2015 Kia Soul 27 kWh with 81k km degradation test

[@asaltvik]

What a cliffhanger! 🤯 We had a 30 kWh as our only car with two kids (2 and 7 years). Went on trips with stroller, baby bag and everything. It can take 60 kg (I think) on the roof, so we also put stuff in the roof box. Didn't steal that much range since the car is so boxy anyway. We were really happy about the car, but had to upgrade to a car with more space and longer range at last. The 30 kWh supposedly have much better battery chemistry, and will not degrade that much. We had about 130 km in winter and 200 km in summer.

[@ianemery2925]

Kia dont give a roof weight capacity on the Soul, and explicitly state no roof racks or tow bars. I have been tempted by a temporary soft rack to use when visiting Ikea.

[@ianemery2925]

@@Antiorganizer I believe that is true - I have seen the same said on some reviews - what I am unsure of is if that overcapacity is maintained as the battery degrades, or if my Soul has really lost 4KWh, and not 0.9. There may be differences in the charging circuitry, though; Souls have a lot of problems with blown OBCs - mine is in for one right now; KIA already lowered the AC charging from 7KWh to 6.4, to try and rectify this. I did 84 miles of spirited country road driving one day last summer; I started with 100%, and finished with a claimed 20%/32 miles of range remaining.

[@asaltvik]

@@ianemery2925 the version without panarama roof actually have roof capacity of 80 kg.

[@ianemery2925]

@@asaltvik Isnt that figure for the non EV version?? I thought that had a metal roof - the EV version has a plastic roof panel to save weight; hence KIA saying no roofboxes/rails. I have tried asking KIA UK, but they failed to answer - and several KIA dealerships - who all parroted the owners manual.

[@pierredelhasse3477]

My Soul EV 30 2019 with panoroof has now 134000km and 255 km in the summer, 229 today (7 degree), I love this car. Problem, impossible to sell it with such a high mileage, so I will keep it as long as it will last.

[@nevada3602]

This is brilliant: a (hopefully to be continued) review of older EVs from the second hand market! Many people outside Norway (including myself) will now be looking for the first used EVs coming to the market (in Germany, for example, you can now get 2021 KIA Soul EVs with the 64kw/h battery for half the price new, around 22.000 … so please continue these reviews, in particular of 2 to 3 years old EVs! 🙏

[@kjellking5264]

I'm gonna love this serie! Thanks Bjorn!!!

[@FARFolomew]

Haha, what happens at the end of this video happened exactly to a friend of mine with a 2017 Kia Soul EV. Her car died on the off-ramp, less than a quarter mile from a charger, on a tiny hill. And the charger was just over the hill and down! It’s no joke with this car, if it says 0 miles it MEANS IT! If this happens to you, STOP the car once it gets below 5 miles, bust out your eyelet tow bar, and have someone tow you while you apply the brake so you can regen the battery a little. Make sure you do this before the car dies, or you won’t be able to turn it back on again to put it in gear and engage the high-voltage battery!

[@MrKroolboy]

Interesting to see how this old EVs are holding up. Thanks for documenting your purchasing process and all the discoveries along the way. Can’t wait to see the next episode 😱

[@Suliro]

It is very sad that 8 year old cars are considered old, and significantly lose usability. I am pro-EV, but we have to see the disadvantages as well.

[@DgaDM]

Old???? I would consider a 8 year old car as barely run in; but of course I'm judging by so called "fossil" car standards 😅

[@juliusbs]

@@DgaDM @Suliro don't forget Björn tests the "cheapest" and worst examples regarding battery lifetime. This may be very educating, but does not show average EV-behaviour. This first generation Leafs, Souls, e-Golfs etc. were built by legacy automakers with little EV-experience. They learned a lot since then and improved their EVs. But it is very interesting to learn how to check an used EV in detail to learn about its true condition or SOH, to be able to set a fair purchasing price and calculate repair costs. So again big thanks to Björn the pioneer for paving the road again! Cheers Julius

[@nielsaasberghustedmadsen8098]

That was a very dramatic ending. Can't wait for part 2!! :D

[@ivovandenburg4455]

I am also looking for a Soul, but thanks to your video's i stay away from the 27 version.

