2017 Chevy Silverado HD 2500 Takes on the Super Ike Gauntlet World's Toughest Towing Test

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[@ledzeppelin27]

20 years ago, you would have shit yourself seeing a small block pull that much weight up a mountain

[@forearmshiver5520]

ledzeppelin27 You are absolutely correct, the 6.0 gm motor walked all over Ford's triton V10 in EVERY comparison test...loaded and unloaded.

[@forearmshiver5520]

Bunz21 True now days, but I was replying to a comment in reference to the early years of the 6.0 gm motor.

[@bgd73]

that surprise has been there for 50. I drive both today..a 2016 gmc and a 96 with a 5 speed.. 305. I'd rather put a king pin on my 96. I am the "welder steel guy" for family vehicles.. I guess i do have some cheating involved, but I digress.

[@cheatrslix1]

ledzeppelin27, as if any small block powered anything would even consider hauling a 13,500 lb loaded trailer up that mountain! LOL

[@baddriversofnorthtexas6850]

In this video, cruising at 5300rpm lol remember when 80s-90s iron motors were red lining at 4300rpm

[@xXBurntBaconXx]

So this towed more than the Ram 2500 6.4L Hemi, 3 minutes quicker, with less power, and 4x4 equipped.

[@Willyd2758]

6.0 is an insane engine that doesn’t get nearly enough respect or reputation for what it does. It’s just as reliable as the Chevy 350 and makes more power. Much more power.

[@dubstepatadailydose]

Love the 6.0, wonder how much the gooseneck affects it. Wanting to get one with gooseneck option myself reg cab tho.

[@calebanderson9981]

bob john go ahead. I tote with a 6.0. Pull cattle trailers. Pulling bout 15-20k with it. It does great

[@offgridtx3043]

i towed 16500 pounds from houton to tulsa. with my 03 2500hd with 6.0 great engine trans temps got a little high but it made it same and sound.

[@commonsensetruth3912]

@@offgridtx3043 wow. How long did it take? How often have you towed heavy cross country like that with a 6.0

[@bamajim8678]

i have and 08 2500 HD 4x4 with the gas 6.0 and 6L90 trans have no problems pulling a 10500lb RV behind it. pulled thru North Carolina,Tennessee and Kentucky and stayed at Highway speeds most of the uphill grades, fuel economy not that great avg 6.to 7 mpg but no problems now have 203,000 with no engine or trans problems. has been an awesome truck. upgrading RV to 44 ft and 16,500lb which will be getting the Duramax and Allison combo.

[@coryr9938]

One of the best engines ever made! GM sure is good at building a tough small block V8, and the 6.0 is no exception.

[@mudfarmer]

I Definitely agree. 6.0 ls is king

[@jamescrain2270]

6.0s are badass in the 99-07 GM trucks but in the 14-19 HD trucks it seems just a little small we had an 18 4 door long bed 6.0 and it didn’t tow very well compared to our 06 Diesel

[@dennisreynolds6915]

@@jamescrain2270 how do? Did you let the rpms run up to 5k? It needs to be at high rpm compared to a diesel

[@jamescrain2270]

@@dennisreynolds6915 yes it was always around 5K rpm’s when shifting it was just not very powerful when pullin* our camper or our 100HP tractor, ended up trading it for a 2017 Diesel exactly like it

[@Doyouwannaridefor75]

that 6.0 is that man

[@franz4294]

GM, please bring back the Big-Block. That, with modern technologies and better transmission, this truck would've eaten up this test.

[@bunz2197]

Franz well gm isn't but Ford is with their own big-block the new 7.0l v8 it going to be a power house.

[@gmcdenali7178]

Franz Hell yea bring back the Vortec 8100

[@franz4294]

+Bunz21 I've been reading that Ford's new engine might be part of the modular family. If that's the case, why can't GM build a V8 using the Gen V small-block? They were making aluminum 7.0L engines, and 7.4L engines with CGI in the LS family, so why not make something 7.0+ liters in displacement but using a CGI version of the Gen V engine small- block? Big-blocks would be awesome, but I understand the cost of having two different blocks.

[@mattr7118]

It's all marketing my friend. All of the truck companies spend millions a year on marketing companies to figure out where the best money possible will be made. If they find that one day there's a hole in the market for a 7.0+ liter gas engine, that's what they'll put in the trucks! Until then we can only dream

[@swss12]

8.1L vortec with 8 speed auto, 450hp, 500 ft-lbs, with a 4.10 rear end still. would wipe out the diesel market

[@RhinoAg]

The gas saves you 10k dollars when purchasing this truck and if you're towing less than 14k and not doing it for a job every day it is great. This motor will last forever. I've towed an 11k fifth wheel about 1-2 weekends a month all over for a year now with this gasser. Love this truck. If you're driving these extreme inclines, at altitude, with the max towing weight every day, or just have the excess cash, you might want the diesel.

[@TFLtruck]

+RhinoAg Thanks for the feedback!

