2018 Winnebago Travato 59K Review | Best Lowcost Class B RV Campervans

[@AndrewIsaac]

Another great video! We’ve been shopping for a Class B and I agree with your assessment that the Travato seems to be the best bang for your buck. Yes, the quality is not on par with a Pleasure Way but it is still a very good value, and actually holds an advantage in a few areas. The 2019 Travato models now both come with compressor refrigerators, something the Pleasure Ways still don’t have. The Travato also has more cargo space than the equivalent Promaster model on the PW side, the Lexor. Not just with the use of the roof and bike rack, but interior space as well. They’re also now “4 season” vans; that’s big for a lot of people. For me, the compressor fridge is a must on small B like these. We want to use the vehicle for quick getaways and be able to park anywhere. I don’t want to have to level the van just to get my fridge to work when we pull up to a spot off the main road. The few improvements I’ve wanted to see in the Travato seem to have been taken care of with the newly announced 59GL and 59KL models; MUCH better windows, less need to carry all the window shades for the cab and rear windows, better use of space under the bed in the 59G and most importantly, a powerful Lithium system with no noisy generator. Depending on how Winnebago prices these new models, I think they could take an even bigger bite out of the Class B market. One concern I have is how much these heavier components affect the Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity (OCCC) of the vehicle. The Travato already had a pretty good OCCC of around 1900 lbs, so maybe it won’t be too bad. The Lexor is not too bad in this area either, I think it’s around 1600 lbs. Better than a lot of other models out there. This could be a great topic for one of your videos. It’s an area that a lot of RV buyer tend to ignore until it’s too late; just how much stuff can I really carry around in my new RV?! GVWR, GAWR, GCWR and OCCC are very important acronyms that all RVers should be familiar with.

[@Ultramobility]

OCCC. GVWR, GCWR is an upcoming episode LOL! Not next week for the week after so stay tuned! What a great and thoughtful comment. Thank you so much for sharing with folks. I'm going to pin it! Love the Travato and think that it is one heck of a van for your buck. Hope they sell a bazillion of them!

[@waynewolfe3514]

OCCC - excellent point Andrew. Lack of OCCC is my biggest concern about many of the B+ vans sold on the market today. My view is that a lighter loaded properly balanced motorhome, that is well under the GVWR, has better handling and braking characteristics in an emergency maneuver situation.

[@Ultramobility]

yeah agree plus you can potentially tow more!

[@gosman949]

The 59GL and 59KL will carry an extra price tag of $30k for the Pure3 Energy Management System! Is it worth it? Hopefully the subject a future video comparison?

[@patd4u2]

The 2018 K's come with a compressor fridge.

[@patd4u2]

After looking at Class B's for a few months I decided on the Travato 59K. I got a 2018 at I think was a great price, I love the open floor plan of it, I drove it to Phoenix from Southern Cal last week and loved stopping at the rest areas and just laying on one of the side couches with the sliding door open and the screen door shut. Just what I wanted, not claustrophobic at all inside of it. I have no problem with the engine power, got me there and back with no problems, cruised at 65 mph and got around 17-18 MPG. No problems yet with the build quality, One issue came up on Friday night when I am hooked up to shore power, there is a hum coming from the AC to DC inverter. Called the dealer and texted them a quick video of the noise. Have not heard back from them yet. I bought the Cherry Red Travato and I got some compliments from people at the rest areas.

[@Ultramobility]

that cherry red is stunning. congratulations on your new rig! so happy that you bought a class b. I love the 59k. the interior is so wide open and bright. love the rear bathroom. love the feeling of the cabinets shutting. very nice van all around. great choice and i'm sure you got a great price!

[@scottgroves974]

I have a 2016 59K and love it. I watch reviews of other class b vans but always like what I got. I added more solar power. The toilet was removed and a composting toilet was install. Another valve was put on so the waste and gray holding tanks could be joined to increase capacity. Lithion batteries are going to be installed next.

[@Ultramobility]

Wow, you've made quite a few great changes. If you were in CA I'd love to showcase you and your van!

[@edrudder2148]

I'm getting addicted to your videos. The time you take to explain and describe fits me very well. Thank you sir.

[@Ultramobility]

Hi, Ed. I really glad you like my format. I try to give you something different than what you may normally find on KZbin. A lot of reviews are just walkthroughs but I want to explain what's unique, or new or what stands out (positive or negative) about a van. Thanks for subscribing!

[@alexharris5985]

I like your videos, your style is unique and presentations elicit a feeling of almost being there. The quality and well thought out editing of the short presentations are nicely paced and are first rate quality....thanks for taking the time and care!

[@Ultramobility]

Alex many thanks for your comment. I really appreciate it. I try to make my videos stand out by being personal, honest and helpful. I'm glad to hear that you enjoy them. Thanks for subscribing! Best, Neil

[@jimlewis4853]

For the first minute I thought I was watching "Dr. Drew calmly buries a series of bodies in the woods". But this is cool too. Subscribed

[@Ultramobility]

lol. you sir are funny but I can see what you mean if you're looking the wrong way! thank you so much for subscribing!

[@mead2000]

Thanks for the review. I am actually even more impressed how you used the 2D capabilities of a 360 camera combined with digital panning!

[@Ultramobility]

many thanks for the compliment!

[@ArbitraryExploration]

This is a great video format for people interested in shopping for Class B vans. I really enjoyed the Class B tours you provided. Thank you for putting the video together!

[@Ultramobility]

Many thanks Arbitrary Exploration! I'm glad you enjoy them and find them valuable. Thank you for subscribing!

[@ruthleclere3808]

Wow I made you tube!my grandkids are impressed!thank you for this video.i did not know that there were 2 seatbelts in the back!cant wait to pick mine up!i really enjoy your channel!

[@Ultramobility]

ha! you're famous in KZbin now Ruth! Thanks for the question!

[@patriciahinkley9125]

I loved the video. So happy you reviewed the 59K, as I'm looking at that one for myself. Please more reviews ! Thank you.

[@Ultramobility]

You got it Patricia thanks for becoming a subscriber!

