples to apples as I think the J-Ultra produces way, way more fines, or it seems to. More body, less clarity thicker shots. This is my preference. But I think if someone wanted more clarity, they'd go with the K not the J anyway.

@mycoffeeshow111 11 күн бұрын

@ Thsnk you very much for very comprehensive review. I really liked my J in terms of taste , speed and precision but it required lots of strength to grind.

@kitcraft9516 11 күн бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 Interesting. I find J-Ultra way, way easier to turn than the K6. Not as easy as the C2 but much faster with finer adjustments of course. Though the C2 is the easiest to turn that I have ever used. That said, I drink coffee on the darker end of medium at between 50-60 agtron much of the time. If I was drinking something super lightly roasted, I don't think I'd opt to hand grind at all!

@mycoffeeshow111 11 күн бұрын

@ personally I only use hand grinders for when I travel. Right now, after a week away, my arms ache a bit from constant grinding for myself and family

@Bauderjoh 10 ай бұрын

great video btw! infectious energy

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Thx for watching. It is all because of caffeine 😁

@Mastrenich 7 ай бұрын

My K6 has a real problem about bearings getting rusty. It can take only a few months to notice it clearly, sooner if you usually do RDT. I'm sending it back to Amazon after getting no support from Kingrinder..

@mycoffeeshow111 7 ай бұрын

Thx again for the info. I will keep an eye on this.

@ugursenturk5860 3 ай бұрын

What happened any rust

@OneAnonymous-l6t 3 ай бұрын

No one has any photo or details about the rust on the internet. I would like to know more.

@wierdestcoffeeguygt 10 ай бұрын

Glad to see you used coffee from my country.... btw i Was really shoked to see their burrs are like 95% identical... I have the K6 and for me it shines more on Espresso than pour over those 16 micron steps are a big help to dial espresso, but for PO sometimes is frustrating twisting and find the right setting, but one you get it is great... bbbbuuuuut then you move the setting accidentally 💀... anyway is a great grinder, it punches above its league.... Next on my list is Timemore S3

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Thx for watching and sharing your experience. I will be comparing Timemore C3 with 1Zpresso Q Air soon.

@ILT12345 9 ай бұрын

Gotta be careful when watching your channel Jack, now I want a K6 eventhough I already have a JMax and Jx Pro 😂😂😂

@mycoffeeshow111 9 ай бұрын

K6 is really good for the money but it looks like you already have some nice ones.

@bayphoto 10 ай бұрын

The K6 & J Series share the same burr set (all arounder burr) Likewise, the K4 & K Series grinders share a burr set (more suited for espresso). Backstory is Kin Grinder created by prior 1zpresso individuals. Grinders are more than just a burr set, so can yield unique results. Fit & finish may make for a more pleasant experience, thus a more pleasing cup 😊

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Thx for all the info. I always considered J series as espresso grinders and would expect them to be similar to K4 rather than K 6.

@Yirgamalabar 10 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 K4 & J-series are espresso centric. K6 & K-series are all-arounders that produce less fines.

@xenodrake4008 3 ай бұрын

J series are espresso grinders! You are wrong here. K ultra and k6 share the same burr actually. Also with q2 heptagonal, q2s, k max, x pro

@Kang_Guru. 6 ай бұрын

So, KINGrinder K6 produce better coffee for espresso and pour over, better than Timemore C3S ESP Pro?

@mycoffeeshow111 6 ай бұрын

There are soo many Timemore grinders it is hard to keep up with them. K6 produces tastier coffee than my C3 but I don’t have Pro version so can’t be sure.

@full_metal2452 10 ай бұрын

K6 works like a dream for my v60 Niche Zero for espresso

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Seems like a nice combo. Have you tried it for espresso?

@full_metal2452 10 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 I might have to this weekend I’ll post back

@Howie-bz5pe 10 ай бұрын

Great video.

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Thx for watching!

@vitorg.delduque367 6 ай бұрын

This is the comparison I was looking for. I have a K6 but I have a hard time to dial into it and find the sweet spot for the v60. I think there's a lot of fines maybe? And last week it started to smell like burned rubber. I tried cleaning it but the smell still there. The fact that we can't disassemble the outer burr makes me think that some old coffee is stuck there and causing the smell. Any tips for that?

@mycoffeeshow111 6 ай бұрын

Thx for watching I was happy with its performance for pour overs but I use flat bottom brewers. Are you positive the smell is from the inside of the grinder not the rubber outside? I haven’t used it much outside my videos but haven’t noticed any issues yet.

@vitorg.delduque367 6 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 Yeah, from the grinder. I took the rubber off a while ago. I can feel it in the cup and from the burrs

@mycoffeeshow111 6 ай бұрын

@@vitorg.delduque367 very strange. I will keep my eye on it next time I grind with it. Someone mentioned rusty bearings- could this be an explanation?

@vitorg.delduque367 6 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 I have a friend who own a rusty k6. He used RDT. Mine looks fine (the bearings) and I don't RDT with the k6. I think it can be old coffee stuck somewere. Great grinder, but being able to fully disassemble it it's a point for the 1zpresso over the k6

@RaymondLo84 Ай бұрын

I got both and there are basically no difference for pour over coffee. Anyone who claimed can tell the differences are joking. From a basic scientific perspective the grind size is going to be within margin of error from adjustments. And people kept saying clarity, sweetness, sour criticness, etc etc like tasting wine... To be real not far before people will say rubber, wood bark, and dog poop taste.

