2017 Honda CR-V - Redline: Review

[@MrWmburr7]

Just purchased the 2017 touring model a couple months ago. It's everything I thought it would be and more. I was in a very violent collision with my Honda Element last year (activated driver's airbag AND side curtain airbags) and came through without a scratch! I figured a company that made a vehicle with protection like that, deserved some more of my business. Thank you, Honda.

[@kevinj9315]

William Burr I’m currently in the market for the 2018 touring model. How was your experience with ownership over the last few months?

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Help Company USD SGD

[@drivetime1488]

I sold my 2015 Audi A3 cabriolet and got a 2017 CRV. My experience: crv gave me PEACE OF MIND. I miss only the convertible top and a litle bit the Bang and Olufsen sound. The interiors ARE very Good. Turning in curvy roads is surprisingly good!! Had civic Si and this mom grocery getter mall rated ute DOES the job! Of course is not a blast to drive. But don't disappoint. Nice in long trips, nice in backroads, nice all round commuter. I'd rather buy a second fun car and keep this Does it all and does it good instead of a having a different car . I love this suv.

[@jamslam5641]

Wow, 18 years ago we bought home a brand new 1998 Honda CR-V.... how it has changed. It didn't even come with standard cassette player. Now it's like near luxury amenities. One thing our 1998 CR-V had that 2017 doesn't have is a built in picnic table.

[@braxmed]

I actually used that more than once!

[@ThatWasherNerd]

We used to have a 2001 C-RV (same generation). We loved it, the built it picnic table was incredible! Sadly, it got totaled when a drunk driver slammed into us.

[@calvincruz1623]

Jam Slam our CRV is a 2001 model and we never used the picnic table idk why but I like the new one

[@Codecorrupter]

The iconic picnic table, maybe they'll bring it back someday

[@danilosanmi]

the best review for a honda crv so far

[@JimmyTheMachine]

Dany San Miguel except he says "uh" every other word.

[@yalibai1338]

Jim Marchant

[@loveyouhatemeloveus7]

Yali Bai M

[@luckystar5432]

Dany San Miguel

[@sharonmontanez9411]

Dany San Miguel

[@MrHav1k]

Luxury cars make less and less sense everyday with the mainstream brands starting to step up.

[@fakedazzleful]

TheHvk that's what i said. Back then to get leather and memory seat or dual climate control. You would need to get a luxury car. But now even Corolla and honda have them. Heck, Elantra give you rear vent heated seat.

[@apt62]

Fequi Simon problem is back in the days 325 used to be 30k now touring crv cost merely 33k

[@fakedazzleful]

Wade H I can understand prices going up beccause technology advances quick.

[@mustafawali4488]

+TheHvk That's because car manufacturers are running out of ideas for features to improve the Luxury brands, and mainstream brands have caught up.

[@fakedazzleful]

M Wali True that. I'm surprised Toyota still making Avalon since feature wise there's not really much differential from tech wise

[@klasseact6663]

I'm really liking your videos, let me say that right off here. Your style is straight forward and no nonsense, I appreciate that. I can also tell your a car guy as well, keep up the good work and I'm staying subscribed! Now about this SUV...Honda is on a roll! They remind me of what Mazda started doing a couple years ago and that is fresh, beautiful designs and in Honda's case, fun to drive, what a concept! I bet when they redo their minivan, it too will be really nice!

[@theredline]

We always love being as honest as possible in every review we do. Glad you enjoy it! A new Odyssey is right around the corner, Honda should be showing something in Detroit, most likely.

[@quanronghu4900]

Redline Reviews what's next after tuning nob? Bro

[@mattbielenberg]

Any update on when the new Accord redesign will be unveiled?

[@tyjohn2378]

The longest review Honda CR-V I never seen Nice car I look forward to see at dealerships

[@rborroto]

Given your limited access to this vehicle, you still pulled off a good review. Thanks for posting what amounts to the ONLY real review of the 2017 CR-V on KZbin so far.

[@JohnnyUkeOfficial]

I'm considering getting this. Looks like Honda has really improved this. Love the way it looks now. Past generations were just too frumpy looking. Has nice engine options, better interior materials and more power.

[@strykers23]

Bought this car in 2017. I can’t believe how extremely reliable it is. I’ve taken this vehicle to Colorado twice and Las Vegas once from Dallas. Currently has 111k miles on it and runs very smoothly and over 34.5 mpg. Had no issues whatsoever. Very very dependable vehicle.

