2017 Mazda CX-5 vs 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan Comparison Review

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Compares interiors, practicality, price, and driving of the Volkswagen Tiguan vs Mazda CX-5.
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[@szymonchalupka]

If I were only using my eyes to choose one I would definitely go for CX-5 as it looks so good both when it comes to exterior and interior. But I test drove both and now I have Tiguan 2.0 TSI in my garage. I love this car in every aspect! It is practical, comfortable, it is perfect family (2+1) car and a fun to drive in the same time. It is of course white with the R-Line package.

[@chasingcars]

A white Tiguan R-Line is a great looking car

[@m18gjw]

Really enjoy watching your reviews, keep up the good work! We ended up going with the CX-5 and are really enjoying it

[@chasingcars]

+Gary Williams Thanks for the support Gary. Great purchase. Glad you're loving the CX-5.

[@johnnyb1955]

Greetings from Ireland. This is my first time to view your channel and Tom delivers a clear, objective and professional review. Well filmed too so top marks all round.

[@chasingcars]

Thanks John!

[@richardhope255]

Hi Tom nice balanced review. Exactly the two car comparison I've been looking for. Thanks.

[@chasingcars]

Glad you found it helpful Richard.

[@mazdar100]

Well done for pointing out important selection criteria such as seat comfort and interior noise. I notice this is common in your reviews. Many others can learn a thing or two from your delivery. Well done..

[@chasingcars]

+Caine da Fonseca Thanks a lot. Glad you're finding our videos helpful.

[@ateja2004]

Following points were not covered as part of Akera, which significantly distinguish mazda cx5 from others. 1. HUD display: Its so nice and simple. Blindspot information is not only displayed on the mirrors, but shows on the display as well. 2. Memory Seats: You can save the drivers seat position in memory, but it can as well be set to key. when some one opens door using that key, the seats are automatically adjusted to the number. 3. Diesel Engine: Its turbo engine. But best thing, once you have reached the acceleration 0-100/110 kmph, the revs are under 2000. This coupled with perfect insulation, we hardly hear any noise on a level freeway. Not sure, about petrol car, i have not driven one. 4. Bose Audio System: Adjust the bass and treble setting along with bose audio pilot and you feel like you are in a movie theater. 5. Lane Assist: Set the setting in "early", the car tries to align the car in the center of the lane. we can feel it on your hands. Its like this, we think car is moving towards the lane, and the moment we think, we should turnleft, the car steering turns left, before you attempt. It looks as though miracle just happened. 6. istop: car stops at signals and starts upon touching acceleration pedal. Best part is its very fast. you hardly discover that it stopped/started. 7. Autohold: push the autohold, once you enter the car. once istop stops the engine, you can remove the feet on the pedal. the car stays as it is. This does not sound great, this is because, i m not good with explaining. This is really good. Drawbacks: 1. No Android Auto, Apple car play. (I would have not used anyways...) 2. traffic updates feature is good, but needs subscription. Not a biggy, as its less than 200 for 3 years. but still you need to pay for it. 3. fuel Consumption is quite high than expected, especially in city. 4. Some settings needs to be turned on/off everytime you step in the car. had they been embedded in the permanent setting option, it would have been better, for example, Autohold/istop. (Did not feel like a big thing to me). 5. Lane Assist in advertisements sounds like this car is an autonomous sort of vehicle. But it isnt. get used to idea that this is lane assist, not autnomous. nevertheless, i loved lane assist as it is.

[@Wasps76]

teja akula you do know every point you bought up is available on the Tiguan

[@TheSumitsetia]

good review mate you have been doing good work for quite a some time now

[@chasingcars]

Thank you very much!

[@muehli02]

please also make more depths reviews with comparing the cruise controls, sound system, running lights etc.

[@kenw1835]

VW of course

[@IvanFak0ff]

VW is for adults, cx-5 is for younger

[@chaowatkittitornkul2264]

Great review, cheers

[@chasingcars]

Thanks a lot.

[@DronieUp]

When you look at the after sales costs the Mazda makes the most sense. The Tiguan has a $1000 service price at the 60,000km service. Mazda’s service costs alternate between $319 and $390.

[@chasingcars]

Good point.

