+20% Discipline, Morale & Horde SHOULD NOT Be ALLOWED In EU4 Cherokee Guide

[@LudietHistoria]

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[@segiraldovi]

Hey ludi,Could you make a guide about First come, first to serve and liga mayapan achievements?

[@andrei010.]

@Ludi et Historia I did ask on europa unversalis group "which religion is the best?" I got different answers but none were "totemism" Them I played native american as a Repubilc with frequent election ( the president just needs to leave the office and will become an ancestor..not until he is dead) so evry 3 years you could add an ancestor if you have the Diplo mana Jesus Christ !

[@garak55]

"Huh, our chief dies everytime we do a peace deal?" Man, just read the damn pop up.

[@LudietHistoria]

NO >.

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

@@LudietHistoria NEVAH!!!! DEATH BEFORE READING!!!!

[@tamaraloran]

@@LudietHistoria Warriors dont read books :D

[@biharek7595]

@@tamaraloran the sword is mightier than the pen

[@Elbaphomet71]

Who discovered America? ( ) Colombus ( ) Vasco da Gama ( ) Americo Vespucio ( X ) The Free Company

[@LudietHistoria]

And the answer is....CORRECT

[@ruslanmamedaliyev3912]

And thats why it is called freeland

[@Titantr0n]

Dude that's OP as hell. I'm so space marining Europe on my next campaign.

[@LudietHistoria]

yup, you should!

[@spacekicker4]

Europe will be like "do I hear battle music?"

[@av4693]

No wonder sunrise invasion was a thing in ck2

[@kekistanihelpdesk8508]

You'll get the plague on the first month :)

[@xyzzzify]

If you go horde and then monarchy you also swap from the terrible native units to chad Chinese tech units. You could potentially get Western units if you go catholic temporarily, but that would probably cause you to loose all ancestors.

[@suedetree970]

An actual native guide for 1.31. This is hype

[@LudietHistoria]

Hope you like it!

[@YellowZ04]

Yeah its super usefull for me. I reformed the government right before forming the iroquois.

[@GezenTavukkkk]

I have tried 1.31.6 and 1.32.1 but starting is nothing like it. I dont understand. All border nations have 7 thousand troops. Once you reach 8k to have the mission more troops than neightbours, all of them is now 10k. I guess I have to try each 1.31 patches

[@axavia]

Cherokee actually believed that a leader which is good during times of peace is likely not good during times of war; and vice versa. Therefore, when you declare war, you get a war-time leader. When you declare peace, you get a peace-time leader. Therefore, you can just do a war cycle to farm for ancestral aspects.

[@benry007]

Nice!

[@thomasfallows3917]

Another little trick as well (Unless its been patched). If you go Horde as a tribe in a colonial area and then from horde become a monarchy, republic or Theocracy you can actually form Colonial Tags like USA, Texas etc. It works in Australia too.

[@cameronford2830]

I think this still works, it's because you switch tech type to Chinese or something like that. Really cool.

[@sokyu7723]

It’s been patched, now you gotta convert religions to a non native religion to do that cause it changes your tech type based on religion

[@burakparlaktuna4505]

Indigenous + Horde?! - Nerf incoming next patch for sure. Ludi keep playing this cherokee and have WC please!

[@LudietHistoria]

Like legit this is super broken man, hope they patch it xD

[@C1azed]

Actually it's pretty balanced in the few multiplayer games I've seen where people actually start as natives the native player normaly loes the coastline but bounces back after 1600s

[@burakparlaktuna4505]

@@C1azed I didnt think about MP but for SP it is easy way for mayan horde WC imo. :)

[@MystifytheGreatSaint]

@@burakparlaktuna4505 The Mayan religion doesn’t work like Totemist. The only way you can do a Mayan horde is if you border a horde when you click Reform Religion.

[@burakparlaktuna4505]

@@MystifytheGreatSaint yes i know but it can be done. Check youtube for it.

[@BronzeEngraver1247]

if you choose the settle down reform on tier 3, you can transfer your tribal development into the province itself and there's no cap on how many irragation buildings you build. also if you complete all federation reforms you can get a new set of ideas, settle all provemces and still can build more irrigation buildings. I used these to get 636 dev with 90+ dev capitol and 2 20+ dev gold provences

[@janjone1706]

But the last time i try to did it i recogniced that the native buildings disapear as soon as you reform in a "civilised" government

[@xTORREfiolx]

Just pointing out that you can't reform to a horde if you have settled down. Also, reforming with the tier 4 appropriate reform when colonizers arrive allows you to get 2-3 institutions and maybe some tech at the cost of getting the form of government of the country you're reforming off of. Doing it with colonial nations makes you a republic, useful to cycle the ancestor aspects and getting the best ones. The cons is that they arrive waaay late...

