Are Budget builds ACTUALLY worth it?

[@amrfadel7932]

Are you the same type of person that watches budget builds without even having any money at all

[@Sir_punchwood]

Trying to feed myself in college while watching reviews for 2080s and the 5700 XT lmao

[@wardaddy3249]

college is for suckers waste 5-6 of your life in college rack college tuition then come out owing thousands of dollars just to find a job that pays 60k a year. Lol fuck college I got out of high school and went to make 160k-190 a year.

[@tacoman7709]

War daddy no one asked

[@wardaddy3249]

I don't care if nobody asked I said it anyways.

[@amrfadel7932]

@@wardaddy3249 man you are a freakin loser It's better to be educated and make less money than being very rich without any education or college degree You can't compare a poor doctor with Some wealthy un educated fucker that Educated people will always be better

[@liz.1328]

I feel like he's judging me for poor budgeting decisions i haven't made yet.

[@rory193]

In An Elmo Cult 😂😂😂

[@northernkaiser7979]

Elmo cult and has 666 likes im not gonna like it so it will stay the same

[@liz.1328]

@@northernkaiser7979 i unliked my comment. you can like it now.

[@northernkaiser7979]

@@liz.1328 thank you

[@Mazzemax]

Once you go SSD you can never go back to a regular hard drive.

[@nicksparrow009]

Yes... I used StoreMI to give me HDD 2GB DRAM Cache

[@Paradigmfusion]

indeed, I hate it when I have to use my girlfriends laptop, Im running m.2 SSD and she is running a 5400rpm drive...

[@Trainboy1EJR]

You can, but you just have to wait a few minutes for something that would take seconds. Grab a snack when you open Word, make a frozen pizza while waiting for a game to load, brew some tea while while waiting for Chrome to open. How are you suppose to eat anything when there is no waiting on a m.2 NVME SSD?

[@TheValentineEnemy]

Aaaand what if you use both?

[@theworldoverheavan560]

@@Trainboy1EJR lol

[@milchpackungszertreter6769]

Step 1 : get a budget gaming PC Step 2 : get minecraft Step 3 : start a gaming youtube channel Step 4: make minecraft series Step 5 : earn money Step 6 : buy a better gaming PC with that money Step 7 : start playing high-end games Step 8 : get more famous

[@maverickboiiii]

Step 9: go back to playing minecraft

[@lilsxmi7332]

Step 10 : if your parents gave u the money for the build , earn money then give back

[@tartarsauce2601]

Step 9: get censored

[@mr.banana4178]

Lol pewdiepie in a nutshell

[@user-be2dn8gb7e]

@@mr.banana4178 not really

[@scottquaint]

Please, we want to see the cleanest cardboard box build ever!!

[@JB-Voices]

I couldn't agree more :D

[@ominae1]

Watch it in the toasty Bros channel

[@spacecy]

really..? in this channel?

[@scottquaint]

@@spacecy Yes, Jay can do it, no problem lol

[@TheOziasmidwinter]

Pringles tube PC when? (might be an idea for raspberry pi build, probably not so good for fortnite:) )

[@martyboi5609]

Your telling me that a 3100 dollar monitor is affordable? Are you trying to laugh at my financial situation?

[@TAnimations]

I'm over here with my $100 monitor 1080p 60hz and I'm doing just fine lol

[@Apple-iy6xk]

I am trying to.

[@BAYSINRACING]

@@Apple-iy6xk lol

[@godofwar9767]

Really 3000 dollars is budget?

[@Mr11ESSE111]

for him are affordable because he earn that money in few days from google and sponsors and get that monitors for free

[@802Garage]

Not that anyone will even see my comment, but I absolutely say find the budget for an SSD, period. Get a 250GB SSD for your boot drive and to hold your most commonly used applications and games. It is absolutely the biggest difference you wheel feel on a day to day basis using your PC.

[@SIDFAILBA]

Man you show up in the strangest places.

[@802Garage]

@@SIDFAILBA Haha, I have a game programming degree and I've done a lot of IT work in my life. Cars, games, and computers are my main spaces. You'll also see me on h3h3 and such though. :P Besides, Jay loves cars too! He has a whole channel for it.

[@802Garage]

@Sean Price For sure. I tend to get along well with techy gear heads. 😂

[@Trainboy1EJR]

I remember getting a 1tb SSHD for my PS3 for $130 way back. Now you can get a 1tb SSD for the same price. I'd go for a 1tb SSD, 250gb just seems too small, that's just the OS and 2 big games.

[@taylonjudd923]

@Sean Price even then though. 1 tb ssd are going for around $90 usd. So i wouldnt even both with hdd if you can help it. It's such a huge difference on pc

[@Magnulus76]

In my 24 years of building my own PC's, I've never found "future proofing" your PC to be a viable concept unless you are wealthy.

[@darksungwyndolin7888]

It should be called future-resist rather than future-proof

[@Magnulus76]

@Smith & Wesson Video cards are the only PC part I've had fail on me in that manner (besides hard disks). And I don't overclock.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

It's true, though, if you're "poor" then buying a "decent" computer and then buying a new GPU every 3 years from then and buying new mobo/cpu every 4-8 years and replacing ram/hdd/psu as necessary is how you "future proof" a machine... You just buy a massive case that will last 20 years of swapping out the parts that need it. It's like how a rich and a poor person maintain a car, poor people repair their car, change the oil, get new tires... Rich people just... buy a new car every year.

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@Smith & Wesson shit, now I'm having worries if I will regret just buying the rtx 2080 super....Thanks

[@themostballershiteva]

Idk, I put an i7 920 in a computer in 2009 and it lasted for 9 years. I’m pretty sure I saved money by future proofing.

[@Donkens]

8:02 : Me 8:05 : The guy she tells me not to worry about

[@AbhayArsekar]

8:12 : her (i3 7100) ;)

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@AbhayArsekar LOL I'M DEAD!!!

[@AR-fh4qu]

Let me give you hope, watch the next minute and listen carefully. He talks about better pairing. There is someone more compatible for you out there bud

[@Donkens]

@Splatoon is the worst game of all time. you can eat my chorizo and wake it up

[@nerdysquirtle8478]

Ugandan is funny omo

[@vertisce2845]

Ok...I will be waiting for that "Cardboard Box PC Case" video!

[@n4psters986]

Yeah aggree

[@crombajaa]

Wow! That seems expensive!!

[@TheBioethicist]

Do eeeeet!

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

I actually had my Ryzen 5 and RX 470 in cardboard box left over from a fundraiser. Cut a couple fan holes and it worked surprisingly well.

[@i_i8924]

WATERCOOL'd CARDBOARD BOX BUILD

[@carlholmberg4205]

"Nobody uses pci anymore" Linus Tech Tips: I'm about to ruin this whole man's career

[@mcsaundy4596]

I have 7 slots, 6 are used and that’s only because the gpu takes 2 slots or I would have used that to lol

[@marianmarkovic5881]

Actaly i have pci ocupied It is find on low end mobo for potencial corporate usability I was actualy thinking buying some old sound card for pci, but driwers are problem,..

[@satibel]

I use 5 pci slots, I have 3 4xethernet boards, and 2 wifi n boards.

[@Kalvinjj]

SoubdBlaster Audigy SE here on the PCI slot! And no, onboard is NOT better it sucks ass compared to it. And yes, if I had money (and the need) I would use a PCIe one (since fuck this extra USB hanging around for a DAC), but that's what I have and won't replace unless in extreme need, so a PCI slot is always welcome for me.

