2-Stroke vs 4-Stroke | What's the Best Dirt Bike for Enduro?

[@vintagetrikesandquads4012]

I own both, and both have their strengths and weaknesses. When it comes to the shear fun, I give it to the 2 strokes. I love the sound and smell of 2 strokes, and the violent power when you're on the pipe.

[@thenotoriousko6872]

I found the 2 stroke boring and too easy to ride but i like older 2 stroke’s but 4 strokes and modern ones especially are deff better and more fun

[@Den.D425]

@@thenotoriousko6872I honestly agree with you. 4 strokes are way more fun for me as well and I ride enduro

[@GeniusEnis]

I wanna own one of each. And a no-stroke one aswell, a electric. Love em all

[@DmitriyAdv]

2 stroke for repairability after smashability 4 stroke for tractor ability with newb ability Great video!

[@MichaelSabo]

Well, I'm certainly not riding at the caliber of these guys but pretty much across the board, in my opinion, 2-Stroke = Fun and 4-Stroke = Easier to ride/more predictable power delivery. Great video!

[@ANTICARBONTAX]

I honestly say the opposite. And if you listen to these guys they're saying 4S is better for faster momentum. Faster momentum means better rider. Amatures prefer slower, more control, lower weight, easier to control and far less flame outs you get from a 2S. Iv had both and 2S is easier for enduro 😊

[@steliosapergis]

I agree. I have beta 300 2024 racing .on Sunday I tested a beta 430 rr in a friendly race of 70 kilometers. not the racing model.and I was surprised at how easy it was to drive going on its own on highways on long straights. power and a lot of torque. I found it very fun from the point of view that it has a lot of power and goes everywhere on its own, but here I realized that it does not help you to become a good driver because it does not require any skills, while the other motorcycle wants you to try with your body, to turn and power on the pedals to emphasize the torque and that, in the end, is the enduro for me. so while I have the possibility to go to 480cc foursroke 2024 rr without a difference in money, I will not do it. My friend and seller of betas tells me is about you . I want you are happy but i stay with my 300 rr racing edition 😅.sorry 4stoke maybe another time😢

[@jayleecanada5604]

best and unbiased review video about 2 strok vs 4 stroke

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

I'm a 73 year old rider. The 300 2 stroke is my golden rule or signature bike for technical and challenging mountain trails. Just my preference.

[@preparedbear5727]

Im 68, been riding since i was 12 if i had the $$ i would have a 300TE but being poor my wife & I will stick with our YZ's

[@Dean_Richard]

Agreed

[@___asd159gh43]

What does your age have to do with it?

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

@@___asd159gh43 plenty.

[@Paul-gu2lv]

​@@___asd159gh43Be happy that you are not old enough to know yet😁👍🏼

[@chrisvozza6530]

That fun factor on a 2stroke tops anything out there I love the 2stroke

[@TwistedTriggerEnduro]

Agree 100%. Started on technical stuff on a 4 stroke and I wasn't good enough with the clutch to keep it from flaming out. Now riding a 2 so I can relax my clutch focus a little for some features. Happy I've tried both. 💪😃👍

[@modernrider1398]

I did notice that as well. I've also got a recluse on it so it wont stall out as well. It just wears me out. My 500 is like riding a couch

[@crazycarl1178]

Money made my decision for me kawasaki 250x radiator fan and an IMS tank and I can ride anywhere from track to trails and saved alot of money with the deal they gave me. In the end 2 stroke or 4 doesn't matter as long as it makes you smile all day!!

[@hunterhill1013]

Theyre all rocket ships these days!

[@Scoots1994]

I love riding back country single tracks and for that job the 2-stroke just fits my riding better. At the end of the day I've still got something left on the 2-stroke but the guys on the 4-strokes are more worn down physically.

[@kananisA75]

I prefer the 2 stroke because it's very hard to stall it and since I am a shorter guy it's really important for me to keep the engine running in the gnarly stuff because I don't have an electric start.

[@alfredk471]

Why no mention of Johnny Walker winning the endurocross series on a two stroke? Is he that much better that he can overcome the "disadvantages" and still win? Or maybe two strokes are actually better?

[@motolove293]

2 strokes all day, I’ve owned both and now I only use or buy is 2 strokes I enjoy working on them and don’t mind the extra maintenance

[@tthepikester]

On any Sunday you can't beat the smell of a 2 stroke!

