20,000 Mile Service | How Much Did It Cost?

[@alexandercoll4863]

I do oil, brakes, filters, valves myself. Honestly fluids, brakes, filters are operate level things. Chain/sprockets aren’t hard either. It’s just turning a socket and taking off/putting on things in sequence. KZbin!

[@racheltaylor6578]

I got charged £1300 for a service on a 2016 Street Twin with 6500 miles on the clock.New headset bearings and new chain and sprocket.£750 for labour.I felt like Triumph really ripped me off.Go to an independent garage that specialises in Triumphs and not to a dealer who will rip you off for labour costs

[@marksimpson5218]

Christ, I would be well pissed off.

[@chrisoftheot6272]

Wow Rachel! That's dreadful. I have a new Speedmaster and have had problems too (same Bonneville platform). I needed new chain & sprockets and valve clearances & shims after only 5000 miles. Sickener. I got the valves & shims on warranty, but still... I have found that not all Triumph dealers are good (unlike Harley, who seem to be much better). Cheers, Chris

[@redangrevival]

That is very expensive. Yes Often best to go to independent dealer, just make sure they can give you the official Triumph service stamp in your log book!

[@ianfutcher1518]

Motorcycle servicing at a main dealer is ridiculously costly now and triumphs seem to be one of the more expensive brands to service - things like changing the air filter are unnecessarily difficult to access and you quite often need to change the whole air filter assembly rather than just the filter. £1000 for a service !! You could buy a motorcycle for that .

[@ianfutcher1518]

@@birchwoodbiker so has everyone’s costs but their prices are disproportionate. There is going to be a lot of bikes without service history coming up for sale in the next few years. Motorcycle sales will also drop as a result of these ridiculous service costs.

[@tonebonetones]

Franky, outrageous! You were thoroughly ripped off, my son. More than my Ducati desmo service and even my Mercedes service. You are young, and hopefully, a lesson learned. Fowlers should be ashamed. Unless it's still under warranty, that motorcycle is not difficult at all to service, check valve clearances, etc. There are ample servicing videos and general web pages to help.

[@redangrevival]

Yes, I am relatively young! However it is a bit tricky to just refuse to pay the price they quote. I did try to get of bit off but that was all really 🥴

[@freemenofengland2880]

@@redangrevival What you need is an "ABBA Sky Lift" for less than £500 - that will allow you to take off the swinging arm for a grease and also get the front wheel off the ground for the steering bearings. Will pay for itself after just one service.

[@redangrevival]

@@freemenofengland2880 Thanks will take alook at those 👍

[@freemenofengland2880]

@@redangrevival I'm getting one for my Street Triple. They reckon its as good as a hydraulic bench for a fraction of the cost.

[@twowheelsquirrel]

And that ladies and gents is why you learn how to do it yourself! OUCH!!!

[@Chuubs]

Enjoyed this one dude, and there is no such thing as a too long video from you buddy. And great shout out for mental health at the end, one of the reasons I went out and passed my license last year, I never thought of myself as low/depressed or anything like that but the boost I feel when out riding is second to none. Take it easy buddy and keep up the great content.

[@redangrevival]

Thanks so much, that is great to hear 👍 Always gotta promote better mental health., and so glad biking is helping you out as well. It is such a great form of therapy 👍 Cheers

[@gwynnromano5881]

Years ago I rode the 1050 Tiger and thoroughly enjoyed the bike and its smooth power. All of the moto-mags seem to love the T-plane crank but like you, I don’t. I test rode a Tiger 850 while looking for my next bike and the vibration through the bars totally turned me off. I also test rode a T-120 and a Speedmaster that day and rode home on the Speedmaster to replace my Thunderbird 1600. I loved my T-Bird. Sixty thousand miles and zero problems but a wonky right knee made me realize it was time for me and my bike to lose a few pounds. Three weeks and I like it more each time I ride. Once again, thank you for bringing to light and supporting men’s mental health.

[@redangrevival]

👍 Greta choice with the Speedmaster and glad to hear you are enjoying it so much. It is such a nice sized bike! Cheers and ride happy

[@rickconstant6106]

A major service on my Triumph costs less than £40, and I know it has all been done properly. It's a 1978 T140V, and that cost includes all oils and filters, brake fluid change and valve clearances. In labour, it costs me half a day, some skin off my knuckles and a few swear words.

[@redangrevival]

Pretty good going 👍 Although I can imagine that is a fair bit simpler motorcycle than modern ones! I will be looking into doing it myself next time

[@anthonyprice5596]

I'm so glad I'm a mechanic, £980 that's half what I paid for my Triumph, I bought a T100 cat n Write off, less than 10k on it, I've done a full service on it, new parts to repair it including brake pads, oil filter, rocker cover gasket and shims still came in cheap. Bike parts arnt cheap but main dealer labour rates kill it. I've worked for prestige car dealers and labour was over £100 an hour plus the dreaded vat. In this day wouldn't it be nice if the government abolished VAT to help us all out.

[@redangrevival]

Yup it is the labour that gets you! Wish I was a mechanic haha

[@rickconstant6106]

@@redangrevival As a retired mechanic, I can tell you that only a small proportion of the hourly rate ends up in the mechanic's pocket. Most of it goes to pay for the flash showrooms and all the other overheads (including your "free" courtesy bike)

[@Grahamvfr]

Oh my giddy aunt, that's more than I lost in depreciation on my last bike. Fazer 1000, bought in 2013 £3,100 sold 2020 £2,250, serviced myself and covered 30,000 miles on it. Thanks for posting.

[@redangrevival]

🥴 That is tough to hear! Certainly felt it

[@Grahamvfr]

@@redangrevival At least your totally honest.... Just about everyone I have ever spoken to re motorbikes, always got a good deal on something, regardless of what it was, or whether I asked haha.

