3 years after this was filmed this video is still extremely relevant. The JL's have now been on the market for 2+ years and the Gladiator has even hit showrooms in the last few months. What makes this relevant possibly even moreso now, is that many of us are used Jeep buyers, and to trying to find solid information and candid commentary (likes and dislikes) on Trim levels in jeeps from 3 Plus years ago is next to impossible. Way to film a show with real legs, guys! Keep it up. I'm always up for watching a TFL video I've never seen whether its old or new!
@TheLegendaryLP Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2015 Jeep wrangler Willy’s edition and I absolutely love it!
@eastonhirsh40888 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a jeep focused channel, I love these types of videos, would like to see more of them
@MRSTEEL158 жыл бұрын
Easton Hirsh This video really helped me...I plan on buying in two weeks....I'm new to Truck world
@billygoat83777 жыл бұрын
007mrmrbig same here im lookin at a 09 in the next couple days im also new to the jeep world my gfs dad got me in to it
@MRSTEEL157 жыл бұрын
billy bob Check out American Custom Jeeps in Houston....I'm buying the Rapture style.....Sick!!
@fulano7873 жыл бұрын
Bought a new 2012 Sahara unlimited altitude. Now has 190k. Runs like a champ! Super reliable!!
@bettersteps7 жыл бұрын
About a year ago I started to watch Jeep videos. Soon after that I fell in love with Jeeps. This is the best Jeep video I've watched. I love it. Great job gentlemen.
@JasmineGeminiDragon8 жыл бұрын
I am a 2-door fan too!
@ericimi8 жыл бұрын
two doors are the way they were meant to be designed . The Four door was designed solely to appeal to people with family's so they would be more tempted to use one as a daily driver .
@trapperkeeper62025 жыл бұрын
Everybody tells me why didnt i buy4 door, love my 2 dr forever
@Summerfan695 жыл бұрын
I think if you are single or just you & your partner easy roll the back seat & enough space so 2 door rocks But if you got family let's say 2 or 3 kids...no doubts 4 doors!!!
@hollywood216395 жыл бұрын
I will never own a 4 door vehicle. 2 doors for life.
@musomimukama33084 жыл бұрын
@@hollywood21639 😅😅why
@Earlywinters0911 ай бұрын
7 years after this was filmed this video is still relevant.. I have a 2016 Willy's Wheeler, and your analysis is spot on. I've covered a lot of territory in the back country with it, and have never been disappointed. Perfect compromise between the Sport and the Rubicon. Thanks!
@davidzavala3378 жыл бұрын
I just sold my 2 door 2012 jk. I really like it and in 3 years all buy one again. here's what I learned on what to get. 1.) 2 door. even though I sold mine because my family grew and the reason was the car seats and stroller was a pain with my first kid and now she's 3 and one on the way I had to get rid of them and I bougth 2 brand new Hyundais. once my kids get to the age of just needing a booster is 2 door again, they are young, they won't have any issues in the back, plus, it's the classic looks plus cheaper, looks better with doors off. 2.) manual doors. the one I had came with power everything, but after so many times taking the doors off the plug finally gave in. plus with out the door and top off everything becomes useless. no rear wiper, Windows and mirrors. plus it's cheaper. being a 2 door i can easily reach the other door and roll it down. 3.) soft top. I had the hard and in the 4 years that I had it I only took it 2 times. it's so awkward to take by yourself and my wife could not help. plus all of my buddies live way too far to give a hand. also my house it's very small and that hard top will take a lot of space. on top of that I live in Socal, so the cold and extreme heat are not an issue. I already pay a premium for loving here in San Diego. 4.) manual?. I had the auto and it's was great,but I'm still not sure if to get the manual. I'm not very good with it plus it will be my DD in bumper to bumper for 2 hours a day. I'm 50/50. 5.) Sport or Rubicon? I had the sport s with basic gear and 33s. power was nice and never had and issue. I wanted the 35s but it was too late. I will really like to build a monster, but I would also like a side by side or and ATV, so money is an issue. The rubicon I know it would be more than I need and I can just trow 35s and a lift. with my sport I want to all places, mud, sand, rocks, dirt and all you need is a good set of tires. lockers would help, so in here I'm also 50/50. but what ever I get this would be my lifetime car. I don't want to sell it ever. I do get attached to things and I want to build a relationship with my next jeep.
@mitchkolbuck44627 жыл бұрын
David Zavala I have a 2016 Rubicon 2 door ...manual transmission. I appreciate your comments and I completely agree with your good advice.
@samjohnson98945 жыл бұрын
3 years later, $20k in price increase since then... ...guess you'll own another in another 3 years. lol 80 series TLC for the win. OH AND...a manual tranny off road is STOOPID!
