2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road takes on a Snowy Gold Mine Hill Review

( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road is here and we had to take it up the Gold Mine Hill off-road test. There is snow, icy, and dirt.
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[@MotoErgoSum]

Drums are used in the back to help with articulation clearance as well. People who've converted to discs end up hitting their expensive shocks on the calipers. Most trailers come with brakes, so discs aren't really necessary for the rear. Besides, the pads in those drum brakes are gigantic and have a LOT of surface area contact with the drums. My 2017 Off-Road stops fast when I'm hard on the brakes. They're surprisingly strong, cheap, and easy to service.

[@ricardoburgos5537]

Roman tries so hard to make Tacoma or any toyota look bad or fail I guess he only has Ford Raptor in his mind...Tacoma are great truck period..

[@nathankoroush7918]

Ricardo Burgos , yes his hatred is very easy to see when there is a toyota around.

[@justinmadsen7339]

Ricardo Burgos yes but the Toyota is better off-road and it fits in places the raptor can't

[@stovar1182]

Yeah, he can suck it! I agree, he's always bashing the Toyota's but always get proven wrong.

[@Army4Runner]

True. In the opening scene he’s just flooring it complaining he can’t “get out of the rut.” No shi!t dude...it’s because you’re standing on the skinny pedal. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Really hard to make these trucks look bad, even though I own one and have some gripes. Hitting the “number 6 preset” is not one of them. He’s just being a contrarian at that point. That being said, at the end of the video he gave it 5 out of 5 snowflakes. Is that for the number of Millennials this video offended because of the “global warming” the internal combustion engine contributed to, or perhaps the “habitat destruction” for the Ram truck they spotted frolicking in nature? We’ll never know...

[@PHILLIPS8822]

Roman is the only one I know that can get a Tacoma stuck in snow.

[@Dirtydunton]

Ford guy for ya

[@MrRedskins0021]

He go it out.

[@jdhunt1284]

He's gotta pussy little foot

[@5JSG]

Drum breaks but it still somehow stops quicker than a Colorado/Canyon. Most of the breaking is done in the front.

[@thehayman7352]

Breaking is usually 70% front 30% back I believed

[@rauda3070]

guys this is an outstanding truck! i have it and i don't regret getting it at all!

[@turbo99miata1]

Drove this many times in my '87 4Runner on 31" BFG Mud Terrains, nice scenic drive.

[@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744]

Toyota Tacoma did great

[@gilvietor1918]

You are really quite correct on the radio, we just got one yesterday, and I bet I have hit that 6th preset 5 or 6 times already.

[@DGETHIS01]

I'm very tempted to sell my ram 1500 and get the tacoma. granted I lose power and space but gain offroad ability, reliability, and a bump in mpg

[@victorw5796]

+DGETHIS01 You also lose big time in crash tests. Take a look at crash tests on youtube and you will see what I mean. Not even close. The Tacoma is horrible in crash tests overall and not even close to the Ram.

[@DGETHIS01]

+Victor W I had no idea. another factor to toss into the mix thanks for the info!

[@polebarnexperts]

No the Colorado Duramax all you have to do is put bigger tires on it get rid of the little spoiler in front and no side steps Colorado will I'll perform all of them with these not even close the Chevy has the locker rear end automatic just no contact that's all way better Truck and 3235 miles to the gallon probably

[@JackLambert180]

Thank you so much for putting this up, its crazy I just asked and your putting this up. Thank you.

[@lanceavats8881]

I love my families 2014 Tacoma. Whenever my dad gets tired on long drives out to the woods he lets me drive and it feels real solid. He says he'll give the 2014 to me once he gets the 2016 model.

[@Yogangster1995]

You lucky son of a bitch..

[@cwqrpportable]

Roman, kind of a suspicious start to your video isn't it? We all know, that little clip of the Tacoma, supposedly "stuck" in the snow, will leave a lasting impression that the remaining 7 minutes of video could never change. Was it intentional or just a coincidence that this video was edited in this manner? Would this editing style have applied to the Colorado? I don't think so............ One of the great highlights from this video of this truck would have worked better and been more representative of the final outcome and what I have to assume is your (favourable?) impression of this vehicle's off road prowess. Your compliments of the truck seem "guarded". In any event, thanks for this video. As a serious off roader for many years, I can relate to the video and find myself rightly impressed with this little gem.

