Sorry to do another Civic review guys, but this one was filmed right before we left for the Si and Type R media drive. Even though we did a full review on the Sport hatchback last year, we felt a full review on the fully loaded Sport Touring would be appreciated since most of you buy this car with an automatic :)
@justindavis59837 жыл бұрын
Don't be sorry, I was wanting a review from you on the fully loaded trim. :)
@justindavis59837 жыл бұрын
Madeline Monahan I just really wanted Sofyan's review because I know his perspective on things. Savage geese's review was pretty good tho, I thought.
@boobs23237 жыл бұрын
he did a touring?
@malikbrother80227 жыл бұрын
+Redline Reviews If you don't mind me saying, you don't seem excited about this car as you did with Elantra Sport where you seemed to have enjoyed accelerating to the redline in Elantra Sport 201-hp mated with manual. Honestly, is Honda Civic Hatchback Sport not good as Elantra Sport? I am curious about it. Thanks in advance for your inputs.
@joshuar45357 жыл бұрын
I am glad you showed the 1.5T with the automatic.
@lihlin92857 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who actually likes the exterior design of this car? I think it looks pretty cool, Haha.
@noonesfool7 жыл бұрын
Lih Lin No you are not
@tmmurphy7 жыл бұрын
My boss has this exact car and I think it is a very striking and distinctive vehicle in the sonic gray. Every time I see it pass on the highway during our morning commute it reminds me of Darth Vader's Tie Fighter. Subtle the car is not. I can spot it from 50 yards and that is kind of the point in a sport version of a Civic. Attention getting without the negative connotation of a fart can or sheet metal spoiler.
@mikixP6 жыл бұрын
Tf u laughing for weirdo
@CCSAudioLord6 жыл бұрын
I liked enough to buy one!
@PoorDog696 жыл бұрын
It's nice and sporty
@jonathangillman31707 жыл бұрын
This car is GORGEOUS!!! I just bought a hatchback sport touring edition in this sonic grey color and I get compliments multiple times a day
@vivien45717 жыл бұрын
I'm so jealous. I went to the Honda dealership today looking specifically for this one and they had none. Went with an accord in the end... now I'm regretting lol
@Pərfectchāøs6 жыл бұрын
Rarest color in N America....just bought one yesterday...XD
@ryanlittleton56156 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Gillman How is it holding up?
@kafailau68496 жыл бұрын
I just got 2019 Hatchback touring with this color, it was amazing. Even my boss said my car is amazing cool with this color
@sveddish5 жыл бұрын
@@vivien4571 So you went to the dealer to buy the Civic and changed your mind and got the Accord instead the same day because they didn't have it in your color? omfg
@oiops7 жыл бұрын
Your car reviews are consistently better than the auto magazine's who have KZbin channels.
@crazytrashman1237 жыл бұрын
Fried Chicken Now I thought he WAS a magazine company. I gotta say, his reviews are REALLY good.
@realNikoCousin6 жыл бұрын
I've had this white Sport Touring Civic X for a year now and I get asked questions about it at least once a week, still after a year. I commute over 100 miles round per day and love the drive every time. Honda nailed it on this one.
@ryankelly18465 жыл бұрын
I have a Hyundai veloster, I love it but need something bigger I've been heavily deb and tong getting a sport hatch how do u like urs after 2 years?
@CadenMichnal2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently trying to find this model right now to purchase...hard to find! How would you recommend this for uber or Lyft? I plan on putting probably about the same miles on the car per day and so reliability and low maintenance cost is an absolute must! Also how is it on gass. Any flaws to know about this car?
@realNikoCousin2 жыл бұрын
I loved this car. Shortly after I made that comment, a distracted driver using her phone Dale Earhardted me at 70mph and put me in the wall hard. Totaled my car. I still miss it RIP
@CadenMichnal2 жыл бұрын
@@realNikoCousin thank god you are ok! So how was the car reliability wise, gas mileage etc, before Karen decided to ruin your beauty?