@TheMrNeffels5 жыл бұрын
so its 3 years later. Get a jeep?
@MaynardFreek4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrNeffels naw wife won't let him
@eightballsidepocket8 жыл бұрын
I wholly endorse every comment made in this video. I will say that on the trail, the manual is highly gratifying because you are so involved. Let's face it, in the modern world, we don't drive on a dirt road or go camping because it's easier than our daily life. The challenge and triumph is invigorating.
@tjc208 жыл бұрын
Obviously, your budget will make up your mind for you here. Some people cannot afford a Rubicon right out of the showroom, so they opt for Sport models. The great thing about Jeeps is that people make them unique, in whatever trim they purchased them in. If you can't afford a Rubicon you can build a Jeep, that is just as capable, over time! I've seen Sport/Sahara model owners who added aftermarket axles, air lockers, and coil-over suspensions that would outshine any stock Rubicon. Personally, I have the '14 JK Rubicon X (same as the Hard Rock trim). Even still, I have modded this thing out immensely & I love checking out other people's builds. :)
@hershey426968 жыл бұрын
Tj C totally agree. I got my hard rock in march. I thought I wouldn't need to do much to it but there's so many possibilities and options out there that I'm constantly buying something to put on it
@tjc208 жыл бұрын
Hershel Patel I'm the same way. I've got the 3" Teraflex ST/3 with FOX reservoir shocks, 35" BF Goodrich KO2S, JW Speaker head/tail/fog lights, AFe Exhaust, K&N filter, Kicker speakers throughout, Teraflex tire carrier, Hi-Lift mounted on the back, Superchips Traildash 2... and it's still a work in progress. Lol 👍🏽
@hershey426968 жыл бұрын
Tj C which aFe exhaust? I have the rebel center exhaust
@tjc208 жыл бұрын
Hershel Patel I have the aFe MACH Force XP 3" Hi-tuck exhaust. It sounds great, but I liked the American Thunder exhaust by Flowmaster a bit better (I damaged my Flowmaster and replaced it with the aFe). It was lighter weight and sounded a little better, IMO.
@1guyin108 жыл бұрын
They apparently plan to overlap production of the old and new Wranglers for a period of time. You might get a good buy if you wait until the new Wrangler starts production and grab one of the old designs. I'm with Nathan on the Willys W package. It offers the most bang for your buck. It isn't a Rubicon, but you get a lot of capability for your money.
@MultiPurposeReviewer8 жыл бұрын
With those options, I would argue: 1. You don't need power windows. 2. You don't need power locks. 3. You don't need Bluetooth. 4. You don't need premium sound. 5. You don't need leather.
@flushiez7 жыл бұрын
MultiPurposeReviewer what about heated leather?
@txgamer13477 жыл бұрын
+Chuck McCracken I sure as hell dont need that in central Texas lol
@yamahschector6 жыл бұрын
TxGamer13 in Colorado it sure is nice in all of our cars.
@drrider1006 жыл бұрын
Power locks and power windows have been stock in vehicles for decades. How does jeep still not make this stock? Rip off
@discoversunshine6 жыл бұрын
drrider100 you can still buy vehicles without them.
@planetxmetal5 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend and I play a game called 2 door/4 door. I was telling her one day the 4 doors dominate sales, so now whenever we're driving we try to spot as many as we can (only rule is dealerships don't count). It started as just JKs but now I give her CJs, YJs, and TJs. In almost a year she's never beaten me.
@mixflip8 жыл бұрын
Great video. I drove my mom & dads 2 Cherokees back in the 90s. Then bought my own CJ7 in Hawaii. My wife had a Cherokee in her family. I miss having a Jeep. I would buy a current Rubicon today but they are just too damn expensive for me.
@stevm79747 жыл бұрын
mixflip maybe if you're a little bitch that doesn't have the sack to save up for one...
@sherryb97707 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I had wanted a JKU forever so when it became time for a vehicle replacement, I bought a low mileage 2013 Sport S and I’m in the process of slowly upgrading. It can be done. Check out the TerraFlex KZbin channel.
@mj-kd9uz5 жыл бұрын
Stev M sometimes people have bills and other places the money has to go to and can’t afford to even put that much money back.
@WhatTrigger3 жыл бұрын
@@mj-kd9uz or exchange rates, the Rubicon in Australia goes around the 74-79k mark
@tabachtell7 жыл бұрын
I just bought the 2017 Black Big Bear plus the trak lock rear. It was between that the the Willy's W. My wife carried the final vote. I love it.
@KrisMorrison8 жыл бұрын
As someone who had a 2 door with a soft top, it's not hard to fit a lot in the 2 door. I'm taken, have 3 kids (large furry 4 legged kind), and it worked great for the 3yrs I had it! I miss it more and more every day since I sold it....