[@LikeALeafOnTheWind]

1) Drum brakes are less expensive to maintain, perform very well and are better for dirty sandy conditions. have you never gotten a pebble in your disk brakes? 2) there's a volume control on the steering wheel. i know.. us old guys are conditioned to reach over to the dash, i've hit the preset on mine too.. but the volume is really right there by your left thumb.. right where you need it. Your reviews are great, always enjoyable and informative.. keep up the good work.

[@kylewhisman]

cant say your stuck till you tried crawl control

[@Yogangster1995]

+Kyle Whisman I was thinking the EXACT same thing lmao!

[@loganclaproth]

+Mr. Tbag RIGHT

[@donaldweber7636]

Crawl control is a joke. Just another crutch for those who can't drive.

[@JUKEBOXX1990]

+Donald Weber you mean like a drift mode?

[@TheDeJureTour]

Word... they just keep making the world safer for pussies and idiots.

[@Aliensurfer80]

I currently own a 2016 Tacoma TRD off road access cab with manual transmission it is not the first Toyota truck I have owned and most likely won't be the last. Anybody who has actually taken their truck to do serious off road knows that modifying your truck to your like is part of the fun. Buying a 4WD is always a compromise not everybody wants a set of BFG's KO2's on their truck.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

This series of videos isn't a test of trucks, it's a test of tyres.

[@boss123400]

Roman got a truck stuck again! What's that kid off of The Simpsons, that says, "HA HA"! Yeah, that.

[@Gabez82]

Nelson!

[@boss123400]

+Gabez82 They kind of look alike too. HA HA!

[@IAmTheGuy1477]

7 years later and the Tacoma now has the front disconnect and is as great of a truck as ever

[@jeffhorton8737]

beautiful truck

[@tungol00]

Hey Roman if you don't like the volume knob, here is a simple solution, use the volume control on the steering wheel.

[@RarelyReplies]

Great video. Would like to have seen it with more snow. But, like you said. Can't control it.

[@dirtrider88]

totally agree with the volume knob. same could be said about the tuner knob but I havent used that in the week Ive owned it and probably wont very often. I actually never really use the volume knob either since it has steering wheel controls. as far as drum brakes go Ill be happy with them until they fail or have an issue. they stop fine and i dont recall every hearing an issue with them. Im not racing my taco so I dont see them being a problem.

[@angelguzman4955]

Toyota is the best love toyotas i would like to own one bit cant afford it but is still the best nice video thank u for all ur other videos too nice work thank u

[@andycampbell3599]

Roman great run with the tacoma. I love my drum brakes also. can you run that truck up goldmine hill when there is more snow?

[@johnganshow5536]

I have the 2017 version, you can change the volume on the steering wheel. Don't have to reach for the volume knob on the radio..

[@rivrat59]

I have the same rig in blue except access cab. no regrets .

[@jhkleinberg2]

So your have fat fingers and hit the number 6 preset. Your hands should be on the wheel anyway. Use the steering wheel volume control that's what it's there for. Nothing even comes close to the tacoma off road and anything that does I'd 60k and up in price.. Once again Toyota built an amazing truck that performs and is reliable as well. Yes, I love my 2016 Trd sport!!!

[@1FiftyOverland]

I think my 2015 f-150 supercrew fx4 with 2.7l ecoboost has this taco beat. And it's only cost 41k.

[@Yogangster1995]

+Celticking1987 Sure it has...

[@1FiftyOverland]

+Mr. Tbag hard to tell. you agreeing or being sarcastic?

[@Yogangster1995]

Celticking1987 Haha a little of both. Just trolling around the TFL truck channel really.

[@brandonshafer1220]

Jeep Wrangler Rubicon?

[@KhmerBoy82297]

should of talked about the a-trac system and if you were using it or not, also those tires are not "Goodyear adventures" they are "Goodyear armortrac".

[@MetaView7]

You could make this an one hour episode and people would still ask for more.

