2018 Ram 2500 Push button start Safety Concern

[@ward7voter111]

@ Vinnie DiMartino I was a little shocked by this video, and agree that it is unsafe. It prompted me to have my wife try this on our new 2019 Chrysler Pacifica. I had her start the van, put it in neutral (while pressing the brake), and then press the start/stop button. The engine turned off, the vehicle went into accessory mode, and then the system shifted itself to park (it has that stupid dial shifter, not a physical linkage/stalk).

[@mikeizzano172]

Agree to the fullest. Just bought a 2018 wrangler,to avoid the ess I got the k. Model instead of the L model to avoid ess. System. Also they have a second battery tucked away under everything else to run the system. Now you have to disconnect two batteries to kill power for safety concerns. Good luck Vinnie!!.....

[@chrisbrandt3642]

Love my push button start. I have it on my 2014 Ram 3500 Limited. Don't ever want a key again. They don't want you to turn the vehicle off and not have it in park for safety reasons. I will. Try mine out tomorrow and let you know what I find. When the vehicle not running you will quickly lose hydroboost after a few break pressings. No power steering etc.

[@JohnDiMartino]

Push button start is actually illegal it just hasn’t been challenged . The park safety interlock system that’s required cannot work with push button start . The law requires the vehicle to be in park before you can leave with the keys ... You can leave with the Fob without it being in park. I think that’s why the Ram won’t let you shut it off in N, which is rediculous. Why did they use a single push button why not a rotary switch with off/on/start . You are at the complete mercy of the PCM with a push button start all in one . There should always be a way to instantly shut off any vehicle for safety reasons .

[@andyelwood7123]

John DiMartino A good mechanic, expierenced shop CAN TAKE care of THAT in 45 minutes no problem, we have did quite a FEW of THIS and of coarse any kind of warranty is void after THAT and in order to trade or sale it has to be reconnected. Also IT is legal and THAT IS why a replicable shop is reccomened by the mfg . ANDY Elwood Racing-inc

[@andyelwood7123]

John DiMartino THIS system has been used for quite a while by fiat for the upper scale sport cars. Fiat is a European car mfg THAT purchased dodge a few years back, and they do NOT like TO give small shops tech info on anything. Because they also make alot of different parts for cars and tractors. ANDY Elwood Racing-inc

[@jaredstrehlein5605]

I stand corrected. That is totally ridiculous that you can not shift to Neutral, and then turn off motor. Not safe for sure.

[@justingriffith8486]

Sell it

[@randomsanwhich2]

What’s PARK ? Oh I’m sorry, I drive a manual. This makes sense only if your drive an automatic ....

[@biglo9889]

I just bought a Hyundai Genesis with push start never thought to check if I can turn it off if it's in another gear other than park. I'm going to have to go outside check it out right now. Thanks Vince for bringing up this issue. Be safe

[@The_Reverend_Werewolf]

Bought a brand new Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi last year and specifically stayed away from push button start. I drive back and forth from Indiana to Chicago, to the Allegheny forestry area in Pennsylvania for my business and the idea that the I couldn't shut the Truck off if I had a roll over or something was pretty scary.

[@skAhnaksA]

Had PBS for three years and when I borrow someone else's vehicle I'm like "what, I have to take the keys out of my pocket..."

[@vflrockytop]

When we bought my wife's dodge journey back in 2011 I hated the push start. I had many concerns with it but 7 years later and 150,000 miles later, it's not give us a bit of trouble. The fob has gone dead a few times but if you push the start button with the fob it will still start up even if it's dead. It's the exact same setup that is in this 2018 truck in the the video

[@Lawson4450fire]

I can tell you from a FF perspective its not nice sometimes one of the first things you do at an accident is reach in and turn the key off. It wont always be in park and the other thing is you have to find the key fob and move it far enough away for a vehicle to shut off if its within 25 feet it will still run the vehicle. I know that doesn't go for all vehicles but its still a concern.

[@davidcotter3361]

I’m sure there is a way to override the parking sensor for the ignition so that you can shut it down any time you want. It may be as easy as just grounding out the sensor so it thinks it’s in park all the time, as far as the ignition goes. Where there is a will there is a way my friend. Having push button ignition is actually quite convenient and nice feature to have. The longer you have it, the more you will see how it’s so much more convenient and great option. Good luck to ya my friend.

[@BenCoombs]

SO the flaw is the opposite of a neutral safety switch used to prevent starting the vehicle in gear. I agree this is a huge flaw!!

