2016 Yamaha MT-10 - Episode 7 - BJ's Blog

Latest episode features a new y-piece and can from SP Engineering, and some more yap about the MT-10 and new MT-10 SP!
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[@browie316]

Thanks for the update BJ. I bought an MT-10 four days ago. Your blog played a big part in that decision. Yamaha owe you! :)

[@fastbikes]

Thanks chap, enjoy the bike! And let Yamaha know this! ;-)

[@dg8062]

Excellent blog as I have a '18 mt10 here in the states. I personally like quieter a little better. Austin racing or SC Project nice but ungodly loud. Initially, I just flashed my stock exhaust mt10 and got 149whp. Going to do a decat link and leave the stock titanium slip-on in place. Beware: they are QUITE loud with a de cat link pipe and stock slip-on. Whatever you put on, proper tuning/flashing a must.

[@cez49]

when i saw the mt10 sp colour screen i instantly was like i need that lol, I would love to see how good that aim screen is.

[@fastbikes]

Good to hear!

[@nickprice3605]

Great videos though. Very thorough and informative. I know you've said before about really only doing "performance" mods but an Evo Tech Tail Tidy would do wonders for your back end

[@davidburns670]

Great blog, great magazine. Love the look of the screen and would be tempted to try the handguards too, as for the screen though, looks amazing but £700 is a bit steep just for the sake of colour. Love all the work you guys do, keep it up!

[@fastbikes]

Thanks David! I get what you're saying about the screen, seems many mixed opinions on it, for and against.

[@kao_uk]

Awww, that SP is properly nice. I would love to see your build vids of how to upgrade the normal MT to SP spec. Do it!

[@fastbikes]

I'll try!

[@alnadeau661]

again. great work with mt10. the new sp mt10 will have factory upgrade readout. going to hold out for that one.

[@fastbikes]

Sweet, will probably be worth the wait!

[@pags1981]

Yup the AiM dashes look awesome, am eying up the MXL2 dash for the ZX10R. Heard that the support was a bit meh

[@fastbikes]

Well, I haven't heard back from them yet!

[@grantmotox123]

Had my MT10 ecu flashed. Amazing results over stock! Worth a try for sure

[@omarobin]

Any change in fuel mileage?

[@fastbikes]

Sweet! Still waiting to hear if I'm allowed to do it, this does belong to Yamaha don't forget and most manufacturers detest flashing ECUs especially if you do what we do.

[@grantmotox123]

rsyjseo, whilst cruising its slightly better When nailing it, the same

[@grantmotox123]

Fast Bikes Magazine that's understandable, doubt they will allow it

[@fastbikes]

Never know!

[@V35Skyline350GT]

Instead of the Aim unit, look into the OEM color dash piece from the new MT-10 SP. I'm thinking of doing it myself but being in the states I won't be able to get my hands on one for awhile.

[@V35Skyline350GT]

and I should have waited until the end of the video to comment. :D

[@fastbikes]

Not sure if it will fit to be honest, in that there will plenty of suspension options on it that isn't applicable to the stock MT. Plus, it's an OEM item so will likely cost a bomb!

[@HooMeye]

Please test the AIM dash. Looks very nice.

[@kratus68]

Great series of blogs. Am picking up my new mt10 next wk. I hold you responsible!1 Big thx. Would like to see the colour screen and how easy it goes in.

[@fastbikes]

Ha! Let them know that! Screen i fitted was a piece of piss, five mintues fit.

[@scotwilson4169]

If I got one of these I'd get the whole touring pack thingy, then just take the screen off for weekend rides. But I think the look is complete with the screen, Handguards and soft panniers. Doesn't quite look right with just a screen

[@fastbikes]

Will see, screen has arrived!

[@kalheer]

That dash.. you gota test it.. would love an SP dash but if there cheaper alternatives then yes plz.

