2017-2020 HONDA CRV - WATCH THIS BEFORE PURCHASE - OIL DILUTION

Why you should not buy a 17-18 Honda CR-V and wait for the 2019 Honda CR-V
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[@themarthafocker4414]

You need to buy Scott Kilmer 's Toyota Celica.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Haha Scotty boy thinks Honda is more reliable than Toyota tho.

[@themarthafocker4414]

EATSLEEPJD....are you on drug? Where in the post does it mention Scotty fans think Honda is more reliable. Toyota is the way to go.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

the martha Focker go watch his video about who makes better engine. That’s what I was referring to.

[@tousshong9438]

Yeah! His old Celica does not used any oil.

[@aaron___6014]

the martha Focker that guy is a not that wise, and his vehicle is nothing special. Plenty of new vehicles with turbos/hybrid systems with well over 300k miles.

[@riccoc.8891]

Thank you so much for taking the time to be fourth coming about this critical problem. You are doing a very good thing, this is how change is really made.

[@moonraiven4835]

Thank you so much for doing this video. Definitely stopped me from buying a honda, which I planned on doing this weekend.

[@jackryder6732]

Honda at one point had one of the best heating systems. I have 2013. Now they are worst. Look into Buick. Very reliable. JD power. Or suburu

[@Pete-un5xq]

Thanks for making this video. Fits my 18 CRV to a T. Have been changing my oil every 3,000 miles to hopefully reduce engine damage. Have 13,000 miles on vehicle now. Oil samples I sent in to get tested came back highly diluted with gasoline. And yes, at 25 below zero you can't keep the windows from freezing up on the inside! Makes the car basically undriveable during Northern winters. Very disappointed in Honda and this is my 4th Honda vehicle. They better come up with a real world decent fix here in the NEAR FUTURE. Been to my dealer and they brushed me off. Not happy. They may have lost a long time loyal customer.

[@4567try]

If your window are freezing the problem is not your car...the problem is how you use it. I live in Northern Quebec and I don't have any problem. You have too much humidity inside your car. Remove the snow on your carpet, use your A/C or open a Little bit your window to remove the humidity and you won't have this problem anymore

[@honestyandlaughter98]

Do you have the 1.5L? Supposedly this problem doesn’t show up in 2.4L models. ??

[@ddistrbd1]

Thank you for sharing your experience with the new 2018 CRV, I was thinking of buying a 2018 CRV until I watched your video now I'm just going to forget about it until they recall or fix the problems, to those of you who keep saying you've had no issues with your CRVs, are you going to ignore the problem until the warranty is up ? this problem is not going to go away.

[@garyduncan160]

Have a 2018 Touring with 22,000 miles on it. Most miles have been highway miles. Vehicle runs great (32+ mpg) and no dilution problems. Had recall performed as well. Love the car. Hope the issues are isolated.

[@robertmontgomery7158]

Hook up a OBD2 scanner and see what temps the ECU is reporting . Good luck

[@kapriseedwards9687]

somebody not taking responsibility........ I love Honda so much I'm so disappointed in them so much for reliability

[@cissplee]

If you have CR-V LX, you will have 2.4 L engine and probably will not experience the problem EATSLEEPJD had. LX and EX have totally different engine, and I wish the Honda put 2.4 L engines on EX model also. Personally I prefer non-turbo engine.

[@NoteAndroid]

Well, the EX "turbo" engine driving dynamics feels exactly like my 2003 Toyota Prius V (the biggest Prius) with a 1.8L. At least Toyota was honest about the 1.8L, they did not put a "turbo" on the engine plastic cap. I'm already looking forward to trade in my 2017 CRV-L to the 2019 Mazda CX5 soon.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Jonthan Lee People with LX also reported oil dilution.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Randy Jackson ya but the 2.4 on CRV is direct ingestion. It doesn’t have the heat gauge issue.

[@martincloutier666]

Here in Canada the lx also come with the small turbo engine, thats probably you will see complains for the lx too.

[@moeanthony9308]

@@martincloutier666 just curious, since when did an lx in Canada come with a small turbo engine? Not sure about that.

[@jamiepearson6448]

I have a 2018 CRV EX-L with about 6500 miles and have the fuel odor in the oil when pulling the dipstick. I have noticed the oil level is above the full mark--1/8 to 1/4 of an inch. I live in a warm climate and began smelling the fuel odor back in Sept--well before we had low temps in the 40s like you. I took my CRV into the dealer recently. The tech said he could smell a slight fuel odor when pulling the dipstick, but he had no idea how to resolve. He said they have not had complaints from other owners and have not heard anything about the issue or pending fix from Honda. I don't have the fuel smell in the cabin or the heat up issue. I do wonder if, in your situation, there isn't a problem with the thermostat in you CRV. We've had some cooler weather recently--upper 30's and low 40's--and I see my CRV heating up pretty quickly. I'm reaching 1/4 reading on temp gauge before getting our of our neighborhood driving at 20 MPH (about 2 miles). And at 45 MPH for a couple of miles, my CRV temp is at the 1/2 mark (middle as you indicated). Outside of this issue, I enjoy the CRV too. I hope Honda can resolve soon.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Jamie Pearson what part of the country are you in?

[@jamiepearson6448]

@@EATSLEEPJD I'm in southeast, so similar climate as you. Definitely not a cold climate area.

[@mrspencer72]

I have a 2017 civic si and after watching this video I just went to check my oil level and odor. It does have some gas odor to it but no noticeable increase in oil levels. I do know that one drawback of having a direct injected engine is that there will be a tinge of fuel odor in the oil, as the injectors are spraying directly into the combustion chamber on top of the pistons, so it is normal for some fuel to mix with the oil. However, if it's excessive as you're stating then there may be more of an issue at hand

[@Hawki777]

Thank you very much for your detailed video. You saved me from buying a 2017 CR-V. I am in Montreal, Canada - and during our 6 cold months of the year (Oct - April) we have to use heat during driving.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

I have few more videos on the issue. The 2019 and 2020 CRV’s should be fine to get.