[@lolmenx4]

That intro was crazy JASJSJSJAJS i love it. No censor.

[@BSideWasTaken]

They're a "war chief" so when you ain't at war... Also not sure if you saw but if you're cheeky you can basically have a 100+ dev megacity before the colonisers show up using the whole migrationi thing

[@drekbleh7081]

Aztecs: "BOLD WORDS FOR SOMEONE IN SACRIFICE RANGE"

[@alexandrosmath7457]

I've never played the natives this was cool to watch! I'm currently trying out navarra for the achievement. So many restarts lmfao

[@LudietHistoria]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@nick_unq]

@@LudietHistoria hey bro, do u have a navarra guide? Your guides is awesome

[@Infinitystar225]

I've been looking forward to a native guide

[@LudietHistoria]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@Nikwunu]

Same. It seems like something fun to mega campaign on.

[@shppen]

I mean Aztec guide is nice but I would love to see more of this :) Such a big brain play, I loved it!

[@wojownikmaryi1910]

Lubi please continue this guide, it was amazing!!!

[@sniippiggydigg]

Subbed for the guides, stayed for the humour. Keep it up dude!

[@SchiozerKID]

I literally looked yesterday for a native american guide from you! Awesome

[@gluedrinkerproduction]

I have been looking for a native guide all day this is either proof of a simulation or a well-timed upload ether way good video

[@LudietHistoria]

Error 404, NPC suspecting, restart....

[@ryszardmaciek4240]

Potawatomi is the best pick as they can have 10+ nations in federation in 1444, and with that and reform to call federation members to wars you can steamroll any enemy. In early i recommend declaring humilate wars (you get that cb on every neighbour and it has 0% cost for taking money), get few technologies, take native ideas and when you see settled tribes reforming (usually nations near Chickasaw do that first) you should wait abt 15 more years, unite federation and choose republic to have many opportunities for picking new ancestors. From policies to native ideas you can get additional 10% dev cost, and generic federation ideas also have 10% so its good possibility to play tall.

[@bobdenalio2074]

Thank you Ludi! Love watching your videos while eating lunch. I always look forward to it!

[@LudietHistoria]

Thanks for watching bob, hope you enjoy it sir

[@masterofjubal7561]

The Iceland guide Ludi, the Iceland guide. Don't forget. I'm watching you.

[@CatladyAyaki]

I am going to watch your videos non stop this weekend! I swear!

[@WhoopieTang]

Thank god, there was like zero natives guides post 1.31 before this

[@Infinitystar225]

Just a tip: the lower your stability is, the cheaper it is to migrate, I suggest staying at -2 stab until you settle or become a horde

[@davidwilliams7552]

Yep no cb wars to drop stab, don't go to stab 1 until you settle down, remember you have to stab up to -2 to declare wars though.

[@Arthion]

I like playing the natives, my biggest problem really is massive federation blocks forming that make early conquest painful, particularly as Navajo for example

[@davidwilliams7552]

In that case if you have no federation or a small federation try going for early allies, curry favours until they will join your wars. If you have a strong fed then make sure to go for the federation wars option asap.

[@DavidLodgeclassof]

This is the first video of yours I've watched twice. Partly because I'm starting a Cherokee "No Trail of Tears" run, but mostly to see you become repeatedly shocked at getting new war chiefs again.

[@LudietHistoria]

Ahahah thanks for watching twice David ^^

[@thiagoangelgonzalez4890]

This show us that the history would be sooo different if the Mongolians build strong ships

[@AndrishhRS]

Does it? The video game? Pretty bad example I’d say

[@RobertGoddard86]

@@AndrishhRS Education hurts.

[@davidwilliams7552]

-3 stab is the go for migrating cheaply - no cb wars are your friend. Love the triple show strength war!

[@brandonlyon730]

Doesn't that make aggressive expansion to go up really fast even if you don’t take anything, with giant coalitions forming?

[@lorrdy7640]

@@brandonlyon730 nope

[@davidwilliams7552]

@@brandonlyon730 not really a problem you need to basically be at constant war, taking tribal land when you can and the rest of the time taking prestige, trade power and war reps. This builds your economy to where you can construct buildings and get advisors. Don't focus on gold in wars as your allies or federation take most of it usually. A strong federation becomes like a vassal swarm you can just click war and watch them go fight for you!

[@davidwilliams7552]

You do gain +2 war exhaustion from no cb war but no problem you just choose a weak target far away from you.