[@donnieaugustine8176]

Honda has really stepped up their game in terms of design.

[@brandondannys-menary3678]

Donnie Augustine not really.. It's big, bulky, and awkward. The Mazda is the best hands down

[@wtpiv6041]

Just wanted to add that I love how when you criticize you offer constructive criticism and mention how to improve on the faults.

[@thehondasteve2292]

This CR-V is certainly dominating the airwaves at the moment - and rightfully so. Great video - you really pointed out the crucial features of this terrific SUV.

[@bipinsebastian1705]

I'm an owner of a 2016 civic...the brake hold button, push and pull handbrake button,touch sensitive volume button,google play option,LCD screens back up camera etc are some of the most convenient features available...plus this CR-V interior resembles a lot like the civic 2016 interior.....it's futuristic...totally!!

[@dcharizard91]

I feel like Honda puts more effort in Honda models rather than Acura models...the tech is better and styling is more interesting in Honda over Acura. Honda even made Jewel LED headlights available which is good for Honda but bad for Acura.

[@PuffinDragun69]

Well, with respect Acuras are mainly sold in America, where as Hondas are sold all over the world. Hondas are more important to the conglomerate than a brand that is only available to 1 country.

[@Kanti12311]

There’s no Acura here in Japan, it’s all Honda. I’m driving Honda integra right now lol

[@MelloHubb]

All acuras are hondas overseas for the most part.

[@raymondbillups2002]

I agree! I remember having a Honda legend and was confused at first when I came back and noticed it was an Acura.

[@AtomSimbol]

IKR I feel like Acura biggest competition is Honda itself.

[@stevieg3078]

I have watched dozens & dozens of car reviews. You are hands down the best. In fact I am disappointed when there is a car i want to review and you haven't driven it! Thanks!

[@HondaProJason]

Great review, I'm loving the new CR-V style and the new tech. I'm so interested in how the Drivers alert system works.

[@waynewilliams1487]

HondaPro Jason i was curious about that too. It munitors how often it you drive over the lines. Nit monitors your driving and not you per se. It doesnt know if yourneyes are closed. Im more interested in the traffic sign reader tech

[@mikechavez109]

I love your reviews, your the main reason I bought my 2014 Fiesta ST, 44,000 miles and going strong 💪🏼 keep up the great work. Fiesta Flash. ⚡️

[@andyrockerable]

This new touring crv has more premium features than my 2017 Acura RDX. Acura really has to step up its game

[@coffeeblak86]

Andy Kitusa it's now a marketing scheme. lol.

[@tungol00]

Andy Kitusa But I still prefer the v6 in the rdx.

[@rowsdower12]

Andy Kitusa cause acuras are warmed over luxed up Hondas. But also consider a lot of mainstream cars are getting luxury items. Even the civic, elantra, Mazda3 and alike. proliferation of technology. that's what customers want

[@Toyota4Life]

Why did you buy a RDX in the first place... wasted money

[@andyrockerable]

Average that's very true. The suspension and engine are much better

[@yuprulesing]

Amazing review, definitely the best review of the new 2017 Honda CR-V so far! CORRECTION: Panoramic sunroof for the Honda CR-V 2017 is available EXCLUSIVELY to Canada!!!

[@isaacfox732]

I can barely focus on the car because of all the beautiful scenery.

[@isaacfox732]

***** meh it's not that bad.

[@CheemedCrease]

Marin County! My home-- this is right around Mt. Tamalpais

[@CumBrianFries]

+Chase Wray Are you sure it's Marin County? This looks more like somewhere south of San Francisco, perhaps in San Mateo county?

[@badcyclist]

The video was shot south of SF. The map in the car shows him driving on Old La Honda Road.

[@agm6095]

He said he was in Monterey.

[@Rodrigo-tk2fm]

I just bought a 2016 for my dad, he loved it I feel so proud of this purchase

[@StevenMI89]

its either this or the '17 mazda cx-5 which is GORGEOUS

[@randomstuff-p5m]

spartyon89 Cx-5. this one doesn't look like it will age well, design is not very appealing

[@JP-er1on]

spartyon89 This CRV it has more features for the money and is all new while the cx5 only got little changes.