[@kimitaby]

In Sweden, Mazada Sweden offers 10 years factory warranty! It really makes me easy to choose Mazda. Plus Mazda might have better reliability.

[@user-ec9nr9nu8v]

In Japan 7 years MAX, if you keep it that long, they do not make money.haha

[@kimitaby]

You missed a point. Once you drive away from the dealer, you already lost a big amount of money. Buying a car doesn't make you any penny.

[@torontolarrivee7965]

@@kimitaby They're saying that Mazda doesn't make money if people keep the car 7 years and max out the warranty

[@maxt7525]

Fantastic mate been looking at both cars.....helped so much! Will most likely go the Tiguan in the R spec looks great and good package

[@dannyfree1120]

Did you end up going with the Tiguan. How has it been?

[@maximderim]

The CX5 does have the Smart City Brake Support witch works both forward and reverse and that is not the case of the Tiguan, also the GVC system sort of torque vectoring system, i hope you motion that in the test. Good Review ! very direct and informative !.

[@chasingcars]

Great points Maxim. Thanks for your feedback.

[@colinsmith9032]

And no mention of the heads up display in the CX-5. It works well and definitely makes me safer.

[@kapilaidasani3064]

Very good review indeed.....but I am still not able to decide which one to pick. Please help with your opinion. I am basically looking for a petrol as I do 12000 km a year. I like the looks and build quality of Mazda but on the other hand Tiguan seems more practical with sliding back seats...more techy with digital instrument, Android auto,wireless charging...all these features cx5 lacks. And then you don't seem to keen on petrol version of CX5...what would you pick? Also is automatic a good choice for these cars? Thanks

[@brandonpollard8928]

And do I love your reviews because of you.

[@chasingcars]

+Brandon Pollard Oh goodness. I'm blushing.

[@cshaopin]

Loved both cars. In the end I chose Mazda due to better after sales service, better customer relationship, cheaper spare parts and higher resale value. Lived in Malaysia and VW's customer service is really poor and lots of complains, resale value drops at least 50% after just a 2 years of driving, which is a shame because VW makes really good cars.

[@amirfirdaus9419]

PinGuitar how is the cabin sound in the cx-5?

[@coldboltz7390]

PinGuitar but the mazda is quite small right?

[@reggie178965]

nice review, but what about the service cost of both of these cars? Which one would be cheaper to maintain?

[@richardning]

Love the consistency of the style of reviews! But I have noticed it's always raining in that parking lot, is that on purpose to create a certain feel? Lol or are you guys always unlucky with weather during recording?

[@chasingcars]

As much as I'd like to say we're going for a dark and moody style, we've just been quite unlucky on our filming days this year Richard!

[@j0n3s24]

which mazda dealer give the best deal? for cx 5?

[@user-zc9xl2in9h]

A good comparison.

[@chasingcars]

Thanks mate.

[@teunkoerts123]

CX/5 interior looks so much better

[@chasingcars]

+tunkor Yep, it's a great cabin!

[@eug3nius]

@@chasingcars But is it better? I don't think so.

[@DerekTYWu]

What about Honda CR-V Vs. VW Tiguan comparison, can you do that??

[@djoetma]

I like the Tiguan because of the interior. But the downsized VAG engines keep having a terrible reputation in terms of reliability when looking at user reviews.

[@spencoir1]

Depends where you live! I live in Spain and vw tech is better than in the vid. Also the deals are better and the network is stronger so vw for me! However in Japan or Australia probably the Mazda...

[@hermessyndicate7938]

2.0 TDI with a wide torque band and more power vs a 2.2 Diesel with TWIN turbos delivering less power? I'll take the optimized economical one please.

[@MrMazda-ih8cw]

The Tiguan is becoming very popular - especially after the 2018 release - but it falls behind the CX-5 - in my opinion of course!

[@chasingcars]

With a username like Mr Mazda, I expect nothing less!

[@tonywong2728]

Just from the design and outlook, there is no competition, must be CX5 for sure, especially in soul red crystal

[@hemi5.7awdpursuit5]

Tony Wong i got jet black cx5 ordered at Mazda dealership now

[@njcdailo8934]

Lots of hate on the Tiguan. I personally think it looks amazing. Simple and not loud. Cx nice looking too but I think people who like vw look just really into it. To each his own.