[@Em-vg9nu]

The Fast Lane Truck We have a 2005 2500HD with this engine pull about 10k. She is still going strong today.

[@4estfloor]

what does a 6.0 truck get out of a full tank of gas. How many miles?

[@Em-vg9nu]

4estfloor All I care about is I average 13.9 mpg when not towing in my Chevy 2500HD 6.0L. The F-250 6.2L averages 13.2 mpg. And a Ram 2500 5.7L averages up to 14 mpg.

[@BigRandyR]

4estfloor My 2016 reg cab two wheel drive 2500hd get 10.2 pulling an 18ft trailer with a zero turn mower, walk behind mower, two trimmers, two gas cans, and two hand held blowers. It only has 1667 miles on the clock. Only gets driven for work. I was hoping for 12 to 14 mpgs.

[@tanger1945]

A modern 8.1 would be awesome. Had several and they never quit, except when going by a gas station!

[@AximusPrime33]

If they put a 50 gallon gas tank in one. I'd get one!

[@ieatpussy1000]

"I hope this thing doesn't stop." As it beats the 6.4 shemi ram by three minutes.

[@senyashchukin391]

I just bought a 2000 Silverado 2500 6.0 gasser with 173k miles. Man I love this truck. It feels like im driving a tank. It's a long bed so I can put whole sheets of plywood and close the tailgate. I had 12 hardipanels loaded and it only squat like half an inch. The extra cab is roomy I can put all my tools in the back even my compressor. From now on im sticking to cheby 3/4 ton trucks and vans. When my truck dies I'll get a newer 2500hd gas. I used to have a 2013 Tacoma double cab lb but found it was next to useless for construction.

[@Kcducttaper1]

Man, I love how the Vortec engines sound! They have that nice, smooth, deep growl where some of the competitor's engines have a harsh, raspy note that I just think is obnoxious and gives me a headache.

[@m.m14433]

I just bought 2016 of this truck with 81k kms for landscaping property maintenance and snow plowing. I hope she holds up well.

[@ThaMetalMan]

Can't wait to see more testing of the new 6.6. It has alot to live up to

[@thatpermedmullet7911]

Shoulda kept the 6.0 too tho

[@TheJSmithBA]

Why do these guys not like chrome on trucks? I think it looks great on grilles, bumpers & wheels.

[@takayama1638]

They whippersnappers, that's why. Real men love chrome.

[@Droptheworldghost]

I did alot of research before picking up my 2016 2500HD with the tow package. I haven't towed anything yet but so far love the truck

[@georgebrandt6247]

This may be an odd request but have you ever performed the Ike Gauntlet with E-85 in the flex fuel vehicles? In my 2017 Silverado with the 5.3L I get a significant power increase however my MPG's do drop.

[@takayama1638]

Boys, I've been watching all these videos, and I figured out I want a Hybrid Truck. Yep, that's right: an F250 frame/body, GM 6.0L engine, Aisin transmission, Dana locking differential (big one), then throw on whatever the best shocks, brakes, etc. made. I buy. Oh, and a bunch of CHROME, Andre!

[@divineself4117]

I like the chrome. It makes the truck look more expensive than the black body panels usually on working trucks. Why don't you guys like chrome on the trucks?

[@MrTruckTV]

I like chrome, I grew up with base dull work trucks and appreciate shiny stuff

[@mrsmith2876]

I think most of the people who own these trucks like chrome. I think it's a working class thing. My work truck a 2017 Kenworth has chrome for days and all the other guys at work compliment it all the time

[@thill2570]

I don't like the chrome look I like the blacked out look its more low profile

[@DoRC]

I'm pretty surprised that you guys just brushed off the fact that at the end of the run you were floored, it was refusing to downshift and was going under 30mph....that seems pretty important...

[@TacomaJD]

Almost seems false to me.

[@Kmecha84]

It wasn't floored, if it was it would have downshifted

[@BreckoniousMaximus]

A simple custom tune, CAI, throttle body spacer and some 4.56 gears on and you're set!

[@stoker20]

Boy that thing takes a beating. My plan is to put one in my 89 c1500. Should be a nice performance increase over the 350 TBI and have better MPG too.

[@chevyon37s]

Makes me miss my 6.0L truck. It was a tank, used, abused and it came back for more

[@craigschmude5351]

I have an 03 Chevy 2500 HD with a 6.0L that has over 250,000 miles on it and it still tows and runs great . The 6.0L is a very good motor.

[@donaldthomas5852]

I have a 1999 Chevy 2500 6.0 4x4 and it pulls great also.196,000 miles

[@coryr9938]

Wish you could get the 6.0 in the half ton trucks. Good reliable engine with a lot of low end torque. That, a 6 speed, a 3.73 ratio, and you'd have a stout 1500.