[@IceieiDisk]

spartyon89 Honda will hold value better plus reliability but the Mazda does look nice

[@quanronghu4900]

spartyon89 go with Honda

[@tyjohn2378]

spartyon89 Same here Touch choice for me too I like CX5 interiors and rear tail lights. But front not so much . CR -V I like front look but rear not so much, crv have more room and very reliable car too. So I'm still debating Please give me your opinion Thanks

[@Knights2theEnd]

I have a 2012 CRV since new. Has 60K. Have only replaced fluids (engine oil every 3k and transmission oil at 40k) and battery (55k). That's it. Love it. Only negatives, which are laughable, are the trunk doesn't raise high enough (if you're above 5'10" you'll constantly hit your head), you'll scratch the door with your foot when getting out (no matter where you sit), vinyl seats get uncomfortable after 2hours of straight driving.

[@fordfocusperson]

Rav4: 6 Speed Auto, 360 degree camera, Drivers Assistance Tech (Standard On All models) CR-V: Android Auto/Apple Carplay, Turbo, USB charging ports

[@fordfocusperson]

jasen ratnam pretty much so.

[@davidhastings2603]

Redline your Reviews are for Me ...The Absolute Best !

[@sfludd]

Great job on the review! I'm the market right now and glad to see Honda updating the CR-V. This is just the segment I'm investigating; compact crossovers. I've test driven more than half a dozen vehicles so far, so I'll add this one to the list when it becomes available. Love the styling, utility, and updated interior. The 1.5t I think is appropriate for the segment as well; average offering and power, give or take. Totally agreed with you on the comment about torque! Hondas just don't usually have any, lol...Can't wait to test it out! Thanks!

[@ciron28trains]

I've watched alot of other reviews and yours are by far the most detailed and best. Keep it up sir.

[@alexdaley3997]

" it looks like an octopus to me" i died.

[@robbiehernandez8019]

My Aunt has the third gen CRV she loves it but it's getting high in miles, and she wants something different. She disliked the exterior styling of the fourth generation, so I showed her this one and she's in love with it. I think this is the best looking CRV yet.

[@mikec1655]

The front is a civic, rear is a Volvo XC90 with escalade turn signals. It's ok.

[@NiharM77]

The rear looks more Renault Espace to me.

[@cybertroy2]

the rear looks like shit

[@mikec1655]

cybertroy2 it looks better than the previous model lol

[@L4zlo]

my thoughts too, lol.

[@agencialt9633]

and the body looks a bit like the current 4th generation crv.. just wider.

[@mmartel]

Impressive review. You cover a ton of details, which is appreciated by potential buyers like me.

[@Summon-Zero]

When the CRV looks more truck-like than the Ridgeline

[@Agent77X]

Minivan like!

[@5.7_TY]

The back resembles the Honda pilot to me in some way

[@althompson1550]

Ashton

[@althompson1550]

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[@Sena-co1ug]

It drives more truck-like as well than the Ridgeline.

[@martinscott2223]

Very nice car Excellent review. You know your stuff!!! Sofyan is the best auto analyst I've seen anywhere.

[@EricBadong]

Love cars, but I enjoyed the view at the beach more than looking at the CR-V.

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Easy to do when you fly over the cliff, Holy FK. California usually overprotects their people but no guardrails there.

[@RB2G100]

I’m surprised on how many people don’t know of the oil dilution problem these new CR-Vs are having. Good job Honda on covering up this huge problem!

[@user-xf5dj1up8g]

The Canadian model gets a Panoramic sunroof, Heated rear seats, and a Heated steering wheel :(

[@nicksuniqueusername4484]

Your videos are actually enjoyable to watch man. Nice work!

[@amithrc3026]

I bought this car on Monday, really nice and comfortable to drive.

[@nanaantwi8404]

Hows it holding up??

[@kristelacortez]

Thanks for the review, I Just brought my 2017 CRV home, all of the safety features, comfort, interior size, and quiet ride will really be helpful once my husband is able to come home from the hospital. He was just hit by a large vehicle while riding his Harley, and sustained a major TBI... it will be at least a year before he can even try driving again, but the accessibility, and technology in this vehicle should make that process much easier!

[@SenthilNattamaiSekar]

Kristela Sprouse hello , I am planning to buy EXL AWD one question on the mpg is it matching the estimated mpg ? I see some of the reviews mentions that the car didn't match the estimated mpg.

