2017 GSX-R1000R vs S1000RR, RSV4 RF & R1 | 184MPH+++ SMACKDOWN!!!

[@BrockDavidson]

Listen Andre the giant,...aka 650ib. Pick on people of your own build, so that you can quit getting your ass kicked using our parts. Weight is VERY important, of course, but we can watch your aerodynamic disadvantage (from your wide upper body) cost you races. Not only can you not properly tuck (said with love!), simple items like the camera placement hampering your tuck, even more, are KILLING YOU. FYI: Lukes gixxer has a basic flash, we will be outfitting him with faster components as they are developed (:

[@650ib]

Brock Davidson Luke had a gopro session on the tank that prevented my tuck. Lol. Rematch coming asap!

[@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS]

Brock Davidson LOL...I was wondering what you thought of this video. Need another chunky guy on the BMW.

[@davidtranmedia5112]

Brock Davidson I think if you put someone that can tuck and out that camera else where I think gsxr had a chance. But the s1k has more aftermarket parts on it then the gsxr do it not fair.

[@favian3380]

Brock Davidson Yeah I want to see that s1000rr get its ass whop

[@danielstevens3132]

You guy are talking crazy the tuck had nothing to do with the loss to the BMW!

[@mattdaigneault8638]

oh my god don't stop what you're doing.. you're the inspiration of why i'm doing my MSF course class right now... it changed my life For the better

[@650ib]

+Matt Daigneault Thanks Matt!

[@6025094]

thanks for being the first to do a real test. looks like the Gsxr has great midrange power.

[@robertgibson5475]

I hope you bring back videos like this, this Summer. I could care less about giving bikes away but I absolutely love your Smackdown videos

[@650ib]

Epic smackdown video coming next week. We still can't ride in Cleveland. Apologies.

[@robertgibson5475]

650ib i feel your pain. I live in Columbus

[@JaretCampisi]

I just love these SMACKDOWN vids so much!!! I don't know how you don't get arrested on a weekly basis though lol you'll have to teach me your ways :)

[@650ib]

+Jaret Campisi Hahahahahaha! Ancient African American secret.

[@convex7456]

Recon

[@hadoukenhadouken9219]

Great video 650ib. Loved the led display on the 2017 gsxr. Looks like angel wings, a send off to the heavens as you shift up on gears and ascend to greatness.

[@tds397]

Your laughter is so hilarious when you put the smackdown on 'em..."uheahuheuauehaeuhaehu" lmao

[@JRDNGIXX]

Same octane, same sprocket setup, similar upgrades (if any) similar rider skill level and weight between the gsxr and bmw will reveal the true strength of each machine

[@RudraxT]

yeah thats what i am saying

[@slowmazda4393]

JRDNGIXX that's my s1000rr. stock sprockets the BMW just has a 520 conversion.

[@RudraxT]

that should be done on gsxr then it would be fare

[@stevehash158]

I Agree And stop that fookin 1 gear shit its to many variables the game gz i taught IB had learned.. " gear is 219 times more easy.. Even 3 gear at 60mph is even better then both guys can think about tucking the best way possible.. the gixxer with same miles and sprockets and gearing and octan will actually edge a BMW i think.. at least they will be fookin close.. They also need a after market windscreen to make it close

[@slowmazda4393]

RDX GAMING NETWORK 3 there's no way a 520 conversion will male that much of a difference.

[@Specz_the_pro]

That was awesome!!! As usual, Great Content 600ib

[@richbailey2666]

I had the pleasure of riding with my good buddy 650Ib the other day in the DMV he is no joke. Riding at high speed is off the chart...!! Had a lot of fun Thanks for coming to visit.

[@650ib]

+Rich Bailey Lol! Thanks man! You ride faster than me! Our video will be epic and I will post it next week! Looking forward to returning.

[@mr.d.1811]

Good man, 650. Took your defeat, like a champ in the beginning. 👍 Continue, to be safe and have fun! 😎🏍️

[@jaredsmith4944]

Always high quality, and always about bikes. Love your channel.

[@ChrisJohn_444]

The octane difference, though...would give the BMW more top-end. Nonetheless, that you were out in front until the later parts, is a testament to the midrange torque of that engine. Interesting showdown.