@KrisMorrison8 жыл бұрын
Also I miss my manual locks and windows
@matthewspaulding6208 жыл бұрын
Wow! You guys did a great job of breaking down the confusion that is Jeep Wrangler. Many thanks!
@SergioLopez-tq6wq4 жыл бұрын
just got a 2016 2 door Willys with 20k miles. The buying process was painful (no surprise) But I want to keep the vehicle forever
@michaelnares12178 жыл бұрын
I never do comments on any sights, but I have to take the time (I don't Type) to tell you, I watch all your shows and this Jeep episode was the most comprehensive and enjoyable I've had the pleasure of watching. Great Job!!!
@xzysyndrome4 жыл бұрын
Just brought a Rubicon home after 10 years in a Nissan Xterra. So stoked for this weekend....
@jeffreyadams49528 жыл бұрын
Great video guys I live in Toledo and built these babies for 34 years at the old and new Jeep plants. Finally can see my way clear to get into one and your guide has really helped focus the decision making process, looking forward to being part of the community.
@sunychemdoc8 жыл бұрын
I have a 1995 YJ sport - 2.5L 4 cyl - 5 speed M/T, manual steering, 130+K miles - still going. I also have a 2014 JKU - half doors, soft top, 6 spd manual, 69k miles (120 mile commute daily). I did swap the 3.21's for 3.73's - just about necessary for manual trans because the Pentastar does not make enough torque at low RPM. I prefer the M/T's in both my Wranglers - I always have the gear I want. I don't mind the wind noise, and I do like pulling the half door uppers out in the summer. I still enjoy both Jeeps.
@shavedscruffy8 жыл бұрын
I really wanted a 2 door but ended up with the 4 door rubi. Not as nimble off road, but I do enjoy the extra space for people and/or gear on extended camping trips.
@redhorse74588 жыл бұрын
I had an 08 JK and it was fine with the glaring exception of the fact that it burned oil like crazy. It would literally burn 3 quarts of oil every 5000 miles and the vehicle had less than 25K miles on it. Turns out oil consumption was very common with that 3.8 V6. Apparently the workers at the engine assembly plant never heard of the simple concept of staggering the piston rings during engine assembly. Typical Chrysler product.
@novaman35098 жыл бұрын
Red Horse Hey. Hey you. Yea, you. Fuck off.
@jtnord8 жыл бұрын
Triggered
@joshdoesathing8 жыл бұрын
Why? He is right, the 3.7 and 3.8 v6 engines were absolute garbage and they were garbage for a very long time.
@redhorse74588 жыл бұрын
Oh look, NovaMan is a clueless Chrysler fan boy. lol It's not my fault the motors burned oil. It's a common problem with the 3.8 V6. Do some research and find out. Crap like that is why Chrysler products consistently stay at the bottom of the reliability lists. I don't know if the new Pentastar V6 is any better but I know for a fact the old 3.8 V6 burned oil like there was no tomorrow. Crappy Chrysler quality control as usual. Deal with it.
@joshdoesathing8 жыл бұрын
Honestly. The 3.7 burned oil, too. They would be better off modernizing the 4.0, due to it's famous reliability and longevity. The 3.6 Pentastar at least competes power-wise now, which the 3.7 and 3.8 did not.
@WBOS725 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 16 JKU Sahara, has heated cloth seats - I love them. Mine has the black hard top, glad it is not painted. Great video guys.
@catfishmudflap8 жыл бұрын
My 2016 Willys looks just like the one you show at 12:45... two half doors, soft top and same color too.
@NuclearGrizzly8 жыл бұрын
'06 Rubicon. Hard to beat that straight 6.
@Mills1178 жыл бұрын
Got the straight 6 in my 99 xj
@NuclearGrizzly8 жыл бұрын
Mills117 My '06 went 315K hard miles before the tranny and rear end finally gave out. The engine was still purring along. A little zinc additive to the oil and they run forever.
@mosslager8 жыл бұрын
I searched for a clean, unmolested LJ Rubicon and they kept slipping between my fingers and the prices...at least in Southern California started running up to the mid 20's for a 10 year old Jeep. I really didn't want a Jeep with the 3.8 engine so made the jump to 2012 and newer Rubicon's. I scored a 2014 Rubi and I love it but every time I see a clean 04-06 LJ Rubicon I smile...love those Jeeps. That 4.0 engine is like a cockroach...you can't kill it.
@NuclearGrizzly8 жыл бұрын
mosslager I've seen several '05-'06 Rubicon's sell for around their original selling price. It seems that a lot of others agree.
@22thefoxracer8 жыл бұрын
mosslager I have an 05 rubi dude selling it for 14k it has 94k miles
@sickjohnson8 жыл бұрын
4 door with the longer wheel base can climb over taller obstacles. Auto for sure, full acceleration to top speed gives you far more control, and is a huge advantage in the mud and snow.