[@ccsnax1905]

Good review mate. I think if you compare the diesel I'd prefer the Mazda. Just. If Mazda had android play and a 360 camera, Mazda by a mile. However if you compare the petrol models I think the VW will edge out the Mazda. Will you do a full review on the Akera? If you are can you include the side camera in the review. Keep it up!

[@chasingcars]

Thanks for your comments mate. Yes, the diesel definitely helps the Mazda in this company. We will do a full Akera road test in time so make sure to subscribe. However, I'm not sure we get the side camera here? Ours just had a traditional reversing camera.

[@conan900]

Android play is coming in a software update later this year. So that's one down. Maybe a 360 camera next year. I admit those are nice and I would like to have one in my cx5

[@hemi5.7awdpursuit5]

conan900 😎😎😎😎

[@madrx2]

Both have the pros and cons. Hard to split them, it would be nice if the Akera had the same rear seats!

[@chasingcars]

+madrx2 Yep, it was tough to split these two. That's good, of course, they're both great options to buy in this segment. Agreed that a slightly bigger rear seat in the CX-5 would be a useful addition.

[@madrx2]

Thanks for the response, i'm not used to channels that reply. I'm currently in a pickle. I'm looking for a new small car for my wife. So far We've narrowed it down a little. Astra Rs-v (It's fun to drive, but the interior quality is a little iffy) Subaru Impreza S(Beautiful new updated interior but lack of power) Honda civic Vti LX (Havn't driven it yet) The mazda 3 sp25 astina(which we liked but is just over half way through it's life) The new hyundai I30 SR. (Havn't driven or seen it yet) . What would you guys choose? Keep up the good work :D And thanks!

[@madrx2]

Thanks! :)

[@mahu142]

I'd say it vice versa: VWs diesel engines are better than mazdas in terms of reliability, fuel consumprion and responsiveness. Mazdas diesel offer a lot of power, are quieter and are more clean. While on the petrol side, VWs petrol engines only shine on official datasheets. The power delivery is uneven because of turbolag and in the real world, they consume more fuel and are less reliable (got 2 broken turbochargers on my 2013 Audi A3). While Mazda is offering refined non aspirated petrols with real world fuel consumption as advertised.

[@Roadjull]

Odd you should say that about the VW petrol engines. The 2.0 T is a workhorse, highly praised in both the GTI and the Tiguan 162. Actually I have yet to see a review criticizing this engine.

[@chasingcars]

Hmm… we've independently owned a VW product with a TSI engine as a company car for a number of years and haven't had any engine issues, but no doubt no powertrain has a perfect reliability record.

[@mahu142]

there are at least in europe 1.4T engines available in Tiguan and golf. The turbo is just another point of failure imo

[@rabity]

Test drove both. Mazda has a lil better quality in interior but got the tiger-iguana :D

[@chasingcars]

Hope you're enjoying it!

[@norbar1969]

As mark williams said, like your reviews , keep em coming.

[@chasingcars]

Thanks a lot Markus.

[@dheeradjlachman9658]

Mazda is the best!!

[@d.j.z.j]

I got 2017 r.. hope I made the right choice:)

[@Guvb235]

Dreamboat! (the cars are nice as well)

[@chasingcars]

JFCW Stop it, you!

[@enderbilsen915]

Even though Mazda has lack of financial richness, İts technology is better than european producers in terms of engine.

[@CoolizBrown]

Ender Bilsen Vanuaut twiggy has more technology

[@terrydear4038]

I looked at 2 Tiguans with low km (30,000kms) and had a pre purchase inspection on each. They both presented really well so I thought they would fly through. In both instances the inspector said ‘walk away - it’s got the usual DSG problems’. I bought a CX5.

[@soullaaristotelous4376]

Mazda now i thing make very good cars!!! All madels Mazda 3, Mazda 6, Mazda 2, Mazda cx3 ,cx5, cx9. all madels looks best cars!!!

[@4363654]

both are great cars, this is why we have them both. but I don't understand why mazda is less fuel efficient than tiguan, same goes to my experiences. Tiguan consumes less and that is the fact. But why? Mazda Skyactive as they like to brag has the lovest diesel compression ratio at 14:1 and is for that reason the most fuel and NOx efficient engine. Tiguan has this ratio higher at 16:1 but is more fuel efficient as a fact.

