2008 ChampCar Long Beach

[@Bubbles23XI]

R.I.P Justin Wilson

[@jefferiestube]

I loved this series. Fortunately, the IndyCar Series has since adopted many things used in Champ Car (push-to-pass, paddle shifters, turbo engines, red-option tires) and are now introducing standing starts in select races in 2013. Now if we can just get back to Surfer's Paradise! :-)

[@MaverickNJ890]

The final Champ Car race was saddled with Danica Patrick & Marty Reid on commentary. Sad end to a great racing series I grew up with.

[@Cynon]

Marty Reid used to be a pretty competent pit reporter back in CART.

[@AlonsoRules]

@@Cynon Reid always came in for a lot of criticism but his handling of the Wheldon crash could not have been done better

[@kimifan06]

@@AlonsoRules reid's ending on that Weldon crash was so well done.

[@villy27]

Who would have predicted then Power being the real deal.

[@rosy_kykhn]

i mean, nothing was really happening for the final 15 laps or so. or honestly, most of the race. that's what's sad to me, is that this horrible series couldn't even throw up a half-decent race for it's final goodbye.

[@DiogoYoshida]

CART/ChampCar World Series will be always better than IndyCar in everything, cars, engines, pilots, tracks, the show itself and the fans!

[@ChiChiWoo]

What about the drivers and paint schemes?

[@rosy_kykhn]

cars? fuck no, both looks and safety wise (the DP01 was champ car's only good looking car, ever). engines? power wise yes, sound wise absolute no. drivers? would never have heard of them was it not for the reunite. tracks? very debatable.

[@DiogoYoshida]

Seu cu

[@theilleagle73]

Champ Car (aka CART) had the best cars & engines! They sounded great to boot. Those turbos spooling up are lovely ear-candy. "Team Bombersports" is right...Champ Car was "too ambitious early... and too expensive & advanced... for their own good". I agree with that. As of Feb 2018, F1 has finally seen the light!! F1 is moving from normally aspirated to Turbocharged engine setups! CART was definitely wayyyy ahead of the game but too early. Even Indy & F1 wasn't ready for the shows they (CART) were putting on in the 1990s-2000s. I used to live in the apartments up the street (Pine & 3rd) and for several days out of the year I had the best "alarm clock" when the LB GP came to town!

[@rosy_kykhn]

easily had some of the worst looking cars (except 2007), engines didn't sound brilliant either. CART was definitely too ahead of it's time and far too expensive for there own good. no wonder it was supposed to have died after 2003.

[@Casey_J96]

this is always my favorite race of the season. i wish the cars still looked like this. they were so nice looking!

[@rosy_kykhn]

if they looked like the DP01s, that'd be fine. if they looked like past champ cars before DP01s, then that's a sign that clearly the mistakes of CART weren't learned from.

[@AlonsoRules]

The 25-8 rule was the worst part of the split - it took 12 years for that to destruct the CART Series.

[@TheCounter005]

CART was the greatest open wheel series that ever existed. Indycar could take a step forward by changing the look of the current chassis. They have made a huge mistake with that thing by not acknowledging that looks actually matter to the fans. I think they only reason they have the fans they do right now is because people realize they have to support the only game in town or it will also go away. Bring back the turbo V8 now while F1 is stepping down to the V6. Make it happen, Indycar!

[@joaquinperez9146]

7:01 R.I.P. Justin Wilson, one of the good guys in racing.

[@remaster1981]

In my mind, CART/Champ Car, will always and forever be the premier indy racing series by which everyone and anything indy racing related is compared. The cars, the drivers, the tracks, nothing can compare to it. Indy racing nowadays has done some good things to improve the series, but they still need major major changes. they need a new chassis, a new engine. The cars dont even look like indy cars, they dont sound like it.

[@mikekolikas6746]

for me champ car: amazing sound amazing hp output very good looking cars it's a pitty that this championship doesn't exist any more

[@rosy_kykhn]

"very good looking cars" the only year that is not a lie is 2007.

[@jraybay]

Thanks for uploading Stef! These cars were awesome

[@Colddeed]

This was the end of an era. It's a shame they had to make this as part of the IRL race weekend(awarding IRL points to the drivers competing in this race), and not a stand alone event.

[@jonathan_tong93]

Sayang! Dapat nakapunta ang IndyCar sa Spain noong 2008

[@Si1verRaven]

amazing machines, IndyCar should consider engineering a modern version of these cars.