[@megsman4749]

A dealer once told me that the first model of a new generation usually has a lot of problems that might be fixed by the third model.

[@victorrendon3633]

I have a 2018 Honda CRV EXL, no issues at all, hope it remains the same.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

My temperature gauge doesn't show bars. It is just a solid white line. No problems with it.

[@jamessog8299]

I own EXL and just love the car. Hit 27,000 miles and runs like a champ. Will check the oil to see if I smell gasoline.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

Victor Rendon yesterday the control screen went blank and I couldn’t adjust the radio or anything. I restarted and it was fine. I bit of a worry.

[@andrewcolsen]

I have a 2018 EX-L with 10,000 miles and I have no issues. I've done the dipstick test a few times and I do not smell a strong gas smell at all. I've heard that it depends what engine plant the 1.5 T was assembled. There are few throughout the world where this engine is sourced. My engine was assembled in East Liberty, Indiana and my vehicle was assembled at Honda's Ontario, Canada assembly plant. If you kept your window sticker it will tell you where the engine, transmission and final vehicle assembly was.

[@randyjerrett3062]

This engine won't last, turbo technology the engines won't last

[@rennyortiz8291]

18 CRV with the 1.5T . 68k miles . Recall done . Haven’t had a single issue since . drove from NY to Mrtyle Beach the other day . Love my crv.

[@scottasbj]

They are getting really good at avoiding serious issues. I had to look at TSB's to get a grinding noise taken care of on cold start up's.

[@radmansa5514]

It is a serious issue when gas and oil is mixed in the engine, as it will get destroyed, gas smell in the car is a bad safety hazard. Most car companies have issues one or the other with there products these days... bad, hope they see you right and fix the issue

[@psdaengr911]

Simple solution, eliminate the gasoline engine from the design and no more gas odor.

[@72seeker72]

Thanks for posting. This problem is affecting the 1.5 L Turbo engines, right? I have the 2017 2.4 L 4 cylinder with NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER.

[@nickbadry4122]

Last oil change I took my 2018 honda crv lx 2wd in and asked them about this. They told me this is an overseas recall in the turbo charged models.. My dealership advised me if my particular model is recalled for gas in the oil they will notify me and take care of it for me free of charge..

[@mikeh7434]

Thanks for sharing your vid.. It's amazing Honda and their dealers know there is an issue but yet they act like they never heard about any such thing. You pay so much money for your car and they just refuse to address these issues and give you piece of mind..

[@ClergetMusic]

It’s because they don’t know what to do about it. The only real solution is to replace the entire engine with a different model. Once they acknowledge the problem and provide the service to one, they have to foot the bill for millions of expensive engine replacements.

[@MrVinny873]

I've had this car for 10 months now. not one issue so far.

[@angeloronquillo3429]

The only issue that i got from my 17 CRV EX is the shifter knob. Apparently it's common in the 17 and I'm already at 34k.

[@jcsxyz2005]

Love Honda and had 1990 Accord, 2001 Civics and now driving 2008 Civics. Looking for an SUV for my next vehicle to drive. Was thinking of getting the CR-V or RV4. After reading online and being more informative I am starting to lean toward the 2019 RV4. Thank you for posting and I hope Honda are reading this.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

jcsxyz2005 the new rav4 looks nice. Kind of like a baby 4 runner.

[@kenleesin]

Besides the Accord Civics CR-V, Honda’s Oydessy is another very bad choice.

[@66gardener]

Drive the new CR-V and try out the others. You will come back to the CR-V....a truly great SUV!

[@mikehunt6296]

Was just about to pull the trigger on a 2018 CRV when I heard about this problem. About a month ago Consumer Reports did an article on this issue. I feel as though I dodged a bullet on this by not purchasing. I'm now waiting on the 2019 Toyota Rav 4. Good luck sincerely to you guys who are having these issues. Hopefully they will do a total recall.

[@gregorywills2231]

Check out the Mazda CX-5 as well. Very good reliability and it has a turbo 4 option now.

[@MegaLifeChanging]

And it's not just 2017, 2018! I bought a new 2016 Honda CR-V TOURING, non Turbo. It had the oil dilution bad. 1 1/2 quarts over top line! Direct injection issue!

[@ryanlittleton5615]

I'm honestly really curious how well the new "fix" will help things. I would also like to know why it's so much worse on the CR-V that the Civic and especially the Accord. I love Honda still, but this is just ridiculous.

[@vegantard_5989]

Oil dilution with gas is fairly common on fuel injected cars. The fuel injection pump pressurises fuel to between 40-60psi and after engine shutdown that pressure can dissipate into the cylinder if you have a leaking injector nozzle. I have a 2006 Subaru Impreza and a 2018 Honda PCX150 scooter and both have this issue. My 1999 Honda HR-V also had this problem before I sold it.

[@triniazn]

So glad I bought the 2019 RAV4. Good luck on getting this issue fixed!

[@kirkvanvranken6015]

RAV is junk.

[@BoyJorgey]

I have a 1999 honda CRV with no problems at all..classic always wins!

[@vinr6867]

"at this time there is no issue with the engine" yeah because it will take time to the engine to malfunction and they are hoping these engines won't break until they are out of warranty!

[@boujieekaylonnii5238]

Vin Ramirez that’s exactly what they want !!!

[@baddon6977]

A 2017 touring model cr-v was on my short list of top 3 vehicles I am considering buying. After watching your video I have removed it from my list of considerations. TY for sharing this type of info!

[@americanking253]

Thanks for review I was between Crv and rav4 .now I will go for rav4

[@marcosjararuiz3097]

Ive sold 2017 and 2018 crvs and they have not comback with no issues. Im in California.