[@Kmecha84]

I agree with you however the 6.0 doesn't win any races with fuel economy

[@sirvelliance9332]

you could back in the day. Look up "Chevrolet 1500HD"

[@ncurc9766]

Back in the day it was called the VortecMax, 6.0 and the beefed up trans in the 1500

[@ethanbible5264]

This truck would be the perfect truck for me if it had the 6.2 L with the 8-speed transmission because I do believe that is the 6-speed transmission man this thing would be a monster with the 420 horsepower and 460 foot pounds of torque 6.2 L and with the extra two gears close range transmission........ if I had the cash to order it special order it from GM that's what I would get!!!!!!

[@doctube2020]

Nice GMT400 Towing the U-haul Trailer

[@Cobb]

holy crap 44k is the cheapest HD I remember seeing you test.

[@daltonpulley2543]

Got one in the spring almost 10000 miles lease return same truck with carpet for $34600 I'd say that's pretty good

[@Don-ul6rx]

Also why didn't you do the tests of the Ram and Chevy the same? The Ram you loaded a Ford truck on a trailer with a water tote in the bed of the Ram. But the Chevy you use a fifth wheel trailer? Apples to apples or it doesn't mean a damn thing. I used to like your videos but now you are becoming a another bought and paid Ford fan club.

[@AgentSmith911]

At that weight no sane person would choose gas over diesel

[@LukeEdward]

Hoss Cartwright . . . UNLESS . . . Like me, you only RARELY EVER tow huge loads. Example; I was called upon to help a fried move their 35' trailer with my 6.4L RAM. I NEVER tow over 10k, more than 2-3 times a year. I have the capability on the rare times I need it.

[@AgentSmith911]

Luke Edward I'm not talking about suburban skids, I'm talking about construction workers and haulers who tow at max or near max about every day and live at rough places like the Rocky Mountains. If you don't work with your truck it's just a waste imo.

[@arbiter1]

if doing up steep hills and mountain area's yea but if its a lot more flat area's then it wouldn't be so bad.

[@LukeEdward]

Hoss Cartwright oh yeah. It's like owning a shiny new framing hammer while wearing polished steel toed boots. . . .why. . . ? I do agree, if you don't work with your truck, the why own it. (Although there are some $100k truck around me, with 24" wheels and low profile mud tires that exemplify that choice in life). I just don't work with it all the time; not enough to justify a 25% increase in price for a 10% necessity. Which, I think is what these guys are trying to point out. This truck, and other gasoline versions they've been testing, are quite a significant value proposition that will do what you need when called upon. If you full time RV, which is essentially what these "tiny homes" craze are nowadays, and maybe move your trailer only 2-3 times a year, why spend the extra? I could put an extra $10k into my RV, my RV lot, a little getaway piece of property in the mountains where I pull my trailer, an extra getaround vehicle, or even my child's college fund for the inconvenience of not having the diesel for the few times it would be a better tow vehicle choice. BTW - The everyman can actually rent a diesel truck from Enterprise that they allow you to tow HUGE loads, if you need to. It'll only cost you $600-$700 a week . . . Another TFLTruck addressed this similar thought in a viewer's question so I'll stop there. Digressing, if you have the need, ALWAYS get the right tool for the job. It's just sometimes you don't need a coil nail gun and a 20gal. compressor if you're only repairing the roof on your shed.

[@cvcc8083]

That's not really true. You could always come up with a bigger, more powerful gas engine for this, but GM needs a better transmission first and foremost. The 6.0L are super stout and can handle the hard work, but the transmissions are geared poorly and erratic. Just simply having better transmissions would've made a huge difference in the test.

[@nickc2708]

I promise you that pedal was floored constantly. don't get me wrong I'm a duramax guy and I know that truck was pushed to its limit the whole time

[@houstoncowdog]

The 6.0's specs don't quiet stack up to the Ford 6.2 or Ram 6.4 but unlike those two motors the GM motor will still be running in 10 years. Diesels are awesome for rich guys and heavy hauling but the reliability and maintenance problems you encounter with the modern diesels make the gas trucks a very viable option for guys like me that never tow anything but want the looks of a 3/4 ton.

[@jbncnow]

Wait till you have to buy a new diesel enge also

[@gmcdenali7178]

houstoncowdog Put the damn Vortec 6200 and Allison 1000

[@houstoncowdog]

George GMC Sierra Denali apparently the 6.2 was designed as a car engine and may not be as durable under load. I'm just saying that the 6.0 and the 5.3 engines have been proven to be basically indestructible. I used to work for a company that beat the tar out of 6.0s in 2500 vans for literally over 300k and when they would sell them they were still running strong.

[@GodRam1988]

Can't speak to much for ford but I have had both Chevy and dodge v8s last well over 200k will say tho the most reliable truck I ever had was a 04 ram hemi! Truck never quit!