[@htyyc]

Always watch all your reviews! Could you guys start adding a portion the reviews specifically talking about highway driving with the economic cars you review. Mainly in regards to the vehicles ability to pass on the highways. This is always my main concern with the lower powered vehicles. Especially here in western Canada, alot of road trips here involve single lane 2 way roads and lots of hills and you really need a good motor and gearing to pass with out a long stretch to reach some speed.

[@Danny-d]

I'm actually thinking about purchasing this car.. I almost went with Hyundai but I see I get more for my money with this minus the cooled seats and heated steering wheel.. thank you. Keep up the good work

[@philippluklas]

How have these been holding up? I can’t believe the combination of the CVT and 1.5 offers great longevity. Interested to buy a compact or midsize that will last 200k miles without problems

[@bluepil123]

Great overall review with actual driving over winding road Thank you, Rich,

[@mcximus]

I like the new look. Dual exhaust makes the CRV looks more sporty.

[@elgreeko6241]

Looks great

[@smatz10]

I just bought this car but the LE version, not the Touring... I am in LOVE with it. I love the edgy, stylish look! Without the Honda logo, the car looks even more expensive than it is. I know people with the older car and what an upgrade this is! I love it!

[@smatz10]

Thats what I meant haha :)

[@YungCwalk]

My parents bought me 2003 CRV for my first car and its fun great for taking my friends out and smoking pounds of weed

[@BernonCars]

Pounds... you must be plastered!

[@DRJGD666]

I have a 2001 CRV, accurate. One of the best 1st cars and they last forever.

[@DRJGD666]

НАТО в шоке, США обосрались Nice! All I want is a used 80's Camaro and a nice Porsche.

[@DrinkmoWater.]

That's beautiful ... a session with the homies in a Honda lmfao -litlife

[@CKPHH]

Cwalk my fkin nigga

[@georgiaguardian4696]

What a great review for the brand new CR-V. I currently own a previous gen Honda CR-V 2012. I bought it immediately when it came out. It might be a good time to upgrade.

[@todor92]

I still think that Honda should put bigger & more powerful engine on these CR-V models.

[@CuocsongCaliforniaUsa-tb5os]

2.5 L turbocharged will be nice

[@colindeeks6933]

Thanks for another great, comprehensive review. Definitely my go to source for reviews!

[@amacl10]

Wow. The CR-V is going to be his first 1M+ video

[@RBzee112]

1.3M views now.

[@dontbotherreading]

One thing I hated about all the previous models was the back. Now they finally changed it and I would actually get one

[@MichaelNNguyen]

The car looks good but the rims are horrendous.

[@mayankswank6020]

Honda has very brilliantly merged this "Active Solid Motion" concept design in all of their models. I just love All New Honda. Owning Brv 2016 & Civic 2016 still want to have this new sibbling of them.

[@DriveAndBeDriven]

Great review! I cannot wait until you can get a lower end trim of the CRV and possibly compare to the other competitors, in a long term run/review! Keep up the impeccable work! -DriveAndBeDriven "The Quest To Record The Best!"

[@johnnyprofits3477]

Can’t believe I sat through this entire video lol. Good job.

[@jdmboy7910]

A very appealing SUV. Honda have done a great job with the new CRV.

[@The099az]

it looks more like Acura made a new suv and called it honda

[@5.7_TY]

They are the same company

[@The099az]

i know

[@MoNoK15]

I own a 2018 CR-V LX and it’s super outstandingly flawless 🤗

[@SNESmapper]

This new CRV looks really nice, I'm impressed with all the features. Ball is in your court Toyota, let's see what you got in store for the next gen RAV4 in 2018

[@Civicowner2025]

So I know this video is when this CRV came out but I bought mine in July of 2022 (2017 CRV touring) and the driver attention monitor definitely works.., I was driving back home which is a 2.5 to 3 hour drive from my moms to home and it alerted me.

[@chiparooo]

Very comprehensive. Nice job. Very informative.

[@rockoprior9470]

chiparooo liking this comment just because of the profile pic

[@richbf2]

Thank you Honda for bringing back the straight exhaust; even better dual exhaust. Way to go H!