[@matroosoft4589]

Interesting to see Björn follow the same route as me. Started with a tight budget so the Leaf seemed best value. So that's what I bought. Great car except the degradation and range. Had it for two years than really needed more range for a changed commute. Looked and looked. - BMW i3: less degradation, CCS, bit more range. But: expensive and tiny - Zoe: less degradation but no fast charging - Soul: better range. Seriously considered it as it seemed a middle ground between the Leaf and Ioniq. Until I read reports about crazy degradation. So scrapped that plan. Finally took the plunge, upped my budget and bought an Ioniq. Looking back its the best decision I could have made. its such a great car. Very efficient and nice looking too. Reading the comments it might be that there's actually a middle ground in the updated 30kwh Soul but I'm not sure how they're priced second hand.

[@Vayshen]

Looks like it's similar to that other Soul repair you did a while ago. They replaced 2 cells iirc and it was good to go. The bad cells are probably the ones highest in the pack where all the heat collects.

[@swecreations]

Yep, this is something that is a lot different on modern EVs compared to older ones

[@hanswallner2188]

Souls from first generation unfortunately have huge degradation, which is a pity, because the car itself is really superb, it would be one of the cars that would benefit tremendously from a third party battery upgrade, it's phantastic car and was setting really a standard when it came out!

[@LinusNybergLarsson]

Can't wait until the next eposide, what a thriller!

[@fernandinand]

My leaf (2014) is 165k Kms and I still get 110km in one charge (summer time). Living in central Portugal with hot summers and mild winter.

[@bjarnijonsson6698]

Just did the same test on my 2015 Soul with original battery @ 127.000 km. Result: 140.3km × 150 Wh/km / 0.95 = 22.15 kWh. That could mean 22.15/26=85% -> 15% degredation. Happy with that :). I guess our tempered climate in Iceland is good for batteries with bad thermal management. 99% of the time the battery has been between 20 and 80%. AC charging has been 90%+ of all charging.

[@BlickrichtungSueden]

That cliffhanger 😮

[@musse331]

I live for this shiiittt this is the consumer reports at it´s best keep it up

[@Marco-ce8kr]

12:44 The drama and the music...😆 Nice work Bjørn

[@matynaty82]

The Sun is going to be up early just to see if Bjorn fails up the hill 😂

[@cuccster]

Hi Bjorn..! You have to try the 30kWh version. We have one from 2017 and the SOH is 100%. The range is around 200km in the winter and 240 in the summer. (We not living in Norway) After 90000 km. 😊

[@Kimbrough87]

Yeah, I had a 2017 Hyundai ioniq electric it has the same battery

[@ashton9699]

@@Kimbrough87 it is not the same. 28 kWh Ioniq is LG battery, 30 kWh Soul is SK Innovation battery.

[@ashton9699]

SOH is useless on Hyundai/Kia. Frankly it only seems to exist so that they can scam you on warranty. Like Bjorn pointed out in the video this battery should be warrantied, but because SOH is still above 70%, dealer has grounds to refuse warranty coverage.

[@larsenpetter]

The warranty runs out after 7 years, so this car is to old.

[@Kimbrough87]

@@ashton9699 ok

[@malwoanders]

🚴🏻Hello from Chiang Mai! Beautiful Weather here! ☀️🇹🇭

[@magnarjohanwinther1892]

I'm not sure if you remember this Bjørn, but as you have stated before, it's not the milage on the car that matters, it's the chargeing habits of the previous owners. My soul is a very good example of this! I bought a Soul 2016 model 27kw with 133 000 km on the odometer. The SoH on the car was 96% and the car is awesome! Now it have driven 165 000 km and sadly after lending it to a family for a 2-3 months it have dropped to 92% SoH. They fast charged almost every day and didn't listen to me much about dropping the Fast Charger and rather charge at home on AC so the car only charged to 80%. I believe they have let the car stay parked on 100% alot resulting in the 4% decline in SoH in a very short ammount of time. I have it back now and I'm reminded why I love this car so much! It's my daily driver to work wich is a 75 km one way. I live in Finnmark where we have temperatures down to -40C and I still manage to drive to work with my 80% charge. Thanks to the programmed preheating I can sit in a nice and warm car eaven when the temp drops to the extreme! I love that there is a Driver Only button for the climate to more efficiently drive the car! I have changed the OBC myself and that was increadibly easy! Took me 1.5 hours and I'm not a mecanic nor have a I worked on cars before. So this car will be with me for a very, very long time! :D

[@iamalittlepepper]

The cabin air filter, wind shield wipers should be replaced every few years, especially in moist climate. The air filter area condenses after AC operation and mold forms giving off the bad smell. The air filter when wet is basically a petrie dish. The cabin air filter is a weak spot for Model 3/Y. Does Marcus have a ozone generator? that is usually used by realtors and detailers to get rid of the smell. Remove the filter, clean as much of the ducts as you can possibly can (baby wipes on a stick + bleach), then seal car with the generator with re-circulation AC running, after run for a while, full blast hot to dry out any residual. To keep the bad smell away is to keep the cabin air filter as dry as possible, so run heat to dry it out before car shutdown (especially in the summer and can be done remotely with Teslas).

