2 years with the Ford Lightning. Greatness, Gremlins and Electrifying Adventures ⚡️

[@loriw2661]

Six months ago I bought my 2023 F150 Lightening XLT and I absolutely love it! My jobs are within 10 miles of my home so I charge every two weeks, at home, while sleeping😊. It rides fantastic, the A/C is amazing and it’s so fast. Best truck I’ve ever owned by far!

[@bowefamilyEV]

I feel the same way and especially in the summer I really appreciate that AC! Thanks for watching.

[@brianriebedriveselectric]

Excellent walk around & review. Glad you’re enjoying it and such a great ambassador for EVs. Thanks!

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@brianriebedriveselectric thanks for watching! I’ve been having so much fun with it and have another EV event this weekend and then Electrify Expo at the end of the month. I think the community has been as fun as the truck!

[@vacasity]

Great video, I just turned onto your channel. I received a 22 lightning in August of 22 and was 3rd from Salinas Valley Ford. I also had the first battery issue from the dealer and they were awesome with service and gave me loaners throughout the entire process which did take around a month as well. I have a standard range XLT and love my truck, I have a round trip commute of 90 miles a day with free work charging. I also have solar on my house and haven’t paid much, but i currently have 50k miles. It’s our go to vehicle unless we tow or long roadtrip, haven’t got my Tesla adapter yet. There are some features I wish I had from a lariat and the ER battery, but love my truck and works exceptionally well for my use case.

[@bowefamilyEV]

Free work charging is a game changer. How awesome! If you’re on Facebook be sure to check out our Bay Area Lightning Club as well! Thanks for watching and sharing your story.

[@pstoneking3418]

I've had my 22 lightning platinum since December 22. Love it and will never return to an ICE vehicle. I often cgarge my truck from my 13 kw soar system. Since I only drive it a couple of times a week with no more than 60 miles round trips tgat works out pretty well. I never bought the home integration system as I saw that as a waste of money. I have a generator receptical at my main panel which I've connected my beds 240 receptical to in order to put a charge into my 23 kwh lithium home solar batteries. Charging from the grid is my primary backup with my 11 kw generac being my final backup. I love having 9.6 kw of nearly endless AC power available to me wherever I go. I've even charged a stranded nissan leaf by the roadside. Since the leaf J1772 max charging is 6.6 kw my 240 volt charger gave it a relatively fast charge so the owner could make it home. Definitely love this truck. In my opinion the best EV truck on the market for my needs.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@pstoneking3418 love this. I do the same with my 240 and a manual transfer switch

[@KobraToldYa]

Excellent video! Love the detail and honesty you put into it. I’ve considered getting one of these as I waited for my Cybertruck and I know I would have overall enjoyed it. Hopefully they fix the quirky software. That bed extender looks fantastic!

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@KobraToldYa gripes and gremlins aside I really love the truck. I was also super over driving a minivan for 8 years after the kids were born lol 😂 Thanks for watching the video and for the encouraging worlds 🙏

[@ElitWolf01]

fantastic video!.. I'm a 2023 Lightning owner, took possesion in may 2023, You did a great overview job..I've had 0 issues with it (1yr 4 months, 12,400 miles) I live in Idaho and have Road tripped to Vegas and SLC a couple times.. average 2.2 - 2.5 Kw/m on freeway but 3.2 in city.. It's extended range 131 kw max capacity & keep it around 80-90% when home... I agree with the built in Nav isn't great I use plugshare & android auto 100% of the time.. but I also have a MagSafe case & the wireless charger doesnt like mag safe cases.. so if it's naked It will wireless charge fine but it's hard to own a S24 ultra without a case, so I also USB charge .. As far as the audio cutting in & out I'm experiencing similar issue, it's android auto disconnects & I have to reconnect or reset bluetooth on radio.. it's frustrating but it's what happens during chip shortage 2022-2023 .. I loved all your upgades & will look into picking a few up myself, but I would definantly buy it again.. I do wish the bluecruise & phone as key wasn't subscription based after 3years..it's a reason to trade up in 2026 .. not only do we get heatpump, j3400 standard & the newest bms system but we reset those pesky subscription timers.. I do gripe a bit about the depreciation of being early adopter but it's been a fantastic truck

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@ElitWolf01 such and awesome truck and agree with you across the board. Love that you’re able to road trip. Do you have the adapter and been able to use the Tesla charging? How is it out there between Idaho and UT?