[@PeterKyttemann]

I owned the first model for 3 years, and I really enjoyed it. I have now ordered the new model, with the 2.2 diesel 175 hp engine and optimum spec, that is what top of the line is called in Denmark. So now is only to wait for my car, delivery time expected in the end of June. By the way, you can get Android Auto in the Mazda link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZSyp4xshpyBhNE

[@francis2339]

cx 5 vs tiguan who got the best lighting headlights low beam high beam?

[@chasingcars]

Fitted with LED headlights, they are about the same. However, keep in mind that (in Australia) the Tiguan only has LED headlights at the Adventure and Highline trims. The CX-5 has LED headlights across the range.

[@chasingcars]

(And R-Line)

[@themadnes5413]

I as a german, would never buy VW, their reliability went south.... once they made great cars... but now i would choose a jp car over any german one if you want to keep it for more then 5 years.

[@harryhoullis6206]

10:40 don't you mean Akera not Akari (CX-3)

[@chasingcars]

+Harry Houllis Whoops, yes! Recording this straight after attending the CX-3 launch presented a bit of a challenge…

[@stephengriffin4990]

I have too disagree sitting in the back of the Mazda in which I have traveled is a bad place the leather eats are really hard and the lumpy ride in the back could not wait too get out of the damn thing.

[@nickgregory5943]

"however"

[@phil16181]

Hi there, I own the new VW Tiquan TDI 110kw Highline 4Motion 2017 model here in NZ for the last six months months. And l simply love it!! Its very peppy, nice and easy to drive, has plenty of space, and has all the modern safety driving features you can think of. Best of all, it has this parallel auto self parking feature which makes it easy to reverse into a confine space, and also has 360° visual cameras all around the car. It is extremely economical on fuel use averaging 5.8 liters per 100 kms. In my opinion, it is a much nicer looking car all around when compared to the brand-new Mazda CX5 SUV!! However the car is not entirely without itscfaults. I have been having initial reliability problems with its infotainment system since purchase. For example, it switches on and off constantly, making it a pain to drive without the use of its reversing cameras and some of its more useful safety features. I have taken it back to the VW dealers for servicing six times in the last six months without being able to fix the problem successfully. However recently, the car was installed a new VW software update which l hope will solve all its infotainment system idiosyncrasies problems. So far so good. Incidentally your review here is "the best" l have come across so far in comparing respectively both the new 2017 VW Tiquan TDI Highline and the brand-new 2017 Mazda CX5 diesel SUVs models. Keep up the good work!!! 😀

[@chasingcars]

Thanks for commenting Phillip. It's always great to hear about ownership experiences, especially given we only drive the cars for a couple of weeks. We certainly enjoyed the upsides of the Tiguan that you describe - and I wish we got the 110TDI Highline here, as I actually prefer the 110kW version of the diesel drivetrain. Interesting to hear you've had some electronic niggles but yes, fingers crossed that the software update solves the issues. Let us know if it doesn't!

[@gpm1945]

hey is the problem fixed? im from nz too looking to buy a tiguan r line

[@steveh3949]

Should have done some research on the VW and the way dealers look after customers

[@AJ-ku7nm]

The Mazda is so much better!

[@eug3nius]

nah

[@nsxz]

The looks on the R-line is another story. When it comes to Tiguan I would say either R-line or nothing

[@chasingcars]

+nsxz Quite right but here in Australia the R-Line is a $53K proposition, minimum. Fairly pricey.

[@nsxz]

Lucky you Auzzie folks, here in NZ it cost 67K NZD which equivalent to 62K AUD.

[@steveh3949]

VW are a rip off in NZ, what about some comments on customer loyalty from VW, it does not exist.

[@Eli-kq7qt]

I would have to agree... definitely go R line...or your not doing it justice

[@chasingcars]

+kendell patel R-Line is the best looker but I've been seeing a few Highlines in black around our office. They look pretty slick too.

[@mitomaserati]

CX-5 💪👍😍

[@nofam]

Can't wait for the next-generation Tucson; your move, Hyundai!!

