2016 HSV GTS vs BMW M5 Pure - matching claimed 0-100km/h figures

[@TheM275]

Should have got an Auto HSV. Oh and by the way, no wonder Commodore didn't continue here. Everyone calls it a bogan car. I'd like to see how well people could design and manufacture a car like they do. I think Holden did an excellent job. Bogans.

[@ryanatta]

think i'd take the better engine note of the hsv and save 90k

[@jagdeepsidhu1]

ryanatta get an ssv redline. spend 2k on exhaust and you'll have best sounding v8 around.

[@dylanweise4802]

Cringe... Hearing holdens rev is just eye rolling

[@kai-matthiasbast8612]

@@jagdeepsidhu1 nah the 6.2L v8 in 2012 C63's is better

[@RicanSoldierBoy]

interesting how the hsv looked like it started to pull, then dropped back when shifting

[@jagdeepsidhu1]

RicanSoldierBoy yes that's because of the 2 turbos in the bmw. i don't like euro shit but its sad that aussie and american engineers don't put efforts in turbos.

[@HEKTIC458]

Done this race on the street, the M5 is noticably quicker than the GTS

[@kalegions799]

BMW E39 M5 Supercharge would of left the Hsv standing still and thats a 2003 model?

[@mortensenvick5711]

ah the good old time when australia got his own cars. i was that crazy i was almost buying and inmportig the maloo. in italy! i miss hsv, holden, and fpv ford

[@elliotsaxon7070]

The Gts sound way better

[@Drivecomau]

+Elliot Saxon - we agree!

[@uruterus7849]

+CarAdvice.com Can we see them in brake test or v-max??

[@dylanweise4802]

Lmao, you have to think. I rather hear a grunty European car then some obnoxiously loud Holden that is just eye rolling

[@jameslovett8697]

Should show a longer sprint...the m5 is a freaking rocket compared to the GTS

[@jagdeepsidhu1]

James Lovett no its not. hsv will reel it in longer sprint. hsvs have problem putting power down from standstill but it will be more than happy to rape your m5 on a roll.

[@GTGDPUBLICAGENT]

HSV is faster. It just spins at the start. U can clearly see the hsv was coming in fast near the end

[@mushy1983123]

Best hsv time down the quarter mile is 12.2 or 12.1 the bmw m5 does it in 11.7

[@bosse641]

HSV is the better looking though. .....I'd go for that one for sure.

[@oldschoolracinggames5729]

+Bosse Grytbakk because youre dawn

[@branisimoSVK]

did you say that m5 won everytime on race... with best 4.9 while gts 4.5???

[@mushy1983123]

Might be road surface wheel spin m5 on a good surface does low 4sec 0-100

[@logitech850]

Yea but he was talking about these cars while he was testing, so the GTS was quicker even with no traction and the only reason the M5 won each time was because he can't shift for shit.

[@coopsnz1]

33% luxury car tax on m5

[@christiann6350]

185k v 95k. Which one would you go for? Personally the hsv is better as it offers a lot more bang for ya buck and if upgraded to a total cost of 185k it will easily beat the bmw. Still both nice cars though.

[@sourwords1808]

yeah but it's not always about power and outright speed. There are other cars for that. The HSV could never match the BMW's refinement, no matter what the cost. And that's worth every penny over the HSV.

[@danielcollinsYT]

yep HSV, Aussie made car will soon be an Aussie made legend

[@christiann6350]

+Sergey Popov ford fan I presume?

[@coopsnz1]

M5 loses 50 k from luxury tax . So m5 here is worth 135 k before shipping costs and taxes

[@tomfanshawe6947]

+Ben Chesterman The GTS also gets the luxury tax, and all commodores for that matter. Albeit less as the starting price is less than the pure.

[@stinger15au]

Or get a RS3, 0-100 in 4sec all day long, every time. Actually beating audi's claim by .3sec. Having said that, the gts put in a good effort here, launching big powerful RWD manual cars is quite tricky and the reality is its going to take many goes to get it perfect

[@1st_vaa]

+stinger15au OMG yes RS3 would be epic!!

[@peterchown1552]

Numerous tests have been done that show the HSW is substantially quicker with launch control not activated. Very disappointed to see this was not tried here.

[@IIIIALBYIIII]

do you think if you change the badges around the green bmw would go faster?