@ed09855877 жыл бұрын
I've owned two JKUs ('12 and a '14) and this time around I bought a 2 door ('15 Willys). I have a Toyota Tundra as my other vehicle so I finally alleviated the need for the extra space the JKU has to offer. Both are awesome and better for certain situations, but regardless, they're both jeeps and one awesome ride!!
@MultiPurposeReviewer8 жыл бұрын
My solution, which I intend to pursue, is a TJ Rubicon. You get all the stuff you need, none of the pamper stuff you really don't, all in a more compact package, and for less than $15K.
@nevileasterling6488 жыл бұрын
What about a Sahara TJ? Is it more of an appearance package like with the JK?
@MultiPurposeReviewer8 жыл бұрын
Nevil Easterling The TJ trims of Rubicon and Sahara are the same idea as the ones with the JK (although I'd argue that the TJ Sahara is more worth it than the JK Sahara). The TJ Sahara was indeed more of an appearance package, with nice leather, body decals, special wheels, etc. The TJ Rubicon came with most of the Sahara's features, but also Dana 44s front and back, locking differentials front and back, and higher axle ratios.
@sumdumguy71974 жыл бұрын
JK 2 door sport s, 3.6 5 spd automatic with auto stick 2018 2.5 lift 35" tires and 3.73 gear ratio, I'm happy, ac, power doors, windows, mirrors, auto darkening center mirror, has some downhill low 4×4 thing I've never used
@josave85633 жыл бұрын
Diesel with a manual transmission. Probably not offered, but still an interest of mine.
@Mardasee7 жыл бұрын
I had a 1988 jeep wrangler with a soft top. Use to take it up to maine from massachusetts. Sometimes while driving on the highway that soft top was loud sounding as the roof flapped away. It was cold too inside the cab when temperatures got low but a jacket and hat was the solution. Seldom did I remove the soft top and so if I ever buy another jeep I'm buying a hard top.
@pasnbyu526 жыл бұрын
Picked up a 2018 JKU, 7800 miles on it for $37k.....love it so far.
@sergiomercado26925 жыл бұрын
I got mine new for 33k?
@kb49426 жыл бұрын
Great video! I am looking to purchase a Jeep next year, and I thought I wanted a Rubicon. I will not be doing any off road adventures, strictly city girl. However, I absolutely Love the Jeep, and after watching your video, I may be able to save myself a ton of $$$. Thanks so much for this very informative video, can't wait till next year!!!
@mj-kd9uz5 жыл бұрын
did you get your jeep? another city girl here hoping to buy a jeep unlimited in the near future 😂🙋♀️
@davidtallent42307 жыл бұрын
The wranglers are the one most customizable vehicles built. From soccer moms and mail carriers to overland expedition vehicles its a topic you guys left out. Once you own a JK or JKU you can tailor it to fit your specific lifestyle. There are so many aftermarket options it's insane. Our club has a surgeon we helped him transform new hard rock to a mobile hospital/rescue vehicle for Dr's without borders, one the vehicle was complete it was truly impressive featuring a rear annex with exam table dual front winches, water tanks etc. all the items were available after market the only thing that was custom made was the front bumper. If you guys make another video you might want to mention aftermarket options that can truly make your JK a unique vehicle.
@giovaniarroyo91226 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy a rubicon cause everyone said that’s the best but I don’t plan on going completely of the grid I’m glad I saw this prior to buying!
@downingbethune87588 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the video. Much appreciate the information and the different points of view. I planned on driving my 2007 2-door X until the wheels fell off but unfortunately it was stolen. I traded in what was left of it on a 2017 2-door Willys w/ auto trans, LED lights, premium soft top and an EVTS. I'll take it to Car Toys for a car alarm and locking lug nuts as well as replace the speakers. No power windows/locks for me. I can roll up/down my windows myself to save $2K. No A/C either. Just doesn't get hot enough in the Pacific NW. I had A/C in my X and never used it. I'll pull out the useless backseat for more cargo area. Had to have the Rubi shocks and 3.73 gear ratio as well as the Bluetooth. Surprised you didn't warn folks away from the ridiculously overpriced $500 tow package when you can get the same thing for $80 online. Can't wait for the Willys to arrive! Keep up the good work. Oh, got the auto trans because it will be my daily driver and my dog insists that I keep one hand on him at all times so it's kind of a safety feature.
@GreenT108 жыл бұрын
i ordered a 2 door willy's W and im picking it up on the 23rd this month i cant wait!!!
@C8Z51Scott7 жыл бұрын
My wife got the 2017 Winter Edition with a manual transmission and loves hers.