[@outwithsibs8094]

Mate, I watch your Vlogs all the time (my most highly anticipated as they are ALWAYS useful!). I've got an MT-10 myself, and i saw the old SP can you had, and I got the same one because I loved the sound of it! In regards to the heated grips, I'm in London mate, and I ride through the winter too. I've already got the heated grips by Yamaha, and tbh I don't think they are all that! I had the Oxford sports ones on my old CBR600 and they were absolutely quality! So...just an FYI, you may be better off getting the Oxford ones? Also, I'd LOVE to see the new aim coloured dash! I've done some research on it and it looks great, so defo see if you can get one on your bike and I would highly consider getting one myself! Keep up the good work bro!

[@fastbikes]

Interesting about the grips dude, will see how mine are if they ever come! Yeah I kinda love the old SP can too, just plain naughty!

[@foresterblack]

I've been looking for that setup, where can that new shorter Y-Piece be bought from?

[@SineOccasu]

Windscreen, and heated grips for the winter. I have full on hand guards on my DR, and all I keep thinking in the winter is "I wish I had f*cking heated grips" haha.

[@fastbikes]

Ha!

[@ryanburns1455]

Can you try the low decat pipe with the stubby carbon fibre moto gp2? loved the sound of the first setup and really want to hear the shorter second y pipe with the first can

[@andrewspooner8146]

Thing is when you say that it has only gone up a few deciblies those few decibles is actually doubling the amount of noise it makes. Say you had a speaker that kicked out 100 db and you needed it it to be twice as loud then you would have to increase the volume by 3 db. So, yeah... that thing must have breen freakingly loud at 10,000 rpm.

[@fastbikes]

To be honest I was plunging deep into mostly long forgotten memories of when I used to work in the House music industry a long, long time ago, where a sound engineer explained it to me, how sound works. I could probably look it up! But it was very, very loud (the previous can), this one is still loud enough but nowehere near that one. I still liked it though!

[@andrewspooner8146]

I believe you on how loud it is, I really do I am just saying that it is a huge increase and I dont blame you for changing it.

[@michaelelwood6905]

Tried the hand guards didn't like them one bit. With the screen it did look like an adventure bike. Plus the fact they didn't really work. Maybe deflects 50% of wind blast and 0% rain. Took them off and ebayed them after 50 miles.

[@fastbikes]

Hmmm, interesting, screen has arrived so I'll find out soon!

[@BHPBikesuk]

The MT 10 is awesome and I am seriously considering the SP version :D

[@fastbikes]

You'll be grand with either one I reckon, SP launch is next year.

[@BHPBikesuk]

Yep I am hanging on to see the SP at Milan :D

[@HadesHinz]

Hey BJ, the colored Dash is a cool idea. I would like to see if it fits and works fine. To the original yamaha windscreen, dont pick that one up. it looks way too bad. How about the Puig Windscreen? It replaces the front and in my opinion its a way better solution than the bolt on Yamaha screen. Greetings keep it up!

[@fastbikes]

Yamaha screen has arrived so I need to at least give it a go, then I'll take a look at the one you suggested.

[@HadesHinz]

I found just now another one from De Pretto Moto. This one is made from Aluminium. www.deprettomoto.com/en/motorcycle-accessories/race/yamaha/mt10-2015/1637/

[@fastbikes]

Cheers!

[@unlikemike6884]

The new MT-10 SP has a full coloured dash :D

[@lukaszg74]

ok now important question mt10 or superduke gt in the background

[@RobertStubbs91]

I may have missed it somewhere in one of your blogs but what did you do with the servo motor and the AIS?

[@andgem8072]

No interest in a dash unless the SP dash is possible. I'm interested in exhaust options. Specifically the Two Brothers S1R. SC project, Austin racing, M4, pipewerx, or Remus. Really on the fence on which exhaust to go with. Anybody out there go with an exhaust and have any thoughts?

[@derz1978]

Shame no on board sound check with the new exhaust..

[@fastbikes]

I'll get around to it!