[@ZepG]

When is Toyota going to put real off road tires on their TRD "Off-Road trucks"? Some BFG Ko2's would have never got stuck.

[@Aaron-or6ov]

Did you use the crawl control the vehicle came with or just regular 4wd?

[@robr.3247]

I’m just curious as to what modes you were using to attempt this experiment. I heard mogul, but, were you in 4L using crawl control during all 3 tests? Thanks for the answers and all your great content.

[@RCPhotosVideos]

There is nothing wrong with drum brakes

[@gregobrien6912]

Correct, powerful disks would try to lock the back wheels on a pickup

[@Stuka87]

+Greg O'Brien Thats why there are these things called anti lock brakes. The computer controls how much braking pressure goes to each wheel independently.

[@gregobrien6912]

+Stuka87 i do no that, my rear brakes dont seem to do anything, especially in the mud unless im in 4wd

[@Stuka87]

Greg O'Brien I guarantee you they do a lot. If you were to disconnect them, and you had to panic stop, you would find the truck would not stop straight, and it would take longer to stop.

[@ToAstYNaChO]

+RCPhotosVideos except for the fact that the thermal performance is poor, maintenance is a pain, and they are just dated in general

[@nightfury6836]

I like the rear drums Roman. Discs not necessary IMHO.

[@frankmagana1408]

It will be when your close to rear ending someone and you slam on the brakes and you dont run into the back of that person because you have 4 wheel disc brakes. Drum brakes should only serve one purpose nowadays, and thats to sit inside a disc rotor to act as a parking brake

[@Jets369]

Hope we get to see the Silverado take on Gold Mine Hill. Preferably a common package like an LT would be nice since thats what most people purchase. Probably would need some better tires than stock.

[@weekendwarrior8179]

did you use that crawl button, whatever its called, that's supposed to get you unstuck in anything?

[@SteveRobReviews]

Wow Eric O from South Main Auto highly recommends that truck as well. I can see why, just incredible .

[@zonie1953]

+Steve Rob Eric O. IS the man. A real mechanic.

[@SteveRobReviews]

+zonie1953 one of the best channels for sure.

[@justinp8946]

oh really didn't know that. he is awesome

[@SteveRobReviews]

+George A man I'd love to have one. Awesome...

[@aleoimpala]

Nice little pickup truck!

[@JUKEBOXX1990]

Can you take this truck on the harder off road trail your guys found? Thanks

[@Acreyman]

Still want to see the stock SR5 hit this. I don't think anyone doubted the TRD off-road would make it. I am getting a 17 SR5 when they start rolling out so I am just curious.

[@codyrobinson22]

Do you like the Sony action cam vs the GoPro better?

[@rickkeegan9389]

When you were stuck in the opening and closing shots, did you try using the crawl control feature?

[@johnnynguyen4907]

how come there was never a 2016 tacoma trd real world mpg video yet. its suppose to be the new aki motor?

[@sumit_john]

4:45 you mentioned your gripe with the Tacoma having drum brakes at the rear. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I always thought pickup trucks had drums at the back since drums are way better parking brakes. If you've your truck parked on a decline at max payload, the drum parking brakes can be applied even if the power assisted normal brakes goes off when the engine is switched off.

[@donaldweber7636]

Rear disc brakes have drum style parking brakes built in. Most of them anyway.

[@MusicLover-ti6zo]

I would like to see a review of the Chevy Colorado Train Boss Diesel going up Gold Mine trail which would end the debate on whether or not the Trail Boss additions improve off-roading or are mostly cosmetic.

[@polebarnexperts]

they need to get rid of the front spoiler and the stepside

[@leadnsteel]

+Jeffrey Kee (Musiclover999) Naw its just cosmetic looks. Im waiting for the ZR2 in 2017

[@chevroletss8158]

when are you going to take a z71 colorado or all terrain canyon up gold mine hill?

[@DEXTER32506]

why wouldn't you change the volume with the steering wheel controls?

[@thegreatga]

Roman, did you notice lack of head room? I know your as tall as I am, and I hit my head when I test drove one.