[@URHYNS]

Returning back to this video after many years. These days, this model M5 has got to be one of the best bang for your buck you can get. Depreciated to around $80K for a good example. Where the GTS is fetching over $100K.

[@TheHusky2001]

so the hsv was quicker from 0-100 yet it was behind the bmw from start to finish! sure you guys dont work for drive. com.au

[@Digga_10]

My notes have BMW Verse HSV Comb Fuel 9.9L/100km - 15L/100km BMW Adaptive LED headlights, HSV Halogen Bulbs and so so so much more with aids inside and out. Internal seating measurements and leg rooms in the M5 is massive to HSV and much bigger car inside. If comparing internals the Cheaper M3 is the same size inside with even more headroom in the rear. The outside package is tight, you cant hide a small child under the BMW bonnet. Then price closer and faster again 0-100km Then even closer the BMW 340i is $15 000 cheaper than the HSV and tested 0-100km 4.6 seconds, easy outhandles HSV with still all the goodies with LED adaptive headlights that turn and auto high beam etc, electric blinds to cover windows and side blinds, Internet and full connectivity. Surrond view cameras like a drone above you, need to see. DAB+ Radio. Comb Fuel is 6.8 L/100km You can easy add the M Performance Power Kit, and still have heaps of money left over the HSV and times 4.4 seconds 0-100km and less than half the fuel. 340i insurance is less than half the hsv Servicing is $1250 for 80 000km or 5 years....Cheap Tyres compared to HSV $500 each and brakes a fraction of the cost. remote controls via phone / adjustable seat width/emergency braking second impact/pedestrian monitor and pre brake function etc/concierge 24\7----/cruise control with brakes/25000km or 2 year service intervals Cant compete with the HSV note under full load and acceleration but I know what I would rather be racing about Mount Panarama if wanting to win or enjoy the corners.

[@uruterus7849]

Whats price on pads and rotors for the bmw?, what brand?, continentals are not $500 each, whats dimensions?, chassis on gts is pretty good, 149s on gp circuit, i'm sorry but i have call bs

[@Digga_10]

tedhead redhead My last HSV Senator cost for Genuine Parts $2000 for the front OR THE rear replacement after 20000km $4000 for both. The GTS is even more expensive than Senator or Clubsport brakes as larger compared to BMW HSV +$2740 more and likely $5000 more if the BMW wear indicators are correct as will get double the kilometers per set. The rear BMW Pirelli P Zero Runflat tyre is heaps cheaper than HSV Conti P5 fronts. what does BS stand for? Genuine Parts. 2 x front rotors $200each $400 PAIR 2 x front pads $230 (1 set) 2 x rear rotors $200each $400 PAIR 2 x rear pads. $230 (1 set) $1260 full replacement cost. Estimated upto double the kilometers

[@uruterus7849]

+Sean Williams If you paid those prices, your going through a dealership and getting ripped off, I have been quoted $600 per disc rotor on my vf gts, had them inspected and don't need them or pads with 50k on car from new, and thats with track days, not sure what you mean by size in cabin, you got dimensions?, also holden in 2013(when I brought my gts), had capped price servicing, $220, also further down the track, and bmw are also reliable, but parts are cheaper for any lsa or commodore part, and I saved $15000 instead purchasing a bmw, although an m2 is on my shopping list, but I have to say, I think overall, holdens are just great fun to drive, and don't get better bang for buck

[@Digga_10]

tedhead redhead must have dropped in price even aftermarket only just came out less than twelve months ago were $1400 per end. Glad cheap alternatives are now out. if getting 50k wow many people don't even make it between service intervals with genuine pads and rotors. re dimensions got figures on brochures and carsales. rear seats in BMW 3 series has more shoulder room and more headroom in the front. So Pretty close when all evens out. HSV not good Value at all now. My VF looked like a omega from the side. unlike my VE that was with the great HSV side vents. bang for Buck has to be the SSV that leaves all the import cars for dead. but HSV are now a rip-off.

[@uruterus7849]

+Sean Williams Lsa is a brilliant engine, its designed to be raced all day, forged rods etc, rods being about the only internals that fail in pushrods, but as much as its not an engineering marvel, nobody could say that getting this close in a 0-100 with any m series, is an easy feat, the only thing that lets these cars down is 20inch rims, such a shame in that regards

[@eddiemes5943]

When looking at the price difference between this 2 cars the BMW should’ve been much faster....So at the end HSV is better option in my opinion

[@Hapkido82AUS]

similar cars overall, but $100k price difference means any comparison is a little unfair.