[@FirstLast-kb7kn]

Remember when Honda actually made reliable vehicles?

[@user6860]

Any honda with a v6 i trust.

[@moneyseeker8886]

They are still more reliable than any other American car manufacturers out there

[@jasontreyes8078]

Oh man, I just traded my Acura RSX-S this past Saturday for a 2019 CR-V 1.5L AWD, and now looking through oil dilution videos. This is my 3rd day of driving, so I'm gonna smell the oil stick tomorrow morning, the car has 59K miles on it. I'm thinking of getting an oil separator by J&L if this oil dilution to help.

[@johnathanwoodley5005]

The problem what honda did was that they took out the 2.4 out of production those motors are more better and bulletproof than the 1.5 turbo. I have a 2014 honda crv with 92k on it with no problems I stay away from turbo vehicles

[@yamadakoji5388]

The liquid crystal speed meter is best if it can switch between digital display and analog type display. From car fans in Tokyo

[@Tbow499]

Thanks for sharing this issue. As a 15 Accord v6 owner, I’m curious about any issues involving Honda. I really hope they correct this, compensate you and other owners, and correct this in the 2019 model! Thanks again for sharing. 👍

[@commandertaco1762]

Your car is fine. It is naturally aspirated v6 Edit: oh, thought you meant your accord was a 2018 model, didn't see the 15. And as I write this I remember that honda discontinued the v6 accords in 2018nas well . . .

[@mikiw6645]

A friend with one of these just won his case with Honda. They bought it back under the lemon law.

[@kenleesin]

I own the Odyssey since 3 years ago and Honda is not able to fix its many problems till today. I, too, want to sell it back to Honda. Honda sucks in terms of ride comfort and control of the vehicle.

[@livefreeordiehard8898]

Gonna love the lemon law. Wish we have that here in Canada.

[@romangabriel007]

Miki W what state?

[@Da_Baume]

@@livefreeordiehard8898 we do

[@MrDawson777Paintball]

SO HERES THE INFO GO LOOK I HAVE A LX CRV IN CANADA AND IM JUST FINE THE ONLY PLACES THAT HAVE ISSUES is the USA AND CHINA NO WHERE Else I. Have asked before I bought in Canada and I was told I was gonna be fine no issues here

[@rjfvette]

I have a 2017 crv touring with 58,000 miles on it with no problem. Went through many mountain ranges in the north west with no heating problem and live in Chicago. I do all my own fluid changes myself and never had high oil volume

[@harley62t]

Same with me - 21,000 miles on my 2017 CRV Touring - and great gas mileage...36 mpg with combined city/highway miles

[@normt5463]

Richard Ren the Japanese have been using very light weight oil to cheat the EPA fuel economy standards for most of this decade.

[@NFLYoungBoy223]

rjfvette Chicago 😈

[@ignaciovega8500]

73,000 miles on my 2017 crv EX-L AWD, I live at 8,000ft been thru the mud and snow only problem I had is my shift button coming out($40) fix with labor, other then that is perfect still.

[@MrSahansdal]

@@normt5463 I doubt Harley does. 36 mpg combined he says.

[@nomoreserfs]

Sorry to hear that. I have a 2006 Honda Ridgline RTL with 190,000 miles on it. Best vehicle I have owned. It still drives like new.

[@Jbmacrone]

Thank you for this informational video. I was literally going to pick up a new one tomorrow and as a result of this information I am cancelling my purchase. BIG THANKS!

[@guniseran]

New Rav4 with naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engine is coming out soon

[@henrypacheco9048]

“Operating as designed” that’s what they said about my Acura clunky transmission

[@DanFilipi]

Our 18 CRV has about 6,000 miles. I roughly compared it to yours this morning. It’s 45 degrees here, I let it idle 30 seconds or so and set climate to 70 degrees, then I drove the street about a mile to 7 eleven. About 1/2 way there, the heater fan started to ramp up. When I got there I could feel some warm blowing at the floor vent. Temp gauge hadn’t moved up yet. Turned it off and went in the store. Maybe 3 minutes later, started back up and went home, the same mile or so. By the time I got home, temp gauge was 2-3 clicks up and heat was blowing pretty warm. This amount of time and driving all seems on par with my Chevy van and our suburban. For our CRV hopefully we don’t have a problem. The small engine size shouldn’t matter with a properly operating cooling system. I’ll suggest possibly you have a bad thermostat or other abnormal engine cooling system issues preventing it from warming up properly as designed from the factory and to look there

[@EATSLEEPJD]

DanFilipi That’s good. Also check your dipstick for gas smell.

[@DanFilipi]

I smelled and it did smell gassy and over full. I had the wife take it to the dealer yesterday so my complaint was on record. They said gassy smell wasn’t the oil but rather something else near the valve cover hole lol. She didn’t question that statement sheesh. They did at least change oil and filter free, and washed it, yay. So now I have a new oil level reference mark at least, to keep an eye on it.

[@V10PDTDI]

I wonder if the coolant thermostat is stuck open meaning that it get too much cold coolant I wonder why it’s not setting a faut code (check engine light) because usually the engine should heat up to normal temperature within a predetermined time considering the outside temperature if let’s say the outside temperature is 48 deg F ( 9 deg C) then if you drive you’re without any idling time then the engine computer should expect the engine coolant to rise in a predetermined time vs temperature like I said I don’t know why it doesn’t throw engine fault code it doesn’t feel normal to me this is coming from a automotive technician but I only work on European cars I notice on VW Jetta with the 1.4 litre turbo engine I’m from Canada and it gets real cold here I had a customer in really cold day -22 deg F or -30 C they would put the heater fan to full speed and full hot and it did throw a fault code for cooling system bellow thresholds but while driving it would reach its normal temp. Of 194 deg F or 90 deg C but if you let it idle with the heat full blast it would drop down to 158 deg F or 70 deg C but if you would drive it again it would climb back to normal but never has any oil dilution issue the only cars I’ve seen with similar problems is faulty injectors leaking into the cylinder thru the piston rings And finally going into the engine oil.