[@bradonyoutube8638]

Aged well

[@ShopeeMarketteam]

@@bradonyoutube8638 lmao

[@TheUsmc0802]

The day CART died. It was a great race, sad end. Miss the Turbo V8.

[@rosy_kykhn]

it took about 4 and a half years more then it should of have, for CART to die. and honestly? good goddamn riddance, to that horrendous series that was felt as if it was trying to kill it's self. ugly cars, engines that were ear poison to listen to, and some complete no-names (like tristan gommendy, robert doornbos, neel jani, ryan dalziel, alex figge, and more i don't need to mention because there that forgettable. just like this series.). introducing a new car for 2007 was the nail in the coffin, especially because of how bad it raced.

[@AlonsoRules]

CART died after that embarrassing event at Surfers Paradise in 2002

[@cdname47]

Although I have to say the race was a lot better than I remember. A shame really as that 2008 season would've been a great battle between power and Wilson in the trick Newman haas car...what might have been eh?

[@andrewwinslow9315]

"It's the first of many" Bobby Rahal Took about 7 years, but he was eventually right.

[@TheTMoney35]

We still have Champ Car today, it's called the IZOD IndyCar Series

[@josephbettano2569]

IndyCar now is basically CART leading up to the split! The league is dominated by Penske, Chip Ganassi, and Andretti, the big three teams, although smaller teams do play somewhat of a prominent role! The cars are technologically-centric! There are mostly international drivers, although we do have a pretty good group of American drivers like Josef Newgarden, Ryan Hunter-Reay, and Alexander Rossi! Also, the schedule greatly resembles an old CART schedule from the 90s with 2/3 road and street courses as well as 1/3 ovals! IndyCar is even going to classic CART venues! They have been racing at Road America since 2016! They will be going to Portland on Labor Day weekend! Also, next year what is now WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca is replacing Sonoma as the series' Northern California stop! IndyCar is doing pretty good for itself!

[@itzlizpy]

Anyone know why there is a champ car 2014 website????

[@gojenson]

+itzlizpy I am assuming you mean champcar-ws.com? it's a fan site who just made it as if the series never ended. Search "mark plourde".. you will see what I mean.

[@sneezabonk]

There is another racing series using the name

[@pionelpessi707]

Shame ChampCar was gone. After the cancelled 2001 Texas race, it just went downhill

[@TeamBombersportsUK]

Are people still whining about Champ Car going away? It sucks, but seriously - Indycar has been the stronger for merging with it. America isn't a natural open-wheel racing country, so two open-wheel series were never going to work. In addition, I think Champ Car went too ambitious early - the cars were almost too expensive and advanced for their own good, and it was running new races in new countries almost every year. No stability it seemed - I read a stunning stat that Champ Car didn't go one season without at least one race being cancelled. The way I see it, it's sad that Champ Car is gone, but the best lessons of it - road courses/street courses, the teams, Push To Pass, option tires etc - have been absorbed into Indycar. Final point - don't hate on Indycar for merging Champ Car - CCWS went bankrupt, they were gone, and Indycar bought out their assets and combined. They could've just left it to rot, but instead they took the best parts of the series and combined it.

[@Burley_Bert]

it didn't suck, you suck

[@mchaseross13]

You have got to be kidding me. "America isn't a natural open-wheel racing country"?! Have you been living under a rock? America invented open-wheel racing. Also, you're right. The country couldn't sustain 2 different series. However, you clearly don't remember Tony George's greed was the reason for the split in the first place. He tried to force out the non-Americans and make the CART/IndyCar/USAC calendar include primarily ovals. And no, IndyCar is not stronger. Attendance and tv ratings are way down from the times before the split. This is because the split caused a sponsorship rift too. All of the teams with the best sponsors stuck with CART, but they lost the Indy 500 because of George's selfishness. CART had the far superior car as well, but the big issue for its success was the Indy 500. It was always the better series in the matter that it had better drivers, cars, racing, and tracks. If George had left the series alone, NASCAR would be an afterthought, just like it was back in the 90s. The reason IndyCar never folded was because of the Indy 500. That will always be its saving grace. If you take champ cars of 10-15 years ago and replace the terrible DW12 with them, the quality of racing and excitement will automatically increase. People like speed and sound. The IndyCar iterations of the last 10 years do not have it, making the product on the track suffer. No, IndyCar never took the best parts of champ car because the best part of champ car was the car. It wasn't too expensive. It was just too expensive once sponsors left because the Indy 500 was no longer a CART event. It's sad we'll never see open-wheel racing in the spotlight again, just because some idiot who controlled the biggest race in the world was selfish.