[@johnnybigg7772]

Something tells me they didn't know how to setup the m5. Most people claim they get can under 4 seconds 0-100 in f10 m5. Did they even use launch control on the m5? The Holden is a piece of junk but a fast piece of junk.

[@MegaUnavailableusern]

That gts is worth alot more than that m5 now. The M5 has no value anymore

[@johnnybigg7772]

@@MegaUnavailableusern You are right that HSV would have more value than a F10 M5 but hey they still make m5's and the holden, well they don't seem to be valuable enough to make anymore.

[@MegaUnavailableusern]

@@johnnybigg7772 that's a good thing for the owner of the hsv. No successor and limited production of the gts will keep that car extremely valuable. M5s are global, theres many of them and the f90 makes the f10 irrelevant.

[@johnnybigg7772]

@@MegaUnavailableusern 100% but its only valuable due to a global niche market and its discontinued making it a collectors item just like Toranas etc. But those cars cars are still junk compared to BMW performance cars. A posatge stamp can be more valuable than any of these cars. Who cares what there worth. Its about what they do.

[@MegaUnavailableusern]

@@johnnybigg7772 i mean car for car a 2013 gts is probably as good or better than a 2013 m5. By your logic every old car is garbage since the newer models do more and perform better.

[@stevefox3763]

also note that the driver in the bmw had a much slower reaction at the beginning and still comfortably won

[@frankrai3502]

M5 undoubtedly the faster car in a straight line and on the track.... but appearance, sound, bang for your buck... cant go past the HSV...

[@jasonc4798]

U got to be fukin kidding look how much traction the hsv driver lost at launch

[@DarknoorX]

Is it me or the GTS was't driven seriously? Something seemed really fishy there...

[@Drivecomau]

+DarknoorX - Fishy taily only, plus Paul.

[@DarknoorX]

Not exactly sure what u said there bro but I am pretty sure the GTS can do better than as shown.

[@rasheed2844]

+DarknoorX Hahahahahaha fishy tails only 😂 wtf is he on 😂 nah I understand where you're coming from. The gts should've won that by miles ! I'll only believe that the BMW beat the gts if I see it in person

[@incognito_cambodian]

Comparing the most powerful Holden car to the M5 pure??? Why don't you compare it to the M5 Competition package?

[@arivat7699]

"Competition package" hahahah what drug are you on? There is some +160k difference in price in that comparison. Add 160k worth of aftermarket upgrades to the Aussie car and it would simply eat the BMW for breakfast. There are two different drivers out there, one who will waste a fortune to drive a logo and those who want a solid car that looks good and sounds great that can be modified easily, I am the later.

[@piercethompson7028]

Ari Vat why do you need mods on the gts it has to be stock v stock, and the m5 is in the competition division like hsv isn’t it?

[@piercethompson7028]

@John Winzil ur probably a little kid

[@kristianspencer1978]

Vxr8 Bathurst s, £35000. 560 bhp. 0-60 in 4 seconds. Get monkfish to tune it, with the money you have left it would trounce the m5.

[@tsint]

Is it common to use kW instead of HP in Australia?

[@NZFarmboy80]

yes same here in New Zealand

[@1st_vaa]

+tsint Yeah pretty much everyone in Australia uses KW instead of HP. The same way we use Millimetres, Centimetres, Metres, Litres, Kilograms, Kilometres per hour etc. So everything we use is the metric system lol.

[@nicenow25]

Yes, they use metric in aus, where in UK we use metric and imperial

[@LeshVAuto]

The world uses SI units where as the US uses their own metric system, the US customary system.

[@sterlo53ify]

We use metric not imperial.

[@eshansingh917]

It also depends on your gear shifting skills .

[@mushy1983123]

They do the standing quarter mile in 11.7 compared to the hsv 12.2.... but very expensive car.... I've owned holdens all my life just recently brought a bmw u can tell the difference in the way the bmw drives much smoother and comfortable...