[@andreastanu9413]

I still use my 20 years old sound blaster on pci slot coz my onboard sound broken. I love pci slot. And I always look for full size atx. Never bought m-atx

[@CaillousStepDad]

This video should be called “Should people who don’t have $3000 laying around be able to enjoy gaming?”

[@aquagiraffe1988]

@Stale Bagelz What cars are less than $1000? Are you talking about cars from 1982 with 600000 miles on them? because you can get a PC from that time period for less than $1000 too, doesnt make it a good comparison.

[@yonkobuster112]

a pc for 500 dollars can run games just fine, don't need an expensive system to enjoy gaming

[@SHrepairs]

@@aquagiraffe1988 You can get a car from year 2000 for under 1k. That said a well looked after car from 1982 will get me around town, to work etc, just fine, an unused computer from 1982 is a giant paperweight. I'm going to stop thinking about this before I get a nosebleed lol why is life so complex

[@Stonerman135]

If you go second hand market, it's not that hard to build a computer for under $600. I built my system back in March for just over $550 and runs every game on Ultra at over 60fps. I only just found out that my 1070ti supports ray tracing a couple days ago and haven't had the opportunity to test it on my system but I don't think ray tracing is a necessity for gaming.

[@Jennifer-cb1uu]

@Stale Bagelz That's more expensive than 2/3 of all the cars i've owned. Prob the reason I've had to own more than one car in my life, though...

[@elymuff]

I built my PC during the Kaby Lake days so I'm screwed on upgradeability

[@itsPovich]

marc kushin same-sies

[@Mr0supra0]

Not really, if you got an i5 or i7 of the mid to high range, you don't really need to upgrade that for a long long time if you are mainly a gamer. That CPU will easily hold up 3 more years without issues. CPUs last for the most time until the need arises to upgrade, and by that time, you are due for a new system anyway. I had an i7 3770k until last month, never had any issues with it. All I did to the system was add RAM, and upgrade the GPU every 2 years.

[@GreenBeret61]

marc kushin I built about 3 years ago with 6700k & gtx970. Still kicking. Msi Z170 MB stopped working a week ago and replaced with gigabyte b250. Still same performance. Built it for about 2k$.

[@theanimerapper6351]

@@Mr0supra0 4 core i5s are dead unless you have a k

[@Bourinos02]

Tbh, it really depends on what you're doing... I still use a venerable Xeon W3680 (Yup, this is Westmere from 2010...) and I now only do gaming and it's perfectly adequate for 1080p gaming paired with a 980 Ti. That being said, the upgradability of Intel systems is garbage so if upgradability is really on the table, there's really no competition, it's an AMD build and that's it.

[@aaronmicalowe]

A budget build isn't about saving money. It's about working with the capital you've got. People know it'll cost more in the longrun but that's the price you pay for playing a few games now rather than waiting for years.

[@CesarFlores-wd1iz]

Thank you

[@PerciusLive]

Budget building is exactly what you said. Making a future proof build is probably the best way to go atm. Currently im doing a 9600k with a 2060 super or maybe a 2070 super and Im thinking itll last me 5 years at the least

[@EmanVsEmmanueL]

@@PerciusLive Back in 2012 I think. I built a system with a 3570k and a gtx 670. I would still be using it if my psu and my motherboard didn't fail a couple of weeks ago. I got a 9600kf and a rtx 2070 super on boxing day. Hopefully I'll have many years of good gaming to come.

[@jefferylittleton1005]

@@EmanVsEmmanueL this is me. My 670 let me play whatever I wanted up until last year when it failed. I never had a problem. I wasn't playing Rdr2 or anything, but I never had a game I couldn't play with atleast high graphics.

[@similaritiesendhere]

It's not even about saving money. It's about finding a sweet spot. Everyone who overpaid for a 1080 Titan feels really stupid. Never buy a GPU that no games will be optimized for until many years later when you can buy mid-ranged equivalent many years later and play the same games. Look at the specs for upcoming consoles. 90% of the games will be optimized for that. Build what you need to run those games at higher settings, resolutions, and framerates (mid-ranged shit).

[@alexh4449]

ME: - I need a new GPU. $500? Yeah, okay. - Wait, new GPU will bottleneck my old CPU... - New CPU will not work with the old MOBO... - New CPU and GPU require more power then my previously purchased "budget" PSU can put out... - I also need new RAM with faster timing... - Might as well buy a larger SSD... - EU has insane VAT - $2000 later...^#@#%^&%$%

[@julienverveer748]

Thats how it went with me... figured it'd be safer to build entirely new PC

[@lexwaldez]

If you're looking at a $500 GPU then yeah, you're in for $1300-1500 easy. I think you can do a quality R7 3700x build for under $1500 and that includes new case and p/s

[@TheDeadAlewives]

The struggle of PC gaming in a nutshell, lol.

[@the_next_hokage7301]

Haha this happened to me exactly, exact order too

[@shmitty8570]

Its great to watch videos on builds and when you calculate the tital in the EU its 500 euro over what the youtuber paid

[@abdamenacemusic70]

You Look Like The Oldest Young Man Ever 😂

[@Hr1s7i]

IKR? He looks like he was 25 yesterday, then saw some real shit.

[@mixltv143]

@@Hr1s7i dude met God, modern day moses

[@antonyfranco2866]

You haven't seen Joe Pera then.

[@CommanderTato]

He is 38 years old, looking at his past he used to have weight problems. Its good he managed to get healthier. He is a fun good man.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

@@CommanderTato Hey...my hair went Gray in 30s. Get off my lawn !!! Jay rocks.

[@rockgamerz2064]

One component that not many people speak about and is overlooked is monitor. You are literally going to be staring at it for hours.

[@petrasvinciauskas878]

This 👆👆 is overlooked.

[@JamesHoffa1]

It's never included in PC build lists or prices. Why assume a person who needs to look up guide already owns a monitor?

[@supuntissaarachchi8353]

*"You can game on anything"* Lol!! Thats my motto. I use a intel HD 4600 :)

[@supuntissaarachchi8353]

@Jason Poole I played far cry 4 and assassin's Creed unity on this potato

[@chucknorres5885]

Im jealous of my brother who has Intel 4600 I got Intel 2500 so I play cs at 30fps if I'm lucky

[@brianthelion]

Still rocking my fx6300 and GTX 1050

[@chromawave6526]

Supun Tissaarachchi I used to use a Celeron j3060 with 4gb of DDR3 on a all in one, it barely ran windows :)

[@hyeri2429]

@Andy vo_2215320 that is not mid level

[@MaxSparta]

Now i want to see Jay make a case using only the boxes all of the parts come in.

[@Jason1234545]

Really great idea!

[@kieferonline]

Genius!

[@omgdisfunny4852]

"maybe we should do a cardboard box case" Linus tech tips : *WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN*

[@sayanyadav5108]

He did it😂

[@alfie2891]

Sayan Yadav wait what

[@omgdisfunny4852]

@@alfie2891 not that long after the video linus actually did it

[@alfie2891]

@@omgdisfunny4852 lmao

[@thomasloyal4525]

I'm still waiting the soap pc case for a clean build ( it's been 5 years since I've started asking for it !)