[@vainparasite]

I really fancy an mt10 but I've a feeling it's going to be a little bit too much for me, I'm knocking on a bit now and I don't fancy running everywhere on one wheel. I'm not a huge fan of the mt09 styling and the sound of the 10 is immense

[@chrismeyer902]

hey man, what is your take on danmoto exhausts compared to a lot of the other slip-ons out there? i had the black gp one on my cbr600rr and i thought it sounded fantastic but i dont know the difference between the expensive akrapovic/remus and the danmotos. ! was thinking of getting the xg1, do i waste my money on a danmoto?

[@fastbikes]

Ooo, not seen one of those for ages, but if memory serves they're decent! Power gains seem similar across brands from what I've seen without mapping the fuelling, so much of it is down to personal choice on looks etc.

[@deadbugdavey1744]

still waiting on my can and decat. it was my bike they used for r&d but Dave's had a hard time. I absolutely can not wait for it! the bike with just a slip on is too quiet! instead of pcv why not flash the ecu?

[@fastbikes]

Ahhh, twas yours! I'd love to do the ECU but the bike isn't mine. I've asked Yamaha and await their response.

[@deadbugdavey1744]

Fast Bikes Magazine I'm hoping to flash mine but the year is disappearing fast and I'm still waiting on my exhaust decat! like the new shorter one,but not sure if it's loud enough!!! 😉

[@Ghost_moto_WPN]

I really want to see that Aim dash on one of these.

[@fastbikes]

Many do, though some aren't bothered. Think I'll ask anyway!

[@westers151]

Meh, to the colour display; I'd have one, but fecked if I'd pay £700 for a bit of colour. :) I'd like to see after market suspension tests - try to get better than the SP's kit, but for slightly less money; think Maxton, KTec, Nitron, etc. And if you really want to do bling, get that primer painted.. (I should be on the stage...the first stage out of here, badoom, tisch!!) And great Vlogs - these have made me buy the magazine, whereas I was buying another one before. So, keep 'em up (Mind you, a digital version of the Mag would be great)

[@fastbikes]

Funny enough, have just had a conversation about Nitron, watch this space! And thanks for the mag praise, it's fun but bloody hard work! :-)

[@fastbikes]

Oh, forgot to say, we do a digital version, have done for years now!

[@ownyourworld]

Get heated grip and the hand guards and have a nice cocoon of warmness around your hands .

[@fastbikes]

It's tempting!

[@ownyourworld]

I miss my gs purely for that reason :)

[@fastbikes]

Well, if you're going to miss a GS for anything, it's probably that! Ha ha!

[@ownyourworld]

😂😂

[@BorisKarloff66]

BJ great Vlog nice to see you keeping up the good work. Have you tried the bike out on track since altering the suspension settings? Did it make a big improvement. And would any of the aftermarket cans you tried be allowed on track with there noise db's.

[@fastbikes]

No not yet, but will try to before the weather sets in!

[@tubeyouianzz]

great video intro! i'm guessing the quickshifter makes it easier to go up the gears on the back wheel?

[@fastbikes]

Sure does! Was pretty good as was mind you.

[@CeeRTee]

Great blog! Anychance you could try out the hand gaurds? and maybe the tall screen? im thinking about taking mine mile munching so fancy seeing if they are worth it cheers. Oh and yes i picked my mt10 up 3 months ago and im alittle p*ssed about the mt10sp but to be honest i would only want the dash, electronic suspension is for showing offs in pub car parks, i had an s1000r with it for just over a year and honestly can count on one hand the amount of times i adjusted the suspension....wish i had saved the money and bought dymag wheels etc instead. Thanks

[@fastbikes]

Have asked for the guards, screen has arrived though so will fit when off deadline. Funny you mention Dymag wheels, may be some coming for the MT!

[@mahmoodabdulhakam2838]

The worst part is, other than the SP, is that, 2017's base model MT10 will get a QS as standard....Im more gutted about that than anything else!

[@fastbikes]

Yeah that's a kick in the teeth, but thw way it goes too. Still sucks!