[@dls4705]

I've found the cabin air filter on Model 3 should be changed at 20-30K km at most.

[@shawnkoh748]

I live in Los Angeles, California. I have 2017 Kia Soul ev+. In 2020, degradation was at 40%. Kia replaced with 30 kw battery, because they didn't make 27 kw battery. Then, in December 2023, There was a major recall with 30 kw battery. So, Kia replaced BMS, twice in two weeks. After, second time failure, Kia has my car at the dealer waiting for a new battery. Love Kia Soul ev+ more than Tesla Y or 3 (I have both). Considering, Kia EV9 now. Of course, I will never sell Kia Soul ev+.

[@Kr0g0th]

I also have a 2017 + and had the exact same issues, also in CA. My 27 kWh pack degraded into the 30s and was replaced in 2020 under warranty. I kept hearing everyone was getting 30 kWh packs, but I was told that is not the case, and I got another 27 kWh refurbished. Fast forward to the BMS recall. BMS replaced and then two weeks later i got the check EV and turtle. Been in the shop for weeks now awaiting a, now third, battery. I'm considering trading it for a 2019 with the 30 kWh pack. I'm hoping to learn if those have faired better. Also, that will increase my warranty period as this car really seems to rely on it.

[@NorwayRoy]

LOL. I know that feeling. It is acting just like mine 2015 Soul b4 I got a new battery in it on warranty. Don`t buy it unless you get a extremely good deal on both the car(no more than 20-25k NOK) and a new battery. Their asking price for the car is crazy high... sheeeeeeeet.... My guess is that it is more than just that one cell that is bad. Thank you for all the informative videos you make. They provided me with the necessary knowledge to claim a new battery on my car b4 the warranty ran out. Good luck!!! 🌩🔋🔌

[@MortenB0]

While having my Opel gas car in at a repair shop over 4 years ago I got a car like this as a loaner. It did not take many minutes to see that this car was a damn good car that outperformed most ICE car on everything except range and i desided to buy one. But unfortunately KIA had replaced it with the new version that was super expensive and I ended on a MG, unfortunately without a heat pump.

[@ptlaskal]

My soul 2016 - 27kwh and 120000km was on summer and 80-90km/h 140-150km range. One year leater with most dc charging some time to 100% was on 110-120km… high temperature and 100% charging kill this battery so fast…i now, was my bad. But this car must be so great with new battery, i love that car!

[@stevebsteve]

Exciting!

[@Mrback2k9]

I sold my Leaf 30 kWh last month. After 113 000 km over 20% battery degradation.

[@thisistheway421]

Björn, thanks for these Videos.😊

[@Joe-lb8qn]

I had the 30kWh Soul for two years, very nice car, then moved to and still on the 64kWh 2020 model . Cant really find anything thats worth the extra money, wouldn't get appreciably (if any)more range, a realistic 280 plus miles in summer, 250 in UK winter. Not many new cars with that range. I was getting about 90-120 miles from the 30kWh Soul so that model rather than this on the video would be ideal for Bjorns use and he would not have to top up on the return.

[@timstruppi7897]

Get a late 2017 Leaf Tekna 30kWh with better chemistry and do a BMS update if needed and later a battery upgrade. Install nice 16" for bettar range. Leather good for cleaning with kids. No rapidgate when not driven too hard.

[@blackthabata]

What a Cliffhanger. Can' t wait next Part.

[@tobimai4843]

Cell 1 seems to be dead. Would be interesting to see what happens if you just fix Cell 1

[@tomasznowicki1735]

It so happens that I drive a similar Kia Soul, but with a 132 HP petrol engine. Quite a nice car, especially in the top XL trim level with a traditional automatic transmission, although it lacks some power - the electric version is probably more dynamic. The disadvantages include a very hard suspension, a small trunk and poor anti-corrosion protection. The advantages - spacious interior, rich equipment (considering the age of the model) and unique aesthetics (whatever you like). Very interesting how the hydroelectric juice version will perform.