[@michaelbazany9751]

Choose seasonal travel for tier 3, amass as much tribal land as possible. When you're satisfied, change to settle down in wherever you want your capital. Then settle your tribal land provinces, and *build irrigation in every one*. Irrigation nets you +.02 tribal dev for every province you have it in. You can get your tribal dev ticking at more than 1 per month easy. By the time you've westernized you're basically guaranteed to be #1 GP

[@davidwilliams7552]

I can recommend trying Navajo, Sioux or Onondaga (last one starts settled). It's a bit annoying that you have to start a game with one of the tribes before you can work out their starting situation but these tribes have a good start and extra missions that are essential to look at closely. Quizquiz is also a great start and has a special achievement.

[@aeriawindsor4722]

Yeah this undoubtedly peak Leviathan "feature"

[@ervest273]

That is what I waited for, finally non-aztec nation to play in new world. Thanks for de vibeo

[@derkreuzritter6789]

16:20 A good thing to note here is that federations also get a huge boost to their...whatever it's called, when next to a colonizer, and any tribe that is reformed counts as a colonizer. Also, am I the only one that doesn't get the war/peace leaders event?

[@deval97]

No im not getting them either!! i dont know why. I looked up the event triggers and I do have all of them as far as i can tell, all you need is to be a native tribe with 20 army tradition and at war

[@deval97]

Nevermind i just realised the mean time to happen is 96 months so you have to be at war for on average 4 years at a time to see it often

[@derkreuzritter6789]

@@deval97 Yeah after posting this I got the event twice, never happened again sadly.

[@ikermittmann2041]

Great video ludi! Im currently playing morocco from your andalusia guide and oh boy is it pain(i buyed eu4 4 years ago with no dlc and refused to play more than 7h until a month ago, now i have all of them praise the weekend discount) manage to get granada and algiers before 1448 along a 5/6/5 heir. The stupid start sultan died from disentery(lol) mid 1447 and I got a 5/6/4 regent. Just as april 1448 starts the castillians and portuguese decide they want my booty(no england:D) I get naval superiority and got tunisia and and my 3 vassals with me. My army started the war at 13k plus 5k of my vassals plus 16k of tunisia. I let 6k portuguese get to tangiers to kill them with a 20k stack. Battle goes good till a 25k castillian stack gets out of nowhere and smacks me in the face. 8k lost:(. I got 25 k to beat portugal and castille. I have naval supremacy so far and most of castille are busy sieging granada and i got 7k portuguese at tangiers. What should i do to turn this around? What are some tips to progress with my campain(consider im 2 steps from a complete noob) love your videos man:D

[@xanfortunato]

Great video, going to try this run soon!

[@sebastianpohl1268]

Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound That saved a wretch like me I once was lost, but now am found Was blind but now I see ;-) Amazing Graze !

[@peachprincess758]

Great guide Ludi!! I love it! :-)

[@LudietHistoria]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@corb_fy]

This campaign is impossible to replicate. All of my neighbors form big coalitions and confederations no matter how many times I restart.

[@MPLoura]

Yeah, I'm having the same problem. I even switched around looking for other tribes to play (Apache, Navajo, etc) but it's just alliance locked everywhere. Shame.

[@MrWootaz]

Awwww yisss Asst-takes Guide :3333 time for the updoot before watchung.

[@LudietHistoria]

noice :D

[@berkaivstheworld]

Dude this is amazing! also cant wait for the byzantium video :VVVV

[@MortaLRhymE]

Totemist mechanics most broken thing i have ever witnessed in this game. I am curious what would happen if you Only stacked ae reduction .( annexes whole france for 20 ae ?)

[@GrafSchocola]

Lol. You should be getting -20% for every leader with that trait. So theoretically once you've had 5 leaders with the ae trait you should be sitting at -100%, thus no ae whatsoever xD and that would only occupy half of your total slots

[@MuppetLord1]

@@GrafSchocola and if you did 6 leaders with it you would loose AE for taking lands? xD

[@sorsocksfake]

Or +400% improve relations. Or +20 shock pips. Or +100% discipline (Prussia say whoat?) :P Alas, according to wiki they can't be stacked, even if you get two leaders with the same trait (except I presume current leader and totem). And since it's RNGesus, the odds of getting 10 AE reduction traits are rather low anyway. But you could for instance get 10% AE reduction, 40% improve relations, 10% discipline, 10% morale,, +2 shock, +2 maneuver, -2% army tradition decay. And we'll toss in 10% idea cost, 10% tech cost and 20% production. Plus current leader trait. Seems to me the main downside is that you can't really convert much as totemists don't seem to get any bonuses in that regard? So if you're planning to take non-totemist land, it's gonna hurt.

