2010/05/26 Two balks lead to two ejections

CWS@CLE: Two balks lead to Guillen, Buehrle ejections

[@rvhx7213]

You know it's bad when you have Joe West, and Angel Hernandez umpiring a game

[@nicetry6842]

I love you videos keep up the great work!

[@joshjhutton]

Yes. Angel Hernandez is horrible.

[@garybernd3567]

no kidding. awful crew

[@midnyte_tv]

Such a disgrace....

[@flipflipflipadelphia2898]

it did look like a balk

[@TaterChip91]

"He needs a rest...he needs a rest." Lmao

[@jonathanashbeck3740]

It appears that Hawk wasn't a fan of Joe West.

[@danielstack4158]

@@jonathanashbeck3740 They actually made peace since then, believe it or not.

[@kevinvanmeter2264]

@@jonathanashbeck3740 And West wasn't a fan of Hawk.

[@karlricker3291]

Joe West has just done one hell of a job!!

[@anthonybaratta6152]

Hawk harrelson… the absolute biggest homer and the best play by play guy… and I’m not even a white Sox fan

[@tributevocalist]

I remember this game. The one thing I can remember strongly from this was West standing there with his arms crossed. What a punk.

[@codycooper2261]

Well he knows he untouchable…no matter what calls he makes, no matter what he does, he can never get into trouble

[@borderjumper2202]

@@codycooper2261 So he can get away with all those children epstein set him up with? Wow america is fucked

[@700Ezalb]

@@codycooper2261 Joe West actually was fined by the MLB for what he did in this game! Should've been suspended, but at least there was some accountability here

[@islandblader]

Hawk Harrelson was hilarious here about Joe West.

[@user-vt1ss2zt6s]

Joe West AND Angel Hernandez ????? Oh dear God.

[@thee_morpheus]

'Nooo god....no god please no...NO...NO...NOOOOOOOOO'

[@patrickgray5633]

Together on the same crew they are a baseball virus.

[@iankelly488]

I went to a series between the Orioles and blue jays and both where there god damn they sucked

[@kenconnelly773]

Patrick Gray maybe MLB was trying to limit the damage done to just one game

[@tomxconn]

Joe and Angel have now both stepped down. There’s hope for our game after all

[@jefsiv]

Just imagine the reaction if this game had been in Chicago.

[@Fireteam2479]

Disco Demolition would have been eclipsed in carnage. Lol.

[@error404usernamenotfound2]

@@Fireteam2479 And that’s underselling it

[@ck-1649]

Or Philly

[@anthonycristofani6856]

You gotta love Hawk

[@ericmaffeo903]

People may not like Hawk, but he is certainly entertaining to listen to every now and then.

[@Capecrusader79]

Wow! Joe West, and Angel Hernandez on the same crew. Where was C.B. Buckner? That would have completed the hall of fame crew.

[@richerdchikosky7558]

Or Laz Diaz

[@thedonleroy]

It must be a nightmare when you realize you have Joe West & Angel Hernandez both umping your game.

[@camkraw893]

You know it's bad when angel Hernandez is the calm mediator between players and ump

[@rileighgaler4466]

Lol this is nice we've got hawk commentating and joe west umpiring 😂😂

[@rrmond]

A balk for every chin Joe has.

[@israelgonzalez8046]

rrmond but it was only 2 balks and not 500 😝

[@vexxevxevvex2622]

I miss Ozzie so much

[@jimtrack3786]

With you brother!

[@Decetop]

Hawk was so right. Even before that game Joe West had been the biggest, fattest joke in baseball for years.

[@MarkYoder]

The first balk is very tough to tell because of the camera angle. The second balk shows Buehrle from behind (3B angle). His R leg does NOT go directly (or anywhere close to directly) towards 1B.

[@Absolutely_Wartorn]

"He is becoming a joke to the profession" HA Joe West, awesome

[@maxberglind3275]

The date is September 28th, 2021. Joe West has announced he is retiring after the 2021 season. He is finally getting his suspension. Life is good.