[@jeffaustin8112]

Have fun when that BMW is falling apart in 5 years

[@mr.bosstang8363]

For the price of the m5 I'll buy 2 HSV's

[@robbyjai]

yeh says every other bogan dickhead.. hows holden going these days ?? lols not so well.. too. many arm chair fuckwits like you who cant afford the car talking smack on youtube videos lols

[@dylanweise4802]

@@robbyjaiHaha, your the man! HSV's are trash and cheap shit.. I rather hear a grunty BMW or some european car, that sounds so much better.

[@robbyjai]

@@dylanweise4802 sad but true. hate to see holden go but soo. many dickheads like mr prang here.. who says's he'll buy the car but reality is no one does.

[@thatmatty231guy]

@@robbyjai Haha 100%

[@robbyjai]

@John Winzil I cant afford it ??? hahahaha WHat a Dumb Kent. If you bothered to looking at my KZbin Channel you will see i own a Porsche Macan GTS 170k, and a BMW M2 Comp 135k. thats 300k worth of cars. and you reckon i cant afford it ?? hahahahahahaha what an utter tosser you are

[@vasilisconstantinides4476]

The hsv gearbox is always gonna let it down.

[@klevrah]

The holden will be worth doubke in 10 years the bmw will be worth a third if that😂 im getting a gts tomorrow😊

[@pjbrawn2646]

What would the BMW cost without all the import taxes?

[@mushy1983123]

Why did they only race 200m u need quarter mile times

[@taylorfox499]

Hsv GTS gen F all the way!!

[@danielson1989]

Bear in mind that the BMW also has launch control - i know it was a quick video but you've missed lots of stuff the BMW can do.

[@Disinf3ctant]

I believe M5 pure does not have launch control. It's only for dual clutch

[@arivat7699]

The BMW would want to be able to assist in the rotation of the earth for the difference in price, way overpriced.

[@joshuaarmstrong3712]

love the vid bro

[@arav4945]

Nice shifting

[@piercethompson7028]

Chuck the m5 competition against the w1

[@theindestructible.]

what does he say on 00:20 after"compare to the world stage........with somethin???????

[@Drivecomau]

+dogra ji - "if only there was something we could benchmark it against...'

[@jaylocke9574]

I agree you may be right. But have you seen how good my XF looks in metalic green with r sport kit and black 20 inch wheels. In my opinion I'd take the Jag every day. But there's something about turning 40 that changes a man. Not to mention my 5 month old that travels in the back.. I'd love a Senator， but my wife doesn't.

[@coopsnz1]

Your forgetting there's luxury tax , shipping costs added on . If hsv gts sold in uk there is about 20 k differance

[@illuminatiaqi6130]

Its not pure metal edition?

[@TrackRecord3455]

I think the BMW M5 is weighs less and has almost the power of the GTS HSV

[@ReaLzEdits]

HSV FTW!

[@djp4nfa]

the gts just needs the m5 gear box. GTS all day.

[@dylanweise4802]

Lmao no... GTS's look trash lmao, they are cheap, heavy, ugly looking bogan cars..

[@coopsnz1]

Gts is 117k with on road costs

[@uruterus7849]

I own a GTS Gen F, from new, and nobody has paid $117k, just have a look on google, u heard of google right??, fyi, i paid under $90k, brand new

[@rwd323]

Bet the LSA is going long after the S63!!

[@jakoob4560]

BMW looks plain and uninteresting, always has. Holden stands out.

[@HaultRxst]

🤮 They trying to make the hsv stand out that's why lol

[@thatmatty231guy]

Lmao really? That HSV looks like every other commodore shitbox on the road.

[@jakoob4560]

@@HaultRxst ye ok

[@meaganibanez7973]

Fun fact HSV Actually win because I saw it

[@xxMrBaldyxx]

I wouldn't want either of these fuel guzzlers.

[@uruterus7849]

If the GTS is put in performance, you will get much faster 0-100, as it softens the mrc. As for the haters, $92k vs $180k, and the GTS is this close?, and then resale and servicing?, those who buy a GTS are clearly smarter, not that the haters could even afford a GTS LOL!

[@preiss0]

lol resale. holdens are worth nothing a few years later. M5 will hold longer.