[@miguelguevara4403]

I have a 2017 Honda CR-V touring, and I don't have that problem. Hope you can get it fix.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

miguel guevara lot of owners with no issue. That’s good !! Just keep an eye out just in case.

[@nicolafertin3154]

That's the weird part doesn't that mean it's something mechanical ? I'll check when I have mine in two weeks

[@scottasbj]

Buy a 4 cylinder Turbo, and this will be the least of your troubles. I would just avoid the CR-V period. We got our grinding noise that occurs at temperatures under 40 degrees F repaired, under warranty, but that is because I know how to find the TSB's and part numbers. Honda seems to have no shame.

[@williampratt6556]

It would be interesting to know a couple of things relative to the 2019 and later CR-V's. 1) how many of you owners have the gas in oil issue? 2) is there a class action lawsuit? 3) does Honda have any plans to replace this engine line in the future? 4) Has anyone seen damage to the engine because of gas in the oil? 5) Anyone used the Ktuner to adjust the engine parameters?

[@madmax2010ok]

Just bought a 2019 EX. Love it. No making oil or slow warm up noted. Have your dealer throw on a new temp. gauge. I live in the desert and wish my car did not ever get really hot! You could verify the temp. problems with a OBD-II plugin device.

[@jono601]

Would you buy the 2019 crv?

[@frankfalquez8638]

Wow i have a 2019 Crv Ex and when i drive to work I get there with a cold car 🤔 No wonder.

[@jackryder6732]

Get rid of it. They messed it up

[@wingwalker27]

I have a 2017 and have not had any of the problems mentioned here yet. I live in New England. So far so good.

[@Kcender57]

Honda has issued a recall for this problem. I just had my 18 CRV done on November 1. Time will tell if it makes a difference.

[@thomasshenton9768]

I’ve had my CRV 2018 for almost a year and I don’t have any problems, the car heats up right away and the heat gauge covers in the middle and stays there. I live in NYC

[@overroadaventuras]

Yeah me too, and I live in massachusetts

[@theobserver7764]

Honda has lost its edge of making good cars. Older cars were made better what a shame. Honda quality has gone down.

[@tashinasimpson1927]

Thats why toyota will always b king.they r going for faster.toyota mines on taking u were u wnt to go..last a life time cost less to fix

[@miriamvivo4279]

Agree toyota lexus numero uno honda dos o tres subaru ?

[@trevorjoseph7789]

I owned 1 Honda never in my life again at 20000k added 1 quart of oil every month

[@tousshong9438]

Yeah, cause the shit is made in the USA now and the Japanese's have adopted the American standard of doing business. Made that shit to be broken sooner then later so the consumers will buy another cars. LOL

[@josephbell2160]

@@tashinasimpson1927 So does mine and it's a 99' Accord V6 so what's your point? I've had it for12 years and nothing but routine maintenance that is it. All of you Honda haters are the same. That's especially true for you Toyota lovers. Every chance you get you want to take cheap shots at Honda just because one individual doing this video is having a little issue with HIS HONDA so now you want to indicte the whole company? SMH As if Toyota never has any flaws. What about the recall of millions of Toyota Prius models with the brake problems? How about the 6th generation Camry (2007-10) with its major oil consumption issues, not to mention brake pads that wear out prematurely. What about those huh? You Toyota loves never want to talk about Toyotas' miscues but you'd attack the very company that you know deep inside is just as good as your beloved Toyota (IF NOT BETTER) So stop with the BS. Honda makes awesome vehicles and Id pick it over Toyota all day everyday but that's just me. You keep your Toyota and I'll keep my Honda. Honda will be fine. I guess that's why you'll continue to hate on it

[@WilliamAlexanderTorresQuijano]

Just noticing that if I were driving my car a similar distance it’s temperature gauge will be showing higher temp at least 30% more.. same weather temp btw. I have a 2018CRV turbo, I am in NZ

[@stevefranklin8052]

I have 42.000 on my 17 Elantra. Has been flawless. 0 issues of any kind. I just pulled out my dipstick and it right on full, and I dont smell any gas in the oil. 2400 miles since last oil change. My car reaches full normal temp in about 8 minutes of driving in winter.

[@frankm720]

Thanks for posting. I was about to buy this car tomorrow.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Frank M glad I can help someone out.

[@tomwright6151]

The 2.4 liter non turbo I have hasn’t had any problems but some say they do , but I researched The CRV and decided against the 1.5 turbo it’s too small an engine and they tried to control engine turbo temperature by computer and some aren’t working..

[@EATSLEEPJD]

tom wright The 2.4 seems to be a safe bet so far. No turbo in the mix to make things worse. Couple of people here and there say they have issue with 2.4 but nothing solid.

[@qwunk1280]

The heat issue is that the cooling system is too good. I have a 2017 ex-l 1.5t. The oil serves the turbo and engine. And then you have a huge radiator and also a secondary cooler for the turbo. An oversized water pump and a ridiculously large heater core. The engine cannot produce enough heat at idle to heat all that water up before its cooled again. I live in Houston so it's not that big of a deal for me. I have not how ever had the oil dilution issue. With about 8k miles on it bought a week after Harvey.

