miss theses times with the 2 stroke 250r banshees and lt 250. wish they could bring them back.
@Tehknein13 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how much faster the atvs have gotten. The reason they needed a separate track from the bike guys is because all but the 450R did not have the weight, power, and suspension to handle the track. So glad the sport has advanced enough that ATV and bike can share the same track and put down fairly close lap times. I could only imagine how deadly the best banshee or raptor would be on a supercross track after seeing how many of them were coming up short on their jumps. Crazy.
@aaronronnebaum54699 жыл бұрын
I think the ole Honda 250r could still win today against all the other 450r's.
@zachwilson86729 жыл бұрын
No doubt lol the right rider would destroy those four pokes
@donny-29646 жыл бұрын
Aaron Ronnebaum not a chance in hell u obviously haven’t ever ridden one
@ryanriel23296 жыл бұрын
@@donny-2964 lol you obviously are 12 and haven't ridden a 250r
@donny-29646 жыл бұрын
Ryan Riel you obviously haven’t ever ridden a real 450. And this is coming from a guy who has rid both and currently own a 450
@ryanriel23296 жыл бұрын
Sure bud
@jmfdizog13 жыл бұрын
This video proves why Banshees belong in the Dunes and why Raptors belong on the trails. Leave the MX racing to the 250Rs and R450s. The TRX250R wasn't voted "quad of the century" without good reason.
@SturmAKS74U13 жыл бұрын
Oh how I miss the 2 strokes. What a great sound and smell of race gas and oil mix burning.
@Rec-Star14 жыл бұрын
i wish there was a ton more of these videos, Iv watched all of them like 5 times.
@minibikemadman Жыл бұрын
88 trx 250r owner...and 250rs for life.
@49ltr45013 жыл бұрын
Its amazing to see the progress quads (or suspension) have made in less than 10 years...and i have to say that it is usually the rider that determines the outcome of a race, not the quad.
@rednotch9114 жыл бұрын
Cool video. It was like 250r,250r,250r, Banshee, 250r,250r lol
@AlecDPerformance14 жыл бұрын
I love how a Raptor 660 can race against 250r's and the 250 wins
@Yamaha38XCRacer11 жыл бұрын
Those were the days
@NECKsRED7COLLARsBLUE12 жыл бұрын
when quad racing was good and fun to watch
@mp777red11 жыл бұрын
why cant some organization bring back atv racing like this for supercross...i remember back in the day when ama race weekends were dirt bikes and atvs now as far as supercross stadium racing goes dirtbikes are the only ones getting any love or tv time..but they was still racing quads like this in canada like 3-4 years ago and i think this race was canada also
@Gtingboy7 жыл бұрын
awesome race, still great to watch today
@a.boss.__094 жыл бұрын
Best Races from back then Team Honda
@49ltr45013 жыл бұрын
That was just for the 2stroke/4stroke debates. i do agree w/ jmfdizog though that the 250rs and the newer 450s are much better suited for mx racing than banshees or rapters.
@HardEnduro83 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Love it 👍🏼
@lol22r15 жыл бұрын
supercross de montréal ! yeaah bon show les gars !
@chadsmith144 жыл бұрын
Did they run the 500 quadracers in this class, I saw the banshee so idk how the cc rules for these are
@kylebeach23164 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't know what the rule set was back then, then it today maybe they did maybe they didn't but I can still tell you one thing I would kill to have to a 86 250r race built and see if it can slay the new model 450s.
@chadsmith144 жыл бұрын
@@kylebeach2316 I can't remember the dude name. He has a youtube channel and raced hare scrambles w a r, it was like a 340 or 360 something but he has alot of vids of his starts and he would get badass holeshots almost like he was playing w them. I'm sure a built 250 is right there w a 450, you can make them alot faster but not sure if it takes boring or not. Those things are so rare around home idk exactly how fast one is now I haven't seen one in so long. I used to race bikes and I had a 96 cr 125 that had all kinda shit done to it. Crank rod work, little bit of cylinder work.caarbon fiber reeds pipe, all kinda shit, was done by dude I bought it from and when the 426 Yamahas first come out they just were faster than me on straitaways up until about 5th then they pulled away a little so a power valve 250 cc should be close.
@steve0693 жыл бұрын
There was at least one LT250R in this race, but I doubt any sane person would try to race a Zilla in a small SX course like this as it would be a bull in a China shop. Very surprised they even allowed Banshees to compete as they were way too big to do anything but get the hole shot and then DNF. I did see a yellow 400EX, but this race was dominated by the 250R's.