[@karendunbar4459]

Ultramobility Trust your opinions, interested in Travato but just checked out the Coachman Crossfit 22D. Impressed. Do you have any impressions of Coachman?

[@sherellucasemmanuelcarsola6896]

hahaha 7:25 i kept looking for your shoes lol

[@donnadelahanty9903]

Love the Travato! I like the 59GL but the 59K is a beauty too! Love the layout.love the boondocking ability. I want one!! Nice video.

[@Ultramobility]

Thanks 👍

[@reginacarmel]

Another interesting video. With that red, no blending into the surroundings. ;-) Exciting to see how increased demand and competition are beginning to drive up the quality and appeal of RVs. Fit RV has also reviewed the latest Travato; it’s creating lots of buzz. More Euro feel to these new designs. Also interesting: LTV has a contest running for viewer innovative floor plans. Can’t wait to see what comes of that. Thanks for another well-done video.

[@Ultramobility]

glad you like it rcarmel and thank you for the support. I learned a lot doing this video and future reviews will be done a bit differently. agree with the influence from Europe. I think it is having a good effect on our North America market.

[@reginacarmel]

Ultramobility FYI, if it helps, early part of video is a tad dark. Other pluses - IMHO - re: new Travato, seems to be more weatherproofed, i.e., plumbing, etc., under carriage are better insulated against cold. Would love to see far less use of propane; eg: higher capacity inverters, solar, induction stove. In fact, re: stove, I imagine using my Instant Pot and not cooking much at all. Currently using a portable induction unit for testing: works beautifully. No heat, no flame, little space, hidden when out of use. For someone who loves eating fresh produce, the extra counter space is ideal for cutting/assembling. This Travato really looks like a winner. Winnebago is listening: bravo!

[@Ultramobility]

I've got to figure out the lighting situation. If I were shooting in normal flat tv video mode then I could use my lighting rig. But with 360 degree video (which is what I shoot in) you'll see the ugly lighting rig just hanging out when you look around. Maybe that's ok? What do you think? Thanks as always for sharing your comments with me and other viewers. Really appreciate it!

[@reginacarmel]

Ultramobility The yin and yang of everything: I’d say try the 360 and get view feedback. May be worth the better lighting. Meanwhile, the great strength of your presentations is: you, the soft-spoken, intelligent, nice person with whom viewers enjoy spending time. Or maybe you’d like to do a giveaway of a new Pleasure Way????

[@Ultramobility]

If Pleasureway would only give me a rig to giveaway! I'll ask Dean about that ;-) Thank you very much for your suggestion. I enjoy listening to my audience and you have given me very good pointers so far! Maybe having the lighting rig in the shot won't be such a problem. I should try it in an upcoming 360 video and see.

[@notconvincedgranny6573]

Tilden is beautiful, especially this time of year.

[@Ultramobility]

it certainly is. thank you for your comment!

[@collegchick39]

I am new to your channel. And I already love it. Too bad my husband doesn’t want to buy an RV but I can dream

[@Ultramobility]

Angela, welcome aboard! why doesn't your husband want to buy an RV??

[@collegchick39]

Ultramobility he is more of plane to hotel man. But I am slowly changing his mind

[@Ultramobility]

tell him that he can travel is luxury and style in his beautiful camper van to his 5 star hotel. imagine pulling up in one of these Mercedes vans and having it valet parked as you check into the Ritz lol!

[@collegchick39]

Ultramobility 😂

[@ratty5]

The bathroom in the back layout makes a lot of sense. Some vans seem to have too many seats and sinks for one person.

[@raysater4083]

A great video mate glad to stumble on your sight, there are too many full timers who think buying a van and throwing some timber in it makes an RV. You need to work hard save your money and buy something new and reliable if you want to enjoy the nomadic lifestyle.

[@Ultramobility]

Ray glad you stumbled onto my site as well. You're right - it takes a lot of work to make a quality campervan. It's more than just buying a van and building a bed in the back although if that works for you then great! Thanks for subscribing!

[@mailisailor]

Thanks for your videos. Learning a lot from you

[@Ultramobility]

thank you for watching TravelingGrandmaG!

[@winnebagotravatotravel]

As a new owner of a 2018 Travato K let me warn you. You will be getting a low price point but the quality controls at Winnebago are horrible. I have more issues than I can even remember with this rig in the 2 months k have owned it. If you are willing to take about 1/2 the price of a comparable RoadTrek in exchange for dealing with a lot of quality issues and repairs then it is a great deal. My heater never works on electric. My sink drain wasn't even hooked up. There is no spare It has no power. Just went to California and back. Good times in those mountains let me tell you. The parts are very cheap. I could go own. Just know what you are getting. A low budget , low quality RV at a great price that you will spend a lot of time on. And since getting in for warranty repairs can take weeks or months, it's just easier to eat the cost and do many of the repairs yourself

[@Ultramobility]

Yikes, Fat Guy Tiny RV Camper Van! Really good that you've shared your experiences here. Let me know how things do or don't get resolved with Winnebago. Shame on them.

[@winnebagotravatotravel]

Ultramobility thanks. I've accepted it's a lower quality build that I saved a lot of money on. So far the repairs have been relatively minor.

[@Ultramobility]

It' still a nice van. I really like the layout. If its just minor things that's great. You did save tens of thousands of dollars.

[@winnebagotravatotravel]

Ultramobility the layout is amazing. That and the large bathroom is why I bought it.

[@thomass1146]

Why do you say "price point" instead of "price"? You sound like a yuppie.

[@thomasfranta7028]

Like to see a head to head between the Crossfit and the Travato Both similarly priced in the less expensive lineup

[@karendunbar4459]

Tom Franta yes, our thoughts exactly.

[@jamess2478]

I'm a 42-year-old, self-employed single guy who has always dreamed of owning and living full-time in an RV. I've always pictured it as something I'd do in the distant future (retirement, etc.), but lately I've been thinking, why put off until tomorrow what I can do today? Life's just too short. Stumbled across your videos while exploring different brands of Class B's, and have to say I'm VERY impressed with both the style but especially the substance of your posts. Forgive me if this has been answered before, but what would you recommend as the top 2 or 3 Class B models for a FULL-TIMER?