[@Zx10mezz]

That guys tuck game is way better than yours. That wind drag can make a big difference!

[@raceaddict3212]

Mezz Mezz I noticed that as well.. i think power for power they were very similar, then I noticed the BMW has a double bubble vs the Gixxer having stock windscreen and the BMW guy had a better tuck, u can see his camera is lower in the bike with his onboard footage plus near the 3 minute mark when he passes 650ib u can see his head is lower than 650ib in addition to having a double bubble. That skywalking was completely a matter of aerodynamics ,not power.. so double bubble and lower tuck I think the Gixxer will be a tie till middle of 6th and then the Gixxer I'm almost certain will have better aeros on the big end as I've tested this bike myself. And s1000s almost always fall off in 6th from aeros from that flat nosed front fairing..

[@omrivdmerwe]

650ib please see of you can do this race again stock vs stock we all want to see that. Keep it up loving the vids

[@650ib]

+Suck2227 Hey, I'd love to do that but we don't know anyone with stock bikes around here. Lol. Everyone mods them immediately.

[@skylinegt311]

Damn video didn't show in my sub box. Glad I caught it on the home page

[@myfrozenvision]

This Time I liked you're Intro way more. Keep up your Good Work!

[@Stupfell]

This is called real competition.... Great work man!

[@Turbo329]

Man! The Gixxer got Handled. I was expecting it to be a bit closer. That S1000RR has devastating top end and can even give H2 riders fits. I would still pick the Gixxer for an all around track bike over the beemer just on its handling attributes alone. Regarding the comments about Ib tucking more: It's true, his camera placement is less than optimal and I always register lower trap speeds at the track when I'm running my camera. It definitely cost him some bike lengths but I still think he would've lost by a couple. The runs were too consistent and the beemer pulled ahead everytime. Poor tuck consequences would have shown up at 150mph plus. Not so much under that.

[@650ib]

+Turbo329 Agreed. Lol.

[@celticwarrior5959]

Turbo329 Dino tells all

[@Aulric27]

Gotta love the new gixxer. Beautiful bike

[@SaLVAgEKillZ]

Love your videos man ! Love the bikes . I have a 2013 s1000rr myself and it's a georgous bike

[@Shann709]

Oohh.... Man! That was one sick smackdown with the 2017 gsxr

[@CrazyPanda688]

Damn that 2004 r1 ran with the 2017 GSXR up to about 155! Impressive for such an older bike

[@Gypsyman40]

Been waiting for you to post this video. The results are not surprising due to the stock numbers on the GSX-R. Especially against a battle hard titan such as the bmw s1000rr. Nice video my dude. The 2012 GSX-R got you that first race.

[@raceaddict3212]

Gypsyman Racing this was an aerodynamics race.. the power should be similiar.. BMW guy had better tuck and a double bubble windscreen to help the rider cut thru the wind better.. notice how slow he passed in the upper gears when the wind matters... stock hp means nothing on these new bikes that have throttle by wire and are highly restricted from the factory.. it's the finished product that counts.. sure the BMW makes 15- 20 more hp stock for stock but it's not going to be 20hp ahead when there both tuned with bolt ons.. bmw doesent gain as much as the Japanese bikes when there flashed and tuned and fitted with exhaust because there not as restricted to begin with..this was a very even race and comparison but 650 needs to get lower and or have a similar windscreen as the bmw to stay in the fight..but the power is definitively there..aerodynamics is worth hp for sure and 650 was at a disadvantage in that regard..

[@Gypsyman40]

raceaddict321 I agree that aerodynamics and weight allow you to maximize your bikes hp, certainly. 650 has a bad tuck, which I would account to his height and the size of the bikes. With that said, taller riders should slip better than shorter riders. I feel like the weight played a strong role. Both bikes were unrestricted and had full exhaust. Brock demonstrated that the GSX-R even with a full exhaust and flash wouldn't make as much hp as the bmw with the same modes. Also, all this doesn't matter really because if you pull up to the challenge, you put yourself out there no matter the advantages. Everybody thinks they're fast until them get with someone who is faster. Lol

[@raceaddict3212]