[@tomasznowicki1735]

@@phillipbanes5484 2015. In the US there's a version with bigger engine -- 2.0 L, much powerfull. But also heavier, especially of the front axle. The 1.6 L 132 HP version allows you to travel freely at a speed of 150 kph without great acoustic discomfort, but the fuel consumption is then unacceptable a bit ;-) During normal urban operation, the car requires approximately 9.5-10 liters of fuel per 100 km.

[@molnartiby]

Bjorn, you are brave to buy a little battery equipped Soul... (the "strange" chemistry of these Souls are common knowledge) HappyNewYear for you and your family!

[@randolphpaul5899]

Exciting end to episode I like it.

[@riotofmyown]

OMG you just resurrected Leeerrroooy Jenkins!

[@FFVoyager]

1:00 but the Classic Ioniq is worth it! Just 55,000km too! (I think the same sort of price difference between the early Soul and first Ioniq here in the UK too - a Kia is about ⅔ the price of the Hyundai)

[@bjornnyland]

My budget is 50-60k. I'm not sure if I was being clear about that or not.

[@mieciubimber9404]

Epic ending ^^

[@youbencowell]

I had the 30kwh battery on a 2017 Soul, charged many times on rapids and it had 100% SOH at 62k miles /100k km when I sold it (UK so it hadn't been as cold as this one). Kia must know that the 27 suffers more than the 30. I'd appeal to their goodwill if it's got a full Kia service history!

[@ATICrossX]

Crazy part2 teaser 🤯

[@thisistheway421]

And thanks for these videos.

[@IoanRobicek]

The ending is epic😂

[@encodersofia]

I like the car very much. But Soul cells sometimes swell. And add Chademo plug on top and i'm running very fast in the opposite direction

[@markushetzmannseder7748]

The total discharge number gut reset at some auf the BMS software Update. Thats the reason for the low number.

[@bjornnyland]

But why is the counter counting almost 2x?

[@markushetzmannseder7748]

@@bjornnyland jeah, the counting is strange. Will Take a look to it with Soul Spy on my car. Maybe it is counting the recovered power from breaking too. But thats would be some extra 10% or 20% but not that much und you have been driving mainly on flat roads/highways.

[@ME-cb1vw]

@@bjornnyland the counter in IONIQ also counts regen. If you regen a lot you can discharge more than 28 kWh. The charged and discharged counters count everything which went in or out of the HV battery. Maybe Kia does it also this way.

[@markushetzmannseder7748]

@@bjornnyland "But why is the counter counting almost 2x?" I can not see that with my Soul. But i have monitored the "battery.accumulative_charge_power_kWh" and "battery.accumulative_discharge_power_kWh" over the last day on hilly roads and ~90km including AC charging at home. The BMS is counting the regen in that numbers. I got ~1.5kWh charge on road downhill. A bit strange is the counting auf the over night charging at home. My wallbox tells it have been 17.2kWh the BMS is in mind of 20.1kWh. That is a much higher difference than I would expect, but its not 2x.

[@MortenB0]

From what I have heard from people having KIA Soul themselves: There is two boxes under the rear seats controlling the batteries that has somewhat under dimensioned cooling that degrades when they heats up over the years and you then loose about 50% of the car's range. So this might not be the batteries but these two boxes. Only Valdemar would know, right ?

[@cuccster]

Under the seats have only two "holes" and a fan sucking the cabin air through the battery. 😊

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Did he make it ?, great YT content Bjorn 😂

[@mihaitudosa]

The end part was like... Hollywood! :))

[@The81ubb]

Look for an vw eup 2020 model you will love it at 80k kmh without heating over 200km in winter

[@evclinic]

We can recover SOH to 85-90%, we have cells on stock. Yeah, soul is my favorite but cells are realy crap by SK Inovative

[@pavelblaha5243]

the end of the video is really scary

[@SuperEgleh]

I wonder if an ev sceptic will be more or less skeptical after seeing the cliffhanger 🙄

[@Raf_VK]

HAHAHA cinematic endingg 😂😂 13:44

[@FCFimpair]

What a cliff hanger😂😂

[@dejo1280]

The end stressed me out so bad omg 😅😅

[@blobstrom]

Wow..... The Sun will have a field day with that ending... **2023 Soul (maybe a typo) fails**

[@Lam-s-Workshop]

That cliff hanger tho 😂

[@josephcullen2512]

Would be interesting to see how much capacity could be recovered with repair. The cell voltages suggest it could be substantial

[@A.l.e.x.93]

12:40 the sun has entered the chat.