[@MichaelRainabbaRichardson]

By the "has 345k miles on it" comment, I'd guessing you've got a "slightly older" that maybe doesn't ride as nice as the newer ones, but I'm shopping around for my first truck so I wanted to confirm and see if you had any other feedback to share (especially if it would apply to a newer year-model)? I'm seriously considering a Diesel Dually so I can go all the way on a 5th wheel and never worry that I can't get somewhere because I went cheap on the truck, but I also don't want to spend $75k to get what I want OR go cheap when a bit more would have really helped. Anyone else with helpful advice/facts, I'll all ears. I have family that works for GM so I'll be hung if I buy anything else (on top of NOT getting the GM family price I get otherwise), but I really want tech/features I don't see in the Chevy and I like the style of Ford and Dodge more. To boot, the Dodge mega-cab would be HUGE for us if I do end up hauling around the fmaily (2 adults, 3 kids) and have to live in the truck for days while driving because we will be able to keep SO much more accessible (food, changes of clothes, entertainment, blankets for naps, etc..). Said another way, the goal is a truck I can use to travel the family with, while pulling a 5th wheel (with everything we'll be living with). This will also be my daily vehicle when not traveling and I'm a project guy so this truck will be busy and likely end up pulling other (lighter) loads regulalry.

[@HardNorthOutdoors]

never understood why a supercharger isn't available as an option. ex, the LSA supercharger on this would of made all the difference for the low end torque.

[@iammekanic9800]

Because people would be blowing engines up in less than a 100k miles and blaming the manufacturer for driving their pick up like a race car

[@HardNorthOutdoors]

@@iammekanic9800 not of the engine is made for it and using low ( stock ) boost. And you can't say you're engine blew if you didn't mod it cus they go into the system and see everything.

[@barbaraschenck5691]

Hello TFL Truck. Please test the 2017 Ford F250 6.2L Gas as well. Thanks.

[@TFLtruck]

We hope to do this very soon!

[@kry226]

Please do so with the 4.30 gears, gentlemen. Thanks!

[@MrGoodtime1301]

4.30 gears please, max capacity

[@matthoward1174]

Do the empty MPG loop with this truck! My 8.1 gas, with a 4:10, and a 5 speed Allison trans got 7-8 MPG on flat highway going 70 mph.

[@mrsmith2876]

You sir have never had the pleasure of driving a 496 cubic inch big block lol a gas engine with diesel engine power numbers

[@joshhampton1336]

Hey I have a 06 Chevy Silverado 3500 with a 8.1 and a 6 speed Allison. Empty on the highway it gets 12mpg.. towing my tractor on the trailer. At about 11000lbs being towed. Gets 7mpg

[@donaldthomas5852]

I got a 2004 Chevy 3500 crew cab 8.1 (496ci) 410 rear end . 11 mpg Hwy. it pulls a heavy built 24ft gooseneck trailer 14 bales of 4x5 round roll of hay weighing 1200 lbs a peace almost 17,000 lbs of hay plus trailer weight about 8,000 lbs that is 25,000 lbs and will get 6 mpg.

[@AkioWasRight]

They could definitely use a newer, more powerful gas engine, but I've always thought their gas HD's biggest letdown was the transmission. The issue is the gearing hunting combined with tallness/space of the gears. Just when your into the peak power, it up-shifts, which is what you'd expect, but the RPM dips so low, it bogs down and has to shift back down again just to keep you going. What the hell is that about? Beyond that, it's way too erratic, never being able to find the gear it wants, exactly what you don't want in any transmission, much less a heavy duty truck transmission. Really, if they just improved on their transmission, even the their dinosaur of a gas engine would perform much, much better.

[@bunz2197]

emdec55 I agree

[@gmcdenali7178]

emdec55 Gen IV Vortec 6200 and Allison 1000 tranny

[@gmcdenali7178]

emdec55 I got a 6200 in my Sierra, so I know it's good enough If only they could bring back the Vortec 8100

[@SurelyYewJest]

The Vortec 6200 is all-aluminum. HD engines are pretty much (TMK) always iron blocks. The 6200 likely would not withstand the same amount of abuse as the iron 6.0. The 8100 would work all day and then some, but its gas mileage would make the relatively archaic 6.0 look like a fuel sipper.

[@franz4294]

+SurelyYewJest You're right about the strength of the aluminum block being an issue, but I bet a bigger engine with a better transmission wouldn't be much worse on fuel under these conditions. This engine was laboring hard and the trans was only making things worse. An engine with more muscle and trans to keep in its power band would probably get up the hill much easier.

[@coopersherman5445]

To all the 1/2 ton guys saying their this that and the other makes more power has more gears well its a half ton put this weight behind any half ton and see how it likes it see how long its gonna last doing what this trucks doing the ls platform is proven and has been for years along with the 6l90 trans i own a truck just like this and love it its not the greatest thing but its built for longevity its built to take abuse and work and do shit that a truck should do frontend parts all greasable i have the worktruck and the interrior is as nice as the delux truck from 10 years ago

[@darrenchoinard5105]

Somebody should do these tests at less than 3500 feet above sea level; at least 90 % of us operate our trucks at lower altitudes. Any truck that operates at 11000 feet should be equipped with a jet turbine engine and have a pressurized cabin.