[@McCool117]

I'm not sure if Jay forgot about it, but getting a good quality power supply is important. Like everything else on this video, don't buy cheap. The power supply is usually the most overlooked component, because it isn't as fancy as the rest of the components in a pc. If a CPU or GPU is faulty, then you can switch it out, and everything is hunky dory. But if a PSU is faulty, it could potentially fry your entire system. You don't have to get a super expensive one, or one with 1000W+, but stick with well known brands that have good quality products. I'd personally pick Gold certified or higher, but as long as the model has a good track record, then you shouldn't have to worry about it too much.

[@Peregrine101]

To get a rule of thumb. Look for quality and for capacity. You might want to go bonkers on overclocking or go for the sli or crossfire setup in the future. You just have to have the capacity. Go short on the capacity of your PSU and you will most likely pay for it in the future, especially in a so called budget build. GPU's can easily be switched out, but the power hunger of every next gen card is growing like wildfire. And you see that in other parts, too, like CPU's.

[@NistaDGB]

gg man , I was the PSU

[@ImDembe]

@v KEITH v 80+ Gold should be standard today and you can find them cheap, sure higher efficiency is only worth going over if you have a really thirsty system. I always check warranty on PSUs, 5 years at least and they usually use good parts and you can find very good reviews at JonnyGuru that check EVERYTHING inside and out on PSUs so you don't buy junk.

[@ImDembe]

@v KEITH v People are going nuts, i have a 8600K and RTX2070 overclocked on a 450w psu, not optimal for efficiency or noise but it dosn't spin up that fast. People tell me i need 650w lol i don't have a i9 and a 2080ti :D

[@phenomanII]

I have an RM1000i powering an i7-4790 (non K) and an RX480. I got a good deal on it and I wanted something that can power my rig passively with no issues while stuffed into a small case with not that much airflow and, most importantly, when covered with panels to stop coil whine if necessary. The option to check the temperatures via USB came in pretty helpful when I wanted to know how well it was doing. Since I stick to used parts at good prices, I wanted the option of powering an overclocked inefficient high end CPU and GPU if I got a good deal on one in the future. I used to cringe at builds with PSUs this overkill and never expected to do it myself one day. When I saw the other coments I though I might as well let you all know freaks like me exist.

[@TheMindBullets]

I love talking budget when I see over 20 RTX graphics card boxes sitting in the background

[@Hustlery]

Exactly

[@aaronhughes6392]

So because he runs a tech channel and gets loads of cards to test and review and benchmark he’s no longer a valid source of budget options and explanation?

[@TheMindBullets]

@@aaronhughes6392It wasn't meant as a slam at all. Sorry if that wasn't evident. It was just a commentary on the sheer dollar amount of graphics cards sitting behind him.

[@oozly9291]

Aaron Hughes w Wooooooosh

[@im_just_braydon64]

Aaron Hughes chill dude 😂😂

[@1969MARKETING]

If you are on a budget the goal is really to get the most longevity you can for the price. Finding that sweet spot takes some research and planning.

[@finnadler1356]

"Game on anything" crisis 3 has entered the room

[@sammylam1649]

around $1000 (plus minus $200 depending on whether peripherals are included) is probably the sweet spot for absolute value for money

[@Shinobubu]

Thats the key word. Longevity.

[@detecta]

@@sammylam1649 800 is budget nowadays? wow

[@sammylam1649]

@@detecta it is for a gaming pc. don't get into a hobby if you can't afford it.

[@OverdriveTech]

I built a custom liquid cooled PC to browse reddit and youtube. My bank account hates me, but atleast my PC is dead silent and it looks pretty.

[@okiyoii]

JUST to browse? overkill wtf

[@omega0422]

That's just dumb

[@kerfunkyonyoutube845]

@@okiyoii r/whoosh

[@mahnamejeff7586]

@@kerfunkyonyoutube845 excuse me wtf? How is this a woosh? There was no joke to misinterpret. He just said the truth. It is ducking overkill.

[@kerfunkyonyoutube845]

@@mahnamejeff7586 I'm fairly sure the original comment is satire.

[@shoOoterlegend]

"Get whatever box you think is prettiest that fits in your budget" Honestly that's a mood

[@silversolver7809]

Get the biggest, with the fewest sharp edges and corners-save on medical bills during assembly, and on cable fraying during PC life.

[@CertifiedH2]

Half of the pc gaming community have budget builds

[@fitchyyboi]

Much more than half my guy, I'm willing to bet 75% of all PCs are less than 1k

[@reecejones7215]

Bruh ram has gone so cheap. You can get 16 gigs for 2/3rds the price I paid for 8 last year

[@theuniverse5965]

Lord Shaxx, Crucible Handler Facts bro, last year I got 8 gigs of 2133 for $130, now I can get 16g of 3200 mhz for $85.....

[@Mr_Joe_B_619]

@@theuniverse5965 Where do you get that - The cheapest I Find are G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $144.99. Where I want in case I want to expand later.

[@theuniverse5965]

Joe B I found it on amazon... heres a link : www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=ddr4+3200&qid=1561263593&s=gateway&sr=8-3

[@b.henriques9871]

Yeah, and ssd prices too! First half of 2018 the cheapest 120 gb ssd was around 70€!

[@heretichunter1256]

@@theuniverse5965 woah there brother, that's a decent price.

[@jackfirth4555]

When Jay said should you put an i3 in this and shook his head was hilarious.

[@roimores]

2:54 i3 = You Motherboard = The girl you like i9 = That guy that is better than you in every aspect and every girl likes

[@mistergameplay9766]

@@roimores ryzen 9 3950x: the chad

[@laurynasrami98]

Intel are shit for gaming

[@pxrposewithnopurpose5801]

@@laurynasrami98 no intel is good for gaming but amd is good for creative works cause they got lotta cores

[@masatomiester4115]

@@pxrposewithnopurpose5801 My ryzen 5 3600 has 6 lotta cores

[@MrFrozenTea]

Amd = invest in mb for future and profit intel = build around cpu and get a mb that fits your need because next gen chipset inst gonna work anyway

[@Waldherz]

Unless you had a Z370 wich works perfectly fine with 9th gen.

[@MrFrozenTea]

@@Waldherz Coffee Lake 9th gen is horrible it's nothing hut a refresh of what they sold on 8th gen.

[@Waldherz]

@@MrFrozenTea Same with Zen 1 and Zen 1+ so i dont see the issue.

[@MrDucktastic]

@@WaldherzRyzen 1xxx to Ryzen 2xxx was actually a jump in performance due to shrunken process and another year of fixes for teething issues. 8th to 9th gen Intel... they just used a different thermal material, overclocked it by 100-300MHz and repackaged it. Implemented a few firmware fixes for Meltdown/Spectre exploits. Was kinda pointless for anyone who delidded their CPU. (I own an 8600K so looked into it at the time). Looking forward to Ryzen 3xxx series coming out, need Intel to pull their thumbs out.

[@resevil2396]

Unless like me you do your build only for them to make it obsolete a Gen or two later lol. I got the fx-8350. Its still going strong, despite a small bottleneck with my gpu (jusf got a gtx 1660), but there are literally only 2 or 3 fx processors above mine and ryzen uses a new socket type. And since I built mine when gddr4 ram was still newer and expensive I'll need new ram as well since I've heard thats all anyone uses and it isn't backwards compatible. Basically it doesn't matter who you buy from. Amd makes more sense because its more affordable but thats it. Either one could change sockets, esp if you want to keep your build as long as possible.