[@GrafSchocola]

@@sorsocksfake I guess the number of missionaries is indeed quite limited as a Totemist nation. But since you can become a Horde as a native... Horde+Humanist ideas -> never ever worry about religious unity again and get absolutely bonkers ideas on top xD

[@davidwilliams7552]

Diplo rep is the best trait as a native it means you can more easily expand your federation!

[@kocajj]

I followed your guidance on this, but realized it becomes even more OP later. When you reform your Horde into a Republic and enact frequent elections, every 3 years you get a new ancestor and the ability to add their bonuses.... Allowing you to just cycle through, until you have dozens of ancestor benefits to choose from....

[@genbab6989]

There actually is a way to keep that tribal dev after modernisation. To do it you have to press settle tribe until all dev is gone

[@SrJesus-gw3po]

I dont get it :/ do you have a video in which they do that?

[@genbab6989]

@@SrJesus-gw3po I don't have a video no, but if you click on the province you want to sink dev into, on the top right of the menu that pops up there is a teepee with a green arrow, that's what you need to press

[@medievalcommunist766]

I had an insane amount of luck trying this out and in the first twenty years I got discipline, tech cost, and ae impact.

[@eyjafjallajokull1130]

i rerolled 20 times still no moral or disipline, goddmmt

[@BogdanAriasu]

I like that natives have cannons

[@LudietHistoria]

this is historical knowledge XD

[@andreafardo7370]

A tip to keep all the tribal developement is to befor changing to the last reform in the third refor there's a reform the give you the opportunity to sette the tribal developement

[@LudietHistoria]

very true sir!

[@suedetree970]

7:02 nice cut ludi

[@them4601]