[@bryane2857]

yep... But if any truck can do this my midwest travels in Iowa, Minnesota will make it look easy. Onlything I have to deal with is a Head Wind going and coming back. Never fails in the midwest. I get a head wind going somewhere and a week later on the return trip a head wind coming home.

[@darrenchoinard5105]

Bryan E I made this comment because it would be interesting to see how naturally aspirated gas trucks would perform at lower altitudes. These guys do a great job testing in that environment but it would be nice to see how gas trucks would do below 3500 feet.. The diesel trucks perform really well under any scenario. I tow an 8000 lb. tag along travel trailer with a Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi and it works really good. Fuel mileage seems to be the same while towing as my previous half ton but a little worse when not towing.

[@bryane2857]

Darren Choinard I agree. I wasn't making any bad comment about your comment. I agree with it 100 percent. I rarely pull in mountains. Occasionally in the black hills.

[@djw5415]

You know what this is a great test! Many of us will not even come close the the grade and elevation you put these trucks through. Keep up the great work TFL.

[@Icarusaresane]

6.0 VORTEC>>>>GREATEST TRUCK MOTOR EVER MADE!

[@bunz2197]

Icarusaresane Ford 300 I-6

[@bunz2197]

Icarusaresane you are very wrong.

[@gmcdenali7178]

Icarusaresane Nah 6.2 version is better Same engine but 12 cubic inches larger and alot more power

[@garrettgunter2668]

7.3 diesel

[@samsquantch14]

wrong...the 6.2 is an ecotec and is completely different from the 6.0 vortec

[@donniedonaldson289]

I would like to see the gas HD trucks compared more closely with half tons. I think the diesel is the way to go if towing heavy, but I think a lot of weekenders are towing weights that are right in between 1/2 and 3/4s. Do you buy a half ton that is better for day to day and stress it more for towing or do you buy a 3/4 gas that isn't as good for commuting but is better suited for towing? How do the gas HDs tow closer to the 6-9k lb range?

[@slaytanic921]

Buy the Hd and a small 4 cylinder car for commuting.

[@fddriver02]

I think it would be cool to see an under hood shot of the engine during the test to see if the exhaust manifolds are glowing.

[@SMiller5488]

whippersnapper02 no camera needed, I assure you they are glowing bright!

[@yota87truck]

Our company buys these trucks. Works great for landscaping and snow removal.

[@campnut6076]

I know this is an older video. I watched it because I have a 2018 2500hd that I tow a small travel trailer with it and am thinking of upgrading to a larger 5th wheel rv. Something in the 30 foot range. Wanted to see how it did the Ike gauntlet fully loaded. Fast Lane truck does a great towing test with these trucks. Yea I thought about a diesel but I live in the east and only tow the rv 8 to 10 times a year. Didn't seem worth all the extra bucks for the diesel.

[@stevenjh4689]

How has your 2018 2500hd been performing? Looking at a '17 hd gas for a 9,000 lb, 29ft travel trailer and wanted your opinion. I think it'd be a great option for me but curious about experience.

[@campnut6076]

@@stevenjh4689 I've been towing a 8000 gvw 26' travel trailer. It has worked great for that purpose.

[@kingyellowwolf5256]

Can we get max towing on the rear hitch I'd love to start seeing those videos

[@DeltaSierra426]

I'm a Mopar guy but honestly for that weight, grade, and altitude once they are up there a ways, that's not bad really for a NA gas V8 that's original dates back to over a decade ago. It's obviously not a close-ratio 6-speed seeing how many RPM's were lost dropping gears -- what was the final drive ratio on that truck? (I missed it if they said it) Gearing is noticeably closer on new 8-spd and 10-spd trannies. 6-speeds will suffice in an occasional tow vehicle (especially at that price). They still make the old 4-spds look like childs' play.

[@swss12]

for a hill and altitude like this without a turbo, yes an 8 speed would be much better. rear end on almost all GM 6.0 is 4.10:1

[@88corinutza]

I have the same W/T in a 3500 dually and gas mileage is 12 unloaded Pulling a 35' 10k TT it gets 6 im ready for a Diesel lol

[@jameschance5507]

For the guys who pull campers with there 6.0, How would you compare the pulling ease of a early 2000's 6.0 compared to a newer 6.0 (2015 and newer)? I can't hardly find anyone that pulls there camper with a 6.0, everyone has a duramax. Just wanted opinions on your experience pulling a camper that gets alot of wind resistance, compared to a flatbed that has hardly any wind resistance.

[@freetoroam7769]

This is a very late reply to your question, and not a comparison with the 6.0 era you mention, but I used my regular cab 1988 GMC 3500 with the 454 to haul a 3200 lb slide in camper for 27 years. Performance was adequate. Then in 2017, ordered a new GMC dually double cab 4x4 with the 6.0, plus a new, and much heavier slide in camper. The 2017 with the 6.0 does a much better job hauling the weight since the power band is much higher. The 454 would crap out way too soon. I live in the mountainous PNW, and have never needed to "floor" the 6.0 to keep up with traffic with a 4500 lb slide in camper. I have no intentions of going to a diesel with the load I currently carry. And the head wind does degrade performance slightly.