[@Ultramobility]

Oh man, James. That's a difficult question. Is it just or do you have a pet? How important is space? Do you need a lot of storage? How tall are you? answers to these questions and others will help me help you better.

[@jamess2478]

Thanks for taking the time to reply. It sounds like you spend a lot of time in your Ascent, but I'm guessing your experience using it for getaway weekend trips and as a mobile office might be very different from someone trying to live in one full time. To answer your questions, it will just be me, although I'd likely have a friend and/or dog join me sometimes. I'm 6' tall. Space is less important to me than overall comfort and livability (I've always joked that should I ever have to go to prison for some reason, I'd probably get along just fine as long as I could still read and write lol). I wouldn't need a ton of storage, as I don't have a lot of "stuff" to begin with and I'll have the flexibility to store what I don't take with me in a family member's basement. For what it's worth, the biggest (and really ONLY) thing on the "cons" side of my pros/cons list is the driving part. I've never driven anything bigger than a regular 4-door Mercedez Benz, not even an SUV! So the whole size thing is a little intimidating, which is why I switched from looking at Class C's to Class B's in the first place (still open to a Class C, but right now a Class B is seeming like the better personal fit). Thanks again for any tips and advice you might be able to offer, and of course I will continue following your channel as a new loyal subscriber.

[@Ultramobility]

Do you mind a longer van like 23 feet or do you prefer a shorter one like mine? I'd say you need to consider the bedroom arrangement and comfort of the cab seat since you're tall. I would recommend the Lexor by Pleasureway as it has the same layout as mine but is a tad longer at 21 feet. The bed is larger. not sure about the cab. high quality. good price. if you're thinking about C's then take a look at the Pleasureway Plateau XLMB which has the murphy bed. Very spacious, high quality but clocks in at 24 feet. Do you need a 4 season van? If so consider the Paseo by Winnebago built on the Ford platform (it's gas) or the new Travato with the lithium ion batteries.

[@jamess2478]

Thanks for the helpful reply! I probably won't know what length I'm comfortable with until I visit some dealers/shows and see some of these RV models in person. Before stumbling across your channel, I'd pretty much narrowed things down to Pleasure-Way or Roadtrek. I really liked the Roadtrek brand, but after watching some of your videos (still working my way through the archives), I'm re-thinking that and leaning more toward PW. The Lexor seems nice but I don't like the idea of a Dodge/gas engine. Most of what I've read so far says that diesel engines are more durable and better for full-timers? Plus I've been driving a Mercedes Benz for the past five years so I'm already comfortable with the brand and like the idea of sticking with them. The Plateau XLTD caught my eye (LOVE that bathroom!) but the price is considerably higher than what I was hoping to pay. Still lots to think about! Thanks again for the recommendations and for providing such a fantastic resource for those of us newly exploring the world of Class B's.

[@Desperado3248]

I would definitely look at this as my first class. Allows you to take more people with you, option of full Queen bed, maybe add one up front for kids. Greatvent system, generator a must . Would change rear curtain to a sliding mechanism like side windows. All in all a pretty good van ,with ability to add on , Believe newer ones have better electrical options a wind sensor awning. Would like to see a better, longer warranty

[@tightloop01]

Love your channel and you have given me a great education on camper vans. Would love to see a video comparing your favorite camper van against the Winnebago View 24D floor plan. Seems that your theme is purely class B limited, which I get. But for a Sprinter based platform, seems like the View is a small leap up in size for a lot more living space. Getting your pro/con in a comparison would be very interesting.

[@peggybowles22]

Great video! I love the 59k!

[@Ultramobility]

It really is a great van isn't it Peggy? The 2019 model year is even better with some great improvements like lithium ion batteries, a window in the kitchen, etc.

[@kjlcycler]

I would hold out for the 59KL! They still need to add induction cooktop & slide out pantry instead of tiny clothes closet.

[@Ultramobility]

they are making great improvements to the travato line and that will only help to spur the other manufacturers to pick up the pace and try to outperform this already great selling van!

[@theShamrockShepherdWagon]

exactly what I'd suggest! However I think it's worth the price and I'd make those mods after.

[@okcjoesos]

I’m looking forward to your assessment of travatos new 59 L’s (lithium) vans.

[@Ultramobility]

i will certainly do a review but just watched a video on it and will give you my quick take: It's great that Winnebago is innovating and giving Roadtrek a run for its money. 48 volt systems certainly have their advantages but they come at a cost as well. as you can see the msrp for the L series is something like $25k - $30k more expensive. At those levels you're in premium territory and ... well frankly their quality just doesn't match. You can't sell a $140k plus van and then build the cabinets with stick framing and staples and give only a 1 year warranty. does not make sense. i predict sales will struggle unless they improve the quality and offer a competitive 5-6 year warranty.

[@stuartw969]

Excellent review - as a;ways! Thank you.

[@dansalas399]

Thanks Neal! I do like the 59K better than the 59G with our use case. The open air feel and the roomy bathroom are the features that won me over. Travato also got smart by including the bench seat belts finally. Cheers!

[@Ultramobility]

dan glad you're zeroing in on the van that's right for yoU!

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Love the openness of the layout like you said, but I would move the sink to the other side next to the siding door entrance and I would put the Aktiv style front facing 2 seater there for a dinning area, not wall behind the seats. Leave everything else the same. And that would be my ideal layout exactly!

[@Ultramobility]

yeah the problem with moving the lounge to the front on the sprinter chassis is that the van is too narrow. you have to blow out the windows in the back to get a bed in so that you can sleep laterally because there's not enough length once you move the lounge to the front.

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Ultramobility I thought the lounge on the Aktiv turns into a small twin bed using the front drivers seat? I’m also fine not having two beds just for my wife and myself, so I would be fine having those two seat apart like on the luxury touring sprint by Midwest that you showed. I like having two extra front facing seat belted seats, plus you can put a removable table in the middle of all four seats to make a nice dinning area.. and the couches in the back that convert to a bed will be the true lounge area with TV..

[@salvatorepennini2934]

In addition, the 2019 model year now comes standard with two solar panels (200 watts total) and a 1,000 watt inverter.