Okey Ababco Abenaki/Abnakii Aberginian Abihka Abittibi Absaroka/Crow Absentee Shawnee Accohanoc Accominta/Agamenticus Achiligonan Achomawi Acolapissa Acoma Acquintanacsnak Acuera Adai Adena Culture Adirondack Adshusheer Agua Caliente Agawam Ahantchuyuk Ahtena Ais/Ays Akonapi Alabama/Alibamu Alchedoma Aleut Algonquian Family Algonquin Allakaweah Aliklik/Tatavium Alsea/Alsi Amacano Amahami Amaseconti Amikwa Anadarko Ancient Puebloans/Anasazi Androscoggin Anishinaabe Ani-Stohini/Unam Aondironon Apache Apalachee Apalachicola Applegate/Galice Appomattoc Aquackanonk Aranama Arapaho Arawak/Taino Arendahronon Arikara (Arikaree, Ree) Arivaipa Arkokisa Armouchiquois Arosaguntacook Ascahcutoner Assateague Assegun Assiniboine Assuti Atakapa Atanumlema Atasi Atchatchakangouen Atfaiati/Tualatin Athapascan Family Atikamekw Atquanachuke Atsina/Gros Ventre Atsugewi Aucocisco Avavare Avoyel Awani/Awanichi Awatovi Bahacecha Bankalachi Bannock Basawunena Bayougoula Bear River Beaver/Tsattine Bellabella Bella Coola Beothuk Bersiamite Bidai Bigiopa Big Swamp Indians Biloxi Blackfoot Blewmouths Bocootawwonauke Brotherton Buena Vista Caddo Cahokia Cahuilla Cajuenche Calapooya Callam Calusa Canarsee Caparaz Cape Fear Indians Capinan Carrier Cascade Catawba Cathlacomatup Cathlacumup Cathlakaheckit Cathlamet Cathlanahquiah Cathlapotle Cathlathlalas Caughnawaga/Kahnawake Cayuga Cayuse Chactoo Chafin Chakankni Chakchiuma Chato Chatot Chaui Chaushila Chawasha Chehalis Chelamela Chelan Chemehuevi Chemapho Chenapinefu Chepenafa Cheraw Cherokee Chesapeake Chetco Cheyenne Chickahominy Chickamauga Cherokee Chickasaw Chilliwack Chilluckittequaw Chilula Chimakuan Chimakum Chimariko Chine Chinookan Family Chipewyan Chippewa/Ojibway Chiricahua Apache Chitimacha Chiwere Choctaw Choula Chowanoc Chumash Clackama Clallam/Klallam Clatskanie Clatsop Clovis Culture Clowwewalla Coahuiltecan Coaque Cochimi Cochiti Cocopa Coeur d’Alene Colville Comanche Conestoga/Susquehannock Congaree Conoy/Piscataway Coos Copalis Coquelle Coree Costanoan/Ohlone Coushatta/Koasati Cowichan Cowlitz Cree Creek Croatan Crow/Absaroka Cuñeil Cupeño Dakota Dakubetede Dalton Period Deadose Delaware/Lenape Diegueño Diné/Navajo Dogrib Dotame Doustioni Duhare Duwamish E Esopus Eno Erie Eskimo/Inuit Esselen Etchimin Eufaula Eyak Eyeish F Fernandeno Flathead/Salish Five Civilized Tribes Fox/Meskwaki Fremont Fresh Water Fus-hatchee Gabrieleno/Tongva Galice/Applegate Grigras Gros Ventre/Atsina Guacata Guale Guasas H Hackensack Haida Hainai Halchidhoma Halyikwamai Han Hanis Hare Hasinai Hathawekela Hatteras Havasupai Hawaiians Hidatsa Hainai Hilibi Hitchiti Ho-Chunk/Winnebago Honniasontkeronon Hoh Hohokam Hopi Houma Housatonic Huchnom Hualupai/Walapai Humptulips Hupa Huron/Wyandot Ibitoupa Icafui Illinois/Illini Ingalik Innu Inuit/Eskimo Inupiat Iowa/Ioway Iroquois Ishak/Isleta del Sur Isleta Ispokogi Jemez Jeags Juaneño Jumano Kadohadacho Kahnawake/Caughnawaga Kainai Kalapuya Family Kalispel Kan-hatki Kamia Kanza/Kaw Karankawa Keresan Karok Kaska Kaskaskia Kaskinampo Kalapula Kato Kawaiisu Kawchodinne Kawia Kealedji Kennebec Keresan Family Kewa Keyauwee Kichai Kichtawank Kickapoo Kiowa Kitanemuk Kitksan Kitsai Klallam/Clallam Klamath Klickitat Koasati/Coushatta Kohuana Kolomi Konomihu Kootenai/Kutenai Koroa Koso Kosotshe Koyeti Koyukon Kumeyaay Kutchin Kutenai Kuitsh Kusan Ktunaxa Kutchin Kwaiailk Kwakiutl Kwalhioqua Laguna Lakmiut Lakota Lassik Latgawa Lemhi Lenape/Delaware Lillooet Lithic-Paleo Indian Period Little Shell of the Chippewa (Montana) Lochapoka Lohim Loucheux Luckamiute Luiseno Lumbee Lummi Lutuamian Macapiras Machapunga Mahican Maidu Makah Maliseet Manahoac Mandan Manhattan Manissean Manso Marameg Maricopa Mariposan Martha’s Vineyard Mascouten Mashongnovi Maskegon Massachusett