[@JonathanMahadeo]

Are Budget builds ACTUALLY worth it? *Yes, if you bankrupt yourself then you wont be able to use your system.*

[@idonthaveayoutubechannel4294]

I was petting my cat while watching this and my cat almost stuck her foot in my right nostril

[@mregg1729]

Epic

[@christopherdecker3830]

Right now, upgrading from HDD to SSD is the best optimization on a "price per pound" basis. Definitely using SSD these days 😍!

[@cdreid99999]

i have like 3 small ssd's and a 2tb hdd and the speed difference from adding the ssd's is crazy. I really want to move to m.2 when i get the cash

[@christopherdecker3830]

@@cdreid99999 Try one of the less expensive NVMe drives out there if you have a M.2 slot for it and tight on cash...you will NOTICE the speed difference between it and a SATA SSD... I did. I consider a less than 30 second boot from power on to loaded up for 10 good :-) ... And go with 1TB or larger drives if you can...a terabyte will cost a little over 100... and remember the M.2 screws... not always included...

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@@christopherdecker3830 Normally the motherboard That you buy comes with it. Or at least for mine it came with everything.

[@thetravelshot]

"You can game on anything" Well you can't game on Mac, you sir lied!

[@squishyawesome4249]

You can play minesweeper ?........

[@valdisandersons129]

Minecraft is a game, it runs on the Macbook just fine.

[@Lambda_Ovine]

You can play solitary on a mac... right?

[@Ecliptor.]

@@Lambda_Ovine Yeah, you turn it off and use it as table, with real cards

[@reckless5838]

Roblox

[@Ferrari308Blue]

Do a build where the computer case is made up of only the boxes that the parts for the build came in.

[@PHamster]

1980s Marketing Gimmick = Turbo 2019 Marketing Gimmick = Gaming **Other me** OMG I want a Gaming Blendtec with RGB!!!

[@mikiii880]

Haha, when I was a kid I had a Turbo button on my keyboard. Really thought it made my car go faster when playing Rally

[@LucasCunhaRocha]

Back in the day even kitchen appliances were "turbo" like a blender or a microwave. Good times...

[@NerfWarsJuelich]

will be seeing pcs with vtec very soon

[@psycholocke4090]

no. you want a "Turbo Gaming RGB Blendic Power Super Mega" ... something 😉

[@SimonLeBonbonbon]

@Richard Benoit FYI: On compatible PC's (8088/8086 clones) the turbo button was a common thing, mainly used to slow down in order to prevent timing issues with software that depended on cpu timing. That was in the 80s. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_button Swapping out a 8088 with a NEC V20 (or 8086 with a V30) brought back the timing issues because these CPU's were had a higher IPC-rate/was more efficient. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEC_V20 For 80286's a turbo button was very common.

[@dopemanricky7196]

Me knowing nothing about computers: my budget would be like 500 Video: 2:47 Me: welp

[@fivas]

😂

[@cdreid99999]

you can build a NICE computer for 500. Ryzen 7 17 or 1800x, Used liquid cooling. 8gb ram, Used hdd and ssd. Should have enough left to toss in a used gtx 1060 or 1070. that will play any game on the market, the cpu will rarely if ever be taxed and it will be upgradeable for 5+ years and will likely be able to do anything you want it to 5 years from now

[@Ecliptor.]

@@cdreid99999 NEVER buy used gpu

[@MrWasian]

@@cdreid99999 getting a used hdd or ssd is just asking for early drive failure. With drives becoming so cheap it's just easy to wait until a sale and grab both a hdd and ssd for less than $120 being a 240 sad and 2tb hdd.

[@brycegriffin9271]

@@cdreid99999 Ryzen 7 lol? On a $500 budget build? Not very practical

[@trajectoryunown]

"Put it in a cardboard box." I-I wasn't aware that was on option.

[@picolasbnf]

@Stale Bagelz Ah yes, the Peter Parker PC

[@muffinman4515]

1:46 I learned that lesson the hard way. Built a PC in 2016 with a i3-6100 and RX460 and suffered from upgrade inability. I bought a DDR3 CPU at the end of the DDR3 era and it therefore made no since to buy more ram as if I was to upgrade my CPU I would also need a new mobo and ram.

[@prateekkarn9277]

The channel ram thing... You really want dual channel for amd. Also be very careful with choosing boards if you wanna upgrade to Ryzen 3rd gen. The b350 and motherboards below this can't support the +95tdp of the Ryzen 3rd gen.

[@ColdieHU]

Depends on which one you get. Not all gen3 Ryzen need more than 95W

[@prateekkarn9277]

@@ColdieHU safer than sorry imo, you buy a bit more expensive motherboard which will let you upgrade to the higher end of CPUs on the next gen. You won't have to buy a whole new motherboard once you realise that your motherboard can't support your cpu. If you wanted an r5, hold off until 3rd gen but if you bought everything except for the CPU and then realise that your motherboard isn't compatible with your cpu. You will then go through mild trauma (just being overly dramatic) I'm also waiting for Navi so crossfire board is also something I was looking for and the higher end motherboards have a better chance to have it supported. I mean you can't go wrong with this.

[@prateekkarn9277]

@@zawium this is AMD, they really do know how to kick your electricity bill. hopefully r5 is under 90 watts or else you will face the wrath of blue screens cuz you undervolted the CPU.(I'm not sure if blue screens will even come or it will just straight up turn off)

[@ColdieHU]

Well if we can trust the leaks, R5 will max at 95w and then it starts with R7 3700x where it will go above that. The 3700x will take 105w

[@billclark6688]

thank you! It helped me show my son why some (many) of the budget builds on YT are a bit iffy. I was surprised you did not cover power supplies--but this was very good!

[@blaizeautumn]

yeah jay would love to see you do a cardboard box XD BLD ult giveaway is near

[@elip9810]

Nintendo made a cardboard box, I'm sure u could do better - a atx case with saran wrap window. Lol

[@VENT8699]

This video has helped me decide on my build more than any other video I’ve watched! Straight to the point

[@hsandev8972]

You had to talk about PSU, since alot of people actually cheap out on this, and this is one of THE MOST important parts of a build !!

[@somenmondal2965]

I am very happy that someone like Jay is helping out with ideas not to overspend on these small things which sometimes we overlook but if we think from a budget builder's point of view, these small things actually matter a lot

[@SassMate]

"Game on anything" *crisis 3 has entered the room*

[@bluelotus1705]

dead joke not funny anymore

[@h4swell]

RDR 2 has entered the room

[@bluelotus1705]

@@h4swell rdr is a unoptimized crap, not tha demanding at all ,just look at console versions Lmao running on a 2012 hardware

[@SassMate]

@@bluelotus1705 Look, I intended to make people laugh, if you have a problem with that go deal with it by yourself. You're boring.

[@n.u.n1177]

*Skyrim has joined the chat*

[@jarrod7465]

I got a 500GB SSD for $100 (Australian) -so about 70 bucks US. There's no excuse to not stick one in your case to run your OS and most used programs.

[@MrSGL21]

just bought a 480 gig kingston, $53 us from amazon

[@deman7276]

For os you can grab a 120g less than 20 bucks, and a 1 tb hard drive for less than 50. Everyone should have an ssd, I agree.

[@MrSGL21]

@@deman7276 yep 120s are $20 on prime. 240s are $30 4tb drives run $50-60 amazon.