[@raiderbelacasa]

mchaseross13 I consider that Indy is reunited today with a much better championship, with slopes of all kinds, a penalty that has clues that unfortunately no longer part of the calendar, as some of the time CART in their golden years. A pity that there were fights with some companies who care for oval like Phoenix, Michigan, Miami. But the current Indy is much more interesting and attractive and if it was not "hidden" in a channel such as NBC Sports, could be much better with the audience. The biggest problem in races is the lack of public in the oval except Indianapolis. I saw the Pocono races and Iowa last year and the public was much lower than expected.

[@mchaseross13]

Raider, I agree the racing is still very good, but the speed and sound of the cars is still a very big deal. Look at F1 right now. People are considering boycotting the sport because of the engine changes. IndyCar's switch to the V6 turbos had a similar effect. I wish they were on a different network, and I think that's what is holding the sport back from a resurgence. Yes, there are good races on the circuit, but great races that CART held such as Laguna Seca, Road America, Cleveland, and Portland are no longer on the schedule. Those tracks produced some of the best racing the series saw and would still do so now. I also feel Circuit of the Americas would be a superior choice to Houston. It's an awesome track and facility in an even better city. Attendance is really bad though. Even when the IRL was around, Texas used to draw a better crowd. Even now, it's the #2 highest attended race on the calendar, even over Long Beach. The sport is hurting badly, even though it's producing great racing. Many things need to change with the series, and a quicker/more powerful/louder car might be the first of many things to get the series going.

[@raiderbelacasa]

And look what we see in Formula 1 that Bernnie Ecclestone turned. A category that is running away from its roots (Europe) and is concentrating its races in countries that literally has no tradition in motorsport (only profit interests). My opinion: the Indy lost much with the twelve years of the split that divided the category CART and IRL. Indianapolis lost her magic for a few years taking his race unknown or of questionable quality pilots. It never occurred to split, we would have a category that today would be the best single-seaters. Principal of it all? Bernnie Ecclestone? Yes, he came to hate the American category for the success she had and the fact of Formula 1 in the 90s be in serious trouble, especially security. Tony George? Yes, the fury of his Indy want to make a more "American" (with more home riders and less foreign) literally was a failure, running on tracks that were most dangerous to single-seaters (Charlotte and Dover), little public largely races . Only one lane of the early days of the IRL was used until today, Texas. But the problem of Indy has more depth those classes of access (the years when the Indy Lights barely 10 cars line up in a grid and now it at least changed a bit after the Andersen went on to manage the Road To Indy), the question of the TV (this contract that Tony did with Versus turned NBC Sports that almost hid the category), traditional tracks that ended up leaving the scene. The exit? Some things that Mark Miles and Dereck Walker has made are paying off. Now in 2016 we will centenary of the Indy 500 in 2018 possibly a new aero package. What is lacking today is a new format to attract more riders to the Indianapolis 500, and the other two races of 500 miles to Pocono and Fontana.

[@bcschneider53]

9:30 And Brett still didn't retire for two more years...

[@amorag59]

16:10 That's awesome, that would never let that happen in F1

[@mikekolikas6746]

guys why there is still an official site of chamcar??

[@TiagoGLopes]

This re-unification was a correction of a mistake that terrible influenced to down in Indy history: the schism in 1996 between Champ Car and Indy Racing League. That was awful to the sport. Maybe we have a better future in re-unite competion. The Emotion Formula, like we nicknamed here in Brazil. Salut to the IndyCar Series!

[@jonathan_tong93]

Tama! 12 taon ng pagdurusa para sa IRL at sa Champ Car

[@kenbaker8868]

Sea Bass went to F1!

[@boxabertomc]

O fim definitivo da CART,1979-2008

[@skizzzzy3833]

Infelizmente. E pensar que faz mais de 10 anos que acabou

[@Erick-ls5zz]

@@skizzzzy3833 infelizmente meu amigo, eu adoro esses sons dos motores, da uma emoção a mais só de ouvir

[@taylorsmith9629]

1:19:45 when Danica comes on 1:30:45 when she leaves

[@jonathan_tong93]

On April 21, 2008, the IRL IndyCar Series on Net 25 continued with the 2008 Toyota Long Beach Grand Prix, the last Champ Car World Series race. This race was aired live on Net 25 with Rachelle Acuna Soriano (Lap-by-Lap) and David Hobbs (Color Commentator) as commentators alongside Cameron Steele, Bonnie Bernstein, Elmer Caseles, Ralph Sheheen, and Tracy Wolfson as Pit Reporters

[@mikekolikas6746]

thank you for the information but i didn't ask for videos i asked why there is still an official site of chamcars while the championship is not running any more check out at google

[@andrewwinslow9315]

Helio is gonna say the same thing 10 years later.