[@sharpshooter1749]

Last year I had a floor mat get stuck on top of my accelerator pedal and the truck screamed down the road... I had no clue wtf was happening and I flipped in neutral which stopped the acceleration and I coasted to the side of the road but the engine racing sound was crazy! I turned engine off and was able to climb out and see the heavy rubber weather tech floor mat had somehow gotten pulled up and was on top of the accelerator. You are spot on brother! That engine needs to turn off as soon as you tell it to with one simple motion!

[@twisted2291]

The Charger is like that as well. Makes it hard to do a 4 wheel alignment when you can't put it in neutral

[@Aint1S]

Manual transmission and keys please.

[@noway5683]

my 2018 jeep is push button and I love it. i do know its shuts off at red lights when idle for long periods of time. i believe as a fuel saver

[@mattautomotive5738]

I like the push button start way better than the rotary dial shift selector in the 1500. I'd probably own a Ram if it weren't for that rotary shift selector.

[@keithmichaels7561]

I know someone that has a 17 Ram 1500. Luckily it has the big fat key to start but it has the transmission gear knob which is not a favorite of mine.

[@robbiemccown9359]

I've got a 2017 big horn ram that I bought new. The twist knob shifter is still kinda weird to use. Awesome truck though. I'm going to try shutting it off in gear just outta curiosity. It's not push button start though, just has crazy looking key. Awesome videos man.

[@dragon81heart]

Totally agree Vin! Haven’t liked them from the beginning. Idk why anyone ever thought turning a key was a problem in the first place lol. But now you can’t turn it off like you said, have no control over the starter or the power going to the fuel pump, etc. Same goes for these silly ass rotary knobs for as a gear shift... cause moving a lever became too complicated or difficult to do?? Lol And also not a big fan of everything going to touch screens (especially in some where the HVAC controls are part of the screen too instead of having actual knobs or buttons. Like yeah a giant fancy screen high in the “oooo ahhhh” factor (remember the digital dash craze in the 80s? Haha) and are nice in some ways, but there is no tactile feel to what you are doing. I don’t want to try to go through 4 menus just to turn the heater from floor to defrost if it starts to ice over on a cold day. And have to take eyes off the road to do so bc you cant go by feel with a touchscreen. Idk, seems silly to me, and a possible safety hazard as well

[@TravB1988]

What if you engaged the parking brake while in neutral and tried to shut off the truck?

[@randy-maxamusfire8678]

Thanks for putting out videos

[@jonstevens802]

Agreed about the push button start. Also hate the gear selector. Makes it too easy to change gears when you don't want to.

[@SmithBrosServicesLLC]

I got one for you that you did not mention. IF you can't put it in park, and you can't shut it off, you cannot get out of the vehicle! There was a Cherokee I heard about with this very problem, the woman could not get it to go into park (for whatever reason), she could not shut it off, and she could not get out!

[@rdoc]

So what if the car caught fire? Or you were involved in a wreck and needed to get out quickly for safety reasons?

[@JohnDiMartino]

First responders hate push button start especially if There is a fuel leak and in the wreckage they can’t find the key fob somehow it gets remote started and they can’t tell if the ignition is off or not

[@mikehumbert1655]

ahhhhhh parking brake.

[@03_viper26]

Hold the start button for 2 seconds at speeds over 5mph while in neutral the engine will shut off and the accessory will stay on to keep the steering wheel unlocked. Read the owners manual it's full of all sorts of useful information about the vehicle.

[@mammutit]

if you ask me the problem is not the push button its the whole transmission and shift lever. If you make that electronic like any other new european or japanese car the push button works perfectly since then the computer can put the car in park for you. but hey merica still lives in 1980s technology

[@shamrock893]

I totally agree with you. I hate push button start and anymore. I hate all the worthless impractical technology they dump in cars these days. I like all the older cars because they are much simpler to operate and fix. Im sure as a mechanic yourself. you know exactly what im talking about. anyway. love your videos my friend, you were always my favorite on American chopper. glad to see your happy now doing what you love. .

[@999wilf999]

What happens if you crash the vehicle, and the gearbox shifts and jams? (This happened to me once, although the impact stopped the engine anyway) Would it even be possible to shut down afterwards?

[@SmithBrosServicesLLC]

Also, when the key is nearby.... I was installing a plow on a 2017 Ram 2500HD two weeks ago. The key was on the wall about 36" from the door handle. EVERY time I walked by if any part of my body touched the driver's door, it would unlock and flash the lights. Then it gets weird. I pulled the driver's side headlight. Then I went to pull the passenger side headlight, and when I removed it, the lights flashed and the doors unlocked?