[@notmirelnam248]

I went all SSD on storage. 1 TB of the cheapest SSD I could get my mitts on. I like not hearing a HDD.

[@MrSGL21]

@@notmirelnam248 1 TB is down o $100. a good 2 tb is $250. which sounds expensive, but i blew $200 in 1995 on a 540 MEG maxtor for my 486dx33.

[@Matthew-ne1xc]

It took awhile for my hd graphics 820 to render the RTX boxes in the background. **Cries in 144p** Edit: HoLy CrAP GuYs THanKS FoR AlL ThE LIkeS IvE NevER hAd ThIS mAny BeFore

[@alexandreparent5754]

144p. Ahhh the true slav experience

[@DarkLinkAD]

Nahh a Piii does better than that.

[@megido878]

save.

[@LegoSwordViedos]

I don't even have a dedicated GPU

[@GrubKiller436]

Imo, I would say that one, on a budget, should at least get: CPU: (at least) one with 6 cores GPU: (at least) RX 580 w/ 8gbVRAM... GTX 1060 w/ 6gbVRAM... or stronger RAM: 16gb of RAM, dual-channel (8gb is not good for the future) Motherboard: no more than $100 Case: no more than $55 PSU: no more than $65 Drive: (at least 500gb) SSD or m.2 (I know HDDs are cheap, but leave them to the past) Would be a budget build that I recommend. With specs lower than this, you're gonna have to replace your parts so fast, it's not even worth it. Especially because the future is going to arrive quick (new PlayStation and new Xbox)...

[@usseal922]

2:44 You've been clearly visited Papa Linus too much lately

[@skippingbear92]

i had a solid 30 fps machines fx 8350 and 1gb 650 ti and 8gb ram 1600 and it served me well for a few years the only new parts were my cpu and ram got the rest used. cost around 350-400 back then

[@araarabutkermitthefrog]

Im using a ddr2 system Core 2 duo 2GHz

[@JakeHockley]

I’ve got 8gb ddr2, amd Athlon 270, 750ti. I’m saving up to build a new pc. Can I build a good system for £800? I need to to run Premiere Pro smoothly.

[@policecat225]

Jake Hockley make sure you have fast ram though

[@skippingbear92]

Yeah for sure@@JakeHockley

[@skippingbear92]

yeah that ram i had back then didnt oc at all with the mobo i had. that system died a few years ago now. i had bought a used mobo on ebay was suprised that it had lasted as long as it did@@policecat225​

[@petercruz1993]

Ryzen 2600: $120 Mobo: $55 Ram: $35 240gb SSD: $30 Used rx 570: $90 Case and PSU: $60 Total: $390 Screen & keyboard mouse combo: $125

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

Noice

[@danogh2227]

How's it performing? I wanna build something similar to this

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

@@danogh2227 My 2600 runs at 4.2 GHz and I've got a slightly OCed 580 Nitro... a small step above Peter's system, runs any new game at 60 fps on med-high settings, slightly older games close to max, found one game(deus ex: MD) from 4 years ago that wouldn't run well at Ultra settings, but it had shit optimization so take with a grain of salt. Great multitasking, good upgrade from my dead 4790k.

[@danogh2227]

@@auturgicflosculator2183 Thanks for the info!

[@petercruz1993]

Wszystko jedno it’s a good system. Everything in it works really well. If you want to upgrade the monitor and graphics card they are the only parts that need it. The rest of the system is solid for a long time

[@trevorromney3589]

It's also important to look at expectations of the gear. If you want something that will play games better than a PS4, all you need to beat is an AMD FX 6300 and an HD7870. You can do that for $300ish. A ryzen 3 1200 and RX 570 is a significant performance step up from that.

[@freggo6604]

Glad you liked the 1660... mine is on a UPS truck as we speak :-)

[@TechWithSean]

Budget gaming PCs are arguably the MOST worth it. ✌️

[@albiss1164]

Always mention that when having both a SSD and a HDD then it becomes easy to make backups. Yep, BACKUPS! =)

[@Preston_Rowe]

waiting a bit longer and not buying the cheapest option there out there is really the way to go since it will last longer, more upgradeable, and it feels rewarding to save up a bit more and finally get that new PC you worked so hard for

[@lBonaCl]

TL;DR; Buy things by considering which of them you can reuse them in later builds. This will add initial cost, but it will make upgrades cheaper in the future. After you've bought the components, make sure you enable XMP/DOCP to avoid boot issues, especially on Ryzen. Long version: There are things that you can also budget: ( My comments are in these ) - The case you get will be easily transferred over every cycle you get, so I would get a case that supports full ATX motherboards, even if I went with a mATX build. ( I bought a Antec 1200 v2 back in 2007-2009 and I am still using it, I've had to replace the fans, but that was for looks more than function. I am not saying you need the case to be expensive, but one with decent airflow and enough room will allow you to use it for multiple builds afterwards with no real issues. ) - The power supply should be the thing that you spend most of your time researching. The PSU is the thing you want to not be the weakest link, when the other parts are all that you can afford at that point. ( A bad PSU will burn everything else, a good PSU will usually just kill itself and nothing else. A quality PSU will usually also have a longer warranty provided by the manufacturer. ) - Initial system needs 400W PSU? Just buy a 550W or 650W to have more headroom in case you can afford to get a GPU upgrade. ( This will also help with avoiding PSU degradation by not pushing it to it's maximum at all times. ) - A cheap CPU cooler will be "an extra cost", but I would personally absolutely buy a decent air cooler that was quieter than the stock cooler. This is also something you can most likely reuse with your next rig. ( Something like the Cooler Master Hyper 212X will go a long way on both AMD and Intel, AMD being the top tier in cooler compatibility: sockets from AM2 to AM4 should fit the same brackets! And personally, the quieter the computer is under load, the more "premium" it feels. ) - If you get a motherboard and initially buy 2x 4GB sticks, you can just slap 2x 8GB sticks afterwards in there as long as they are the same speed and latency. ( I know, this is not recommended - but I've had many PCs with mixed manufacturer, model, capacity and latencies that have been fine with it. ) - Configure the XMP / AMD equivalent memory settings on your rig when you've built it! Especially on Ryzen! ( A buddy of mine had intermittent cold boots because the automatic timing settings failed 3 out of 4 boots causing the system to do double and triple boots until it found timings that were near enough. Fixed by applying RAM profiles in the BIOS. )

[@jerryhou9085]

You are forgetting that Ryzen is extremely RAM sensitive. Having dual channel 3200 is a day and night difference to single channel 2400

[@carwashsoap]

Yea I was hoping he would mention that

[@Krushaaak]

It makes huge difference even with intel cpus.

[@TheUltimateBlooper]

I'm sitting with quad-channel 2400MHz 4x16GB with my 5960X. Not sure I'd benefit at all from better. Already had my snake oil with the M.2 drives (my experience and testing = you don't need one for OS, work and gaming as there is no difference in load times anyway), so not buying into the bullshit again.

[@vasilije94]

If you are on a budget and you buy ryzen 3, it wont fucking mater.... Literally, there is always a guy like you that doesnt think and just puts the "actually" comment.

[@notmirelnam248]

@@TheUltimateBlooper I am curious. I only have experience with hard drives and low end SATA SSDs. Some M.2 SSDs such as the WD Blue are still only SATA and thus not any quicker than a 2.5 SATA SSD. M.2 only refers to the form factor for these models. Did you get SATA or NVME? If your experience was with NVME, then I think I made the right call with my 2.5 SATA.