Gypsyman Racing very true indeed and I agree weight does play a huge role but they were identical in weight according to the description part of the vid on screen.. so while the BMW may be a few hp ahead (which even that doesent mean everything) the Gixxer still in my opinion performs better maybe because of power curve, state of tune and aeros.. and depending on how much better aerodynamically it is could easily negate even a 5-10 hp deficit once in 5th and 6th.. also what i think is highly important about this race is that the BMW has the brentune alpha package which is one of there latest and greatest flashes and from a company thats been tuning bmws for a very long time vs a new bike that hasn't been fully figured out as far as optimum state of tune.. the new Gixxers future does look brighter from what i see so far.. I can trap the same mph out of a zx14r as my gen2 busa in a standing 1 mile or rolling 9/10ths of a mile run with same tuner, same mods and me riding both bikes despite the 14r making 15 more whp and 10 more ft lbs of tq.. the aeros of the busa was superior enough to balance out a 15hp deficit.. i do alot of high speed runs so I can look at the vid and tell what the downfall of that Gixxer was and it wasn't so much the power. All aeros..

[@Gypsyman40]

raceaddict321 again I agree on aerodynamics. Still, the gixxer will need more than a tune it seems. I won't be surprised to see the top performers with cams. The busa has incredible aerodynamics since inception. Great chatting with you. Keep it coming

[@daNeterAUsaru999]

That big dog power of the S1000RR is still hard to overcome. It why I love the bike. Three year old HP4 and I still whip on the other brands.

[@650ib]

+Godspeeds Spacebender Yup!!!

[@TheMatrixcube]

fully brock,d out ;p now that right there should be a t-shirt or a sticker! love your videos man

[@THESNIP3RMAST3R]

Yo +650ib You have an excellent camera angle setup when tucked in this video, please continue with it!!!

[@JuanDinger265]

One day we are destined to see "The American Justice system v 650ib - Smackdown" !! Until that day comes though, I will continue to watch your vids. You guys are nuts the way you race on the streets !!

[@donjuan1933]

Best video to date my friend. Good job ib.

[@andreahighsides7756]

Everyone's talking about the tuck but there are other things that hurt aero/top end pull. Jeans or any clothing that flaps around creates a lot more resistance, gauntlet gloves will make a small difference, sticking your elbows out instead of down by the bike makes a tiny difference, and pointing your toes in helps. Also try to keep your butt back in the seat and obviously your chin close to the tank

[@daNeterAUsaru999]

Any reason why 89 octane fuel was used instead of 93 octane on the Suzuki?

[@apexhunter2k]

great vid 650ib, keep up the good work racing the latest and greatest.

[@shams923]

Thanks for the smack down... BMW S1000RR is ❤️❤️❤️

[@edrichdebeer8621]

The smackdowns are awesome.

[@truckinglife424]

Your weight and that camera on the tank is killing your race bruh. Great video

[@elimott7201]

Question @650ib which is actually fast your flashed r1m or the flashed gsxr1000r in this video I’m having a hard time picking which to upgrade to

[@650ib]

A flashed 2017+ gixxer 1k is faster than the R1. The R1 is better on the track.

[@cmj20002]

The Aprillia may not be as fast, but it is one of the sweetest looking and sounding bikes made. I love The RSV4.

[@savagestarlight5644]

Even though the Aprillia was the slowest, it's exhaust note can't be beat.

[@808Affliction]

You're a BAD ASS RIDER!!!! Whoohoo I would never be able to keep up with my FZ09 😂

[@Ihelpanytime]

That GSX-R1000R could've hit 186mph in no time if you weigh 150-lbs

[@iakwbosnomik8622]

650ib your laugh is hilarious! Great runs by the way!..

[@MOTOPILOT6]

Hi 650. I'd love a stab at each of these bikes. For fun. 2016 RSV4RR. Slip on Competition Werkes exhaust. Aprilia Race ECU. Gearing for improved torque. Ideal would be a full Akro exhaust and matched flash. But.....im game to throw down. Im 170lbs so it might balance out. Problem in these races is making sure the rider drops to the ideal rolling start gear. And has pro throttle and shifting techniques. Dead stop races seperate the men from the boys and show the broader power abilities of a bike. Im rambling. Lol. Too bad we live light years away. Lemme know when you land in southern CA. And thanks for the fun video, bud. MOTO PILOT

[@650ib]

Thank you!