[@ElitWolf01]

@@bowefamilyEV I picked up the AtoZ adapter back in may and it works great!.. There is only a handfull of EA chargers in Idaho & utah, I watch Kyle Conner from @outofspec & he does quite a few race to vega's so I was able to use his knoweledge to help me charge.. I do find Tesla locations very convienant with lots of chargers & EA with 4 spots 8 connections & normaly 1 offline.. Max charge rate i've seen is 171kw on supercharger v3 for about 9mins then it dropped to 143kw/h .. I enjoy meeting EV owners at the chargers, always have fun conversations, and we share a muteral respect.. I am in total agreeance EV's arn't for everybody. and I'm no way trying to convince ppl to buy in, it's very contriversal in Idaho, some ppl love it, others absolutly hate them, it's very polarizing to hear the reasons behind it.. but like religion I'm just here to be me and not force it upon anyone.. Thanks again for the vidoe's if you ever findyour way to Idaho i'll try to do a meet

[@mikeendmd]

Great review and personal use case. Luv the bling you added 👍

[@bowefamilyEV]

Awesome thanks for watching and for the encouragement!

[@fredcarnes9507]

Thank you for your video, like your truck .

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@fredcarnes9507 I appreciate you giving it a watch! 🙏

[@chrisbarker775]

Truly appreciate this real video. I'm a 2021 Mach E owner (ordered September 2021, delivered February 2022) who had some of the same rewarding moments and "gremlins". I pick up my 2023 F-150 lightning lariat (antimatter blue) tomorrow and couldn't be more excited! I took have a fairly short commute and solar so the car truly pays for itself. I also have a 3rd gen 4Runner that I put premium in so I completely get both ends of the spectrum. I'm on the east coast so winters i have a charging cost due to my strategy. I personally choose to charge at my job and sell back my solar due to selling at a higher rate than considering the time of day and how much I have to pay to charge (I think .04¢ kwh) so extremely cost effective. I agree with not for everyone, but for us that it is, it's extremely rewarding. I appreciate your content 👊🏾.

[@bowefamilyEV]

Thanks for watching and your situation sounds perfect for the Lightning!

[@aaronbounds1336]

Thanks for the video. Really underscores how good Tesla is at making a well-integrated vehicle.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@aaronbounds1336 they are the unquestioned leader. Robison is getting better but Tesla is so polished and really sets the bar. Most of the legacy automakers are honestly going to lead heavy on Android Automotive and Apple CarPlay which will be a huge improvement but still always behind what Tesla can do.

[@thomaseynon6205]

Bought 2 SR range XLT Lightnings (his & hers). We love our trucks. Plenty of trips from California to Vegas, and seldomly drive my truck for work. The comfort of the ride is amazing, the speed is unreal, and the range anxiety is a complete non issue. I have found 65mph is the sweet spot for highway speeds. It may be slow for some. But I compare these to a cruiser bike. Take your time, and enjoy the ride. Their is nothing like it.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@thomaseynon6205 love the comparison to a cruiser, spot on ! Such a comfortable quiet drive.

[@thomaseynon6205]

@@bowefamilyEV yes indeed

[@B_r_u_c_e]

Thank you.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@B_r_u_c_e thanks for watching!

[@mikesevgarage]

Grate video Chris!

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@mikesevgarage thanks Mike trying to learn with each video!

[@hpwray]

Great Video! Thanks for going over everything ! Love your Lightning and all you have done! Great channel. Looking forward to more videos.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@hpwray thanks so much for watching and the kind words! Totally made my morning 🙂

[@JandCDoodles]

Hey Chris! Good choice in music! Beastie Boys! Our 2023 Lariat SR, Buzz, will be 1 Oct 25th, and we have 17k miles on him. I agree about the wireless charger.....very slow. My husband has been in the trades for many years, the tailgate step is a WINNER! He's 60 now and appreciates it! We have had module 3 replaced, and one of the power tailgate actuators replaced, and so far, that's it. Fingers crossed. We are a 2 EV family, and as of right now, we can't imagine going back. Thanks for the review!!!! Great video! -Carolyn RW Doodle

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@JandCDoodles been a Beastie Boys fan since high school and for sure one of my favorite songs 🙂 that’s a lot of fun miles in your first year 💪 love seeing it, thanks for watching and taking the time to drop a comment!⚡️🛻

[@teslashawn]

Fantastic review

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@teslashawn you’re awesome Shawn thanks for always being so supportive!