@mitchellhott Жыл бұрын
Just got our 2016 willys wheeler at 40,000 miles and the power steering pump is already going out got it on Thursday gotta wait til Tuesday to take it in for repair because Memorial Day but we got the jeep to enjoy Memorial Day lol
@remideschenes38677 жыл бұрын
just bought a 2-door willys this week, i'm pretty satisfied with what i just heard... i'm reconsidering the hard top and led lights though..
@hunteronnen50008 жыл бұрын
i like manual windows over electric windows.
@donknoles31424 жыл бұрын
A lot of people like the 2 door version, but I prefer the 4 door version. Lots of arguments for each. But it seems like when you go taller with lifts/tires on the 2 door, you have to stretch them out a bit so they handle better on the trail not wanting to be tipsy. I don't normally have extra passengers, so I don't really need the back seats. To me the ideal jeep would be somewhere between the 2 door and 4 door.
@PatT-cu7vu5 жыл бұрын
How the heck is AC not standard its 2019 not 1970!
@SourGrey5 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@hollywood216394 жыл бұрын
Some people don't want it. I know people who never use it.
@Canadianbacon-s9n4 жыл бұрын
@@hollywood21639 idiots
@hollywood216394 жыл бұрын
@@Canadianbacon-s9n I mostly agree especially since it will kill resale value.
@easycheddy8 жыл бұрын
Please make a turbo diesel wrangler
@stonemarten14008 жыл бұрын
We can get a 2.8lt common rail diesel for the Wrangler here in the UK, but I went for the pentastar V6 for my Rubicon, as the diesel is a bit of an agricultural dog and significantly slower 0-60. The green lobby is also turning against diesel because of it's higher local pollution emissions. Be careful what you wish for!
@exidous68318 жыл бұрын
They do make one. In Europe they get the 2.8 CRD Turbo, bigger front brakes and a higher towing capacity. I think it's really only the NA market that doesn't have it. The UK and Aus have the 2.8 as well.
@1guyin108 жыл бұрын
The JL may finally offer a diesel Wrangler for North America. It will probably be a year or two after launch before it shows up though.
@khalid7497 жыл бұрын
We don't get a diesel or V8 wrangler is US because of US safety standards. Diesels and V8s are heavier and therefore would be more likely to penetrate the firewall or other critical structures in frontal collisions potentially increasing the risk of severe lower extremity damage. This is info I received from a Jeep manufacturer when I inquired with the question. I personally think its long overdue and a turbo 6 or turbo diesel wrangler would be absolutely amazing.
@slipshot405 жыл бұрын
I bought a 17 rubicon recon 2dr, love it, wish i had ordered 4:10 gears.. just rolled 3,000 miles on it and i love a manual shift but i got the auto... still love it
@reneorta46406 жыл бұрын
I'm going to Colorado in July I would really like the shake you guys hand because it's been giving me some good information through the years and you guys are appreciated but you know that don't you.
@anthonystansbury37272 жыл бұрын
Big fan of the 2dr wrangler , Jeep comp videos are great . Looking to buy new/used first Jeep any suggestions?
@ElegantPotatoes8 жыл бұрын
Jeep is asking wayyyyy too much for their Wranglers.
@evolicious-x7 жыл бұрын
Spence Walton yeah overpriced even used. glad i bought mine for 4k. an unlimited. i wasnt going to bother buying a wrangler at all but i couldnt pass up the price
@marcberard73826 жыл бұрын
Better value and better looking than a Merc Gwagon
@stevecoleman80025 жыл бұрын
I still want one.
@jayhillz37055 жыл бұрын
Bought my 2001 tj for $5,800
@SuccessMMA5 жыл бұрын
@@stevecoleman8002 I have owned 2 2005 TJ & 2017 JK LOVE 'EM
@BrettReynolds557 жыл бұрын
you get hill decent in the manual too...4 low second gear.
@GirlArmy215 жыл бұрын
I would have loved the 4 door, but way out of my budget/range. I just bought a 2 door Sahara 2015. I will start with this one and trade up later.
@dominicracca69558 жыл бұрын
I got the 2016 Sahara with a manual trans. I am not planning on any heavy off-roading with this Jeep and I liked the look of the painted fenders. You get special seats with bright stitching and Sahara embroidered into the backs of the front seats. It does not come standard with the painted top, that is an extra 2K!! Also the 2016s with the Alpine speaker group now get flush mounted tweeters (over the tombstone pods on the dash) and the sub is in the floor in the back not taking up cargo room on the side. All and all I like the manual trans but I did notice they don't shift smooth. You can feel the syncros step into place very noticeably. I tried out a couple different manuals and they all felt the same. And YES way long throw, but then again this isn't a Camaro!
