2016-2020 Honda Pilot 6 speed transmission shuttering? Perform this transmission service.

[@normangustafson8258]

Did the flush as described in your video. Successful. No RPM/transmission shutter. Thank you very much.

[@bennieaust]

You’re welcome! Great to hear!!

[@eastbayarearesident3631]

thank you for creating and sharing this video. If only this video came out early in 2024 when I had to drain and fill my 2016 Pilot 3 times to fix a shuddering issue. I still use Honda DW-1 ATF and lately a new crush washer as well with each fluid change. It's only about $3. I guess I'll have to drain & re-fill 3 quarts of ATF every 5K miles as a preventive maintenance task. Law firms are aware of this problem and are reaching out to Honda owners....a class action lawsuit is coming soon.

[@bennieaust]

You’re welcome!

[@ivanb707]

Had same problem. Change fluids shifted great for a few months , then service transmission showed on message system on dash . So I serviced again with no change . Contacted my dealer (great people) the touque converter had issues. Lucky our 2017 Pilot had a service bulletin and cost me zero.

[@OGPanda101]

Great video. Wished I knew earlier. Spent $1200 on 2 triple flushes at the dealer😢

[@bennieaust]

:( at least that won’t happen again.

[@RayMeador]

Had same issue. Encountered mine at 70k. Fluid drain and fill did the trick. More religious about changing after that

[@bennieaust]

I think that’s the best way to prevent it.

[@billyvision1360]

I had shutter problem with my 2019 Pilot…I now change my transmission fluid at every other oil change interval. No more shutter.👍🏼

[@bennieaust]

It seems a though that’s the only way to prevent it. :(

[@JoshHollandYo]

Great vid. Thanks man! This is exactly what’s happening to my 2016 pilot at 154k miles.

[@bennieaust]

You’re welcome! It continues to drive perfect since I serviced it. Hopefully you will have the same results!

[@kitz323-i8z]

Hey man. I have a 2014 Odyssey and did the same drain and fill 3 times. But each time I will actually drive the van about 10 minutes away including a highway run. I also used OEM Honda ATF. Been doing it every 40k

[@bennieaust]

Sounds like you've done a great job of preventing this issue! Using Genuine Honda fluid is always a great choice. I service a ton of transmissions and keep a large quantity of the Valvoline fluid on hand because it's recommended for many applications. The reason I didn't go for a drive and kept a pretty short run time between all mine fluid changes was because I was hoping to not dilute the new fluid with old. It's going to happen no matter what though, and I guess that's why you do 3 drain / fill cycles. Thanks for commenting!

[@michaelpalm2210]

transmission shudder is a problem on many Honda vehicles. My CR-V has same issue and TSB is same. change your fluid often

[@hukmai]

Owner of a 2017 ridgeline 198k miles, I'm more surprised the atf looks decent for no maintenance. I would also do the transfer case + rear different at the same time. Also the atf online filter too Do not to overfill! a non planetary gear set transmission like Hondas before the 10 speed or zf 9speed this parallel shaft acts more like a manual transmission splash enough to carry through the gears. The hot on the dip stick is a range. i aim to be right in the middle because the fluid will fluctuate hotter depending on the load. I would add lubeguard black for aftermarket atf or lubeguard red for dw1

[@bennieaust]

Thanks for your added insight!!

[@АндрійЯрош-д8ц]

Like .Thank you. Hello from Ukraine.

[@bennieaust]

@@АндрійЯрош-д8ц greetings! You’re welcome!

[@sushishiba]

I own a 2019 Honda Ridgeline AWD, and this issue first arose when the vehicle had approximately 30,000 miles. The problem consistently recurs every 8,000 to 10,000 miles. Currently, with 60,000 miles on the odometer, I've had to address this issue four times already.

[@bennieaust]

I know it’s common, but I’m sorry to hear it’s been such an issue on yours. :(

[@bbb4019]

I also have 2019 ridgeline rtle. Started around 35k miles. I think there’s a TSB out for a bad torque converter. I put mine on jacks and do one drain and fill every 5k now along with my oil!

[@laszlovass7326]

Drain and fill once every 10k miles, every 2nd oil change

[@normangustafson8258]

Excellent video. Bought fluid through your link. Great video. Question: did you meantion a tranmission programming update as a possible additional remedy ?

[@bennieaust]

Thanks, and thank for using the link! I didn’t mention it and am not sure if they have any software updates or not. I didn’t find any info on that in my research, but I’m not a Honda dealer so it’s possible there may be a software update.