[@HipH0pSamurai]

I used a single core amd sempron with gt210 and 2gb ram for almost a decade, around december 2018 I finally decided to upgrade my build and chose a budget Ryzen 3 2200g build. I live in India so even this 'budget' build is kinda expensive and counts as a mid-range gaming pc. So, I used that system completely satisfied with its performance in all games but I wanted to play newer AAA games so I saved up some money and bought a used Sapphire RX 570 Nitro+ 4gb and it works so well. I get around 50-60 fps medium-high settings on all recent games and that is more than enough for me. Conclusion? Getting a budget build is completely worth it but build it in such a way that it offers as much upgradability as possible. I first bought a GPU for my build and now I'm planning on adding another 8 gigs of ram or some more storage if needed

[@wing0zero]

Nice little build dude, I bet it's a beast next to your old one.

[@rnkp9389]

how much did u pay for rx 570 and where did u buy it from?

[@HipH0pSamurai]

@@rnkp9389 10k INR for slightly used from OLX

[@prateekkarn9277]

Builds are so expensive, and rx570 is more expensive than gtx1050ti! I kinda hate that whatever is in dollar is literally doubled and then sold in India. Honestly gaming laptops have better value but ofc upgradability and no sense of satisfaction for your build :(

[@attomannen]

@@prateekkarn9277 GTX 1050TI is about the half performance than the RX570

[@azcarth1125]

To branch off of the point on CPUs for gaming, it depends on the genre of games you play. Open world games put a lot of work on the cpu so if you like to play rockstar games or mmorpgs, get a higher core count cpu like a Ryzen 5 or 7 or i5 or i7. If you’re like me and use Linux and game on virtual machines, get more ram and at least an 8 core cpu

[@christiandewith2569]

just build a pc specs are: Amd ryzen 2600x corsair 100x radiator trident z 16gb 3200 evga 2070 rtx black msi b450 pro carbon ac 3 pack masterfans from coolermaster 550w bronze rated power supply in the nzxt h500i

[@Infinitheta]

So what didi it cost? 1000-1200?

[@rayyanp5472]

You don’t need the aio

[@akar2637]

The cooler is unnecessary to be honest, you could've gone with AMD Ryzen 2700x with the price of that AIO. Although I understand that you want better temperatures, but the stock cooler is fine on Ryzen 2600x.

[@electronicchronic9324]

I love your videos Jay. You speak the truth while being educational. Keep up the good work! Hope you're all well!

[@JumperBloX]

When I see that TITAN RTX PC transition I was like "Finally, inner peace.."

[@emu071981]

I always recommend at least a 240GB SSD. Depending on your use case you can even get away with just the SSD and not worry about a HDD. In my opinion, 120GB is just too small for a system drive.

[@outtheredude]

SSD wear is also a thing, where an SSD lasts longer if it has more free memory cells to write on.

[@andrewcowing9141]

I honestly think my pc is good for being budget. My budget was $5000 dollars.

[@mrluna69]

Lmao

[@TheGameBench]

Hell, Sandisk is selling a 240GB SSD for $30. Just bought one for a customer on Amazon.

[@FindecanorNotGmail]

Beware that cheap SSDs can often have low TBW per GB. That can be OK for long-term storage. Less suitable for a system disk.

[@TheGameBench]

Sure, and they also tend to be slower. However, for $30 what would you expect? It's low cost drive for someone on a tight budget and for the O/S you're better off with the SSD anyways. Regardless of longevity, you should be backing up anything important. Even the best of drives can die without warning. Also, this drive will outlast the build it's put in as the parts in it will become obsolete long before the drive craps out.

[@boondogglet132]

I made the choice on budget and tried to stay in the middle of the road, balancing price and short term value. I expect to have to start upgrading in the next year or so. But i have not had a pc since vista was a thing so i overspent on a custom build until i could develop a small personal workshop and become more familiar with modern tech.

[@waynefilkins8394]

How I do a budget build: Go to Ebay. Get a board like the msi x470 gaming plus for ~80 (use auctions and check their feedback. bid at last couple seconds) same with ryzen 1600, ~80. GTX 1060 6gb ~$130 (auctions) or with lower budget 1060 3gb is like $100 actually less I think. evo plus 970 m.2 $50 for 250gb. This builds an absolute beast of a system. Just make sure you have a 500w + psu, get a cheap case (I have an old cosmos II I got for $130 on ebay back when they costed like $300+ I now use it every time I upgrade as it is the most beautiful case I have ever seen and will be my case for life. If I didn't have that or the $$ to get one, i'd just go $20 or something on ebay for cheap case. I got 16gb of g.skill rijaws 3200hz ram for like $70 but you can go cheaper with that too, especially if you watch facebook marketplace for a few weeks. For my last build I got 24GB of ripjaws ddr3 for like $20 on there. FYI if you buy a used gpu I highly recommend new thermal paste. Mine was used to mine bitcoin and as long as the card works you're okay, just check the thermal paste immediately. Mine was running hot when I got it (~91C on benchmark) so I replaced the paste and now it's like 70C max OVERCLOCKED. If anyone has trouble getting a decent PC just comment here and I will help you out. I have been rebuilding my computer since the early 2000's and I always keep it fast enough to do everything I do (gaming, machine learning, web browsing, programming, video editing, etc.) and I really don't put a lot of money into it. I can help you get a beast PC for very little $$. Just reply here if you need help and when I see it I will reply back. Not selling anything just trying to help folks out who don't have a lot of $$ but want nice benchmarks for low $$

[@mab2187]

I have a GTX 960 4GB, Asus Maximus Hero 7 motherboard, Intel I7 4790K @4 GHz CPU, 16GB DDR3 ram I think (can't confirm, but I think it is), 80GB SSD, 2TB hard drive. I got this P.C in Sep 2016 so almost 3 yrs old now. I want to upgrade 1 part at a time. So what do you recommend I upgrade next.

[@waynefilkins8394]

@@mab2187 The biggest thing is usually getting an ssd, but that's good that you have one. 80gb is a bit small, so I recommend larger. If you're okay with 80gb ssd, then well it really depends on what you do with your PC. If you're like me, and use it for machine learning and 1-2 hours of gaming per day (or if you game a lot) I would get a 1060 6gb. It also depends on your budget, but i'd go better gpu. Otherwise, find out your ram frequency because a) a lot of people get high frequency ram but they don't set it in bios, so you may be able to raise it in bios, or b) you might have shit ram like

[@waynefilkins8394]

That board also does SLI, so if you could get another of the same gpu for a good deal you might be able to run them with SLI. I know nothing about this and have never done it, but if you google it do some research and make sure the cards support it and check benchmarks because it might be cheaper just to sell your card used and get a better one used. Just something to look into if you want.