[@uruterus7849]

+craig preiss No resale. Let's just check the facts on that. Take for example the W427. let’s have a look at the resale values of it compared to other cars from 2009 that are a similar class of vehicle (ie GT sedans). These other vehicles were selling for a similar price to the W427 at the time or fetching a similar used car price in 2015. All values are taken from Redbook. In the calculations below the minimum loss is the loss made assuming you obtain the maximum private price for the vehicle, whereas the maximum loss is the loss made assuming you trade the vehicle in for bottom dollar. 2009 Holden Special Vehicles W427 Manual MY09 Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $155,500 Average Km: 90,000 - 150,000 Private Price Guide: $70,300 - $77,900 Trade In Price Guide: $60,800 - $68,400 Minimum Loss: $77,600 (49.90% loss) Maximum Loss: $94,700 (60.90% loss) 2009 Audi RS6 Auto quattro MY09 Sedan (5 Litre twin turbo V10) Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $263,500 Average Km: 60,000 - 110,000 Private Price Guide: $71,400 - $78,900 Trade In Price Guide: $63,300 - $70,800 Minimum Loss: $184,600 (70.06% loss) Maximum Loss: $200,200 (75.98% loss) 2009 Audi A8 Auto quattro (3.2 Litre, 6 cylinder) Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $165,900 Average Km: 60,000 - 110,000 Private Price Guide: $33,200 - $37,200 Trade In Price Guide: $26,700 - $30,700 Minimum Loss: $128,700 (77.58% loss) Maximum Loss: $139,200 (83.91% loss) 2009 BMW 550i E60 Auto MY08 (4.8 Litre V8) Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $170,210 Average Km: 60,000 - 110,000 Private Price Guide: $39,700 - $44,300 Trade In Price Guide: $33,500 - $38,100 Minimum Loss: $125,910 (73.97% loss) Maximum Loss: $136,710 (80.32% loss) 2009 BMW M3 E90 Manual Sedan (4 Litre V8) Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $145,000 Average Km: 60,000 - 110,000 Private Price Guide: $46,300 - $51,500 Trade In Price Guide: $38,400 - $43,600 Minimum Loss: $93,500 (64.48% loss) Maximum Loss: $106,600 (73.51% loss) 2009 Jaguar XF Portfolio Auto MY10 (5 Litre V8) Release Date: June 2009 Price When New: $155,990 Average Km: 60,000 - 110,000 Private Price Guide: $41,600 - $46,400 Trade In Price Guide: $34,000 - $38,800 Minimum Loss: $109,590 (70.25% loss) Maximum Loss: $121,990 (78.20% loss) 2009 Lexus GS460 Sports Luxury Auto MY08 (4.6 Litre V8) Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $143,000 Average Km: 60,000 - 110,000 Private Price Guide: $27,500 - $31,000 Trade In Price Guide: $21,800 - $25,300 Minimum Loss: $112,000 (78.32% loss) Maximum Loss: $121,200 (84.76% loss) 2009 Mercedes-Benz E500 Elegance Auto MY08 (5.5 Litre V8) Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $167,668 Average Km: 60,000 - 110,000 Private Price Guide: $40,200 - $44,600 Trade In Price Guide: $32,800 - $37,200 Minimum Loss: $123,068 (73.40% loss) Maximum Loss: $134,868 (80.44% loss) 2009 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Auto (6.2 Litre V8) Release Date: January 2009 Price When New: $148,900 Average Km: 90,000 - 150,000 Private Price Guide: $56,400 - $62,700 Trade In Price Guide: $47,800 - $54,100 Minimum Loss: $86,200 (57.89% loss) Maximum Loss: $101,800 (67.90% loss) So out of that fairly awesome array of cars, the HSV has the lowest depreciation values (in absolute dollars and relative dollars (%)), with the AMG C63 second and the BMW M3 third. When it comes to running costs, I’m willing to bet the HSV is also the cheapest to service and has the cheapest parts as well. Yes the HSV uses the most petrol but the amount you save by having less depreciation more than makes up for the extra cost of fuel. Other interesting points are the assumed average kilometres for the vehicles. The HSV and the AMG C63 have a higher average kilometres listed than all the other vehicles. This means that if you could get an example of the HSV or the AMG with lower mileage than the listed average for those 2 cars you may expect their second prices to be higher than listed and therefore their depreciation may be even lower. Look at the Audi RS6. Its second hand price in 2015 is very close to the second hand price of the HSV W427 but to match the second hand price of the HSV you had to pay $263,500 for the Audi

[@uruterus7849]

I had to plagarise these facts, and thank my source

[@gjergjtheghegkastrioti1723]

Could you imagine twin turbo the com,,,omg forced induction always wins

[@ComputersAndSoftware]

They are both forced induction

[@calvindwwww]

Hmmmm now im kinda jealous of my neighbor, his got a hsv and a porsche cayenne s in his garage.