Mashpee Matchoctic Matinecoc Mattabesic Mattole Maya Meherrin Meits Menominee Merrimack Mescalero Apache Meskwaki/Fox Methow Métis Metoac Miami Mical Michigamea Michilimackinac Mikasuki Mi’kmaq (Micmac) Miluk Mingo Mishikhwutmetunne Missouri Miwok Moapa Mobile Mocogo Moctobi Modoc Mogollon Mohawk Mohegan Mohican Mojave Molala Monacan Mono Mono-Paviotso Montagnais Montauk Moravians Moratoc Mosepolea - See Ofo Muckleshoot Mucogo Mugulasha Muklasa Multnomah Munsee Muscogean Family Nabedache Nacisi Nacogdoche Nakota Naltunnetunne Nambé Nanatsoho Nanticoke Napissa Napochi Narragansett Naskapi Natchez Natchitoches Nauset Navajo/Diné Neusiok Neutrals Neketemeuk Nemalquinner Nespelem Nez Percé New York Niantic Nippissing Nipmuc Nisqualli Nochpeem Nongatl Nooksak Nootka Noquet Nottoway Ntlakyapamuk Occaneechi Oconee Ofo Ohkay Owingeh Ohlone/Costanoan Ojibway/Chippewa Okanagon Okchai Okelousa Okfuskee Okmulgee Olmec Omaha Onathaqua Onatheaqua Oneida Oneota Onondaga Ononchataronon Ontonagon Opata Opelousa Oraibi Osage Osochi Otoe Ottawa Ouachita Ozette Paiute Pakana Paleoindian-Lithic Period Pallachacola (see Apalachicola) Palouse/Palus Panamint Papago Pascagoula Passamaquoddy Patarabueye Patiti Patuxent Patwin Pawnee Pawokti Pawtucket - See Pennacook Pecos Pedee Pend d’Oreille Pennacook Penobscot Pensacola Pentlatch Peoria Pepikokia Pequawket Pequot Peyu Picuris Piegan Pima Pinal Coyotero Piankashaw Piro Piscatawa/Conoy Pit River Plains Indians Pilthlako Pocomoke Pocomtuc Pohoy, Pooy, Posoy Pojoaque Pomo Ponca Potano Poosepatuck Potawatomi Powhatan Pshwanwapam Puebloan Puyllup Puntatsh Quahatika Quapaw Queets Quinaielt Quileute Quinault Quinipissa Rappahannock Raritan Rechgawawank Ree/Arikara Rouge River Sac/Sauk Sac and Fox Saconnet Sahehwamish Salinan Family Salish/Flathead Salishan Family Saluda Samish Sandia Sanpoil Santee/Dakota Santiam San Felipe San Ildefonso Santa Ana Santa Clara Saponi/Sappony Sarsi Satsop Saturiba Saturiwa Sahaptin Seminole Seneca Senijextee Serrano Sewee Shakori Shasta Shawnee Shoshone Shinnecock Shuswap Siletz Siksika Sinagua Sinsink Sinkiuse-Columbia Siouan Family Sioux Sissipahaw Siuslaw Skaddal Skagi Skidi Skilloot Snake Snohomish Snoqualime/Snoqualmie Soacatino Sobaipuri Souriquoi Spokan Squaxon Stehtsasamish Stillaquamish Stockbridge Suislaw Sugeree Suquamish Surruque Susquehannock/Conestoga Sutaio Swallah/Swalash Swinomish Sekani Semiahmoo Tacatacuru Tachi Taensa Taidnapam Taino/Arawak Takelma Tali Tallapoosa Taltushtuntude Tamaroa Tangipahoa Tanoan Family Tano Taos Taposa Tarratine Tatavium/Aliklik Tatlitkutchin Tatsanottine/Yellowknife Tawakoni Tawasa Tawehash Tenino Teja Tekesta, Tequesta Tekopa Tesuque Tewa Tiguex Tionontati Tillamook Timucuan Family Tioux Tiwa/Tigua Tlingit Tocobaga Tohome Tohono O’odham Tolowa Toltec Tompiro Tongva/Gabrieleno Towa Tonkawa Tsattine/Beaver Tschantoga Tsilkotin Tsimshian Tübatulabal Tukabahchee Tukkuthkutchin Tualatin/Atfaiati Tulalip Tunica Tunxis Tuscarora Tuskegee Tutchonekutchin Tutelo Tututni Twana Tyigh Ucita Umatilla Umpqua Unalachtigo Unami (see Ani-Stohini) Ute Utina Wabanaki Waccamaw Waco Wailaki Wahkiakum Wakashan Wakokai Walapai/Hualupai Walla Walla Walpi Wampanoag Wanapan Wappinger Wappo Warranawankong Wasco Washa Washoe Wateree Watlala Wauyukma Waxhaw Wenrohronon Wea Weanoc Weapemeoc Wiechquaeskeck Wenatchee/Yakama Whilkut Wichita Willapa Winefelly Winnebago/Ho-Chunk Wintu Wintun Winyaw Wippanap Wishram Wiwohka Wiyot/Wiyat Woccon Wyandot/Huron Wynoochee Yagenachito Yahi Yahooskin/Yahuskin Yakama Yakonan Family Yamasee Yamhill Yampa Yana Yankton/Nakota Yaqui Yaquina Yatasi Yavapai Yazoo Yellowknife/Tatsanottine Yodok Yojuane Yokut Family Yoncalla Yscanis Ysleta del Sur Yuchi Yufera Yui Yuki Yuma Yuman Family Yurok Yustaga Zia Zuni