[@itjobhunter]

I'm in alignment with Rich's comments about where the 2T and 4T shine - not that I'm in his riding league, but I have ridden all over the Colorado Rockies on CRF450's and 330 XCW's, and I can do both just fine. The 2T DOES feel more nimble, but after I added weight for the pipe guard (I ride enduro/hard enduro), they kinda feel the same. I love my 450 in ANY desert looking terrain, I don't even want to touch the 300! But the 450 is WAY too much power in tight places, so I'm seriously considering buying another orange bike in the 350 displacement! I believe I'm one of the riders who the 350 would be ideal for, I just can't stand to part with my other 2 bikes, they are both awesome to ride! Which ever bike I'm on, I'm smiling while I'm riding!😄

[@wee535]

350 is an awesome choice. My buddy just got one and I’m envious! Looks a lot more fun and nimble than my CRF450 on the trails

[@timshanks6729]

I have both and I love them both. I prefer 4 stroke for MX and 2 stroke for Enduro.

[@Pman4747]

... Learn to ride on a 4 stroke. Hone your skills and race on a 2 stroke. I use my 2 stroke for tight woods / hare scrambles / play riding and the 4 stroke for wide open riding/enduros. I feel faster on the 4 but have more fun on the 2!

[@dirtymotovation]

Question for you- I bought myself a kx250f (2012) , and on single track - I keep overheating and melting pistons. I also have a VERY hard time standing when I'm at a standstill causing me to drop the bike. Do you think maybe a step down to a 125 would be better for what I do?

[@dominikaltheimer9992]

Should have mentioned differences in maintenance that is required. Don’t think I’d want to take on valve adjustments plus frequent oil changes when maintenance on a two stroke seems much easier.

[@OKFrax-ys2op]

And less $$$$-2

[@modernrider1398]

I'm new to the sport but my new 300 two stroke beats my body up a lot out there on rocky terrain but its lighter then my 500 so I ride if for the single track around Vegas. I might replace both with a 350 at some point

[@RyanWithAviators]

I've owned several 4 stroke bikes. I like them. They seem very linear and tractor-ish. I regret that the only 2 stroke that I've owned and ridden is a late 90's RM125. It would do me well to ride a 250 2 stroke to see what it feels like.

[@steliosapergis]

If you ride one enduro 300 2 stroke believe me you exposed for happynes. Are do smooth so nice bikes a lot of lower power and for dome reason so friendly

[@airindiana]

I started wrong with an experience of 2 strokes. For 6 months as a newb I’ve ridden enduros on a TE150. (inc one 3 hour enduro race). People bang on about how wonderful the 150 is for beginners. It absolutely is NOT a beginners bike if you want to actually progress at enduro at a pace that isn’t highly frustrating, not if muddy steep hills are involved like we have in UK. You need to be very experienced to ride it well. It’s really good at twisty trails and mild rises. But enduros over her usually involve much more. I’ve leant it to seasoned riders and they struggle on hills on it compared to their 300s. No good if you’re trying to do laps on a 10 mile XC. It has no bottom end and a snappy power band that comes on far quicker than the bigger ones. It needs to do pretty much any hill on the pipe. Yes you have to clutch it but the margin of error in 1st on the pipe with clutching is zero so you end up a micron too much clutch the speed washes off and you fall onto the hill or a micron too much clutch or micron too much gas (and you spin up the wheel and stop or you flip it. Either way stuck zapped of energy to do more laps doing this multiple times. This happens say 5 times a lap on hills 300s and 4 strokes trundle up. Hitting with enough speed to get into 2nd when clutch modulation is a little better often isn’t possible due the limited space at the bottom and the lack of low end power. So as a newb I’m trying to learn, and trying to learn on a 150, so double trouble. I’ve rethought my process, my priority is to get better quicker and safely so I can get bike fit and do more laps without crashing on every hill climb and actually progress. The aim wasn’t to learn to ride a 150. I had a go on a 350F and was amazed. The linear throttle was one less thing to think about and the pure grunt of a 4T. I also like the sound albeit I’ll sure miss the little 2T zap. I’ll miss the zippy playfulness of my 150 over little bumps but I’ve got to focus on the target, getting better at the sport so I’m also safer and getting more overall enjoyment 🙂. I might go 300 2T enduro eventually but I do fancy trying the 4T as the low revving nature seems calmer and less frantic.

[@furyss1tv184]

I have both and raised on 2 stroke But I love both depending on task at hand and fun to be had.

[@worldwide1873]

What would you pick for a hare scramble?