@realNikoCousin2 жыл бұрын
@@CadenMichnal i drove the piss out of it. I mean I drove it like I stole it and it always delivered. I seemed to always get 30-36mpg and it went. I did my own royal purple every 7k miles and i think the engine would’ve done typical honda 400k reliability no problem. even after driving the crap out of it. The only thing I can say is that the CVT, while it never slipped or failed in any way.. After I would drive the hell out of it, it would smell, like it was burning. It had 33k on it when Karen came along and ruined my day. It’s a superb car
@justindavis59837 жыл бұрын
That color is gorgeous! especially on that car. 😍
@dedeviI7 жыл бұрын
Justin David thats an ugly ass color. the fk u talking about.
@justindavis59837 жыл бұрын
I know, it's completely subjective. 😃
@bobbowie93507 жыл бұрын
Justin David I like that a color too
@shawnkent55787 жыл бұрын
Love the colour
@haryowinanto83927 жыл бұрын
Ace Portgas Everyone opinion is different
@towncaptain77 жыл бұрын
In Canada we get the 7" display on the base LX hatch, and a manual option on the Sport Touring
@TechStuff137 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you reviewed this specific trim because its the exact one I'm looking to get. Much appreciated. Great review!
@pedrofernandez38937 жыл бұрын
No wonder Ford is almost giving up on the Focus. Cannot compete against this.
@nanoii79186 жыл бұрын
pedro fernandez uhh yeah it’s not like the R.S. has 50 more hp and a 0-60 a full second faster yeh yeah
@LouAntonioGiordano6 жыл бұрын
Nano II for $20g more too
@luissandoval15156 жыл бұрын
Nano II the RS is 40 grand 😂 and Type R shits on it all day
@nanoii79186 жыл бұрын
Luis Sandoval Benefits the Type R has over the Focus RS: Cheaper Better ride quality Better interior Slightly faster top speed ______________________________ Benefits the Focus RS has over the Type R: Barely anymore expensive and is SOOOO much quicker Better looking 50 more horsepower 0-60 launch (0-100 kmh launch) more than a full second faster. Conclusion: they are tied
@motorcitymanman77116 жыл бұрын
@@nanoii7918 The RS competition is the Type R ......NOT the SI
@pj87617 жыл бұрын
Looks certainly can be very subjective. Reading thru the comments here, so many people commenting that they think this is an ugly car. Very funny to me. I think this is a great looking car, and by far the best looking Civic; especially in this sport touring trim.
@itsatrap49867 жыл бұрын
PJ87 No, this is oogly.
@daebak73703 жыл бұрын
This gen design is a classic. Beautiful design
@williamsarna76287 жыл бұрын
I always watch your reviews when shopping for a new vehicle. A few years ago I bought the Honda Fit on your recommendation and loved it. This time my wife and I bought the Civic Spot Touring. It is truly a great car. We appreciate your comprehensive reviews and objectivity.
@gaivoron7 жыл бұрын
Honda officially got me confused with all these Civic models!!!!
@justindavis59837 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Civic sedan LX, EX, EXL, Touring. Civic Coupe with LX, LXP, EX, Touring. Civic hatchback with LX, Sport, and Sport Touring, Type R. Civic SI which comes with the coupe and sedan...
@cmara36967 жыл бұрын
Justin David and the RS6
@DogTrekker7 жыл бұрын
So many haters. This is just an awesome car. I know because I have the exact same car as in this review. And there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the CVT. The paddle shifters in sport mode work great. At this stage of my life, I am over pushing in a clutch.
@jesussalinasr7 жыл бұрын
CoCoLuv9491 how does it drive on the highway? I have a 09 civic and on the highway I feel like it struggles to keep up
@Sam-mw5hx7 жыл бұрын
CoCoLuv9491 eww cvt
@A_guan7 жыл бұрын
CoCoLuv9491 cvts are terrible no actual gears! How can you live with a car where when you accelerate it sticks at 2 or 3k rpm wondering when it'll shift. I've driven a friend's crv which has the same cvt and that constant wrrr-ing when you accelerate was annoying
@penvon7 жыл бұрын
CoCoLuv9491 it's an awesome car because YOU HAVE ONE?......OK
@impulsivedesigns7 жыл бұрын
It's like anything else. Once you know how to use it, you'll be happier with it. I had a 14 civic ex and I now have a 2017 sport touring. If you know how and when to hit the gas partially, or floor it or sweep to full throttle, it works VERY well, is efficient, and faster than its stickshift counterpart.