[@danielbuchanan5327]

Patiently waiting to see how awesome the second gen Lightning will be. Ford allegedly says it will make the Cybertruck look like a toy.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@danielbuchanan5327 absolutely excited to see what they have been working on. They have pivoted so much though recently and I don’t want to get too caught up in my own imagination that I’m disappointed like so many were with the CT

[@danielbuchanan5327]

@@bowefamilyEV I will definitely wait about a year after it comes out to see what everyone says about it and let any bugs get fixed.

[@sjvtesla]

The journey 😁

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@sjvtesla thanks for being my Sherpa along the way lol 🙏

[@alandavis1173]

Excellent video 😀

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@alandavis1173 thanks for checking it out! ⚡️🛻🙏

[@daniboi79]

Great video. Seems like no one is liking these. How long does it take to charge at home. How long does it take you to charge at a Tesla charger when on a road trip? Thanks again for the video. This really has me thinking now about possibly trading in the Tundra for a lightning.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@daniboi79 thanks for watching! It’s all about what percentage is left when you plug in but charging at home is about 7 hours and I do it once a week for the most part. You can plug in more often at a higher state of charge and it would be shorter but since I’m asleep anyway it’s no big deal. For Tesla charging it’s typically around 40min to go from 10%-80%. You can wait longer and get to 90% if you need to but above that the speeds drop off a cliff and it’s not worth it. Check out my trip to Vegas video where I did all Tesla charging and I have another video where it show how slow it gets when you charge to 100%

[@carlosandkicks]

Great video! 23 SR XLT owner and I need to know how you got 210 est range on 82% battery lol. I gotta change my driving habits. Really looking forward to future videos. I also have 2 kids and live in Sacramento area… interested to see how the trip to LA goes. We go to Disneyland a lot but have taken my wife’s Explorer and want to try my Lightning. Keep the content coming!

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@carlosandkicks thanks for watching! That 210 is from Bay Area commute traffic haha. I’ll get 210 if I charge to 100% and stay at 70 and below on the freeway though.

[@craigarnold1212]

Nicely done! How about something on how your backup setup works?

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@craigarnold1212 that’s for sure something I want to do!

[@KaiPonte]

Nice truck!

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@KaiPonte it’s my mobile midlife crisis and I do love it lol 😆⚡️🛻

[@KaiPonte]

@@bowefamilyEV lol

[@AdamFrugoli]

The EV communityis great!

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@AdamFrugoli I think we will look back at these early years as something special and I’m trying to enjoy and appreciate the moment!

[@richardgodshaw]

Let me start by saying, what an excellent long-term review, I really appreciate it. I'd be curious to hear your perspective on buying a 2022 Lariat extended Range model with about 20,000 miles or less on it, do you think it's worth it? I'm pretty positive from a commuting perspective, I don't have any concerns . However, from a taking long trips, of 4 hours or or more and even an annual trip from the Northeast to the Southeast driving from the Northeast to the Southeast give me some pause. I'm curious your opinion and if you have concerns about the depreciation on the electric car industry. I have test-driven two F-150 lightning, and I think they are absolutely spectacular driving vehicles. Love to hear your perspective and again what an excellent review.