[@redangrevival]

@@Grahamvfr haha thanks 👍 Yes seems a though everyone gets the best deal!

[@rockintigger]

Well, I don't know how you guys ride your bikes, but i bought an 09 triumph 1050 Tiger new, sold it three years later with 36.500mls on it no shims, no chain an sprockits. Serviced it myself an saved by your price about three grand. I can only think you got a gold plated chain with solid gold sprockits 🤭

[@redangrevival]

Fair enough I suppose everyone does it their own way. Not all bikes wear and tear the same over mileage, can be variations of conditions etc... But yes it was a pricey one and I will be doing it myself next time!

[@RobertWilliams-oy9qk]

Blimey........ I am so glad when I boght my Royal Enfield Interceptor, I bought a Halfords Advanced 200pc toolkit and a set of feeler guages........ Good vid always like your content

[@redangrevival]

Yup I will be getting myself a set now!! Cheers

[@lesterhall5310]

Really appreciate this vlog, I live in Australia now but 10 years ago fowlers and riders were regular haunts of mine particularly for the fry ups. I bought several bikes from fowlers, Triumphs mainly and always found them very professional and helpful. Hell of a price for that service though i must say. The last full service on my 650 interceptor at my local dealer here in Queensland was 10,000 Kilometres, thankfully with valve adjustment was under $400. about £200. Good old Royal Enfield. Still love the Triumphs though. Cheers from down under Lester.

[@redangrevival]

Hi Lester, it is my pleasure and really glad you enjoyed the video 👍 I have always enjoyed a visit to Fowlers, and yes of course a fry up and coffee! Yup they sure do charge for the service, I was expecting something like that though. Cheers

[@richardsutton01]

Not only is that an horrendous cost but I wouldn't trust any garage to do the job properly. Apart from the re-map, it's all simple stuff which doesn't need any special tools. If you learn how to do it yourself you will pay 1/10th of the price and get a better job done. 👍

[@marksimpson5218]

Totally agree Richard, but a lot of people out there are not confident with doing it themselves. Some people have no idea, how to adjust a chain, take a wheel out, etc etc.

[@redangrevival]

Yes I am now very much considering taking a course on how to do it myself! 👍

[@paulnunn1039]

I can bet they did valve check on a warm / hot engine?? Should be completely cold. When ever I've had mine done, the bike had to be dropped off the night before..

[@elliott212]

Exactly. A valve clearance should be done on a stone cold engine.

[@1mikefrost]

Exactly

[@redangrevival]

I forgot to mention in the video, they had the bike for 2 days!

[@johnhall4445]

That’s right, Spring and time to ride but don’t forget to wear all the gear all the time. Be especially careful about your feet and make sure your boots provide all the protection you need! Enjoy!

[@redangrevival]

Absolutely, stay safe 👍

[@mikebrock8829]

Hi Angus. Ouch! My bmw f800r is due a 16k service. I'm happy to let a trusted mobile mechanic ex bmw, work on it once a year to do the stuff I can't. Very reasonable charges. You were on my commute run on this, surprised I wasn't in the video! Biking the only way to get around here. Cheers

[@redangrevival]

Hi Mike, yup certainly felt that one! Oh well all done now and Speedy is riding great 👍 100% motorbikes are the answer. Cheers

[@lokidraven1273]

I'd love to see another tour! I watch all the speedy related stuff since I have the same bike, but I like seeing the stuff over there and how you camp since I'm in the US

[@redangrevival]

👍 Thanks really glad you would like to watch another tour series. They are my favourite to make and can't wait to do another one. Cheers

[@johnwood4448]

WOW! An 18,000 mile service on my NT700 Deauville including oil and filter,air filter,valve clearance check and adjust(including new rocker gaskets),new sparkplugs,shaftdrive oil change,brake fluid and coolant check,rear brake pads and a new pair of Dunlop tyres cost me £750 at Blackpool Honda maindealer. Without the tyres and brake pads the service was just over £350,considering the plastics they needed to remove to even get to the servicing I reckon it was a bargain if Fowlers are anything to go by

[@redangrevival]

Yup that is a great deal you got! I certainly felt this one 🥴

[@colingoldthorpe5918]

Try a Trophy SE 32,000 km service, no change out of $2000 CDN dollars. Thats one reason why i bought another bike to save racking up the miles on my big tourer. But when you look at the Trophy there is a ton of crap that has to come off to get to the engine!!!

[@redangrevival]

Good idea, a second run around bike could be a good option 👍

[@delbertstringbreaker7686]

There used to be an excellent magazine called Motorcycle Mechanics which dealt with DIY servicing and much more ...

[@redangrevival]

I suppose KZbin has taken over from that a bit now!

[@guspeake6167]

Good vid. Big bill. Bigger smile on his choppers! Good luck if you are happy 👍

[@redangrevival]

Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video 👍 I am happy with the bike and work, the price however was a bit much. Will do myself next time !

[@Paulie44]

Any chance you could do more videos of your Speedmaster please. In particular which accessories you wish you had bought and which haven’t lived up to expectations (ie luggage options, backrest for pillion, mid-foot controls, dresser bar, highway pegs, spotlights etc)

[@redangrevival]

Hi, yes I will try to fit that video in my schedule 👍 I have been meaning to do an update video on the Speedmaster

[@neilpuncher63]

I'm considering buying a 1200 Speedmaster and this video has made me think about it a bit more cost wise! Are all main dealers this expensive nowadays? I used to get my Honda F6C serviced by Honda all the time but that was about 12 years ago, I wonder what they charge now?

[@TheBoozeFreeBiker]

If you doing the NC 500, suggest you do it clockwise then the sun (hopefully) will be behind you as you travel the best bit (the west coast) tips :- take your time, include Skye, take midge cream and enjoy. I did it in 2021. This year I am off down through the French Alps to Monaco and onto the Pyrenees. Cheers.