[@Ultramobility]

great to know Salvatore thanks for sharing!

[@dianacryder7523]

I love your videos. So informative! But it always comes back to this one question, my main concern. How well are they insulated? I plan to live full time on the road. I want to be able to use dispersed camping and to be able to boondock in all climates. My biggest concern and desire is to be able to spend some of my time in cold country and snow. I can visit hot climates in winter but I can't visit the snow in summer. I love the Winnebago for layout and quality but I don't want to spend that much money and then have to tear it all apart to insulate it against freezing temperatures. Do you have a good recommendation or suggestion on how I can avoid doing my own conversion and still have the freedom and flexibility that doesn't require going deisel? I would love it if you would apply your excellent analytical skills to doing a video on how fulltime RVers can find or create well insulated living environments resistent to freezing problems without doing their own build or tear out and reconstruction. Thanks bunches for your well thought out and informative videos. The material you present is so useful for avoiding costly mistakes.

[@Ultramobility]

Hi, Diana. Well the new Travato 50GL, like its predecessor is *almost* all season. It is not advertised as all season but it does have heated holding tanks including a heated fresh water tank and a heated lithium ion battery casing. It is one of the most all-season ready class B rv's out there (after the Revel and Paseo). That being said there are some quality issues around insulation that they need to address. Take a look at this video review from the Fit Rv. At time marker 11:40 you'll notice a cabinet space under the bed. The wheel well is not insulated. Bad. I can't comment as to how well this rig will perform in colder clients. The Fit RV did a thermo test of theirs with a heat gun. You can find the video on their channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJeqkGuOYtaAe7sm40s

[@dianacryder7523]

Ultramobility You're an incredible resource. Thank you so much!

[@Ultramobility]

well I'm just glad you like my channel and you've subscribed. Thank you!

[@heidigib01]

This is on my short list. I love this van especially since they added power and seat belts,

[@Ultramobility]

hey there! glad you like the 59k! fyi the seatbelts are lap belts only. just keep that in mind.

[@jenniferharris7633]

Have you seen the new Travato 59 GL with 48 volt lithium battery system? I like the Travato but is it snobbish of me to say I don't want to be seen in a Dodge :-/ ? Please do a review on the Winnebago Era 70M. And I really like the new q&a format over the old one. More detail is always preferable. Thanks.

[@theShamrockShepherdWagon]

Actually the Ram is enjoying a good reputation right now, and it's easier to get service and parts around the country than the Mercedes Diesel. Just food for thought. Many of us prefer the gas Ram ProMaster.

[@Ultramobility]

I will do a review of the lovely 70M. I really like that layout. Agree with Sue that the Promaster is a great chassis. Very good. Used for years in Europe so it has a great track record. Thousands less than the Sprinter and easily serviceable are all very appealing. Jennifer, you just may like that Silver Star though!

[@KlaxontheImpailr]

I'm looking to make my own camper from a cargo van but I really like these class b vans too, maybe I'll get one after I save up the money ;)

[@raylam88]

Hi Neil! Very informative video. What camera are you using? How are you controlling it remotely? Very cool! I live in the Montclair area of Oakland, and will wave and say hi if I see you cruising around. I am interested in the new gas version Sprinter. Hopefully you will have a test drive and review in the near future. Keep up the good work! See you around!

[@Ultramobility]

Please do! I use a Yi 360 RV camera. also have the insta one but he yi ix better.

[@jaykaydee5772]

There is a lot to be said for resale value when you purchase the most popular class B camper van. The same is true for automotive products - popular sellers move in the aftermarket.

[@davidvitali1239]

Thank you so much for making this video. I did have one question... I was wondering do you know F Winnebago has a Trovato Makes a floor plan where the back is an open lounge kind of like in your RV and he convert makes a floor plan where the back is an open lounge kind of like in your RV where the sofa converts into a bed. The reason why am asking is because I really love the open feeling and all of the windows and with the 59k and G models I have not seen all of that open area nurse with the windows and natural light coming in.

[@Ultramobility]

unfortunately the travato like only has the 59k (twin bed layout with the bathroom in the rear) and 59g (bed in the rear and lounge up front). If you like the promaster chassis but want a more traditional layout like mine with the bed in the rear then you may want to consider the Roadtrek Zion. They have a model with the rear bench seat. It would be cool if Winnebago made a Travato floorplan with a rear bench seat. Maybe they will!

[@mitochondriaisback13]

I do not like that the fridge and microwave is low…bad for people with bad knees and back. You do good work,sir

[@Ultramobility]

thank you very much mitochondriaisback13! I appreciate it. I agree with you that the fridge and microwave at ground level is really odd. I mean does anyone have a kitchen in their home like that?

[@outdoorsboy]

Question - at the very beginning and then end you’re in a rv that has the large picture window behind you. Which rv is that? I love the large windows.

[@creightonedward]

I too want to know what he's driving in the beginning of the video.

[@andys623]

FYI, this past week Winnebago announced the Travato GL and KL. Lithium powered version with auxiliary alternator (i.e. underhood generator). supposed to be available this summer in limited supply.

[@Ultramobility]

Yep, fantastic upgrade that is aiming right at the heart of Roadtrek.

[@henryrosa8366]

Great review, gets me thinking. Another thing off topic that I would like to know is how you do your professional filming by yourself?

[@Ultramobility]

many thanks, henry. it's a lot of work lol. i have an imaginary crew that i conjure up in my mind and pay with imaginary money lol.

[@BrendaJones492]

Ultramobility Ha ha.

[@staceystory7175]

I love it they just beat out leisure with all electric system I've been waiting need electric stove top if option they have a sale.

[@Ultramobility]

Stacey don't forget that you can buy a portable induction cooktop that fits nicely into a drawer at Walmart for like $50. Go get that Travato!

[@andys623]

I just wish the promaster had better towing capacity compared to transit or sprinter. Some of us want to bring our Big Bikes and extra gear along.

[@Ultramobility]

Agree. one of the deficiencies of a gas engine unfortunately. i guess a trade off between the convenience of gas and the power of a diesel.