[@sean6975]

Joe West and Angel Hernandez, enough said...but the Sox announcers took it to a whole new level.

[@robbase5235]

Nothing wrong with defending your team, but Hawk did go overboard.

[@kenconnelly773]

The MLB took it to the next level when they put Hernandez and West on the same field.

[@jonathanashbeck3740]

He certainly did when Mark Wagner ejected Jose Quintina which caused Hawk to furiously lash out which led to him being reprimanded by then commissioner Bud Selig

[@TheGrizNation]

Really didn't see a balk there.

[@222333aaaaaa]

Bc it wasnt

[@CHilla415]

Jason Lange balks can definitely be tricky. I GUESS I can see the second one as being called a balk, but probably not the first one.

[@222333aaaaaa]

Yea, when I think "thug" I immediately think Mark Buehrle... smh

[@tmoney0925]

222333aaaaaa Oh yeah. "Thug" or "Hooligan".

[@Subangelis]

+CHilla415 Can't tell the first one (not a good camera angle shown), but the second was definitely a balk. He didn't step towards first base, but more towards the dugout (between home & first).

[@shawnkadlubowski660]

Angel hernandez and joe west wow terrible crew

[@dannymaguire879]

Two guys that couldn't find their own ass with both hands and a flashlight. I tend to think Angel Hernandez is the worst but Jaba West maybe a close second.

[@brettfavor4026]

the pitcher can step at a 45 degree angle anything over that 45 degree line he has to go home

[@dallyplaysgames]

I shutter at the thought of those two working together

[@zachh2236]

don't forget balking bob

[@josephpretorius6187]

***** they should only be doing little league games

[@chickennoodlesoup901]

Having a rule book and knowing the rules is one thing, actually making the right call is another.

[@TheCorrectAnswer56]

I miss Hawk rants

[@kaboom-zf2bl]

yes BOTH pitches were balks ... he was set in his stance and his forward leg did NOT go towards the first base it went halfway between the plate and base ... which is a balk ... you only get a 15eg leeway ... he was more than 30 deg away from first ...

[@benjamineisenbraun8166]

I don't blame Mark Buehrle fir being upset. That is a horrible call.

[@amyannshipyor4096]

Chicago loves Hawk. He was very passionate about the game and held his emotions on his sleeves. ⚾️😊⚾️

[@jskf622]

Does the Umpire even know what a balk is?

[@amyannshipyor4096]

Chicago loves Ozzie and mark. Hopefully mark will be in the hall of fame soon. ⚾️

[@louisholley5450]

I'm not even a White Sox fan but that was not a balk and Buerhle and Guillen should not have been tossed

[@IamDeathtaker98]

The only reason that I think, not fully sure but, Guillen got tossed was because you are not allowed to argue a balk under any circumstances

[@119Agent]

IamDeathtaker98 or throw your equipment down.

[@Rowgue51]

They were both balks. He brought his knee back across the pitching rubber on both moves. And both ejections were mandatory. Arguing a balk and throwing equipment are automatic ejections per the rule book.

[@nickk6501]

@@Rowgue51 those were not balks. He brought his leg toward first base. He also turned his body. You can tell he pivoted because his move to home has him move forward with a full body motion. He clearly didn't move toward home. He used that exact pick off move his entire career.

[@Rowgue51]

@@nickk6501 They're balks because when he raised his leg he brought it back over the pitching rubber. Once that happens it's a balk if you don't deliver a pitch.

[@eascec8374]

I Remembered This As A Kid.

[@andrewbean24.2]

Hawk my man. Real shit! No bull. Love it

[@MarkYoder]

You're partially right. Motion toward the plate or any motion associated with throwing toward home that is used to deceive the runner is a balk. There is no "45 degree rule" in any rule code other than NCAA... and it is only a comment in the NCAA book.