[@TheStuport]

YIKES....um....."Christine"???

[@makaveli087]

Vince, I'm sure you've figured it out by now but if you can't pop out the Start/Stop Button and insert the key from your fob - You'll need to pop the little panel next to the shifter off and theres a red pull strap you need to give a rip. I've never been big on Push Button Start crap but it is what it is. Make the best of it I guess? lol

[@bandoron]

I have a 2015 Mazda 3 and it has the push button start and i have had to replace the batteries already on both of mine and my wife dongles. Not sure why they have all started going with it

[@martinsmartinsautobodyandr6740]

A friend of mine has a 14 ram 1500. One day he ran it out of gas and it doesnt let you put it in neutral to push it to the side of the road. The starter just kept turning for about a minute then stopped. Then tried to turn on and try for neutral again and the starter did the same thing so we just let in the street till we got gas.

[@anenglishmaninbrazil3212]

It can be configured via the MCU but only for a long hold which makes no difference in time as you might as well waz it in park but if you want to shut it off whilst still rolling it cant be done and keep it stock

[@AMStationEngineer]

The ECM software would require a "moderate" rewrite; mostly "address", "destination - commanded/destination - alternate, destination - default, and destination - override", "go", and "no-go" changes. Also, whichever assembly language/languages, and command protocols, will require 'adjustment'... Or, give Mikey a crack at it, and let him take it thru Senior's pond/lake/puddle ;-)

[@aky19832001]

Vinnie, inwas just like you when I had dodge products and thought all push start are the same. Its just a dodge thing. Toyota is amazing.

[@spresc2180]

My honda dealer told me that eventually ALL vehicles are going to have push button start. I have it on my CRV. The wave of the future.

[@traceysumner9815]

Give me back a metal key please! lol I guess I’m old school and I know they had a problem with not having enough different patterns but push buttons leave to much room for failure just my opinion. Thank you for all the good content keep em coming!

[@ethanbernstein9911]

Why would you want to turn it off when not in park?

[@Fantisan95]

I have a 2018 Ram 1500, and I just got a recall notice in the mail about the cruise control not disengaging on the highway. :/

[@5150Lane]

Love push-button-start! I have a Toyota Sienna with it, and you can turn the engine off even if it isn't in park.

[@dimartinoindustries6026]

Yes, Toyota lets you, Just about every other car company lets you, not dodge

[@tim-ber3125]

push button starts make me angry thought it was just me. glad to know its not just my grumpy ass lol

[@mingusbreeze]

Never have liked the push button start. Thanks for the video.

[@nathanbrodeur]

Vinnie you might also want to look into Dodge Ram 3500 with the ison transmission wiring cause if there is damage to the wires it can cause the rear end to hop and buck the rear end off the road at highway speed if you want more info there are videos on the channel Cotontop3 he has a playlist on that ordeal

[@importbeater24]

Vin check out the frame welds on the 2018 JL Wranglers. Lots of problems reported there. Track bars shearing off etc. FIAT = fix it again Tony.

[@goose32373]

I have a 2017 1500 Ram and it has the funny looking key fob key. I don't think I would have bought it if it was push button. I'm really not crazy about the radio knob shifter that it has.

[@5150Lane]

I felt the same way you do - until I actually owned a vehicle with both the push-button-start, and "the radio knob shifter". Once I got used to them, I really like them both.

[@goose32373]

5150lane I get it. It's just a big difference to get used to. I love my truck though.

[@5150Lane]

One thing I don't like about push-button-start, is that it is easy to walk away from the rental car at the airport with the fob still in my pocket. Have had to go back on more than one occasion to leave the fob. I'm trying to develop the habit of putting the fob in the cup holder when I'm on my way to the airport.

[@normandelise948]

... My 2016 Honda Odyssey has push button start ... my door stays unlocked when I start ... ... I have to press the lock button ... sometimes all locks will unlock when I touch driver's door handle (?) ... ... I can stop the engine while in gear for emergencies if you don't mind all of the ringing and buzzing ... ... when the engine is off there is residual power for braking while the transmission is drown shifting (Needed one time)... ... of course neutral is neutral ...