[@andys623]

no more about front wheel drive compared to rear wheel drive and displacement. if you take the time to look at the transit specs on ford and winnebagos websites. you will see they offer larger engines in both gas and diesel. when I worked in engineering I still had to do my homework. just sayin.

[@Ultramobility]

Yep point well taken. That EcoBoast engine is really nice. I'm going to have to test drive one soon! Thanks for pointing this out.

[@dynabanjo]

For Q&A could you discuss insurance and other miscellaneous expenses for Rv owners?

[@Ultramobility]

Yep that's a scheduled upcoming epsidoe - about 3 weeks away!

[@moneyplant2846]

Great job.. I need it for India what would be the cost and procedures.. Please revert

[@benvernick]

Hi I am new to your channel and just subscribed, great and insightful videos!! I have been researching class B’s for about the past 6 months and although loved the 59K layout was waiting for a Lithium upgrade and finally it’s here! Even after 6 months my head starts to spin when they talk about Amps, Watts, Volts, etc. maybe I should have paid more attention in school 😀. Is there a simple way of understanding the differences and the importance of each? For example the battery in the new 59KL is different than others and so is the Alternator but what does all the mean in real life usage? Thanks so much for your great videos, it’s been snowing all day in the NE and have been binge watching all day!

[@AndrewPappCsatari]

Thanks for the review! I'm wondering how you would rate the Hymer Aktiv 2.0 relative to the Travato in terms of build quality, options, and value in general. Thanks!

[@Ultramobility]

that's a great question. i will look into that. i'm fairly certain the hymer doesn't use staples in its construction so that's already a plus over the travato but.. RT has some quality control issues in general so hopefully that hasn't translated over to the Hymer line. I'll take a closer look at the Aktiv and maybe do a head to head comparison!

[@AndrewPappCsatari]

A head to head comparison b/w Winnebago Travato and Hymer Aktiv 2.0 would be wonderful. Looking forward to it... Thanks!

[@tominftlthomasp3559]

yes, do a head to head comparison. Travato vs aktiv

[@johnreddinger6025]

The 2020 59K that I looked at did not have a macerator for the black tank flush. Is this a potential problem or aggravation when emptying the tank?

[@jamesfrazier9282]

Awesome videos!! I am also in the market for a new Class B Van and have narrowed it down to the Winnebago Travato 59K for the many reasons Andrew listed below and the Pleasure Way Lexor TS. I love both for each ones specific pros/cons and I am having a terrible time making up my mind! Can you do a review on the PW Lexor TS at some point? I want the "fit and finish" of the PW's but I love the compressor refrigerator and the open layout of the Travato 59K as well as the huge rear bath!! And the Travato's are much cheaper and have quality fit and finish as well. Ugh I need help with this decision! Thank you for the great videos! Have followed you from the beginning!!! Keep it up!!!

[@Ultramobility]

Hi, James. You're in luck. I have review of the awesome Lexor FL model coming out next week! Stay tuned!

[@patd4u2]

I just purchased a 2018 Travato K three weeks ago and very Happy with it.

[@cattsmahal1005]

Neil I’m binging On your vids. Love ALL of them. However, I don’t feel the same if ALL RVs

[@donnadelahanty9903]

What RV are you in while you made this video plz?

[@Ultramobility]

pleasureway ascent

[@5290harp]

Correct me if I am wrong, but does one have to either be plugged into shore power, or run the generator in order to heat the electric water heater. If so, this is sort of a hassle just to take a shower, or wash some dishes. Any comment?

[@Ultramobility]

hi, david. i dont think so. here's what the Winnebago site says: "* Quick Recovery Truma Combi™ water/coach heater system runs on LP and/or 110-volt electric (includes 2-850-watt heating elements)" so it runs off lp as well as electric.

[@jeffkam8862]

Do they have it with lithium vs SGM. Not the pure 3, but 400 lith or closer. Pros/cons. Thanks.

[@lisawayment3261]

Could you please tell me what kind of security alarm system? Can the security system be activated while living inside?

[@iangorner]

👍Nice one...thank you.

[@Ultramobility]

Ian, thank you very much!

[@thomasfranta7028]

I noticed you mentioned this is a good bargain for the money however you then show the list price of the Pleasureway as less expensive with the 59k when you did the head to head video So therefore that would make the Pleasureway a bargain Coach? I wouldn’t think so myself I would be very surprised if you could purchase a Pleasureway Lexor for less then a 59k Thanks Neil

[@Ultramobility]

well I've since changed the way I disclose pricing based on viewer suggestions. I do always list the price that is on the dealer's window. in this case the winnebago travato's price was higher *at this dealer*. the reality is that many other dealers had much lower prices so it was unfair of me to not disclose that. I now disclose that in my reviews. I'll say something to the effect "But I've seen dealer prices at the time of this video for as low as …" that would have cleared up this confusion about the Pleasureway pricing being lower than Winnebago's because it's not.

[@cynthiataylor2279]

Please provide us with info for all season b class motor homes with induction cooktops that run on gasoline. Not all gas stations carry diesel.

[@Ultramobility]

I can't really think of any true all-season rv right now that isn't a custom build one. there's so much that goes into all-season beyond interior plumbing and heated tanks... i'll keep my ear to the ground.

[@cynthiataylor2279]

@@Ultramobility Thank you. I'm interested, Cindy

[@thomasdarby6084]

What's with the "MCD" shades? They look like step backwards, to me. My bedroom, back in the 50's, had roller shades that operated the same way. I much prefer the RV pleated shades with separate day or night portions. The MCD's just seem like a way for RV builders to cheap out on quality and cost.

[@Ultramobility]

well I've had both pleated and mcd. I much prefer the mcd over the pleated. much easier to operate. much easier to adjust. easier to clean and they just work well. the pleated ones tend to collect dust (which there is a lot of since you're traveling about) and they are much harder to clean. just my opinion though. the good news is that there are window coverings to suit the needs of almost anyone!

[@RenatoSacchi]

Interesting video and review. So this type of RV is going to be appreciated also in USA. It is sooo popular in Europe☺. Very strange that "last " version of van aestethically still looks like the previous version of european Fiat Ducato ( front and lights shape).