[@spencerlopes1482]

thank you, thank you honda for prioritizing styling that was a major reason why i wouldnt buy a 2016 crv but this 2017 looks really stylish and this is THE CAR i would buy new over any other vehicle in the market

[@TrainerAQ]

I have a 98 CR-V which I have installed aftermarket wheels and fog lights and it has been very friendly to me! I love it!

[@amill1563]

Honda has a winner.

[@amill1563]

Sof, I would love it if at the end your tag line was "catch you all at the Redline"

[@islandcookingwithdenise]

best looking CR-V to date in my humble opinion 😎

[@ScooterBlia2]

Would've been nice to have the 2.0 in the CR-V. Simplicity doesn't always have to come with less power. Sometimes simplicity can be preferred.

[@emmanuelolivoalmanzar9208]

The most beautiful CRV made. The other one is 2005-2006 year looks really good. Crv very affordable and quality.

[@chigasaki06]

I like that Honda seems to be getting more consistent. It's know it's not a big deal, but I hate when manufacturers mix L.E.D with non L.E.D front and taillights. If you're gonna offer it on higher trim levels, just have the entire set L.E.D. It bothers me when L.E.D lights are mixed with non-L.E.D's. It looks off to me.

[@dianeczmowski4738]

m. m ml ml

[@71vwdriver]

Don't really like the new design inside or out but I really appreciate how much more premium it has become. The inside has such higher quality materials, and a more significant exterior.

[@TankeShashou]

man if they added the 2.0 T into this thing for the 2019 version it would be pretty nice.

[@guazarasur]

The best review ever see for me, great job Sofyan, the camera, the illumination, the colors, all HD, the ONLY is speak a little bit fast, but is ok. ^^ Super....!!!!

[@Thenevisian]

I love it, but why all the black empty space on the center screen?

[@sergeyyevtukh388]

Michael Henville yeh, looks like Honda budgeting didn't allow for 9-10 inch screen at this year model to compete with BMW, only enough money to bring the volume nub, he-he ;-),. I'll wait for a diesel Mazda CX-5, unless Honda leaked out the heated steering wheel and 9" screen for 2018 upgrade ...common Honda you can do a bigger/better screen for sure or WV will...

[@Thenevisian]

Exactly

[@adamallen9649]

For those Canadian viewers, in the touring trim there is Canadian exclusive features that the American version does not have. Canadian models have a heated steering wheel, a panoramic sunroof, and rear heated seats

[@chibiwizard]

To me the interior looks more upscale than the RDX, they really need to step up Acura. Also, I still don't get why they give the Hondas dual-exhaust tips, but not the Acuras (aside from the NSX, sorta)

[@ArseneLupin786]

Honestly, given the other competitors of CR-V, even there there is no reason to chose an RDX except for it's v6 engine and premium looking exterior. Inside is a disaster. They could've improved the dual-screen functionality but it screams 2012.

[@Paulog1990]

pochoun33137 I agree. The only thing is the TLX offers SH-AWD. If Honda offered the accord in AWD even on the top touring trim only they would easily outsell all their competition. The only family sedan in it's class that offers awd is the fusion. And fully loaded it cost 37K. If Honda sold a touring AWD accord for 36K I would run to the store and get one.

[@bonnhew]

My TL-s has quad exhaust tips

[@Team118118]

Just noticed at 10:38 you stated that Honda does not offer a big panoramic sunroof, the touring model does offer that. Great review...thanks

[@BESTNOODLEREVIEWS]

No way, Honda brought back the volume knob lol

[@Revo2Evo]

Tuning knob by 2019 lol.

[@MJT-DA]

Ben G and picnic table from 1998 crv in 2030 crv XD

[@MJT-DA]

Ben G lol

[@bobbowie9350]

This is a home run for Honda.

[@Theanhdy]

How come the Canadian version gets panoramic moonroof and USA doesn't?

[@stendecstretcher5678]

Excellent review as usual. Will be trading in our current CRV when the new model arrives in Australia.

[@tommieboi707]

Honda should throw the v6 in there. Give it some balls

[@matt4398]

tommieboi707 it's a women's car, they don't want no v6

[@tommieboi707]

Anonymous they want balls tho! did that come out right?

[@victoralmonte1694]

tommieboi707 like Toyota did with the rav4 before

[@omgitsme435]

One could only wish. In fact, the thought of losing the V6 Accord is already scary. A 1.5 Turbo hauling around 3500 lbs just doesn't sound as appealing as the 278HP in a V6 with normal gears.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

It's called the RDX.