[@jeffcarello7446]

Does the Ram's steering column lock when you push the button to turn it off? The reason I ask is I just had Nissan replace the steering column lock under a factory re-call on my son's 2009 Altima. He got in it to come home from work and it wouldn't start (column was locked) because the little motor/gears had failed in the box under the dash. Since it was attached to the steering column and failed in the off/locked position the car wouldn't start. Maybe this is the reason it doesn't shut off when not in park? Might be a little problem if your steering column locks while you're driving down the road...

[@russellbrown8452]

Vinnie see if the truck it self cant be redesigned for a key switch start that might solve your problem

[@southjerseysound7340]

I've seen a significant increase in the amount of burnt wrecks that I've had to tow since the whole push to start fad has come along. We went from about 1-2 per year to almost 1 per month now.

[@biglo9889]

SouthJerseySound can you explain why those Vehicles were burnt and push button at the same time are they related to that?

[@southjerseysound7340]

Arlie Hopes y most of the burned wrecks have been push button. While I can't say for sure my opinion is that people panic in the accident and don't shut the car off. If they're OK they usually leave with the key fob but the car still runs and the fuel pump is on even if the car stalled. In the cases where they're incapacitated in some way its the same, bystanders have trouble killing the ignition to cut power. Also sometimes they stall yet the ignition doesn't get shut off and so on. Before the fire/rescue would only cut the battery cables if they thought there was a risk of fire or they had to extricate the people. But in the last few years they're cutting almost all battery cables on cars that aren't drivable and do so first thing. There's a lot to it and other things may cause it. But I've been looking into it recently and I feel that with a keyless ignition the chances are greater in a accident that the ignition is left on. When the ignition is left on then the fuel pump continues to run and after a wreck there's a good chance for a fuel leak. Before the first thing anyone did was turn the key off. But now it's almost impossible for a bystander to turn the cars off.

[@Curly-5557]

I totally agree with you the push button start system in the ram and some of the jeeps are rubbish. As a mechanic when you need to put the vehicle on the hoist you need to get out of the vehicle set it up then get back in the vehicle to up it into park to turn it off. Its just one big head ache and not needed.

[@TheFlatlander440]

No worries for this guy since the newest vehicles I own are more than 12 years old and still running strong.

[@samwisegamgie8163]

William Logan me too my car still has 2 keys, one for the doors and one for the ignition.

[@TheFlatlander440]

My 2006 Subaru Outback has only one universal key and a key FOB. My Suby has 289K on it and still runs great.

[@andrewnemecek4898]

There is a key in the key fob and the push button cover does come off and you can use the key

[@Whoflungpouu]

On my challenger I can pull the button out and use the actual key fob to start the car not sure if you can on the truck tho

[@Aint1S]

I won't touch a new vehicle ever again... I like my 2000 to 2005 Jeeps. Easy to fix everything from the clutch to coil pack and cam sensor aka the silent killer! BTW, push button is another service trick by the manufacturer to control the service of the vehicle. POS switches too.

[@hckyryr]

If you pop it in neutral and hold the push button, it will shut off. I used to work for a Ram dealer and did it all the time. I will say all FCA vehicles have really bad electrical glitches and often have problems with the push button flat out not working at all.

[@jaredstrehlein5605]

Interesting situation. Can you shut the engine off when tranny shifted to neutral? That may work. Because if you had a emergency on the road, shift into N and turn off motor

[@07THE19]

Wow never thought of that. I know the last ram I owned had the dial and I couldn’t imagine why it didn’t have a N. After research I learned about a cable under the dash.

[@sodapop8408]

Not a fan either these pencil pushing engineers I don’t know how they make it through the day why remake something tried and true and if there is a rollover or a fire or something your shit out of luck I am with you

[@andyelwood7123]

Soda Pop they actually design THE electrical and other system's so u have to bring it into a ram dealer and then they can rob u again. I work with used car lot's and u really have to be a VERY expierence mechanic/Shop TO handle the electric systems on cars back almost 20 years ago until today. GOOD LUCK Andy Elwood Racing-inc

[@Gmatt113]

i think this is designed not to turn off vehicle in neutral if the accelerator gets stuck

[@LG-so2jy]

I'm with you vinnie...push button start is a stupid option that should be removed. I guess the manufacturers add these gimmicky things to appease the general public since they're all about gimmicks not the tried and true practical options that car guys like us enjoy.

[@MrFathead]

Both of my cars have push button starts, I have never tried this I wonder if mine are the same. I also hate not having a key, I dropped the keysensor thing one time and it broke and it was really expensive to get fixed and it had my car off the road for ages.