[@Mr10usdad]

I grew up on two strokes. I still ride them. I think they are more fun. I like the sound and the smell of a two stroke. I also like the low cost of repair and the ease of repair. I think four strokes have really hurt the sale of bikes and thus the popularity of Supercross. Their higher cost has put them out of reach of many. If the manufacturers would make a competitive 300cc two stroke that the AMA would allow then it would be great to see and bring people back to the sport. There needs to be more variety.

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

I agree 100%.

[@steliosapergis]

I agree

[@backyard_outrider]

Yz 250x or Klx 300r for trail riding? New Jersey pine barrens a lot of sand mixed with some hard dirt single track

[@rmatvmc]

Hey, I'm not familiar with that area. Sounds like they might require something street legal. I'd check into that first. ...Those are two completely different bikes. The KLX would be great for putting around. If you are doing more serious/aggressive off-road riding, the YZ250X would be better. A closer 2/4 stroke comparison to the YZ250X would be the YZ250FX or the YZ450FX. These are all more aggressive off-road bikes. -Charles

[@dormantmenace]

If you like technical riding or tight single track. You can't beat a properly tuned 2 stroke that's ported for such riding.. not a mx ported bike lol. Lug like a tractor. Next No engine braking you just ride it like a mountain bike. Keep your momentum. No flame out. !!! And thr fun factor is just higher on a 2 stroke. If you want speed and planted. Confidence inspiring. Modern 4 stroke every were but single track all day long.

[@chrispewkreme]

At dead stop speeds and just tractor it through stuff, 2 stroke all day. I’ve yet to ride a 4 stroke that was east to ride in terms of clutch, stalling, flame out, overheating, etc.

[@dasboot9471]

Can’t ignore the massive weight advantage of a two smoker….and yes, run cooler. My YZ-125X is a whopping 196 lbs and I can run with anybody on anything, rides like a big mountain bike

[@hernilsoriano4873]

4 stroke for me…nice video

[@Charliano700]

Debate solved; 2 stroke = Rowdy AF/ 4 Stroke = steady and controlled. The only question is not with the stroke but what type of rider you are? Rowdy or methodical? It’s not the engine it’s the rider.

[@gearhigher2027]

IRC Tire Guy RICH LARSEN, nationally known on the microphone🇺🇸

[@wee535]

They need to make a 350 class in MX/SX 🔥

[@estebanod]

For real Enduro (time keeping), 4 strokes for sure For modern 'Enduro' time trials rallies, depends on the terrain tbh, for most EnduroGPs we've had in the past 4s too For hard enduro, 2 strokes easily, lighter!! For Enduropale, 4 strokes

[@risingeagle915]

Title says Enduro but the video is really about Enduro cross. Would like to see a video about enduro trails.

[@starlinreese9206]

So if you are good enough to race EnduroX get the 4 stroke, if you're not one of those 200 people get a Beta 300RR 🙂

[@_juliomadrid32]

2 stroke Lover 🔥💪🏼🇵🇷

[@andrewstevens3946]

The "Austrians" aren't actually the only ones building mid-displacement 4-stroke Enduros. Beta build 350s and 390s. Ride a 390 myself. Lovely all-round Bike (MX and occasional Enduro).

[@worldwide1873]

Are those betas good for hare scrambles? Looking for a hare scramble enduro sprint but will be dragged out to track for fun nothing serious

[@andrewstevens3946]

@@worldwide1873 For occasional fun stuff definately capable! A couple of buddies (both faster than I am) ride them 80% MX, 20% Enduro. The Dad even rides an X-Trainer (albeit Fox damper at the rear, increased oil level in the forks) while his (decently fast) Son rides a stock 200 RR. The slightly stiffer "Racing" versions will cover a heavier rider better without tweaking (and KYB is always nice!). I actually don´t use my RR Racing for much MX anymore. I was riding enough old-geezer club races due to my Kids racing it was worth getting a dedicated MX bike. The Beta acts as the family MX spare (Kids get my YZF250 if their bikes are down) and is setup as a dedicated (road registered etc) Enduro machine (hard hand-shields etc).

[@TheKernables]

Meh. Riding a 500EXC hasn’t hindered me any. I strongly believe people pick teams and don’t wanna switch. That being said I’d love to ride a 300 but I just don’t see it fully replacing my 500 but would make a great second bike!