@hellokyle_7 жыл бұрын
I like it when you do reviews alone and POV shooting style.
@topdog199453 жыл бұрын
I’m in the market for a new vehicle and I test drive a used one today that came off of a lease and well I’m working on getting it! I really like the look of these hatch backs
@Fadic47 жыл бұрын
That's the best color too
@bimastrike877 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't a hatch be taller? That's ridiculous to complain about.
@Cammyy2k4 жыл бұрын
Literally
@RandomGRK7 жыл бұрын
Test drove one today and I was very impressed.
@taurus200777 жыл бұрын
Saw pictures of interior for 2018 Honda Fit and there is a volume knob; yes, there is a volume knob. I'd assume Honda will bring back the volume knob for, hopefully, all 2018 models since almost everybody is complaining about it or missing it.
@danp83097 жыл бұрын
Love the color of the car
@kenshin13686 жыл бұрын
Its even better in person
@TeiwazTheGoat7 жыл бұрын
This Civic looks gorgeous!! I can out wait to own one. I'm so excited to get one and it'll be more car until the thing stops running. Which knowing Honda that'll be 300-600k miles later.
@kangli87947 жыл бұрын
I got the same red one you reviewed last year! It drives great and just scored 130 mph on the highway without a speeding ticket 😃 Car drives like a dream ( a small dream I mean)
@General_M7 жыл бұрын
So many complaints about the looks of the car, and yet, everyone who I know personally who has seen my White Orchid Pearl Civic hatch thinks it looks great. also having owned the sedan and the hatch, the hatch has better rearward visibility. also yes the wheel volume button is no longer a slider, I actually am glad it isn't because I'd probably accidentally hit it when I don't want to, and I never confuse the temp control for the volume knob.
@Alxx..037 жыл бұрын
I really love this color and I really love Civics best car ever made
@DriveAndBeDriven7 жыл бұрын
Neat review, Sofyan! I recently reviewed the Civic Hatchback in the EX trim, and it impressed me quite a bit. The Sport Touring that you choose to test seems like a pretty solid entry in its class, as well. Offering very competative performance, an upscale luxury ambiance, and tons of practicality. As always, keep up the great work, Sofyan! 👍🏽
@BrownBrotha7 жыл бұрын
This is going to be my first car. Just gotta wait till the end of the year
@Stingray74887 жыл бұрын
Good choice. Just got mine this past Saturday. I continue to be very impressed. I negotiated the $29,175 (US) MSRP to $26,900, which totally makes this top-level trim worth it!
@JinFreaks13077 жыл бұрын
Matt Shuster please tell me how did u do it! Share some advice fam! Thank you!!!
@A_guan6 жыл бұрын
Matt Shuster how did you manage to get the price down to 26k? I'm sorta just might go get a mazda3 because of the incredible deals they give me...24k with incentives. I could probably negotiate a bit more too. Hondas are impossible to get 4k off the sticker.
@bobramirez76896 жыл бұрын
Matt Shuster how much are you paying
@TevinP6 жыл бұрын
@@bobramirez7689 got one used 14k miles for $23000
@robertsanchez71857 жыл бұрын
dont hate the cvt just because you prefer manual,this car runs and feels wonderful with the cvt and turbo,feels like im driving a 300hp car
@CommandoMaster5 жыл бұрын
Do u get good gas mileage? Do u have to use premium fuel?
@unrealisticgoals5 жыл бұрын
@@CommandoMaster gas mileage with the civic is class leading. You can put regular in it.
@jarrettbuell34586 жыл бұрын
Great review!! You have asserted my interest in getting this car. What a nice trim, with the right amount of sportiness, at the right price.
@jordanyang30667 жыл бұрын
finally no one has a legit review of the sport touring. thanks I think the prem gas is a deal breaker for the extra 6hp. Considering the ex l now.
@miguel907447 жыл бұрын
The Power Of Dreams 👌🇯🇵
@scottmurphy49467 жыл бұрын
I love this color because in canada you can only get it on the Touring trim. At night it looks like battleship grey
@baldheadlogic7 жыл бұрын
Great Review Sofyan. I really like this Sport Touring. I agree that this should have a rear blind spot monitoring system and cross traffic being the top line model.
@jamillmendoza91807 жыл бұрын
I average 29mpg on my civic sport hatchback. Its fun to drive. It attracts some eyeballs. Ilike it. No regret.