[@redangrevival]

Thanks that is great advice to have 👍 I wouldn't have thought of that! Have a great trip this year. Cheers

[@nickjury5198]

WOW!!! £900😧 I was thinking £400 max as its a main dealer and they always add a little more🤔 well actually a LOT more😂 however I almost fell over when you said £900. I know prices have gone through the roof recently but £900 is, putting it mildly rather excessive.

[@redangrevival]

Yes it was a bit of a stinger!

[@pete36524]

Ouch that is eye watering, even taking into account the valve clearance. Must admit I can’t see how they get to a service price that’s more than one for a Range Rover. Glad you bikes sorted though👍

[@tonebonetones]

Yes, simply disgraceful and indefensible cost. Hopefully, it will it least save some other poor sod being ripped off in that area.

[@redangrevival]

Bit much isn't it! I was expecting a lot, but that is just too much really. However nice to have the bike in top condition. Cheers 👍

[@Dave-sw2dm]

Making Harley Davidson look much better. No valve adjust. 100,000 mile drive belts, easy to do flood changes. Get the brake fluid changed every two years.

[@Paulie44]

How do’s mate 👋😃 Missing your Speedy videos and hoping you’ll be uploading more content soon. Random rides through the countryside and stopping at interesting pubs to look over your bike are most welcome because your channel is synonymous with the Triumph Speedmaster.

[@redangrevival]

Hi, I am all good, thanks for asking 👍 Unfortunately just been so busy working recently. I hope to get some more videos up asap. Apologies for the lack of content. Cheers

[@mloclam6917]

Shit I couldn't afford the services let alone the bike

[@Tomahawkfalcone]

Were you happy with fowler's? Last couple of times I went there they were dreadful. Love those speedmasters

[@redangrevival]

Yes I was happy with the customer service. The guy I dealt with was very personable and helpful.

[@jaysworld5378]

Cool Video! You need to see Southern California Traffic, once you do, you won't mind the traffic where you are , haha. 20, 000 miles, wow, I am barely at 200 miles on my Triumph Bobber.

[@redangrevival]

👍 Thanks so much I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the video. Yup have put some solid miles on her and enjoyed every one. Cheers

[@Jimo368]

Good idea for a video. FWIW, I have a combined distance of 160k kms on my 3 Suzuki’s and I check the valve clearance myself and none were ever out of spec.

[@redangrevival]

Thanks glad you enjoyed the video 👍 Testament to Suzuki's build quality. Can't say I would trust the same of a Triumph! I will be doing it myself next time though

[@Rinkydink73274]

Nice video,but that service cost is criminal and you have no guarantee they have even done the valve check,that's why I do all my own servicing..an independent garage would of been a third of that cost,sorry but I can't stand rip off merchants..

[@redangrevival]

Thanks glad you enjoyed the video 👍 Was a tough price for me to swallow!

[@freemenofengland2880]

Come up to Matlock Bath sometime and I'll buy you a cuppa! There's a motorcycle mental health charity based there as well as it being a Biker hangout.

[@redangrevival]

👌 Sounds like a great idea

[@michals1108]

my BMW 1250RS 12k one in may will be around 400£ so ... can't wait:) also in Bristol :)

[@redangrevival]

Certainly better then £900 👍

[@michals1108]

@@redangrevival hehe yeah

[@billycross3785]

Great video 👍

[@redangrevival]

Thanks so much I appreciate it 👍

[@TS50ER]

Buy a service manual and do the oil change, air filter, and the brakepads yourself. Also ask the mechanic if you can strip the bike down of parts, fairings, etc to cut down on labour cost for the valve check and adjustment.

[@redangrevival]

Yup I will definitely be doing this next time around! 👍

[@edwardsp1916]

I've bought two bikes from Fowlers and unfortunately I've not been happy with their service. They seem too busy, and Customer Service is a victim of their success.

[@redangrevival]

That is a shame to hear. Yes they are very busy and I can see how that could happen. Must say I was pleased with there customer service on this occasion

[@dreamcrusher112]

Bonkers mate. I have a German performance hatch and the major service, gearbox oil and differential oil came to £200 less than yours! Definitely suggest a non-dealer service. Imagine the cost of that plus seals or a sprocket and chain? Robbery for a bike. Not far off 10% the value of the bike in one service.

[@redangrevival]

Yup was a bit of a painful one. I suppose it is the official Triumph dealers that can get away with charging this much!

[@volt8684]

Welcome to triumph dealers😁😁😁learn to do it yourself. Its only the electronics u cant do. Its why I ride older bikes

[@volt8684]

How much was the labour alone

[@redangrevival]

Yes, I just feel doing it your self you don't get the dealer assurance of service when selling the bike!

[@rickconstant6106]

There's no such thing as a free courtesy bike - they factor it into the service cost. That's an eye-watering price, I only paid £1000 for the last bike I bought, 18 months ago. I'm a retired car mechanic, so I've always done all my own servicing and repairs, cars and bikes. It breaks my heart that I have to pay someone else to service my car since I retired, because I don't have access to a workshop for it, but no-one else touches my bikes.

[@redangrevival]

Yes I think you may be right about that! It is a lot of money, but I am still glad I have the official dealership record for service. However they should not charge so much!

[@Eric_Cleckler]

Hope you are well Red! I’m sure you still have your speedy. How many miles now? Do you have any plans of an update video?

[@redangrevival]

Hi I am doing very well thanks so for asking 🙌 Definitely still have Speedy, I have just been so busy working so not able to post on YT for a while. I definitely plan to do an update video at some point. All the best to you

[@johncadogan9450]

They would have only changed the oils and filter thats, I wourked for one of these shops and they will rip you off no end and put a smile on it just to make you feel good.