[@MrSamPhoenix]

There is a software update for the transmission.

[@jamescorbin3666]

I have 35000 miles on my 2016 Pilot. I did a 3 quart change and a transmission filter change. I plan on changing the fluid and filter every 30000 to 35000 miles.

[@bennieaust]

That’s a great way to hopefully avoid this issue. Keep up the good work!!

[@highteksolutions]

Great Video. I do have a question though, don't you need to actually drive the car in all gears for the fluid to circulate through? I feel like simply cycling through the gears while stationary might not do the job. Curious to know.

[@bennieaust]

Thanks! All that is called out for is exactly what I do in this video. I couldn’t tell you the exact details of why, but that’s all they call for.

[@RoadIslife2020channel]

Thank you

[@bennieaust]

You’re welcome!!

[@bradwine8693]

Isnt there an overflow somewhere at the top of the tank that you can take out and let it drain till it trickles to get just the right amount of transmission fluid in. I think i have seen TE do that when he does a flush on his channel but i dont think i have watched him do this particular vehicle. So basically he overfills a bit and cracks another drain at the top and lets it drain till its a slow flow then tightens it back up.

[@bennieaust]

Some vehicles have no dip stick and use that method, other have a dip stick and use this method. I haven’t seen one with a dip stick that has an overflow plug.

[@bradwine8693]

Ahh makes sense then thanks great video by the way. My pilot has 68k and was shuddering at 40k flush took care of it. It has just now started up again so I will be doing the flush next week. Crazy that this fluid goes bad so quick too bad they didn't improve the fluid to take care of the problem.

[@bennieaust]

@@bradwine8693 ​​⁠for sure, at least is a problem that’s resolved with a fluid service. It would really suck if the transmission or torque converter needed replacement.

[@eliommusk1585]

Would recommend doing this same flush in all Hondas that have a high mileage and the transmission service is unknown?

[@bennieaust]

It’s certainly not a bad idea, and if you are doing it yourself it’s pretty inexpensive.

[@eliommusk1585]

@ What do you with the other 2 gallons left? Is that totally bad or can be used?

[@bennieaust]

@@eliommusk1585 the 3 gallons you drain out? Take it to the hazardous waste drop off or your local auto parts store that accepts used oil.

[@SalemAbuOmar]

did you try to do transmition software re learn

[@bennieaust]

I didn’t. Just did the service shown in this video and it’s been great ever since.

[@jimpie231]

Ok, but how about the transmission filters. I checked the Pilot on line and rechecked about 3 times and finally got 2 filters. One internally like most transmissions that connect to the rear of the car and an inline one. I have a 2009 Honda Crv that had a similar issue, but is basically a FWD. Mine is also a 4WD, but not like yours. Mine has an inline filter (Honda # 25430PLR003, available from AMAZON for $6+ or at the dealer or $43+). On my 2009 it’s on the line (middle of the car in front of the engine) going to the radiator from the transmission. Does yours have these filters? Comments……..

[@bennieaust]

The normal service does not call out for replacement of these filters but it’s certainly not a bad idea to change the inline one. The internal one is only replaceable during a complete transmission teardown.

[@Frank-s3s]

Great video for sure but you're definitely doing the process wrong when it comes to how you run the fluid through. Shifting gears at a stand still isn't doing shii. You need to actually drive the vehicle through the gears for atleast a few miles between each drain and drive in reverse a bit as well. Other than that... this video was absolutely 🔥🔥🔥

[@bennieaust]

Like it or not, this is the Honda procedure that I followed. Thanks!

[@Frank-s3s]

@@bennieaust Honda is wrong too. Supposed to drive through the gears. Never trust a stealership. They tell you certain things that aren't 100% true. That's how they stay in business. Reputable independent mechanics have better knowledge.

[@bennieaust]

@@Frank-s3s I think you are missing the point here. This video is showcasing the Honda procedure. If I didn't follow the procedure, I would be doing it wrong. If you choose to do a different procedure that's totally fine and there is nothing wrong with that. It's just that it's not the Honda procedure anymore. I would encourage you to make a service video with your methods and post it here on KZbin!! That's what it's all about. And by the way, I fixed the issue with this transmission. It has not acted up once since I preformed this exact procedure. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@pilot2020]

You are correct my friends at honda puts on a lift and puts on drive and actually drives the car in air as if your on a test drive and let's the car come to temp when fans kick in and tranny fluid is at operating temp as if he takes it for a test drive letting the fluid and torque converter flowing three times for best results this transmission takes 3.7 quarts of tranny fluid each time not overfilling

[@RayMeador]

Cheaper than a transmission for sure

[@bennieaust]

For sure!