@claudio_wrx7 жыл бұрын
The exhaust adds sex??!!! Count me in!!!!
@hunterk.76465 жыл бұрын
It’s such a beautiful car. Going to be the first car I buy for myself
@robertsanchez71857 жыл бұрын
thank you Sofyan for this wonderful review
@waynewilliams14875 жыл бұрын
The cvt is great! Love the mpg. I wm not sure if the 6. 9 from 0-60 is more the cvt or more the turbo. But it's fast--- no shift shock/delay has to help. Long live the cvt!
@michaelbanko9965 Жыл бұрын
My Honda Accord with the same engine actually simulates shifts a lot even when your just driving it normally and I quite like it to be honest. It gets insane gas mileage for what it is as well
@dankind647 жыл бұрын
i'm happy that they changed the volume slider on the steering wheel. i always accidentally change the volume on the current one.
@CommandoMaster5 жыл бұрын
The only things I would like to see improved is it should have 200hp+ and lower rear. Its actually a really good car for a compact hatch.
@ryankelly18465 жыл бұрын
If they made an si in the hatch model 10/10 would solve my dilemma between the si sedan or sport hatch
@bobbyjones21127 жыл бұрын
You are the best reviewer on KZbin!
@averyhadley98424 жыл бұрын
The hind civic is the best looking hatchback I’ve ever seen!❤️❤️❤️
@ffampire7 жыл бұрын
That said, I wish the Si sedan would trade the micro usb exhaust port for the dual pipes in the hatch.
@mariomoore747 жыл бұрын
Just got sport touring 1 month a go and love it
@blazing90346 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I am sooooo turn between the Civic and Corolla hatchbacks........
@JRGYouTube6 жыл бұрын
Nice unique color. Looks better than the typical black, white, silver and grey colors.
@takishabaker75204 жыл бұрын
The back is perfectly fine for me. This model is the one I want in this year or 2018 or 2019 if i can't get the 2019 ex.
@cadsux7 жыл бұрын
I've owned Honda and Mazda hatchbacks, and I'd consider this too. But I think the '92 Civic hatch and the recent CR-Z are the best looking ones.
@IJWFU37 жыл бұрын
my mom bought this car yesterday and she loves it :)
@TheFluffyWendigo6 жыл бұрын
Have mine in that exact color. I love the excellent mileage but kind of 50/50 on using premium fuel. Still it takes me two weeks to drain the tank which is cool.
@mikeschouten47327 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Not sure though why you think only younger buyers want AirPlay functionality. It's not like older buyers are asking for 8-track players (and they're buying a ton of Hondas).
@prestconsulting7 жыл бұрын
We've got the 6-speed MT in the Sport Touring trim in Canada.
@Steven-uy5cz6 жыл бұрын
i wanna know what needs to be done to have the car be able to come over to california
@sveddish5 жыл бұрын
They probably have it in manual in Europe too. I thought there was supposed to be a free market in USA?
@ryankelly18465 жыл бұрын
@@sveddish they have it in the US now
@allysmakeupchannel66504 жыл бұрын
I love my Honda Civic 2017, it’s like a Mercedes to me. It rides like a dream 💜
@NotKenBlock946 жыл бұрын
Welp, i'm definitely sold on it. Seems like it could be a huge upgrade from my little old Impreza
@planetfabulous58337 жыл бұрын
You go girl - you're working that drone!
@SINGH-ing6 жыл бұрын
LOL in Canada, Touring can be paired with a Manual but downside is Sonic Grey Pearl is only available at Touring trim.
@sxb0805116 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thanks. Test drove Sport (same engine/power but less goodies), could not find Sport Touring at many dealerships, many of them not even familiar with this. Not sure why Honda is not putting more out there.
@moparman50584 жыл бұрын
Neverreally cared for Honda but these 2016 and up Covics are really beautiful especially these sport hatches.
@IHiggs7 жыл бұрын
Wheres the dougscore
@williamlewis27527 жыл бұрын
VK07 Just came here from watching a Doug marathon:)
@sadfoohours98837 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reviews sofyan theyre really informative and i enjoy them alot :D . i actually have a few questions about the sport touring since im planning on buying one. So since this is the top of the line model does it come with a phone charging pad as well? or does it vary on some sport tourings only? also how does the sport touring feel compared to the sport you tested previously power wise?