[@mike300406]

exactly our 2011 civic is the same it takes forever to heat it up and in the winter vyou turn the heat on and the temp gauge drops in front of your eye's

[@wyntresorrow403]

My mom has one and when it finally does warm up, if u turn heat on right away, it gets cool again. I live in Pennsylvania. Other than that no complaints. I drive a 2015 civic ex. No complaints. Although it does run a little loud when u start it up. But I love it

[@SCraig-Handsome]

I have a 2020 Honda CR-V and I was assured that this has not been an issue in Canada since 2017. Since there is so many people still Terrified about it I thought I would do the exact same test and compare results with your 2018 and my 2016 CR-V which I just traded in. The shortest drive I would ever take is early in the morning about a mile from my home. I’m in Canada and I’ll do some conversion here but basically this would be typical for any Mom or Dad taking their kid to school in the morning. It’s about a mile each way. I’m a little sensitive to this since I had a similar problem with a Toyota Sienna and Plymouth Acclaim in the past. Prior to driving I warmed up the car for more than 5 minutes then drove. It was 35 degrees Fahrenheit, so much colder than you but mild for February in Canada or the Northern US. By the time I arrived at the school it was about 1/4 warm and when I got home it was 1/2. In comparison to my 2016 it would have still been at 1/4 same with any car previous I have ever driven or owned. In comparison to your 2018 it was definitely better as well but what I will say is your test did not seem typical. It seemed that you never went above 30mph or 1,500rpm. That’s definitely not typical. When you were idling it was at 1,000rpm, at a stop sign 800 and driving only 1,500. In my experience you need to get to 2,000rpm for the car to warm up completely and begin to evaporate the gasoline. Let me touch on my Acclaim though, it began stalling while idling due to the fuel injector flooding the engine with gas. I had to get a new alternator and electrical component replaced to fix the issue. It could still stall if too much gas got in the engine by revving the engine prior to driving. This was typical at the time since prior to fuel injection engines needed this to warm up properly before driving. If you live in a cold weather climate you know cars can be very slow in extreme cold conditions if they don’t warm up properly. If you are in a hurry you’ll feel the performance issues if you just start driving. I feel like in this case my 2020 will not have the same issue, it warms up real fast compared to my 2016 or the 2017-2018 engines. We make Civic, CR-V locally here and Honda has done a lot to customize the Canadian product for the environment. The worst Toyota I ever had was built in Atlanta, prior to that they were built in Japan and recently they are built locally here and also built for the Canadian environment. That has a lot to do with it, getting a product that works great in Texas may not have been designed for Alaska or some other colder climate. Honda obviously has fixed the issue but I’m sure other manufacturers will struggle with the same issue, also controlling emissions has something to do with it too, related to the global climate warming issue

[@wilshirewarrior2783]

A fix for what they deny is a problem.

[@damacknificent151]

They usually say it's normal. There are no check engine light on, so its good. I hate that. I hope they fix this very soon.

[@MoNoK15]

Hey ours look just alike except I have a LX 2.4 Liter. Flawless 💯

[@tomjohns5146]

monok=your lucky its the 1.5 turbo but i am buying a toyota,i went to the honda dealer yesterday and they never mentioned this problem !!!!

[@EATSLEEPJD]

I had the LX at first. Traded it for this lol. Some people with the 2.4 also reported this issue.

[@davem4143]

@@EATSLEEPJD yes, it's not exclusive to the turbo engine, correct.

[@nickbadry4122]

I got the 2.4 liter lx 2wd 2018 honda crv. 11k miles on it so far so good. Turbo with cvt transmission that just sounds weird!

[@qanononabong8491]

@@tomjohns5146 Why would they mention the problem?

[@ShatNdd]

I remember in my old Corolla'2001 (e110) with 2.0 D4D diesel 1CD-FTV engine temperature also went down whet the heater was set to near-MAX heat. There was even higher idle revs (~ +200rpm) when the heater was set to MAX position.

[@afara2000]

I don't know if this is general to most Hondas. I have an Accord 06 that warms up later than any other car I've owned but not as bad as yors. That is kind of annoying during colder seasons. My old Camry warms up pretty quick and still works well after 18 years.

[@6999onur]

Hey I have a 2018 crv ex I notice that when I turn on my car it takes ten minutes to rise but as soon as I start driving within minutes it comes up to the normal temperature and I have now 11k on my car I’m from New York

[@EATSLEEPJD]

onur nayci check your dipstick. It’s about to get winter weather up there.

[@SeanManks]

Today’s modern cars don’t need to really warm up the engines that long anymore. A few second idling is enough & drive slow for a few minutes & the temps will start rising,

[@ontarioobserver1287]

I live in Central Ontario in Canada...No heating problem with my 1.5 litre engine...Has 41,000 kms on it or about 25,000 miles no problems yet..get great gas mileage....This may of been a problem coming out of the Ohio Honda plant where yours was probably built..Mine was built in Alliston Ontario Canada....I am wondering if it could be the US plant got a bad batch of valve seals from a supplier.......I would like to hear from any owners of the Canadian made CRV's to see if they have this problem...Its going to be expensive for Honda no doubt...

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Ontario Observer most of the owners were from Canada. Canada already has a oil dilution fix. The US does not.

[@ontarioobserver1287]

So far I havn't heard of any owners up here with the problem but what is the fix...I know a few owners and we are now aware of the problem as we have watched your video's and others....

[@mackendw]

@@ontarioobserver1287 there are 5 CRV's in my family alone. 2 brother in laws both have this issue fixed in Canada. I'm in florida having it done as I type this. Honda Canada sent the dealer the instruction PUB N60 documenting the fix procedure. Ask you dealer to do the same.

[@ontarioobserver1287]

what did the fix consist of ie: what did the dealer do...

[@mackendw]

@@ontarioobserver1287 Here goes: (from the Honda PUB N60) "This product update includes software updates to the PGM-FI, CVT and climate control systems to limit oil dilution by modifying fuel injection parameters and improving the speed of engine warm up. The climate control system update is a replacement of the A/C control unit. Includes no charge 6 year warranty automatically on the engine." I have to wait for parts to arrive for the full fix on mine...just did oil change. Honda Canada were VERY helpful in assisting getting it done. KUDOS to them.