[@danielc5205]

Back when I special ordered my new Super Duty, the 6.0L Power Stroke people had a lot of problems with thier trucks, and the 6.4L Power Stroke people had it even worse. Also, the new 6.7L Power Stroke was having turbo and def problems. So, I told myself, for the 5 times I tow heavy a year, the 6.2L gas will work just fine. Plus, it will save me a boat load of money. I bought reliability over power.

[@danielc5205]

Yeah, my brother bought a new 6.4L in '08, it was a Lemon Law Buyback truck because Ford couldn't keep a 6.4L alive more than 4 months at a time in the thing. If Ford still had the 7.3L, or a 5.9L Cummins, I would have paid for the upsell price for a diesel.

[@hochhaul]

Happy Gilmore The 6.2 is known for junk oil pumps and water pumps that break apart and throw the fan into the radiator.

[@danielc5205]

According to the forums and the Ford mechanics that I've taked to, the 6.2L has been a very reliable engine for most people.

[@uuulaalaa]

Offer it in 6 speed manual for does of us who can still drive a manual

[@Macsk8ing]

sharemymood I don't think I've seen a full sized American truck with a manual.

[@joeyscleaninglady2877]

ram with the cummins still comes with a G56 manual

[@uuulaalaa]

EElectric_M the last full one I saw was a 2001 Silverado 2500 gas engine and I also seen a few rams

[@rexgoliath4032]

The Crew Cab long bed (longer wheel base) has more towing power, as well as the 2wd model. Also, if it had been a 2wd, it would have lighter in weight than the 4wd you drove. And never tow with 20” tires! 17’s are best. GM only puts them on for guys that like the looks of the larger tire. The 17s can carry more weight and are safer. I think you guys used the wrong configuration of the Silverado 2500hd for an accurate comparison.

[@jbncnow]

What is that all over the engine compartment in a brand new truck? looks like paint, mud mabey?

[@platinumlawnservice]

Mud. They took it offroad a couple weeks back

[@Goofygiggles]

I feel like if the Transmission was geared closer together you guys could've hit 60

[@ieatpussy1000]

And beats the Ram by 3 full minutes.

[@jonwright85]

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but the 6.0 doesn't have the ability to switch off cylinders between 8 and 4.

[@reginaldcarter1730]

Please do the 98 mile MPG test loop in the 2500 Silverado WT. I would like to know what the highway MPGs might be. I am interested in this truck being my next purchase.

[@davidlavery8336]

I just bought a 2018 Chevy 2500hd LT 4x4 double cab. I get 15 to 15.5mpg back and forth to work religiously. And around town not much stop and go at 45mph I'll get around 17 to 18mpg. That big front end kills the highway miles. But my recent road trip down to valley here in Arizona I got 19mpg once I hit Phoenix that's at 150 miles one way. But mostly down hill. On the way back up I got 14.5 on the gas up hill. Average would put me at 16.7ish mpg. It's does alot Better then I thought it would.

[@dantheman9395]

Thank you for doing tests with a truck that a real person would get.

[@coltonworkman5839]

That sounds kind of rough when it’s running close to 6,000 rpm

[@mortimermeanders8912]

You guys maxed out my 2016 F150 5.0 with over 9,000lbs so Chevy is not alone on max outs.

[@boss123400]

Hell, I thought it was going to stop and start rolling backwards.

[@benjaminkirbytennyson6557]

Think again.

[@bpalmersheim]

They should have just put Mr. Truck on the trailer and did the test. Sure looks like he's been eating well.

[@granthertenstein7841]

Combat_Vet lmao

[@williammoore4673]

Says he has a CDL but I would bet he has not spent much time in the cab of a semi. He set the truck up to fail. Many of today’s big rigs are auto to but you still go into auto and drive the thing when driving in the mountains.

[@camaro_kyle6851]

this is one impressive truck gm, keep it up!

[@camaro_kyle6851]

Bunz21 the comment was my opinion

[@heavymetal375]

CAMARO_KYLE but the transmission sucks

[@camaro_kyle6851]

*Heavy Metal* yes i know bit the comment WAS IN *MY* OPINION

[@bertom87]

I know it is your opinion, but yeah the transmission is not impressive. GM, Shame on you!

[@mikefromenderby1406]

I have a 2003 Silverado 2500HD 4x4 with the 6.0l and it has over 410,000 km on the odo. I pull big heavy trailers all over the province of BC and neither the engine nor transmission has ever needed a repair to any internal part. I've serviced the transmission exactly once and I drive this truck hard. A local autowrecker has a dozen 6.0l engines for sale cheap because they say they rarely sell one as the engines simply do not die. The 6.0l may be the best and most reliable engine that GM has ever produced.