[@korinek31]

You can clearly tell by the second call that it is indeed a balk. He moves toward home plate and towards first.

[@sean2015]

Maybe but the first one was not a balk. Andy Pettitte used to get away with worse than this in his years with the Yankees.

[@rawhydemusic8620]

Angel Hernandez and Joe West? That had to be the longest series for both teams.... Wow

[@dallyplaysgames]

Who could have it out for the nicest person in baseball

[@BCMMBC122333]

People are saying this is a balk. Its not. 1. He did not cross his foot over the rubber. 2. He steped to first he never went home. Thats just an awful call on both of them.

[@stevevaieatsrods]

Joe West is like Pizza the Hut with less baseball acumen.

[@1218jmm]

Notice Angel Hernandez AND Joe West on the same umpiring crew. You walk out on that field and see those two and you know someone's getting tossed....like gravity.

[@DuckOfRubber]

Joe West and Angel Hernandez on the same crew? God help us.

[@michaelkammer8329]

The only possible way I can see a balk is if his front foot crosses the 45° line, meaning he stepped more toward home plate than first base. Other than that I don’t see anything. And he’s the only one with that view and can call that particular infraction if that’s what it was.

[@Y2JWannabe93]

The last commentators made it seem like Mark went like Hulk on his glove smashing.

[@agentbillstoll6235]

I heard that I said either they are biased or out of their minds bc I did not get the "joke".

[@josiahlamb]

hE THroas DA GlovE DoWn!!!

[@rwdonkulus]

Here's the thing though, those were balks. He can't swing the right foot behind the rubber and then go to first.

[@marmac2768]

I have been an umpire for 30 years at all levels and have known Joe West for a long time. Something has come loose in his head because Joe is doing things that he used to teach us younger guys not to do! I've been to two of his clinics in Cocoa Beach at Joe Brinkmans school about 20 years ago and Joe was calm, cool and copacetic most of the time. He clearly baited both the pitcher and the manager. As for the balk, I didn't see it either and I have been known to be pretty picky about balks. On the first one, the runner was clearly caught off guard and that one could have been a balk. I really didn't get the angle that Joe had, but the second one, with the replay from behind him CLEARLY shows it should not have been called a balk!! He stepped just slightly to his right and that was okay. There is an "imaginary line" that runs from the pitchers plate to the halfway point of the baseline and the left hander can't swing that right foot over that line and then step to first base. That is a balk. I didn't see him come close to crossing that line. I really don't know what has become of Joe because of the past few years, he is getting less respect from the players and fans alike. Now, having said that, I do understand the the White Sox commentators calling the game are going to be rooting for the home team, but they do go overboard with their criticism of Joe. I would tell them to "just announce the game guys, just announce the game."

[@thelowmein9143]

Why not actually draw that line so these things can be reviewed?

[@marmac2768]

+The Lowmein I know what you are saying, but it would be hard to draw a chalk line on grass. It's still judgment and, since the review rule was put in place a couple of years ago, the games are getting a little longer. Baseball is a pretty slow game as it is without having more possible reviews.

[@marmac2768]

Sorry, the only time you use paint is on artificial surfaces. About 99% of baseball fields in this country are on natural surfaces, so they would use chalk. Paint wouldn't last any time on clay.

[@marmac2768]

I wasn't talking about the grass, I was talking about the basepaths. You CAN'T paint dirt and have it last long at all. That's why you use chalk.

[@marmac2768]

Yep, the foul line on the grass past first and third base is painted to the foul pole. But, in the infield, nothing is painted, the basepaths are chalked.