[@Ultramobility]

It is the Ducato. Named the Promaster here in the U.S. but the same tried and true Ducato that's been used successfully in Europe for years.

[@onejourney]

★★★★★ Outstanding, thank you so much for sharing. I like the way you use your camera lens and panning motion. How tall are you?

[@Ultramobility]

Many thanks, One Journey and thanks for subscribing!

[@allankawakami7851]

Will you please do a review of the Travato 59GL.

[@Ultramobility]

yep as soon as they come out I will do a review!

[@Emuspaul]

I want big windows out the back because it is hard to go in reverse in a camper. Also I never use a TV while camping; but would use my 5K iMac to edit my photos and video.

[@Ultramobility]

Paul I agree. I like the big windows in the back of my Ascent. I use them all the time while driving. Take down that TV and Mount your iMac!

[@raulmemoirs]

About a year and a half after this video was posted. Do you consider it the best low cost class b?

[@izzy7062]

What's with the all black outfits? And low cost inly if you think 95,000.00 is just an ok for a small van with a few amenities

[@tmichellebrown48]

Can you do a review on the Thor Vegas .

[@Ultramobility]

I have added it to my list, TMichelle!

[@Ptpop]

So, 59k is the model # of the van and not the purchase price? Is there an RV Camper van for $59k?

[@thuff3207]

The size is small enough to fit at home and where I need to go. Yes I like the 59k.

[@Ultramobility]

thanks for the comment - good to hear.

[@ehummingbird669]

Not sure, but I think the 2018 59G has two seat belts at the dinette and the 59K has no seat belts at the benches. I believe the 2019 has seat belts on both benches. Would you please confirm?

[@Ultramobility]

Yes the 59G has two seat belts as does the 59k. The seat belts on the 59k are on the bench on the driver's side. There are not 4 seat belts in the back of the 59k however like i mistakenly thought.

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Oh and I also prefer an induction cooker and large missive refrig.

[@Ultramobility]

yep but both are power hungry so you'll need large lithium battery banks.

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Ultramobility I want to install the 10,000kw Telsa Power wall on the roof next to 800 watt solar panels

[@donnadelahanty9903]

Thats a nice van you have. What is it?

[@heidigibbons1207]

Are you certain about the seat belts in the back? If so it must be new, I asked Winnebago and was told only the front seats offered seatbelts. If it had additional seatbelts it would be just about perfect.

[@Ultramobility]

Well, I'm only certain that they show it on the floor plan layout on their site. They clearly show 4 seat belts in the back. That would be false advertising if they didn't have them. Please take a look yourself on their site. Look at the floor plan and let me know if you see it as well.

[@heidigibbons1207]

Ultramobility that’s great. Thanks

[@Ultramobility]

Hi, Heidi. By the way I was mistaken in the video when I said I thought they had 4 seat belts in the back. On their floorplans they only show 2 along the driver's side bench seat.

[@heidigibbons1207]

Ultramobility wow, thanks for clarifying that. Very kind of you.

[@Ultramobility]

My pleasure, Heidi and thanks for subscribing!

[@theShamrockShepherdWagon]

Thanks for confirming what I knew. Appreciate your review.

[@Ultramobility]

Sue, did you buy a Travato?

[@277kne]

Hi, I just watched a review of the 2019? Travato with lithium battery. It was on FitRV. My complaints are about the poor quality. I saw inside the cabinet,that the rear wheel well wasn't covered well. And on the underneath parts of cabinets or bed or wood, it isn't finished. Just raw wood. Can you comment and include Pleasure Way too?

[@Ultramobility]

Sure enough 277kne. It is true that the quality won't be as high as on the Pleasureway. Winnebago does this in order to keep the costs down. Remember the episode I did on determining what type of buyer you are? If you're a cost focused buyer then the Travato is for you. It has a lot of value for your buck and amongst all the class B vans (Carado excluded because their quality just isn't up to par) the Travato is amongst the lowest price points. If quality is paramount to you then you have to go with Pleasureway. They have the highest quality in my book (outside of custom builds). But you're going to pay for that quality. Pleasureway is also among the highest priced. You can go for something like the Lexor which is similar to the Travato as its built on the Promaster platform. It will cost you $10k plus more than the Travato but you'll get a much higher quality van. It's good that you're noticing and looking for the telltale signs of quality : underneath cabinets; behind doors; poking and looking inside things. This is how you determine the true quality of a van, not what you see on the surface. It sounds like you're motivated by quality in which case I'd recommend looking at PleasureWay.

[@reginacarmel]

Ultramobility Also a possible consideration, depending on how long one wishes to keep the RV: how the Pleasure Ways hold their value. With all the good fine tuning now occurring in Class Bs, one might begin rv-ing in one type/brand/year to learn and decide if one is enjoying the lifestyle and then use that experience to upgrade/fine tune to a subsequent, more appropriate RV. What costs more may just be the most economical in the long run.

[@Ultramobility]

It's true. One may only keep the RV for a couple of years (hey not sure why no one is leasing them like cars!) Maybe I should start that business! In any case if you only keep it a couple years then maybe quality matters less and you can live with things like stapled cabinetry. On the other hand all motorhomes get hammered in value as soon as you drive them off the lot. The Pleasureways tend to hold their value better because of their quality and their rarity but not by much.

[@reginacarmel]

Ultramobility Since everything is driven by supply and demand - and it is now High Demand Season - hard to find the best RVs at truly attractive prices. So much also depends on from whom one purchases. Would love to see more from consumers about their good - and bad - experiences. Trolling the message boards for that. Re: leasing.....the field is wide open, Neil!

[@Ultramobility]

Yep best time to buy is December or at least during winter. Those dealerships are graveyards and they sit on inventory they want to move!

[@benjaminlovelace8141]

What is laying on the left side bench seat? looks like white rectangle with 2 metal cones? What is it used for? Whatever it is there has got to be some other place, other than taking up those seats, that it is supposed to be stored, correct? I watched the video several times and saw you look at it at least half a dozen times but never a word of explanation? Watched this with my wife and have shown it to several friends. Everybody asks the same thing!