[@hbkrider1643]

Wooowwww I reallyyyy love ur videos. I feel like I'm riding that gixxer. And also ur laughs too. Thanks for ur video. Hope to get more of these too.

[@650ib]

+Sulove Nakarmi Thanks, more to come!

[@AJTalks]

Why run 89? The GSXR recommends no less than 90 octane

[@ZX6R2KGT]

Because in a video that Brock Performance did with this bike on the dyno they used 89-octane with their flash. The bike made 193 at the wheel. Brock posted on this video about them only having a basic flash on the bike, which I'm guessing is the 193whp flash. They had another video of the bike making 204 by changing the oil to what he normally likes to use and I think MR12.

[@drewmorg.]

@@ZX6R2KGT Accurate

[@iDopeD9]

What's up Ib? I'm a fan of the channel so much that you have inspired me to start motovlogging in the DMV. The police don't bother your channel with the high speed runs ?

[@everything_awesome]

thoroughly liked YOUR videos 650 ib,i have one doubt-r1 beats s1krr ,s1krrr beated gsxr 1000r, and then you beat same r1 with a light rider from Suzuki. This shows that either you are playing or love s1000rr more than other bikes.

[@jrelax8236]

bullseye!!!! wtf was that..

[@richardmoseley8486]

I thought I was THE only one who picked up on that

[@RudraxT]

i am eager to see that gsxr running the same chain and sprocket of s1000rr in this video and 93 octane fuel will turn into

[@ckim6400]

Lol Andre the Giant! I love it! lucky for me I'm 5'8" 130 lbs with boots on. I am one with my 2009 GSXR 1000 and 2013 GSX 1340 R. No one can out tuck me! Although sometimes I do have to lean over the windscreen to keep the front wheel down.

[@joshua6200]

Another amazing vid!

[@2m173]

I can already feel the negative backlash coming after you showed running 89 instead of 93 even though Suzuki calls for 90 on the new GSXR!

[@stevehash158]

Octan has alot to say when i rode 95 instead of 98 in EU it was 3-5whp on different dyno

[@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS]

Steve Hash so you dyno'd your bike on 2 different dynos on 2 different days, and got 2 different results? Color me shocked.

[@stevehash158]

No we had the same dyno same day.. But other has had a higher difference and some lower usual between 3-5whp

[@2m173]

We are all aware that extra octane does nothing in an engine that is not designed for it correct?

[@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS]

2M other than make less hp.

[@cameron5543]

Hey man I was wondering what type of Bluetooth headset or communication gear that you use while you're riding? It seems that the quality is always crystal-clear And loud do you have any recommendations

[@A.N_BLAK]

Maaaan Love em both. New Gsxr dope man

[@johnboss3562]

One of your best videos. Awesome. I d love to see you on a VMAX though.

[@himanshushekhar312]

Which is more faster Gsxr or S1000rr or V4 when all are stock??

[@WhiteBlaze5541]

Regardless the gsxr still gives the BMW a run for it's money for sure. It blew me away how much low end power it has. You pulled away so fast in the beginning of each race only the BMW was able to catch back up.

[@RahulAllanMedia]

None of your Good buddies have a 2017 Fireblade SP??? :(

[@650ib]

+Rahul Allan Yes, I met a person with the SP last week. We are working on a video.

[@RahulAllanMedia]

650ib Oh Finally :D Cannot wait for the video :')

[@jaredsmith4944]

650ib yeeesssss

[@ilroryyli5520]

Heard there's some mechanical issues with the bike, but still can't wait to see the video

[@yegsy2432]

this aint the tt bud

[@TuneOnthe1]

Intro music always on point like a pencil Ib !

[@colehare3596]

How do you think the race vs the Aprilia RSV4 would have went if it was the 2017? I'm looking into the RSV4 RR and its getting me pretty excited, beautiful bike with great power and electronics.

[@650ib]

+Cole Hare The 2017 RSV4 is faster than the 2016. It would have been a better race.

[@6speedsti241]

freaking awesome video best of best of

[@ex-bladersc5926]

Smackdown is cool 😎. Thx for Videos 👍

[@theheretic6739]

What with 89 octane commute fuel in GsXr and 93 octane race fuel in the S1000rr ? Also the Gsxr seemed to have been shaky on acceleration gear shifting at wrong rpms, I don't know the rider wasn't confident enough.