[@DXTBOW]

CRAWL MODE to get out of icy situation, does it work?

[@jfgaluardi]

Through how much of this were you using the crawl control?

[@Bravo_Kilo_Kilo]

Roman I was wondering how tall are you and if you had any visibility issues. I heard the Tacoma is not your friend is your taller.

[@weekendwarrior8179]

how is the break over angle

[@Sikh1.5Accord]

Can you do a gold hitch test with the 2016 ford f-150 xlt 4x4

[@muzafaraleme9664]

He previously said that fords can't climb this hill so he won't do it.

[@732outdoors]

@ the fast lane truck did you have to use the diff lock?

[@moviewatcher1024]

Those rear drum brakes must go! Heavy, unsprung weight, rotational weight, translational weight, they more than offset the benefits of aluminum wheels. They are also harder to work on than discs. If you are towing you would appreciate disc brakes on the rear.

[@ardagumusalan6043]

Roman you make this truck look small :)

[@nestr2007]

Have y'all done the Canyon on the goldmine yet

[@stevepaccioretti8775]

when you were stuck did you use diff lock or crawl control

[@donaldweber7636]

Diff lock plus ice equals nothing.

[@dirtmerchant18]

why not use steering wheel control for volume

[@BadBrian303]

So were you stuck w/ rear dif engaged?

[@anthonymancuso7272]

will u guys do stuff with the 4 cyl tacoma?

[@Thebluebimmer]

Can you guys take an offroad (not a pro) to cliffhanger 2?

[@pahuntnut]

I was going to pull the trigger but everyone shows how it can do this or that. But what about every day ergonomics. Im 5'6" so i have to pull the seat forward to the steering wheel. The top of my legs hit the bottom of the wheel getting in and out. My left leg rides right next to the door. The passenger seat has a strong vibration when at idle.. we have three toyotas so im a fan. But not the new tacomas

[@enzokool]

can you test f150 2.7 not fx4 edition?

[@canddmeyer]

What's "suspention"?

[@Marco-ce8kr]

Stuck in snow? why you guys didn't use the crawl control? man! and yes tacoma needs different brakes and power seats in upper trims.

[@flycubfly]

You feel more confident with rear disks ?? What are you afraid of ? Drums have worked just fine longer than we have been around .

[@Spreadsomekindness]

What's the difference in the TRD off-road and the TRD sport?

[@TROllingNINJA2031]

nothing really. it says "sport" cus it has a fake hood scoop and a front splitter for better aero but who the hell gets a truck for that. the sport doesn't get the upgraded suspension and more importantly the rear locker that the "off-road" and TRD Pro has. besides that they are the same.

[@joshakaoger69]

take the new rav 4 hybrid up like the commercial.... maybe against a forester etc

[@christophergross8306]

The Tundra needs to step up their game with the tires, that would be by far the best off-road truck if it had the to amass tires.

[@goldrush7863]

I preferred the Chevy Colorado over the Tacoma. That is the first time I preferred any other truck in this size class over any Toyota.

[@aquamiumg6201]

I heard you guys got a foot of snow today. It's time to retest the Tacoma and the Powerwagon to see if they earned those snowflake ratings!

[@1guyin10]

You guys really need to buy a receiver mount winch setup to carry with you on these offroad adventures. One tow bill and you've spent more.

[@bradleyh.gamesandaquatics9037]

I like the 2017 Toyota Tacoma trd pro

[@williamhugelmeyer2702]

How do you give the Tacoma 5 snowflakes when you get stuck in the snow??? You didn't use the rear diff lock while you were stuck, so I'm starting to think your truck wasn't equipped with it or it didn't engage. Considering the little snow that was encountered I find it funny you got stuck.

[@donaldweber7636]

Ever hear of this thing called ice.

[@williamhugelmeyer2702]

Why yes but it still does explain why the rear axle was peg legging. Also it looked like plenty of snow and dirt was flying to me... Too bad it was only 2 wheel throwing it.

[@stephanematis]

Tyres?

[@m.stefanov]

You call that "Snowy"? WHERE IS THE SNOW??????

[@rondavis9918]

+Милен Стефанов yeah, but there is ice under that snow....