[@Drew-wo6xr]

What balk?! There ain't no balk here

[@brady13001]

Both were balks but for different reasons. The second one was a balk because his leg came back. the first one was a balk because of his front shoulder. Nothing to do with his leg. The 1B & HP umpire are both looking at the leg and the front shoulder. The moment the front shoulder starts coming towards the plate he also has to pitch. A lot of fans think that for lefties the front leg is the only thing umpires look at. It is a huge point of emphasis but it's not the only one. The front shoulder which (I'm not being a smartass here) most fans can't see and dont pay attention too is just as relevant. PS - I've been an umpire for 15 years. 2 years in the minor leagues, and since than I've done high school, adult and independent league ball. Hope that helps. .

[@robbase5235]

@@brady13001 Although I do not agree, that was the next explanation of this incident that I have ever read. Kudos to you. Also, I'm just a fan, and you've umped as high up as the minors, so I admit that you obviously have more knowledge than I do in this case.

[@DisappearingBoy2010]

When I slowed it down, I do think the 2nd one was a balk. Looks like he did cross his back leg with his front and start forward towards home. It's close but I do think it was a balk.

[@haroldl.tubman4120]

The first one was tough to see from the camera angle but the second was not even close - BALK! And Guillen got tossed because you can't argue a balk and he was sheltering his pitcher.

[@robinhoodhustsle1356]

Ohh god is that angel too?

[@KurastWolf]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a balk is when a pitcher, during mid-wind up of a pitch, suddenly changes to throw at a base runner. And, correct me if I'm wrong, both times Buehrle was in the process of winding up, leg up. I understand the rule of "must step to the plate" but there are literally hundreds of pitchers who do not go through a nice big wind-up and then just turn to "pitch" at the bases.

[@dabearsraiders]

"It's gettin' to be about that time Joe West..." haha

[@BaseBallerBHS11]

I thought it was a balk, he never comes completely set. He's still fidgeting up until the point where he decides to toss to first base. Coming set and the pickoff/ pitch attempt have to be 2 separate motions

[@incrediblesulk555]

That right leg did go towards home in the second one. Hawk is great, such a homer.

[@HankFinkle11]

It’s really close. Freeze it. Not a balk 90 percent of the time.

[@sergeantsnooder9121]

It's the right call. The second one more so, he's already falling towards the plate before the pitch

[@MTVJake]

I know but I would rather have Hawk do the world series instead of Joe buck and mcarver.

[@thewhitt9215]

I LOVE COMMENTATORS LIKE THIS!! I hate it when commentators just sit in the middle and contemplate something when they REALLY know whats right or wrong but cant say it!

[@kentfletcher7532]

That's not a balk. And yes, Joe West is a joke.

[@condorc72]

2nd move definitely a balk

[@brady13001]

Both were balks but for different reasons. The second one was a balk because his leg came back. the first one was a balk because of his front shoulder. Nothing to do with his leg. The 1B & HP umpire are both looking at the leg and the front shoulder. The moment the front shoulder starts coming towards the plate he also has to pitch. A lot of fans think that for lefties the front leg is the only thing umpires look at. It is a huge point of emphasis but it's not the only one. The front shoulder which (I'm not being a smartass here) most fans can't see and dont pay attention too is just as relevant. PS - I've been an umpire for 15 years. 2 years in the minor leagues, and since than I've done high school, adult and independent league ball. Hope that helps. Best.

[@larsonmarkov1699]

2nd one was a balk.his foot went too fart toward home plate

[@enniswhalen2428]

M N - What was wrong with the shoulder? It is the FEET that trigger the balk call.

[@larsonmarkov1699]

First one wasn't a ball. The second was a a ball. His foot went too far toward the plate.he broke the 45 degree angle

[@jacobgraham4166]

You can't tell for sure because the video cuts after the start of the pitch but it looks like his foot crosses the rubber. That is what he called more than likely. Possibly though he said his foot passed the 45 degree line

[@marmac2768]

The first balk, I think that he did cross the imaginary line, but the second one, where the camera angle is better, shows that he didn't come close to a balk.

[@davidsirmon8425]

As an umpire, i think you are probably right.