@radelarosa975 жыл бұрын
I can relate brother “I’m single and going to college”
@quikstang27 жыл бұрын
I got a 2015 Sport 2-door 3.73 with hard top, speakers, towing, a/c and tinted window options. If I had to do it all over again, I'd drop the a/c. Only thing I was bummed about was no tan interior option on my trim level. I think the extra gauge info and power inverter also required all the other extra electrics, which I didn't want at all.
@samjohnson98945 жыл бұрын
Love watching ya'll trying to make sense of it all. Even if it was 3 years ago.
@Dhime8 жыл бұрын
Recently took delivery of a Rubicon Hardrock and this video is just about spot on. I will add, if you're looking at upgrading to the 430N Uconnect system, don't. $1200 for the upgrade and it's an ancient touch system with a poor quality display (feels very 2005). I want to say it's like 240x360 pixels lol and a single disc CD player. Not to mention incompatibility with the Apple family of mobile devices (lag and skipping while bluetooth streaming). Another savings tip, if you're looking to upgrade your jeep with armor etc, you're probably better off staying away from the hardrock, it only gets the dome hood the front and rear bumpers and some quality of life additions I think you can just add on to a Rubicon build. Use that money saved on that trash deck and get you something top of the line that will cook you breakfast for that price... I would be surprised if they pay more than $100 to actually produce the Uconnect 430N. It's that bad.
@hershey426968 жыл бұрын
Dhime I have a hard rock and agree on the 430n. Avoid it, and put in an alpine aftermarket unit. Lags, glitches, slow processing. Reminds me of windows 98
@Texanminecrafter298 жыл бұрын
My son who is 13 can drive a manual. He jumped in my truck and drove off so easy and way more fun to drive
@djmallinson7 жыл бұрын
Love what you guys do!!! Thank you for all your hard work!!! I did have a 2010 Sahara Unlimited with everything on it but... I got the "HOT OIL" message somewhere between Idaho Springs and Central City and Jeep didn't want to pay for the extra transmission oil cooler so I switched to a Grand Cherokee... waiting to see what the 2018 will bring
@guyfox12066 жыл бұрын
I got the Willy's, i spend a lot of time in the mud and limited sip is a awesome upgrade for that it also came with mud grips stock. I get what he means about the painted wheels but when i scratch them up i just mask off and paint the area gloss black again, works for me.
@bruceforster37093 жыл бұрын
I'm 66, my wife is 56. Its just the two of us and our Dog. I Volunteer as a Disaster Response Coordinator for the 7th-Day Adventist Church in our Community. I'm thinking because we DON'T have kids, that I would go with a 2-door as a daily driver, and the occasional logging road explorer on weekends. I would go for the hardtop, and I would spend the money on the Heavy-Duty Alternator for Lights, and my Ham Radio setup.
@michelleluna42788 жыл бұрын
Great video guys!! I have a hard rock unlimited. Navigation system sux... no real time traffic and hate having to be stopped to enter in a destination. I get it's for safety and can override that but still. Happy I got the roof liner, 4.10 and max tow package. Love both tops and went with the black fenders and roof... it's a jeep not a hummer! Wish I would have gotten the winch installed by the dealer... will eventually lift it a bit and get slightly bigger tires.
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
How many times has the Jeep brand changed hands?
@eastonhirsh40888 жыл бұрын
More than I can count
@jamesbeaman63378 жыл бұрын
Looks like it went something like this: Willys - 1945 Willys-Overland - 1950 Kaiser Motors - 1953 Kaiser-Jeep - 1963 AMC -1970 Chrysler - 1987 Daimler Chrysler - 1998 FCA - 2014
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
James Beaman Wow
@redhorse74588 жыл бұрын
You forgot about Cerberus Investment Group James.
@guyproulx16608 жыл бұрын
Red Horse so it looks like it changed ownership 9 times, i wonder why they would change hands so many times, is it because of the fact that they have had a bad reputation for decades in reliability ratings or because they always had financial problems?
@BillOnVideo8 жыл бұрын
2015 Willys Wheeler: 2-door, manual, soft top and no other options. Everything you need and nothing you don't.
@mitchkolbuck44627 жыл бұрын
BillOnVideo exactly!
@breeze7878 жыл бұрын
I'll keep my 2014 Toyota FJ Cruiser. But thanks for the in-depth discussion about Jeep Wrangler models. Recently I've been binging on Fast Land Cars getting the low on sedans in general and this is probably the quickest way to get up to speed. Your opinions are noted. Thanks!