[@danmurphy1994]

This has to be my favorite channel at this point lol addicting videos great presentation

[@CARBONHAWK1]

looking at this, I'm afraid how the next gen accord will look like.

[@ardie4]

A car that has come a long way. Great review.

[@DimachkaS]

I like everything EXCEPT those awful rims

[@JC-rm6pm]

DimachkaS and the CVT instead of a 8 speed auto or something better

[@anthonymolina7416]

JC4 is not a bad cvt unlike the Nissan 2013 cvt

[@winomaster]

What a joke. As if those wheels were the heart of the styling problems with this car. No one in America is going in to be buying this car for the styling. The reviewer should just skip over the entire subject.

[@Piketom1]

I've had my 2018 touring for about a month. It is a truly amazing car for daily driving.,

[@jobber1984]

this is going to sell well

[@DripExplains]

My wife is buying this next year around feb. 34k with AWD is an excellent bargain. Great review!!!!

[@chrgav1286]

ForeignBorn Patriot Don't tell me that you pay MSRP on vehicles you buy?

[@DripExplains]

Chr Gav hell no, not even invoice price

[@chrgav1286]

ForeignBorn Patriot But you just said " 34k is an Excellent bargain". That doesn't make sense.

[@DripExplains]

Bargain because I can knock that down even further. To start at 34k for Touring is making my negotiating skills easier.

[@chrgav1286]

ForeignBorn Patriot Bargain - a thing bought or offered for sale more cheaply than is usual or expected. Meaning to me that you agree to the $34k pricing(MSRP). $27k price on a car that was $34k MSRP is an "excellent bargain". I guess wrong wording? Nonetheless, CR-V is a nice looking car with nice features.

[@chrisw7188]

finally............. a volume knob :D

[@michaelfurey4018]

Great review! I just bought an off-lease Touring, but I agree with you on the wheels; I prefer the EX-L wheels. All that extra chrome and the faux wood aren't my favorite, either, but the entire package is nicely designed. Tip for Touring owners with the kick-motion-activated: if installing a tow hitch for bike racks, etc, the sensor will have to be moved, so carefully consider who installs it for you. I've always driven a manual, so the CVT messes with my brain. WHERE ARE THE GEARS??? (I know the answer)

[@ScaredAnnie]

From the audio, the car sounds very noisy. A friend who bought one confirms that it is indeed noisy. For me, that in itself would justify buying a luxury brand. Most people don't seem to care -- little attention is paid to noise level in most car reviews. Opinions from buyers?

[@gerardpritchard657]

I love my 2009 CR-V... great review of the gorgeous new one!

[@gmman010983]

The seats looks similar to the Cadillac CT6 seats as far as design.

[@williamsalam8018]

This video deserve a like for every viewer

[@madpistol]

Standout Feature: Volume knob.

[@abdullahwraikat4058]

Mad Pistol 😂

[@Paulog1990]

My wife and I have had a 2012 and 2016 CRV which we have loved. Great to take the dog around in and take long trips in. Also decent AWD in the snow. Not a Subaru but does the job. We have also upgraded the trim each time. Hopefully our next one we can get this touring model. The tech has def improved in 5 years. My only gripe is the gas tank size. It's a bit small. I would like another 2-3 more gallons. Our current CRV fills with about 13 gallons. So you have to fill up a little sooner than my accord which holds 17 gallons. Also not a fan of the wheels on this car.

[@MrCarGuy]

Paulog1990 Had a 2012 CR-V and it was a POS.... big time.

[@Paulog1990]

MrCarGuy20 POS in what way? Mechanical? Appearance?

[@therealpickleahoy]

Drinking game challenge: Take a shot every time he says "now" in the beginning of a sentence. Get ready to get shitfaced.

[@Paddlerunner]

Really enjoy your reviews. One thing that would be nice, and I'm sure I'm far from the first to say this, is if you could start reviewing more base level to mid-level trim packages. Although you do a good job of describing the differences verbally, I think a lot of buyers (certainly myself included) would benefit from seeing how those packages look and feel. I'm sure there's good reason -- from the manufacturers' standpoint -- that you always wind up in the premium trims, but from a consumer standpoint stepping it down a notch would be beneficial. Thanks

[@PoserGalore]

Everything is great but the engine.