[@chasingcars]

+nofam Absolutely right! Current Tucson still drives well though.

[@ACitizenOfOurWorld]

Two cars best known for their agility on curvy roads and no demonstration of that? No emergency avoidance maneuvers at 75kph to evaluate their composure? :(

[@chasingcars]

Will focus on incorporating some of that stuff next time!

[@twai8036]

No apple carplay or android auto? Why?

[@oneuniqueusername]

Meh... I was initially concerned too. But I got the Mazda CX5 GT last week. No issues so far. I can make voice commands, calls, entertainment, DAB, etc... Made me not miss Apple Carplay. adjustable headup display is great too!

[@oneuniqueusername]

What I'm saying is, Apple Carplay is great! however, you would hardly feel its loss with Mazda. up to you..

[@hemi5.7awdpursuit5]

oneuniqueusername I’m sure now you know it’s optional software update for it

[@unknowntraveller8633]

Thank you for that I do like the Tiguan but I feel that VW still have a way to go to really win over customer loyalty, in respect to their customer service issues. Love the DSG on the highway but the idiosyncrasies it shows around town not so

[@chasingcars]

+Steven Lower Very right on both points ... thankfully there's work going on, on both fronts, though the DSG still can't compete with Mazda's torque converter for overall refinement.

[@steveh3949]

VW Have done an amazing job of the design of this car, they have taken the standard German boxy car design and created a boxy standard German car, if they consider all angles should be 90 degrees they will achieve a perfect box !!!!!! With an inflated price tag

[@carlssonlsk]

Steve H It is beautiful and classy boxy yes

[@parthjadav7707]

However

[@jaffarbaqi]

So, I take it you don't have high regard for the Honda CRV. You are entitled to your opinion, but the Honda competes for top of the segment very competently.

[@chasingcars]

No, nothing against the CR-V but we are currently between generations here in Australia. The old model is outdated and the new version has not yet launched in Australia.

[@Dubsinsauce]

Well let's see. German vs Japanese. I'll take the Mazda.

[@XXX1234ABC]

isnt that the 2018 tiguan??

[@chasingcars]

This shape was launched at the end of 2016 as a 2017 model in Australia.

[@_DeaN_.]

mazda no doubt

[@chowchunson1580]

Here in Malaysia... VW only offers the 1.4 engine Highline and Comfortline. Mazda offers the full range. Here's the thing... Mazda's top of range diesel is priced cheaper than the VW 1.4 highline. I think Mazda is better value but undecided. What do you guys think?

[@garajpoklah]

even VW just bring in the 1.4 tsi.. in terms of performance, tiguan more powerfull than 2.4L petrol engine of Mazda.. also handling, Tiguan feel much better... i sudgest you test drive both and then decide.

[@kungula]

Normally VW always wins the comparisons against competion like BMW X1 or Audi Q 3. Only a Skoda or Seat recently beat the VW, mind you they also belong to the Volkswagen group . the Tiguan is a great car.

[@chasingcars]

It's very accomplished but we don't use other publications' comparisons as a guide - we try to bring some fresh thinking to our pieces!

[@Dongzzzzzz]

the already premium tiguan looked cheap when compared to mazda

[@chasingcars]

It's amazing how a new model can come along and make the previous top of the class look a little old.

[@ZaibJ]

Meanwhile other car reviewers are taking a diesel med-SUV and taking lap times

[@chasingcars]

Hmm……… while that's definitely fun I'll leave the lap times to sports cars.

[@JimboJones99]

My kid is an ultra tall basketball player.

[@chasingcars]

Well then you better take that into account Kailem!

[@oneuniqueusername]

cx5!!! come on. VW is so unreliable. Go Japanese!

[@rc666]

and support the killing of whales and dolphins, besides Japanese cars are dull and ride horrible.

[@gezzly72]

R C lol you’ve obviously never driven the mx5

[@apoloniii3259]

Mazda cx 5

[@ARIMAX2]

i cant wait for my mazda cx 5 2018 ...2.5l 4x4 192 hp (:oh yeas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in a 5.1.2018 i wil get her

[@Noname-iz9uo]

Tiguan, life is too short

[@adam145]

I have no idea why is VW going so hard into that design style which makes the car not only look heavy, but feel heavy to drive. Last week my friend got the new Tiguan and it's like a tank.