@bates67136 жыл бұрын
I would go for no power locks and windows, because I think the frequency of intended door removal would wear on the plug ins rather quickly for me
@HBGEB2 жыл бұрын
Tommy, y’all have come a long way 😁. You sound a little like Bobby Boucher. Luv y’all work
@pilotguy11418 жыл бұрын
the easiest way to say this is 2007 through 2011 Jeeps are underpowered and the engine is a piece of junk. if you're going to buy one buy a 2012 or newer withe the penastar engine
@chadharmon57168 жыл бұрын
Aviator Guy absolutely
@wcjeep8 жыл бұрын
Aviator Guy didn't the 2012+ also have a better transmission?
@pilotguy11418 жыл бұрын
wcjeep i think so I could be wrong. I am still a CJ TJ jeep guy
@alexmarinescu28738 жыл бұрын
in Europe the 2.8 diesel its very nice
@nevileasterling6488 жыл бұрын
Better yet, get a YJ or TJ with the 4.0, those are REAL jeeps.
@ryeann25675 жыл бұрын
Soft top is pretty sweet. I agree with the wind noise aspect, but otherwise, vehicle gets warm quick, I've lived in Ohio and Oregon with it... Comfy once warm just like any car, and no leaks, even in 6+ months of Oregon rain. Can't beat the ease of dropping the top when the sun is out either.
@sonnyd.46617 жыл бұрын
Great video. But I'd like to know your thoughts on half doors vs. full doors.
@March19666 жыл бұрын
I have a Willy’s 2 door. No power stuff. I look at that at more things going wrong. Easy rolling down passenger window in a 2 door. Other plus of auto with LS is you can manage the brake and gas simultaneously and get your axle to work close to a locked axle. Just my opinion. 3.73s are fine for 35s, just my opinion. Agree with most stuff in video.
@LlyleHunter8 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that Tommy's in college!
@jtnord8 жыл бұрын
Excited to see what Jeep does with the new gen in 2018
@giox83574 жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 sahara jk. Definitely the "luxury" jeep. Great thing about jeeps is you can modify them to what ever you want! Mine looks nothing like it did stock
@Feintgames8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how many Jeep Wranglers there are here in Illinois. I'd bet less than 1% of owners are taking them offroad, even onto gravel roads. And they handle terribly on-road. And for the price, you could get a 4Runner which is far superior on-road and superior in terms of reliability and general quality of build and materials and is still a body on frame, off-road capable-ish vehicle (depending on the model). Image really is everything.
@jakeflanary60258 жыл бұрын
Tiki torches still better than jeep stock headlights
@cortezcortez51778 жыл бұрын
Totaled my 2000 Sahara about a month ago and it was mint. Great vehicle..so I'm looking again.
@stonemarten14008 жыл бұрын
I've got a 1998 Sahara TJ for sale - lovely Jeep Green with a Tan Roof; only problem - you'll have to come to Scotland and the steering wheel is on the right! Good luck in your quest.
@greygoose4x468 жыл бұрын
Had a 12 2dr sport and it was awesome but it wasn't practical for daily use being a home owner nor could it tow the camper I wanted to buy ... Trading it in a 15 unlimited sport auto with 4.10s ( had to order ) and couldn't be happier !! Also I had a soft top and now a hard top, biggest benefit of the hardtop for me is loading cargo into the back, unzipping and rolling the rear window just to put a large box or something in there got so old so fast ... Also I had a manual and loved it however having three knee surgeries on my left knee, I couldn't take the grinding of my knee working the clutch after a weekend of off-road :/
@iananderson95936 жыл бұрын
How many times did they mention they were in Colorado?
@tomhenman43028 жыл бұрын
We just purchased a 2d Sahara with soft top. Why? We are retired, wanted something to tow behind motorhome, something fun to drive when coach is parked so not a lot of distance driving, convertible at least in part, and short for towing. Now also we wanted more luxury options than you can get and Sahara was best for options for us and mainly road use. Anyhow wanted to point out a few reasons for Sahara and 2d from some older folks.
@stephenwarren554 жыл бұрын
If you want to tow more than 200 lbs, you can buy the 2 door Jeep Wranglers with the 4:10 or 3:73 ratios. Read the manual. 👍
@LongRon69698 жыл бұрын
I hate the pentastar v6, I really wish they offered a 5.7 hemi and the ecodiesel
@jeffk4648 жыл бұрын
Its a unique and capable Chrysler, but what are you going to do its still a Chrysler. What it needs is the diesel out of the Canyon, but thats not going to happen.
@nevileasterling6488 жыл бұрын
Nah, I want one with the legendary 4,0!
@JayElement138 жыл бұрын
Nevil Easterling bullet proof motor lol I luv my xj
@plaidty97722 жыл бұрын
Warm up time? I don't agree hard top is better. I have the soft top and it warms up as soon as the engine is warm. Non issue. Highway noise? Yeah... hard top is better, but do you buy a Jeep so it's quiet on the highway?