[@DocRye1228]

I recently built my 1st gaming rig. Can you give me a good upgrade path so that I don't have to replace everything in the near future? Plan to upgrade after 5 yrs. Thank you. My current build is: I5 9400f Zotac rtx 2060 6gb amp Asus b360m tuf T-force delta 2x8 2933mhz Seasonic +80 bronze fully modular Cheap cube case w/ some rgb fans 250 gb ssd 1 tb hdd Asus vg258q 144hz 1ms 1080p

[@waynefilkins8394]

@@DocRye1228 I don't know the Intel technology as well as AMD, so i'm not sure how long your mb will stay relevant. You have a really good build. Every MB has limitations, and the hard part about replacing the MB is that you often have to replace the processor and ram as well. This is the case for amd so i'll just assume it is for intel as well. You can upgrade anything you want but the cpu and ram will be limited to your MB. If you want to find out any sort of (slight) bottleneck in the next few years, use something like novabench and compare your benchmarks to other systems. If a specific part is performing lower, like the gpu, or the ram, then upgrade just that part. Whenever you buy a part just look at your motherboard's compatibility list. Once you have the best cpu for your mb, that will probably be pretty solid for 5-10 years tbh unless some crazy new tech. comes out, but otherwise if you want to upgrade past that, time for new mb and probably new cpu and ram as well. Sorry i'm not much help, you just have a really good PC and it will still be pretty good 5 years from now :)

[@mra.cortez3553]

A gaming PC build should start with the monitor. It cost much more to build a 4K gaming PC vs a 1080p PC. Half of the total budget should go to the GPU needed to drive the monitor you have.

[@olliveraira6122]

If you look for monitors from smaller brands, you can get a unused monitor really cheap sometimes

[@MrBbendiksen]

Yep yep, pick your monitor, research what it takes to run near cap, and that's more or less your build.

[@thisisbunnygaming8921]

No one games on 4K?

[@ken-yo2hz]

@Brother Ares you're still right anyways, CPU imo > GPU in terms of priority. your CPU determines your overclocking ability and in general every day uses that could be restricted

[@Kxadd]

But don't forget to mention that 4K is totally NOT worth it. Not even the 2080ti is a "safe" card for that resolution... 1440p is the actual best.

[@spacetators5721]

what about the power supply

[@ofrenic]

Buy a decent brand. Id also recommend going a little above what you need. Like if your system is going to need 450w, buy 500w

[@kalamees]

I made mistake. Needed 400, bought 450, and then bought new gpu and had to buy 550w psu

[@scottmurphy4946]

you never want a PS that just meets the required needs as it will be working at full load more, creating heat, noise and will not last long

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

Seagate Focus Gold fully modular 450 W, got JonnyGuru's stamp of approval as the best in its price range. Good fit for any system not using insanely power hungry parts, lots of overhead for OCing medium budget parts. Works well with my R5 2600 @ 4.2, RX 580 Nitro @ 1517c/2050m.

[@Trainmaster909]

Just get a 700W power supply

[@ThatBlueScrew]

i think many people upgrade their systems during summer because of the usual hiatus of big game releases during that time. most releases are in fall or winter, so people prepare for their favorite upcoming games

[@mcunner]

I always buy something then it goes on special a month later 🤣

[@SkepticalCaveman]

Hardware looses value very fast. That's the reason I stopped buying new hardware. Second hand hardware gives so much bang for the buck.

[@stefanocarlocelsi1705]

jayz you forgot power supply

[@sobafps]

👏budget👏dosent👏mean👏cheap👏

[@donitmyself8935]

I'm hearing a challenge in this video. Lowest cost recycle build possible. Who can build a bootable PC for the least amount of retail cost. Which one has best benchmark. I'm talking cardboard boxes, PVC plumbers water-cooled, soda bottle water tank, used PC parts and the works.

[@brunorca]

I'm waiting for that $0 case! You got me interested.

[@cdreid99999]

theres zero reason not to be using the same case you used 15 years ago.

[@CPowell133]

2:35 - Yeet....I see what you did Phil

[@rayyanp5472]

CPowell133 Or the rx580...

[@CarolusBuchwurm]

Let me summarize: 1. don't pay for motherboard components you'll never use or can't use by stupid design 2. if you want to upgrade your RAM buy single sticks of higher capacity now to by more later 3. don't pair high end graphics cards with low end processors 4. buy a decent graphics card of mid-tier if you can afford it. They are good value and can last you a while into the future usually. 5. Do not overspend on RAM. Take the cheapest you can find 6. Choose storage memory according to needs 7. Buy cheapest case your eyes can take looking upon. I would personally add: 8: go with AM4 motherboard right now and buy a decent motherboard maybe even with some slight overclocking potential. That way you'll be able to upgrade at least 1-2 generations of CPUs and if they slow you down, squeeze some more performance out of them.

[@gamerdweebentertainment1616]

Also don't go for cheapest case, because no case would be better, less suffering when building, if you're going to do it yourself of course.

[@call_me_stan5887]

PSU, man ;)

[@swingking08]

Budget builds are not budget in Australia, shits so expensive here haha

[@alexandrumihai5710]

I remember Paris Hilton having a t-shirt that said something in the lines "Stop being poor!"

[@hektortechtips7658]

I was building a PC for a friend and he wanted to use a gtx 1060 6gb, and i Said yes because it was mid Range and he couldnt aford a 1070 by that time . One and a halv months later the rtx 2060 relesed... both of is regret buying that 1060. And thats Why You should read the tech news.

[@DANGERprone98]

Fix me the fortnite skin

[@meinacco]

Now i want to see the cardboard box sleeper PC build. Jay, Just do it!

[@Ryzilience]

9:09 got the same exact 1050 from msi. Decent card to this day yet i can't play Apex legends at ultra but at low it plays ultra fine :) Saving up for a new PC with an RTX card! If you are on a cheap budget and can't pay over like $600 then the MSI 1050 OC Dual fan or Single fan is the GPU for you and AMD FX8350 which is comparable to new budget CPU's or a 4300

[@travisretriever7473]

Makes sense. It sounds like a balance between: the CPU, GPU, Monitor, and RAM is what's needed. Don't go crazy on one unless you're planning on going crazy with the others. Is the take away I'm getting here. Both from this video *and* from my personal experience. n.n

[@exe16]

Budget builds are worth it only in one case, in my opinion. That case is when you use the PC for basic use, probably have no use for a laptop (you can work with a tablet if at all) and only play esports games that run for like a dozen years without many changes. If you actually game consistently, the sweetspot is a mid-high end PC (think XX60-XX70 series from Nvidia), which will run well current games without need for an upgrade too soon. You can usually skip a generation of graphics card if you're willing to run games on lower settings. And upgrade CPU once every 2 graphics cards or so.

[@Erowens98]

You can probably skip a generation and still game on high/ultra settings in most games if you go for an xx70, depending on your monitor of course.

[@jasonu3741]

dedicate yourself to building a new Mid-Range PC every 4 years and do not allow yourself to become impatient and buy any upgrades for that build. I generally do a 1000$ system every 4 years and think of it as saving 75 cents a day from build to build. This has allowed me to go from a HD Radaeon 6950 in 2010 to a GTX 970 in 2014 to a RX590 in 2018 always having a good PC for gamming and never noticing the cost. this has also always allowed me to sell my old PC 350-400 everytime.

[@melonheadthecherrybomb5886]

Bit of an odd idea, but what about using used xeon workststions abd putting a GPU in that way? Sure you will need to buy more of the system later, but I guess those machimes can hold up for awhile.

[@karmA2q]

No mention of PSU? You're slippin' Jay!

[@CrestDriven]

i think its worth it. as long as you future proof it. so you are able to upgrade it when you get the money/ need too.

[@gedoumazoutsuki]

thks dude you've cleared my head, see guyz, this is why you document yourself and watch 1000 a videos before a project!!