[@chrismx339]

500 and 450 exc is suited to rally raid. 250(f) and 350 excs are suited to enduro gp. 250 exc suited to enduro gp. 300 exc suited to hard enduro. They are different tools for different jobs and people who disagree usually are not racing so that is fine I mean you could be on Vespa 125 or a Yamaha tenere if all you are doing is messing about in the woods and it is not going to hold you back too much really

[@jedslather]

for speed motor cross I like 2T more, but I'm also old.

[@mt1885]

Wish Yamaha would build a *YZ200X* or bring back an enduro bike like the old Yamaha ITs

[@852motosports]

Let's be honest reason pros ride 4 strokes is because that's where the manufacturers want them they develop the 4 stroke and thats where the money is

[@andrecontois8510]

Four strokes get hot too easily for most of my riding. If there were still something like an air cooled lighter xr at least it wouldn't boil over. It would get hot but keep running. If I rode more open faster terrain I'd try a four stroke for a dirt bike. They do make good dual sports.....lol!

[@johndunn9819]

Two-strokes are much more simple. There prices should reflect that simplicity better.

[@eddiedahlgren7491]

Thw only reason a 4 stroke has any advantages is because they are allowed to run twice the displacement, If they were not given that unfair advantage no one would ride a 4

[@gophop]

There are no restrictions in most enduro races. You can run a 250 4T or a 500 2T.

[@Paul-gu2lv]

Couldn't decide so I went for 3 stroke.

[@AbundanceRun]

Love 4t 2t debates next electric ⚡️

[@nickkasinger7600]

Is nick on an Sxf ? Or is that an xcf with an sxf tank?

[@sylasXo]

Sx

[@CallumVanVuuren]

Idk if I should get a 2smoker our get a for stroke because I ride trails and enduro

[@ApocGuy]

any will do as long as you dont go too technical . i love my 250F/CRF, but will buy back another 2 smoker (either team orange or one of betas or gasgas.

[@afmorse5856]

i own a 2021 crf250r and it runs at 150 Fahrenheit and i race mx

[@Randy_Cox]

This stuff always cracks me up. 4 stroke is better, faster, used by the pros for a reason....but the die hard 2 stroke guy still says his 2 stroke is better and most people should ride them.🤣🤣

[@chimbupickanini1372]

Erzberg the toughest enduro on earth. No one that ever wins rides a 4 stroke. 😅

[@Randy_Cox]

@CHIMBU PICKANINI and that has what to do with endurocross, you know the topic of the video. Billy Bolt and Graham Garvis have both said they can win on either, but prefer to push the lightest bike up the hills.🤣

[@ModularMuscle]

its because 99.9% of us aren't pros and don't race. The ones that do rarely go outside local races. Stalling over and over in the tight woods and rocks gets old quick. I love my 350 and 300 but they are just meant for different types of riding.

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

4 T is ok until engine rebuild time..$$$

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

​@@chimbupickanini1372 2 strokes still win most extreme enduros.

[@theblishknovk]

If i were rich id own both. If i can only have one it has to be a 2 stroke.

[@jeffb6350]

You guys contradict one another. One says the 2 stroke had more tractable power. The other days the opposite.

[@gophop]

Their explanation only makes sense, if you already know both platforms very well. They're correct. But it's kind of useless.

[@Sertao2013]

Enduro and enduro cross are completely different thing would you please add cross in your title so people searching for enduro will find enduro .

[@leeroykelly781]

I’m guessing they included both events is due to the similarity of the terrain/obstacles. Would prefer it if they added a “/endurocross” if that’s the case.

[@2strokeaddict830]

2strokes.. all day ...everyday.. mixing gas and kicking ass... haha

[@DVJam]

4 strokes are way better!

[@chimbupickanini1372]

Erzberg the toughest enduro on earth. No one will ever win on a 4 stroke. Don’t think a 4 stroke has ever finished the race. 😅

[@KoltFin]

Didn't Pol finish like 19th on a 700cc 4 stroke?

[@Mockle07]

For hard enduro it’s not even up for debate - 2 stroke all day long. But classic Enduro, XC/GNCC, Enduro GP… all dominated by 4 strokes.

[@gophop]

It's because of the length of the race. If it was 30min, you'd see 4T race and, likely, win. Those hills yearn for a 500 KTM.

[@Mockle07]

@@gophop lol that’s not even remotely true 😂 The slow, steep muddy hills and the hard, technical rock sections are basically impossible on a 4 stroke. Have you seen some of the things they get up?!

[@proximap2151]

Generally 2-strokes for the win! for off road/motocross. But.. for longevity 4 Strokes take it.