[@gregb612]

It'll be a fine day for baseball if MLB was to get rid of Joe West, Angel Hernandez, Bob Davidson, and Mike DiMuro!

[@BDP1441]

shall we add ol' Jim Joyce to the list?

[@gregb612]

Jim Joyce is one of the best umpires in MLB. Even as a RedSox fan and RedSox Nation member since 99, I can admit that the obstruction call during the World Series was a good call. Sadly, even though he's been voted by players as the best umpire 4 or 5 years in a row, all fans are going to remember is the Gallaraga call.

[@BDP1441]

what about the blown call at home against the dodgers? I believe

[@gregb612]

Are you referring to him tossing Gonzalez or when Young missed the plate with his foot and was tagged on the arm and called out?

[@michaelhorvat9015]

Greg B Yeah, Jim joyce is a class act and a great umpire. Yeah, he made one really bad call to prevent a perfect game, but unlike most umpires, he owned up to it and apologized and was very upset afterwards about it.

[@braggeroni]

Leans don't matter; as long as you do not step TOWARDS home plate, it's not a balk.

[@alanhess9306]

braggeroni, leaning toward the plate is a balk. You have a lot to learn.

[@supercrossedup2873]

I like how the first baseman looks like he’s sneaking up on him lmaooo.

[@eradicator27]

Joe West & Angel Hernandez, SHOCKING!

[@goldensky382]

Who's here from Jomboy's breakdown?

[@orsonbrawl4529]

I am. I also remember watching this as it happened.

[@DASCO2136]

I’m just here to listen to the late Mike Hegen (One of the Indians broadcasters)

[@barneychan5571]

That wasn’t a balk. He stopped, and clearly stepped toward first base. Where’s the balk?

[@chuckcap6878]

Fine lines: Right leg past rubber and 45-degree angle between plate and 1st base.

[@jumperguy9867]

1. Watch back leg on first balk call. He moved it, then began his throw to 1st. BALK. 2. He was moving toward home and then tossed to 1st base. BALK. Buehrle tosses glove up in disgust. EJECTION!! Good calls.

[@nickk6501]

You're wrong on both "balk" accounts.

[@brundagematthew]

THANK YOU

[@altoid2971]

I'm loving these commentators!

[@islandblader]

Joe West deservesssssss a suspension, he needs a rest. He needs a rest!

[@dannythomas3671]

I couldn't agree more. Joe west is the worst ump. He gets the call right only 30% of the time. There's a whole video showing his worst calls.

[@BScottyJRL]

A treadmill is what he needs.

[@wewd]

Joe "Star of the Show" West, everyone.

[@eightminuspialpha]

I love it when commentators diss the umpires

[@mattjensen8759]

Ed Farmer: "another throw to first and gets called for a balk again" Darrin Jackson: "Oh that's ridiculous!"

[@arjanbhasin2326]

the fuck was the last commentator, "lucky he wasnt tossed last inning" WHAT! Look up controversial baseball calls and Joe West will have his name in all of them

[@ChessJew]

Cubs fan here, so no real interest in defending the White Sox. But Hawk's always an entertaining commentator. He's not supposed to be some neutral arbiter of truth - he's the hometown commentator, of course he's going to be a homer!

[@kylewilson2819]

Calling for an umpire to be suspended is way too far and completely unprofessional. But then again, being unprofessional is a calling card of Hawk. Hope he croaks soon

[@JuggaloSupreme]

@@kylewilson2819 - if someone consistently shows that they can't do their job, then it is perfectly reasonable to ask that they be removed from it. Would you want a doctor operating on you if they proved over and over that they were inept at their job? I don't even follow baseball that much and I have seen tons of videos with this fool blowing calls. He's getting paid and deciding outcomes of games based on his errors. Sounds like someone who needs a new job to me.

[@Cdawg816]

lol the whitesox announcer tells it how it is! lmao

[@spanky407]

The last one looked like it could have been a balk, but the angle isn't the best. Joe West is something else. Doing everything he can to get on TV, and to get his 5 minutes of fame.