@BrodyDHaptism4 жыл бұрын
Today I watched this exactly car at 19,990 with 12k miles, do you think is a good deal? Should I go for it?
@ExtremeWassabi6 жыл бұрын
I have an 09 Honda civic and I was almost 100% sure I was ready to move from the civic platform (too small, shitty ac, etc) but this thing is just drop dead sexy! Unfortunately it seems like the trunk is way smaller... The trunk in my 09 civic 4 door sedan looks much bigger!
@ThePhilosophus6 жыл бұрын
That's a buzzy engine. I was thinking of buying the Sport Touring, but I am not so excited about it after hearing that engine. I'll be looking into the EX-T or the EX.
@ReDiiKuLuS7 жыл бұрын
I own a 16 EX-T and I have to agree with you, I would've absolutely loved to see a dual clutch with the the 1.5L turbo, it's a shame that the transmission holds the car back so much
@mysticshadow4257 жыл бұрын
Andrew DeLorenzo holds back what? the mean 1.5 turbo engine 😂😂
@ReDiiKuLuS7 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey P The turbo engine is capable of V6 levels of torque and HP close to V6 levels. The CVT is holding the engine back drastically in some circumstances
@bokkey457 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? 174 horsepower and 162 lb-ft of torque is nowhere near V6 levels.
@ReDiiKuLuS7 жыл бұрын
Tuned the transmission is capable of V6 levels of torque, and near V6 levels of HP. Never said stock, anything to even get close would quite obviously require a tune
@alansmilealot7 жыл бұрын
bokkey45 he meant 90s v6
@cwbetb7 жыл бұрын
very happy with my st hatch! Honda has a winner!
@BanksyTube7 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual man!!!!
@ArmyOfArmagedon7 жыл бұрын
Poor US, I got my Sport Touring Hatch manual, they're available in Canada!
@A_guan7 жыл бұрын
Patrick E. Duguay you are so lucky! I have to deal with this cvt but its not as bad as I anticipated it to be
@hondamanvtec28947 жыл бұрын
Pat you aint got the money to buy a automatic 👎
@BelieveInSenpai7 жыл бұрын
Fakk and you’re probably to stupid to drive a automatic
@tmmurphy7 жыл бұрын
They say we don't want the manual here. They say we're too lazy. However when American enthusiasts look for a manual they are only available on the "budget" model with zero features. Most of the time there are none on the lot and you have to buy it sight unseen without the benefit of a test drive. When no one buys the poverty model with a manual it is a self fulfilling prophecy.
@DogTrekker6 жыл бұрын
The CVT is faster. But, to each his own.
@anothercanadian13366 жыл бұрын
You can get the sport touring in a 6 speed manual as well ***^^*
@amggaming35287 жыл бұрын
In Canada, you can get this with a manual.
@pbentsonable5 жыл бұрын
On the top trim for the hatch it should have a power hatch. Hate the lanewatch! It was cute for bout 10 mins. Traditional blind spot is a million times more helpful.
@alecen4488993 жыл бұрын
Looking to upgrade my car & this review has me considering this car.
@johnnypapa47543 жыл бұрын
Did you get it?
@Mannymak5 ай бұрын
Did you get it?
@ducklingphallus5 ай бұрын
Damn, bro died 💀
@dannielz66 жыл бұрын
This car is untouchable
@thisamerican43376 жыл бұрын
If the days of putting in multiple speakers would stop and maybe companies do like a subwoofer or 2 even if it's a 10 or 8 inch. Would certainly help the sound quality of any vehicle for the low frequencies of any type of music,
@ELPJM095 жыл бұрын
My sister is looking into buying a Honda Civic but I’m skeptical. I honestly trust a Toyota Corolla over a Honda. I’ve heard nothing but bad things about new Honda’s, especially their turbos. They have also fallen from top reliabilty lists. They use to be head to head with Toyota. I’m going to convinced her to buy a Toyota.
@danp83096 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t this color available on the SI??!! It looks great!
@joeguzman87837 жыл бұрын
back in 06 in the new body style the biggest disappointment (besides had to replace the motor by honda after just 3 months)was the front suspension was very bouncy like a basketball it felt very light .