[@marknewman6037]

Push button start / stop on my new BMW X5, would not turn off at all after parking at the airport, had to cancel my flight and drive to local dealer, they had to keep it and then did a "software update" to cure it. Sold car soon after.

[@WhiteGravey]

reminds me of the 2013 ram 1500 express i had if you jiggled the key the right way you could actually start the truck then pull out the key and the truck would stay on. not sure if dodge ever did a recall on that but it was pretty funny. i actually managed to start a few 2013s with my key all friends trucks btw i wasnt out stealing them...

[@carlmic7]

We were taught in a runaway situation, like a stuck throttle, turn off the car! No idiot would ever throw the car in park first!

[@GTiGuy316]

I didnt mind push button on stick shift cars ( give me a minute). Mainly because i could turn them off in neutral and do an alignment. On several newer automatic cars i had to either leave the car in neutral and running to do alignment, or leave someone in the car, in neutural, running, because if you left the car in netural and open the door it would automatically go in park.

[@edwinjohnston6733]

Another new thing what about these cars that constantly shut off when at a light or in traffic then start again? Isn't that bad for the ignition or starter?

[@Blasterxp]

But it will be the future for all cars. Why do you need a key if you have keyless entry and start? Just connect with your phone, wallet...

[@350toocute]

This is why I`ve always bought older Chevrolet.No chip keys nor no push button start.My current daily driver is an 2001 Ls Chevy Blazer.No push button or chip keys.

[@Scottish_Viking84]

Hey Vinnie, some idiots have put their car in neutral and got out of the car and got run over by their own car; it happened to someone famous, so Dodge did that. But if the car in in drive and hold the start button for 5 seconds it kills the engine and puts it in park when you slow down.

[@Astinsan]

It’s to prevent leaving the car while in gear. The reason is the vehicle will roll away. This was a stipulation set by the government nhtsa. It’s also why it doesn’t shut off in neutral

[@marcoguevara8850]

The resale value is going to suck big time, I see a recall coming in case of an emergency being able to stop is necessary as the vehicle starts to depreciate.

[@patrickleonard5034]

Not a fan of this set up either! But ok I just wanted to take the time, and say I’m a huge fan of yours. I was in high school when American chopper came out. I watched religiously, honestly you were a huge inspiration to me growing up! Your a huge reason I wanted to be a mechanic I mean you were the guy who had his head down at the lift just getting it done and you could fix stuff make it run you weren’t just cutting steel and gluing to the bike you were the guy! Anyway I recently have started back at episode 1 showing my kids this show, there 7 and 9 and think it’s pretty rad. But what i have always wondered the show made it seem like the reason you left was that you had just been pushed too thin you were the guy always doing the work. But was there more to it? Was there any bitterness with JR or SR.? Anyway sorry for the novel! But I looked up to you a lot as a teenager and I still do! It’s sad not seeing you on tv now but I’m happy for you! Service and Auto repair and owning your own shop beats the crap out of doing custom bikes And doing 16hr days too meet deadlines all the time! And it seems like there’s so much crap and BS that comes with being on TV (like people leaving you page long comments on your KZbin) anyway. Love the Chanel i would really like to see you review that Portable lift I’ve always wanted to see a real tech operate one opposed to a salesman trying to make a buck! Much love from VT

[@ronron8464]

I’m with ya Vin! 👊

[@justingriffith8486]

Wet did you. They car.

[@demang0405]

Yea seems kinda dumb. Also what happened to your cts v?

[@NerdyMeathead]

also if you install led overhead lights it will mess with the RFID key

[@chicken_cutlass]

Push button start, rotary dial shifter, push button 4wd, all adds up SUCK! Fail waiting to happen Vin.What ever happened to a shift lever? A key?

[@mobileauto1]

On Chrys Fiat system the Noid as its called the push button pops out and allows for the key to work , the key fob end fits into the slot with the Noid removed and allows normal key operation.. I too dislike this system more so on Euro cars as they done have this option to remove when programing additional keys on this truck using a J2675 pass threw and drew Tech interface you program strictly with the button removed and key installed.

[@walterchutka32]

Then way did you buy it, just asking

[@dennispmcfarland14]

Is there a accessery when in park ?