[@Ultramobility]

did you ever watch that old program in the 70's called "The Liar's Club"? Check it out on KZbin. Basically they have some weird something or other and the guest stars make up outlandish stories about what the object is and a contestant has to figure out who is telling the truth. The truth here is that what you see is the table top and those two cones are for the legs of the table. Truth or Lie?

[@benjaminlovelace8141]

And it has no storage place? it has to take up the seats when not in use?

[@mkmm7282]

That table has a nice storage spot under the passengers side bed. It does not stay out like shown in the video.

[@thomasfranta7028]

Seriously looking at this model due to its larger size bunks The other model we’re considering is the Coachman 22D Which would you consider is of better quality? Thank You

[@Ultramobility]

both have an inadequate 1 year warranty which tells me a lot. I can't really recommend either but I guess if pressed I would say the coachmen.

[@thomasfranta7028]

Ultramobility I am a bit limited due to the constraints of my HOA relative to size and parking I really like Mercedes but I believe PW is the only one available less then 24 ft The new 59 K with the upgrades including lithium leather seats better positive latches compressor fridge and additional storage does make it appealing Thank You

[@thomasfranta7028]

Thank you for your prompt response Going to the Hershey Show to take a closer look

[@karendunbar4459]

Tom Franta Have you made a choice?

[@thomasfranta7028]

Karen Maine Not yet Looked at the Pleasureway Lexor at the Hershey Show Liked the size especially the wet bath. Also liked the IROK and Midwest version of the ProMaster

[@melisherwood9734]

Other than this one, would you recommend any other economical Class B for a newbie?

[@Ultramobility]

yes: the Axion and Banff by Carado; the Simplicity SRT and Zion SRT by Roadtrek. They can all be found for less than the Travato. The Roadtreks have 6 year warranties vs. the 1 year warranty on the Travato. the Zion and Carado RVs can also be upgraded to 400ah of lithium.

[@intuitiveinspiredart4366]

I'm waiting to see a review of the Travato 59KL. I hear it's coming out very soon now. I'm with you about loving the 59K.

[@Ultramobility]

You got it. as soon as i find one locally!

[@LadyTSurvival]

as badly as i want a new one of these i think i will have to find a used one i wont have enough money to even buy half of one. i have filed for disability and by the time i get it i probably wont have but about 20k to spend on something. so i guess used is the way i will have to go. :( but i love your tours and reviews

[@Ultramobility]

never give up taraz!

[@keithevans7027]

I thought if I built or had some professional partial build I would prime the parts not seen too often.

[@Ultramobility]

sorry keith, not following?...

[@kathytripp8617]

I like it!! 😊🌹

[@Ultramobility]

nice@! me too!

[@g.c.1709]

I don’t know what kind of lens you use but it makes everything look strange

[@robertjcruise]

Winnabago is a lot bigger (market share) and it looks like their 2018 Travato KL models coming, Era, Paseo, and Travato with induction cooktop, no propane and 48 amps

[@Ultramobility]

Love the 48volt lithium battery system!

[@apollion888]

A lithium question from a total newbie. I appreciate the simplicity of the "one button one dial" approach but I would love to see the rate at which the batteries are charging as well as being drained. Is that possible and would that be a suggestion for the 2020 model? Thanks

[@Ultramobility]

hi there. i'm not sure about Winnebago's plan for the Travato but that feature is currently available across all Pleasureway lines. The new multiplex color touch screens let you see not only how much energy is coming in and going out but where exactly that energy is being consumed. pretty nifty.

[@FayeCalder]

Travado is very nice. Looking for a Class B or B+. Shopping around now. Although I want a dry bath. Is that possible ? Thank you so much for sharing! Faye aka: MommaFaye

[@Ultramobility]

Hey MommaFaye. If you don't mind the extra length (23 foot versus 20 ft) take a look at the CoachHouse Arriva. They make a floor plan with a rear dry bath.

[@jaykaydee5772]

Winnebago needs to offer the same “K” floor plan in the Transit to boost its sales. Quality of the chassis is lacking in Promaster. Front wheel drive has its limitations in hauling a constant heavy load. Powertrain options are non-existent with the Promaster.

[@kjlcycler]

Travato 59k just seats 2 in the back

[@Ultramobility]

Yep, you're right. Two seat belt along the driver's side in the back. Good catch. As you can see in the video I was unsure of myself ;-)

[@mikesmith5375]

I own a new travato and must agree with another viewer that there will be IMMEDIATE problems, LOTS :( things will come loose like the black tank control pull arm OMG within the first two weeks.......IMPORTANT it was installed wrong at the factory- covered but takes months to be seen! leaks everywhere you are not expecting, look for them, cabinets latches and draws failed completely and i was dainty with using them at all- screws were too small and the draws are actually placed in wrong on the giders causing failures.ALL......... ROAD TREK for quality is DEFINITELY the way to go or Pleasure way-thats why winnebago only gives a 12 month warranty because they are hoping you will not use it for 12 months than you OWN the cost to repair and rest assure they will glady say its out of warranty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The good thing is its cheaper than most and if you are VERY handy your will fair well with this coach. atleast the gas engine is dependable:)

[@Ultramobility]

wow, Mike thanks for sharing your experiences. I hope I am not misdirecting people when I endorse the Travato as the best lowcost campervan! I say that because while its quality may be poor it is better than say the Carado which is visibly much worse. As you say the good thing is that you pay tens of thousands of dollars less than a comparative van from Roadtrek or Pleasureway. If you could have picked up a Pleasureway Lexor for say $100k would you have done that?

[@cathietonkin5577]

How disappointing! We were so looking seriously into the Travato.... 59K or the 59KL. The reason I came to watched this is video is because of past videos by Neil. We’re not spending our hard earned money for junk... looks to me, that Winnebago still hasn’t upped its quality!!!!