[@redangrevival]

Very annoying!

[@3kdn]

We are just simply ripped off by main dealers these days. Yes their costs have gone up, and all they do is pass them on to customers, but also stick their massive percentage profit on top. And for reference, a friend had his 40.000 mile service done at a Triumph dealer 2 weeks ago, including brake pads £620. (15 plate 1200 Tiger explorer)

[@redangrevival]

Yes they really can take advantage of you, I like getting it done by an official Triumph dealer but the prices are crazy!

[@stepheneldridge6998]

I must be missing something...or maybe I'm a bit dim, but I cannot understand why the new Triumphs are so horribly expensive to service...people seem to accept paying a thousand pounds for a service!!. The bikes themselves are fab...theres a Triumph scrambler xe with my name on it somewhere !! Enjoy your next adventure, cheers, Steve

[@redangrevival]

You and me both! I am not too sure why they are so expensive. I suppose bikes are getting more technically complicated every year and along with rising costs, servicing is just increasing. Many thanks, and good luck finding your xe 👍

[@winksmt01]

Fowlers must have big windows. They see you coming. Total rip off.

[@redangrevival]

They do as it happens! To be honest though, that is a fairly standard charge for this type of service from any official Triumph dealership.

[@marksimpson5218]

And a very low door, so you bend over on your way in.

[@redangrevival]

@@marksimpson5218 🤣

[@stevemower4639]

Flippin eck mate that's expensive !.I live near you and went to Fowlers years ago to buy a new Bonneville from them but eventually got it somewhere else ( Bishops ) because the sales guy wanted to charge me extra over the Triumph otr price by adding an admin cost on top . The other dealer didn't want to stick an admin charge on top and also having ordered some Triumph accessories through them,fitted all of them free of charge.....On a different note don't forget about the new 20 mph limit from Lambridge to Winsor Bridge.Ride safely .

[@redangrevival]

Yup the bank account really felt that one! 🥴 Prices really do vary from dealer to dealer. I was very pleased with the service from Fowlers, however a bit pricey. Cheers

[@kugangles9860]

I thinking the whole "lubricated pivot points" they nail you with entails just spraying it with some WD40/penetrating oil.

[@peterross8392]

As long as you are happy . I wouldnt be. Thats a crazy cost. I got 2 bikes and never came anywhere near that cost for a service. But if you're happy enjoy

[@redangrevival]

Must say I am not happy with the price, however the bike feels great and I am not going to loose sleep over it. Not worth it! Cheers

[@KnightRider1157]

That's bloody ridiculous. Just had 18k service on my tiger 800 by MuddySump and it was well under half that including valve check on my Sprint st1050.

[@chrisoftheot6272]

Morning RedAng - that's not so helpful for mental health! Crickey. Glad you don't seem unduly upset by it. I was interested by the ECU remap: my understanding is that new Bonnevilles can't have a re-tune 'cos of Triumph software protection. Shame. I too have to nudge the throttle a little on take-off which, compared to my old Sportster, is a bit tedious. (Plus I forget from time to time so stall it, most embarrassingly.) I'm looking forward the ECU remap video. (ECM in Harley speak - that's just what I'm used to!). Cheers, Chris

[@redangrevival]

Yup very pricey one, but I was expecting it to be expensive to be honest. The bank sure felt it, but cannot let that get me down, I won't be loosing any sleep over it! Yes I have been told a few times that they cannot re-map the ECU, however Fowlers have managed it! Ride really well now. The stalling issue is becuase the bike is running quite lean from stock. Cheers

[@tomryner5830]

I know it’s an old upload but Hopefully you’ll see it. I have question regarding touring and the Speedmaster. As I am a Speed Twim 1200 owner I know My bike isn’t suitable for other than shorter journeys with a pillion rider and luggage because of hard to set preload and well… tiz a sportier bike mainly for the one rider… so how does the Speedmaster handle journeys? Would it handle let’s say… 2000 miles without being a pain for a pillion rider But… yes a Tiger 1200 is in my radar for those longer trips.

[@redangrevival]

2000 miles! To be honest that would not be fun for the pillion! The bike can handle it no problem, but much better for one person. Depends on how "hardy" your pillion is

[@kevingantniersr6510]

Such a nice looking ride.

[@redangrevival]

👌 thanks

[@paulscofield8506]

As a mental health sufferer ,may I thank you for your efforts to help neutralise the stigma ( much better than it used to be) of mental health issues ❤

[@redangrevival]

Thank you. All the best to you and sending you happy vibes 🙌 Take care

[@garethtemple6242]

Wow...£985! That's a bit eye watering. I've recently bought a new Honda NC750X Dct and was shocked by the £249 quote for the first 600 mile service (which is barely more than a safety check). What is it about the cost of motorcycle serving... how can my twin cylinder bike cost as much or even more to service than my technologically complex hybrid car! Great video, as always.

[@redangrevival]

Yup really felt the price on that one! I really don't know how they can charge so much, think most of the costs go into labour. I will be looking inot doing the service myself next time 👍 Cheers

[@raybrensike42]