[@Miguelito0oO]

Why don't you check if you can replace the dash for the original Mt10 Sp model better than the Chinese Gucci one.

[@fastbikes]

A good point, I'll ask Yamaha if they can offer that but at the same time (With the electronic suspension stuff wired into that dash) I doubt they will. it'll also be a lot more expensive than the AIM one if it is a possibility.

[@fredrikmehlin]

Hey mate! You talk sometimes about the tuono in comparison with the MT-10 and now the SP and the new tuono with corner ABS will be sold next year here in sweden. What do you think? Tuono factory or MT-10 SP? Thanks for the vloggs! They are great! Ride safe!

[@fastbikes]

Oh, cripes, I will say we will know more next year when we get the chance to put them head to head. The current MT is awesome and I do love it, but the Tuono is a rather special bit of kit and that's reflected in the price. Current versions of both will be in the mag out in a month or so, FYI.

[@robbybarron]

Id like the bling Dash on Mine but only if its a plug and play unit, also on Vlog 6 what was the measurement for the static sag im mm front and rear Thanks Rob

[@fastbikes]

Rear was 15mm after we had adjusted it, was more than 25mm as stock if memory serves. I'll look up the front, can't remember off the top of my head!

[@robbybarron]

Thanks that's great Front would be handy as well, ill try the settings and see how I get on with them thanks Rob

[@neilrr1000]

Has anyone lowered the MT or have you guys looked at it for shorter riders? Will you be looking at Yamaha's new map's for the MT? Also would it not be easier to get the new MT-SP color dash instead of the AIM one? Bit of a kick in the teeth realising it late.

[@theavangelist]

neither surely, custom map based on that bike going over to the guys with the dyno?

[@neilrr1000]

If he fits the power commander it would be better but yamaha have a better map thats not as jerky as the current and may be a better option for the people that cant afford a PC. May be worth a look?

[@fastbikes]

As stock it was already quite low and can be made a bit lower via the stock setup, but otherwise I'd have to have a look about to see if anyone else has done it. Not sure the SP dash would be a go-er, lecky-suspension options on there etc and It'll cost a bomb direct from Yamaha.

[@fastbikes]

PC V has arrived so it'll go on soon, it's not jerky at all in STD mode, only B.

[@triv7252]

surely that's way too loud for the road? I reckon the old bill would have that removed within 10 minutes, so what's the point?

[@fastbikes]

The new one is fine when burlbing along slowly, not that loud, the last one was a bit fruity though!

[@triv7252]

is that why SP have developed this new system, to specifically reduce the noise overall?

[@fastbikes]

No, this is a system for their own product only from what I can gather and especially the Diabolus line. They actually thought it'd be louder than the previous one, but it's turned out wuite the opposite with the longer can despite the shorter y-piece.

[@mraki1980]

Hi BJ, thanks for doing this vlog. I definitely going to buy brand new MT-10 next spring, and im in love with SP. Whats your opinion about this "update"? I had an FZ1 Fazer , and it was great bike, I've already tested MT-10 this year and decision was made althought it will hurt so much. I have to sell my beloved R1 (RN19).Czech republic fan :-)

[@fastbikes]

The Fazer was a good bike it's true, and very good value for money, but the MT knocks it into a cocked hat! As for the SP, if someone can afford it then fair enough, go for it, how it fares against the stock bike we'll find out after the launch next year.

[@ianchapman8670]

Another great video . Just picked up my MT10 days after the SP was announced so a bit gutted but would love to upgrade the standard to nearly the same without the Ohlins. Will the R1 dash be a straight swap. Heated grips are the future just not sure about them being wired permanently live. i.e. I can take the key out and accidentally leave them on. Is this correct . Anyone else had this ? Only got 101 miles on the clock but looking forward to many miles on the old girl.

[@ianchapman8670]

Thanks for that Andy👍. It will save me from looking like a dork when it goes in for its service and I ask them to re Eire it. More Yamaha ingenuity.