[@UnderATwilightSky]

The Tiguan looks great, I like it better. The engine is better.

[@Tahara-Aichi]

Under A Twilight Sky the engines are both the same, japan makes the tiguan engine besides other components

[@marcusesq5031]

General George S. Patton Jr. Engines are different.

[@bobmarley6161]

The CX-5 looks stunning the VW looks horrible

[@NZsarge1]

I have to disagree on the engine in respect that the Diesel the default choice but it's just my opinion, I think the Diesel would pay if you seriously high mileages or do a LOT of towing otherwise in a SUV this size I'd take the petrol every time, if it were a Touareg or CX9 then I'd being looking at the Diesel. I'd personally take the Tiggy with the 132kw Petrol motor, I like them both though and wouldn't have a hard time living with the CX5 as long at it fit me (I feel the first CX5 is just a little short on space for me), they've done well with cabin ambience and quality on the Mazda although the technology is easily better in the Tiggy so yeah, the VW for me.

[@chasingcars]

Good comments Sarge and yes the petrols are worth a look. Anyone in the market needs to get out the calculator and work out if the diesel will pay for itself over time given the driving they expect to do. However, it's also a personal preference - I don't like the aspirated petrols in the Mazda and would buy the diesel every time just for the sake of driving pleasure. All that torque is addictive.

[@soullaaristotelous4376]

VW Tiguan looks like 90s!!! Mazda most beuaty car!!!

[@fixanddrive]

Love Mazda.... shame mazdas have corrosion problems

[@fixanddrive]

Because you live in Australia and have no winters? Here in Europe Mazdas get eaten by corrosion

[@adam145]

Poland here, 2008 Mazda 3 and not a single drop of rust. Snows like hell and we have the worst salt on roads that make your wheels yellow.

[@JanGroeger]

We have a taxi company and are using only Mazda since 10+ years and never had problems with them, you are either lying or simply dont know how to take care of a car. And yes, i am from europe

[@chasingcars]

+Denis hjjj That's interesting, Denis. How many Mazdas do you have on your fleet, and what model are they? Don't often hear about Mazda fleets here.

[@JanGroeger]

Since we started almost 11 years ago, i think 12 or 13 Mazda 5 and Mazda 6 in that timespan. Most of them reached 350k to 400k Kilometers without many Problems (We always sell them at max 400.000 km). We currently have 4 Mazda 6 but are thinking of buying the Prius+ if Mazda doesnt deliver a Hybrid anytime soon. edit: We only lost one Mazda 6 because of Engine problems in 2011, an that was at more than 320.000 km

[@cb101daily6]

Tiguan is premium and more techy and solid

[@pivn7204]

@2.08 and @2.17 doesn't look like good build quality.

[@chasingcars]

I had a look at those time stamps and couldn't see anything we noted as an issue.

[@venator272]

tiguan no (dsg and tsi), cx5 yes (classic tranmission).

[@chasingcars]

+Ратник Venator It's definitely a touch smoother

[@brandonpollard8928]

I think it comes down to look and Mazda wins...eww Tiguan ewwwww

[@chasingcars]

+Brandon Pollard Yep, looks are definitely important in this segment!

[@NZsarge1]

Well it all in the eye of the beholder isn't it, they're both good looking cars but I prefer the sharper, more masculine design of the Tiguan.

[@euromandriver]

Tiguan is much better in all areas.

[@brandonpollard8928]

Looks too looks like they no look grabbed from the golf bin....that's only bad because it's there top selling such they could have made it more aggressive. it looks like no man can drive that.

[@maximderim]

CX5 is better looking inside and even better on the outside !

[@pollumG]

Tiguan looks so missionary.. Cx 5 reverse pile driver.

[@thiagolima7344]

I'm Volkswagen for ever

[@zabfe1421]

that Tiguan looks like the ugly son of a VW beetle... even Germans make mistakes with their designs from time to time :)....

[@steveh3949]

ZABFE Unfortunately all the time

[@Wasps76]

The Mazda is like a Toyota, boring.

[@xtraspace6190]

VW is so classy. Mazda look so silly.

[@senagst6510]

A VIEW Classy? Did you mean boring?