[@m.stefanov]

+ron davis you call that ICE? Stage 1 is easy if there snow is under 10 inches- forget about it... In fact 65+% of Stage 2 is just dirt... Yes, it's frozen dirt but still is dirt- not hard enough conditions even for a crossover like CR-V... Stage 3 is almost the same- on important places there is NO snow or ice... In reality every off-road machine with 2 locks and proper tyres will climb that hill easy...

[@rondavis9918]

well, by the videos they have had in the past, I don't see the point of trying if it's just ice or 10 ft of snow. Most of the trucks they have had don't have winches, except for the raptor.

[@texasstealth1911]

+Милен Стефанов you sound very dumb... it doesn't have 2 lockers. only a rear locker. this is a very challenging obstacle with or without ice or snow. it's just that much more difficult with ice or snow.

[@m.stefanov]

+texasstealth1911 really? I'm dumb? OK, explain me difference between FULL-TIME(or all-time, permanent- call it as you wish) 4x4 system with engaged 2 locks (center & rear) and PART-TIME 4x4 system with engaged rear lock... In fact there is NO DIFFERENCE- you will always have 3 (yes, THREE- 2 rear & 1 front) wheels spinning with same speed. Tacoma uses PART-TIME 4x4 system (as any pick-up truck)- when you shift from 2H to 4H this is equal to 4H + locked center diff in Land Cruiser. When you engage rear diff lock how many locks you are using? Hope you can count to 2... And yes- it's challenging obstacle even without a snow... But for a crossover- NO for a serious truck with 2 locks...

[@user-lw3kz2kv3y]

Привет вам с Урала Свердловская область город Лесной! Мы вас тоже смотрим

[@cbmathews0440]

Volume on the steering wheel player

[@ryanmartinage]

taco power!

[@codyrobinson22]

So does the Raptor still hold the #1 Best offroad truck spot?

[@atadoff62]

+Cody Robinson Power Wagon. Raptor is good but rigged for running dunes, PW is a rock crawler.

[@cds22cgs15]

Guys, raptor video?

[@TucsonDude]

Do I see a sunroof on that truck? Now, I want one...fur shur!

[@JUKEBOXX1990]

Edslittleworld I really wish I got one with a sunroof. It would be great when off roading.

[@firstmusic00]

As good as it did....imagine how much better it would perform with some real tires.

[@russellbrown1068]

Taco’s are the shit! Love my 18 Access Cab!

[@anthonymata6461]

You should try the Mercedes Benz 6×6

[@pir842]

I bought a Taco a couple months ago. Good thing I live in FL where I don't have to put up with this crap.

[@226044]

Which one is better: 2016 Tacoma TRD Off-Road or the 2015 Tacoma TRD pro?

[@dash11111111]

+A226044 For offroad purposes, the 2015 trd pro fur sure! Better suspension, tires and more clearance

[@JUKEBOXX1990]

+dash 11 no the 16 has everything the 15 pro has but also gives your craw control/multi terrain select. The 16 is better until the 17 Pro comes out.

[@dash11111111]

That's false. The 15 pro has piggy back suspension all around where the 16 trd does not. Also better skid plates and tires/wheels. The 17 pro and 15 pro are very similar though and the 17 may be better there when comparing the two.

[@JUKEBOXX1990]

dash 11 The 16 TRD Off Road has bilstien shocks and a 9.4 inch lift just like the 15 TRD Pro, but the 16 has crawl control/muti terrain select. Thus making it better then the 15. The 17 TRD Pro is going to have fox shocks which will make it the best Tacoma ever and on par with the Raptor.

[@dash11111111]

ahaha I don't agree with yea pal but anyway, yes the the 17 pro is going to be a badass truck!

[@ThaRudolphM5]

now with a chevy silverado z71 please

[@robvas]

What about the 5.3 they took up the Ike gauntlet a week ago

[@ThaRudolphM5]

ike gauntlet not gold mine hill i really wanna see the z71 silverado in there

[@unitedgray]

@ 6:25..."Suspention" lol

[@fitfam6202]

+unitedgray English isn't Andre's first language.

[@unitedgray]

Dave How do you know Andre typed that?