[@nhlcfl7733]

This was a good honest reviews guys, appreciate it. Well, I liked your opinion Andre of the Double Cab version over a Crew Cab. I found the Quad Cab and Double Cab to be my size. Temporary passengers never seem to complain either and I get a longer box. So far, I also love my 2020 6.6L gas engine 2500HD and I’m sure I will be fine with the power of the 6.6 and not regret buying a diesel which would take me +7 years of driving to even out the cost difference.

[@jasonglaze7874]

Why not the 6.2L in the HD's for the gas option????

[@BlakeIgnited]

Dream Truck

[@firebirdlover4460]

Yeah, I don't think I would ever tow that weight in overdrive mode myself. Pick the best gear to stay in the power band and hit it. Those extreme shifts can't be good for that transmission. Oh, I own a 2016 2500HD with the 6.0.

[@imssgmiller]

Own this exact truck love it, tune, exhaust and aftermarket intake and MAF. She's over 400 horse eaay

[@MatthewBrigham-1]

imssgmiller which tune did you go with and how does it tow now?

[@tylerb4838]

Andre got what he wanted. 2020 Silverado 2500 is coming with the 6.6 gas engine

[@ethanbible5264]

Why didn't GM put the 6.2 L in the 2500 HD doesn't that make a lot of sense waymore horsepower and torque why stick with the 6.0

[@jarrodhasenbalg7963]

Ethan Bible the 6.2 wouldn’t last as long pulling heavy trailers etc and I think it needs premium fuel.

[@mrmoerder]

Why does gm have the 6.2 if they are still using the 6.0?

[@mudfarmer]

6.0 ls is king

[@carlosavila7635]

That trailer weights 6900 those containers of water each weight 2300 so thats over 10500 lbs so not bad putting 2000 lbs onto the bed and towing over 8000 behind the truck

[@darrenwarren1730]

I have the 2019 version of this truck. I had a 2015 so I knew what I was getting. I have a 11,000 lbs 38’ bumper pull. It squats the truck 4”. Only thing I dislike is the towing fuel economy which I know comes with it being gas. Got a great deal on the truck because they wanted to move them to get in the 2020s with the new 6.6 gas engine.

[@josephdesilva9400]

Thanks guys I watched so many of your videos made my decision when it came down to my needs seeing I service my local area flat mostly And seeing I could if I needed to climb I saved so much money and went with the 2018 6.0 2500 she performed awesome today didn’t even have to push her hard with a full load 👍

[@davidh3271]

I’m done with your Chanel. You guys are missing an entire segment 3/4 ton trucks. Come on guys. You are stuck in a 1/2 ton and 1 ton world. You guys are loosing to cars.com. You have a great run/ test area but you have lost my interest in your Chanel. People cars.com far better information

[@7LiterWS6]

I am a GM fan but look at the turd killing its self losing speed getting 2 mpg at 5k plus rpms. Duramax is the only way in a HD truck. But if the didn't build these trucks we wouldn't have 6.0s for swaps and turbo set ups where they rule.

[@MCatwar]

friends just got a 2017 sierra Denali hd 3500 and dang

[@4.0gpa44]

I almost never drive my 4.3l gas truck above 3500 rpm, and I drive heavy trailers.

[@Powerman2417]

Finally doing the gas versions of the heavy duty trucks!!

[@tyl1464]

Am I missing something here? I pull 30' sprayer trailer with two 1500 gallon water tanks and more often than not two glyphosate totes with a old Chev 3/4 ton with 350 granted not going up mountains. But these guys seem to think they have a massive load with those two totes

[@martinbecerra6926]

Do this engine come the AFM/DFM gas feature ?

[@huntingfishingandshooting3598]

Hello tfl you should do a test with the trucks in Manuel mode

[@BadmunkyWRX]

I have a 2015 2500HD 6.0 Z71 LT crew cab 4x4. I tow with it a lot. Mostly under 10k. But some times over. I don't tow at high altitudes, or up steep grades like that as there are none here. This truck does everything I ask of it with no problems. I have towed 13k with it and had no problems at all. A few bolt ons and tune go a long way in this truck. But even stock there great trucks. Take care of it and they run forever to! I could have bought a diesel truck but the 10k added cost did not seem worth it for what I do with my truck. FYI you can get some smokin deals on these things if buy at the end of the year. The truck in this video was listed at over 43k. Mine has a lot of options that one does not including the larger cab. I paid just over 46k out the door tax title and plate included for my truck. I have NAV, remote start, fog lights, Home link, power seats, Z71 package, step bars, mud flaps, spray in bedliner, and lots more that truck does not have and before taxes title and plate I paid almost the same as that one stickers for! (My sticker price was a little over 53k) These are great trucks. If you need to tow a bit more than a 1500 can handle, or you're just going to be maxing a 1500 out then this is the truck for you!

[@virgelboyd1792]

What happened to the Ram 6.4 gauntlet pull that was having the trailer sway problems?

[@TFLtruck]

+Virgel Boyd We are editing videos as fast as possible. The Ram video will publish next week.