[@bowefamilyEV]

I'll start with the easy stuff. I love the truck and with access to the Tesla Supercharging Network I don't have any concerns with road tripping it. I did a trip to Vegas from the Bay Area (be sure to check out that video!) about 1k miles round trip and that was in my Standard Range. Hopefully they have the adaptor from the previous owner. If not, it's worth getting one of the 3rd party ones while you wait for yours (I recommend the new A2Z one, I also have a recent video on that 🙂) Navigation is a bit clunky and it takes more effort than it should because neither the internal route planning nor Apple or Android have been updated with the Tesla Superchargers. Hopefully an update is coming soon! Buying used means someone else already took most of the depreciation hit and as long as you find a good deal I think you're not exposed to anything dramatic there especially since the T3 next generation truck is delayed until 2027. Most of the big hits happen in the first year or two. Now the tougher question with buying it used, is really around the warranty. With a 22' and 20k mile you have about a year before the bumper to bumper expires. I am normally not a fan of extended warranties, but with EVs in general everything is so expensive that I would problem try to find a good deal on one. Check out Granger Ford as a place to start. They have a good reputation for their pricing. I would not be concerned with the battery or motors since they are good for 8 years and 100k its all the other little stuff. When I had the battery module failure early on, I was fortunate that Ford extended my warranty to 6 years and 70k miles as a gesture of goodwill. I think it's something worth considering.

[@richardgodshaw]

@bowefamilyEV thanks so for the reply and I'll plan on watching that video you suggested. Again wonderful video, I enjoyed watching and it was very informative.

[@edntam4evr]

I think the one thing they should have done was put the charger in the rear like the Silverado and Hummer that way when you pull up to Tesla Super Charger you can back in as intended.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@edntam4evr I don’t think they ever imagined they would have the Tesla network open to them and having it up front is less expensive and saved weight for the wiring harness and also is set up better for towing. (Not that it does that particularly well)

[@Ben_Anter]

nice mods

[@bowefamilyEV]

Thanks for watching! Sometime just little things can make a difference. 🙂

[@JamesVanBuren-qs5rp]

Every now and then when I start my lightning, it changes from my user profile to the default user profile. I wonder if that’s what’s happening with yours when your driver screen changes to the calm screen. Top right icon on your main screen will show you which profile you are in. Wish I knew what caused it. Same with radio presets as those are tied to user profile.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@JamesVanBuren-qs5rp I have seen that once before but this is more frequent and all the other user profile settings are correct. It’s super odd for sure.

[@pstoneking3418]

Since I'm the only driver of my lightning, I set all 3 profiles to me and I've never experienced those kind of problems. I was going to recommend setting them that way as a test to see if the profile was the problem or not .

[@SmittyJay4040]

Wondering when you got your Ford NACS adapter? I saw you have AtoZ adapter in your under seat storage, do they both work?

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@SmittyJay4040 I have been lucky when it comes to the adapters. I helped A2Z with testing theirs before it was released because I am near the ChargePoint HQ in the Bay Area and they had a NACS charger. I have a prototype and production model and their new Pro model is in transit for me to test. The Ford adapter I was also lucky and was included in the launch event so have had it since the morning it was announced. I have videos from both you can check out but both work great. The biggest struggle with the A2Z is latch is manual and not intuitive. Their newest Pro model that you would get now, has a single button and look like it will solve the latch issue where sometimes people forget to slide and lock it in place. I’ve done more charging with A2Z than the official one. You’ll have no problems with either. I’ll do a video about the new one soon! If there is anything you’d like me to highlight let me know.

[@lazvarga3777]

Great Video!! Can you let me know what brand/type of phone holder you have installed on the side of the screen?

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@lazvarga3777 thanks for watching! Here you go … Spigen OneTap 3 (MagFit) www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BZ65NT76?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

[@lazvarga3777]

@@bowefamilyEV Thank you

[@belmontsykeh8998]

What phone holder are you using. Looks great

[@bowefamilyEV]

This is the one I used. I really like how I can rotate it to be in a portrait or landscape orientation with a press of a button. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZ65NT76/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@kjnichols1327]

Where’d ya pick up the bed extender?

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@kjnichols1327 I actually got it from for with my Ford Pass Points during a sale they were having. Greta extender but a bit of a pain to assemble. Need a nice big flat surface and to double and triple check that it’s level in all directions before you drill and rivet. Mine is slightly skewed haha

[@pstoneking3418]

Tesla charging stops will most likely change in an update after ford catches up distributing their free Tesla charging adapters.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@pstoneking3418 I sure hope it’s soon. It’s really bad trying to route plan atm

[@alexjansen2654]

Where did you get those charge port decals?

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@alexjansen2654 they are from Etsy! Same with the tailgate decals. I really like how they look.