[@cfalde]

What what? No estates speech. Is this actually Ludi? :p Yes I know native don't have estates at the start.

[@LudietHistoria]

a part of me died tbh Q_Q

[@zdeneek]

Finally north america native guide!

[@custos9209]

I kind of want to see what this blossoms into later xD

[@davidwilliams7552]

Why didn't you build a federation? You get to integrate all the members lands for free.

[@tobiasholm2717]

No horde tho

[@davidwilliams7552]

@@tobiasholm2717 ah OK that explains it perhaps then!

[@foxdavion6865]

Even though Totemist has been nerfed in the Origins Patch; Native Americans with the unique ideas and mission trees are still pretty OP in the early game (moral is a big factor in native warfare as this is pre-tech 3 wars) and you'll want to be constantly at war from start to finish to be strong enough to face the Europeans when they show up. The more wars, the more force projection and military tradition, combine that with strong mission trees and Totemist bonuses, depending on which tribe you pick, your tactics would be when facing the Europians would either be as follows: Become a Horde and just overrun them with horses. Or either go full massive defensive walls to get the AI to siege you, then you hammer + anvil them after getting native ideas. Or go full ambush focus with army movement speed and intercept the European forces when they are landing in small groups before they form their stacks. Basically, Native Americans are not weak anymore and the only major hurtle you have to deal with is disease and military tech disparity (this is only an issue if the Europeans arrive with cannons in their stacks, having lower mil tech just means the AI is more likely to constantly declare on you, even when it will lose, because it's aggression is based on tech and manpower; not on anything else which impacts the outcome of battles), so you need to prepare for those two events.

[@nickmickky2714]

Wtf do they always nerf natives? Like it still so much stronger to play as euro or even many Asian let American nations have perks

[@foxdavion6865]

@@nickmickky2714 Eh, the nerf was to two things and only two things: The Totemist Religion's Ancestors bonuses; Some of the stronger bonuses got halved in their strength for the ancestor variant, it was overpowered. The other thing that got nerfed effected all natives, it was the tribal development uptick, it was nerfed so the AI and players both can't passively build up massively overdeveloped mega provinces within 100 years, it was also broken. What was happening was Europian AI show up to get stomped by multiple 30K army stacks popping out of multiple 20 to 40 development provinces of native alliances before the disease debuff normally destroys all the AI controlled natives. The pip distribution on Native American culture group army units is the same as it's always been. The Dreamtime religion of the natives of Australia in EU4 is still OP and likely won't get nerfed ever; Primarily because it's only powerful in the hands of the player and like Coptic you must fulfil conditions to unlock it's full set of bonuses, which the A.I never does. The one religion which seems neglected, even with Origins is Fetishist, you can only have one bonus from it at a time, per lifetime of the leader OR 1 with a lesser version for the heir. OR via decision swap it every few years for stability loss. It feels weak compared to other "pagan" religions in the game now with all the changes.

[@naufalshahab8551]

I automaticly like the video i dont know why

[@alexingino5738]

Would love to see a full campaign of this.

[@starhaven1881]

That looks like fun. the problems for me is I tend to grow bored playing that way. Although it might be fun to practice and spring on a friend in multiplayer

[@BlueViper8907]

You had me at Aztec

[@sigma_fil1529]

This guide was unexpected

[@LudietHistoria]

hope you enjoy it

[@sigma_fil1529]

@@LudietHistoria sure! I've never played with totemists, i didn't know they are so overpowered

[@jamescollis7610]

So this is how one avoids the Trail of Tears

[@dobromirivanov7310]

Now I am thinking of WC / One faith with this nation. Anyway tho, I would love to see a full play through of this.

[@viky789]

I cant take the final government reform without feudalism. Did the dev change this?

[@89Crono]

Native Horde is broken, but so is Native republic. You can just speedrun through those aspects.

[@LudietHistoria]

Very true, there's so many exploits in the new world I didnt even know what to show first xD kept some for my azteks guide tbh

[@89Crono]

@@LudietHistoria It wouldn't be so bad if Native leader personalities weren't double the normal ones in some cases. +2 leader shock, yes please

[@marted7135]

Ah yes, my time has come , onto the cherokee we go.

[@KingofDrama1]

When you reform into horde then back into a monarchy or republic, your tech group becomes Chinese, which will allow you to form usa and other colonial nations as a totemist native

[@sokyu7723]

I know this is kinda old but they semi patched it. Gotta convert to a non native religion and only then will you get a non native tech group

[@KingofDrama1]

@@sokyu7723 yea i tried and they changed it to religion based now so if christian, hordes become eastern tech so if totemist, still stays native tech

[@adamp1701]

This is awesome thanks! My only problem is that all my rivals create massive blob-like federations, making it impossible for me to even trying to get into rival battles.

[@kazogai]

You can form Totemist Mongol Empire with a culture shift. It will just give nice blue colour and +%15 Institution Spread.

[@LudietHistoria]

very true!

[@yak601]

Gonna be my next campaign

[@davidwilliams7552]

I like to hire the free company as natives, manpower is low and it's cheaper than normal troops! Even going a bit over the forcelimit is OK.

[@maximumgames2990]

The personality traits are bugs but the indigenous horde thing is a feature

[@brandonlyon730]

Nice to natives are actually playable now.

[@LudietHistoria]

yup, big time!

[@NeoMicy]

You have take innovativ ides with the addition of -20% adviser cost you get money for advisors xD

[@FriendofOnas]

The random picture of the Seneca war chief Cornplanter wtf

[@Scott-fy4rz]

so like when is ludi doing catch up on his like goal guides

[@JorvikBerserkir]

Damn I forgot about the Assteks

[@redviper324]

Lol how many times did you savescum to get the perfect traits ?