[@jbradley100]

The Fast Lane Truck I noticed this pull was faster than the last 6.0 Ike gauntlet review back for the 2015 model year. Is this do to the truck being a dbl cab compared to crew. How does the ram compare since it got destroyed last time. At least a full min behind.

[@jimbooker3685]

What was the gear ratio 3.73 or 4.10

[@007dukenukem]

i literally clicked on this because i saw the bigtex trailer, freaking love em

[@MrRGiller]

Why doesn't GM offer the 6.2 V-8 for this truck like they do the 1500 series?

[@hogzilla1171]

The 6.2L is a light-duty, high-performance engine using a less robust aluminum block, high compression ratio and high-pressure direction fuel injection system. The 6.0L is a simpler and tougher heavy-duty engine with a CGI block.

[@MrRGiller]

I would think that GM could manufacturer a more robust, 6.2 V-8 to install in the HD truck. Perhaps, GM will do that one of these days.

[@hogzilla1171]

They could, and I think they are planning on replacing the L96 Vortec with a more modern engine, but they're in desperate need of one now and I don't see the going much larger than the 6.2L L86. Ford is planning a new gas engine that will supposedly be 7+ liters, and I think that will be the engine of choice for people that want gas. GM needs to stop being late to the party.

[@SurelyYewJest]

They could, and they likely will at some point, possibly for the 2018/2019 trucks. But even if they do an iron block 6.2, its power will be reduced from the 450-460 of the LT1. I'd peg an iron block version ready for commercial HD abuse to be 385-400hp tops, and 420-440tq.

[@NoStress90s]

the 6.2 is not the right engine for the job, the 6.0 is the real work horse.

[@brianmoore1164]

Please remember that if we could get the Gov out of our business and eliminate the CAFE and EPA garbage this truck would be powered by a LS7.

[@evanwaller2612]

Ole “Mr Truck “ isn’t too sharp . He says most gas 3/4 tons have a vacuum booster . Completely false have had dodge and Chevy gas 2500 . All hydroboost . GM has run hydroboost forever

[@AngeloHerrera-ow3po]

Chevy needs to bring back the 7.4 big block, that would do burnouts while carrying that trailer up the hill.

[@gzzacordeon]

I tow 12,000-18,000 lbs on a daily basis. This probably is not for me, but its a great truck. I just get so much more efficiency out of a diesel. I know its more expensive to maintain but I rather do that than putting 100 dollars of gas every 4 hours.

[@GoldenWolf6]

I'm no expert but why does it sound like that and at 6,000 rpm. I feel like the motor is going to blow. I'm getting into hotshotting and this makes me not want to get a 2500. I know the recommended is a 3500 but I was told you can do it with this but it sounds like it's struggling.

[@AximusPrime33]

That motor is built to howl. She's fine. Have them in a silverado and in a 2500 suburban, both did plenty of moderate-heavy towing. Both rigs still run today. Both have truck has 190k. Suburban has 206k.

[@kyle-327]

In reality no one is going to pull that weight with a truck like that up a step mountain grade. I have the same year 2017 Chevy 2500 hd with the gas engine but I don't really pull any thing because I don't need to that's why I didn't get a diesel. Why not do a more practical load test instead of just the same thing all the time because it's obvious a gas isn't going to stand a chance on a diesel course. I'm just trying to say it's kinda a unfair test and not very practical.

[@Nobody-c6g]

What are the maximum specs on this engine and set up and how much were you towing?

[@yorkchris10]

WOT - that's how a six man crew and tools and equipment drove going home for the week-end in the 80's.

[@johnwesley1660]

Desperately want to see the same test in the Ford F-250 6.2 gas please.

[@TFLtruck]

+John Wesley We are supposed to get the 6.2 Ford soon. Please stay tuned.

[@canddmeyer]

Sorry blackericdenice, but that's what everyone thought about the new Ford diesel, and the Chevy & Ram diesel both whipped the Ford.

[@bunz2197]

zip89105 the 6.7 power stroke was updated not all new the Dmax was new but I won't a rematch because the update 6.7 power stroke pulls way better then the all new dmax I mean way better.

[@dieselmutt8865]

Lol! You guys crack me up with your "semi bridge" remarks. "Real" trucks follow a bridge law chart which pertains to length vs. number of axles vs weight. That has nothing to do with your tote placement. The reason you see them spread the load divided is to place the weight over the axle groups to reduce stress on the trailer structure which you did the opposite here in this case.

[@mountainhobo]

Forgive me, I only say that because I like both of these guys -- Kent, why are you hurting yourself with all that excess weight? You were never rated for it, and each day you're hauling the extra load takes its toll. We want to watch your content for many years to come.

[@BeachJedi101]

I missed it, is that the 6 speed or the 8 speed transmission? Got the 6 in my 1500 and it's definitely its weak point.

[@larry8065]

It's the 6-speed.

[@highonlifefishing4007]

If you truly hace logic, youd realize that the 6.0 is a great engine only because chevy has it tuned with some very crappy hp and torque numbers unlike dodge and ford who really use every inch of their engines to the consumers advantage.