[@theunholybakery1990]

Bought an i9 9900k, a really good mobo and psu. 32gb ram and a 970 evo plus. But no gpu...

[@zele]

9900k has an integrated gpu you know

[@MonkeyDLuffy-id3pl]

you can buy gpu later btw but if u dnt have money on gpu to spend on gpu then u made a mistake

[@glenwaldrop8166]

Honestly, I can play all of the Arkham series perfectly @ 720p except Arkham Knight with my i5 6300hq integrated video. My laptop has a 960m, but if gaming on battery that's like 30w vs nearly 70-80w when using the 960m. It won't play the big titles but it will play the big titles from 2015 even. I was impressed for it being an integrated GPU. Fallout 4 is playable. It isn't as fast as my backup laptop's 460m, but it's very decent for an iGPU.

[@frederikmolenkamp1850]

just a random guy who likes stuff you shouldve get a 100-200 dollar mobo, 16 gb ram and a i7 8700k. You probably couldve get a 1660 ti/vega 56 or rtx 2060

[@tburch82]

Make sure to get a quality psu, I learned that the hard way.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Power SUpply? Yeah, mine exploded (a little bit) and fried my mainboard and processor. I needed new ones anyway.

[@abdulwasay9]

mY CoRsAiR vS 650 iS ThE BeSt PsU eVeR

[@framelessly]

@@schwarzerritter5724 "exploded a little bit" Suurrrree (Joke btw)

[@prokeep_chick9922]

Is bronze standard quality psu?

[@scubasteve5659]

what do yall think about spending $30 on evga's midweek madness bstock sales? I ordered a 850watt bronze semi modular for $30 the only thing wrong w it was looked like someone started to peel off the evga sticker in the center of the fan grill and then realized they shouldn't because it was a really thick sticker with a ton of glue under it and returned it to evga or something, but I cleaned it up real nice with alcohol lol, hope it doesn't fuck my shit up

[@andresvaldevit3692]

This is the whole reason why I’m always backing away from custom built PCs. I’m not swimming in cash to make mistakes and buying crap that could have choosen better. That’s why gaming laptops always entice me more, in the worst case I’ll resell it in 2 years and get a whole new one (not happening of course, it’s going to last me at least 4-5 years, if not more)

[@jblps]

3:20 *Non-K overclocking has entered the chat*

[@NerfWarsJuelich]

"ryzen really benefits from higher clocked ram" "dont buy better ram" ...so do i upgrade or not? (budget allows for it)

[@radeemer1]

I'd say its worth it, if you can find some on sale. I would at least look for ddr4 2666 or 3000. Newegg email deals usually have some of this RAM on sale every week. RAM prices have also dropped a lot so its not too bad. But always check the reviews to see if the ram overclocks well on AMD or not. Some of them don't run at the rated speeds . But what always helps more than faster ram is more ram. get 16GB slow RAM vs 8GB fast ram. unless you plan on adding another kit soon.

[@Trainboy1EJR]

Buy used Intel i5 and 16gb slow ram, over and done. XD Although if you're determined to go AMD, you'll need the fastest ram you can buy to make up for buying an AMD CPU.

[@bilibull1]

@@Trainboy1EJR "if you're determined to go AMD, you'll need the fastest ram you can buy to make up for buying an AMD CPU." It's not really to make up for it, more like take advantage of it. Intel really doesn't show much benefits or good utilization from ram due to paying things to be optimized for their ecosystem. AMD on the other hand just now started to get more support from other areas and really likes to utilize RAM. But hey, that my two cents :P

[@georgeg.1066]

Update your mobo's BIOS to the newest version, and check your mobo's QVL list for compatible RAM. If you buy RAM that isn't on the QVL, i) you may be the lucky one, and your system will work just fine or ii) you may be me, that bought a ripjaws 5 kit for my 2200g build. The kit was never fully stable at 3200 (not even on 3000 or 2800). I had to reduce the frequency to 2400.

[@Trainboy1EJR]

@@bilibull1 when AMD still has slower single threaded performance, you have to use the fastest ram to close the single threaded performance gap that would be even farther apart using slower ram. Single threaded = gaming performance. Streaming = AMD, Just Gaming = Intel. That is my opinion on the matter.

[@nathangamble125]

If you have only 2 RAM slots, your best option is probably to buy 2 RAM sticks, then sell them when you upgrade.

[@LeBronyaJames]

Due to Newegg being closed, it might be a little more difficult. But Newegg has Import Tax which actually makes the price shoot up. I realistically have like a €300 (roughly the price of a PS4 now) budget

[@ThomFrost]

You should do a pairing of CPU and GPU. You kind of touched on it with the i3 and the 1050. I would love to see what CPU would work best with a certain GPU. Sort of compare and say x CPU works best with x GPU and does not drop frames. I know that some would give you better fps at 1080 vs 4k. I doubt a i3 and 1050 would be able to push 4k with 60fps or better. For testing the minimum fps should be 60 at 2 or 4k.

[@thereddog223]

1050 would probably be 30 or less on 4k

[@philipcooper8297]

@@thereddog223 1070Ti is like 30fps in 4K today,

[@philipcooper8297]

CPUs are not efected by the screen resolution. For a CPU 4K is the same load as 480p, if the frame rate stays the same (vsync 60Hz).

[@prateekkarn9277]

@@philipcooper8297 which also is equal to 2060ti cuz that thing gives 1070ti performance

[@thereddog223]

@@philipcooper8297 With most games, you are probably right. I haven't played any of the newer games. My 1070 can get 50 on 4k with games a few years old

[@FlintWestMetal21]

i just built a budget gaming PC for 270.00 with a Ryzen 3 2200G and an RX550 4GB and it runs games in 2K resolution at 60FPS. if you do some research and look in the right places you can definitely put together a pretty solid machine for a pretty solid price. you also cant be too afraid to go second hand with some stuff either, the rate at which people upgrade their GPUs is astounding, and makes it really easy to pick up a "used" GPU for pretty cheap.

[@smokeinc9800]

almost same build but mine with rx 580 around $300 actually my rx 580 was used cpu and mobo new and ram psu was from my old and hdd so around$300 o have a ryzen build and rx 580 sweet

[@FallerzNexus]

Ain’t everyone on a budget?

[@insanity1156]

Pretty sure m not

[@omegadaboi]

l0l

[@dontdropthesoapdontdropthe1045]

@I'm Beavis heh heh whats is a kardashian?

[@Klasus357]

These days luckily with a 500-600$ budget you can make a good gaming PC above the expectations, especially if you just play eSports games that aren't so heavy for reach easy 100-140fps in 1080 and maybe more heavy games with 60-120fps. Jay shows that even if you hit or slam the pieces they will be alright :D it happens to me sometimes with screws or pieces to hit the motherboard and im worried if will be ok and still works.

[@diegodriesens8184]

Im back. and i bought my new pc Amd ryzen 5 2600 Gtx 1660 6gb 16gb corsair 3000 ram 1tb hard drive 240gb m.2 550 watt corsair psu

[@Apple-iy6xk]

how dare you build a nice non Mac!? Tim Cook is sad :-(

[@xoticsaucyy1695]

What Frames You getting ?

[@diegodriesens8184]

@@xoticsaucyy1695 on what games.

[@ElevatedMiata]

You would be better buying a radeon

[@diegodriesens8184]

@@ElevatedMiata Nvidea has a better experience imo