[@BMWAddictE90]

Too bad umpires can't be ejected

[@YabuddyFilms]

Thinking the same thing

[@creepyoursmile1654]

There should be some sort of "citizens arrest" thing. Where if the umpires are being like this, the players/managers can eject him. At the *very* least the other umpires can step in and do something lol I mean, come on... "(wave, wave) No no, go away. I dont want to talk about what I might have done wrong. Youre not going back to the dugout? (ejects the manager)"

[@josephpretorius6187]

They think they have all the power in the world because they can eject they hide behind power, they don't care about umpiring the game right no pride

[@critter2]

Biggles McBumflap seriously? you people have no clue on the rules and think you do better job here my question if you can why aren't you out there doing it!

[@critter2]

Joseph Pretorius that a bs crap you know nothing about umpires

[@mattzech6610]

Joe West and Angel Hernandez on the field, I'm shocked that there was a bad call on the field. Said no one ever.

[@rickeyfuquayjr.9675]

I can't tell how those two were balks unless I'm blind

[@davidrooks3274]

then you are blind, OR you don't understand the rules

[@wantahappymeal]

David Rooks instead of insulting why not state why they were balks?

[@davidrooks3274]

@@wantahappymeal I did state why they were balks, when you break the plane of your knee with your foot(this means you bring the foot back past the knee) you MUST come home, and when you go to first you MUST step TOWARD first base, the first balk he brought his foot past his knee then threw to first, that's a balk, on the second when he went to first he stepped halfway between first and home, this is also a balk, I suggest you go back and watch the video again

[@ogbobbyjohnson175]

David Rooks the first one wasn’t a balk. Even the announcers and literally everyone else knew it wasn’t. His motion was towards first base. Complete legit pitch

[@davidrooks3274]

@@ogbobbyjohnson175 sigh, the move towards first wasn't why it was called a balk, try to keep up, when the pitcher starts his windup, if he brings his foot past his knee he MUST go home, that was why it was a balk

[@bryancaudill3341]

So you can't stand strait up while your stepping towards your base? Having to keep your shoulders in line with your base? Is this what I'm seeing?

[@TomO-if7nh]

Doesn't the MLB commisioner know that Joe West and Angel Hernandez should NOT be working anymore?

[@brady13001]

Both were balks but for different reasons. The second one was a balk because his leg came back. the first one was a balk because of his front shoulder. Nothing to do with his leg. The 1B & HP umpire are both looking at the leg and the front shoulder. The moment the front shoulder starts coming towards the plate he also has to pitch. A lot of fans think that for lefties the front leg is the only thing umpires look at. It is a huge point of emphasis but it's not the only one. The front shoulder which (I'm not being a smartass here) most fans can't see and dont pay attention too is just as relevant. PS - I've been an umpire for 15 years. 2 years in the minor leagues, and since than I've done high school, adult and independent league ball. Hope that helps. Best.

[@traderoex1]

Who were the two jokers at the end - the Indians announcers ? They couldn't even admit neither was a balk.

[@davidrooks3274]

because both WERE balks, if you bring your foot past the knee you MUST come home(1st balk) when you go to 1st you MUST step towards 1st, halfway between IS a balk

[@brady13001]

@@davidrooks3274 you're correct that both were balks but for different reasons. The second one was a balk because his leg came back. the first one was a balk because of his front shoulder. Nothing to do with his leg. The 1B & HP umpire are both looking at the leg and the front shoulder. The moment the front shoulder starts coming towards the plate he also has to pitch. A lot of fans think that for lefties the front leg is the only thing umpires look at. It is a huge point of emphasis but it's not the only one. The front shoulder which (I'm not being a smartass here) most fans can't see and dont pay attention too is just as relevant. PS - I've been an umpire for 15 years. 2 years in the minor leagues, and since than I've done high school, adult and independent league ball. Hope that helps. Best.