[@txmoney]

Thanks for the post. Sorry about your trouble with your CRV. Hope you get a proper resolution soon. I’m concerned. Although my 2018 Civic EX-T has a 1.5 turbo, I read that Honda uses a slightly different variation from the CRV in North America. However, the fundamental design is the same. I don’t drive the car much (only 1,800 miles after four months ownership). I already changed the oil after three months. I’ll be keeping an eye on my oil.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

The same engine but different turbo on the CR-V. Thanks not too much worried haha got better things to worry about.

[@minihub67]

When it’s very cold say 30° mine takes a little while to get warm, but nothing like in the video. It’s 51° here today in Atlanta, it was warm and the needle was up within nine minutes. No issues so far other than the shift knob breaking, which many people have issues with. Eight dollar fix.

[@sean2410]

Personally, I would not buy a 2017, 2018 or 2019 Honda CRV until this problem is addressed by the manufacture.

[@louisahren5967]

buy American cars. Support Republican.

[@psdaengr911]

Just don't buy a recent year vehicle with an engine smaller than 2.0 liters, especially not one with a turbo charger. (That's a tur-a bo idea.) ALL of them are recent designs pushed to deliver more power during normal use than ever before, and buyers are the test pilots/guinea pigs.

[@midwestfarm757]

the 2019 is updated.

[@meiyizhao5935]

@@louisahren5967 Ford makes "American" cars in Mexico. GM makes "American" cars in Australia. Ford/GM/Chrysler all make "American" cars in Canada.

[@66gardener]

Checked with a multitude of dealers in our region and not one instance of this have been reported to their dealers. I love my 2018 CR-V and of course, no oil/gas problem. This is a very minimal occurrence problem, otherwise there would have been a government mandated recall, which there has not been. Way overblown. Honda builds a great car!

[@jackmcandle6955]

Sounds like a problem with the wrong thermostat spec’ed causing the pistons to not expand in the cylinder allowing the gas mixture to seep by Blow by

[@dww527]

Just rented a 2018 CRV same problem, with oil temp, never comes off cold in 40 F degree weather. First replace with a higher temp thermostat.

[@cgreeneblue]

Yeah, pretty much the only way to increase volume in there is blow by...agreed.

[@dww527]

My local honda dealer where I have bought my last 7 Honda's

[@psdaengr911]

Sounds more like direct injector leakage before ignition and after the engine is turned off.

[@AC-le9wv]

@R Amos I recon it’s the efficiency: too efficient to the point that it does not generate enough heat even if the thermostat is closed (to the radiator).

[@kalanikaau1]

Do you always check your engine oil level with the engine running?

[@stephenstephen8660]

I have a 2018 EXL and have had no issues so far. I bought it in Summer when we had temperatures in 80s and 90s, now we are in the 40s. I haven’t had the service as yet so I guess I should be checking my dipstick then.

[@xxlxpman]

Still no fix for 18 and 19 CRV's, I bet the 20 20's will still have the issue of oil dilution.

[@josiehensley5705]

It’s only on the EX and higher trims. The LX has the smaller engine still not the “earth dreams”

[@xxlxpman]

@@josiehensley5705 I believe the engine you are referring to is the 2.4 naturally aspirated which is actually "bigger". It is not avail any more, if it was I'd still be driving a CRV.

[@youeweu]

You can also smell gas in the oil for the non-turbo larger engine which is present in the 2015 CRV earth dreams engine.

[@bobmennel137]

YES! 2020's only have the 1.5L motor. I have 5100 miles and gas in the oil!

[@ardee480]

Thanks for the info. was actually considering getting one of these. Definitely not anymore.

[@ElectricZebra85]

You may want to consider a Mazda CX-5 or Toyota RAV4. I had the 1.5t Civic (Canadian, in one of the coldest parts) and mine had trouble warming up and I always smelled gas. I am a long time Honda fan but I was so disappointed I had to get rid of it, glad I did before this came out. I got a Mazda 6 and I love it, it's got the Japanese build quality and reliability I was looking for, plus it's a great driving and handling car and it's really efficient!

[@ardee480]

@@ElectricZebra85 It's really sad to see how Honda has become so complacent. I'll definitely look at the Mazda 6 more so the RAV 4.

[@davidfreeman5302]

I was so close to buying a 1.5 2018 accord. Glad I waited.

[@webrbio3153]

My 2002 also has a gas smell in 200 kilometer new oil. But it does warm up after 5-10 minutes. At this age it could just be worn or injector problems. Didn’t notice any dilution. Oil levels are maintained/slowly decrease.

[@jd5179]

Honda service department : we are not aware of tbis problem - lol

[@jaimeolmeda7069]

Honda: it a normal for fuel to lower the oils viscosity but dont worry your car was designed to work like this and is operating normal

[@wendellmackenzie2240]

Here is my 2 cts worth on this shitstorm for honda. I bought a new 2018 Honda CRV touring in late Sept 2018. Since new (just over 5K miles on it) I have had it to the dealer 3 times for the oil dilution issue. I'm in florida now wintering. Honda america REFUSES to deal with the problem. They initially said parts were on order and the latest excuse is they put a hold on them for some unknown reason. We have 7 CRV's in our family - 2 of which have had the fix done and both are still showing the signs of high oil levels. One just broke down on the road while my brother in law was driving from the east of Canada to Arizona. This problem is real, is serious and Honda better soon address it or they are going to lose a LOT of customers.

[@boujieekaylonnii5238]

Wendell MacKenzie I fount they really care you already bought the vehicle lol sorry

[@mackendw]

Since posting my previous comment a few things have transpired. Honda US supplied the part and did the N60 campaign to my vehicle in the local Pinellas county dealership - no charge. It has not diluted the oil any since this was done in late January. As for my brother in laws problem, his vehicles fuel got corrupted by diesel fuel according to a dealership in el paso TX he had it towed to. This is what caused his problems. The gas station company paid his repairs, towing, car rental, etc.