[@lukehall3487]

Please do a another ford ECOSPORT video 😩

[@coopsnz1]

its 4.1 seconds

[@IPARTHIAN]

Lol the driver on HSV did pretty sht job from the start.

[@faisalahmed1982]

HSV lookes way better than the M5!

[@davidvaknin3801]

You;re blind

[@garryainsworth8813]

No he is Australian.

[@Prince077Aussie]

HSV is better than BMW....

[@davidvaknin3801]

Ok....moron

[@markdenyer8072]

the hsv at least 10 years behind the bmw in every way imaginable.

[@ConstantineTheGreatXP]

It's not the car, but the driver

[@nicolasnicolascz701]

try them from 100km to 180km.

[@stinger15au]

+chi zhang which has what relevance anywhere in Australia?

[@nicolasnicolascz701]

you talking about speed limited ?

[@stinger15au]

+chi zhang i mean that in australia at least for a road car a 100 to 180 time is completely irrelevant. 0-100. 0-60. 40-80. 80-120 and similar times are what matter. off the line and in gear acceleration from low speeds. a 1/4 mile is about the top end of relevance

[@mariuszmaxankazuya3170]

sound matters

[@96libertytt]

BMW price the car high to keep the riff-raff away :-)

[@coopsnz1]

lct 33% ' 5% TARIFFS

[@fablan3308]

Kilowatts BHP sounds better you not talking about electric power

[@saycheese7737]

M vs HSV ? u must be joking !

[@uruterus7849]

D'arrh, yes, that was the video u just youtubed

[@jrwilson351]

so the less kw car beat the higher kw car.

[@coopsnz1]

no! hsv gts won dragrace

[@piercethompson7028]

Ben Chesterman are you blind

[@macdonaldjohnstonfan]

As usual you so called 'Car Reviewers' have yet again gotten the price of the M5 wrong. This is consistent with just about every other European car you review, be honest and give the actual price of the car with tax! Also just because you couldn't get the M5 to do the claimed 0-100 time, doesn't mean it can't, you probably don't know how to drive it. I reckon the M4 could have beaten both too, considering its been timed below 4 seconds and its also much lighter. These cars have not and never will compete with each other.

[@danielcollinsYT]

+macdonaldjohnstonfan the 2016 M5 Pure is $185,000 AUD. Research it next time.

[@macdonaldjohnstonfan]

+daniel collins Buddy, I already did my research, I can't believe you think I wouldn't have researched it. With tax added the M5 pure costs just over $200,000 which is the proper price. So when you look it up I believe you will find that I am right, why don't you actually research it yourself before replying and thinking you are being smart by correcting me.

[@SioneLatu676]

+daniel collins dang you just got shit on kid...

[@uruterus7849]

"these cars have not and never will compete with each other"; they just did and u watched it LOL Garbage needs collecting!!

[@ozzyaquanut8903]

spend the extra cash on the Commy with the difference in cost between the Commy and the Bimmer... and the the Commy would whip the Bimmer's ass all day long... and be cheaper to service in its lifetime...and have better re-sale value...

[@ToxicBro-q8u]

Can't eve buy any of these cars anymore in Straya mate.

[@russcattell955i]

Well, well, so much for them two, my favourite V8 car is the sadly missed TVR Griffith 500, though the A.C. Cobra 427 is a close call. Yes they are 2 seat sports cars but who wants 5 seats & space for shopping & golf clubs when you are buying muscle with your cash. The Griff will do 0-100kph in 4.1 with no driver aids, therefore before HSV & M5 owners have finished twiddling buttons the Griff has gone and done it. As for buying muscle, who in their right mind would pay double the price of the HSV for a M5. If someone says style then look again, the HSV looks like a hooners project car but the M5 is pure Dame Edna Everage, i.e. sad old transvestite.