[@jja7038]

It’s ironic how Tony George’s IRL today in 2019 resembles what Cart was in 1995 even bringing back the roll bar and dumping the air box. Where are the American dirt track drivers and the all oval series without turbo chargers? I actually prefer it now to IRL which felt like a wannabe open wheel Nascar. But it won’t be popular again until you get drivers with personality such as like AJ Foyt, Tony Stewart, Jacques Villeneuve, Paul Tracy and Juan Montoya. Today’s drivers from Dixon, Pagenaud, Newgarden, Bourdais, Sato, Marco, Hunter Reay, and Graham are all boring. It’s concerning when a old F1 driver like Alonso is the biggest attraction to your series when he wasn’t even in the Indy 500.

[@Gcastaneda46]

Excellent commentary. Today's drivers are a bunch of social media puppets. No personality at all. I like where the Indy car series is going but all the current drivers are boring as people and as drivers. Let's see some real rivelries and some real anger. Also I'd like the engines to rev higher to give the racing that exotic sound. 14,000 rpm would do it!

[@kantina4765]

@@Gcastaneda46gonna be honest I think you’re a bit weird for caring about the personalities of people you will never meet. Be a fan of the driving not the driver, the drivers don’t want to be your friend.

[@fredomeireles]

I like Danica.

[@kenbaker8868]

What happened to Sea Bass? He is nowhere to be seen!!

[@taylorsmith9629]

He was in Formula 1 for 2008-2009 after winning his 4th consecutive Champ Car championship in 2007.

[@darrentoronto73]

I was not happy with champ car folding back in 08 and the unification taking the IndyCar design , the IndyCar sucked , looked (looks) horrible ,overweight with the oversized body panels and it just didn't look like a sexy race car and even up until this year 2017 . I still can't stand the way they look but LOVE american open wheel racing so in 2018 IndyCar design has taken some elements from the old champ champcar-CART model that has made me very happy so watching this video I look forward to the future of IndyCar

[@rosy_kykhn]

the Indycars looked good, until they didn't starting in 2012. (they still don't look all that good today, when compared to those glorious IR-05s). champ car was absolutely horrible, especially in it's later years. and if rewatching this crappy ass race raises your hopes for the future of Indycar? that automatically renders your opinion, completely meaningless.

[@SpeedZoneFTW]

i love champcar. ill make a spech to make champ car come back

[@SpeedZoneFTW]

Dawg I was like 7 when I made this comment god DAMN LMFAOOOOOO

[@gabrielbarboza5620]

One more race ..that we will hear her name..she left nascar with a wreck not surprise...maybe she will finish in the top 20 at indy..just finish a race gurly

[@BloodstainedSinner]

Doesn't matter what F1 is using for engines, they'll still be making more than 700hp, and they'll still weigh 300lbs lighter than any Indy Car.

[@jonathan_tong93]

Noong Abril 20, 2008, namaalam sa Long Beach ang Champ Car para sa Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach na siyang araw ng kamatayan ng CART/Champ Car

[@torrente392]

Nª1

[@Diecastreviews]

Nice of them to ruin the final laps by bringing Danica in...

[@skeleguns10oooooo10]

Champ car had to go, IRL took over its spot and the big teams left for it. The series merged with the IRL to what is now the NTT Indycar Series

[@taylorsmith9629]

I still say 2002-2007 champ car was better than 2002-2007 Indycar. And certainly 1996-2001 CART destroyed the IRL.

[@thegkgoalie8287]

44:43 "He's behind the toyota pace car" TOYOTA, (TOYOTA) pretty sure its not a toyota.

[@BoleDaPole]

TheGKGoalie it's a Toyota Camry.

[@New_D1v1de]

@@BoleDaPole no, its a mazda

[@rosy_kykhn]

it's was mazda RX8.

[@remaster1981]

There is nothing in the current open wheel series that resembles CART/Champ Car at all...Its still IRL...and that is so so sad. The series can be great again, but its needs a major shift in things. I think its a travesty that major portions of this race, especially the end, they all but ignored this the race itself and going on and on about the IRL championship and miss princess. Total slap in the face to the best open wheel series. TG should be jailed for murdering TRUE open wheel racing.