@matthewgiroux3538 жыл бұрын
It was a tough call for me. the only reasons to get the Rubicon rather than build up a Sport S are these: Front Dana 44 and Rock-Track Transfer Case. those things are notoriously expensive after market.
@richardprather2900 Жыл бұрын
I'm a manual preferred, when you brought that up I thought about German drivers… two types 1. Automatic (can “Only” drive Automatic) and Manual (can drive both).
@edwardnelson34137 жыл бұрын
Love your channel!! However, even at 46 years old, the 4-door to me just isn't a classic Jeep. Actually getting ready to purchase and was debating between 2-door Sahara or S. This helps, FYI test drive 2-door 75th, $43k!! Seriously
@Wearyman8 жыл бұрын
Still driving my Liberty KK (lift kit, bigger tires, upgraded bumper, added skid plates 3 months ago, will be adding a lunchbox locker soon) and it's still running like a top with regular maintenance. Why? It's a Jeep, of course. Performs fantastic. However, once it has seen it's day and it is time to move on, it's probably going to be either an Unlimited Rubicon or one of the new pickup body style ones for me.
@shadvan94948 жыл бұрын
I love my 2015 Rubicon Hard Rock. Jeep Discontinued the Uconnect 730N after the 2015 model year. it had much better sound and navigation than the current 430N. I originally wanted the standard Rubicon, but the dealer did not have any with a manual transmission, Lucky for my they did made me a smoking deal on a Rubicon Hard Rock because it had the 6 speed manual and everybody wanted the automatic.I have had 3 wranglers, a 95, 2005 and now a 2015. the alpine stereo is the best system I have ever heard in a Jeep and is better even than some other companies premium stereos. I was really impressed. I think the stereo in my old 2005 TJ X model was scientifically designed to be the worse sounding stereo ever. It like some Daimler-Chrysler engineers sat down together and said "how can we make the worst car stereo ever", and then bought stock in aftermarket radio companies. I didn't own it 30 day before it dove crazy to the point I had to swap it out. if you a getting a Wrangler, get the hard top. you can not talk to the person next to you above 50mph with out yelling with the softtop. the 2015 hard rock edition also had an insulated hard top to reduce noise and temperature. I think jeep made that standard now as every 2016 and 2017 I have seen has it. I am going to have to look into retrofitting the 2017 headlights on mine. there are after market ones, but they are between $500 and $700.
@Jeepingshort8 жыл бұрын
I think the wheel base on the 4 door is worth mentioning. it destroyes the 2 door in moab. the mecca of off roading.
@ethan416238 жыл бұрын
You have hill decent in the manual just have it in gear
@JasonSpenc5 жыл бұрын
MANual transmission all the way. 1. More control. 2. More reliable (one less thing to go wrong). 3. 6th gear (high gear ratio) generally means ability to get better fuel economy
@derekcorporon3655 жыл бұрын
The 4-door just looks a little screwy to me. I'll always have a 2-door.
@johnlennie74703 жыл бұрын
The 2 door is hugely popular with RVers who tow their Jeep’s.
@sherryb97707 жыл бұрын
You guys do the best reviews! I just bought my long-awaited and dreamed-of Wrangler JKU. I am not new to 4WD vehicles but I am now a member of the Jeep (cult) Club. I’m learning as much as I can and fast thanks to your videos. Thanks so much and keep up the good work! Happy Thanksgiving 🦃!
@pandafranchise7 жыл бұрын
Hows does the 2017 JK Willys W stack up to the Rubicon as far as being off-road capable?
@striperking60835 жыл бұрын
Andrew Francis , I have a 2015 Willy’s W . The rubicon has lockers and a lower geared transfer case . Tires are the same , as is ride height . Rubicon has the advantage, but the 2 door Willy’s is capable .
@fattie25508 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just bought a 2017 JKU
@jude52596 жыл бұрын
Hi, I live in wheat ridge Colorado I’m turning 16 next year and I’m planing on getting a job this summer to save up some money for a car when I turn 16, I love jeeps I am wondering what year Jeep should I get preferably a 4 door?
@theeddorian3 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the stock headlights? I know they aren't as bright, but on the trail at night, it is easier on your night vision. And, on the road, they're vastly easier on on-coming drivers.
@BeckTools8 жыл бұрын
yeah but... Wouldn't you guys agree that the aftermarket lockers are better quality and stronger then the stock? I mean if you're gonna buy them either way why not get a sport and aftermarket lockers and a set of manual sway bar disconnects.
@Packinheat11758 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand how a manufacturer can make a vehicle that's designed specifically for off-road, with open differentials? I understand you can get lockers on the Rubicon. Some form of rear locker or limited slip should be standard....period. You should also be able to get a front locker without the huge price tag of the Rubicon if they want this to be taken seriously as an "off roader". IMO. Very good vid in any event.