So the lesson here is look at the money you can save over the years when you learn to service it yourself. It might turn out to be the cost of the bike itself given enough time. I've been riding drive shaft bikes for nearly 40 years but have had my share of chain drive also, especially because of dirt biking. I found a company that made stainless steel sprockets that advertised that it would likely be the last sprocket you would ever buy. It had to be laser cut out of some very hard material. They were right. I could not wear it out. I wonder if anyone makes stainless steel chain? I remember wearing out chain, running them until the rollers fell off, and I ran a front sprocket until the teeth were so far gone it began jumping on the chain. The teeth were not pointed at all, but rather looked like gentle waves. Chain drive is very dependable. Lots to be said for chain drive actually. I found some chain lube that was also awesome, so much so that I was accused by several people I rode with because in the middle of a desert poker run my chain was the only one that was still black and looked wet. They thought I was lubing the chain, and I was not. I forgot what that brand was but it was awesome, and it never flung, just as they said. If I had a chain now, I might try some tungsten disulfide powder mixed in a spray bottle of alcohol, or just go with plain old heavy grease and wipe off all excess, just to keep the chain from rusting, and then just run it 'till the rollers fall off, but then you better have some real tough sprockets or just replace everything as set as recommended. I did really like the shaft drive. (Old BMW K) but then you did have to take the entire rear of the bike apart all the way to the clutch to lube the splines once in a while. Learn to do everything yourself is my advice, and do actually do it. Jack up the front of the bike to check the steering head bearings. They like to wear a notch in the race from all the potholes while riding straight ahead. If you move the wheel side to side, there should be no notchy feel. If there is, replace them. Do Not tighten them if they feel notchy, but you do need some bearing preload. I don't believe the front wheel should bang over to it's stops by itself, but there should be slight resistance felt. Check your manufacturer on this, but most people could do most all of the maintenance yourself, and you do have to keep maintenance. It's all a part of the ride.

[@johnclark1925]

Wow. That has decided it for me. Dealer service until the Warrantee is out then do it myself or an independent. £900. You poor chap. Keep on with the videos. Great entertainment and good for my motivation. I hope to buy a Speedmaster soon.

[@redangrevival]

Yup crazy price! Thanks really glad you enjoy the videos 👍

[@LionTheHeart]

That's a stinger... gotta be done though Scotland or Wales.. both very picturesque.. have to call in the Lock Ness museum if you get to Scotland.. make an Interesting video Nice video Cheers Angus

[@redangrevival]

Yup felt that one, but all worth it at the end of the day 😎 Wales could be a good option, bit closer than Bonnie ol'Scotland! Cheers

[@big500]

I’ll be doing that service myself when the time comes..£100 quid on parts, and I’ll spend the rest on petrol👍

[@redangrevival]

Hope it goes well 👍

[@simonchilli2088]

In reality the free bike loan and insurance of it is included in the price. If you were to look up 2 days hire & insurance I wonder what it would be. Also it seems just changing the exhausts is more complicated than we think.

[@redangrevival]

Yes, not really a free loan bike! Yes I was told when changing the exhaust that the ECU would work it out on its own. However it is much better now after the re-map 👍

[@simonchilli2088]

@@redangrevival I had a quick look on line about it and one article said it can take allday. By the sound of it you did actually pay for that. However what price your mental happiness? Or what price golf clubs or fishing tackle and the cost of doing either of those hobbies. I don't think golf would help with many people's mental health tho😂

[@fantastic_voyage]

Hi.....did you ask them if the valves were out of spec....regards...

[@redangrevival]

Hi, I actually didn’t! I was too focused on the re-map 🥴 Annoying that would have been nice to know

[@fantastic_voyage]

A lot of my buddies who do their own valves find maybe one or two are out of spec...but not by enough to worry about....nice vlog by the way....

[@redangrevival]

@@fantastic_voyage Thanks, yes something to definitely learn to do myself in the future! Cheers

[@someoldude7578]

Hi, Can you tell me where you got your phone case/Holder on your speednaster handlebars. Cheers. Enjoying your Videos. Getting my new Speedmaster in about 3 weeks ..can't wait. Happy riding 👍👍👍👍

[@redangrevival]

Congrats on your new Speedmatser 👍 Yes it is actually meant for bicycles! I got it from a shop called Halfords

[@someoldude7578]

@@redangrevival Many thanks for replying. Best Wishes.

[@lesparry4110]

I bought a new Rocket from Fowlers and use them for the items that I cannot do myself like 20000 mile valve clearance check which I had done this time last year. Cost all in with a set of new plugs as they had to remove them as part of it plus cam cover seals and the dreaded vat was £260.00 so not to bad in the grand scheme of things. Going in again soon for brake fluid change again this has to be carried out by the dealership as the bike has ABS they quoted £90.00 as this is a std charge for this job which again not to bad. But it comes down to what a person can or cannot do themselves as the labour rate I worked it out last year was £100.00 Hr from another Triumph dealership quote. Changing oil and filter is not rocket science along with brake pads, coolant and giving the bike the once over.

[@redangrevival]

To be honest, I don't know why but I was expecting a price like this! It is the labour that does it

[@johnludmon510]

I have got to get my Harley it’s 20k service which is a big one (oils ,fork oil and head bearing greased etc.) and am expecting a similar sized bill with labour costing £150 an hour. Yours was inflated by new brake pads which can easily be another £100 if all of them need changing these you could have done yourself and saved a bit pretty easily. The thing is not everybody is capable of doing valve adjustments (shims under buckets no thanks) and if you are getting good service sometimes paying for it is the best way to go.

[@redangrevival]

A sensible comment and view on the situation 👍 thank you! Yes it was a bit pricey, but to be honest I was expecting it. Hope your Harley service isn't too much. Cheers

[@RedfordBaron]

Triumph are a bit of a rip off it costs £240 to get my 2021 t120 serviced and the same service at BMW for my 2020 1250 GSA £185

[@redangrevival]

Seems as though Triumph are at the top end of costs nowadays!

[@yorkshireperson]

That bill's a ridiculous amount of money, and while people pay it dealers will keep charging it and bike manufacturers will keep saying your bike needs it and your warranty will be invalidated if you don't. It's why I own older bikes, do what I can myself, and use local independents when I need to. You really don't need a new bike that is tied to these crazy costs to get the full enjoyment of owning and riding a motorcycle.