[@uruterus7849]

How'd u go with rust on tvr?, the model u speak of was notorious for it, and its lack of comforts, and how did u go for parts?, not sure what your point is by your comment given relevance to vid

[@Danielo197]

Team Holden

[@dylanweise4802]

Is shame

[@ianharrd]

AND PROBABLY SOMEONE THAT CAN DRIVE! LOL

[@Digga_10]

HSV is over $100k compare with the BMW 340i that is $90k and the same 0-100km and internal size the same. 340i 0-100km 4.6 seconds. 6.8L/100km Combined. Cheaper to service and spare parts a fraction of the cost of the HSV. WIth bucket loads more tech inside and out.

[@uruterus7849]

340i doesn't touch the gts, get in the real world, or go to a track day, better yet supersprints.com.au then check what they think of the gts overseas against m series, i mean really??, get off it mate, if u want massive computer interference cos u can't drive, go for it!

[@uruterus7849]

www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/62383/german-cars-among-worst-engine-failures

[@uruterus7849]

The AAAA, which represents 1300 independent repairs, claims the lack of a mandatory information portal is forcing car owners to go to official dealers for repairs rather than shopping around, stifling competition. "If you want to choose who repairs your car - the dealer or a local repairer - you should buy a Holden, because every other brand finds a way to force you to go back to the dealer and this costs on average 25 per cent more than an independent repairer," said its executive director Stuart Charity.

[@Digga_10]

Funny as with my Holden's I had to stop using local repairer. Even back when I had a VT Commodore with the first 5.7L the front brakes had hairline fracture in the rotors. The mechanic replaced these and couldn't get any warranty on them, when I took into Holden they said Holden could tell if the rotors were from my car and the car needed to be brought to them with them on for repairs and replacement of any parts. From then on had to go to Holden. With BMW I have free servicing for 80 000km and 5 years, so the cheapest car to service that I have ever owned. Also 30 000km between oil changes and the engine does so little damage to the oil. Pretty impressive. This locking to the brand all manufactures are doing the local mechanics are saying, they can buy tech computers that are expensive but don't give all the functions. If buying a old car maybe this is correct, but this HSV is new :-) and expensive for parts I know.

[@uruterus7849]

+Sean Williams But a bmw 300, won't keep up with a gts on a circuit, its still almost in league with m series, yet nowhere near the cost, and at $220 per service at 15000klm, thats much more competitive, and more importantly, reliability.

[@haloaum]

Bmw would eat the gts for breakfast… but journos here think differently…. Gm dollars filling back pockets

[@piercethompson7028]

C63s vs gts

[@iamtuzii]

MY Golf 7R does 0-100 in 3.97 Seconds and costs half of what these boats do

[@Drivecomau]

Sure ;-)

[@iamtuzii]

+CarAdvice.com.au lets have a drag race and see! :)

[@coopsnz1]

You mean 400r , which will cost 100k when it comes here

[@stinger15au]

+CarAdvice.com.au sounds about right for a stage 1 golf R. But I still think its stupid to compare modded cars to stock ones.

[@msemic8]

stinger15au I think it's more stupid calling a Golf R stage 1, a modded car, given the fact the car was intentionally de-tuned by Volkswagen!

[@jo-azizashjari7322]

Hsv is a bogan car

[@ReaLzEdits]

+Tim Miles (Airplanejunkie) Ok. Iv'e had enough of you bagging on the Gen-F Commodore. It is the best car to roll of the line in Australia. Beats Mazda, ford, Hyundai and some BMW's in the quality. Cheap, reliable cars with great quality is what Ford and Holden are all about. Look its all personal preference. But quality inst a personal preference thing. Its a real thing that you have just put your "fanboy" goggles over and decided that its shit. Of course its not THE BEST! But I would actually have to say its the best in the world for the price. Close cars for the price would be something like the CTS-V or the Mustang. Or even the Mazda 6 which is still a very nice curvy car.

[@TheSslover]

It's idiots like yourself which are responsible for any bad name Holden/ HSV have and why the company has lost sales. This is an amazing car, the Commodore is an amazing car. This HSV rivals and betters many cars like this from BMW, Audi or Mercedes, and for half the price of those, you can't go wrong. You want 100% premium built quality, pay that $200,000+ price tag for those other cars!