[@EEAMD-co6nw]

the last minutes of this video, lmao, what a cliffhanger

[@ianemery2925]

A similar age car in the UK recently had a battery failure JUST as the warranty was expiring. Kia are only offering 50% off a replacement battery, but quoting £13,000 as the full replacement cost. I do wonder if that is for a refurbished pack though; and probably a 30KW pack as well, as they seemed to have run out of 27KW packs some time ago. I do wonder if these cars have spent their lives being rapid charged to 100%; my 2016 Soul still has 26.1 KWh of the original 27 KWh useable capacity left, according to my battery app. (Roughly 38k Miles/62K Km). Of course, my OBC blew in August 2023, and I am not expecting to get if fixed before March 2024, as the garage have only today got Kia approval for a warranty repair - warranty ran out 1st November 2023. (Delivery estimates from Korea were 10-16 weeks last time I needed an expensive warranty part)

[@uniquedtech255]

ah, one thing, I have few freinds that repair souls battery and they claim that best is to stay away from old Soul , only 30kwh battery is ok 27kwh is very very faulty.

[@WisdomVendor1]

In other news, tow companies stock prices have gone through the roof!

[@RealWorldCarReviews]

At this point, with some older EVs like the Soul, you’d simply be better buying the petrol version of the same age. A lot cheaper and they’re reliable too, with a similar equipment level and no range anxiety. I tested the EV when it first came out and even then I was unimpressed with the 100 mile range. I didn’t think the battery would age well, and they don’t, unfortunately.

[@hliebold]

I hate cliffhangers.....

[@V10PDTDI]

The car is not finished yet but it does not perform as good as when it was new and we don’t know how fast it will degrade or suddenly have a cell failure that makes the car un drivable it seem like the early e Golf are better I own a 2015 with 127 000 km on it now and I can still drive around 100 km in summer so it means that for older EV’s it’s very important to perform a battery degradation test the car can look and feel real nice but when you buy it and then bring it home it’s too late to try to deal with the seller.

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

3:02 Buy a Soul, get a leaf for free 😂

[@akaoveve]

Seriously??? I can't believe it ended like that!!!!

[@apicharjiratanan4285]

I got tones of experience with stone chips please ask your dealership to fix it it will start spreading. I changed my ML Benz mirror twice already changed insurance also right after haha

[@briise]

the leaf is hanging on 🙂

[@Joakimjakobsen]

The sun has entered the chat! 🤣

[@djeffhawk7987]

The classic ioniq with 55 000 km at 175000Kr from 2018 is for sure a better deal than a 27kWh Soul from 2016 or 2017 at 160 000Kr and is still warranty. Test it and deal with the seller to pay the difference in 2 or 3 month or something like that, find a solution. The Soul was impossible to sell later or with big lost of money.

[@alexdalgleish1061]

In the UK we had 30kwh Soul with 27 usable. That car isn’t very well. Will they allow you to take out the grey Leaf or is that over your budget. Apparently when everyone has gigafactories a kwh of battery could cost as little as £125 here. So 22,000 n’s to you.

[@ramfrancisuk]

Thank God happened at a Big Macs

[@steveyoung8376]

i heard the 27kwh battery was poor and the 30kwh was a lot better, not sure how true that is

[@bjornnyland]

Korrekt

[@LittleSpot]

The Manufacturers need to be forced to make better SOH Software. Checking the Cell voltage while driving and on high loads should bring bad cells faster to the attention of the user. Monitoring the voltage per cell and find out a bigger volatge difference while charging and driving is no big implementation. Checking the inner resistance is also no problem while driving and comparing voltage and current. Giving the customer a bad battery and he has to find out by himself if the battery has bad cells...its a shitty practice.

[@joshfrench5773]

Im not a fan of the kia soul. But for that price and milage its an okay deal i guess. It would be a great car once the battery is fixed.

[@roybm3124]

The Sun: making notes

[@ramfrancisuk]

Hahahahaaha - I feel Bjorns pain - Shhhhhhhheeeeet

[@reynoldichi1090]

It dead. could be cause by broken cell?