[@redangrevival]

I agree you definitely do not need a new bike to enjoy riding! It is a bit of a tricky one when you want to get it serviced at an official dealership, they have you in a corner really

[@ruffleschips9055]

I'll have to stay with a motorcycle in which the valves are adjusted by screw and lock nut. I wonder how the valves are adjusted on the Yamaha Tracer 700 and 900?

[@volt8684]

Honda nc750. Nothing is not diy

[@marksimpson5218]

Shims on most new bikes including tracer 700 & 900

[@HardyBunster]

What they did wasn’t a lot really. How many hours did they spend on it?

[@stigg333]

Think you got ripped off there mate, never had a service cost like that on any bike including Fireblade, SP1, R6 or Harley!!!

[@paulgibson490]

I thought BMW prices were high my gs1250 cost just over £300 for its 24000 mile service including valve check won't complain in future. My old explorer 1200 was about £350 for the full valve check service at 20000 miles about 4 years ago glad I live in the North East much cheaper up here.

[@redangrevival]

Wow I would like those prices, might have to move up north!!

[@benjamin.f.b.]

hourly wages for mechanical work make up 30-80% of service costs depending on what you r having done. It is up to you, whether you want well paid mechanics or not, even if they do not see nearly the full buck you r paying for hourly labour, they ll see some of it.

[@redangrevival]

Yup its all in the labour costs

[@Woodsieone]

If you're going to do the NC500 (very busy at times they say) then you really need to visit the Isle of Skye, such a beautiful island with lots of wild camping on the east coast ;) ps: just an idea - maybe spend a bit of time and cash on a bike maintenance course?

[@redangrevival]

Thanks for the advice 👍 Would love to visit the Isle Of Skye! Yup I think a maintenance course is a great idea. Cheers

[@keithmoore5224]

Iv always done my own maintinance its not hard but i do have two brothers who are time seved macanics i always get a manule but i under stand that not every one is capadle or macanicly able iv talket to some shop staff and i wonder all they can do is oil changes ps the best macanice is a oil change

[@redangrevival]

I would like to do a short course perhaps to learn more about maintenance etc... Next time I will do the service myself!

[@melvynrogers3149]

Yes that is excessive...but what do you make of this ..on my last triumph i was attempting to do an oil and filter change but the filter was siezed on ..so i contacted a triumph dealer and tgey said they would only get the filter off as part of a service not as a one off job..so it cost me over £400 on my old 865 speedmaster...

[@redangrevival]

That is ridiculous as well! However I suppose as big main dealers they can't just do very small jobs the whole time, as they would be working at a loss. Even so that is taking the piss a bit

[@melvynrogers3149]

@@redangrevival yep

[@alandmorley]

You should have traded the bike in, instead of having a service. Might have been better value, instead of spending nearly a grand on a service.

[@enfieldlover8145]

beautiful video but... 15.00 min video and reveal is at 14:30 :)))) good luck with the beast!

[@redangrevival]

Thanks glad you enjoyed it 👍 Yes I know I did leave it a bit late!

[@ClassicRider]

Before I hear the total - im guessing $2,000 USD ! 983.00 lbs = $1,176.73 - Most labor was on the valve adjustment- =>16 valve's - how did they do it, and how long did it take? - btw: nice bike !

[@marksimpson5218]

It’s not 16 valve’s it’s only a twin cylinder bike.

[@ClassicRider]

@@marksimpson5218 thanks for the reply

[@ClassicRider]

I assume in the UK bike shops are okay. I finally discovered one in CT/USA after dismissing two, and finding parts missing from a third fro some years ago. Being retired, I do my own mechanics,and feel more competent that what's in the market. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXq3en56gs-YnM0

[@redangrevival]

Thanks I appreciate it 👍 They had the bike 2 days, but obviously were not working on it all that time!

[@mondo2417]

Thats a bit of a sting, the remap was in the price of your Vance & hines exhausts if you bought them from triumph? i enquired a few years ago and asked why they were so expensive and thats what i was told at a triumph dealer, perhaps you need to check this expensive bill and make sure you haven`t paid for the remap again? i have my Speedmaster serviced at Shropshire Triumph in Stoke, i believe they do a good job, (certainly better than the services ive had done at non triumph workshops, and a certain triumph dealer in Chester !!) and reasonably priced for a triumph dealer.

[@redangrevival]

Yup, it was a bit of a sting, I was expecting a lot but not that much! I think most of the cost went into labour. Am sure they could have done it cheaper, but I like getting it done by an official dealership 👍

[@crumblymal8479]

Hey Red scooters good idea but the ones with decent sized wheels only like I have seen in Spain , but as long as they stay out of the way as those were on that road ..Like the Tiger 660 good mid range adventure I reckon ,but "ouch'' that must have hurt mate I was thinking 600 ish costs must have gone up drastically since I had my last valve job done a year ago on my bike gotta say i'm a bit shocked .😉👍

[@redangrevival]

Yup really felt that one! Bit much to be honest 🥴 Completely agree, the scooters need bigger wheels, they feel so "scatty" on the road. Also helmets should be mandatory I think. Cheers

[@cliveomahoney4096]

How much of the price for the service was the remap. £985 isn't a footling amount!

[@redangrevival]

To be honest I thought it might be something like that! Apparently they did the re-map free of charge 😁

[@cliveomahoney4096]

@@redangrevival Sorry, you said that the staff were really good. But, that's just too expensive for a routine (if major) service. How much was the 10,000 mile one? I had my Honda serviced last year, just a yearly one, it came to about £200. I told the dealer that's way too much and they dropped the price by £50. Which was still more than it should have been. But not funny money like the Triumph lot.

[@cliveomahoney4096]

The Speedmaster is not a complex machine. The engine is pretty basic.

[@redangrevival]

@@cliveomahoney4096 How many miles had you done on your Honda?