[@adult1122]

I agree with brock! Not a fair smack down but an important 1☝️

[@praztphoenixbonekboyz4653]

Man that cool fast, i like it that gixxer 1000 2017, awesome, i subricbe u so i can see another gixxer videos from u, hve a great day with that gixxer and keep safety man :D

[@650ib]

+Prazt phoenix bonek Boyz More gixxer videos coming soon!

[@praztphoenixbonekboyz4653]

650ib bro, u should upgrade that gixxy up to minimum 3 steps so u can win agains the other, even wth H2 probably haha, i like ur laugh make me chill :D

[@davidstancu2963]

What was done to that r1??? I weigh 140lbs too, but taking down a s1000rr gotdam

[@gamiddop]

I noticed 650 that you're running traction control a one and in that mode wheelie control is off I believe which would mean that you were making acceleration harder for yourself. I believe you may have gotten better times if you were in mode a 2.

[@SmokeNYC]

Great racing!

[@650ib]

+Smoke 1 Thanks!

[@luckytw0838]

Nice bikes & nice riding. Although I don't approve of these speeds on public road, non the less, fun to watch! Every since my last wreck on my previous bike, I guess I lost some back bone on the sport bike I have now. Ride safe man.

[@650ib]

+LuCkY TW0 Thanks man!

[@khalidmohd8960]

I really like this guys way of making his video. very good quality videos but he seriously needs to do something other than smackdowns like talk about the new technologies in bikes talk about any bikes coming up talk your top 5 or 10 on everything about bikes like your favourite bikes or something be creative damn it!!!!

[@7drakkar1]

That BMW Is A Beast!

[@Nick212NYC]

Nice! Need to get a tune in and I'm all set.

[@jsd6058]

Hello everyone I have a question I am in south Florida I can't decide between 2016 rsv4 rf vs. 2017 s1000rr witch one is a better bike to buy? Thanks everyone

[@roadrunner9481]

Nice gixxer..

[@alexfadleyusn]

ib....your RSV4 vs Luke's GSXR would be an epic battle I think try and make that happen

[@matttaafe8039]

ib surely the cam position ruins your aero?? drag is a huge factor even if all weights are equal?

[@JohnConnor12]

Gixxers are great bikes for street riding, since they seem to start making power at lower RPM's, but they lack that top end when it comes to these roll on races. I bet it would do a better job in an actual drag race.

[@yupi351w]

good one ib thanks for showing us that bad ass gixxrer

[@ericdouglas-depaul9779]

Good comparison! I've never been a GSXR fan, always a Yamaha fan however, I own a 05 GSXR-1000. Just curious, where does the power band start on the new 2017 GSXR? The 05 really starts to scream right around 7k RPM. Once you hit it, that beast will put your rear to the back of the seat in a hurry!

[@sural89]

the sadest part is the gixxer start in first gear while the s1k is in second gear,that's why he took off like a rocket love to know who has the shortest trans (both are 17x45)but it's not about the aero,the s1k seem to have a better top end

[@Smokebox_345]

Yess finally a gsxr1000r

[@Nirzoo]

That V4 Sound.

[@CheerX9087]

Good run! I need an Aprilia.

[@j.w.presents9552]

People that argue 650ib's tuck didnt hurt his racing knows nothing about racing. I've lost to my good buddy just from me wearing a BOOKBAG when otherwise id beat him any other time.

[@logan8191]

Lol at 5:30 that sign said to go 45 around that corner and ib was like na ima do 100😂

[@metal8831]

Let's try chasing R1 2017 VS GIXXER R 2017 !!!

[@rrydinhigh2452]

good racing, no doubt. But we ALL KNOW. the Suzuki was at a FULL disadvantage from jumpstreet, based on the difference in the spec's(@ 1:19 ) of the 2 bikes. Wheel weight, & drive train weight, matters. Bearings, matter. Octane rating, matters! Level up the spec's on that exact same gixxer to the bmw's spec's, and I got 5k on that Zuke, all day long. The BMW did nothing special. It deserves no glory. It only did, what it was spec'd out to do. Simple.