[@jo-azizashjari7322]

+Lochlan McDermott at the end of the day for the gods sake stfu about these cars. Having a full fledged argument about some unreliable hsv isn't going to do shit

[@ReaLzEdits]

Tim Miles Guys...... He owns a VX Acclaim.... He knows what hes talking about xD Hows them plastic radiator ends snapping off every 3-4 years goin for ya?

[@ReaLzEdits]

Tim Miles Sure xD

[@Jaylaz]

Need a better driver.

[@arsiongowrang2447]

Bmw is the king

[@Cykoid]

use the xr6 sprint you may actually win

[@rocketmagnet427]

hahahahahahahahahaha

[@TheBabyOstritchesCold]

Lol I bet the m5 was an auto

[@maxlewis2461]

This is the biggest load of biased garbage I've ever seen. Clearly set up. These guys should be charged with false information. Hell an M2 or M3 will destroy that Commodore.

[@aydinsalleh9346]

M5 pure class. Commodore fuckin bogans. M5 all the way. The driver of the BMW had a slow reaction time and still won comfortably. I’m SOOOOOO glad Holden is coming to an end.

[@ProMm2.]

Nah holden is better drive not so great

[@jaylocke9574]

I'd spend my $90 grand on an entry level prestige car rather than a performance unrefined meat head machine.

[@ReaLzEdits]

+Lochlan McDermott People don't give these cars justice. Fair enough to bag on the old Holdens. But they don't remember. For the time even the VT Commodore had a great interior for the price. And so on with the old Falcons and Commodores. But yes of course its not as good in today times. Anyway they seem to have gained some stigma to the name which is really sad. They are one of the least deserving companies to have a stigma around them.

[@uruterus7849]

Thats your choice, and u say that its a meat head car shows that your a HATER So go buy your entry level 90k "prestige", have fun with resale and servicing fees because given your comments your not very smart leading me to believe you probably can't afford it There was an article about why euros mark up price in australia by SMH, as one of the dealers said "australians think they are prestige", in other words, they are just an ordinary car

[@coopsnz1]

90k prestige car 335 with 320hp , hsv far better value

[@0210-j6q]

and also biased

[@oldschoolracinggames5729]

if a man would drive hsv here in europe he will be looking as a gay. for sure

[@hsvsv8]

Europe is the capital of making cars for that market. Alfa Romeo, Peugeot, Renault. Not to mention every soft top BMW/Merc hairdressers car. 😂

[@jagdeepsidhu1]

Sergey Popov if Europeans think driving muscle car is gay then I'm not sure who's more gay muscle car drivers or europeans!!!!

[@iloverebeccachambers]

europe is capital of gayland

[@kristianspencer1978]

You get far more admirable glances in a vxr8 than any bmw m5. There’s too many on the roads.

[@swansmeister]

gtf outta here that m5 would eat that hsv all day and should do low 4's even high 3's to 100km/h

[@jeff8827]

m5's have been known to do sub 4's 100k times in the right conditions and hands , bit unfair comparing aussie crap to a real car

[@arivat7699]

"Aussie crap" not only are you clearly stupid but undereducated as well and no I am not Australian. I just finished watching a comparison video of the VF GTSR W1($170k) and M6 Gran coupe($300k) neither were capable of matching their alleged 0-100 times and the race driver clearly noted the Aussie car was better in utilizing the power, brakes and suspension. Question - do we listen to a simpleton like you or do we listen to the expert? You clearly made the dumbest comment under this Y/Tube video, congratulations for being notable at something. Hahahaha

[@fobsters1]

Been driving an "Aussie crap" 2002 VX SS 5.7 litre for 17 years now since brand new...and still "crapping" along...lolz

[@realtywithseankemp9704]

PLEASE GOD AND TRUMP SEND US THE GTS HERE IN AMERICA

[@darryljeremy7041]

Haha, fat, heavy, dinosaur push rod V8's don't cut it against the engineering master pieces of Germany.

[@darryljeremy7041]

@John Winzil I doubt it they can't put there power down. This M5 was the base model. If it had been M5 competition or CS it would have destroyed this HSV, different league. 😜

[@bjmckay3]

Wtf An m3 will beat it!!! Hsv crap!

[@mrjohn5836]

omg this aussie lussie is the ugliest ever rc car that i ever seen lol

[@ralentinovossi8081]

Lol bogan mobile, glad it's gone now.