[@cliveomahoney4096]

@@redangrevival It esd was about 2,000

[@eddale5557]

I have a Triumph 900 and never had any service on it i do it my self and it cost 0 dollars so those 30 000 services are only a money grab for motorcykles companys and so on, same for my car never done any service on that i change oils, filters and so on, a engine do not need a adjustment to the valve or things like that it is only a scam to say and it cost thousands to even get into the valves so skip the whole 10,20 or 30 thousand service, change oil and filters and go over the brakes and change brak fluid now and then check the frost fluid on the bike and it is fine for years, and you can hear some strange noise if the valves are unjusted and i never think you wil hear that in the bikes or cars life time for the next 20 years! The valve is adjusted from the factory and it will not "change" by it self? and the use wil not say that you "must" adjust it so it is good for ever. And i have had mc for 40 years also cars and never had this services on anything and i never had any issue with any of them. I know you are worried that the enginge get broken if not have this service, nope it is no danger to the engine it won't be broken it make strange sound and use ton of oil or gaz then you must service it never do it if the engine run fine and are good with the gas use and so on!

[@redangrevival]

Thanks that is interesting to know. Yes I feel like they sort of do have you on this. However I do like to get them officially serviced so that when and if resale of the bike comes I can prove a good service record!

[@worldofameiso5491]

Labour costs are getting out of hand, both for cars and bikes. I stopped using the Skoda main dealer for servicing my car when I saw that they were charging me £138 (incl VAT) per hour for the work they were carrying out. I now use a small mobile independent mechanic who comes to my house and does all of the work on the driveway - he charges £60 per hour (incl VAT) and is excellent. When a vehicle has exhausted its warranty there is really no reason to pay the exorbitant prices that main dealers charge, unless of course you are very wealthy and money is no problem.

[@redangrevival]

Yes it really is the labour costs that do it! Crazy price.

[@1990-t1j]

Even at the current appalling exchange rate, in Chiang Rai I pay 2.50 GBP per hour to get my little KTM serviced. I had a GS for 14 years and 91,000 miles: the first of the 8-valve ones, the 1100. Those little electric scooters are stupid things. I like your Speedmaster's lines. 985 GBP is really expensive. But that's rip-off England for you.

[@redangrevival]

I wish I could get my bike serviced in Thailand! 😁 and ride there! Yup England especially now prices are just crazy. I think the scooters have merit, but just too dangerous on UK roads.

[@danhurley6152]

You could go to Martin Motorcycles in brislington hes a triumph tech all the software etc

[@redangrevival]

👍 Thanks for that I will check him out

[@nonsononessunooko4066]

bro this is insane my 125 cc chinese old style bike its 80€ at full service🤣 NO WONDER THEY GIVE YOU A COURTESY BIKE GODDAMN🤣🤣🤣🏍💥💥💥💥💥

[@redangrevival]

Yup crazy expensive! Hope the next one isn't that much

[@nonsononessunooko4066]

@@redangrevival try independent garage and ask them a preprice estimation before

[@redangrevival]

@@nonsononessunooko4066 👍 Cheers

[@1234567marks]

Absolutely insane prices being charged, and often at main dealerships the work is done by trainees that haven’t a clue, do the work yourself, fluid changes and pad changes are easy, if you want to check for fault codes and latest maps go to an independent and book it in just for that job.

[@redangrevival]

Yes the main dealer costs are crazy really. I just like having the official stamp in my log book for resale value. However am sure it won't offset the cost of this service 🥴 Cheers

[@1234567marks]

@@redangrevival I know what you mean regarding resale, but independents use stamps and most people would be happy with that I would have thought, but some people are finicky 🙂, especially those with no mechanical knowledge I guess 😄, I’ve got a few bikes and once the manufacturers warranty is out I do the work myself, keeping receipts for the oil/parts, Also I use top quality oil, the dealers no doubt use cheaper oils, I was really put off dealer work when I took my brand new Ducati scrambler back to the dealer because it had been delivered with a broken mirror tilt mechanism , their “mechanic” broke 2 replacements in-front of me, I then took the 3rd one from him and fitted it myself without a problem, he was approx 18 and clearly hadn’t a clue. , I took my Thruxton 1200 to the dealer for the basic yearly service cos I knew there was a new map just released and a recall on the sidestand , so with the winter service discount it was the most economical way of getting the map etc , I slackened the front calliper bolts, the chain guard bolts and left the chain just over max slack, all within safe limits for the ride there but under minimum, when I got home I torque checked everything and surprise surprise nothing had been touched, I called the service manager, he apologised and refunded me 50%, so I got the map upload and oil change for £60, seriously they are a bunch of clowns in my experience 😂

[@redangrevival]

@@1234567marks That is fair enough and thanks for the insight. Very interesting test you made with the bolts etc.. That is terrible of them. A very good reason to learn to do it ones self 👍

[@phildaniels1214]

Eek! Glad I was sitting down...Surprised that didn't include brake fluid or is that part of the 10k service?

[@redangrevival]

I think the brake fluid may be the 10k service, not too sure to be honest! Yup was a bit of a shock really. I was expecting a lot but not that much

[@georgekrpan3181]

I sold my motorcycle just before it's first major service was due at 16k miles. I then went out and bought a brand new motorcycle. The net cash outlay was $3600. I avoided a costly service, won't have a costly service for a long time, and got a brand new bike with a 2 year warranty and new everything, tires, brake pads, chain, sprockets, etc.

[@redangrevival]

Nice idea, I hope the trade off worked well and saved you some money 👍

[@georgekrpan3181]

@@redangrevival It probably didn't save money but it didn't cost much more and I have a new motorcycle with more features, quick shifter, adjustable suspension, and more power.

[@redangrevival]

@@georgekrpan3181 Sounds like a good trade 👍

[@pauljohnson4948]

Seems to me more expensive to run than a family car.