@hungrypanda75 жыл бұрын
Just got the sport touring. One thing that's sad about the hatchback is the main console. It's not entirely touchscreen like the civic sedan touring.
@ilektran7 жыл бұрын
Great reviews. I had a couple of questions though. I noticed your review of the exterior seemed a little critical of the HBs body lines compared to the more glowing review of the Type-R even though the Type-R is based on the HB platform. Did your preference change simply due to all the venting and large spoiler on the Type-R? Over-all how would you compare the HB Sport Touring to the Type-R as far as handling when the Type-R is in Sport or Comfort mode. Clearly there is a power difference, but does it feel like a completely different vehicle or does the Sport Touring feel more like a subdued Type-R?
@joeguzman87837 жыл бұрын
i got a new model back in 06 (the new( body style)and i have 2 friends that got the same back then you had to wait in line to get them and all 3 of us civics broke down from engine to transmission (honda replace them but i sold mine rightoway)ones a car flips me the finger I'll never go back ,so i got Toyotas after that and it's been a good relationship and im getting a 2018 toyota corolla.
@clintonbartek14137 жыл бұрын
The manual also points out that the hatchback volume slider is only a button. Super weird, I thought mine was broken till I compared the manual from a sedan to my hatch.
@firehouse7136 жыл бұрын
I almost considered this car but, I'm glad I got the Elantra GT sport. More horsepower, torque, equipment better warranty.
@JustAYouTuber19916 жыл бұрын
Thanks GOD they added a volume knob for 2019. Now I can buy the Civic.
@jinwooahn85056 жыл бұрын
between Camry and this one, which do you recommend for college student?? Thank you!
@Martial1665 жыл бұрын
Just bought! Best car ever
@joshs56467 жыл бұрын
I saw a 2018 Civic Sport Touring hatch with Lane Watch, so they have it.
@moshariff63207 жыл бұрын
Hey sofyan, why are all your recent thumbnails very stretched out? It might just be me but just wanted to make sure.
@bobwhite267 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you're going to review the 2018 Fit Sport.
@staceO277 жыл бұрын
i like the black accent trim
@louisv77955 жыл бұрын
What's the direct injection that is causing the ticking please (sounds like it needs a valve job from days of old)? Also, The exhaust sounds pretty good, I am buying a used 2017 now, so what do you think about changing it out to an axle back exhaust from Borla, or do you think it won't make any difference? Thank you?
@devans95137 жыл бұрын
this is going to be my next vehicle
@alexgonzalescasting44696 жыл бұрын
can you go back and forth on fueling it with premium and regular?
@MaxBorker6 жыл бұрын
Wish the rear was more vertical. The blindspots look enormous.
@longmaga197 жыл бұрын
He should've used the silver or white hatchback for this video. Those two colors look sportier.
@ffampire7 жыл бұрын
Imho, Honda would have been better off incorporating a hatch on the sedan body. It has enough of a fastback to pull that off. It would have also saved Honda so much money, by not having to produce a completely different style. If Buick/Opel can do it with the Regal, Honda easily could have made it work with the Civic sedan. The Coupe also for that matter. I personally do not like the rear 1/4 window cutline or the plastic in that area. Not to mention the fake vents on each side of the rear, that were also used in the Si sedan. I would buy a Mazda 3 over the Civic hatch just based on style alone.
@smoke4ndmears7 жыл бұрын
Shame about the CVT only -I think this feature level is available in the UK with the manual.
@kaceydillin73676 жыл бұрын
I love and want this. Why can't we get touring model with manual transmission? Manuals NEED Love Too!!
@dirtaylulu5 жыл бұрын
Everywhere but the US you can get the Sport Touring with 6MT, too bad most consumers in USA won't buy manual transmissions anymore so a lot of manufacturers don't make them an option.
@fl12897 жыл бұрын
The volume button does not have touch control on hatchback, only sedan and coupes. Source: Honda Product Specialist
@27Zangle7 жыл бұрын
Really want to like this car and will be in market next year. However that front and rear end lower bumper is horrendous. Waiting for refresh already or may just skip this generation all together.
@williedee50516 ай бұрын
I just got a use 2017 civic sports touring and they made out of paper the hole body man!