[@toddac61]

This is even worse, there is currently a recall on many dodge and jeep vehicles with the cruise control. If the cruise control is on and there is an electrical glitch you may not be able to turn off the cruise control nor turn off the engine with the push button. You have to throw it in neutral with the cruise control still trying to maintain speed and I assume if you can get it stopped and put in park the start/stop button will turn it off before the engine blows! www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/fiat-chrysler-recalls-4-8-million-vehicles-because-cruise-control-may-not-turn-off/

[@TheTarrMan]

What about in neutral?

[@d.a.r.123]

Safer then being able to accidently turn the truck off while your driving down the road

[@dimartinoindustries6026]

I dont think that a thing thats happening, besides, make it so u have to hold for 2 seconds in gear before it will shut off,

[@orionfixr7713]

Just another gimmick so they can raise the price of the vehicle. Ain't never had or wanted one . I'm sure there's a certain share of the public that just thinks this is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Keep up the great work Vinnie.

[@thomasoshields8838]

I think most ideas today are cost, Dollars and cents.No key cylinders on pass door or Deck lid or hatch

[@jasonpuzio9756]

Well that’s The future every car every truck is going to have push button start jest the way things are now days

[@steverone7623]

Gear shifts and ignition keys all seemed so simple before people started adding all stupid gizmos

[@vamisk]

Is that a column shifter and a dial shifter? Anyway leave it to FCA to do some wacky shit. I have a '74 Duster and it was the only hear that had the super annoying seatbelt interlock. I should add i also have a 6 speed 2014 Toyota with a push button start and i can shut it off while in gear.

[@omarredneckomar5753]

I got to same truck love it Ven👍🤣

[@jhendren0001]

Agree with you I dont care for the little button either just a dumb thing to go wrong and will with time

[@TheStuport]

@0.17....thought you were going to add "Price of that Ram" after Ridiculous....instead of Push start button......BOTH are ridiculous....but Push Start does win in comparison to Price as which is more ridiculous. Can't wait for a video on "Driver-less Vehicles"...YIKES, that will be a hoot! Cheers From Ohio

[@stevenmarrone1526]

That’s why I keep buying and rebuilding the old trucks cause the newer ones are junk

[@TheStuport]

Steven Marrone--- You Rock Sir! Salute

[@SmithBrosServicesLLC]

I was talking to a body shop owner last week. He was at a meeting a few months ago with insurance reps, and they brought up cars that drive themselves. He said the insurance reps said you will need two insurance policies for the autonomous cars, one for the car, and one for the software that drives the car!! Coming to a car near you around 2020.

[@TheStuport]

Smith Brother Services, LLC--- The logistics involved in Driver-less cars is just going to be insane and absurd. The "trickle down effect" of the whole situation will be both comedic and dramatic I'm afraid. I personally will hitch hike or walk before ever getting into a car with no driver. Cheers!

[@thewidower1]

Smith Brothers Services, LLC this is second hand info. (Hearsay) I would need to see some sources before I believe something like this.

[@gravelyman]

That's probably why people got killed in those Toyotas at full throttle. No way to shut down the damn car engine

[@chadharmon5716]

I hate push button in vehicles still prefer to use the hand crank like on the model T 😂 jk I agree vin

[@Docstantinople]

1:08 this dude farted. Must have been the smelly cheeseburger from earlier

[@bartbuckland6805]

Push button start is a thing to get kids to buy new vehicles. I think it is stupid. Was tuning my kid's dodge challenger awhile back and had a frustrating time with that effing push button start. Would have been easier with a key when the vehicle needs to have the ignition in the run position, but not be running so the computer can be accessed to load new tunes into it. Got it done, but what a pain in the arse.

[@RealWorldGarage]

You need to be able to shut off a vehicle in any gear. That is a major safety concern.

[@rlRACECAR]

My favorite ones are when you have to slide the key fob into a slot and then hit the button next to it like in Mini Coopers. 👎🏼

[@Tornado63727]

More expensive electronic parts to replace... Pretty soon there will be no fixing just all replacing Oh I forgot to add... I noticed your temp showing was 61° in Phoenix today I got in my car and it said 131° hahaha

[@bobbymorgret]

Push button start BLOWS! I'd rather take a kick in the balls than have a push button start.

[@themichaelvortex4784]

Totally agree Vinnie. Not a well-thought out feature at all. 🤘🏼👍🏼

[@rickdaystar477]

Dammit Vinnie, As an experienced mechanic you should know that button needs to be calibrated with a greasy ball pien hammer. Ok? Check back if you need further instructions....lol

[@Rollingwrenchsnowbikes]

Also the back up alarms jams on the brakes when/if you wanna back into your garage. Fail!