[@redangrevival]

This was an exceptionally expensive one. But yes not cheap!!

[@jaminic16]

If you have an interest learn to do the work yourself, I did a course 20 years ago and have not taken anything to a dealer for servicing since. The bonus apart from saving the cost is that I know that it has been done correctly which was not always the case with the dealer. Mike

[@redangrevival]

Thanks Mike, yes am definitely going to consider doing a course and learning it myself for in the future 👍 Cheers

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

If I put 20,000 miles on a motorcycle at that point I would go through one front tire and two back tires. I would also go through 2 Chainz and one set of sprocket.

[@jmlupoludowicy1239]

Holy Moly, you should contemplate full contact karate as you seem to take punches really well and keep a straight face! 😮 Since Scotland promotes the NC500 you have to book your B&Bs in advance. Make room for a trip to the Oarkneys and know that you can book B&B on the ferry on your way back. May is a good month for Scotland if you don’t wanna have rain every single day! 😅 Stay safe! Cheers, Lupo

[@redangrevival]

Haha can't let these things get you down! Not an ideal price, but I won't be loosing any sleep over, I was prepared for the shock. Thanks for the heads up, that is a very good point, booking in advance is a good idea 👍 Cheers

[@nodrog5150]

Dealerships always charge double labour costs and you also pay double for original parts...it's tough running a business so they have to offset the costs somewhere. Unfortunately, unless your lucky enough to have a local mechanic just round the corner working out of his garage it's always going to 🤕 hurt

[@redangrevival]

Yup, exactly my thoughts going into the service and I was expecting a high price to be honest! However for the next service I will be looking to do it myself.

[@mikepopelka2349]

All I can say is OUCH! That is quite pricey for the service. This tells me I should limit my mileage 😀if I can.

[@redangrevival]

Definitely felt it!! Haha yup one to remember for the future. Limit the miles 😂

[@geoffkemp4507]

Free courtesy bike 😂😂😂😂

[@davidcook380]

Total rip off , oil £35 Filter £10 Pads £60 Air filter £66 =£181 So over £800 labour OMG.

[@redangrevival]

Those are some cheap brake pads!! Perhaps you could get it done for that price but they don’t seem like quality components to me. Don’t forget the valve adjustments as well

[@johnterry804]

Wow that’s why I work on my own bikes? Valves adjustment so easy to do as well

[@davidcook380]

@@johnterry804 yes John there's no parts in valve work they just swap shims l recon the full service would not take longer than 4 hours so £200 p/h labour ,its criminal

[@johnterry804]

@@davidcook380 lol 😂 I rather buy tools get a good lot for 1 k anyhow he was ok for it?

[@lancerbiker5263]

Ouch. Is about what a week stay in Cuba would cost from where I live ! 🙂 Would doing your own maintenance void your warranty ? Will be minus 25 C here this eve. Come on spring ! Cheers

[@redangrevival]

Yup certainly felt that one! The warranty is over anyway, however I always like getting an official dealer to do the service for resale value

[@lancerbiker5263]

@@redangrevival Understandable. I keep all original parts receipts and log all my work. Seems to have worked out so far. 🥲

[@alexmorgan3435]

Ouch, £985!!! Well at least you got the correct map for Speedie with the V&H pipes plus all the service items done. For the valve check count yourself lucky that you don't have a 4 or 6 cylinder bike or a Ducati! You need to do another video of how smoothly your Speedmaster is running now, purring along. Sure would be interested in a Tiger 1200 or better still a 900 GT Pro with a triple engine WITHOUT the T plain crank nonsense!!! I want to change my Sprint ST1050 and test rode the 900 GT Pro but just hated the T plain crank triple engine that Triumph has put in it. Why, oh why???!!! Triumph have lost their way big time especially after the lemon that is the Speed Triple 1200RR. Don't change what is working well. Angus, I thought you lived in London? Did you leave the big smoke? Trouble with Scotland is that it is either cold wet and miserable or slightly less cold wet and miserable. And then there are the midges. How about a quick tour around France? Take a ferry from Portsmouth to Cherbourg or St Malo then ride around for about a week or however long you have planned. Head back up to St Malo, Cherbourg or other port on the northern French coast and back to Portsmouth. Portsmouth is a lot nearer then Scotland to Bath. The thought of a 400-500 miles ride up to Scotland on mostly boring and congested UK motorways to get to the start of the North Coast 500 puts me right off. How about riding the Wild Atlantic Way in Ireland or part of it? Riding through central and N. Wales to Holyhead to catch the ferry to Dun Laoghaire isn't too bad, quite scenic really if you choose a good route. But Ireland can be wet. Not known as the Emerald Isle for nothing. The west coast is stunning.

[@redangrevival]

Yup a very pricey one! But so pleased to have Speedy running so well and the new re-map is great 👍 So refreshing to ride a classic smooth Triumph triple, just beautiful motors. Yes I moved about 6 months ago to Bath! Bit quieter/cheaper etc... Thanks that is a good idea, would love to get the ferry across to Northern France 😁 Yes the slog up to Scotland would be very boring. I have some planning to do. Cheers

[@favoriteblueshirt]

A thousand pounds, bloody hell, what a rip off. They saw you coming, not only that they knew what time too. Crazy land.

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

I saw a video from the Orient where a guy's electric scooter caught fire and burned his legs before he jumped off his bike and it took three times for the police to put the fire out because the fire kept coming back. No thanks

[@davepersich3035]

Best trying to find an independent dealer or an ex dealer mechanic who works from home, or do it yourself. Remember, these big dealers have got overheads to pay.

[@redangrevival]

Yes I have to be honest I was expecting a big price like this! Never nice seeing the bill though. I will definitely be looking into doing it myself next service 👍