@chadsmith143 жыл бұрын
@@steve069 I had a 400ex that was a ⁴¹⁶ w hi comp piston, head work, race cam, jet kit , pipe and it would hang right beside my buddies yfz ⁴5⁰ thru third then he would ease on ahead of me but that air cooled motor went thru more heat and wear and tear w that engine work. It was really turned that quad into hi maintenance and on a tight track it still wasn't anything for a ²⁵⁰ r. I wonder if ama would still have the cc rules printed for the races back then somewhere.
@jojofleenor9 жыл бұрын
Looking at tracks then to now... Wow that looks like one rough ride lol and its all low speed and jumps are way to small to make smooth landings lol
@rustyATV14 жыл бұрын
Lol! Love the attempted "French-Canadianization" of Laeger at 0:12!
@MegaMotorsports14 жыл бұрын
my favorite time where two strokes ruled
@pbpaulieb14 жыл бұрын
Ah the days when you only needed to be a good rider to race- not have to be backed by a multi million dollar company.
@marchondaracing15 жыл бұрын
Jasmin Plante is always the best in Quebec
@maranelloo1814 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the banshee!
@dirkdiggler37608 жыл бұрын
Wide Open Throttle Garage you must be a youngster who dont kw shit.
haha ya i read that, i think they said something about the 450 is eisear to control turn
@rockinbass0114 жыл бұрын
if only it were still like that.. The smell in the air the slight smokey mist and the sound of 2 strokes running as fast as they can. Now we have lazy riders who want "bottem end and tourqe and predictable power" WTF! That banshee out fronts kick ass. I love banshees real men race them because they are infact harder to ride long travel banshees especially ones in a diff frame make me smile
@MrMiguelverduzco4 жыл бұрын
No tecate 4 ???😭
@cbr600rrturbo5 жыл бұрын
Glad I 250r & banshee
@tiguy22512 жыл бұрын
a raptor is just not made for mx racing, this is why they have the yfz instead
@billrudolph81855 жыл бұрын
Go figure, the banshee had a quad length on all the 250r's at the end of the straight.🤘😎
@slypto4 жыл бұрын
my thoughts too
@steve0693 жыл бұрын
Then the banshee(s) had to turn, jump & handle to compete, which is why the race results were what they were. Banshees are great in the dunes though.
@crjanow11 жыл бұрын
there wasn't a yfz at that time
@jackmoyer74375 жыл бұрын
Banshee held it for quite a bit
@SugarMapleForge11 жыл бұрын
That was awesome haha
@250honda12 жыл бұрын
which one sounds nicer is an opinion. more problems? thats 4strokes. fact.
@r3dph0n313 жыл бұрын
wait wait wait hold the phone I thought the Banshee was build for the dunes and such Why is it on a super cross track????
@rustyATV7 жыл бұрын
Plenty of people raced Banshees back in the day, since it was easier to buy one new up to 2002 than tracking down a beat up 250R that was out of production and beat up. You could also get a Laeger Protrax chassis that mounted the banshee motor, radiator, and plastics, but had the same suspension as the Protrax for the 250R.
@steve0693 жыл бұрын
@@rustyATV The "beat up 250R's" what a comment. Check and see who won the race, Your Banshees all DNF'd. Banshees are for the dunes, the end.
@slypto4 жыл бұрын
omg a banshee
@jsmarch5212 жыл бұрын
dont call me surely
@AIRFOOLERSDOTCOM15 жыл бұрын
before who was born? Surely you don't mean me?
@andrewcarder92677 жыл бұрын
banshee with the hole shot
@slb357914 жыл бұрын
@HappyFilmer i have an 88 trx250r with a stitty fmf pipe i can can mow in my buddys 660 raptor , 4 stroke will NEVER make more power than a 2 stroke thats a proven fact!
@dirtbikemaniac1613 жыл бұрын
LT250R @1:33 :)
@playyamxz55014 жыл бұрын
the new 450 races is so much faster then this
@mx5klein12 жыл бұрын
Let's go 400ex at 1:36
@jasonneal5 жыл бұрын
Is it me or does anyone else hear this farting noise in the background ?
@anthonyolsen92995 жыл бұрын
If you watch close..their was a glimpse of a 400 four stroke honda
@kylexps15 жыл бұрын
probably before you where born
@MariusVerbavicius12 жыл бұрын
2 stroke has more problem than 4. And 4 sounds nicer.
@dirkdiggler37608 жыл бұрын
Marius Verbavicius your stupid as fuck
@skoobyrdips22197 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally? Less moving parts mean it junk?
@johnparker89017 жыл бұрын
Marius Verbavicius you're. if you're going to call someone stupid at least get it right.