[@fastbikes]

Thanks Ian!

[@martinsrubiks]

this is one nice eMpTy-10. What MPG are you getting lately?

[@fastbikes]

About 34mpg average, bit more on motorways and can squeeze 150-miles out of a tank if using the cruise-control bang on the speed limit.

[@browie316]

BJ can you tell us the length of the two different end cans please. It looks around 350mm now with 300ish on the last one?

[@fastbikes]

I'll ask SP, they may even watch this and post an answer themselves, will give them a nudge.

[@spengineeringltd5798]

browie316 First option was 250mm sleeve length stubby. New version fitted is 300mm XLS sleeve length.

[@browie316]

Thanks gents. Love your work!

[@foresterblack]

Where can that seemingly shorter link pipe be purchased? I'm loving this whole setup and would like it for mine.

[@fastbikes]

From SP Engineering dear boy.

[@BlueHokage]

Has anyone tried different handlebars/clip-ons on the 10 yet?

[@fastbikes]

Not here, anyone else?

[@tubeyouianzz]

mt 10 forum, loads, risers lowerers etc.

[@johna6968]

As the dash does nowt for performance, handling, braking etc, I'd swerve it.. But then again it isn't mine :-)

[@fastbikes]

Fair comment!

[@dant565]

Get the dash. Is it plug and play?

[@fastbikes]

Yep pretty much as far as I'm aware.

[@dant565]

Fast Bikes Magazine Definitely talk to them then about doing a promo on it. Keep up the great vids.

[@fastbikes]

Thanks Dan!

[@richardmorton5650]

MRA screen please!!!

[@fastbikes]

Okay!

[@8654ZuluFoxtrot]

So how upset are you about the announcement of the upgraded MT-10 SP? I am soooo glad I held off on buying the non-SP version. Here's a link for those who don't know about this yet. www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/products/motorcycles/hyper-naked/mt-10-sp.aspx

[@fastbikes]

I'm not at all, but I imagine there are some MT owners who are, and as many who aren't too. The bigger bummer is a QS on the new model as stock!

[@rich.dodd1]

Why would anyone buy a £13k mt10 when the s1000r is better in every way for a lot less money? I test rode the mt10 and honestly didn't like it. FYI I own a gsx s1000 not a s1000r

[@cornish_boy6235]

tail tidy!

[@A.J.1656]

It's like a fender eliminator but with a cute name.

[@cornish_boy6235]

A.J. Hendrickson you've never heard the term tail tidy?

[@jerryx2000]

Seriously what is the fuck'n use of this review. You have a non road legal exhaust on without a cat and a pre chamber.

[@fastbikes]

Hi, thanks for taking the time to post. In answer to your questions - firstly, this is not a review, nor a test. This is given away somewhat by the fact neither word appears in the title or accompanying text for this, or any of these MT blogs. Our reviews and tests appear in the magazine, our bread and butter, if you will. This series of videos is a blog, or vlog, about my time with the MT and what modifications I make to it while it remains in my tenure. A big part of Fast Bikes Magazine's remit is to modify longterm machines and report on them. Usually this happens within the magazine but in this instance, also on our KZbin channel. Changing the exhausts is simply one step we undertake to every bike we get, as we are after performance enhancements first and foremost, be that engine or chassis related, hence other blogs covering suspension, tyre and brake upgrades. So swapping the exhaust is par for the course I'm afraid - it's what we do. Ta.

[@karlbratby4349]

there is an off button on your viewing device.. so if you dont like dont watch.

[@rich.dodd1]

Why would anyone buy a £13k mt10 when the s1000r is better in every way for a lot less money? I test rode the mt10 and honestly didn't like it. FYI I own a gsx s1000 not a s1000r

[@triv7252]

Yes because the BMW will break down several times. On another point and you own a GSX-S, how would you compare it with the MT10? I've ridden the MT and I liked it but the Suzuki is the far better looking machine....and I may buy one.