[@davidrooks3274]

@@brady13001 i agree that both were balks, as I stated, the angle was wrong on the first one, but as to the 2nd one, it was a balk due to where his right foot landed, there is a line at 45 degrees, the foot lands less than 45 degrees it is a valid move, it lands more than 45 degrees it is a balk

[@brady13001]

David Rooks I know about the 45 degree line I’m an umpire. One of those balks was due to his shoulder. That came straight from Jim Evans a few years ago an umpiring camp that those trying to get into college ball go too.

[@denelson83]

Yep, those were the Cleveland announcers. You could see the "WTAM" right there in the upper-right corner of the video.

[@davej3781]

1st one I sure can't tell, nothing about it looks like a balk in the video we see (but I suspect he crossed over given the reaction of the runner). 2nd pretty clearly is a balk - he crosses over, and gains ground towards the plate so you could get him for either one.

[@fluffynoses]

Lol the comments on this video are either trashing Joe West or Hawk Harrelson lmfao...sometimes both of them

[@JohnSmith-dr4nk]

I din't even think of the ratings part. You are completely right. They are fun, enjoyable, passionate, and they are profitable... :)

[@PotatRoboCop]

Is Joe west still umping?

[@Jvgga]

Yep just looked that up actually haha, after that call I thought maybe not

[@benjamineisenbraun8166]

I think so.

[@chuckcap6878]

wait until 2019---the fat f*k is still waddling around

[@davidgouin8420]

I don't know about the first one because of the angle of the replay. The second one is a balk all the way he was going towards the plate and then his throw went to first.

[@bamabum123456789]

everybody who says "obvious balks, good umpiring Joe" is either trolling or doesn't know baseball

[@brady13001]

Both were balks but for different reasons. The second one was a balk because his leg came back. the first one was a balk because of his front shoulder. Nothing to do with his leg. The 1B & HP umpire are both looking at the leg and the front shoulder. The moment the front shoulder starts coming towards the plate he also has to pitch. A lot of fans think that for lefties the front leg is the only thing umpires look at. It is a huge point of emphasis but it's not the only one. The front shoulder which (I'm not being a smartass here) most fans can't see and dont pay attention too is just as relevant. Again I dont mean this to be a smartass just in response. It's not an obvious balk to a lot of fans (even those who are lifelong fans) but to Umpires because of the way they're trained they were both obvious balks. PS - I've been an umpire for 15 years. 2 years in the minor leagues, and since than I've done high school, adult and independent league ball. Hope that helps. Best.

[@tigerguy1013]

Joe West called them, what a surprise

[@spire1214]

2nd one was definitely not a balk.

[@coolguy02536]

First one didn't seem like it either! What did he do there?

[@valadnane524]

Mike Hawk I wonder how Joe west got past 2nd grade if he can't read. A balk is when a pitcher starts their motion and stops it to throw out there runner. All Beurhle did was stick his hand into his glove. If I was Beuhrle I would have punched west's ugly face to disgraceville

[@zactressel8959]

You have them switched around..... Second WAS a balk, First WASNT a balk. Not really debatable either

[@spire1214]

Zac Tressel IDT either of them were.

[@valadnane524]

How was the Second a balk. All he did was turn around.

[@222333aaaaaa]

Wow! What a well-articulated, remarkable, insightful comment...please tell me more!

[@jimc6154]

What if this game was game 7 of the World Series....?? Joe West has some issues. The umpires of MLB have issues. They don't and will not call this in a playoff game.......WHY????

[@DAMNbyrnz35]

The thing is we didn't get to see a good angle of the first pitch. If is right knee crossed the plane his left knee made, that is a balk. The second time he was directed towards the plate, so there are no grounds for an argument. Balk #2.