[@matthewvader8651]

now try doing that with the Colorado and see it fall apart on the trail.

[@great0789]

They have done that trail many times with the Colorado without fail since this vid. In fact it did better than the Tacoma on "Dare". Go to carcomplaints.com and look at the complaints that ended up being on the 16' Taco vs the 16' Colorado. Looks like the Colorado was the reliable one for most folks. lol

[@kohsman313]

wonder if the ford explorer would make it

[@xQuantom]

+justin kohsman I'd like to see that

[@kohsman313]

+Craig Goforth me too, seeing how there's barely any snow on the mine now

[@frofrow]

I was wondering the same thing. Mine has gone more places than a buddies 2013 tacoma trd, and mine is the 4.0l 2009 explorer

[@Yogangster1995]

+Kenner Bowers A lot has to do with the driver as well.

[@ryanthompson9236]

+justin kohsman I think my tracker would make it on this track, even when there is snow.

[@grumpydadjohn4794]

Don't you have volume controls on the wheel?

[@Gabez82]

Ikr, I never use the volume button on the display. That's what the steering controls are for! Silly Roman!

[@donaldweber7636]

I always use the knob. Much faster and more accurate.

[@retiredafce3373]

Why does Toyota continue to put non off road tires on an off road vehicle?

[@goldrush7863]

Probably because 98% of all owners drive mostly on the payment only...

[@Bobbybeb]

I wondered that about the 4runner as well. We have a 2014 4runner and so far it has never needed off-road tires. Out of its 30,000+ miles, it has been off-road less than a hand full of times. The times it has been off road or through deep snow, the factory tires have been great. I imagine most people who want the full off-road capability, would probably want to a specific tire brand anyways and replace whatever Toyota decided to install from factory.

[@THEpicND]

Most people dont go offroad, people often upgrade tires regardless of how good the stock ones are, so might as well make it a good road tire for the majority

[@retiredafce3373]

Bobby0345 at least the 4runner TRD PRO comes with some descent tires.

[@wildbill23c]

+Retired AF CE Because most people never actually drive off pavement. They figure if you are actually going to go offroad you will put your preferred tires on it anyhow so why waste a bunch of money on stock tires.

[@Jimbotron92]

Changing drum brakes compared to disc brakes is a pain in the ass, if I’m paying nearly 38k for a truck I would expect it to have disc brakes all the way around.

[@beexiong2995]

Drums last way longer than disc. So theres a tradeoff

[@Rare_Steak]

Why discredit Toyota's reasons for choosing drum rear brakes? Durability is important on this truck. And why would you "feel better" with all disk brakes if the truck stops well? The Tacoma has a shorter stopping distance from 60mph than the Colorado which has disks on all 4 wheels. I would take plastic bottle cap brakes if they worked better... (just kidding). But from a consumer standpoint instead of an engineering standpoint, shouldn't actual braking performance matter more than what kind of brakes you have?

[@Nahhmah]

The new Ridgeline could take this course mann

[@cobra3371]

I'm not sure how you fit in there! I'm a small guy 5'9 and I had zero leg room! Was not impressed with the room in the 2016!

[@kazz1896]

I'm 6 tall and have tons of room so not sure how you can't fit?

[@cobra3371]

+kazz1896 I felt jammed right up in it no room for my legs to move. Decided on a Titan instead

[@Pabloperes675]

I am 6 foot 240lb fit just fine

[@SplendidMoose]

I still think they should fit the rear axles with disc brakes.

[@zonie1953]

+martin figueroa In harsh climates, where Toyota sells many of these trucks, there is problems with rear calipers freezing up.

[@SplendidMoose]

Then sell them with drum brakes in those territories.

[@AkioWasRight]

+martin figueroa That's exactly what they're doing. The Tacoma is sold mainly in North American, and we have some of the harshest climates on earth.

[@Yogangster1995]

+martin figueroa I think they should offer disc brakes as an option. That would satisfy most people.

[@SplendidMoose]

+emdec55 then why is it that, here in North America, most other cars and trucks in that price range have disc brakes all around?

[@headcas620]

Suspention ;)