[@joeymedaglia3354]

@@bowefamilyEV From which seller? I have a white 2023 Platinum and want to get inlays for the charge door and tailgate that match the lightning badging that is on the sides of the truck bed.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@joeymedaglia3354 this is who I got them from but that was 2 years ago so not sure if he still does. Probably could send him a message as well www.etsy.com/shop/LUDesignsNY?ref=notif_nfyfs&order=date_desc

[@joeymedaglia3354]

@@bowefamilyEV greatly appreciated!

[@RichieColemanSr]

I would love to purchase one but I live in Michigan 😢 and the monthly payment is insane 😳

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@RichieColemanSr I really hope the prices come down on them over time. They are a lot

[@RichieColemanSr]

@@bowefamilyEV Thanks 👍🏾

[@RichieColemanSr]

What phone clip are you using?

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@RichieColemanSr here you go, thanks for watching! www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BZ65NT76?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

[@sparkfire1223]

Beeping of the frunk is super annoying on the lightning. The screen issue with the dash switching is a bug, like many of the things with the software in this truck. Bluecruise kinda sucks so dont worry about it to much about not having it. The user interface and native tools are where this entire truck falls on its face. With that screen the bottom third is always dedicated to hvac which is a huge waste of space. No native apps and dependency on the phone is a swing and a miss. After two years of ownership as well I cannot fathom why we have a youtube app and no native streaming audio apps integrated. I think fords software team has failed on this truck in a big big way. Not showing any charge info is also a problem, I dont get how they ever shipped an ev without that data visible. The lag time for charge assist will never get better, if you go into bezel diagnostics you will see that the cpu is at 85% almost all the time sitting idle I think ford ran out of compute on the truck. Also not being able to use the apps while driving is a miss. All and all the truck is ok, the software is a pile of trash. I think you got lucky, or i was unlucky with a dealer that was able to handle your issues. I had to go though a buy back case with BBB to get ford to do anything about my issues. It was beyond frustrating. I think what I have noticed is the folks that are positive about the truck get a great all out response from Ford, where others that are critical get almost no help. Good video, calls out some good points. At the end of the day I dont think I would ever buy another Ford product after owning my 22 lightning plat.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@sparkfire1223 I’ve seen some people did a modification to remove the beeping. Good point in the compute. I didn’t realize there was a way to even see that percentage

[@sparkfire1223]

@@bowefamilyEV yep, bezel diagnostics you can see a bunch of cool stuff .. also lets you test the headrest speakers which two ford dealers told me was impossible. I want s software solution to the frink beeping personality

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@sparkfire1223 my software wish list is long! I was able to send a dream list email over to Doug Field who leads that area for Ford, hopefully he didn’t ball it up and toss it in to recycling lol

[@sparkfire1223]

@@bowefamilyEV fingers crossed :) .. At this point for me Ford needs to allow an hmi hardware upgrade and features. Feels like in 2 years the team isnt doing anything.

[@pstoneking3418]

I guess I got lucky. I love my lightning platinum. I'll never return to an ICE vehicle and probably won't ever need another vehicle. But if I did it would be a Ford EV truck. I charge my truck from solar run everything I need in an emergency from my truck. I've charged other EV's on the road with my truck. It's great having 9.6 kw of nearly endless AC power available wherever I go. My trucks SOC has never been below 20% and I only charge to 100% once a month. This truck does everything any of my previously owned F150's will do since 1983 & at a fraction of the cost. Even when I was solely charging from the grid I was only paying $.08/kwh in winter & $.12/kwh in summer. @2mpk that's driving 100 miles for around $4. And since winter range isn't quite so good, with the winter price drop, that's about the same $4/100 miles. My prius got 50+/mpg this 7000 lb truck pretty much doubles that range for me. I will say this, if I had to depend on public chargers I wouldn't have purchased my lightning. Period.

[@hieyeque1]

You're right to mention the politics surrounding EVs. It's truly a shame. Both sides are doing this new technology a disservice. I have a Tesla Model 3 (2023 RWD) - love it, so many myths out there about them. It's true there are some minor drawbacks (range / fueling speed / fuel access) , but those will be solved in the next 5 to 10 years. EVs are the future, not sure I'd have another ICE vehicle.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@hieyeque1 totally feel the same way. Hopefully we can change the conversation as more people experience EVs for themselves.