@mycoffeeshow111 Ай бұрын

@@RaymondLo84 you might be right. Or not. We would need proper scientific tests to prove that. Not sure if you believe in burrs seasoning, but if you do, we would have to compare those grinders at the same stage of that process, with the same rpm and exactly the same recipe, repeated for at least 100 times.

@ayman8603 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. Can you please compare the k6 with the c3 also c3 vs the new s3 😅

@mycoffeeshow111 9 ай бұрын

Thx for watching. C3 would be great if you are looking for great value for money but overall K6 would be my choice.

@Bauderjoh 10 ай бұрын

5.5 to 6 for filter with k ultra... maybe i need to try to adjust. im at 7.2-7.8 and it works well for me.... Maybe some people can comment their settings for filter (eg V60) below?

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Interesting. Do you use it for espresso as well. I noticed they recommend 3 for espresso but I oscyllate around 2. For pour over for this particular video I ended up on 6.2 as was aiming for 2and a half minutes total time. For v60 I would probably go coarser

@Bauderjoh 9 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 After the video I tried to grind finer for filter and im really happy with the results! I learned that there is a much bigger range for filter than I thought there is before. I also just got a Profitec Go as my first espresso machine last weekend, this is why I waited with my answer. For 18g in 45g out in 25-30 seconds with the default Profitec basket and light roasted coffees im around 2.7-3.1. Im sure my shots still far away from perfect so that wont mean that much. Can you tell me, if you notice bigger changes in extraction time (with mutiple shots at the same settings) by using a hand grinder as with an electric one?

@mycoffeeshow111 9 ай бұрын

@@Bauderjoh thx for sharing your experience and congratulations on your new machine. There is a reason why I don’t fancy recording hand grinders videos. Shots time vary on the same settings alot and is difficult to dial both to the same time. Keeping steady speed can help.

@Gutszomb11 9 ай бұрын

I use a plastic v60 02 with Cafec Abaca filters (I really like those filters for everything). K ultra settings for me: Feel free to increase or decrease ratios by 1 and pours to match your taste Dark: "1/14 Ratio" 6.5 - 7/ 185F-195F/ 5 equal pours. Medium: "1/15 Ratio" 6 - 6.5/ 195F-205F/ 5-6 equal pours. Light: "1/16 Ratio" 5.5 - 6.2/ 205F - 212F/ almost always 6 equal pours. Make sure to calibrate the zero point every few days. My K ultra grounds were good from the start, but it is getting insanely even grounds with almost no fines after using it for a few months. These are good grind and temp starting points, but do what you think tastes best, some light roasts tasted best with a 4 minute extraction to me. I don't know if it's wrong or right, but it tastes the best. So it's right for me.

@willshire_23 8 ай бұрын

I'm at 9-9.5 for 20-30 grams

@ihavenospacebar231 10 ай бұрын

Shots were running faster / needed to be ground finer with old beans not because of less fines but because older grounds will swell less when the water hits them. Nifty eh?

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Agree, but still, more fines would slow it down a bit I think. Or at least the shots would look better 😛

@ihavenospacebar231 10 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 yes this is true, but fines amount doesn't change with age

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

@@ihavenospacebar231 I was referring to both of those grinders producing less fines in general, which doesn’t help with good looking extraction especially with not the freshest coffee.

@ihavenospacebar231 10 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 ugly extractions are often the tastiest I find

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

@@ihavenospacebar231 very true indeed. That is why filter basket producers experiment with uneven extraction.

@ked4864 7 ай бұрын

kultra not available in the US

@mycoffeeshow111 7 ай бұрын

Really? Since when? Maybe it just a temporary shortage?

@jorgecisternas9015 6 ай бұрын

You could make more videos about the k ultra

@mycoffeeshow111 6 ай бұрын

I have done a lot of them already but what would you like to see?

@SunriseLAW 10 ай бұрын

1zpresso looked great but I got confused as to whether it has a magnetic catch-cup. So I kept looking and ended up with the K6 for $99 on Amazon. It has a screw-on cup, way more secure. The possibility that 1zpresso had a magnetic cup motivated me to look around some more until I settled on the K6.

@mycoffeeshow111 10 ай бұрын

Interesting point of view. I think I like magnetic cup but wouldn’t mind if the magnets were a tad bit stronger. How do you like the coffee from K6?

@SunriseLAW 10 ай бұрын

@@mycoffeeshow111 It took my Gaggia CP to the next level. I was going to wait for the DF-54 ($229) but decided I did not need another big-ish appliance. I figured the magnets would not be strong enough and would likely degrade a little bit over time.

@rufascar9512 Ай бұрын

Was considering getting the K6, but after watching endless videos and reading forums no one can figure out how to calibrate the K6. Many complaints are the same where it no longer centers to 0 after reassembly for cleaning. That right there was the deciding factor. Won’t be buying the K6.

@mycoffeeshow111 Ай бұрын

@@rufascar9512 I do agree that it is annoying but you can get used to it. Still, I would recommend K Ultra if you can get it.