[@psdaengr911]

I don't dispute that gas is getting into the oil, and it is a problem. It potentially reduces engine lubrication, creates a small possibility of detonation, and it most certainly violates EPA regulations. HOWEVER, while gasoline it contaminates the oil supply, gasoline does not readily dissolve in oil. Only the tiny amount that can dissolve in the oil is moved to the top of the engine. There is not enough churn in the oil sump for the oil pump to bring a significant amount of the gas to the top of the engine where it might be to be pulled past the rings and burned off. Regarding dipstick tests: You don't check oil level by laying the dipstick down horizontally. Lubricating fluid supply amount iis the most critical measure. When that level is excessive, fluid gets pushed into parts of the engine where it is likely to cause damage. (This can happen with undiluted oil.) If a dipstick is used to test the fluid in a COLD and static engine, the gas will float on top of the oil, just as gas will float above water in a fuel tank. Holding a dipstick horizontally will tell you nothing useful that your nose couldn't. If gas is mixed into the oil and the dipstick is held horizontally, the gas will flow up the stick where oil would not, wetting the surface and encouraging the oil to flow behind it. That negates testing the level. Keep the dipstick vertical. Look for the highest level where fluid has wetted the stick. WIth normal carbon buildup discoloring the oil, the highest level on the stick will be gasoline, the discolored, darker oil will stick to the lower part, giving you an indication of the amount of gasoline in it. If/when that thickness approaches the size of space between the min and max holes, the volume of gas is about 1 quart/liter and VERY dangerous as its evaporation within the engine could easily cause it to ignite and burn. If you suspect that excessive gasoline is being retained in the oil sump, you could encourage its evaporation by removing the oil filler cap each time when the engine is hot and leaving it off for an hour. (I suggest putting i in a baggie and placing it where you cannot miss seeing it each time you start the car). There is a hazard of ignition, so provide passive ventilation by opening the garage doors, or park outside. The stronger the gas odor and the further you can smell it away from the vehicle, the more effectively this is working. If the EPA complains about the air pollution this causes, refer them to Honda.

[@tailwheel65]

So there is a recall for this issue now. Got my 2017 touring fixed last week. Software update and 'air conditioning computer' replaced. My oil level was high but don't think I ever experienced what you are seeing with the temperature not coming up.

[@henryharris5597]

I have a ‘17 with 12k miles. Live in central Texas. Have not had any temp problem, nor smelled any gas on dipstick but oil level has been high. Love the car (my 3rd Honda) and hope Honda has this problem fixed.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Henry Harris if oil level is high it’s mixing.

[@henryharris5597]

EATSLEEPJD yes. Just watched a pretty good video here by an Aussie “autoexpert” I think was his ID. He made a convincing argument that the mixing is inevitable and it’s effects are engineered into the car. I’ve had very good success with Honda and I’ll trust their engineering till it lets me down. As to your heating problem, I haven’t paid a lot of attention to my water temp gage but never experienced any shortcoming. Had plenty of heat soon after starting engine even in below 20’ weather.

[@henryharris5597]

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[@66gardener]

My experience and 5 of my friends who have 017's 0'18's and 019's, all of us with zero problems and my dealer has had zero problems from any of their customers cars.

[@damonreynolds6775]

Inexcusable the way Honda has handled this issue. Clearly it is a major design flaw that would cost millions to fix via recall, if even possible without engine rebuild or swap. So they come up with 'it's highly efficient' nonsense and that you should drive more, smell/check/change oil frequently. You folks need to collectively pressure Honda just as China did. Any car in this climate should heat quickly to operating temp in minutes, and NOT dump unburnt fuel into the crank case doing it. 'Efficient' my eye, take customers for fools.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Mark Reynolds I agree. I wonder what this new fix they are coming up with. I hope it’s not something bandaid temp fix till 100k then the engine blow up.

[@dattape2828]

they should stop production and buy every car back

[@maryryanroman2399]

Mark Reynolds well saud. I completely agree.

[@maryryanroman2399]

Your Pal yes!!!

[@jaimeolmeda7069]

I have the 1.5t motor in my Accord sport... Wanted to save $ on gas so I bought the 1.5t. I'm screwed now!

[@sxb080511]

Living in Midwest I really had a difficult time warming up my 2017 CRV 1.5L when temperatures are in 20-ees. I would always see temp gage needle drop if I’m at a stop light. It’s really an inadequate design for cold climates!

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Oh tell me about it haha. It struggles even in 40 degree weather if I’m driving around in the city. Once I take it on the highway it’s fine.

[@nelcramer6540]

I have a 2019 CR-V EX AWD and don't have this problem. Also, no smell in the cab. I checked the oil several times in the past 3 weeks and don't notice any degradation or smell. You don't spell out your engine displacement on the notes area. I have the 1.5L Turbo. I am sorry you are having this issue. I am happy with my CRV. Thanks for posting though.

[@amritm5070]

I own a 2017 Honda CR-V EX-L with Navi and it runs completely fine for me and it has 10k miles

[@keishachan6539]

So sad about this. I’m was going to test drive this tomorrow and I’m in Canada too

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Keisha Chan wait for 2019 or get Rav 4

[@danielsobkow483]

I had a 2017 Honda CR-V loved it but froze in the cold Canadian winter could not get any heat to blow . Cold as heck. Took it to the dealer ship told them about the problem. They told me there is no fix . It’s normal. So I traded it for a 2018 Ford Escape with a 1.5 and it throws heat like you were in Hell. I did not have the gas in the oil problem.

[@BrianSmith-si4zd]

Buy a 2019 rav 4 there really reliable. Been with toyota for 18 years.

[@jowowetan]

I read in the summer that due to this issue, China has stopped Honda from selling the new CRV. I'm surprised it just started to catch on in the US.