[@garyclack3807]

Speaker’s in the front yeah wright

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@garyclack3807 heck yeah it’s awesome! Perfect for a tailgate, a party, a BBQ hanging out at the park with the kids and at EV meetups! Check it out kzbin.infonywKmI6hAuQ?si=2rxn-ygDNRvQJZR1

[@garyclack3807]

@@bowefamilyEV. Looked at a today…was 57 grand not a bad looking truck not sure what size battery it had at that price

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@garyclack3807 hard to say, they are making so many deals atm. The standard range has been great for how I use it but if you can get an extended range you’ll never regret the extra miles. I just couldn’t afford it at the time.

[@02reaper]

Stop giving so much credit for the "Future" vehicles. Ford can add this information and technology to the current lineup.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@02reaper I’d certainly LOVE to see it, those wheels seem to be turning slowly for sure 😬

[@02reaper]

@@bowefamilyEV We all would Love to see it. The thing is, the more Ford focuses on the future vehicles and leaves it's current customers on hold or forgotten, the more customers will look at other manufacturers for future vehicle purchases.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@02reaper I agree! Fingers crossed the charging speed, Blue Cruise and Pro Power with the truck off update at least drops soon.

[@DreDresChapters]

The old lineup? That’s been stagnant the past 10 years?…

[@narcisoperalta7288]

How far can you tow a 7,000 pound travel trailer with it?

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@narcisoperalta7288 about 100 miles with the SR. Fine for a local landscaping business or when taking a boat to a local lake or marina or a trailer to a swap meet or flea market etc but if someone is doing serious towing regularly they typically are using an F250 or Silverado 2500 and I’d stick with diesel for those situations.

[@pstoneking3418]

To me blue cruise isn't all that great. When mine expires I definitely will not pay to have it renewed. Of course I don't do much driving and if i did I'd possibly renew my blue cruise. I love my massaging seats, which nobody can get on any models any longer.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@pstoneking3418 I guess it depends on how many premapped roads are around you also. We have a lot in the Bay Area. I think I just want it because I don’t have it lol

[@moderngunguy3666]

To me there is no excuse for a slow running or clunky operating operating system you can get a $50 tablet that works better than those so they need to step up their game and put high power computer systems in there so we don't have to sit around waiting it to load up in reality they need to team up with a tablet company and just put straight tablets in there

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@moderngunguy3666 you’re not wrong and hopefully the next one will be way better but man that wait until 2027 is rough 😬

[@miamisms]

Who drives 22k miles in 2 years? I’m 6 months in and already 10k

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@miamisms me hi 👋 pleasure to meet you. Kick your shoes off and stay for a bit. 🙂

[@bradshiff]

I heard rear window stickers give you +5 kw/h. This video is made for the modern American. Lazy and impatient!

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@bradshiff what’s lazy and impatient about the video? I’m not sure I follow 😆

[@YuenanCao]

User interface is so terrible vs Tesla, shocking really

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@YuenanCao they hopefully have learned a lot and I know the next gen vehicles will have the software team in house and lead by former Apple and Tesla employee Doug Field. It still won’t be Tesla because it will be Android Automotive based but it should be a big step forward from what we have today.

[@BrentRyley]

Ok but that’s subjective I like it but I have never tried the tesla

[@JohnDiMartino]

The standard range battery is a joke ,the ext range should be the standard, under 200 miles interstate is unacceptable. Ford overrates their range making the poor range even worse than they say it is.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@JohnDiMartino in the two years that I’ve had it it’s worked really well for my situation and circumstances. I get closer to 270 miles on a charge with the way I drive it around town and in commute traffic I’ve done a couple long road trips and it definitely does end up just under two hundred miles . if I had the budget the extended range would have been great. I’d love to see these trucks get somewhere in the $45 - $70k at the top end. With that said, I can get from my house to Sacramento and back or to Monterey and back or Half Moon Bay and back on a single charge so overall it hasn’t been a dealbreaker having the smaller one. Obviously that won’t be the case for everyone and there were a lot of people getting 23 lariat extended range trucks in the mid 60s, which is less than I paid for mine.

[@adammiddleton4037]

It really isn’t TERRIBLE