[@rosy_kykhn]

hope your happy now, brainless champ car worshipper.

[@cdname47]

Champcar didn't even get a people funeral as they were too obsessed with the sham victory of their showgirl *sigh*

[@rosy_kykhn]

fuel mileage is a legit way to win. motegi 2008 isn't even only example of Indycar fuel mileage wins. just watch kentucky 2010. and champ car didn't deserve to be celebrated. it was a miserable series, that should of have died in 2003, and even when kalkhoven, forsythe, and whoever the hell else it was revived it, the countless horrible descisions led the series to it's rightful demise.

[@cdname47]

@@rosy_kykhn it was the rightful indycar series, the throughline of indycar history runs through champcar, irl was the spinoff branch IRL became cart Light so fast it proved it wasn't about a vision or doing anything for American Motorsport and solely about who was in charge and his ego. And to do it he brought dangerous pack racing with ugly, ugly cars that were fully flat to the floor, over downforced, under powered easy to drive monstrosities. It wasn't needed and ruined indycar racing for 20 years, tony George will be remembered as the biggest fool in open wheel racing

[@rosy_kykhn]

@@cdname47 the CART abomonations were what looked ugly. have you even *seen* what 2008-2011 Indycars looked like? they were beautiful~ such a shame everyone wrongfully shits on them, and glorifies the crapwagons of CART. i'm starting to believe you don't have a brain or eyes.

[@o0Raine0o]

really blame the teams on the downfall of the series, wouldnt be that serious if they just employed more american talent instead of taking everybod ywho drove a testcar in F1 or anywhere else, the loss of penske, ganassi and andretti as a team wasnt the dagger in back

[@SVPSkins]

Don't talk rubbish. alot of the f1 drivers brought in new fans to Champcars but Indycars had the better backing.

[@SwineBrothers]

you first need american talent to have...american talent. and we didn't have much of it for a while. marco andretti, oh boy. al unser IIIIIIIIIIII, joy of joys. a.j the 40000000000th, special ed.....

[@razormc954]

Swine Brothers Jeff Gordon was denied a ride in CART, he ended up in NASCAR. Stewart ended up in NASCAR in a few years, practically every promising young American driver ended up in NASCAR

[@SwineBrothers]

i always wondered what would have happened if Jeff Gordon would have waited a few years, gone to indy lights, got some road racing experience. what would have happened then? the era of the sprint/midget drivers going to indy long past

[@villy27]

DewStorm88 Gordon simply was not ready for CART. No one could expect moving directly from the dirt tracks to IndyCars. He should have tried Formula Atlantics or Indy Lights first.

[@joaopaulogomes46]

Champ Car >>>>>>>>>> IRL

[@rosy_kykhn]

nope. especially not by the mid2000s.

[@km10nner]

tony george ruined champcars-f1 forget it JUS follow the LEADER, they may have have best techs, just no competition

[@christiandavidnorenavalenc9944]

And the worst thing, he became its category in a cheaper CART/Champ Car in technology, engines, performance, even the tracks. He complained too much about CART to attend more road/temporary/street circuits than oval tracks and to internationallizate the championship with foreign drivers, and now IndyCar attends only 4 oval tracks, and there are more foreign drivers than american ones nowadays. George started killing CART/Champ Car by spliting up from CART by nothing, and CART anxiously took unfortunate decisions that finally led to that championship ends. 🤬🤬

[@km10nner]

check out champcar4ever-not official has some good videos

[@kennethkilleen8758]

CHAMPCAR/CART INDY WTF

[@mareksumguy1887]

A chick winning in a field of men. Thats just messed up.

[@AlonsoRules]

+Marek Sumguy it was on fuel mileage, nothing spectacular - meanwhile in NASCAR she's in a championship winning team and can't get a top 10

[@mareksumguy1887]

+Anthony Kernich Oh thank God.

[@htomas3707]

+Marek Sumguy Anthony is right. Why she is so loved by everyone.... Can't understand. A lucky below average driver who wins a race by luck.

[@mareksumguy1887]

+h tomas She is extremely lucky to be racing in this class at all!. She will NEVER be a champion... thats guaranteed. Theres a reason why men and women don't compete against each other in EVERY other sport!.

[@raymonddionne5088]

+Marek Sumguy she should've won the Indy 500 as a rookie so your comment is really stupid