[@joeblow502]

should i buy the travato or the zion??? also whats with the small refrigerators? not convenient for people who want to boondocks for longer periods... which class b has the largest fridge? thanks for the vids been very useful as i search for my class b

[@Ultramobility]

i like the travato a lot but as i mentioned in today's live video stream i'm not endorsing any manufacturers or their vans if they offer only a one year warranty. i just think that is absurd. because of that i have to recommend the zion which comes with a 6 year warranty. having said that you need to really look at the quality however. ensure that you know what you're buying. the size of refrigerators is often times dictated by how much room the coach builder has left in the van. i had a massive 7 cf refrigerator in my cs adventurous and ended up hating it because i never used all that space and it would have been better used for something else. i have a 3.7cf refrigerator in my ascent and like it a lot. i don't generally stock my refrigerator because i'm not boondocking for long periods of time. if you are then you should definitely look for a rig with a larger refrigerator or think about getting a secondary plug in cooler.

[@teck13]

The K's fridge is deep so bigger than it appears. 4.3 cubic feet.

[@mkmm7282]

The fridge is plenty large enough for a couple to boondock for a week.

[@honeybadgerstudios21]

Why are class b rvs so expensive? They’re just long vans with beds and bathrooms

[@TheZenguitarguy]

What is the van you are driving at the beginning? Thank you for this video!

[@Ultramobility]

Hi, TheZenguitarguy. My van is a 2017 PleasureWay Ascent. You can see my full review here: kzbin.info/aero/PLLa6GUUz-_eAUXYkeyE5Bsg9Kx08bWPzJ

[@73473473]

What class B are you in on this video?

[@Ultramobility]

mine is a pleasure way ascent.

[@dynabanjo]

Has anyone ever prepared a meal in a K style layout kitchen? The kitchen looks extremely miserable to work in. It not just the stooping with pot in hand but the fact that while standing there is no line of sight to confirm anything.

[@Ultramobility]

it's an excellent point you make M Edwards. Both the refrigerator and the microwave are down pretty low. it's the reason why I prefer layouts where both are higher at eye level.

[@dynabanjo]

I generally love the K. But I can't shake the feeling the kitchen is a deal breaker!

[@mkmm7282]

The kitchen works great. I own a 2019 K.

[@Thomas-wp3ik]

Could you buy some lights , cant see much of what your showin

[@Ultramobility]

yeah yeah yeah. that video was horrible quality. take a look at some of my later ones and see if they are any better.

[@mikecoates6439]

Please try to get more lighting in videos, please.

[@Ultramobility]

thank you for the suggestion.

[@dlg5485]

I just don't have faith in the Promaster chassis. I don't think it'll have the longevity and reliability that I need from a class B, as FCA has some of the worst initial quality ratings in the auto industry. I also prefer diesel for better fuel economy and durability, as well as towing capacity, if you need it.

[@Ultramobility]

No doubt that diesel will give you more power and will have a longer life. However, the Promaster in Europe is called the Ducato and has been around for years and years to the delight of many. In fact I believe something like 90% of the vans in Europe are built on the Ducato/Promaster platform. Just and fyi.

[@dlg5485]

That Fiat version isn't exactly the same product that we have here in the US. Our Promaster uses a US only V6 engine, which may not matter to some, but I admit that I'm biased because I've had terrible experience with poor reliability of 2 FCA engines.

[@reginacarmel]

Ultramobility It’s nice to have the choice.

[@reginacarmel]

Al Yaz Thanks for the input. Isn’t it a pity that one may have to make a choice between either a flawed chassis or flawed RV (cab). At these price levels, pity one cannot get the best of both worlds. Confidently.

[@dlg5485]

I worry about the longevity of a petrol V6 hauling around 10,000 or 11,000 pounds day in and day out. They're just not designed for that. I agree that modern diesel engines can be more problematic, due to the required emissions equipment they have. Particulate filters, sensors everywhere, urea injection systems... it all adds up to more things that can go wrong, but the benefits of diesel (durability, efficiency, torque, easy handling of heavy loads) are all still there. I own a late model diesel car and all I'd say regarding reliability is that it's all about doing proper scheduled maintenance and using a quality fuel additive (I use OptiLube XPD) because diesel fuel in the US is much lower quality than in Europe and other parts of the world. My car has gone 85,000 miles without a single reliability issue.

[@pamw8102]

There are only two seat belts in the past years models of the Travato 59K (driver and passenger) and zero seat belts in the back; they called it a "Couples Coach". The newer model 59K does have two seat belts on one of the benches now, bringing the total number of seat belts to four. winnebagoind.com/products/class-b/2016/travato/specifications

[@Ultramobility]

Hi, Pam. Thanks for the clarification. Yep, I saw on their floorplans for the 59G and 59K that there are two seat belts along the bench on the driver's side. A nice addition. Thanks for subscribing!

[@wincrasher2007]

Not true - only 2 belted position in the back. The layout get's tiresome after a while - you either suffer with narrow beds, or fiddle with making up the big bed. Refrigerator is on the floor, so bending over to get stuff out. Showering is bothersome as you have to fiddle with a convoluted shower curtain.

[@katerinadicamella]

I really can't agreed on the low-cost part...

[@Ultramobility]

Hey Luna. Why not? The Travato is amongst the lowest cost vans in North America. The only vans less expensive are built by Carado and their quality is so poor as to not merit mention.

[@LilyGazou]

Katerina Luna diCamella low cost for me is 5000... perhaps you have also a different budget. 30k will buy me 30 acres. And 30k would only be a down payment on this nice camper. I’m happy for the businesses that have a good market, happy for the jobs it means, happy for the buyers who are able to travel in safety and comfort.

[@katerinadicamella]

Lily Rainier I guess all depends... if I decided living in a van full-time ultimately that will be my home, to purchase a home that price would definitely consider cheap~ 😊

[@KlaxontheImpailr]

Relatively speaking it's on the low cost side, I'm sure there are much more expensive ones.

[@TheCamper83]

renge99O9 Some like seeing different scenery every time they wake up and just being free. Homes and Property ties you down.

[@277kne]

I do like the Ford Transit gas or diesel.

[@Ultramobility]

Ford transit is a great platform. We have so much more choice compared to just a few years ago (2014) when we just had basically the sprinter and the chevy.

[@isabellerodriguez4749]

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