[@tomevans5458]

Announcers are correct. Joe West is a joke! He is like the old man that lives on the street and tells everyone that you can't park in front of his house. The league should kick him to the curb ASAP!

[@durielroberts360]

thanks!!! I LOVE HAWK HARRELSON AND STEVE STONE!!!!

[@hbk314]

@@durielroberts360 Hawk Harrelson sounds like a drunk they pulled out of the stands, and he seems to have about the same level of baseball knowledge as well. Just because it's not balked consistently doesn't mean it's not a balk. After West balked him once, Buehrle should have been more careful.

[@julianchrobak-prince1915]

Joe West and Angel Hernandez: Top 10 Worst Anime Crossovers

[@Redskinsman4475]

West and Hernandez on the same crew? Talk about two crappy umpires. 😑

[@hbk314]

Two solid umpires, actually, but why let facts get in the way of KZbin comment?

[@brady13001]

Both were balks but for different reasons. The second one was a balk because his leg came back. the first one was a balk because of his front shoulder. Nothing to do with his leg. The 1B & HP umpire are both looking at the leg and the front shoulder. The moment the front shoulder starts coming towards the plate he also has to pitch. A lot of fans think that for lefties the front leg is the only thing umpires look at. It is a huge point of emphasis but it's not the only one. The front shoulder which (I'm not being a smartass here) most fans can't see and dont pay attention too is just as relevant. PS - I've been an umpire for 15 years. 2 years in the minor leagues, and since than I've done high school, adult and independent league ball. Hope that helps. Best.

[@Deltasquad382943]

hbk314 Facts like Angel Hernandez and Joe West being shit umpires?

[@ernestbywater411]

The biggest joke here is the commentators and their behaviour. Not sure if Buehrle's action is a balk or not, the fact he's been using it for years doesn't make it legal. I've seen many cases of players using a movement that's close to the edge for years and then get upset when it just slides over the line.

[@carolynwalker4850]

Yes, mean Joe, and he's still throwing players out in 2019.

[@larsonmarkov1699]

Don't mess with Joe west

[@mac2894]

The second clip didn't bother showing what happened before the pitch.

[@SFK360]

"Joe West just wanted to stick it right up his behind" LOL

[@mastrdrver]

I know the angle of the camera may not be the best, but you cross your leg, you have to go toward the plate with the pitch. I think that maybe what the ump was seeing. There was another pitcher that had a similar move (Randy Johnson?) that I remember hearing a commentator making that statement.

[@evanhooser10x]

At 2.38 motion toward home plate then throwing to 1st super common balk. Professional pitcher that never had that called on him in all those years, Surprise surprise umps correct

[@Trumpetjoe40]

+Eric Van Hooser Mark Beurhle been making that same move for years and fatass Joe West was looking for attention. If its a balk, then MLB better sit down with its umps and get some consistency with the call.

[@Subangelis]

+asstomouth1000 Can't tell the first one, but the second was definitely a balk. He didn't step towards first base, but more towards the dugout (between home & first). And if you're saying that he's been making that step for years, then yes, the umps need training. That that second one was so obvious, I doubt he's been making that step.

[@mattatherton1323]

+Eric Van Hooser the way that players are picking people off, they move towards home but not enough to "break the plane" which is bullshit because it makes it an umpires judgement call. IMO they are moving towards home, so it should be a balk.

[@icommentsometimes]

Subangelis Gaming you can go 45 degrees. He went fourth five which is near the dugout

[@jackjon7763]

matt atherton that makes too much sense.

[@itsangelduhfoo]

as a pitcher this is a balk look at the second time he balks. you can not have your leg cross the rubber then go to first your leg has to come up straight and then straight to first!

[@frankvarela7462]

It's 2019 now and that low life Joe West is still umpiring. How is that so.

[@kenconnelly773]

Frank Varela he’s been umpiring since long before I was born (30 years old). He has umpired more then 5,000 regular season games.

[@chuckcap6878]

Bad marksmanship?