[@EinarAI]

Waiting for the Aztec one

[@brunomonlevade769]

Because of your next video, here's an idea for an achievement. Crazy-ass-tech: As the Aztecs, have the highest all-around tech level (sum of all three techs) while having the highest unbalanced research modifier in the world.

[@amirhakim4059]

In the peace deal from a humiliate cb, (not humiliate rival cb) actually u can their money with no cost of the war scores.

[@KevinCurry]

Hail our new leader, oh wait you have 10% discipline, now kick the bucket so we get your great aspect!

[@ardawill]

Cuckhold master ludi strikes again with a week long wait for a new video :D

[@carlosvillamayorbeorlegui5858]

Nice video i loved it. Could you please do the same with the polynesian nations such as Tonga, Hawaii etc? Thank you

[@lucasserralta6477]

Should you have as many nations as possible in your federation? Is it possible to annex them later?

[@deval97]

Yes but you need to enable all 8 federation refroms which can take a while. you also need to be settled for the 8th reform which i think means you wont be able to form horde (as once you form horde youll lose the federation, but if you go settled you lose the ability to form horde)

[@15jorada]

Please do a follow up on this! I would myself but I don't want to pay for all of the dlcs

[@MrBrock314]

Get the humble bundle that Ludi has now. Basically free DLCs.

[@CharlieKellyEsq]

I love that disaster girl meme, it's so funny. I actually read about that girl and the context behind the photo. It sort of ruined it for me, so, if you enjoy the meme don't be curious.

[@LudietHistoria]

wait now i must know xD

[@CharlieKellyEsq]

@@LudietHistoria don't do it Ludi!!!! Ignorance is bliss

[@FoxyTheHiddenOne]

Man these federation blocks are unreal, me with my 10k stack and everyone around me minimum 30k. Anyone got any ideas how to get around this.

[@deval97]

yeah im having trouble with that too, so far i've just been picking on the smallest blocks i can find while building favours with allies to call them into the bigger one. I also started my own federation with 5 members and just unlocked offensive federation wars (automatically calls all fed members into war no matter what) which is super useful

[@AlphaZoa5]

Late reply but hope this helps. I rushed to get mil tech advantage. Tech 5 I think allows you to get new infantry that have 2 pips for morale offense. Combined with higher morale from tech and %buffs to can stack wipe. Also try to never ally someone in a federation block you want to attack.

[@GrafSchocola]

Did they fix Totemism in the meantime though? Couple months ago I was playing as the Aztecs and switched to Totemist. None of the leader spirits (or whatever they're called) worked. Just got a question mark and no modifier :/

[@LudietHistoria]

It works now!

[@grantwilson3980]

Please do a part 2!

[@kremitthefog3881]

Game was pretty broke before but I can't believe paradox went so drastic

[@L0wki]

Where is my Schnitzel and my Schnaps. Holy Stackenweipen.

[@willj586]

Fair warning. Reform Progress Growth modifier doesn't appear to be working as of 1.31.5 (unless my info isn't up to date

[@davidwilliams7552]

The tooltip is definitely wrong it can say you have over a hundred years to the next reform when it's actually more like 10-15.

[@kerim63000]

Nice!!!!

[@LudietHistoria]

Thank you!

[@lunacyvonklaus1024]

Hey ludi can you do a stream of the mod called third odyssey? I wanna see you play that one

[@LudietHistoria]

will consider it, never played it before

[@lunacyvonklaus1024]

@@LudietHistoria it's good i guess. Never played it too tho, but im watching a play through from 3 years ago

[@lunacyvonklaus1024]

@@LudietHistoria add it's in new world theme too so your vid is a very welcome addition

[@LudietHistoria]

@@lunacyvonklaus1024 sounds cool

[@icedogg111]

Sadly the mod is stuck in 1.29 land. You have to roll back if you are in 1.31, and even that is not enough (mod dev says clean install is the best). The mod is very cool though. As Byzantium you escape the wrath of kebabini and flee to the new world

[@quentin_pilote7063]

just tried over and over for hours. every time they have 5, 6 allies and i cant do anything

[@carhose8538]

just watching this video because I’m Mikmaq

[@kamilkarczmarczyk9445]

I have no idea what I've just watch :o

[@Owenmilan]

L’udienza can you do am Iroquois guide.

[@ogaucho6235]

Paradox makes tribes either unplayable or OP as hell. There's no in between

[@Rex-bl5ov]

"booyah let's attack yo"