[@raceaddict3212]

Brocks ecu flash on the Gixxer? How so. Or should i say who did he use to do the flash.. brocks doesent do ecu flashing if I'm not mistaken unless he just started using a flash software beginning with the new gixxer. All of the ecu flash services on his site are services completed by guhl motors and then mailed back to brocks and then brocks mails the ecu back to the customer.. in his ecu testing video it was another company all together that provided brocks with the flashed ecu so is there anyway u can confirm who exactly flashed and tuned this motorcycle..

[@kbell7834]

raceaddict321 He does flashing now .

[@raceaddict3212]

EcoboostKevin brocks has no flash for this bike available to the public.. I just found out he has the software now to start flashing but has not sold a flash from his own software tuning.. the bike in this video must be a beta test bike that brocks played with.. so all ecu flashes still available on his site still are being shipped to guhl motors.. so as of now brocks still doesent offer ecu flashes officially.. the question is, is the bike in this video a result of brocks trial tune or is it the company called Ftecu (flash tune) from the video he put out showing what the bike does in unrestricted form.. so is it a brocks tune, ftecu tune, or ftecu restriction removal only with brocks pc5 tuning for fueling changes..

[@kbell7834]

raceaddict321 thanks for the clarification

[@trillabp3971]

Maybe one day ill be able to smackdown with you 650ib

[@adult1122]

Camera in the way can't fully tuck! Rematch ib! That gsxr is faster then the bmw check the stats

[@frankpoupou1]

Very simple....make the conversion 520, ceramic bearings and forged wheels on the gixxer and you will get the answer!!!! good video by the way.

[@650ib]

+twowheelsonly Agreed!!! Luke is working in that.

[@usoohot]

I love the new gsxr 1k but watching the speedo, it doesnt seem to get up to 170 ish as fast as your bikes.

[@motozest7856]

Conclusion: get in shape!

[@antonyesterhuizen3977]

How does the Gsxr do against the new R1?

[@antonyesterhuizen3977]

1mic My thoughts exactly. All depends on riders skill as well. 650ib should tackle it with his R1m just for the fun.

[@antonyesterhuizen3977]

1mic I have the R6 Rossi Replica just love that scheme. Probably not in group?

[@antonyesterhuizen3977]

1mic Yes bud, it is

[@WCK123456]

Its the old R1, probably a 2009 -2012 model.

[@slowmazda4393]

I ride with these guys. that gsxr is on par with a similar modded new r1 or possibly faster

[@danielrichards2246]

damn, that Aprillia sounds good

[@650ib]

I agree!

[@thomasvebr4004]

I love that euphoria laugh in this acceleration ,I laugh too😂

[@alexjonson2931]

sir I respect you a lot love from India I would suggest you to make some viral vid to get you cannel more exposure you deserve a lot more subscribers

[@650ib]

+B K I tried to make a viral video with the swimming pool video but it was an epic failure. Lol

[@chimpnasty2]

650ib haha it's ok 650. You live and you learn

[@colin4653]

It's all about the click bait!!!!!

[@alexjonson2931]

yeah true

[@650ib]

Colin lol

[@TheTheDarkHunter98]

Ib what do you think about the Mv Agusta F4? , i have never seen one on your vids , thankss.

[@danielcasteen4534]

Gsxr 1000 coming to the fleet??

[@s1khphp536]

650ib finalyyyyyyyy broooo respectttttt. Please go against that 2012 Gsxr again. Because i think that 2012 Gsxr Got you!!!!. Which gearing does that 2012 running on ?

[@650ib]

+jungle man Not sure about the gearing but he weighs 90lbs less than me. Lol.

[@s1khphp536]

650ib can you pleaseeeee ask for me wich gearing does that Gixxer have?

[@nabiji]

HP differential is negligible. Very rarely will you get straights long on the track to really see how much faster either machine will be in a straight line. Despite similar handling, that GSXR is able to punch out of corners way better than the S1000RR. Near stock too. In my view the GSXR is the faster bike.

[@stevehash158]

"SIMILAR HANDLING" BHAHAHAHAHAH wow well you`re new at this..

[@MrBluegooh]

Fook me Lads, That has got to go down as a fooking great day out!!! Live it loud gents.