[@DougSchwartz-o1g]

Just what everything you did is wrong. Wrong transmission fluid as any tech knows, Honda is very picky with DW-1 factory fluid as it specialized. Crush washers need to be replaced as they crush to do a good seal. Reusing does not crush again. Between ATF changes you need to take it up 50+ mph to allow the torque converter to lock up and the fluid to flow through. This is done between each drain/fill. Please do not post on internet if you don’t know what you’re doing because people will read this and also do it wrong. I suggest you go to the dealer for your service based on this video.

[@bennieaust]

Thanks for watching and commenting Doug.

[@DObijiaku]

Doug, you must be a paid actor or something. Is this account being ran by a Honda dealership? I hope you are aware that this is a Honda and not a Rolls Royce, we are fully aware of what we’re doing here.

[@DougSchwartz-o1g]

@ Nope, not a paid actor or work for dealership. Just a regular car enthusiast that has owned and maintained several Acura/Hondas over the past 30+ years. For those that are watching this video, please read my original comments above for the correct (3x) transmission drain/fill for your Honda/Acura. 👍

[@brettcarter6189]

@DougSchwartz-o1g - Countless Honda owners have for years used the Valvoline ATF on their Hondas with no problems. I use it on my 220,000 mile Pilot, and I have never noticed any difference in shifting. If DW1 was so great, then why is it not holding up very well in the six speed transmissions? It apparently can’t handle the heat generated by that transmission. Maybe the Valvoline MaxLife can.

[@mannyfresh215]

Do all these pilots have the same issue.? I feel like every channel talks about transmission problems. I was looking to buy one but every time I watch a video someone is always working on the tranny. Is this car even worth buying??

[@bennieaust]

Pilots have been plagued with transmission issues from year one. I think the transmissions were best from about 2008-2015. Anybody else feel free to chime in on their pilot transmission experiences. There is a lot to like about the Pilot but buy one with caution.

[@mannyfresh215]

@bennieaust which one would you rather choose from, a 2018 Honda pilot or a 2016,7,8teen Toyota Highlander?

[@bennieaust]

@ ​​⁠in my opinion the highlander would be a better choice.

[@mannyfresh215]

@bennieaust I been looking at both the Highlander and pilot trying to make a good financial decision because I definitely don't want to be stuck with a whole lot of problems after spending that much money for a SUV

[@pilot2020]

I have a 2020 6spd .bought it at 27k the first thing I did was disable the vcm and did a 3x tranny drain and fill but my friends at honda told me each drain and fill take it for a ride and bring up to temp letting the fans kick on and fluid is hot 3x and change the filter after the 3rd time.this has been the best results then change fluid every 10 to 15k after .I have 50k on my car and no issues.but it's the vcm that's over heating the fluid and injectors issues and cylinder cut off

[@abdouallahuniverse5689]

What 140000, and still no timing belt change, that crazy, if the timing belt break while engine on, say by by to that engine, bacause it is an interference engine where postons can come into contact with the valves, it happen to.my CRV, belt break at 230000 miles but i was lucky non intereference engine, I dont know if they did change the belt or that was the original belt since the car sold by the dealer. The only part got damaged is the crank shaft sensor, so i did change all timing parts and the car start no problem.

[@bennieaust]

140k miles isn’t even bad. :( CAM FAILURE! Honda Pilot: + 207K miles on original timing belt! kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6HYkIaIqahpjaM

[@abdouallahuniverse5689]

But you don't want to take chance till the belt broke and find yourself replacing the whole engine for like over 4000 dollar, visual check will not tell you if the belt is good or not, like mine the belt was looking good from both sides, but it did break anyway, and many things can go wrong in the timing assembly, water pump, the tensioner, or other pulley that may make the belt to get loose and destroyed.

[@bennieaust]

@@abdouallahuniverse5689, I agree, it should have been done at 105k miles, I’m just saying I’ve seen much worse.

[@JayDonDove]

Good news, Honda is using a different trans in the 21 + Pilots. Bad news, the V6's are breaking now. Honda is losing its luster.

[@bennieaust]

:(