[@KodessR]

The Kia Soul is the sibling of the Hyundia Ioniq. Just like the Kia Niro and Hyundia Kona. So the Soul is a good deal, its a bit less efficient and a bit less space than the ioniq, but all things considered a great car!

[@frankelf3151]

Strange all these "D E D" batteries. My old 2014 Leaf with 90K miless / 150K KM still has 11 bars with estimated capacity of at least 17KWh remaining. I get between 50-80 miles on a full charge. The climate in the UK is warmer so imagine in Norway the batteries should have lesser degradation. Seems like these EVs are not looked after well at all. The biggest battery killer is to let your battery sit at 100% or 0% for long periods.

[@GoldenCroc]

2014 should be an updated battery version. That makes a big difference. Battery chemistry is super important, its not necessarily how its looked after in this case, or what are you comparing your car to?

[@bjrntoreborge4281]

Well... There's a lot of old 2013 - 2016 Leafs for sale in Norway with HUGE degradation, type 5 - 6 dot's remaining out of 12. I've seen a Leaf with 86k km and 6 dot's.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@bjrntoreborge4281 A sure most of those arent imported? Lots of early leafs were, as far as I know.

[@bjrntoreborge4281]

@@GoldenCroc As far as I know, they are all made in Japan or England, so yes: they are all imported to Norway. 🙂 These cars was marketed as "What can go wrong, they have less moving parts, no turbo"-cars etc etc etc. Just BS.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@bjrntoreborge4281 I am sure you are joking with your reply, but for those that might read it and didnt get it: Imported after sales to end customer, i.e not originally sold new from dealer in Norway. Lots of them supposedly came from hot climates like Southern US states and their battery had already taken a beating before landing on Norweigan ground, which would explain a lot regarding early Leafs. Considering the last part of your reply, I am inclined to think you dont know if that was the case or not (the "bad examples" being mostly imported ones), or you would have mentioned it in your reply. It was pretty obvious what I meant in my reply after all. As to the rest of your comment, I can only say: Never believe the hype, and that goes both ways.

[@ME-cb1vw]

the sun has entered the car

[@stephan4ever64]

. . . to be continued

[@rjung_ch]

Drama at the end, what will come next? Suspense is high!

[@LilaKuhJunge]

So funny to see the good old trusty BMW i3 22kWh gen.1 still holding solid ground vs. its competition...

[@williamarmstrong7199]

Why not replace the entire pack with a low milage 2nd hand unit from an accident damaged car?

[@bjornnyland]

Too expensive.

[@altern8ive]

Well I'm guessing EcoFlow will actually required for real this time 😃

[@vegedramon1]

The Sun has joined the chat again.

[@ME-cb1vw]

IONIQ counts regen also as "cumulated energy charged". Maybe KIA does it also this way.

[@bjornnyland]

I didn't regen 13 kWh. That's way too much.

[@derGerhart]

I just wish they brought the classic iyoniq back. Even if there is not a lot of new stuff. We dont need 27383638363873 kwh batteries.

[@derGerhart]

(then the used market for those would also be more reasonable)

[@timburke6882]

The Agony.............!

[@Jajdjejwi28]

Bjorn when will you test model 3 highland?

[@bjornnyland]

Soon

[@Jajdjejwi28]

@@bjornnyland thank you!

[@tiemeiscool123]

He said after the MG in an earlier video, if plans didn't change👍​@@Jajdjejwi28

[@Thillonoz]

I was wondering when I saw the last video, is it really an advantage in low milage 8 year old EV? Wouldn't that indicate it's been sitting at either 100% or close to 0%, maybe 5-20% for long periods of time? Which would cause degradation in itself.

[@orlovsskibet]

Good sheeeeeet

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

My 2002 Focus manual 208k MILES, if it needs engine at 300k MILES, I can do for $2,000 USD or less.

[@Chukyka]

Next episode very interesting :) Turtle mode ON LOL.

[@roberts.wilson1848]

I wonder about the newer gen of hyundai/kia vehicles degradation, because these older ones seem to be as bad as the leaf

[@swecreations]

Yes this issue was fixed on the 30 kWh after this one

[@MrBohnsack]

Are the souls with replaced battery expensive? Love my soul 15 has 164000kms on odometer and drives good with the new battery.

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@egilring]

Buy a e-Golf.... By my e-Golf... 😁 I need to change it out for to 7 seater.

[@bjornnyland]

Will you sell it for 60k nok?

[@egilring]

Sorry, Need 76k for it to cover the Loan@@bjornnyland