[@DoritosResidue]

I have been driving since 1998. 2 civic 2 accords , 1 crv. All bought brand new. I can't figure out how people say they are reliable. I had Soo many issues with alignment, locks going on and off while driving, cracked catalytic converter, alternator issues and the list goes on. My family members always had issues with their Honda's as well. I finally went with Kia sorento this past weekend. Hopefully not as bad LoL.

[@jaymeal123]

I have a 2017 CRV and my roommate has a 2018... with over 30k on my 2017 I’ve had ZERO ISSUES since I got the car going on 2 years in December.... my roomy has had ZERO issues either! I stand firm that the CRV is the best midsized SUV on the market!

[@EATSLEEPJD]

jaymeal123 not everyone has this issue.

[@tomjohns5146]

jaymeal= after watching this i am buying a toyota==the 2019 crv has the same problems===!

[@EATSLEEPJD]

tom johns 2019 will come with fix according to Honda.

[@tomjohns5146]

eatsleep=i am going to buy a toyota after watching this but honda is taking their time in fixing this issue !

[@davem4143]

jaymeal, not every car and the conditions matter. that's the way with many defective autos, some ppl don't have the problem, doesn't meant it isn't real. I would never take the chance on this car until it's worked out. When these cars fail, they fail BIG. And you car shutting off while you are diving kills, yes? Remember the Cobalt?

[@miriamvivo4279]

Send oil sample to graystone for analysis

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Blackstone? lol

[@youeweu]

Their limit for fuel in oil is

[@cornelius6304]

90k miles on my moms crv checked the dipstick noticed the smell of gas in the oil just happened to come across this video today. Cars runs like it’s brand new still zero failures engine runs very smooth.

[@ani5537]

I went through video, i think the problem of gas smell inside your cabin must be because of gas oil filter which down under the transmission might be leaking from seal and comming inside your cabin, the leaking is not that enough but sure will be causing smell inside ur cabin and gassing inside you engine can be due to various reasons like . Lube oil filter seal not correct and sucking small amount of air. . Gasket leaking may be due to pin hole as not seated properly .

[@du-gu2mm]

that is why I'll stick to my rav4 and 4runner! boring interior but bullet proof power train. toyota rules baby!!! unbeatable!!!

[@rolandrhoward9361]

Apparently you're not aware of the Camry's oil consumption issues a few years back. No Company is infallible.

[@du-gu2mm]

@@rolandrhoward9361 yup you're correct, every co. has flaws, that's why we stick to toyota they have lesser flaw compare to others. they even had this massive recall because of the SUA but look at them from north america to asia they are still #1 selling brand. boring design underpower but bullet proof reliable. you'll see them on the road where ever you look but you wont see a stalled one or being towed hehe

[@66gardener]

I encourage you to read this months MotorTrend 2019 Toyota RAV4 vs. Honda CR-V. Essentially, the RAV is junky compared to the Honda in a long list of ways.

[@du-gu2mm]

@@66gardener hehehe then buy crv but dont forget to buy tylenol or advil as well for sure you'll be getting severe headache after few months

[@jamesthomson3059]

I just traded my 2017 CRV in. I live in Alberta Canada and froze my butt off commuting to work this winter. Always a 30 minute trip and it won’t warm up our stay warm and checked the oil level and it is 1 litre(quart) over full mark. That means a litre of gas in my oil prematurely wearing out engine. I guarantee MOST of the 2017 and 18’s have this problem. I test drove a new 2019 CRV and it still doesn’t warm up. Bought a 2019 Mazda CX-5.

[@waynes.2983]

I'd like to see someone connect a real analog temperature gauge to the system to see what the temps really are. Or even a scan took to see the actual oil temperature.

[@carlitos_714]

Have a 2018 CRV LX 135k miles. The only issue I’ve had is a leaking valve cover gasket which I’m doing this weekend. When I change the oil, I do smell the gas. No other issues though.

[@SS-uh2xb]

What you got to do since it's a turbo, you just got to accelerate mad hard let the turbo kick in and burn the excess fuel in the engine. Basically stop driving like a old man! It's good to push the car to the limit and clean the system up. You getting 33mpg for a reason old man. You should off gotten a 2.4litter engine. It for old people... 1.5litter is for people that want to have fun from time to time. Once you accelerate hard your engine will stay warm...

[@harley62t]

Buffalo cookies - I am getting 36 mpg on my 2017 CRV - I drive it gently and have no issues. Car heats up normally and quickly. I have 21,000+ miles...no problems.

[@66gardener]

@Richard Ren Learn to obeye the redline on your tach....idiot. Honda engines are virtually indestructible if treated properly.

[@emersontan2999]

I have a 2017 Honda CRV and have the same issues. I even have an oil leaked from the cylinder head gasket,a gas smells inside the cabin...i mean its a brandnew car...so disappointed buying this car...

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Emerson Tan sorry to hear that. Where do you live? If you’re in the northern states call Honda and they will sign you up for the fix.

[@tomjohns5146]

emerson=will the crv get fixed by honda ????????

[@emersontan2999]

@@tomjohns5146 i can't tell whether they fixed it or not.my only option this time is return the car and maybe ill go for accord...

[@davem4143]

@@emersontan2999 go for a Toyota.

[@nickbadry4122]

If you bought the warranties they'll fix it or if keeps giving trouble file lemon law.

[@easygoingday8980]

Is this about the (A/C Unit Update PCM)? If so, I just got the recall letter to get it done. Im located in Toronto Canada driving a 1.5L 2017 Honda CRV LX

[@williammacdonald3160]

I’ve been leasing a 2016 civic for about 3 years and always assumed the gas smell was coming from outside until this issue. I nearly bought a 2018 CR-V back in July but the sales manager was playing games. I was pissed at the time but I’m glad I didn’t pull the trigger.

[@EATSLEEPJD]

Good save on that one lol.